Doesn't local streaming from your gaming PC to a smartphone more or less make dedicated handhelds completely...

Doesn't local streaming from your gaming PC to a smartphone more or less make dedicated handhelds completely redundant, at least when you're playing at home? You get all the power of a desktop PC to go with the best panels in the world, 1440p/144Hz on a 7 inch OLED.

The network lag is so low with modern routers it's actually more responsive than the lag from having to use framegen and upscaling solutions to get modern games running on underpowered APUs like the Steam Deck and the Ally, and it kind of looks like the Switch 2 is going down the same path with DLSS built in.

When I'm laying in bed and I want a quick vidya session, I don't want to boot up my PC, wait for it to come up, take up my phone and equip a controller into it. I want to take up a handheld and fucking play video games.

Yeah, and after buying a legion go I've come to realize this and its since been collecting dust. Here comes the problem for me though, I need symmetrical sticks and the only controller for phones on the entire gay planet this isn't some 20 dollar chinkshit that will break in a week is the mcon which isn't even out yet. Everything else has wrong dpad placement.

Don't care, still playing Deck

The network lag is so low with modern routers it's actually more responsive than the lag from having to use framegen and upscaling solutions

I mean, if that's your standard...

It's a shame the deck is just too weak for wilds. If you call that framerate playable then you're so brown not even the devil would call you his own, and God doesn't even know of you.

If you're not gonna use upscaling/framegen or realistically a combination of both, you're gonna be dealing with atrocious sub 30 framerates which also have more lag than streaming via Wi-Fi 6. The only way to avoid both is to play games over 5 years old, although some will still give you some problems.

Streaming is an aberration and a complete perversion of God's creation
Pure fucking slop

Okay poorfag.

But I stream to my deck perfectly fine from both PC and PS5. I if do travel long distance then there are plenty of games that run on the deck without having to lug around a big screen phone everyday.

if i have to keep my pc on to play the game i might as well play it on my pc.

the input lag is insane and its still streaming over hevc or a shitty encoder

If you call that framerate playable then you're so brown not even the devil would call you his own, and God doesn't even know of you.

t. Zoomie who started playing in the 9th gen
Literally every. single. 3D. game. on Anon Babble's all time top 10 ran at sub 30 fps on release, except for maybe RE4 which was kind of stable. Obviously they would be better if they ran at 60, but they were playable enough to be considered all time classics.

But I stream to my deck perfectly fine from both PC and PS5.

But what's the point of using a *dedicated* device that gives you 20% of the resolution and a lower framerate?

having to lug around a big screen phone

Lug around... Something that's a third of the weight, area and volume for the same screen size?

Streaming is so good, was playing demons souls on my rp5 in bed, fucking love being rich and not retarded

The network lag is so low with modern routers it's actually more responsive than the lag from having to use framegen and upscaling solutions

no
but if you are using a controller then you wont notice cuz all consoles have vsync lag and shit anyway but it wont be like gaming on a pc
to be fair i never realized why people were so anal about neeeeeeeding wifi on the RP now i get it

U put them in a bag and if u want to play 10 minutes of steam games u take it out and play. No one should be playing on their phone, no adult should ever be playing on their phone. I will not listen to anyone who tells me to waste my precious battery life on video games.

resolution and lower framerate

Believe or not but 800p is enough for the screen size and it's the OLED so it runs at 120hz

lug around the same screen size

That's a giant phone anon, and if I spend money on a bigger screen i might as well just skip to a dedicated handheld that actually works outside of my house. Good luck streaming in a plane.

but if you are using a controller then you wont notice cuz all consoles have vsync lag and shit anyway but it wont be like gaming on a pc

Well a controller is good enough to do frame perfect(16ms) precision inputs. The only scenario where you'd need more precision than that is with actual competitive play, but I don't think anyone is advocating for playing Counter Strike or Street Fighter on anything but totally native wired hardware

he games at 60 fps

warp 2 has pretty good frame latency on artemis, stutters a lot but if you have really good internet it makes up for it

For all intengs and purposes your phone is just playing a video, modern ones can tank like 7 hours of screen on time(plus they charge from 0 to full in like 20 minutes anyway)

You can wake your pc on with wake on lan and even then why would you ever turn off your pc when you’re not sleeping? you can turn it off when you’re streaming in bed

Holy fuck lol

Steam Deck owners are among the most retarded people on earth lmao.

let me guess this is 20 fps WITH framegen

But if you’re away then actually playing low-level games does tank your battery. and even then you’re gonna be carrying some type of attach-controller so you might as well be bringing a dedicated handheld with you if the conveince is already fucked or if you dont mind one of these

The network lag is so low

kek
cope and seethe faggot

He can't afford quality internet

Keep being poor.

I invented the Wii U (and streaming latency is totally not shit and variable you guys)

Ay yo this dude brought his switch

thats true but they are just soooo much bigger and heavier than the android handhelds like the ones from retroid and the odin 2’s and they can play roughly the same amount of games (even windows games with winlator and switch games too) but unlike the steam deck and rog allys they are WAYYYY more pocketable

Happy for you zoomie, I grew up tolerating that crap but the moment my eyes adapted to a high refresh monitor I could not go back to 30fps games without some kind of 60fps mod to make it playable for me. 60fps is my new 30 and 30 looks like 20 to my eyeballs. I find it incredibly infuriating because I've also become incredibly sensitive to microstutter as well.

My first console was an nes btw and I'm in my 30's.

Precious battery life

I never understood this argument at all. I'm sorry but if you consider your phone as anything but a pocketable computer you are effectively retarded. The only two people on this earth you should be concerned about calling you is your mom or your dad, your wife should already be in your physical presence at nearly all times and if you're having to take calls for business reasons then you failed the game of life, not my problem.

Incredibly based and correct.
Retarded faglords will disagree though.

Drive arround a lot, outside a lot, phone drains to 70% imagine me playing my phone with a external grip instead of charging it when i could just play a dedicated handheld

20FPS monster hunter (PSP)

:O SOUL!

20FPS monster hunter ('ick on 'eck)

I suddenly have standards

Anon my 30 dollar phone can run GTA 5. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Hell I just decided to finally play fear and hunger and it worked out of the box no problems on winlator. Phones really been closing the performance gaps over the last 10 years. There are phone soc's slightly more powerful than a GTX 1660 now. Spooky, but true.

You're playing souls you are retarded

What game is that

Correct, it's really just an issue of the steam deck not having enough CPU threads to handle it. Legion go has a pretty similar Apu but double the core count and it seems to be able to achieve 50-70 with framegen. Definitely was able to achieve a locked 30 without framegen too without any additional drops.

Fear and hunger.

for local streaming

anon, I know it's not something you do often, but we're still talking about if you LEAVE THE HOUSE

who the fuck uses a handheld while their at home? stop being a fat piece of shit and just move to the room with your gaming setup in, portable devices are for when you aren't at home

Anon my 30 dollar phone can run GTA 5

oh, so you have no problem showing us this then?

Please, show us the $30 phone playing GTA5 natively from the device without using the internet to stream it, otherwise we might end up saying things like "that's a completely fucking retarded statement" and "why did you think you could like about something so obviously untrue?" and other things that indicate how much of a piece of shit you would be if you were lying?

Anon this isn't remotely impressive or hard, I don't care about you enough to go reinstall a game I have no interest in just because you're too lazy to use Google. This isn't even fresh news, android users have had access to modern PC titles for a while now. My 30 dollar phone can also run PS2 and switch games, though I don't think there is any phone SOC yet that can fullspeed the more demanding switch games yet, I only get about 14 fps in tears of the kingdom.

An hour of animal crossing takes around 12%.

My 30 dollar phone can also run PS2 and switch games

No 30 dollar phone will run NetherSX2 properly same with Switch emu. Why lie like that lmao. You need upper mid range Snapdragon at minimum and those chips start from 450+$ a phone. I wish some ass Mali gpu in phone for 100$ could emulate even PS2 titles well.

same retard vibe as being unable to hook a PC up to a TV. you are the target demographic.

You do realize almost every service provider offers upgrades and extremely discounted devices right? Why is it so unreasonable to believe that I got a high end phone for cheap when even niggers make sure they somehow have the newest iPhone? Get real anon.

You do you op. I do me.

sub faggot

Yeah so youre lying. Long term youre paying 1k for that phone. As I said no 30$ phone will emulate PS2 and Switch. Cheapest device that can emulate most but not even all of PS2 library is Retroid RP5 for 220$ and forget emulating even simple 2D titles from Switch on that thing. I agree that phones closed performance gap massively in last couple of years and I cant wait to see how RPCS3 android fork and Winlator will evolve and progress but lets be real.

50€ for that

lmao, lol

I love my Steam Deck

I'm sure my phone can run this game better than this trash device.

Doesn't local streaming from your gaming PC to a smartphone more or less make dedicated handhelds completely redundant, at least when you're playing at home?

No, not exactly. Streaming from the PC is a bit of a pain and sometimes just randomly goes wrong. Windows will throw up an error message which sits behind the game screen or something, and you'll need to alt-tab to fix it which isn't always possible using the handheld.
On my Steam Deck, I generally run anything which takes 10W or lower on the deck, and anything above that I stream from the PC. It's not worth the fuss otherwise.

pro tip: it cant.

playing games on a physical screen

Third world behavior

I recently learned there's a specialized Docker container that spins up Steam with Proton on demand so I'm considering beefing up my NAS which is on 24/7 anyway. All the benefits of streaming without the downsides of Windows.

I'm not lying about anything and even told you what my performance in the most demanding switch title was, if I'm paying for the phone plan regardless of what company I choose, why not just go along with the several year contract and get something really nice for nearly free? Or are you going to also tell me I'm being scammed at a rate 50 a month for unlimited 5g without any hotspot caps? I already agreed with you that switch games aren't there yet for any device on this tdp scale, that doesn't disprove the fact that you can get a solid 30-40fps 720p on GTA 5 lowest settings with a modern smartphone.

I don't play woke garbage tho??????

HOLY FUCK its so bad

Where's the 'ick?

lmao i think you have it backwards my friend

Its not that bad

Dude you might as well be streaming it to your deck, how badly do you need to play AAA slop outside?

How many levels of irony are you on right now? Locked 30 without additional drops is the lowest I'm willing to go without framegen. You can't possibly be white, no white person would have standards that low. Has to be brown or bait, just has to be.

Quit being an insufferable whiny faggot.
The Steam Deck is far from perfect, but up until recently it was able to fit your criteria pretty well.
These days we have the Rog Ally X as an upgrade option if you want to play the latest AAA slop with decent performance.
Valve is pushed the industry towards the right direction, which certainly isn't streaming shit. Even snoy is developing their own handheld.

Do you really not understand how stupid it is to turn on your PC just to stream games?
It's less stupid to play in the cloud, it's just god... I think you even have an idea of how stupid you sounded just by saying "at least when you're playing at home?"There are even cell phones powerful enough to emulate a switch and your best fucking idea is to stream games from your fucking PC? I'm getting out of this shithole, I just can't.

The Steam Deck is far from perfect, but up until recently it was able to fit your criteria pretty well.

Yeah, about that

Lmao why are you seething nigger? My pc is on 60% of the day, i usually play on my handhelds when im lying in bed, why not get the pc experience on my handhelds rather than spending my time trying to save a sub-optimal experience that runs local on my handheld. 70% of the time i play on my handhelds im
in my house, and if im not in my house i got hundreds of roms to keep me company from ps2/gc/wii and below

That's true to some degree, but as somebody who actually used remote streaming fairly extensively in the past (from PC to PC), it's not exactly trouble-free. The most common problem I remember having is that not every game was super friendly to image capture, which is obviously required to actually make the stream. I remember some outright crashing or failing to capture in the worst cases, but also others which did work yet suffered performance issues (especially if the resolution on your PC was high). Sometimes the frame time wasn't smooth despite everything running at 60FPS, due to the game doing whatever VSync fuckery it wouldn't let you configure or fuck knows what.

Also if you're going to be streaming to a phone like that, or any device with an aspect ratio different than your PC monitor, the game may not offer a resolution in the aspect ratio of your client. This means you may get black bars on your client and a resolution in the right AR may not be immediately available in the game options. You can often fix this with a custom res and shit on your PC, but it's kind of a pain because some games may just not support it even if you make a custom res. With a small screen like a phone, you can also run into readability issues with text, like the phone screen may not be big enough for text which is intended to show up on a large monitor. There are a lot of different little issues like that which can crop up.

Controls are also another issue. Small phone clamp-on controllers like that are total shit if you're an adult. They're too small for adult hands and you're going to get cramps in like 30 minutes of any seriously engaging game, the bigger handhelds have an advantage simply due to being big enough to have more ergonomic controls (Steam Deck is especially good at this despite it being kinda outdated in terms of performance).

What I'm seeing from this thread is 99% of streaming problems are Windows problems.

apollo and artemis solves a lot of those issues youtu.be/H0jmqVIhwIA

Also if you're going to be streaming to a phone like that, or any device with an aspect ratio different than your PC monitor

Yeah phones are actually closer to Ultrawide (21:9) than the usual 16:9

Yeah I do local streaming on my steam deck when I'm home. I know people say to just put your PC next to your tv but I live in a multi story home, my tv is on different floor. I'm not going to move my pc out of my office you tards.

powerline ethernet

just drill a hole in your wall and run a cable 30 feet through it

I actually use MoCas instead, much better speeds and far more reliable. I used to just directly stream from my pc to my tv but I bought the deck because work has me travelling quite a bit, so I figured I would use it more when I was home. Justify the purchase.

reading comprehension

MoCA would have been my backup rec, but everybody has electrical runs worth considering.

I think he's talking about powerline adapters, you just plug it into a wall socket and put the ethernet in and it sends internet signals throughout your home's powerlines. You then you use another adapter and ethernet cable to get that signal in another room.

dont do this, Horriffic speeds, just get a reallly realllly good usb wifi adapter for like 30 dollars

for streaming latency trumps speed. you're asking for trouble in either case, but wifi will be wifi.