So why exactly didn't Nintendo save this game for the Switch 2 altogether...

any possible hype the game could've had was completely killed by the $80 price tag, sorry

poorfag

Super Mario Wonder where your life went wrong

wait 2 years to sell game because ...???

Companies sit on games all the time. Besides, Wonder could’ve used that extra time to make it good

Normies don't care. My brother rarely plays video games. He owns a Switch just for Mario Kart, because it's the one game he'll play if he's playing a game. I saw him over the weekend and asked him what he thought about World and he was confused as he hadn't even heard about the Switch 2 or World yet. The second he heard there was going to be a new Mario Kart, he was sold on it. Over the course of the Switch 2's life this game will sell 50M units.

Same but half normie brother. He barely plays Nintendo but my niece fucking loves Mario Kart so he's buying one for the house to play together.

Because it was more funny for them to embarrass Sonic Superstars

Pretty sure Nintendo knows more about marketing and sales than you.

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I would have never marketed Wii 2 as Wii U, so no, you are wrong.

the game was profoundly mediocre. holding it as a near launch title for the next console would raise expectations and result in even greater backlash. better to send it out to perform modestly well in the later years of the console.

Because they're working on a new Super Mario Land.

You lost and got raped

you're aware that it comes with the console for $50, right?

you don't sell an expensive new system with 2D platformers, this is one of the many reasons why the wii u failed so hard: no big games at launch, only party games and 2D platformers

switch 2 has open world mario kart and a big dk collectathon as its major launch titles

They tried something similar before, and it was a dud.

i thought this game was extremely mediocre. is newsoup U better or should i just not bother?

why would this sell the console more than mario kart? isn't mario Kart 8 like the best selling nintendo game of all time

I'm buying the switch 2 so it'll be ok little buddy. Everything's going to work out in the end. You'll see.

We're getting Mariomaker 3 for Switch2. Surely.
Then another 3D Mario in the latter half of the gen.
Then a non-Mariomaker 2D game.
And we'll get some weird as fuck spinoff in-between.
And the Mario Movie sequel is probably going to be cool too.

A pretty good time to be a Mario fan.

My nephew has like 9 copies of mk8 because my retarded family kept buying them for him for events and shit. This isn't the argument you think it is.

it's unironically the fifth best selling game of all time

SeeYawn*

The game has a bundle with the Switch that effectively makes it even cheaper than if it cost the normal non-jewish pricing ($50).
The price of the console itself is also FAR less contentious than the price of the games, with most people wishing it was only $400 but accepting $450 due to the substantial upgrades it has over the original Switch (aka tablet hardware that was almost a decade outdated even when it came out).
If you think the game isn't going to be a major system mover via the bundle you're a retard.

i-it doesn't le count!!

it does

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*sticks my cock down your throat*

Miss me with that gay shit

it's not gay if you're the one doing the raping bitchboy

It's incredibly gay and you need just faggot. You're doing to burn in hell if you don't repent.

It's incredibly gay and you need just faggot. You're doing to burn in hell if you don't repent.

holy shit learn english

No, why would I learn the language black people speak?

I thought it was just meant to be a nice placeholder for a true Odyssey followup on the Switch 2.

Boy howdy was I wrong. Been nearly 8 years BTW since mainline 3D Mario. What the fuck are they thinking?! If DK is meant to take the place of that they're in for a surprise.

We want Mario you cunts. My 8 year old doesn't give 2 shits about DK.

mk world is too expensive at 80 dollar

60 dollar is so cheap nobody bothers checking if the kid already owns this thing before gifting

ah i see, you're indian/chinese. that explains everything

shut up bitch

it's good that they don't spam mayrio for a change, a new 3D dk is preferable to yet another bing bing

I would have been too much of a gap plus if you release a bunch of games at once people won't buy them all because of the gaming backlog + the price of buying it all at once is too much

Japanese. Eat my shit gaijin and pay $100 more for my technology.

Mario Kart has traditionally been a system seller

What do you mean "another"? Its been 8 god damn years. That's actually pretty insane.

Face it. The S2 has no killer titles to justify an upgrade for most. Mario Kart is just the same ol shit.

The cope is real

Because then 2023 would have only had a shitty Zelda sequel

hype lost

sold out everywhere that takes preorders

reality disagrees

american website, mr. toyota. now get back to your shitty 1k and draw my moe. also, i didn't know there were christian japs

dud

It was the 3rd best selling game on the system

"we proudly announce that our new system can run 2D mario"

It didn't work for the Wii u either. Most money is made on software sales anyway.

your shitty anecdote only supports his argument

Wii U was sold out at the beginning too. What a stupid tendie argument.

Money

bowser's fury

nooooo it doesn't count!!!

yes it does

of a system that had like 10 games before it got donked by the switch lol

so you have no evidence of switch 2 hype lost or sales effected. You seem to be the stupid one here

I like money. Imma buy a switch 2. It's cheap.

We'll talk again in three months, retard.

Where? In America or globally? How many consoles were produced? I got a Wii U easily at launch without pre-ordering

Super Mario World was bundled with the system

It sold out everywhere within the first few months then dropped off. I had to drive over an hour to get one.

2D Mario isn't a system seller. Look at the Wii U. A 3D Donkey Kong and new Mario Kart after 11 years of 8 is more than enough

Super Mario 64

Super Mario Sunshine

6 years

Super Mario Sunshine

Super Mario Galaxy

5 years

Super Mario Galaxy

Super Mario Galaxy 2

3 years (really 2.5 but I'm a generous guy)

Super Mario Galaxy 2

Super Mario 3D World

4 years (3.5 actually)

Super Mario 3D World

Super Mario Odyssey

4 years

Super Mario Odyssey

Super Mario ????????????

7.5 years (and counting)

It's Mariover....
Super Mario 3D Land is also basically a 3D Mario, 1.5 years after Super Mario Galaxy 2.

where it continued to sell on a much wider platform and is the 10th top selling switch game. Great argument

this add on mini game to an 8 year old game at the time totally counts!

Pathetic. Its this level of cope that knows I'm right.

NSMU outsold Metroid Dread and Fire Emblem while being on a failed system. What is this cope

spam

Read the OP. We're talking about system sales. Making 2D Mario exclusive to an expensive new system has no point either way.

The entire convo chain and the OP is about software. Stop coping by moving goalposts

Okay so how exactly would it help software sales to not put it on a platform with 150 million owners?

NSMBU was, and did, as mentioned

At this rate it'll be 10 years. Somebody somewhere made the decision to push an open world DK instead of an Odyssey sequel, despite Mario being hot right now w the movie & upcoming one. Remember when Odyssey 2 was supposed to happen on the Switch 1? Oh boy, we've fallen a long ways now.

Bonanza is gonna be one of those things they look back on on what not to do. Letting your main IP languish for all this time was dumb AF.

Remember when Odyssey 2 was supposed to happen on the Switch 1

No? When was there ever an Odyssey 2. Bowsers fury was 3 years ago

My kid 100% BF in like 3 hours. Stfu.

And?

Why do you guys think only 3d mario matters? A mainline mario released less than two years ago. Btw Mariokart is more popular than the mainline games, and its new release will tower over the platformers, both 2d and 3d.

your main IP

that's mario kart

More people are going to buy Mario Kart to play with their friends than a singleplayer Mario game. That's traditionally why Mario Kart bundles have sold the best

Because you're the one fag in here harping that BF is somehow an Odyssey, Galaxy, etc equivalent. Its sad.

Never said it was an equivalent, just that was a product made by the Odyssey team and sold so it's unfair to pretend they weren't working on anything between Odyssey and Bananza. What's sad is you imagining positions that weren't made.

I wasn't gonna bother asking, but since you mention it... when I looked up the beat for Super Mario 3D World, and the switch version, there was a big difference. With Bowsers fury version being shorter? What's this all about?

Then why mention it if you know it wasn't a real followup? Do you think its fair Nintendo is making players wait for a new mainline 3D Mario game the longest in their history by far??

Resources were obviously put into Bonanza instead, which is a huge gamble & an experiment however you slice it. They're betting people will have enough DK nostalgia to look over the glaring fact of Odyssey being 8 years old w no successor.

don't know, it might have something to do with the fact the switch version has much faster movement

They prob made it more forgiving for younger players, idk. But BF is literally a tacked on side quest no matter what the apologist tendies here say. That's why they didn't even attempt to sell it standalone.

Faster platforming speed and faster load times on switch

not to mention it's getting a performance patch for Switch 2 still, so it'll likely become the go-to version for speedruns from now on

They knew the Switch 2 was going to be too expensive so they wanted to keep supporting the Switch 1 as a second pillar.

Then why mention it if you know it wasn't a real followup?

See >Do you think its fair Nintendo is making players wait for a new mainline 3D Mario game the longest in their history by far??
Yes, fans waiting for next game in x franchise to be made is the norm. Nintendo have also made no announcements of a new 3D Mario so fans shouldn't have any expectations of a release for a game that doesn't exist. This it's a square enix situation where they announce a game and create the expectation amongst fans, then release the game 10 years later.