What went wrong?
PSO2
the game
i like it but it runs like shit
Gutted most classes to function like scions
No FUN
Story feels non-existent, especially with no mystery hooks like Matoi, Persona and Xion
Barely any reason to make it open world besides padding gameplay
Built on top of PSO2 with jank included because Sega didn't want to renegotiate
Schizo community manager on top of a massive ban wave in global
Expanded MyRoom and character customization enabled degeneracy beyond 140cm cunnymancers and boob pad users
you have to use DXVK. its something nobody tells you but running the game through a vulkan layer ends up boosting performance by 30% and fixing stutters.
Schizo community manager on top of a massive ban wave in global
tldr?
Microsoft wanted a shitty anime open-world gachapon simulator on Xbox and Sega gave them a shitty anime open-world gachapon simulator.
Microsoft is happy, Sega is happy, and I'm happy that I was able to beat EP6 and have some fun with Phantom before everything went to shit.
Also hyped for that upcoming japanese game with a Phantom-looking katana girl
Like the game
Hate the fact that nobody actually plays it
Not even the people logged in
Too much Halpha. Not even new regions to explore in the last 3-4 years of game's release even though they initially advertised it as an exploration style game of sorts.
Tranny community manager that works in Sega hangs out in Anon Babble meetups using lobby action and outfit mods that shows sexual acts and nudity. Pointing that out has people calling you transphobic.
NGS.
I genuinely miss playing the original PSO2 so much.
it's nothing like PSO or even PSU.
this game feels completely abandoned by its developers. sega of america or europe doesnt even acknowledge the game on their customer support. they redirect you to zendesk which is handled by sega of japan.
I want to return at least once before the unavoidably EoS.
But... you know... better games.
No.
ITS SOMETHING ELSE.
SOMETHING MUCH MORE ELSE.
The developers are working on PSO remake.
It's not PSO.
I dont have much faith if this is PSO remakes credits
lol, the only thing they're going to be doing for the rest of their careers is support on the crazy taxi battle royale
The PSO formula is inherently not conducive to the live service format in general and even base PSO2 was enough to prove this point. NGS might as well had been doomed from the start when you combine this with the fact that the PS Crew studio at Sega just simply does not understand how to even make a solid live service title in the modern era on top of needing to make a new game during the COVID era which the JP side of the industry got fucked really hard by.
PSO2 got a free pass from launching in 2012 when the landscape was so ass and infested with dogshit Korean f2p crap that PSO2 being that same f2p crap but with a much better monetization system compared to the competition at the time it was easy for it to make a big splash at the time.
A lack of design talent, vision, and a tormented dev cycle is what poisoned the well. Maybe a new title built from the ground-up rather than a tumor slapped onto an already 10+ year old foundation could have done better, but I firmly believe that this franchise should have never moved into the true live service space and would have been better served with a formula similar to MH with boxed titles with a firm and set shelf-life before moving onto the next big entry was always the way this franchise should have gone.
got bored when i got all the stuff i needed to make a zaku in normal pso2. stopped right when they released the medieval world for story for NA
its so weird how this game dropped off the map completely. it used to draw in crowds of people like ffxiv fanfest now its like huh wha it still going?????
schizo who got banned for yelling NIGGER NIGGER TRANNY NIGGER and spamming cp ingame having another samefag melty
Sad to see.
they collabed with NIJISANJI. that shows they give zero fucks about english players. they are taboo in the west after their drama and the devs clearly suck them off in japan.
It’s a shame hoyo or the like haven’t tried to copy the PSO formula. I’d fucking love a co op dungeon crawler by them.
im waiting for kuro games to make it or a blackrockshooter game
I just realized NGS never had its own Arks Live or even Rare Drop Koi Koi, just generic Direct-like streams with a guy in a business suit. Was there absolutely no community interaction beyond sharing fashion?
tranny CM makes another thread to harass himself and farm ((((((((((((((((evidence))))))))))))))))) of ((((((((((((((((((((harassment))))))))))))))))))))
Sega cant afford to ban players at the rate they're losing them.
there have been a few offline events for the game but they have been japan only and small scale like the silly line strike tournament they did recently. it only fill up like a tcg hall instead of whole stadiums like fanfest did.
When you find legit cool people to play the game with the game is pretty cool to play.
But uhhhh I think it’s a shame that most of the good co op stuff is locked until lvl 60 or whatever.
NTA and I barely remember but basically you had stamps being passed around, literal hentai, and this really pissed off the mods. Eventually they started cracking down on any form of ERP, but this overreached into snooping through whispers+group chat logs (private conversations) and even banning people if they were in the same chat for no fucking reason. Ship 2 Lobby 34 was a graveyard.
I may have a detail or two missing or incorrect but that's what I remember.
same tbdesu
also hate that once you have the gear theres nothing worth doing because the rewards for everything are most of the time lame, also there is fun content but nobody does it anymore because shit is too easy/"outdated", and now that everyone is doing the new leciel other content got even more dead
I wish this game had dungeons like mines/caves/ruins ;_;
dungeons
That’s the biggest pisstake about this game. No fucking dungeons.
why is there more limited time shit than permanent content? I think thats mostly why people clock out and never come back, there's nothing to do because you cant do it.
I miss PSU so much
don't care, the graphics are too high quality nowadays.
I stopped playing because I became too aware that I was only logging in to play the game so I wouldn't miss out on something. Insanely cucked behavior. I'm glad I stopped.
Yeah thats straight up praying on FOMO and is really scummy corporate behavior.
the game loop just doesn't make any sense for new genesis. this probably worked when gachas were still new in 2012 but its 2025 now people have standards.
now people have standards.
people have less standards than they did 10 years ago, and pay for stuff they used to get for free through challenges and unlocks 15 years ago
On the small offchance you dont know, there is a psu private server thats been around for several years now. Unless you want vanilla PSU then youre kinda screwed yea, but vanilla was awful.
back then people expected 2d png gachas and a 3d console gacha like pso2 blew them away.
today we have genshin impact, something this game is trying to copy but fail.
I know, but it lacks a real community which was what I mainly miss about PSU. It's not the same when every single field lobby is a wasteland.
Me too
Half right.
SEGA sponsored streams to promote New Genesis, but the community was upset they were putting money into marketing instead of fixing the game. The troon CM failed to warn the streamers about potential issues—like offensive stickers or direct messages—so viewers flooded the streams with slurs and explicit images.
In response, SEGA's California team banned around 1,600 accounts for "toxicity." When players asked for details, SEGA later clarified off cuff that about half of those bans were actually for real-meseta trading (RMT).
This raised more concerns due to inconsistent messaging from SEGA staff.
Later on, the GMs and CMs falsely claimed they don’t monitor or ban based on whispers (DMs), but SEGA customer support said the opposite—that they do check chat logs and can ban players based on them.
Then the whole ERP debacle happened, with players getting mad you could get banned for ERPing in private chat.
The remaining bans were handed out to players who associated with Anon Babble alliances, regardless of individual behavior or involvement.
Then things escalated. When the CM was pressed for secretly monitoring chats despite him denying it, One player tested the theory: they made a brand new account on a new IP, mocked the CM in an empty area, and later got banned.
they made a brand new account on a new IP, mocked the CM in an empty area, and later got banned.
Is there a record of this? I wanna see it so I can shove it in a friends face who says Sega isn't thought policing its players. Doesn't affect me either way because I refuse to interact with that community much less play NU-(not)PSO. But to have proof is great.
they could've avoided this by giving a slight boost to exp you get from normal quests but instead the best way to level until 150 or so is to do the daily mission that can level you 20 times in 5 minutes and also gives high level gear.
I don't think anything would have significantly increased the population. It's an old niche game that most people only played back in the day because it was one of the few console MMOs, and it wasn't very good either. It was truly a product of its time.
the biggest issue is they dropped it and then took a fuck long ass time to update it
we were stuck with the same content to where most of the player base dissipated and never looked back
the other issue is they were too lazy to update all the assets from old ps02 to just merge with the graphics
EN moderators tried to ban every japanese thing in the game under bigoted moral high ground
One of my favorite parts was when the CM accused the most popular english fan site of datamining and cheating which caused the author of the site to quit even after the CM admitted they were wrong. All the while theuberelite, friend of the CM, posts datamined shit all over twitter every single week without any repercussions.
a formula similar to MH with boxed titles with a firm and set shelf-life before moving onto the next big entry was always the way this franchise should have gone.
Never thought about it much, but you're right, this would have been so much better. PSO1 and PSP2i were perfectly enjoyable played totally offline, and PSU was worth a spin through the story one time at least.
Shotgunning base PSO2 updates on the Western client was a fucking travesty.
I just love PSO so much you guys. And to see it go down like this…it just…breaks my heart :(
the gms are in modcord rn
it released in the west
took 10 years to release in the west
then proceed to take a dump on the west by censoring the game and banning all negative feedback
bro they even hired a fucking pedo as their discord staff
sega is done
What a miserable place that must be.
They also can't even translate the game properly. Thats why we still have a english patch for NGS.
Yeah lemme get a uhhhhhhh
the files to replace are nowhere to be found, how the fuck am i supposed to install it
This is really not a problem, they made affixing retard free in ngs.
unless you have been playing this game for years already, nobody understands what the fuck the gearing is. thats why they keep handing out the welfare gear like candy for free during these "come back new and old players" campaign every 3-6 months.
Drag and drop the d3d11.dll and dxgi.dll inside the x64 folder inside the sub directory where the pso2.exe is at.
discord mod permissions include pedo by default, be specific
it's like the people who made it never played pso
the whole point of the game is to join a party and go maze crawling
dreamweaver is sega staff and he used to be a wow shaman that did pedo erp.
They fucked up the loot so bad in this game. Getting a red box used to be RARE you know, but now its like spammed on your fucking screen like a common item.
yeah I get that, the problem is there's no "x64" folder nor "d3dX.dll" files to replace
you open tar.gz with 7zip or winrar
Mocked thru dms?
Also i dont see how this affects anyone other than the vg general who deserved it or Anon Babble players since saying nigger on a stream is obviously fucking stupid why would anyone complain about getting banned for that unless they are actually retarded?
The director should have been fired after Episode 5 but instead Sega promoted him TWICE.
What's the most tragic about this is that I cannot even place blame directly on Sega for missing the call on which direction to take the franchise. PSO1 was just so fucking groundbreaking for it's time there was no other frame of reference for Sega to follow on what to do with the IP next and thus they chose to follow the more MMO direction of support and service.
Meanwhile the rest of the industry then took the PSO1 formula, worked on their own spins on the formula to fit whatever framework and ate Sega's lunch. Games like MH figured out how to handle the formula better as a full package boxed product and games like Destiny managed to figure out how to better adapt the formula into a live service framework (until even the Destiny formula started to break and it makes you wonder if Destiny also would have been better served as a boxed full package product too.) The biggest problem is that PSO2 in its prime made so much fucking money for Sega that even when we do eventually see a proper new PSO game I still dont think Sega will realize just how much better a pivot to a full-package title would be and just make another game burdened by the live service framework again.
IIRC the Atlus leaker said the game is shutting down and they're making a spinoff or some shit.
Sega killed him before he could elaborate further though.
bland, boring open world full of the same 3 enemies
nothing to fucking DO besides grind levels in combat zones and grind capsules in exploration zones
basically no reason to do UQs
classes completely gutted because ???
subclasses made completely worthless because ???
subclass weapons do 15% less damage than main class weapons because ??????
maybe some of those got better with time but I waited around for the 2nd or 3rd major update and gave up when all they added was the arena to spawn in open world bosses
atlus leaker
he was some retard making shit up and pretending to be japanese
dude i know, what i want to know is where to put those files because there's no "x64" subfolder inside the pso folder
the sunken cost fallacy is insane, they shut down the servers with no way to transfer cosmetics, and the next game is dead in the water. it might be the only reason why folks still "play" it's a dress up social hub at it's core. the "gameplay" comes second
I think its obvious that Sega is working on a new game. PS Crew never got hit with any layoffs (not sure if they are still constantly having job openings up tho.) but its VERY clear from even just a glance at NGS that there has not been a full studio worth of effort behind it for like 2 years now. With them shitting out the "true narrative final boss" its been clear for ages that Sega has been winding down PSO2 so it can be immediately replaced by the next PS game like they did with PSO1, PSU, and base PSO2 before. Only reason NGS is still "supported" right now is just because the game to replace it isn't out yet.
/thread
I will never not be malding about this
Damn SEGA and their nepotism
Tfw Xenoblade Chronicles X is a better PSO game.
you can read? put in the sub folder where pso2.exe is at.
Your audience of gay dorks are playing your game because they dont want to play WoW, so stop trying to make it like WoW
I've read this "leak" since Stia dropped
it's not happening
oh there's a literal "sub" folder what the fuck
How the fuck is Sega still keeping the charade for this game? "Latest popular"? Nigga this game 4 year old now. Theyre still using this shit for headlines and press releases.
im bored enough to give it a whirl again.
which game is it?
Lie to keep m$ form sueing and the investors from selling
If you have amd GPU do max frame latency 1 in DXVK conf or environment variables in Windows
Otherwise build shaders and never stutter again
You are generally not replacing anything
the "x64" folder is the game's root, or executable directory, assuming a 64-bit game.
You simply dump the x64 contents, (not the folder) into the same directory as the game exe.
All community managers for video game companies are total freaks and losers. It's quite amazing.
It's straight up false advertising at this point. There's more people playing Schedule 1 than this "latest popular MMO".
didn't a leak hit sega once, like with capcom?
If there was nothing there i wouldn't expect a new game anytime soon
There were a couple of Sega game leaks but those were the games they already announced at VGAs like Jet Set Radio, Virtua Fighter, Golden Axe, etc.
fuck you retards for making the n-sphere so expensive
die
Literal cone accessory is more expensive than best in slot PvE gear
It's funny how the unofficial PSO2 discord has more people than the official one.
No one wants to deal with the troons that are the oficial comunity managers
Wow this looks like dogshit let me guess at least a third of the playerbase is running around like this?
expand your vocabulary
what went wrong with ngs?
being based on pso2
what went wrong with pso2?
being based on psu, etc
No because the boobs cant get a fourth of that size, that guy spent literal money to have an accesory to shape it like boobs to make it like that
Ngs population consists of deranged gay erpers
But le PSU!!!
PSP2i was better than PSO
What went wrong?
Sony
You log in and theres a good chance you see this idling next to you.
only the srb2 version, if being le honest
pls no
ever since they changed out the games anticheat they lost like half of their legit players because they can no longer log in from errors.
how "playable" is base jp? Can most of the stuff be farmed in a normal timeframe or it's still "Lmao use the player shop" for everything?
Troon activists hijacked Sega of NA, threw all player feedback in the trash.
They are using Types instead of female and male (somebody tip Trump, plz)
And the game is pretty mediocre cashgrab with no substance
what went wrong with ngs?
Nepotism, incompetence and surely corruption
Imagine halting the successful game for 2-3 years to have the man almost killed the game "develop" the sequel
what went wrong with pso2?
Too unstable, the first director was slow and the gameplay easy as mobs weren't ready for players to jump above them, still the story was really cool
Then after before the second big boss fight you can notice sudden changes in the story direction, they don't make much sense but you can ignore them
ep 4-5 were made by THAT idiot HMZK the current director of NGS, he made the story change to some BS and made the gameplay boring (like in NGS!) almost killing the game
ep 6 was the miracle everyone prayed for, it was good, the story was awesome and the gameplay improved a lot, too bad it lasted so little
...I fucking HATE sega
story was only good when matoi was kicked out, desu
get to a certain level cap and the game itself will give you fully upgraded weapons and armor for your current level
Still the story is fucking nothing, at most despite the years it must be like 3 hours of BORING content, what will kill your time is leveling up
Do anything else, really, even complaining about the game is more fun than actually playing it
I had the resources so i actually saw the end... its garbage, like a teaser to we are "returning to form", a half ass tease to return to the story of the base game in some way, i don't believe them or that it can work in their hands, considering they have like 5 interns working on the game
S-word should've made another video tbdesu
just to finish off shitting on the game
No lolis allowed
Player shop inflated to unfixable proportions
What do you mean? It's the same experience as global (minus some NPC shop fuckery). They haven't touched Base game since NGS dropped in 2021 so they left it in the same economy ruined state. You're expected to grind everything solo or pay to skip/win since they stopped giving base handouts.
You know it's dead game when the PvE best in slot cost less than whatever fomo cash shop shit.
Thats modded. Cone and sphere accessories look even worse.
Do you really have to say s-word or get banned here otherwise? Hahahaha grim.
I have a strong urge to reinstall, but not for NGS. Unfortunately, base was way dead last time I checked on Ship 3, and that was almost a year ago now. And I don't feel like financially supporting s*ga.
your birth
HE is probably lurking the thread
i'd rather not send HIM into a shitpost craze
rangers snipe things from range, focus on standing still and repositioning, have weak bullet be as strong as it was as the trade off of being unable to put more than one on the enemy. Outside of all that they have debuff and crowd control
gunner os the actual range dd with a focus on mid-range to close range as well as actually dodging and comboing things
I am not sure why sega turned ranger into phantom in ngs.
Ranger was my main so it was the one I had biggest gripes with, I didn’t understand why sega thought standing snipe and og weak bullet were bad. OG weak bullet was strong in an organized mpa? Sure. But the average gameplay loop wasn’t using organized MPAs anyway, listening to a small group of people screaming about balance is always a surefire way to ruin the fun out of your game.
Then theres techer. What the fuck was up with that Zanverse change? Are melee dps so insecure and so faggot that they cannot deal with a support class using their support properly and having that count as their dps? I don’t understand why it makes them feel so threatened they had to nerf zanverse to a static value, completely destroyed the value of the wind modifier in the techer tree.
I also feel like sega had no idea what support was supposed to be like come ep6 and eventually ngs. Etoile was supposed to be a support class but its only active support ability was overdrive which fully healed everyones PP despite being a stat you can’t see on the party menu. Everything else was completely passive support. Support is not really support if you’re not deciding when to use it, timing is important, etoile was just a more braindead flavor of hunter.
Then theres NGS techer. Shifta and deband still exist but provide completely neglible bonuses, on top of that were you use it doesn’t matter and you don’t even have to stop what you’re doing to use it since its a cd you can use while moving. This is supposed to be the class’s entire gimmick?
ai is improving
That's the wild part to me. The game is PEGI 18/M for Mature like BALDURS GATE 3 or GRAND THEFT AUTO. But they censor it like it's Ages 12 and under Sonic kid title and they do shit like remove genders to "not hurt feelings"
speaking of ranger, they utterly break the game. the enemy AI just cant keep up with ranger or ranged at all. they are clearly biased to melee.
I read that as "list of arguments" for a second
This is exactly what I mean. Posters like this.
This game will never be fun for anyone other than the average combo fag in a tales game. The classes were already sterilized of options with only 4 PAs to choose from per weapon still and every single class having a fucking dodge/block counter. Yes I love it when every single class is just phantom. Now you want them to remove the only thing that makes ranged classes ranged? Lol. Just say ranged classes are easier to play that is completely true and valid.
and you wonder why everyone walks around with garbage gear. the game has awful translation for items.
if you haven't noticed, your actions are client side in this game which are not only highly abusable to cheats but also to the AI.
Ok and? Who cares? This isn’t a PVP game nigger
most of the bad decisions in PSO2's long history can be traced back to it being a f2p gacha game.
beyond that? they wanted to modernize pso by shifting away from instanced, semi-randomized dungeons to large fields. except they didn't have the experience or budget for this, and they shot themselves in the foot by building it directly on top of pso2 to get around collab licensing, when it needed to be completely detached from all the poorly maintained code of the base game. too late to turn anything around by the time they acknowledged the community will never accept the initial concept.
The game is zero challenge because of Segas incompetence at designing their game client and netcode I mean FFS you need Vulkan to not stutter and NTFS is a hard requirement for a MMO thats unehard of.
Stupid bitch.
I dunno about most people, but I can say, definitively, the reason I stopped playing was because you can't do the core quests with a friend.
Me and my buddy played to around level 20, then got sick of walking to quest NPCs together, then playing alone.
disconnect mid fight
get booted back into town with no rewards or option to rejoin
this game has been out for like 12 years and this shit still happens like its a badly coded ps2 game.
I really just want to return to luster rondo autism...
I don’t understand how you have a game director that is responsible for almost killing your current money maker and then put him in charge of the expansion/sequel game you want to transition the players to.
Probably sucks a mean dick.
technically on the doorstep to making the "final weapon"
but it required like 30 fights of the big final boss with enough rare drop rate boosts so that it doesn't drop less than 5 per fight
hate the fight so fucking much because 80% of it is the stupid mars system crap that isn't very fun to use against a giant boss with inconsistent hitboxes like this is Sonic Frontiers Titan fights all over again
finally start to close in on the resources needed
oops we're no longer running the fight in the urgent quests every single time now because you didn't do 30 fights in a month like an obsessed no-lifer
also now we're enhancing an older weapon type to above 13-stars so all that build up is for nothing anyway and we'll probably just welfare your shit if the game somehow doesn't end this year
Fuck it.
have the elder god-tier music/sound/overall aesthetic design of PSO
game is still unplayable
I'm not even mad anymore. It's a quintessential case study on how to destroy an IP.
For me the game is directionless. Has been pretty much since NGS launch, so there's no incentive for me to keep going after I level cap. The boss encounters are mostly average, the newest UQ boss has that long ass MARS section that needs to be cut in half in time, jobs need greater identity, story is meandering and pointless. You have to have one standout thing and MMO players will tolerate a lot of bullshit. So they need to figure out what they want to specialize in and work hard on that. And at minimum we need to get the fuck off of Halpha, 4 year tutorial planet or however long it has been was a bad idea. Bring back instanced planets, give a shit about NPC story arcs if you want to go the FFXIV route, just fucking pick something.
Didn't HE get sued and lost his case last year anyway? Or was this headline from last year just always about someone else? I stopped following anything community related with PSO but I remember around the time I stopped hearing about how they got their channel nuked and I also feel like I stopped seeing HIM come up in discussions from the friends from PSO I still talk to ever since this article came out.
WHO the fuck asked for NGS anyways? Like nobody asked for this tumor of a 100gb different client to be attached to an existing game. Seems like the director gaslighted everyone into wanting it like HERO.
It used to have an option to switch back, is that gone?
No one really wanted it besides those who declared PSO2 to be dead from EP5, and seeing "big fancy new thing!" got a lot of people's attention back in 2020. Then it actually came out and everyone espousing interest dipped week one. There's no audience besides the ERP/customization crowds, there's no real depth or advanced development or anything in progression, there's nothing really interesting to do at length but grind rare drops for marginally different items, or resources to make them instead.
I genuinely start to wonder if Hamazaki basically was gonna get fired and immediately promised SEGA a bigger, better PSO2 with blackjack and hookers, they retardedly bit the bait and just figured all those AC scratch whales justify literally destroying the brand to the point of all those PSO2 festivals people would meet at drying up into nothing. And now Hamazaki gets to sit at the top of the pile pretending he's king of the franchise. But maybe I'm just projecting bitter, stupid thoughts.
We're just in an era where early 2010 live service hits are getting "too old" but no one knows what is really the best way to iterate on these titles in a way that does not just immediately lead to a massive loss in players like with what Bungie faced when jumping from Destiny 1 to Destiny 2. There was a massive drop of literally millions of players from that jump and that was just for a game with only a couple year old ecosystem. I cannot even image trying to do the same thing for a decade old game where you have some players who have poured in literally thousands of dollars over the years.
I think with the state of PSO now, Sega could get away with replacing NGS with a true PSO3, but thats only because NGS has lead to such a fall from grace that most fans would welcome a fresh start. I do not think Sega could just have easily gotten away with the same concept back in 2021. This exact scenario overall is a new phenomenon that I think the industry in general is struggling to find a good solution to and their stumbling to find that answer is why we have such a massive decline in the live service space to begin with.
The fact it took 10+ years to port it to the west.
pretty sure this was related to a jp schizo
If you guys remember, NGS was stealth announced at some random American Xbox event while Japan was asleep.
So it honestly felt like NOBODY asked for this shit because Japan didnt know about it and was just as surprised and Global definitely didnt know abut it either because wtf they just got the fucking base game.
Yeah they removed it.
we're finally bringing pso2 to the west guys
also in a year we'll supplant it with a new game
the game is running perfectly, not a single stutter, but for some reason vsync doesn't want to turn on (that means no gsync)
so far i've tried: turn it on in game, force it through the nvidia control panel, type dxgi.syncInterval = 1 inside the dxkv.conf file
and of course it's running in exclusive fullscreen mode
what do
This is something that pissed me off so much. It's something that is missing from the game itself, there's always going to be something better next update. In old PSO/PSU I could chase a big item at my own pace over like a period of weeks or months or just go do something else if I wanted to without fear of it being replaced next update.
its so fucking weird looking back at all this. what were they even thinking? i know the game was old in japan at that point but they pretty much stealth rugged them while asleep while spoilering the west and telling them "ur progress wont matter unless you like cosmetics".
joewari da.. pretty sure they killed all Linux/Steamdeck users among others
I think they knew that was going to happen because all the flavor text on items was essentially just removed
# Allows the Vulkan driver to opt-in to exclusive full-screen mode on
# Windows. Certain features, such as variable refresh rate or HDR, will
# not work without this setting, however enabling it will break certain
# games that use additional GDI windows, and it will also break alt+tab.
#
# This setting has no effect on non-Windows platforms.
#
# Supported values: True, False
# dxvk.allowFse = False
try that
The game still works on Linux/Steam Deck, the new anticheat has a whitelist for certain things. But it will flag certain stuff like Special K and certain RGB software even though it uses the same injection method as Reshade which is allowed.
Techer in PSO2
Suck up and obliterate 20 mobs at once with Zondeel+Wand Explosion
Support skills are powerful and require actively correct positioning
Boss with the three actually-fun elements
Zip around at max speed with Ilzonde, which scales with your max PP
Utility out the ass with access to Shifta/Deband, Freeze, Rezandia, Element Weak hit, etc.
5 different viable subclasses that all play materially differently
Extraordinarily fun and rewarding to learn every EQ mob spawn pattern for maximum suck and smack
Techer in NGS
You cast Shifta/Deband
Wand has been an untouched, unusable gimp weapon for 3 years
Optimal play is to literally hold down RMB for minutes at a time, stopping only to refresh Shifta/Deband and your Talisman shot
Two viable subclasses, one only works if you're an absolute giga whale sperg
I hate NGS so goddamn much.
Better we had gotten nothing because its such an abject worthless failure that its only purpose is to reduce the chance an actually good future Phantasy Star game also doesn't get released outside Japan.
All the flaws of this game could be forgiven if they had a roster of interesting enemies to fight and a system that kept them challenging and rewarding. Unfortunately they did not do that and instead every monster looks like some sort of fucked up sentient water cooler or something produced by an overheating GPU.
It's at its absolute worst here because there isn't a Spread Needle or a Serpen Plenzer or some shit for some sort of OPTIONS either. The scaling for damage is fucked as is, but the itemization was clearly YSOK trying to figure out how to do something but getting cockblocked by someone or something holding lofty ideas back, so it's just "oh this next set of weapons is slightly more damage and an auxiliary bonus gimmick on top that rarely matters unless you take a lot of damage or are in a party for stacking boosts". So when the next item inevitably drops, you either just grind to get it and replace shit so you have something to do, or you wait until the next reasonable grind or welfare drop. It's so bad that even at level 100 shit I'm seeing people running around with way outdated gear because they simply didn't see the need to go for the newest grind.
The welfare drops are especially the most retarded thing, they basically just ruined any incentive to grind at all, not that it was good to begin with. Even I've mostly just said "fuck it" to getting the best Units because I've done fine enough with the last drop.
The flavor text removal is fucking criminal. Also the localization is all sorts of fucked up.
They actually censored Diggah and Slave weapons
LOL
didn't they also censor DARKERS
and the jew weapon
gods be operative
YESSSSSSSS IT WORKED LET'S GO
I mean yeah it was but at the same time it was announced at what would have been Microsoft's E3 showcase if it wasn't cancelled due to COVID. I dont think there was any more real nuance to where it was announced compared to any other number of Japanese titles announced at an E3 show in years past. If anything Japan already had hints of something "big" in the near future when the end of the japanese Luster teaser hinted at the future of PSO2 to be "NOT EPISODE 7"
oh my fucking god i forgot about that
darkers turned into darkspawn
sato mag was simply "chat", this is a classic machine translation mistake sega fucked up on.
enjoy
sato mag was such a spammed mag in PSO, that's criminal
basegame fags conveniently ignore one of their animes showing a cutie getting beheaded on-screen
Sounds based to me
too stupid to just drag and drop and check if it's on vulkan
cmon man
dude NGS doesnt even have BLOOD. no joke. this game is rated M but its treated more casual than hello kitty zelda ocarina of time.
Greedy corpo jews and literal trannies. A tale as old as time itself.
ah yes, Episode Oracle, where the very first episode has Ash ride in on his first mission alongside the PSO2 trailer crew defaults
and then the rest of them horrifically die in the bloodiest content ever for Phantasy Star and then nothing like that ever happens again for the rest of the anime besides Matoi getting punted
Melee techer was endless fun in pso2. Made farming so much more enjoyable, especially when I was doing guild runs.
Yeah it's kinda weird they made a big deal about the girls dad dying and he didnt even shed a drop of blood.
FFXIV has blood at least and it has a lesser rating.
What exactly are you referring to? Akroselio & Legendios?
they also fucked up some classic pso weapon names. cant remember them all but one that stood out was guld milla is now garuda mira.
enjoyed PSO2 story despite the anime cliches because it at least did enough with the cast to make it fun, especially with all the later extra scenes that make them start interacting with each other more
not a single NGS character stands out versus any of the PSO2 cast because there's fucking nothing to do with any of them besides Glen's MY WAIFU angst; literally any cross-character interaction is entirely formal business besides Aina and Manon, and these two may as well be charisma blackholes for how little they do themselves
the worst gear/loot/upgrade system of any mmo.
Oh, that's right. They pivoted from the dodgy, but decades old korean anti-cheat for the vastly more dodgy unproven chinese anti-cheat right?
I keep forgetting about this, inevitably getting the notion to try NGS, then find this out and promptly discount the idea again.
pso2 classic with progression when?
ports of the old games on steam/consoles when?
it's fucking free money
let's put the guy who made the least liked episode that nearly killed the game in charge of making the sequel
was it nepotism?
funny tho
Honestly they just need to bring back the capital ship. It'll force the small population together more which will make the game feel less dead for one, and they need to have the standard ship stuff as well. Casino, concerts, and an instanced apartment. Not even asking for much there, just a reset to normal really. A shame they wasted their a realm reborn opportunity with NGS launch, because this would be a great pivot point. Nobody is going to know if this game every got good because it's in a death spiral, assuming it could ever be good.
It gets even worse
promoted a second time to the guy in charge of Phantasy Star as a franchise
meanwhile YSOK, someone who actually played PSO2 himself and gave a shit about it to try to sweep into a recovery with Episode 6, was punted to item design lead for NGS and then quit the company
So the idiot that decided that Hero should overtake the entire game and that everything should've been designed around Buster Quests for future content to be as cheap as humanly possible is now the guy leading everything with the franchise. Anyone expecting something big for an anniversary year is braindead retarded.
The game is so bad, IGN refuses to review NGS. But they will review Sonic and shitty games like King Kong.
It's a rebadged version of Xigncode 3. It runs better than Gameguard but its still a kernel level anti cheat. It spyware/keylogs your shit back to the anti cheat company instead of Sega while the game is running.
yeah, stuck at 105 Evoluvolt III for making an Akroselio Rifle when I need 150, and Legendios probably isn't supposed to be a total upgrade or something but the fact that they're already moving to break 13-star rarity with sidegrade Legend rarity shit just tells me there's not much worth in trying for an Akro at this rate
god, just give me PSO2 classic without that whole new genesis bullshit...
when is SEGA shutting this shit down so we can get a private server?
just play PSP2i
All I want is a offline version of base PSO2 with a extra difficulty after acquiring the Klauz weapons.
When NGS shuts down so does base. The games are tied together to the point where NGS will delay its maintenance for hours if there's a silly base bug.
private server
To play with 7 people? haha
It's better to play on the official one then
It was fun seeing how quick most people swapped to Hero for that shitty Dragon EQ. I think half of my team quit the game a bit after that
Even with YSOK gone it feels like the games itemization never changed. We're still getting inventory spam fucked to make players buy more slots. We're still getting gear that's stat sticks. We're still getting welfare that makes farming bis pointless.
this seething retard again
private server will bring balance fixes so that it can be played with a smaller playerbase
Still not playing FFXIV
Don't worry, a single FFXIV NA / EU server has more players than the biggest server of PSO2 JP.
official one is empty as fuck, no one's in there, because SEGA doesn't support it anymore.
they even made sure to completely kill it with that stupid graphic update
base pso2 doesnt really work as a offline game. the game mostly lives on fomo limited content just like ngs. remove that and you got a barren asf game. like so barren you may as well play pso1.
This mission was very innovative, i dont think i ever seen a game target your own character as the objective for the other npcs.
just fucking die already
But everyone is just afk in ligma laminsa or using 3rd party cheat tools to clear content/pvp....? I wouldn't call those "players".
how is that any different from any mmo? like you got people literally afk in pso2 ngs just dancing their modded asses off instead of paying sega $100 for it.
it usually dips into 700-800 players in the morning.
dress up faggots are the reason the game is in such a shit state right now anyway, fuck them wipe it clean and make them rely on the gameplay actually being good again before dumping shitloads of cosmetics for retarded whales
how much more content are they shitting out for this anyway?
the best time for evoluvolt 3 was during the ltq where you just did a little parkour for a few minutes
felt bad for people that got it the whole week earlier by trying to do every run of vael possible
dress up faggots are the reason the game is in such a shit state right now anyway
No it's literally Hmzk, he has no idea what good gameplay is as a director. Until he's tard wrangled for good or give a new franchise to fuck up. Phantasy star will never be good. Tbqh, it's a miracle there's still decent designs for fashion given how utterly devoid of creativity there is for gameplay.
Ffxiv is the only mmo that does not ban cheaters, so no its not like any other mmo at all.
hmzk is the main issue but whales still spending money on dress up means they don't see anything wrong with the game, its doing fine. If the gameplay was dogshit and they didn't have whales playing dressup like the mongoloids they are the game would start to fail instantly and they'd actually see "oh shit this was a bad idea we should fix this" instead of coasting.
they do in fact ban cheaters. they have to be reported for it. they aren't keylogging your system and injecting spyware into your ram like pso2.
no they don't lmao, there was a guy literally streaming blatantly cheating in pvp for days and it took like days for him to get banned and I think he even only got a temp ban lmao, I don't think any of the world first cheating teams got banned just warnings if anything
The roadmap has content up until Fall of this year. Anything afterwards is EoS or Version 3.
So nobody reported him for days until someone finally did. Not everyone is going to write out an entire police report form.
nobody reported him
delusional holy fuck
I'm in the mood for zome weeb scifi rpg.
Is it worth getting into?
How varied is the gear/armor sets?
They're promising a "new action system" later this year, which implies to me that they're either updating MARS or adding another tacky pile of bullshit on top. The way the "story" ended so far implies that we've discovered an ARKS mothership and that the protag is the Guardian from PSO2 with vague memories of the past, but we killed the literal primary antagonist of the plot and there's fucking nothing else but "the Starless are still active because killing their leader didn't end the war" so nothing is happening right now.
the worst part is the shadow for the next big boss they're implementing is Matoi's Profound Darkness-boosted self from EP3, so it seems a lot like they're basically pissing their pants and trying to wind back to nostalgia for PSO2 to unfuck their creative retardation, hot off the heels of having us fight Masquerade as an optional boss trial thing the past couple months.
hmzk is the main issue but whales still spending money on dress up means they don't see anything wrong with the game, its doing fine.
No that's not what it is it's not the whales and you know why it's not the whales? The player shops have gone to absolute shit, meaning no one is really scratching, not even the whales. The people who are still scratching are the ones hoping Sega sees this interest as a single and motivation to actually do something with NGS, because if NGS dies, literally all of phantasy star dies, franchise and everything. No pso1 remake, no return to classical single player Rpgs, no pso3, nothing. NGS dying means no one will ever trust anything Phantasy star related ever again because how badly NGS and base pso2 before it was handled and manage. Literally all the blame and all the focus needs to be centered on Hmzk and only him as the problem, not the "whales" they hate how the game is just as much as everyone else, not the Tranny CM, no amount of his fuckery will ever impact the overall quality of the games actual development, it's not the global released that caused this, all fucking roads lead to Hamazaki. No more distractions, we all know what the problem is, it's time to voice is openly and clearly.
so it seems a lot like they're basically pissing their pants and trying to wind back to nostalgia for PSO2 to unfuck their creative retardation
slow your roll, pardner
that's too much of a stretch, you're implying they're thinking about this kind of thing
it's more like content <exists>, content <recycle>
No reason to have multiple characters
Open World is dead
Combat is worse
Classes are worse
Immensely weaker characters and writing
Unironically the smaller and more linear maps were a lot more fun.
You can't even take NPCs with you on missions, or couldn't when I was playing.
log in
get 87 different exp boosters
48 different currencies
cosmetics locked behind gacha
bazillion mechanics and guides
uninstall and go back to 3 hit comboing in PS1
I mean, prior to Nameless City last year the story mostly wasn't relying on PSO2 at all. Then Nameless City was explicitly an ARKS Ship city, you fight a wave of enemies and a boss in an Oracle pod room even though there's seemingly no Xiao/Xion equivalent running around, the plot infers that your clone meteorn is not actually the clone that should've been sent down, and beating PSO2's story gave you a brief flashback of the protag remembering PSO2 EP2 briefly. For a game devoid of trying to connect itself to its surgically-attached predecessor up to that point beyond tiny continuity nods and using the Dark Falz moniker, it really feels like they suddenly pivoted in intent and recycling content just happens to be a big part of that.
The 10 months PSO2 got a western release before NGS was some of the best times I've ever had recently whilst gaming
It was so fun watching western players just play the content for the first time and falling in love with it
rare drop boosters are the biggest scam ever. they dont actually increase your rare drop rate. they just increase your junk drops.
It was during peak of covid too. A bunch of normies were joining in from lockdown.
I think at this point PSO kind of deserves to die. It's nothing that it used to be.
Are these still the best augs
Western players got accelerated content so of course they loved it. Imagine being stuck in Buster quests for 2 years straight with nothing else to do.
For a game devoid of trying to connect itself to its surgically-attached predecessor up to that point
i dunno about that, the lyrics for dark falz interception felt like it was always implying that the player character is strongly seeking their memory, and that was there before the fluff concept of clones was laid out
PSO used to be made by Sonic Team and co. Now it's done by Segas "Online R&D" and Sapporo Studio. They are basically the "gacha team".
They're promising a "new action system" later this year
I got a feeling they're gonna steal overlimit from Tales and thats how we're gonna get our new PAs or shall I say "arcane PAs".
It was so fun watching western players just play the content for the first time and falling in love with it
It was great because it shut everyone up claiming that "pso2 was too anime for the west!" For the 10 years we had begging Sega to bring the damn game over. That why's NGS hurts so much more, we were back, so close to Phantasy star becoming what it should have became sense Universe to the world as one Sega's flagship franchises, like monster hunter is to capcom.
Sega is where IPs go to die.
tiny area, no content
have they ever expanded the map or added new ones?
LEVELING IS SLOW AS FUCK
theres a desert region, snow region, and volcano region, and creative space void.
awesome, gonna give it another go
good luck
no music disc
youtube.com
leveling has been super fast since the cap was like 40
Matoi's Profound Darkness-boosted self from EP3,
Oh fuck no
Ngs is already a nightmare but we had an enough of a hapoy ending in pso2, they shouldnt mess with the story of the base game
We don't have any idea if it will be plot related or just another "lol here's a limited time quest with a random old boss thrown in"
the ngs story dumps a crap ton of exp on you. you will be level cap before you even finish your first class. you're supposed to swap classes at that point.
ts pmo fr ong
I hope it is a storyless instance
I would dare to claim they are going to use the model for what was going to be the dark blast for the viel hunar
Dark blast when we already have MARS.
Listen to me.
I'm not trolling, or pretending, or whatever the fuck normally goes on in these threads when shit like what I'm about to say gets posted.
I'm an an autistic retard, and for a good two years after PSO2 Global released it was my major hyper focus. I was fucking obsessed.
I swear to fuck if they ruin the good ending Base PSO2 had for the sake of their shitty mobile game disguised as a sequel and make Matoi a major plot point again, I will storm the offices of SEGA of Japan my self.
I swear to fuck if they ruin the good ending Base PSO2 had for the sake of their shitty mobile game disguised as a sequel and make Matoi a major plot point again, I will storm the offices of SEGA of Japan my self.
Anon, defeating the current final boss of the plot literally has visages of Matoi, Hitsugi, Harriete and Quna show up to our memory, but this is a millennia after that story ended and 500 years after ARKS got obliterated in-universe, so either it's just fanservice bait or they're plotting doing something with a character or two that will probably ruin the PSO2 ending anyway.
Years ago people data minned a model of the viel hunar for a 5th dark blast that never got used
I believe they will recycle the model
I can only wish you success doing another kyoani if that happens
they already kind of did mess with the story of base with ngs ARKS got turbo fucked by starless and we are the same character from base you even get a vision of the base pso2 characters when u kill the big bad starless at the end of ngs
why can't they just accept that NGS is a colossal flop and just rollback to EP 6 and pretend like nothing happened?
The game is the same level 100 cap as FFXIV with a decade worth of expansion packs and it only has 4 zones at best and one of them is the fucking TUTORIAL AREA.
Because they skullfucked the base PSO2 as well. It's like the recent political discourse: stupid decisions trying to force everyone else to do things your way don't magically undo the tremendous damages they caused or the trusts they shattered if you were to walk it back.
But the only fucked up thing in Puso Comi was Tetra getting groomed by pic related before he went out to try girly things to understand Mitarashi
They got fucked at least 500 years after the ending, everyone we know should be already turbo dead
Why are we alive?
Plot, no one can justify that
If we and matoi live forever like in the cellphone game idola, that is another issue but i dont think they did any sort of research to make the story
I still cant fathom that ngs is such a piece of hot garbage
Going to the base game everything looks and plays better despite being such an older work
no one can justify that
cold sleep is kind of fine, we don't really know the limits or why the GUARDIAN wouldn't have been released during the starless crap
speaking of cold sleep, what ever happened to the crew of the delta valiant? did they actually return or what?
Oh, I know.
I'm cool with them posting quick easter eggs for those that played through Base PSO2's story, and so far that's all it's been.
The two instances of Base PSO2 flashbacks happening have been locked behind Base PSO2 story completion on your character and they last for only a few seconds at most.
That's all they are so far: Easter Eggs
I'm also okay with the fact that we're still playing the Base PSO2 guardian. Cryo sleep would explain that.
I am NOT okay with them using any characters from Base PSO2 as major plot points.
I will burn this fucker down.
you'll get used to it
like the part where pso2 had red ring rico show up and wants to go back to where she belongs
I play these games for the community and half of them are genuine faggots, bailed immediately after launch where 90% of the game is just rp
How did PSO2 manage to attract so many mentally insane degenerates anyway?
the bans were literally them just feeding entire chat histories through the no-no word checker and banning the player if anything came up, regardless of context
PM friend, have a conversation entirely between the two of you two months after release, no way for any other player to see it
trannyjanny feeds your logs through the checker and finds you used wrongthink there
instantly banned
It's also worth noting that the troon "community manager" responsible for a lot of this shit constantly lurked Anon Babble, while simultaneously shitting on players who posted here, and denying that HE had ever used the site, despite being in Anon Babble sings videos
I know you check these threads by the way Gwiz you massive faggot. Chased any PSO2 youtubers off the game recently?
It's basically the only F2P game on the market at its time that had so many horny options of customization to such absurd degrees, and the only real stopgap was money/the shop and the damn anticheat. Notice how First Descendant had a fair amount of horny attraction until Nexon Nexon'd and they fled in droves
Easter Eggs
If it remains like that there is some peace of mind for now
The guy might be a faggot I totally agree with that but to be honest lurking here just to ban you guys is kinda based.
I hate the Anon Babble general like you wouldn’t believe. Absolute trash posted there
FFXIV costs money, Tera is dead, Mabinogi is too old, VRchat costs even more money, other anime MMOs are either mobile games or not "lewd" enough for ERPfags, etc.
PSO2 also loves to sell stupid shit that gives people more reasons to use the game as a glorified chatroom.
The more asian your MMO, the more crazy people you're going to find. Combine that with PSO2's clear focus on dress-up and you have this mess.
people with high iq already played the game to death for about 10 years all you got left on global were the biggest and loudest retards
Why don’t they just make something close to PSP2 again but with PSO2’s more fast pace gameplay.
bring back JA
bring back the large variety of PAs we used to have so theres more than one way to play a class
don’t add dodge counter and parry counter to EVERY class and come up with actual unique WA like in base pso2
bring back stances
bring back elemental weaknesses
add a bit more nuance to itemization so theres a reason to use null element weapons over non-elemental ones, maybe make null weapons have a bit more power than elemental ones while elemental ones are stronger when adding the weakness
bring back actual fucking Techs and not the gimmicky bullshit they have now I much preferred it when I had like 6 different techs per element giving me a metric fuckton of utility
bring back support techs, restasigne is the stupidest thing they have ever done
bring back reverser as a revive
add Jellen and Zalure to give techers more to do
Bring back the original Weak bullet
bring back field techs like zanverse and let them stack on top of each other so theres a use for megiverse
Idk I’d love to see stuff like this come back, it feels like they removed all the stuff that gave it depth like support techs, stances, self buffs that weren’t necessarily damage like massive hunter or bouncers ability to actively support while doing damage. I don’t think Hr, PH and Et weren’t fun but they certainly were really fucking basic compared to OG classes
>bring back the large variety of PAs we used to have so theres more than one way to play a class
The only thing I'll point out about your post is that in both PSP2 and base PSO2 there was ALWAYS one PA that was so far and above better than everything else in every situation that pretty much everyone only used it.
What went wrong is that they ignored over a decade of game development and still tried building the old style of game where you were just farming the same monsters over and over for gear with 0.00024% (actual value, not exaggerated) drop chance.
That was the first mistake.
When people like me were critical of this type of design, we were told "if you don't like it, stop playing." That was the second mistake, because we did as we were told. And now the game is lucky that it can get playercount above 3 digits on some days so the best it can ever get is life support.
Why won't they wrap up PSO2 and sell it as a full game like how they did with PSU as PSP and PSP2
I would purchase it in a heartbeat.
That is completely false.
ranger
out of the 11 assault rifle PAs I used 8 consistently, some more than others but each of those 8 had a use, the other 3 were entry level
out of 11 Launcher PAs 6 saw consistent use, 3 were entry level, 2 were very situational
Bow Braver
out of 11 PAs I used 8 consistently with Banish Arrow being the main one I used in almost every situation while the other 7 went into my banish arrow setup depending on the situation, at least 2-3 of those PAs were iframe PAs while at least 2 others IIRC were setup
I can keep going but these specific two I remember very clearly.
I also remember using a bajillion fucking techs on both force and techer. Most people would tell you its just illgrants spam but god fuck they were so wrong. Techer especially used techs just for utility or movement.
Like yeah sure some PAs like kickshot combo I would never fucking use but most PAs being useless because you think the gameplay loop was spamming one PA? Fuck no that is so wrong.
/pso2g/ is a surreal nightmare, gwiz and his erp buddies hate the game too but are to adicted to stop, while being too derranged to even be civil between each other, they actually hate each other as they are constantly trying to dox or at least name each other while leaking their own private chats
The lesson i got from lurking is to never join a Anon Babble guild, like, ever
ranger
diffusion round: use when close range
homing volley zero: long range, small target
impact slider: Iframe, solid damage when boss won’t leave you alone, I kited persona falz with this PA sometimes because Rising Slash spam heroes did no fucking damage
Stealth shot, iframes, standing sniper enabler
skyfire salvo: situational but good for aoe in certain positions
slideburst zero (parallel slider in jp): iframe, repositioning, standing sniper enabler, extremely important PA
satellite cannon: huge damage from above if you’re standing still
positron blast (end attract) huge damage from the front, used over satellite cannon depending on hitbox
Yeah no, you’re wrong. Scion classes were literal baby tier shit compared to base classes. If I compare base PSO2 ranger to NGS phantom ranger bullshit the difference is night and day. Fuck NGS
It's not because, because thanks to Ep5, hero being so much more busted than all the other classes, and your drop rate being tied to your dps ((this is why base had the most insufferable parserfags demanding getting uppity about anyone who was just trying to play base and why drop rates were so abysmal during late pso2 base days, handing out trade in endgame weapons was now a neccessity.), a bunch of cool pso2's PA were deemed "sub dps" and fell out of use because they weren't helping you match the dps of a Hero. When I say all roads lead to Hamazaki, I mean LITERALLY ALL OF THEM.
Hahaha fear eraser goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
It should be natural never to join a Anon Babble guild just from seeing the kind of people that post here anon
Really dislike that that ada guy is an admin along with his shitty bot
Was with that guy in a XIV FC and he was such an insufferable shitter.
You do realize Hero being top of the dps did NOT last forever right? Like lets not pretend that was even most of the game or that even before hero the dps loop wasn’t chaining different PAs together and not just one. There was even a passive for that. I am not stupid enough to accept your gaslight
ugly stupid avatarfagging character
half truth post obscuring critical information
Many such cases
Post your endless score
gwiz hasn’t worked on pso2 in at least two years now (no, being a guest on a skulls nightshade stream doesn’t count). they work on puyo puyo now and a new game for switch 2 was just announced. gwiz has been on my pso2 friends list since 2020 and i haven’t seen them online in several months now.
You do realize Hero being top of the dps did NOT last forever right
Yes I was there, it didn't matter, the damage caused to the mentality was already done.
stupid enough to accept your gaslight
He is not lying
There was a bit of balance in ep6 but no skill in your weapon would put you above the new classes
Gross, yet you all still act the same tho
open world
Thats just you being a fucking retard.
Do you have any idea how many rising slash heroes I saw even before ep6? Or even heroes who simply never switched weapons and only ever used sword or twin machineguns? Do you know how common life leech usage was in Jp? Or the phenomenal difference between a regular mpa killtime to a fucking expert one?
Eh. Phantom sucked shit and was pure rule of cool, and Etoile could do some neat things but was far from optimal. Hero's final buff by end to make their passive more effective and gain Hero Time better was what tipped them back over to being top tier, and Luster was inherently the best so long as you had the skill to make use of it - but as a Ranger main, I could do more damage and keep more uptime for doing damage than most Heroes or Lusters on average. It's the only game of this sort I had pure endgame builds for, and it's really easy to think the Scions/Successors dominated everything, but the reality is it became what it should've been from the start: an option rather than the only option.
Schizo community manager on top of a massive ban wave in global
That faggot tranny destroy the fucking game on his own.
Artist call faggot tranny GM out for ERP.
The same fucking GM that threatening live on stream to inject estrogen in minors without their consent.
Same artist win a design contest by SEGA.
Same artist get perma ban two days later after winning without any fucking reason.
Cataclysm that made a shitload if people quit that faggot game.
To further reiterate my point, you know what the "best pa" was for Wire Lance out all the shit you were able to do with it in base during this era? Holding current. That's it's everything thing else on wire Lance was deemed too trash to use. The entirety of Launcher was deemed worthless just because it couldn't weak bullet. This is the damage that was caused thanks to Ep5 fucking up the Dps Scaling.
See
Parsefag
The most skilled Hunter was not going to outdamage the most skilled scion class player but it was definitely ALOT closer. I am not going to pretend the difference was huge or even a problem like you are. It was only ever a problem during Heros release and it did not even last up until the end of Ep5. If I could outdamage a midwit Hero as a ranger on ep5 then so could any other class.
the entirety of launcher was deemed worthless
Wrong wrong wrong completely wrong. Don’t talk about weapons you never even used at a high level. Don’t talk like every single boss or situation is only 1 target either.
metafaggots get OUT
you ruin fucking everything
Post your endless score btw. Absolutely fucking post it if you’re going to spout this damage calculator in training mode bullshit.
the artist that got caught saying the n word in public chat
why is the conversation around this game and its controversies always so disingenuous? of course they got banned.
fuck the optimals, i want fun movesets, not this boring 5 moves + WA shit
I just realized NGS never had its own Arks Live or even Rare Drop Koi Koi,
Do they still have the same Nadereh concert after 4 years?
Doesn't GW2 has a bunch of batshit insane tranny mods b&ing everyone right now too? Why do mmo publishers allow this kind of shit? These types of games literally requires people to function.
Ive seen the clip in Syber’s video. Hewiz didn’t say minors, you’re just fishing for ((You))s.
I am not going to pretend the difference was huge or even a problem like you are
You retard, we aren't talking about the actuality of it, we are talking about the mentality hat was allowed to take root. Back then the overall mentality shifted from "wide variety of PA's" to " the bare minimum of of what gets to the highest Dps possible" because people wanted drops and they wanted them desperately.
There's like nothing on this hotbar...
Is this what non-xiv mmos are like?
I don't really talk to many people or even play all that much but from what I see and hear getting banned on Guild Wars 2 takes like extreme effort and luck. There's this dude who used to be on my server for wvw and he would just be drunk as fuck belligerent all hours of the day calling people faggots and stuff. People in my guild would be trying to rally people to report him but I don't think he ever got banned. Even months later after my guild died and they fucked wvw I saw him in one of the maps for the recent expansion piss drunk and pissed off about something or other.
Syber = PSO2 Karl Jobst
launcher was useless
how the fuck is this even an opinion? Do you think the entire game was just bosses?
Did you ever do expert requirements? Did you ever do Phaleg solo? Did you ever do a PSE burst party? Did you ever do divide quest? Did you ever do endless quests? Like what the fucking bullshit are you even saying?
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I don’t know anything about wired lance but after that launcher shit you just said I don’t even fucking believe you on that.
Gwiz = PSO2 Cosmo Wright
beautiful white men in prison
see
I'm not strictly talking about how the game plays, I'm talking about how the mentality of the game shifted to "minimum effort into maximum dps gains" and how that became the generalized playstyle of late base pso2.
PSO in general are lightweight on button management, though with how many actions you had by the end of PSO2's lifespan, you were probably fitting shit on your hotbar if you weren't placing a weapon multiple times on your selection to swap between its moves. There's a reason they could fit this thing onto the Vita even if it played like shit.
There was no “mentality” to it though. The only thing I’ll give you is that I didn’t play on the beginning of Ep5 so I don’t know about this dps affects your drops bullshit. But even if what you’re saying is true about mentality its still fucking wrong. If the average player wants to know how to play a class well they will look up information on it not be a one trick pony spamming a single PA and doing no fucking damage. This applies BEFORE AND AFTER hero by the way as pic related also existed with Fi. So no you are wrong.
There's a Vita version? Does it still work? I am intrigued.
If the goal was to maximize dps for drops then you for sure are not doing it by spamming 1 PA. The games mechanics fundamentally go against that
I was in one of the bigger Anon Babble alliances that was consistently in the top 5 ranks throughout PSO2 global's run, and for the most part it was fine. The dozenish guys that actually ran content were cool and played their classes well, but there was always a clique of faggy erps shitting up the alliance chat. Chuwu in particular was an obnoxious faggot.
Dead now, to make way for NGS still letting you play PSO2 in an "updated" yet butchered state. Though there was a spinoff of early PSO2, Nova, that retains a lot of the old gameplay with some Monster Hunter mentality on top.
What went wrong?
Oh neat NGS update
Everything is done within an hour
Have to wait up to 6 months for more actual content that isn't just rehashed
That's it really.
DPS affects drops
Are you talking about the shitty tower defense quests? Man that shit did not last forever come on dude.
It goes so much deeper than that. The tranny CM and their moderator team were totally batshit fucking insane.
everything looks and plays better
It doesn't even look the way it was designed to.
Damn. I was looking for an an excuse to dust off the vita.
How shitty is the new version? Is it even worth a download?
I remember syberbolt documenting all that stuff. But he also call out the faggot CM for his behavior and got ban. The CM also dox him and instruct his tranny squad to send death threads to his family, so he nuked his YouTube account to get away from the drama.
People weren't kidding when they say that game is infested with mentally ill retarded faggots.
Etoile was supposed to be a support class
No, every scion was supposed to be a jack-of-all-trades to intentionally obsolete the legacy classes. The EP6 buffs to the legacy classes were just a final bandaid YSOK slapped on to stem the bleeding.
ESL shitposting about personalities and not the game
lol
Someone post the bouncer vs techer zanverse memes please. I want to relieve the old days not read about this tranny drama from the Anon Babble general
Ep5 so I don’t know about this dps affects your drops bullshit.
So back in ep3 like profound darkness days and maybe before, there was alot of bitching about leeching EQs (like when I dude joins and extra hard pug joins with like hard level gear and affix and weapons with pots only for getting loot, this is what started parsing to become rampant in pso2, the affixing editing autism came later.) Sega first limited all EQs except seasonal to only be ran once, so people could stop bitching about runs taking to long, then to stop people from straight up going into quests to mooch off of the group, they tied your drop rates to your dps, so if you wanted a better chance at getting good loot, your ass had better actually have been doing stuff and helping. That was another part of why people got sucked into investing to the autism that was base pso2 affixing.
Who was that one dude who made a few NGS videos and the CM and all the freaks surrounding him ended up doxing and harassing until he deleted his shit? Did anyone back up his videos?
I still remember the ban apocalypse on global server. Was funny shit seeing it go down.
Damn. I was looking for an an excuse to dust off the vita.
PS Nova has a fair amount of a fan translation that covers a lot of text, but not all of it yet unfortunately. If you know JP as an aficionado of those sorts of games it's worth a look.
Don't bother. Most of PSO2 was livened up by concerts, urgent quests, and a variety of seasonal and anniversary events plus the cosmetic scratch stuff to keep things rotating, but almost all of that is gone besides generic holiday seasonals and a small rotation pool of urgent quests. That and the graphics got fucked up plus xigncode being a piece of shit. If you've got friends who played PSO2 maybe they can pull you in to mess around, but the game's still in a maintenance mode hell and bled out so hard that there's no overall value to it but as a monument to Sega's cockery.
Etoile had baked in (useless) passive support like healing party pp when you block or some shit and “one” “””support””” ability whos support was effectively worthless due to not even knowing when your party had no pp left.
It certainly was designed as a dps class on all fronts but they tried to sell it as the “supportish” class of the scion classes though I would say ph resta was more support than anything etoile brought to the table.
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3 PA kusoge lmao
we need NGS to EoS as soon as possible so we can get classic pso2 private server kino.
nta but didn't etoile also passively lower the cooldowns of everyone in your party?
sega
played JP for 8 years
mfw this thread
NA drama with trannies and ban waves is just an icing on a cake of dead game.
Game was fundamentally butchered by sega.
Starlight PSO2 probably still has a lot of work needed but I don't keep up with it that much
Okay but even so
1. That definitely did not last I especially do not remember that towards the end of ep5 or ep6
2. Spamming a single PA was not how you actually got high dps, it never fucking was when you consider how classes worked. Fi was the goto sub before Ph and Et and that had tech arts bonus
The only thing you are right about is the Hr debacle were it was better than all the older classes for some time. That also did not last because the community screeched like hell and rightfully so
iirc those buffs started in ep5 though because everyone lost their shit over hero being the only playable class
The games mechanics fundamentally go against that
Exactly hero was released being so Op as it was, with such a diminished selection of PA's and mechanics, compared to the classes it would be seen as lackluster as fuck if not for the power crept it did on the other classes. This why everyone didn't like how HMZK expected everyone one to switch over to Hero and play that till the end of time.
this hurts so much I just want the old graphics back
No they had a passive that made everyone else’s healing items better and another one that passively restored PP of everyone when they just guard (useless).
Overdrive was a full party pp/hp heal on a huge cooldown, so also useless you would use it selfishly every single time and you would never use it to heal yourself or someone else
FF14 is a tab target MMO. PSO is an online action RPG. Completely different genre of game.
You are still only talking about a single point in the life of this game that didn’t even last that long.
same dogshit game but with the old commvnity back
sounds great, sign me up
Why the fuck global didn't get access to expert blocks will forever be lost on me.
Run by who exactly? Aida?
Gwiz doesn't have shit on Aida, if you think you know what autistic tranny tyrant can do to a community, you don't, you have no fucking idea. Aida's mafia won't just make you terminate your social media, they will make you flee your country.
Troon activists hijacked Sega of NA, threw all player feedback in the trash.
I remember that shit, he filtered out real players complains and concerns and just pass to SEGA his ERP friends dumbass questions.
old community
global
LOL
global shart 2 is just jp's immigrants fleeing from the geoblock
Not anymore... and it is still such a huge difference
Aida doesn't have anything to do with Clementine or their Starlight PSO2 project as far as I know.
And yeah seriously fuck that cunt.
Is it poasible to still play PSO2 or did they completely replace it with the shit version?
Literally every class weapon other than wire blades feels worse
Don't care just wanna play classic pso2 again without NGS tumor attached. Could give less of a fuck about anything else.
Anyone?
unironically porting it to the west to pander burgers, they got rid of many small things that made the game unique like the voices
You can, but they fucked up the lighting with the graphics update.
never left bro
It's still right there to play negroid.
I recently poked my head into PSO2 and NG. I had a bunch of mats on some characters I needed to move over to mat inventory. Luckily, I had some free mat storage booster that let me do that.
PSO2's UI is so small that it makes me uncomfortable playing with it. I tried adjusting it a few different ways, but no matter what I did, it's hard to make text in-game readable. If you have bad eyesight, 'fuck you" I guess.
NG, I barely touched, but it feels...I don't have a good term other than "bad game feel". It's odd though, because it also feels like they're close to not sucking but there's so much suck all over the place, it swamps that non-suck up. It's mostly tied to the UI being a mess, poorly explained mechanics for combat, and wonky interaction between the movement and the environment.
Bad game feel is more subjective, and it's hard for me to pin down every single quality, but intuitively, there's a wrongness to it that I don't care for.
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That definitely did not last I especially do not remember that towards the end of ep5 or ep6
It did and was still going on even episodes 5 and 6, but towards the end of 5 and 6, drops just didn't matter anymore unless it was for camos, but they're weren't that many to go full dps autist on, but as I said the damage was done and there was no recover from that.
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Spamming a single PA was not how you actually got high dps, it never fucking was when you consider how classes worked.
Again you missed the point, we aren't talking about how it actually was we are talking about how it was perceived and how it was perceived in late base was, thanks to Hero, the general consensus in order to keep up was to "trim the fat" and only use the essentials for maximum dps. That was the new mentality of the player base. It's why when they went into Ngs and spliced, repurposed, or outright removed so many PAs from base. They only kept what was the "essential". The only class you couldn't trim that fat from in base was Gunner, and it's why gunner in NGS is a massive, underwhelming far cry from that. So much of gunner couldn't be translated into a smaller "simplified" NGS kit.
check the general
these are the most recent posts
Nta i used to main force the class got nerf'd SO HARD so many times
The % increases you could stack meant jackshit at the middle of ep5, when hero relased i could almost do as much damage as a hero being a crystal canon with the 13* rod mother gave, then after some update force did a joke of damage while remaining ultra frail
What part of "the irreversible damage was done" are you not understanding anon.
check the general
Poor you
It is not an exaggeration how nasty those people are
They made a bad game and then allowed trannies to turn it into their own personal Second Life circlejerk.
old community
pos2 jp translation patch faggots
in, in fact, did not laugh at all
Force is hilariously fucked in NGS too. It's like they hate casting techniques so much that it sucks at melee, it isn't really doing much damage for casting, and it brings nothing overall to parties but elemental downs while severely lacking in high damage opportunities besides combined techs, which the Techter can use too. I don't parse, but NGS Force is apparently the lowest scoring class in the entire game.
I scrolled through it. It's 99% mentally unwell freaks. It's honestly kinda sad.
force and techter were fixed recently
current lowest damage class is gunner (get fucked)
killed PSO2 to force players to play an unbaked "New Genesis"
made subscription almost worthless by mitigating the benefits immensely
literally off-screen killed every character people ever liked, only to introduce a bunch of emotionally volatile retards as main cast
Removed trading entirely, no way to gift anything in NGS, all you can do is buy or sell to each other, in a disgustly scalped market full of opportunist assholes that want profit, no matter the cost
community full of degenerates
barely any story, even after 3+ years
Couple of neat bosses, but basically every enemy is following the same theme
horrible gameplay, no class truly plays to it's own strengths and stands out uniquely besides maybe Techter and Ranger
Every single class plays exactly the same - dodge/block, counter attack, rinse and repeat
barely any class customization, barely any "modded" techniques/photon arts, hell, there's barely any techniques or photon arts to begin with
Whale pandering at every turn, they even sell story and level skips now
most difficulty is just dpsgating, or the matter of being oneshot or not
Most enemy AI is garbage, and simply cycles attacks whether they're optimal or not for hitting the player who's floating in the air 90% of the time, out of reach of most enemy attacks
the "ARKS" fashion is ugly as sin, and the weapons are mostly pretty ugly too
nothing to strive for besides building your custom creative space (home instance)
the cost of trying to keep up with the current best gear is impossible for anyone except whales who sell cosmetics from gachas, or scalpers
Community manager is a thinskinned Anon Babble coomer tranny (allegedly) who literally got a famous youtuber critic (Syberbolt) legally silenced for speaking the truth and doing detective work on that creep
Costume designer has a blatant highheel fetish, literally 90% of the women's outifts have heels on them. whether it's thematically fitting or not
I could go on but post limit
PSO's idea of "live service" was giving you shit for free.
Online quests? Free.
Download quests? Free.
What, that's not enough? Well, here's Booyaka over here, where all those quests and others are archived, and you can just cut us out and dl direct to your vmu.
Game never should've added a sub fee. That was the beginning of the enshittification.
classic pso2
Not with the fucked up lighting no.
If their private server is running the same version of the game as the official one, PSO2 in its real form is still a lost media.
I gave up on NGS less than a month after release, but I remember Fo's techs feeling fucking awful. You just floated around awkwardly spamming the same tech repeatedly while trying to find counter windows to do slightly less shit damage.
Isn't Fo top tier for time attacks though?
cope newfaggot
Who the fuck am I gonna play it with? It's fucking dead you moron. SEGA buried it.
I'm pretty sure they're working off of the last version of the JP client before the engine update.
Retards will tell you troons as if the global version of PSO2 is worth anything more than shit.
The real answer is pic related.
its a general thread
they pretty much all are that desu
Could give less of a fuck about anything else
apparently you do give a fuck about your community of mentally ill trannies which was what mentioned
I would play that.
However are they also planning to just release server to general public, so everyone could play the game offline on their PCs, or they're gonna hog it and monetize it, basically mimicking Sega?
It's sad that the gacha threads are the most sane ones on Anon Babble
Not that many generals are worse than /pso2g/, for damn certain.
The amount of drama it thrives on literally turned them all into virtual troons who believe they're forever 16 year old prom queens.
friend became official ambassador to PSO2
hopelessly addicted to it
blows hundreds every month buying cosmetics he just drops when a new one comes out due to fomo
part of the problem why Sega won't EOS this shit already
playerbase never grows past a few thousand no matter what they do for additions
want him to cut his losses but he keeps jumping into these custom avatar chat room type games everytime.
I know you check these threads by the way Gwiz you massive faggot.
Hope this faggot get made by a IP logger again.
you can keep talking about perceived but my memory of outdamaging rising slash heroes on non-expert MPAs using fucking impact slider remains, and there were far more non expert players than expert ones. I never once had a problem with drops either, I’m pretty sure the way that worked was that you simply needed to reach a damage threshold not be the absolute best.
Global in comparison, literally never got good, every single player I encountered in global sucked.
The part were its your headcanon and assumption. You are literally generalizing an entire community of players. Either you did not play on ship 2 or you are talking about your experience with some inner circlejerk of yours
b-b-but the trannies
never reply to me again you massive cocksucking faggot.
or they're gonna hog it and monetize it, basically mimicking Sega?
You know the answer to that anon. There was never any purpose to the game other than dressup. Allowing anyone to play the game offline or skip the cosmetic grind means everyone is just going to idle in lobby and you miss out on a great opportunity to profit off retards.
they have a lot of porn to spam, i think that keeps them humble
edit: forgot to mention i am trans.
i'm immune to that from someone like you, i'm not embarrassed about how new you are since you're so basic about it
if you wanna dickwave, let's decide on a metric
i'll win
But even if what you’re saying is true about mentality its still fucking wrong. If the average player wants to know how to play a class well they will look up information on it not be a one trick pony spamming a single PA and doing no fucking damage
Oh you sweet summer child. The guides back then were consisting of only which techs and PAs were worth using and which ones weren't. What you fail to understand base, especially with base Fo, was despite all the varied mechanics and technical nuances to the classes base Pso2 was a very very gear based game. In the case of Fo if you did anything off element, you weren't playing force right. And get this because just about every enemy from ep5 until 6 was weak to light which why element change (light) was always the most expensive element change for your weapon in your shops, if you weren't using grants anything in most of the relevant content at the time you weren't doing dps.
Proof?
It really depends on the game. NGS is like tailor fit for gooner trannies.
This recording here is the last time I ever played this game, seriously. I finished what I wanted to do, stopped playing, then uninstalled a month later. Haven't returned to it once.
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There was never any purpose to the game other than dressup
I don't believe the kind of retards that say shit like this actually enjoy videogames. Yes, the average player was a drooling retard, but the actual gameplay of PSO2 was a fucking joy to dive into with all the cool shit you were capable of through the myriad of animation cancels the game had.
Yep, he said minor, don't try defending the faggot tranny, disgusting pedophile apologist.
Either you did not play on ship 2
This was in all ships, even 2.
Kek, you fags were always a laughing stock to PSO players.
It's associated with Clementine PSU so you can probably just expect it to be managed like that. I haven't played a lot of Clem PSU but it seems fair as far as rates and monetization, but they don't release of the server emulation software or anything, all closed source.
PSO "fans" are the action game equivalent of old Guilty Gear "fans".
Ragol Park
God damn I have been to your CS at least 20 times, I even found your unfinished recreation of the Mines area under the map. Going there always makes me feel sad.
STILL
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STILL
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HALPHA
brings up guides now
I used some of the most commonly recommended guides and video guides and not a single one of them told you just use one PA. Like just thinking of the braver, partisan hunter and ranger guides I read I can tell you’re completely wrong but on the off chance that other classes weren’t like that (I seriously doubt that still), Post the guides.
I will wait. I am very curious which Force player made a guide saying “just use Illgrants” because they saw a Fo spamming it on mother or some shit.
I know for sure Gunner (which used Fi sub forever), Fighter, Partizan/Sword Hunter, Ranger, Braver, Force and Techer were not just “spam one PA”.
Bouncer got pretty close to it, especially on dual baldes but even that had some nuance comboing techs into PAs.
Maybe Su? But Su was pretty basic in of itself and all its depth and nuance came from pet customization
Also when are you posting your endless score? Someone calling someone else a summer child would have that right?
tfw remember I have an SH trident on jp
IM RICCHHHHH BWAHAHAHA
I’m not defending, you just don’t have to lie to criticize gwiz as a CM. They weren’t a good CM but to call them a pedo is just dishonest and unproductive to any actual criticism of NGS or Sega.
nameless city isn't retroactively off planet, it has been referred to as such before we got there
Hewiz
ITS MS!!!!!!!!
I really like how this isn't just a recreation of what was in PSOBB, but a mish-mash of different things from it.
Bouncer got pretty close to it
the bouncer era that was the forward lunge blades PA followed by weapon actioning backwards for just enough distance to activate the ring's bonus for ramming into the enemy using the lunge PA on loop was hilarious
2018 post
Obsessed with a tranny that hasn’t worked at sega in 2 years
ngmi im afraid
If you aren't slutmaxxing playing a cute girl character with thicc thighs, a huge ass, BiS 40mil meseta makeup and accessories, and every revealing outfit and bikini you can get your hands on you're literally playing the game wrong and playing the wrong game.
NGS and Hewiz ruined the game
I gave up when the new big bad super enemy that killed the protagonists of PSO2 were just recolored dolls, and the story devolved to "we need to re-unite the 4 regions to fight the evil threat... again!"
Not sure why I gave it that long to begin with, sunk-cost from PSO2 I guess.
god NGS is so fucking shit
every time I forget a thread like this reminds me how shit it is fuck
it's not really inferred that they killed the pso2 protagonists, it's supposed to be a few generations after their time
we don't really know how long pso2 casts are supposed to live though
especially on dual baldes
Dual Blades at least had a very high ceiling on their combos, Jet Boots were shoehorned into spamming Vinto only.
Glad to see Anon Babble nigger tranny apologist still defending their boss, even after two years :)
I dunno, I played JP
I just like to make fun of NA oodans for thinking they know shit about the game
Pretty sure that combo was never actually optimal, just the easiest "good" combo to do with the weapon.
Nope, calling a pedo a pedo should be a social service.
Honestly I didn't remember the details, I just completely checked out when the Starless were just recolored dolls, and the first story quest was "Aina is sad... again"
They made NG. If it stuck with just base PSO2 it would've been ten times better.
Vinto Spam jet boots happened much later as far as I am concerned. I very much enjoyed when JB actually casted techs mid combo or when their zanverse PA was legitimate optimal support but that didn’t last long
NA players are fine, JP purists are the weird ones
Reminder that global is still censored in 2025.
Forever troomed by california.
What makes Trident so valuable anyway? I'm more of a Fate guy, so those camos costing billions makes sense.
It amazes me how much time people put into these. This section here actually made my chest hurt. I seriously think the only content in the game that isn't completely soulless is shit like this, and that's only because it's shit the developers have no involvement in.
Seeing PSO go to shit is seriously depressing.
open world was a mistake, I yearn for the corridors
Collab item.
this came to global, but not fate
instead we had to wait for melty blood with ngs
man, the collab choices have been so weird, too. like, okay, frieren as a big popular thing, ghost in the shell and rurouni kenshin for their revivals, sure, but seven deadly sins? spriggan? shit, we're still relatively fresh from a certain magical index, and that series has been dead in the water for adaptational stuff besides an ongoing railgun manga thing. and now they're doing the fucking reincarnated as a slime years after its relevancy in the anime slots.
sega is just plain schizophrenic
NA players are fine
lol lmao even
things seamonkeys say
I think you could have a blend of shit. Open world for some stuff and instanced dungeons. I wouldn't trust Sega to handle that, though.
I remember pso2 SEA. Its a mystery how that region always get the first ports.
This is just pure speculation, but in the cases of missing PSO2-era collabs, I suspect they were too cheap or didn't want to renegotiate for global rights even though things like KoF are collab-happy. NGS-wise, it looks like whaever the bargain bin had. Frieren went on a collab-spree a few months ago and GiTS and boomer animes tend to be cheap to licence out.
Honestly I thought they were gonna be more inventive with their assets without even having to cook up wholly new shit for every little thing. I was expecting like, moving concert escort fights across the field, or big bosses that were actually roving the place and not just spawning in a single location to beat on, etc. They even have the ability to spawn platforms anywhere, something that gets used in limited time quests but was functionally abandoned for incidental stuff.
Hell, I expected too much effort in the first place. Besides some limited time shit tied to anniversary or fucking Nijisanji, we still have ONE CONCERT 4 years into the game's lifespan. The same two fucking songs since the second region came out, looping multiple times a day every several hours, for this goddamn long.
It would be pretty fucking funny if the reason they didn't do more concerts was because they didn't want to dub them in multiple languages
4 years in and the game just got new voice tickets kek
Understand who is at the helm of this game currently, the guy who thought for a who PSO2 episode, players should only play one class, doing the exact same quest, over and over and over again, No added fields or areas, no other need quest types. just the same buster quest throught the whole episode. When you get that you understand why NGS, despite being able to do potentially whatever is in the state it's in.
It's hilarious how bad of a read they made on so many small things. I remember in vanilla keeping up on when certain concerts were up and logging on just to participate. Then because a UQ is always after I'd stay on to do that. Real intelligent game design, side content persuading a player to do main content that they otherwise would not. Meanwhile in NGS we've had the same damn set for years, it's not interactive, and you can just idle in any city so it's not even a community thing. Real dumb design and not interesting. Should not have bothered if it was going to be so half assed.
Yeah believe me, I know now how much Hamazaki is in this thing. Dude was not only lazy but budget-ass-tight about what he would work with. Even with the kneejerk damage control of EP5 they couldn't afford to do much more than what was already planned out and had to hop so many hoops. It just highlights how much NGS was effectively the EP5 loop of basically one relevant thing to do for half the game's lifespan so far, and then the other half is a grand whopping total of two-three things to do with little variation.
I don't think it'll leave Halpha before it dies. They may have set up an Arks ship, but there's no where for them to go with how little budget it feels like there's left, how it feels like a skeleton crew running the project and everyone else ditched for greener pastures. There's nothing to get excited about because from the get-go they had a penny pinching shitbag in charge that limited anything they could've ever hoped to do.
Whoa, that's really fucking cool
Honestly makes me wish this is what Leciel at least would've been instead of floating cube rooms
f2p mmos seems to be a failed experiment nowadays
it was abundantly clear after year 1 NGS that they were not going to make the money they needed to do anything meaningful after revealing the entire continent
It was really a flash in the pan moment to experience an early 2010's mmo go through its content schedule blistering speed.
I don't know how much influence HMZK has as series director, but NGS director has been a different guy for a while and the game felt even worse somehow.
I would love to be on the timeline where PSO2 had a worldwide release in 2012. It would've died in the West during EP5 like God intended and we would all be spared from latelets' endless sucking of its cock
actually bothered to learn the affix system
one of maybe five guys in a full alliance that actually had good units/weapons consistently
The welfare units really did a number on the playerbase. Too many lazy faggots were given an excuse to never actually play the content and just wait for a handout, they they still wouldn't put some basic augments on, and it only got worse with NGS' announcement.
Anon Babble has a lot of generals with salty residents
But /pso2g/ is above them by far, they all read as malicious and unstable
I don't know how much influence HMZK has as series director, but NGS director has been a different guy for a while and the game felt even worse somehow
It's got spams and attempts to go somewhere, but again HMZK is "Series Director" at the end of the day, It can go 3 ways. the new guy is just as bankrupt, HMZK is Shooting down his ideas, or HMZK is keeping him restrained with a shoestring budget too narrow to get anything meaningful done, if you want to be hopefully, like me (fucking hell...) then by the end of this Road map, HMZK is just total to fuck off from the games's dev side completely and only overseeing the seriess pr and marketing from now on and the actual devs can finally work in peace.
It's got spams
spasms*
they're trans, but prefer the term gooners.
get assigned to a game your predecessor just kneecapped
manage to salvage it and regain the goodwill of the fanbase
get demoted to item design
retard whose mess you cleaned up gets put in charge of the next game
Sega intentionally guts the game you saved to force players over to the new game
Is there a director that got shit on harder than YSOK?
Based thinker. Literally he is the root of ALL problems and has been for years, but SEGA wont do anything because muh nippon values or some stupid shit. I still log on here and there to see what's new and use the millions I saved up to buy new stuff on the store, but that's literally it. I really hope they decimated it to transition to PSO3 or a spinoff by next year.
I fucking wish the cone and spheres could look that good. I was lucky enough to play when they came out, so I nabbed them for normal human prices and they do NOT look as nice as that mod.
This nigga just doubled down on HMZK's successor meme but the players lapped that up because there were 4 playable classes instead of one. The content format didn't change at all (run this EQ/LQ as daddy SEGA tells you then spam the episode's quest), infiltration flopped, affixing was kneecapped, and basically the art direction carried the entire episode.
because there were 4 playable classes instead of one
Fighter and Gunner had higher DPS potential than most of the scions, Force still had a niche over rod Phantom in most content, Ranger was Ranger, etc. The only legacy classes that were truly dead in EP6 were Summoner and Hunter which just became an objectively inferior Etoille.
old non successors got buffed to be on par
new successors are just cool and did their own thing while not taking away from every other class like hero did
this is le bad
shut the fuck up ngstard
new successors are just cool and did their own thing while not taking away from every other class like hero did
must've been why mpas were full of them and hero kek
NOOO WHY ARE PEOPLE TRYING THE NEW THING
Crazy how this same shit happened in ngshit without having successor classes too
Because they took less effort to play at a passable level.
nah by EP6, you saw more class variety, what helped is that not only the classes get buffed on their own, Legacies could also sub all the scion classes except hero, and again access to some of their fuckery as well.
Katana Ph filtered alot of people, it was called Phantom's weakest weapon, when it was actually the most busted shit that could make you literally untouchable when you know what you're doing.
not that guy
what are you referring to?
the 3 people outside of PSE bursts that play waker?
class updates?
joined a few episodes into NG cause my pal wanted me to play with him
remember suffering immensely just to make a robot guy with the FOMO customization system
got to endgame of NG pretty fast and got bored of standing around and staring at fat titty anime girls
never actually tried the og pso2
Did I miss out on a ton? Feel like its far to late to go back now.
braver comes out
everyone plays braver until bouncer comes out
everyone plays bouncer until wanker comes out
everyone plays wanker until luster comes out
repeat with class updates
>everyone plays wanker until luster comes out
so we're just making shit up
ok
shit you reminded me that I have the fate collab camos on my old jp account. But I foolishly stopped playing when global came out, just to drop this turd after it was ruined with NGS. open world felt bad, and I was a gay that played a guy wanting to be cool but I swear they fucked up both male and female faces. that or maybe I just hate change, I dunno.
What does like excalibur run on jp? anyone know?
Yes and no. You "missed out" on limited time garbage that's just recycled mobs and areas like NGS did. The game's permanent content can be done in a weekend.
it was a game hard carried by le community and vibes (like most MMOs really). Without it there's fuck all to do.
there's several hours of story, if you're in to that
the rendering for those story scenes is so ugly now though, ngs fucked up base horribly by needing to consolidate the engine a little bit for the new cosmetics
on the cosmetics side, playing cast is way better in ngs, you have so much more freedom over color changing your parts and accessories
gameplay it's hit or miss, some people don't like vapid "iframes out of everything" action type gameplay, and if you don't like that then you're not going to like pso2 (but then you won't like ngs either lol)
you missed out on a non turbo fucked economy and a lot of old content got super power crept but the game mechanically is still is more fun and has more depth than ngs
After NGS proved to be a disappointment I bounced to Guild Wars 2 and man, what a difference in how to handle "open world" maps. I fucking love how active maps feel and all the different event chains and world bosses in that game. Shame it's tab target combat though, something like that with real action combat would be sick.
that's the NGS line up of class releases, he means Slayer which is NGS's Luster.
as someone that also enjoys robutts, you are probably better off waiting for a miracle in the private server to come out if you want to properly enjoy base pso2.
but this guy is right honestly. I know I'll get shit on, but my fondest memories were doing the base defense EQs, the music was absolute kino. mostly 3-4, doing mpa with my bros on ship4 in jp. The boss EQs were great too, and so was the anga hunting for the 13 stars. the activities all kind of blew in a vacuum but doing it with people made it cool.
actually still some of my favorite music from games ever, did NGS ever have anything to rival base defense music, or falz hunar theme?
infiltration flopped
Wasn't my experience, my alliance had groups going for it pretty often before cradle fucked the game. I really liked pre-cradle ep6 endgame. XQ4, ship inflitration, divide, solo sodam, final lament. Good fucking times man.
maybe because they were fun ????
actually still some of my favorite music from games ever, did NGS ever have anything to rival base defense music, or falz hunar theme
no, not in terms of theme setting, those are hard to beat to be on honest, but even then there's not alot, just like the last fight of Leciel and Nameless city, the first part and the trial. there should be so much more though. would have been if we were allowed to actually progress dev wise with NGS.
the name mistake is so easy to make that i didn't even realize that part of the post was a mistake
but virtually nobody played waker a week after it released till the retem alnothe rank 1 freaks moved over to dext base rank 1, where it happened to have the perfect damage at the time to make enemies die and respawn as quickly as possible
it's just an awful class
Why is Farce so popular?
what killed waker was main classing the most important part of Waker, Marmelo if not for that, you'd see more people using waker as a sub.
pse burst aoe spam pp economy
the ex augment that gives the pp on enemy death effect may change things over time though
Talis is still busted
After all this time that's it?
not that guy, but last time I touched the game was etoile in ep5 I think? I stopped like an idiot thinking "oh I'll just wait for NGS" and boy I'm kicking myself now for regretting not playing the pre-cradle content. was it good?
I know there was definitely more to it, but it was fun to meme on the ranged stuff, mostly fo, because lmao hold rmb and jump, kill with zero effort or aiming etc.
More importantly, is there anything interesting in those regions?
Remember who's running this show, anon.
there's also a floating blue metal are with various biome themes and a city that kicks you out every 15 minutes
whether anyone is in those areas depends on what the current content update is
You got fooled, that is mwiz
Did pso2 jp ever have a nikke collab? I swear I logged in one day and saw someone's character looking like scarlet
The game diverted all of whatever little development it had toward boss fights instead of fields since Ver2.
There's something coming up but according to datamemes it looks like Ultimate versions of the existing fields. Have fun.
Not sure if there was a nikke collab but there really probably doesn't even need to be, people are crazy with the character creator and huge amount of accessories and clothes they've released over the years. I remember seeing someone's character that was an N64 controller with moving joystick on twitter.
It never collabed with Nikke but you can do a convincing cosplay of most things at this point. I also ran into an Alice myself
FOMO, korean shit does it constantly
no one wants to make cool pso2 figures of the scion class people
keep shilling big tit blondie
God dangit. I miss pso2. I miss phantom. I miss shooting blue missiles out of my ass after dodging, I miss doing no damage because I like spamming the scythe moves.
No its all empty useless ground
Story mode is hyper bad too
what i miss most about phantom is using the pso frozen shooter weapon camo and having the normal attack bullets come out with the same pacing and it reminds me of playing pso1 instead
ranger rifle bullet pacing is so lame
That sucks. I don't want to simp for genshit, but at least they took a page or two out of BotW and added in environmental puzzles and off-the-beaten-path quests you could stumble into. Nothing groundbreaking, of course, but at least it breathed a little life into the open world. There was a lot of CAWNTENT in genshit if you liked hunting for chests, collecting little bobbles and so on. Real videogamey shit.
The maps are like the 1st one
They made a couple of missions with rooms that are more interesting but
being 2 missions the fun dies really quickly
The rewards are worth nothing
This is a game to avoid, anything else, really, anything, even a cellphone gacha is more fun and less time consuming than this "game"
what's more dire is people who have already clocked out can't even be excited to come back to the stuff they assume would pile up over time because it's all limited time
and it's of course not their first time. pso2 was built upon this bullshit design. there were some shit i wanted to revisit from the 2012 launch that were long gone by the time i returned to the game. i played it almost nonstop up to ngs and think i ran into the mother/apprentice eq with the rideroid/shmup sections exactly fucking once
and yeah, if the game was less aggressive on the fomo i would probably hate it less
not having things to do all the time is fine. i'm not that live service brained and have other games to play
but don't fill your game with fomo shit just to have the players stick. at that point you're just asking for everyone to get burned the fuck out because you're forcing them to play through a drought
collecting chests got stale once you realize all of them have the same content: fodder junk and some gems. every chest is identical to the last
gacha and infinitely updating live service were a mistake. it fucks with every aspect of your game down to its loot reward structure