New Vegas

You guys can't just discuss one game for a decade, you gotta let go now

Fuck you, Deus Ex is 25 years old and I still play it and talk about it

I physically can't stop myself from choosing House

Lmao fuck no. He talks big but new vegas is just a bigger nipton. If he was actually as good as he think he is he'd already have an empire by 2280.
The way to go is NCR or yes man depending on whether I'm roleplaying as someone who'd want to be in charge or not.

Not consuming 5 cans of Pork N' Beans, 3 bottles of Nuka Cola, and a deathclaw omelet first

NGMI

He's kind of immortal.
At the very least, he'll live the longest of any faction leader.
So, he will probably raise the most stable civilization.

*unplugs mr. house*

gets a fucking leaf for everything you've done

stop posting the same shit threads about this shit game

House is an incredibly evil retard if you do even a little digging into what he’s okay with. The TV show was completely right to depict him the way it did and the trannies are coping hardcore.

I thought trans folx hated House?

taxes are evil
having sex with men is evil
(you) are evil
There's no good side in new vegas

I like that it at least gave you the option to not just shut him off, but go find his body unplug it and shoot his retard ass. NV was terrible so I do that every time

i love new vegas so much bros

youtu.be/dtbOy5FpJ-4?si=TnIRurmLcjzxq1qn

NCR but I wish there could be a truce so he could actually take over the NCR and use its resources to get to space faster.

no, i go legion

House is based
There is not a single tranimal in NV

technology sector

lol there is no "sector" of any kind, you have to form a functioning society first. this retard still thinks like it's the pre-war world, and is too autistic to understand anything outside of robots. his town is run by mobsters and cannibals.

search for planets unpolluted

the next most hospitable planet, Mars, is a thousand times less hospitable than Fallout earth. this guy cannot think outside his autistic tech projects. he has no realistic vision, and he's not a leader in any sense.

The TV show

Opinion discarded.

There is when (you) are playing.

[FAILURE] I'm sure it must have taken you all night to come up with that one. Get out of my face.

I tend to go Legion, they keep the roads safe

I just finished this game. Is 4 worth playing?

Growing up is realizing House is just like Elon Musk. Take that how you want.

as a silly sandbox looter shooter with some RPG elements, sure

If by go House you mean "go House to kill the old fart" then yes

eh...Get it on sale. I've heard S2 of the show is coming so there is that occasion
Far Harbor is a must.

Mod it into an Anon Babble game and then it is.

far harbor is stinky and lame, i don't know why people like it, landscape and atmosphere of the outside world is the only good thing

followers of atom

retarded

dima

the cause of all the problems on the island in the first place

far harbor

some meme settlement that should never have survived, survives because dima is retarded

dima also tries to gaslight literally anyone into believing they are a synth

i also hated his story with nick valentine, actually made me regret bringing him

House

I still don't get the weird mental masturbation over Joshua Graham. Is it due to VA? Or the fact that he Is the other interesting character In Honest Hearts (The other being a skeleton).
Or that he quotes bible so that makes him cool to brown or what?
Am I missing something?

choosing ooga boogas who splinter 5 seconds after the Caesar dies

no we can't have robotic bodies because..... it has no SOUL!

what the fuck?

He's right about everything.

Legion is the only answer here.

Are you trans?

dima

the cause of all the problems on the island in the first place

dima also tries to gaslight literally anyone into believing they are a synth

that's kind of the point Most of the Problems on island are due to Dimas fuck you I know better attitude you know this all knowing fucker on the top of the mountain.
Plus it's not like there is a much better option Maybe except going with Alan or just killing everyone and making the isand you little private safari

Some people like his VA... even though the VAs for Lanius, Ulysses, and House are better. Some people think he's an interesting character... even though it's only due to his time as Legate. Some people like that he's religious... even though he doesn't practice any rites at all.

What you're missing is that he's only as cool as everyone pretends he is because he has about 10 minutes of dialogue and only appears for about 15 minutes. Most people like the idea of Joshua Graham, and not the actual NPC. It's not unlike how most people hate the idea of Caesar, and not the actual NPC.

trans and not tranny

You can always spot them, join the 50% faggot.

Benny is objectively the funnier and smarter character imo

Considering the weird amount of AI videos I think it's just Zoomers projecting their daddy issues anf looking for digital daddy

I go Brotherhood of Steel with Hardin as the leader, AD VICTORIAM.

Was Ulysses just crazy or did your character do the shit he accuses you of? I though the courier was a blank slate.

Opinion discarded

I never cared what you porn-brained cynical niggers felt in the first place and neither do most people who aren’t insane.

Worth it. The only genuine criticism of the game is the story and most of the factions which are great in idea but poorly executed. Everything else is a massive improvement over the previous games in the series.

The best option is to force them to all get along with your superior(basic)logic of telling them none of them actually wanna kill each other, except that one follower of atom zealot, while also telling kasumi it doesn't fucking matter if she's a synth, her parents are at home, worried, GO HOME ASHES

I go into his chamber and drive an axe into him. Death to authoritarians.

Trannies are just Chuds who gave into porn.

House is a shit option. Just some rich cunt who did nothing good for the Mojave ever since the bombs fell, has established Vegas as a hub of degeneracy and given the reigns to a bunch of filthy tribals and even cannibals, and has all the poor die of thirst outside the walls. He has no real plan, he doesn't care for human life, and everyone he has hired has betrayed him or is planning to.

If your Courier is good, go NCR. If you're self-interested, go Yes-Man. House is the shittiest possible option, tied with the Legion.

guy was set on fire

thrown into Grand Canyon

didn’t scream on the way down

survived

crawled 415 miles back to his home

and then decided to start fighting the legion

You don’t see why people would think that’s cool?

It is not a Fallout game but it's fun.

I'm not judging you anon for your homo fantasies anon.

He's all withered away, expose to fucking air for 5 seconds is enough to kill him, and brains in jars are confirmed multiple times to degrade heavily over a century or so. House is doomed unless he can create sci-fi brain transferring to computer tech.

trusting Elon to rule New Vegas

fuck that, NCR all the way.

when you put it like that it sound like someones Tryhard donut steel OC

bro he says he survives because "the fire inside burned brighter" that's some protagonist level shit, might as well be a player character

no u

You’re the one that used the word that troons prefer.

I have no interest in abusing others

I just want you to go around wiping out factions that are completely neutral to me

Ancaps are the most retarded, cignitively dissonant form of subhuman to have ever drawn breath.

incel to tranny is a standard pipeline

What’s wrong with trying hard? God forbid someone puts some effort into making an interesting bad ass character and doesn’t make some generic retard with nothing going on.

The game never gives you the option to say he's crazy or that you've never been to the Divide. They chose to have the last DLC give you more of a backstory.

I was trying to be respectful. No need to get uppity. What if you like wearing a dress and cock? It's no-ones business but your own.

that's some protagonist level shit, might as well be a player character

By that you mean he was an obvious writers Pet on whm all energy was spared so the DLC is a boting slog with maybe half an hour worth of content...

Yes but only because Odo voices him

the tv show is a cynical hate letter to new vegas

How in the fuck would Brotherhood remain neutral vs House?

Your character is canonically a courier of the Mojave Express. The point of your character's ignorance of causing the Divide is because you are a blank slate and you are interchangeable with any other courier that would have delivered that package. Ulysses hyper-focuses on you because you're the one who delivered the package. If anyone else had delivered the package, then he would have harbored resentment against them instead. Remember, you aren't a chosen one: You were forced into being Courier 6 because Ulysses turned down the Platinum Chip job. You were unjustifiably put into a position you may have rather not been in with Benny and the Khans because of coincidences outside of your control and only Ulysses kept track of. You walked the same paths as almost any other long-distance courier in the same company, the Mojave Express. You find one of your coworkers killed outside of the Mojave Express depot in Primm who carried one of House's baubles.

You weren't someone special when you delivered the package to Hopeville. You weren't someone special when Benny double-tapped you. You weren't someone special when Doc Mitchell healed you. You became someone special by your choices after you woke up in Goodsprings, and that's one of the many things Ulysses (and most Lonesome Road detractors) doesn't understand. What you did before the start of New Vegas is meaningless. You creating the Divide--even though that was the Enclave's doing--is meaningless. It's everything afterwards that matters.

What's there not to hate about shit vegas?

What are some of the best recent mods to install on top of Viva New Vegas, by the way?

do you even know what "tryhard" means?

this retard still thinks like it's the pre-war world

It literally is thoughbeit. The Mojave is an undeveloped frontier, but both the NCR and Legion have pre-war living conditions in their heartlands. Vegas will ostensibly funnel specialists from the big powers to work for him after securing the dam. You can literally do anything with enough money.

Frontier. Better hurry they are already making a remake of that

yeah, there's always characters like that, might as well just say "cool" and move on
maybe i'm the midwit

has cool voice

says funny words that sound nice and poetic

"damn he just quoted the bible at me, in fallout, wow"

Didn't he cause the war because nuking the world was profitable?

It’s threat mitigation, the Khans are retarded raiders that supply the fiends, the Brotherhood are terrorists that intimidate people into giving them whatever shiny shit they have when they’re not sitting in their vaults, and the boomers just shoot massive amounts of ordinance at whoever goes near them. But to be fair he only says to destroy the Brotherhood outright which makes sense since he has a lot of advanced pre-war tech and their entire thing is taking that.

you would know if you weren't a toddslop secondary

Season 2 is having Bethesda spend millions of dollars to recreate the Mojave and is one giant pander to new vegas fans. The kings and Freeside are alive, House is a major character and it’s about rebuilding the NCR and New Vegas. This is from people who broke on to the set and pretended to be staff, by the way. You would know this if you used any platform that isn’t Anon Babble but blue.

No one but trannies themselves and faggots would be respectful to the mentally ill pedos that castrate themselves.

What if you like wearing a dress and cock

You’re trying so hard to project your disgusting fetish onto me when you’re the one that is trying to show “respect to it” go back to your shitcord faggot.

NV is toddslop. Sophomoric midwit sociopolitical commentary doesn't change the fact that you're jizzing yourself over Oblivion With Guns: Brown Edition.

Who would win in a fight Ulysses or Joshua

Your character did deliver the terrible package, but to you it was just mail like thousands of others. Ulysses is extremely traumatized due to his time in the legion, seeing his tribe's culture exterminate, committing war crimes constantly, then going to the divide where he thought things would go wrong and suddenly everything blew in his face. He's hurting, isolated and enraged and he can either blame nothing and attributes his woes to random chance, or paint you as a boogeyman and get strength through his hatred of you, he chose the latter. He knows you're not really responsible, but he doesn't care, he needs to do something to offset the guilt and not kill himself so he tries to fuck with you and in the end nuke what you like just to torture you.

I do, and I don’t consider it to be bad because I’m not some irony poisoned retard that sees having passion as something that’s lame. If you want to be a loser that labels everyone that cares about something as being bad thats your problem.

playing Troon Vegas

Cool, I'm still not watching because it's clear whomever is writing that tripe doesn't actually care about the setting. They just wanted to show interracial porn on television and mock the fans that made Fallout a million-dollar franchise.

Duude, like, just respect the NAP and like, let people do whatever they wish in the privacy of their property. Except if what they're doing is not obeying my authority like the boomers and kings

All ancaps are retards.

no you don't get it the insane amount of character assassination and everything in the game being made irrelevant was because they liked it!!!!

tell me you didn't play the game without telling me you didn't play the game

Sounds like you didn’t actually play it and you’re just regurgitating the same cope every bethesdrone does when they need to say why it’s bad.

Ancaps are the most retarded

True, but House is simply twisting the truth here. He doesn't torture people for absolutely no reason like the Legion does, but he is an autistic brainlet marvel-fan obsessed with muh sci-fi projects who has no qualms about eliminating anyone he thinks will lower his profit or pose a potential threat.

NV xisters, our response?

Sorry anon but I'm not into penises of any kind, shape or form. But like I said, if you like them that's totally fine! I'm not judging.

Looks like the janny is starting his tantrum again. Reminder this schizo spams this shit in any NV thread but he’s just some trannitor that has has shemales saved.
arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/707387658/

I'm not even entertaining such a juvenile response with a (You). Genuinely consider euthanasia.

yeah... always wins...

im not into penis

says he likes dresses and dicks

The cognitive dissonance is astounding.

Wtf is wrong with NV players???

I go with Yes Man

Can you explain how supplying a group of people that attack his business isn’t violating the NAP?

This thread is mostly bots and obsidian drones who huff their own farts constantly.

Nothing was retconned and no one was character assassinated. You get your opinions from retards who parrot other retards.

first time? NV has a strong emphasis on socialist and anti authoritarian beliefs. Plus two of the most fleshed out and lore friendly companions are gay. Its a breeding ground for left wing culture

Oh look you’re back to spamming shit and talking to yourself. And you’ll go like this for another few hours while you get the mods to ignore the thread.

Its trannies who love discussing the non existant lore never actually seen ingame.

Unlike you, I never said I like dresses nor dicks. Not everyone that likes NV is a mentally ill troon.

Trannies breathe air. Also they neck themselves.
What now anon?

It is pretty good gameplaywise and with mods it's even better.

replying to obvious bait

not just ignoring obvious bait

You're part of the problem.

You do though, you were projecting extremely hard and still are. Meanwhile I never said anything about it period. I know you need to constantly talk about your disgusting fetish and spam troon memes. But you’re not fooling anyone.

Tranny Game
/thread

This is the only correct reply.

Dilate all you want, Fallout 4 is still a Fallout game.

Can you give examples of vidya characters you do find cool and tickle your "he's literally me" instincts?

i hope it's bots, imagine being the autist who does this shit

yeah, it's not like they retconned the foundation of the franchise from international tensions boiling over into some scheme made by rich retards that believe they'll profit from their customer base being eradicated
oh wait they did that

What is it with trannies being drawn to NV like flies to shit?

Funny how it’s always bait after you get btfo.

im not into traps but that pip-girl is doing things to me...

Omega based

Precisely because "supplying" is defined by you as aggression. NAP doesn't work because any Karen can call anything you do an aggression and "self-defend" by nuking you because your garden produced too much pollen and she's allergic.

In an ancap model there is no authority to define what aggression is, so everything will immediately turn into ruthless warlords who make up bs casus bellis to steal your shit. House can just define you being too poor to live in his system as an aggression on his financial assets and "rightfully" exile or kill you, even though he's entirely responsible for creating that situation in which you were forced into poverty, like he already did by kicking out all the residents of Vegas into Freeside to then replace them with mobsters and cannibals. House is an hypocritical piece of shit, for all his verbosity, if you drag him out of his chamber and tell him you're doing it for NCR, he doesn't even have an argument, he just has a tantrum and calls you a whore.

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Stop (You) omg me you mentally ill faggot in a dress

This green tv nigga gave me a penthouse sweet, hell yea I ride for him

It’s not, the one you’re replying to is just trying to save face. He always does this when he gets btfo, see he tries to talk about shit he doesn’t know about to say why NV is bad and then when he fails he spams tranny shit to cope.

If you have to play it, you absolutely need the mod that returns the dialog boxes so you know what your character is actually going to say.

I could never decide which faction to pick so Currently everyone is just waiting for me to start the battle of hoover dam.

Kek

Fallout 4> Fallout 3 >>>>>>> New Vegas

tranny game

you have 100% breathed the air that was inside a tranny
so when are you going to kill yourself because that's the trend with you retards just willing to cede ground to trannies forever

Fallout 3 >>>>>>> New Vegas

How? It's literally the same game.

Except the fiends are a direct product of the Khans supplying them chems. But on you for showing you can’t argue why that’s not the case and having to give a false equivalence.

BASED

eh. Seeing stunted adults cry abaut ruining some franchise about Space Flying Bullshit and how it "ruined their child hood" or even better some retards who cried over transformers. An Animated Commercial To Sell Toys to kids.
All that Shit so many cared about ended not mattering at all That's kind of hillarious

Just did a House run. Incredibly boring ending. All I did was interact with a computer, flip a switch, bluff Lanius with my knowledge of Graham, and bluff Oliver with my science skill. I don't understand how anyone can appreciate a House/Yes Man ending when they're so incredibly boring.

The gunplay and melee is much more satisfying too in Fallout 4.

They just attach themselves to popular games and try to takeover. There is an old absolutely Kino RPG named Mardek, and there is a discord about "recreating and continuing the game". I'm not shitting you, those fucking faggots added a room into the church for the sole purpose of proudly displaying a tranny flag, and they boast about it on the discord. They're autistic mentally ill fetishists who spend 60% of their time gooning, 45% grooming kids and 5% writing suicide posts in vent channels.

House is probably dead now anyways and New Vegas is a ruin. Nothing mattered in the end.

Why are the boomers not entitled to their land and the right to defend it with heavy ordinance?

Certainly. Everything from followers, exploration, and combat is better in 4 compared to NV. The only thing that's worse is the main story and a voiced protag may not be your thing.

Yes Man

You shape the Mojave the way you see it fit.

they're autistic mentally ill fetishists who spend 60% of their time gooning, 45% grooming kids and 5% writing suicide posts in vent channels.

Wait until they are in their 40s

there are people on this board who have a dedicated tranny folder to spam new vegas threads with

the definition of rent free

Very true

The Mojave is an undeveloped frontier

It's so underdeveloped in fact that nearly every town that isn't a Legion dumpster has both electricity and water, and the main landmarks are:

a functioning hydroelectric dam

a functioning solar energy plant

a walled pre-war city visible for miles around

a rocket assembly structure with spaceworthy rockets still usable

Dinky the Dinosaur

a radiated but intact mountain with functioning long-range radio communication equipment

Commonwealth > Mojave Wasteland

What does that have to do with this though? You seem to be bringing up unrelated shit to attempt to make caring about what you do and having passion look bad without actually arguing why being passionate when making a character is bad. I know you have to have this sense of ironic detachment from everything because you’re afraid of failure and criticism but believe it or not living in an uncaring fugue state just makes you a coward.

rent free

tranny detected

The Mojave is so fucking bland in comparison

Except their land is Nellis, and they’re attacking everyone that travels the road near it. That’s like shooting at someone that drives by your house.

it quite literally is
you can hate trannies and then there's you who deliberately saves those freaks to your pc and take time out of your life to spam a thread

The House route is unironically just being a wagie

By that logic if a caravan sold food to the Fiends, that'd justify exterminating the caravan. See how none of your bullshit makes any sense, when any random asshole can interpret whatever they want as violating the NAP and no governmental structure exists to judge those cases, instead it always being a case of who can deploy the most violence on the spot?

And you don't need mental gymnastics to condemn the Khans, they're evil cartel members who train their own children to shoot at kids, and try to sell them in sexual slavery to strangers for a fix.

A hostile take over. Trannies have a behavior of latching onto specific things to make it a trans things.

NOOO I AM ENTITLED TO YOUR ROADS BECAUSE... I JUST AM, OKAY!?

Don't like the artillery take a different route.

House is deluded in his ideas
His entire plan depends on the NCR both remaining stable enough to provide him with the raw materials and educated workforce necessary for his space exploration plans, but at the same time remaining sufficiently internally divided it never recognizes the power it has over House
Not only that, but on top of this, the rates he demands of the NCR are absurd and him demanding them is idiotic because they're his only customer

House NEEDS someone to slap some sense into him because otherwise his plan is all but guaranteed to fail
If you as the courier aren't prepared to basically micromanage his autism you're better off not choosing the House path

tl;dr: Yes he was crazy.

Yeah I play New Vegas, how could you tell?

By that logic if a caravan sold food to the Fiends, that'd justify exterminating the caravan

Yeah, what’s wrong with that? They’re basically supplying people that do nothing but destroy and cause problems for other businesses in the area.

See how none of your bullshit makes any sense, when any random asshole can interpret whatever they want as violating the NAP

Except that’s not whatever it’s not some random guy giving them a bottle of water once it’s continuously supplying people that are a net negative on business , profits, and people as a whole which harms whoever is trying to make a living.

No, because I'm a weak coward who is a pushover and isn't cool, none of those people are "HE'S LITERALLY ME" except maybe fucking Nata from Monster Hunter:Wilds, but i don't find him cool

Every survivor from L4D series, except rochelle, she just gives me jungle fever and i like to spam her laugh when i'm forced to play as her, which is cool

Henri from Walking Dead Saints&Sinners, has barely 5 minutes of screentime but I love his voice and scenes

Wesker, for how cheesy he is, same with Chris for smuggling cantaloupes in his biceps

Raiden from MGR, same with a lot of the villians

i've seen exactly one scene from system shock and it was this guy going "nah" after shodans speech, god damn that was cool

Chuck from Dead Rising 2, as well as the black guy who was the villian that i forget the name of

Boatman from Dishonored for having the balls to flaregun when i've gone CHAOS CORVO who murdered everyone

Zeke from Infamous 1 and 2

Dimitri from Sly Cooper 2 and 3, wheelchair Bentley has a special place because i loved his kit

i have terrible memory so i can't think of anymore off the top of my head

Average NV cocksucker

The NCR is controlled by brahmin barons. House is just another baron, only instead of using brahmin, he uses vice. His goal is to control the NCR without being a part of it, meaning he's outside of legal penalties not specified in treaties.

ywnba barneyfag

Don’t want to get killed don’t shoot at people minding their own business.

Why the fuck would you sell food to the fiends unless you were already a fucking criminal yourseslf?

you wouldn't call these people TRAITORS for SUPPLYING THE ENEMY, would you?

actual retard

Is it pride month already?

Good stuff. Nick is also literally me.

encroaching on your land

minding their own business

Guys, New Vegas is a ruin and House is likely dead. This game does not matter anymore. Troons lost.

He does this because the mods let him, it’s amazing who they will let become a janny these days.

Honestly I was just feeding into that anons shitpost. I never really put the pieces together that nearly every settlement has electricity and running water lmao. I think the lack of vehicles really fucks with the perception of the world, at least for me. There is no reason why there wouldn't be working vehicles and vehicle caravans in the Mojave.

Yeah, what’s wrong with that?

KEK. "What's wrong with me nuking you, you saved someone's life 10 years ago and that person gave directions to a caravan who then sold food to someone who attacked me, you clearly are the aggressor and I am justified in killing you for breaking the NAP". All ancaps are mentally ill.

I already pointed out how they’re not fucking with Nellis, but I suppose you have no way of arguing what I said before so just have to circle back around.

What was the point of the Institute and what is the logic behind their plan?

Reminder that Anon Babble is basically unmodded, which is why so much CP has been posted on Anon Babble, which is why fireden is kill because too much CP got into the archives because Anon Babble mods don't actually do their jobs.

proofs??

Prove to me that Anon Babble is moderated when they allow Claude, AI, Pokemon, porn, coffee, tranny, and CP threads to go unmolested.

I replayed Fallout 3 for the first time since 2010 recently, and I went in with no expectations. I knew a lot of people hated it, but I remembered the game being pretty good when I was a teen.
Holy shit, it was so much worse than I expected. It's a shame, too, because there's so many things in that game that could've been great with some adjustments. As-is, the only part that was just genuinely good with no strings attached was Replicated Man.

no response to

i accept your concession
the show is low iq slop

Why can’t you argue and have to keep resorting to false equivalence? Is it because you know what I’m saying is reasonable but you ego won’t let you stop and admit you’re wrong?

saved someone's life 10 years ago and that person gave directions to a caravan who then sold food to someone who attacked me

The ironic part is I called out how this kind of thing wasn’t the case and you still decided to use it anyway since as I’ve said it’s all you can do.

Science.

ackshually house wants you to leave the kings alone and have them swear loyalty to him (which I remember clearly because it's fucking stupid since the kings are out attacking freesiders and NCR tourists, the latter of which being House's main source of income)

Oh no there are mods, people get banned for calling out shit like SBI or anything they don’t like, they just let shit slide unless it offends them personally.

That road is part of nellis and its defensive perimeter, or are you implying the boomers should allow hostiles to just encroach upon their structures until they can finally defend themselves? Or are you going to play coy and pretend you're taking a road that leads nowhere other than nellis because you're totally not trying to approach nellis?

that's the current status quo but it's not guaranteed this remains the status quo
Remember under Tandi the NCR was functionally an enlightened monarchy rather than a democracy, the NCR does not have too much inherent opposition to autocracy
And that's the scenario that can fuck up House: the NCR becoming increasingly more autocratic to the point they recognize a simple but absolute truth: the NCR can withstand a complete trade embargo longer than House can

based niner

and have them swear loyalty to him

I have no interest in legislating or otherwise dictating what people do

lol

game has prostitutes and fag companions, which means it attracts the fag playerbase, which means it attracts the fag modder community, which means you get girly outfit and leather BDSM mods, which creates a feedback loop that draws more and more fags into the game.

Yeah yesterday was insane. There was a Bridget thread and it was just gore and the occasional CP and the THREAD was still open for hours. The cherry on the top was jannies merely banning off topic pics kek

can you put on a trip please?
you clearly want that level of attention

What is the science behind making a synth that goes crazy and ruins a peace conference, and then instead of trying to make amends deciding to go full body snatcher protocols and completely eliminating any chance of peaceful negotiations between factions and completely ostracizing yourself from the surface?

Ive tried to play this several times, but it's just so BUTT UGLY and clunky
I mean it is an old game but even then was already ugly. It is agressively ugly, it's the lightning change from FO3 i think.

And it plays like shit too. And it crashes randomly like a good Shitesda game. But the story and elements look interesting. How do you stomach starting this game?

If by "some adjustments" you mean "complete revamp of any and all dialogue/quest writing" then yeah

He wants them to not make trouble for him and just continue to exist without interfering with the strip
which means that if you're the sort of Courier inclined to do so, you could absolutely make a deal with House where you become the de-facto ruler of the territory he gives no shits about

That road is part of nellis and its defensive perimeter

It’s not, it’s just a road that it apart of the highway but good job giving a post hoc cope after failing to defend this exact point earlier. People are just going about their everyday business and not fucking with them, and yet they still attack they think anyone who isn’t a boomer is a savage the courier included. If they’re going to act that way then they shouldn’t be surprised when it bites them in the ass.

It's the dumb surface dwellers, they don't understand that Science comes with its risks.

There is no false equivalence and you know it, derailing nigger. in an ancap society, if I'm stronger than you, all those reasonings I just gave are sufficient to kill you. Without a government and courts in place to mediate those things, anyone can make up casus bellis on the spot to kill anyone they want. That's why it's a failed, retarded system and why you defending it proves you are retarded.

Your entire argument relies on "I perceive doing X as a threat therefore I'm justified", anyone can do that about anything, that's what you ancap fags refuse to admit. It's how you can recognize a leftist, all leftists can only imagine a society where they're at the top, whether the commie dictator or a ruthless warlord, but never a citizen. It's why all lefties are totalitarians, because it's just them imagining themselves on a throne, while sane Aryans just imagine themselves as a common man, a civilian, a farmer, an artisan, we don't support a system because we imagine ourselves as God Emperor Caesar Manlius Maximus Fuhrer Overlord.

failed beware wrath of caesar

both ulysses and house think I'm legion aligned

15 years and I still find new bugs

just power through it, eventually the desire to keep playing will take over
maybe look up some stability mods

have unlimited resources

instead of just trading for the battery they kill the entire town

guh?

the road is part of the territory claimed by the Boomers, there's no reason they have to stick to the exact perimeter of Nellis
They've set up a defensive perimeter which is still part of their owned territory and inside which they give ample warning to not approach

Given the state of New Vegas, you would have to be a real idiot to believe him. He cannot stop crime in Freeside to allow for safe passage of customers to the strip. He cannot deal with the Fiends, who are raping all his citizens. The citizens of outer Vegas, who would probably share his ideals given that they are supposed to be libertarians, all hate him. All he has accomplished is managing a few casinos. Why does he even need your help at all after he gets his robot army if he wasn't incompetent?

The obvious best choice is the NCR. The Mojave is their frontier and their citizens still have the best quality of life in the area. Outside of the Mojave it's implied they have fairly advanced settlements given that they have an agricultural science division and a functioning congressional system. They are going to be corrupt as any modern government but that is probably better than being enslaved or eaten.

Yes Man's ending is silly because a mailman probably isn't a good governor and it is implied that Yes Man has the capacity to betray you.

Legion is fun to think about but even if you really believe that instating a military dictatorship is a good idea, it is going to have the same succession problems that all dictatorships have. I suppose it could end up like the real Roman Republic, where they defeat all their enemies before succession becomes a threat to their longevity but thats probably not likely when they cannot feasibly defeat the entire NCR.

How do you stomach starting this game?

Grab the mandatory bug fix mod, for starters. Most people get the mod that disables the shitty amber piss filter too. The game is quite pretty without it imo.

He wants them to not make trouble for him and just continue to exist without interfering with the strip

So just as they were doing before he decided the kings need to be destroyed anyway?
Why did house disrespect the wish of the inhabitants and decide to make trouble and not allow then to exist interference?

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There is no false equivalence and you know it

There is and I pointed it out, you’re just mad that your bullshit is being called out.

Your entire argument relies on "I perceive doing X as a threat therefore I'm justified", anyone can do that

That’s not what I’m doing that’s the strawman you’ve constructed to avoid arguing how I’m actually wrong or how they’re not a threat because you know you can’t.

Install wabbajack, any retard can install VNV. Get the RTSS software to limit your fps though, classic Bugthesda engine has the issue of physics being tied to fps.

it’s just a road

That provides access to where?

OH MY FAUCI TABITHA IS SO VALID!

There ARE working vehicles in the Mojave- ex-Army trucks at NCR depots with all six tires present and inflated (unlike the broken prop truck you normally see around), the locomotive and rail lines that are expressly only on hold because of the Deathclaws infesting the quarry (and the machinery in the quarry itself is still used as well), the various Vertibirds like Bear Force One, the surprisingly intact aircraft at McCarran, etc. They just don't move other than the Vegas monorail because Gamebryo and having a form of fast movement would make the world feel really, really small when it's all visible at once and not a segmented overworld like FO2 and the Highwayman.

Why not call them faggots in waiting or something that's actually offensive? Real question.

Yes Man's ending is silly because a mailman probably isn't a good governor and it is implied that Yes Man has the capacity to betray you.

Sawyer came out and confirmed that Yes Man's upgrades are to make him only obey you, there's no risk of him going all Skynet on you
As for "mailman probably isn't a good governor" that entirely depend on what kind of character you've been playing, if you're a 10 INT 10 CHA 100 diplomacy and barter diplomatic genius who's managed to gain the loyalty of every minor faction in the wasteland, you'll do pretty damn well as governor

Doubly so considering you're a virtually unkillable cyborg

that's a c*s woman chud

Again it’s not, you just keep attempting to move the goalpost after whatever you say is called out, first it was “defending their property” then when that failed “lol just take a different route” and then when that failed you just circled back around to the first point while saying how “ackshually the road is their property” despite not saying anything before that.

Legion is the best ending because Caesar is planning for you to be his successor. House will only keep you a lieutenant. Yes Man only allows you to control New Vegas while making enemies of both the NCR and the Legion, and you won't be able to prank both factions a second time. NCR ending you're just a decorated civilian and get literally nothing for your hard work except a medal.

Meanwhile Caesar/Lanius mints your face on their currency so everyone in the Legion knows who you are and also knows to step the fuck back whenever you show up because you're King Dick of Fuck Mountain.

Are you trying to say that because people use a road that can potentially lead to someone’s property that they should be shot? Because people aren’t making that turn, they’re going on the route to or away from Vegas and the Mojave. But the boomers shoot at them anyway. Again you can’t shoot someone for driving by your house.

I only do Yes Man so BoS can take over. Sawyer must have a hateboner for the BoS by not making a questline for them.

If I keep saying you didn't destroy my ancap fantasy, that will make it true

I accept your concession, you have not even begun to start trying to argue about the realities of government, courts, NAP being shit or ancap being retarded. You lost.

there's about 1 working vehicle in the NCR for every 200 citizens which given the population of the NCR is between 1.5 and 2 million at the time of NV, that'd give them 7500 to 10,000 working vehicles
Even if you assume 90% of those are civilian that still leaves the NCR with a very sizeable 1000 dedicated military vehicles, and in case of emergency the ability to requisition civilian vehicles for military purpose

NCR is an industrialized nation, and it's also why the idea of the Legion invading NCR territory is utterly absurd, there's just no way you can deal with a motorized army raiding your supply lines as a pre-industrial army

which means you get girly outfit and leather BDSM mods

a mailman probably isn't a good governor

No, but an immortal machine god with a computer brain that has the blessings of every faction in the mojave and advanced tech from space research stations is certainly a better pick than the shrink-wrapped retard.

Josh Soiyer made me realize I was a woman trapped in a man's body this entire time!

bluff Oliver with my science skill

you didn't beat the hoover dam battle

chuds and trannies are the exact smae demographics (autistic white males)

the brotherhood of steel is litterally just 1 lonely outpost surrounded by utterly hostile factions and creatures

there like 12 people

6 of them are just librarians

Why didn't this Faction take over the entire world and kill everyone with mind lasers and poisoned hentai??

can’t argue

gets btfo

has to tell himself he won to cope

Funny how whenever how fags like you say they won in these situations they’re always grinding their teeth and seething. But whatever you need to cope i suppose i already proved my point.

road that can potentially lead to someone’s property

What locations does the road that the boomers shell provide access to? List the locations.

you're just a decorated civilian and get literally nothing for your hard work except a medal.

You're a complete retard if you think that's what the Courier is
Remember, Nevada is going to be a state, and Nevada will need a Governor and guess who is the most famous person in Nevada with support of every local faction?
You'd have to be some kind of 1 INT moron to not get elected here

If you play your cards right you have a damn good chance of NCR presidency in about 10 to 15 years

You'll get buttfucked by NCR and civil wars very soon even if you become the leader though, the Legion is utterly fucked and retarded the moment they aren't going against unwashed tribals. The NCR can temporarily lose the Mojave, but they'll destroy the Legion eventually easily. The only reason the NCR can't do it right now is because sending too many soldiers to foreign lands is unpopular and it's a democracy, but if the Legion wanted to attack NCR territory then it would be supported by the masses to defend with tons of soldiers. And if the Legion doesn't attack the NCR, it will eat itself since they're all psychotic rapey warriors.

What's to prevent you from abusing your power?

"I am immune to corruption"

Imagine supporting this clown

mad max is gay as hell bruv, it's literally the story about the last straight man on the run from the leather jockstrap horde

you have not even begun to start trying to argue about the realities of government, courts, NAP being shit or ancap being retarded. You lost.

He said he was against prostitution so I went independent, and have every time since.

The road that leads to east? So anyone coming from or going east gets attacked. Again you’re trying to say that people traveling on a main road that can lead somewhere justifies them being attacked.

Because for some reason they had to make them this "declining bigotted xenophobic" faction who was going to fall no matter what. The only sensible way to complete this game is to install BoS mods and make them take over Helios One.

That's pretty much exactly what I mean.
Conceptually, most of the ideas the game has are perfect for Fallout. The setting being DC, the main villain being an AI who pays lip service to classical Americana like apple pie and baseball whilst not understanding anything about actual American values, etc.
Really, the only parts of the game that get an immediate no from me are the BoS and Liam Neeson. Pretty much everything the BoS does could've been achieved by having a faction that split from the Enclave, and the idea of an RPG where your dad is the actual main character was fucking asinine.
Oh, and Mothership Zeta. Operation Anchorage was just really boring, but MZ was offensively bad. The other DLCs are just sort of whatever, though The Pitt has it's moments.

This board is going to fucking unusable for at least a week when season 2 of the show comes out and officially makes it canon that the Mojave was destroyed

Yes Man literally says:

Ill be going offline for upgrades to my personality matrix that will allow me to be more assertive.

Which is obviously supposed to foreshadow that he might betray you. If he is more assertive he isn't going to obey your every command anymore.

Josh Sawyer isn't the lead writer for New Vegas so what he says doesn't really matter. He didn't write that line and didn't write the character.

twenty odd hours spent in my kitchen sink NV save file

play lonesome road and realize I forgot to add the mod for proper ulysses faction affiliation

add it post-hoc and reload the save before I entered the divide

door now takes me 300 feet underground out of bounds

remember to prep every part of your modded playthroughs lads

can’t deny what I said

just repeats himself in desperation

It’s always the same kind of tantrum.

House is awesome because he is caught between two massive State-building projects that are ultimately competing in Nevada for supremacy and to decide who will inherit the world. The NCR, a modern and omnipotent bureaucracy attached to the class interests of it's most economically affluent citizens, Reaching out to expend it's dominion and access to ressources by fielding a modern army of conscript supervised by a corp of professional State-employed officers. Basically the model that saw the real US become a global hegemon in the twentieth century. The Legion, the military autocracy centered around the will of a charismatic military commander enforcing a brutal and harsh justice across its entire territory. A war economy where the fortune of the legion and the enslavement of convicts and defeated enemies fuel an ever-expending war machine. Again, a known winning strategy in real history if you're to be called an empire and your name as ruler remembered even if it is in infamy.
And caught between these two. an even more sickly Howard Hughes dreams of managing his city state like a merchant prince who would use his fortune to fund NASA instead of the painters and sculpter of renaissance era Florence without wandering for a second what happened to those wealthy and advanced merchant republic when the actual wielders of power around them took notice of them.

You can tell him not to do that.

It's not entirely false that he won't take direct bribes, but it's still a misleading argument since he remains a turbo-capitalist autist with no regards for human life nor desire to improve living conditions for anyone. As long as he has his money and toys, he legitimately wouldn't give a shit if the entire planet starved to death.

Ancap still hasn't began to try to create any counter-argument as to why his system isn't retarded, copes by making up shit. NAP fags keep losing. "My system is perfect but I won't ever describe it"

The Road ends at Nellis airforce base.

You could only go there or through an irradiated hellscape desert (to die). There are no known settlements east of Nellis. You're basically going there to die or go to Nellis if you take that road.

Glad to help. You're welcome.

Lorelet crying again

Ill be going offline for upgrades to my personality matrix that will allow me to be more assertive.

You're retarded if you ever thought of that line as anything other than "Hey, remember how you convinced me to completely fuck over Benny? Here's assurance that someone else won't just do that to you."

isn't this literally just because the courier walked in and he spilled the entire plan with 0 hesitation? that's all it's fixing, i don't see why Yes Man would betray his best physical asset

Except it doesn’t, it passes by it. I know you’ve been desperately trying to set this up as if it’s a gotcha but you failed to take into account that traders pass by that area regularly on the road. So it’s more than just the way to Nellis.

it literally just means he's going to configure himself to be loyal to you only

Ulysses fundamentally misunderstands House. And a lot of things, really.

muh tunnelers

So you are saying that in the Fallout universe, where robots are notoriously sane and reasonable, an artificial intelligence with unlimited power would never ever betray you, even when explicitly given the capacity to do so?

If that is actually what is intended then that is poor writing and they should be ashamed.

This. The issue with the Yes-Man ending is always that you're John Doe illegitimately establishing yourself as a dictator for life with 0 governmental structure or even experience of governance. The Mojave erupts into chaos immediately and everything is fucked because you can't handle everything or coordinate anything like a government can, Oliver is right when he berates you in that ending.

max himself just goes for the leather daddy biker look instead of the hard gay bondage look

The road that leads to east?

What road to the east? Are you pretending to be retarded?

I wish the troon propaganda was more accurate like this. People wouldn't be so against representation if they were portrayed accurately as mentally unwell clowns. For example, I liked Hunter in the venture bros. He was funny and had a beard.

Ancap still hasn't began to try to create any counter-argument as to why his system isn't retarded

I gave one and you ignored it so you could keep using logical fallacies. And now you’re crying that I’m pointing out your tantrum. Also you still haven’t denied what I said here so it’s clear that you know you’re wrong yet again.

I think it's funny when people who don't understand Lonesome Road think that Ulysses is supposed to be a wise magical negro when the reality is he's a dumb fucking tribal who happens to be black. Who's more stupid, Ulysses, or the people who think Ulysses is supposed to be intelligent?

The entire game falls apart as soon as you get to new vegas and it's blatantly unfinished, dunno why people even bother arguing about their headcanons over and over in these threads.

im glad they gave a fat paycheck to liam neeson for him to read off some lines in his monotone voice
at least it's not as bad as oblivion. 3 celebrity voice actors for 3 characters and literally every other npc is voiced by 7 people doing the exact same voice

you're retarded if you think an AI won't monkey paw his poorly established programming into something more fucked

Brother this shit happens daily in the real world, let alone the fictional world of fallout

The government that's incapable of doing anything until said player character shows up and does all the work?

It only turns into chaos if you haven't spend the entire game gaining the loyalty of every faction
If you've done that you're now the compromise ruler every faction can agree with

Yes ignoring the vast expanse of land as if it’s not there, is there a giant canyon that is between that road and the Arizona border? Nope just some desert which caravans go through all the time.

no, i usually go yes man because you have to destroy the brotherhood of steel for house

Zeta had a cool setup with the people across different generations audiologging their thoughts but the actual gameplay part is just corridor after corridor that could have been 10x shorter.

I gave one and you ignored it so you could keep using logical fallacies

The only thing you said was "NUH UH I AM JUSTIFIED IN KILLING THEM IMO". That's not an argument as to why NAP makes any sense, that's a casus belli you made up to justify your desires.

YOU ARE HAVING A TANTRUM YOU ARE HAVING A TANTRUM

The left can't meme. Every time you get btfo you pretend the other is either too emotional or mentally ill, it's the typical soviet jewish tactic.

Its alright if you shared an opinion and haven't played the game or just don't remember.
Hey look a map showing you what I wrote.

dont look at this guys internet history

Yes, I think the Yes Man ending is a horribly written cop-out, how did you guess?

It's not about what you would expect from the situation, but what the writers want you to expect from the situation. It's pretty damn obvious that they weren't going for some dumb betrayal ending with that line.

So you're moving goalposts from "roads" to "desert sands" now? "I am totally taking a road that leads nowhere else other than your territory so I could totally wade through endless sand because that is more convenient than roadways littered with logistic outposts". Yeah right.

maybe in John Sawyer's retard brain, but the actual writers definitely didn't intend for him to be a cop out.

Courier: How long have you known Daniel?

Waking Cloud: Six years. He attended the birth of my third child. {Fond reminiscence}It was a hard birth. The River nearly carried my water to the Father, and my child's with it.

It’s amazing how desperate trannies are to label everything as a tranny yet all they can do is show they’ve never played the game they claim is theirs.

It's capable, it just can't take the risk of Caesar fucking them in the back when they're doing their work, so they have to remain on standby until Hoover Dam. If the Legion wasn't there, the NCR would have none of those inefficiency issues.

It turns into chaos regardless, you are just one man with no experience nor structure, you can't watch things everywhere, everything falls into chaos the moment it's announced that both major factions are for the time being out and a rando took over after killing House.

this thread demonstrates why we need thread IDs
the tranny folder dumper is embarrassing

It's not about what you would expect from the situation, but what the writers want you to expect from the situation

Oh good, so you're just looking for a god surrogate to tell you that pattern recognition is wrong.

Yes Man is just some random unfinished shit they added as a contingency so you still get the same plot beats even if you end up killing House early, dunno why people even pretend like it's some kind of fleshed out "choice".

yawn, NCR is full of corrupt/down trodden leaders that are at best, disenfranchised with the idea of NCR, every single time you see any NCR citizen trying to do right, he's immediately blocked by his leaders/commander/boss

The mods won't do that because it would hinder their shills.

your structure is the existing structures of the factions who's loyalty you have
also "no experience" bitch you've been unifying factions all game, no experience my arse
You're also not "some rando", you're the Courier, you're on first name basis with every notable person in the Mojave, you're the legendary general who defeated the Legion and the NCR on the same day, you've got an army of robots backing you up

You're not a god damn nobody at the end of the game

Easy question: where are they going?

If you want to just tap out and admit you lost just write "east"

Imagine being this desperate. Alright let’s go one by one here

Its alright if you shared an opinion and haven't played the game or just don't remember.

Like clock work pulling this out after failing to argue.

So you're moving goalposts from "roads" to "desert sands" now

I said it led east and it does, but here you are trying to nit pick after your attempt at a gotcha failed because you couldn’t comprehend that people could travel beyond the roads or that a road “leading” somewhere means that it goes all the way there. I mean I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt that you would be smart enough to conceptualize that but it seems I was giving you too much credit.

I am totally taking a road that leads nowhere else other than your territory so I could totally wade through endless sand

It’s not endless, once you get to Arizona there are more roads, not to mention caravans travel like that all the time.

So you are saying that in the Fallout universe, where robots are notoriously sane and reasonable

they are though, especially RobCo™ robots, the #1 supplier of bipedal assistants both private and military. fallout robots only turn murderous and/or retarded when you bring disgusting human wetware into the mix, like those affront-to-humanity Robobrains

Hey bro, the more (you) feel (you) need to repeat a claim, the more obvious it becomes that it isn’t true.

Devily May Cry 5.

It’s “write your own ending and enforce it with an army of robots.”

All my stock is General Atomics, RobCo sucks

whats 2+2 and if you say 4 you’re admitting you lost

It’s amazing how people will just go full toddler tantrum when they can’t argue.

the yes man ending is doomed to failure by I am an incompetent retard

That's unfortunate for you. Luckily MY courier is a hyper competent genius with a huge cock, and everything will go exactly how I wish it to.

i was just pretending to be retarded haha

Don't let it happen again.

Don't you see, anon? If you go east, you don't go west.

Funny how you can’t actually argue what I said and now you have to just make shit up. Like this strawman is just a straight up fabrication not even misconstruing anything. Next time maybe think beyond the small scope of the area and learn how caravans work.

nah dude I need to take a road that leads to your home and your home only so I can then take a route with absolutely no infrastructure instead of taking one of the many dedicated, convenient routes heading the same way because uhhh, I gotta get to da eest

This is some heavy copium.

managing his city state like a merchant prince who would use his fortune to fund NASA instead of the painters and sculpter of renaissance era Florence without wandering for a second what happened to those wealthy and advanced merchant republic when the actual wielders of power around them took notice of them

You're right about House but not about the princes. Italian renaissance art was the result of local genius rather than extensive patronage (every ruler in Europe pushed the arts for prestige back then).
The merchant princes damn near bankrupted themselves trying to compete militarily with the big kingdoms, but at some point size became too much of an advantage and they couldn't keep up.

Yeah, what if they’re traveling north east? I mean Jed Masterson and the Happy trails caravan were taking a route with little to no infrastructure since it led to new Cannan, believe it or not NV is a frontier area so it’s not going to have places that are as built up compared to areas in the west. But again looks like I’ve been giving you too much credit.

Emil is a hack who cared more about his stupid Jesus allegory than capitalizing on the wasted potential of the setting. His seething is palpable when you send one of your mutant companions into the control room in the BS revised ending and the narration bitches at you for not being a REAL HERO.

the factions who's loyalty you have

Those factions you have never told you were going to become the Supreme Leader with your personal army, and being liked and having a government is not the same thing.

also "no experience" bitch you've been unifying factions all game, no experience my arse

You have experience in killing raiders and diplomacy, you don't have experience in managing a region, distributing water, electricity and food, handling the various complaint and issues that arise everywhere or a reliable way to even receive them in the first place.

You're also not "some rando", you're the Courier, you're on first name basis with every notable person in the Mojave

Not to the common civilian, the common guy never heard of you, the NCR soldiers can if you're idolized but you betrayed them and kicked them out so you're on your own.

You are fucked in the Yes-Man ending because you have no structure of governance, are just a guy who's either unknown or hated for being a usurper traitor, and you went behind absolutely everyone's back to do that with no experience of governance. It's only an ending for those who like to watch the world burn or those who are narcissistic enough to believe they can be Mr House but actually good and competent for the entire Mojave. It's no more sensical than the "uhr duhr I'll kill Ulfric and reign as god emperor" skyrim fags.

You will regret that investment.

bro i literally got big mt tech i can basicaly do whatever the fuck i want to and im going to do whatever the fuck i want to because i have a fuckhuge robot army and future tech and im bascialyy immortal

Unarmed>all

yes man is explicitly an anarchy ending where you drive the major powers out of the mojave and leave the smaller factions to their own devices while (You) lord over the strip.

but my fanfics

doesn't matter.

House is a retard that can't solve the backdoor in his OS that lets you keymash into any robco terminal, not even set his personal "this kills me" terminal to [requires password]. In 200 years he has maintained "order" over 3 casinos.
It's not anymore realistic for him to be able manage everything better than you seizing control of his systems.

unarmed blows melee out of the water unironically

I really don't understand retards like you.

Do you only play one game? What, you only play Fallout 4? You never want to replay 1, or 2, or 3 or New Vegas or anything else?
Beyond that, you want to console war those games against each other, create this false sense of competition that only exists in your head to deprive yourself of something to do, so you can get mad about it?

she replied to obvious bait

LMAO

you think all the options are bad? Well here’s a robot army!

noooo all that can be is anarchy noooooo

the common guy never heard of you

The Kings literally come up to you in the streets and give you free shit
People of Goodsprings know you as the one who personally led the defense of the town, for Novac everyone's familiar with the person who solved BOTH their biggest problems, you're responsible for a ton of charity works in all parts of New Vegas

Literally all you have to do is to just ask every organization you've helped to tell their people and the commoners what you've done

You also LITERALLY have experience in distributing water, electricity and food, those are LITERALLY QUESTS

And who says you become a supreme leader, there's grades of control between absolute monarchy and anarchism

Seriously, the fact you can't see a way for the Courier to become seen as a benevolent ruler by the population of the Mojave shows just how little imagination you have
All you need to do is slap your personal name and face on everything you do and the people already know about you

Most games have an autistic spammer who will flood out every thread about that game. It’s just a fact of end stage Anon Babble

The Courier, with the aid of Yes Man, drove both the Legion and the NCR from Hoover Dam, securing New Vegas' independence from both factions. With Mr. House out of the picture, the remaining Securitrons on The Strip were hard-pressed to keep order. Anarchy ruled the streets. When the fires died, New Vegas remained, assuming its position as an independent power in the Mojave.

Supporting the ideals of independence, the Courier was recognized as the man/woman responsible for a truly free New Vegas. He/she ensured Mr. House's tyranny was broken and neither Caesar's Legion nor NCR would ever gain control over New Vegas.

it's all anarchy, yes

i said explicitly because that's what it's described as in the ending slides. even the quest name and icon go with anarchy.

the remaining Securitrons on The Strip were hard-pressed to keep order

So they kept order

anarchy ruled the streets

Obvious after a regime change

when the fires died

Anarchy ended

New Vegas remained, assuming its position as an independent power in the Mojave.

And then new Vegas became a strong independent faction

I was being glib about the renaissance artist I know it wasn't them that caused the italian wars or the decline of italian city-states. But it's really fascinating to see those relatively small polities with all of their money and advanced commercial and financial institutions being unable to unify and slowly turn into turkey legs in the eyes of Valois kings and Habsburg emperors until Italy becomes a franco-german war zone and never fully recovers from it. Because while Machiavel is bitching that italian princes should probably stop hiring mercenaries all the time even though they can't bother to raise actual armies and they have all these coins to pay for it the massive and populous estates in the HRE and France are being levied by these ascendant States like they're fucking Isengard. and in this tripartite conflict the one side that House is emulating is the one that not only lost but was then passed around between the two others until it was rinsed leaving the fucking Dutch and Brits to hold the bag of mercantile development and birthing capitalism.

you're illiterate

Hey, Chief, I wouldn't go that way. It's full of barmy berks obsessed with chemically induced polymorph. I'd rather trudge through the Alley of Dangerous Angles again than hang out with these pikin' spire gods.

The realistic part is that House is recognized as a figure of authority, he's hated sure, but no one denies he's Vegas' boss. But rando Courier taking over House's entire arsenal is, as the game says, a wild card. Most people don't have a clue what the fuck you're going to do, this is a huge happening and people are going to freak out and raiders will use the chaos to commit atrocities you can't even fathom.

argue with someone retarded while they just retreat from each point

Why did you bring up the road if you just meant the cardinal direction "east"

Whats east?

and raiders will use the chaos to commit atrocities you can't even fathom.

Them and what robot army?

Fanfic

The game literally makes it clear that if you put effort into it, independent NV is not a bad place, and you're seen as the rightful ruler

follow are worse than NV, but I put that more down on 4 sub-par diologe trees and poor placement

again, you're not a rando, you spend the entire game building both personal relationships with all the powerful figures in the Mojave as well as presenting yourself as a beloved figure to the local population
Common people give zero shits about who you were before, what they do care about is that you've cleaned out the raiders, stopped the violence and your name is on all the free water pipes, food delivery crates and the medical assistance provided

avoid the route guarded by the legion and NCR

to go to.... and undisclosed location

there are no major hubs east of Nellis

its litterally just desert for hundreds of miles, even before the bombs

they went to die in the desert. For no reason. With no protection. To get to.. uh...

Transformers get it. Not surprised you don't chudly.

Boot up the game you fucking retard. Literally the road goes straight through their base. Even if they didn't shell it with artillery, you'd need to trespass to "GET 2 DA NORF-EEST". What's to the NORF-EEST, by the way?

make a diplomat character

max int and max cha

"um actually it's ancap-sovietmarxo-lenninisttorstskyism"

No it's not. Its whatever your character is.

They don't need to fight your army, they'll just kill locals. The Mojave isn't just Vegas, you are jut one person, you cannot keep tabs on everything that's happening. One person alone cannot rule the Mojave, that's a simple fact, it's why everything falls into anarchy, because you can't look everywhere at once. And when you'll die, things will go to shit even more.

You only got yourself really liked by a handful of people, you think the Kings would be happy to have you as their Supreme Leader forever to rule over them? You made friends, you never told anyone you were going to take over, your ties are fucked the moment you do that. Just because you made friends with 10 people IRL, it doesn't mean they'll remain friends if you suddenly fuck the daughter of each of them. You betrayed everyone, with best intentions perhaps, but you betrayed them and gave yourself unchecked almost unlimited power. That's not going to fly.

And once again, you cannot plan or handle infrastructure, you are one person, every commie shithole in history has proven that having one dude try to handle every infrastructure plan always produces horrible results. You have no one to delegate to, you're alone and your governing abilities are feeble.

Though the Wasteland became anarchic after Hoover Dam, the Boomers' display of power dissuaded fortune seekers from attempting to penetrate Nellis.

The Fiends overran Camp McCarran during the Second Battle of Hoover Dam. In the anarchic months that followed, the Fiends asserted dominance over Outer Vegas.

After the Courier ensured New Vegas remain free, the Followers found that Independent New Vegas was even more unstable and violent than before. Old Mormon Fort became excessively burdened by the influx of patients, struggling to provide even the most basic of services.

it's all anarchy, yes

but anon, the person who managed to successfully convince Lanius to stand down and retreat then afterwards successfully convinced Oliver to stand down and retreat couldn't possibly handle politics of any kind among a population that idolizes him, they have no experience what so ever

The Courier, with the aid of Yes Man, drove both the Legion and the NCR from Hoover Dam, securing New Vegas' independence from both factions. With Mr. House out of the picture, part of the Securitron army was diverted to The Strip to keep order. Any chaos on the streets was ended, quickly. Chaos became uncertainty, then acceptance, with minimal loss of life. New Vegas assumed its position as an independent power in the Mojave.

Dumbfuck.

Being a diplomat is the same as ruling an entire region by yourself

Ngmi

The Fiends overran Camp McCarran during the Second Battle of Hoover Dam. In the anarchic months that followed, the Fiends asserted dominance over Outer Vegas.

This only happens if you don't wipe out the fiends leaders by the way

Oh so NOW "if you west then you can't east" is good?? You dishonest cunt!

House or Legion depending on my mood.
Best options

lost the east

retreats north east

To where? What's north east of Nellis?

being a diplomat between various factions is the core of leadership
you don't have to be seen as the god king of new vegas, you can be a successful leader by being seen as the only acceptable compromise ruler with a popular mandate

It's how human societies have operated for literally millennia

Legion > House > POWER GAP > NCR > POWER GAP > Independent

Facts don't care about your feelings.

Unlike your genitals you can't just ignore it and assume it's wrong. It's written multiple times in bold letters across the screen

SECURITRON ARMY

Independent is better than NCR. NCR is just flat out worse for the region in the long run.

In the anarchic months that followed

This suggests the period of anarchy ends and the securitrons eventually deal with the fiends, just like in the House ending.

One person alone cannot rule the Mojave, that's a simple fact, it's why everything falls into anarchy, because you can't look everywhere at once

Weird how house was able to keep an eye on you and everything happening around you with just one securitron. But surely, with an army of them, upgraded, that is impossible. And, of course, the courier cannot delegate and/or cooperate with other factions. Because you said so.

If we're talking about NAP the Brotherhood literally shot every securitron he sent to go talk to them. House wasnt like "I heard those paladin guys hate technology, go murder them" he isn't Caesar. Lmfao

Severe lack of reading comprehension right there given I pointed out what East was and why they would go that way, but it’s obvious this is just a cope to avoid acknowledging what I said about caravans going that way.

Why did you bring up the road if you just meant the cardinal direction "east"

Because the road leads east which is what I said, are saying it doesn’t lead that way now? Are you going to act like people aren’t going in that direction when I game an example of it in my last post?

House seems the best option. If nothing else, I can't be assed to be in charge of shit. Let House do what he'll do, maybe he'll succeed and maybe not, but in the meantime I can live it up in as much luxury as the wasteland can reasonably offer.

Hope that image isn't your argument in favor of him.

say something

that means he'll totally do it!!1

the Brotherhood literally shot every securitron he sent to go talk to them

So they don't want to talk. What, you're now entitled to other people's labour and attention just because you desire it? You're going to force people into talking to you? Being your friend? Wow, sounds very "no interest in legislating or dictating".

And you literally get people to go to war on your behalf
and you're not 1 man, you can delegate, you can pick among the loyal followers you have to perform various duties
what makes you think you HAVE to be the 1 man who's in charge of everything doing everything yourself?
You have people to delegate to, it's all the people who you spent the entire game getting on your side

For the Kings for example: as long as The King supports your rule over NV as legitimate you keep the loyalty of the Kings, and yes that means negotiations, concession, you know, the basics of ruling
But considering how little shits House gave about Freeside, and how you can demonstratively care far more about it, The King is absolutely going to be easy to keep in your good graces if you worked for it

You do the same with all the other organizations and factions, and they become the people you delegate to

They don't need to fight your army

They literally do if they want to kill people they’re protecting.

No because he would let trannies exist

Brotherhood are grugbrained fuckheads.
House is 100% right about them. Only nostalgia or being a solely Bethesdafag would make one think otherwise.

Of course, fuck them brotherhood niggers YEEHAW BLOW EM TO HELL.

Lmao

Whats east of Nellis?

The Brotherhood dont exist in a hole and never leave, they fought a war over a power plant and send out scouts (patrols too if you go with Hardin.) I'm sorry you played FO3 and think they are lawful good Followers with power armor, they aren't, they will absolutely become terrorists in the area and try to fuck up the Strip.

Why do you have to keep replying and pretending to be other people? You said this exact same shit about retreating. And what is north east all of a sudden not eastward? You’re desperate for anything and are just latching onto whatever you can to get by.

What's north east of Nellis

So you didn’t play the game or even read what I said in my last reply? Or are you just playing dumb so you can keep avoiding having to address what I said since it shows how you’re wrong?

Because the road leads east

Road leads directly into the Nellis base, actually. If you go off the road you run into cliffs and Nellis perimeter fence. So no, the road does not lead "east" in any sense.

entire paragraph of trans schizophrenia

completely disarmed by "what's east of it"

You hate to see it.

House's argument is they wouldn't sit idly by as his power grew or if he tried to expand, and he's right.

as his power grew

tried to expand

In other words impose his will on others. So much for hands off, respecting the NAP, huh.

Whats east of Nellis?

I read all of your posts. You still haven't told us what's east of Nellis.

2 more weeks to Mars colonization
keep pumping $PLAT frens

Nothing.

There's nothing east of Nellis.

what's east whats east!

Are you happy? There's nothing east of Nellis. Now tell me why would caravans get sho a-

Fuck you.

House keeping an eye on one mailman is the same as keeping tabs on the entire Mojave

Ngmi

The courier can't delegate because you backstabbed everyone to achieve this power, no one was ever in on it.

muh tranny if you're not an anarshit

Ngmi

You can't be a successful leader without a power structure, and an army of robots isn't what's needed to rule people and adapt to their needs.

Your army isn't everywhere at once, no community would like having your spybots around 24/7, and even House had issues with sending fighting signals far away.

All in all, the YM ending is that of anarchists and immature delusional fags who think they could genuinely rule an entire region well if they just had soldiers, even though everyone considers them a backstabbing despot.

He's not a dumbfuck libertarian. He believes in the ideals, but like anybody serious, recognizes they are utopian policies that require specific and intelligent populations.
Thus he uses the term autocrat.

you backstabbed everyone to achieve this power

Is that why I'm idolised by every faction?

Would you have felt better if the quest instead had House ask you to mount a giant microwave gun onto the top of Black Mountain so that when the Brotherhood inevitably attack you can flip a switch and make their bunker into a 500 degree oven?

Never mind the fact that there's a non-zero chance the NCR realize they'll lose the Dam and recruit the BOS. You probably don't even know what "NAP" stands for and just meme the letters, otherwise you'd understand the Brotherhood violated it by destroying House's robots instead of sending Veronica outside and just telling it they don't want to deal with House or the Strip. Your argument would be better suited to criticizing his demands you deal with the Boomers, which are more actually in-line with your complaints, but you're some kind of childlike retard.

mass reply

you can only use the robot army as a robot army and not a peacekeeping force because people would be upset that robots were defending them from being robbed/raped/murdered

Anon…

see
Specifically the second part of the image.

normal people making a mod add their own injokes :O

tranny people making a mod add their own injokes >:0

And?

No, you're idolized by every faction because you're their buttslut that did favors for them. You're a little bitch dude. You think you have power because people like you because you cleaned their balls with your tongue. You're a clown. No one is taking you seriously because you aren't serious.

it's a very trash game imo
but I like the soundtrack, nothing like blowing up synths while listening to IT'S A MAAAAAN

You can't be a successful leader without a power structure

You largely usurp the existing power structure provided by House, and in addition to that gain the allegiance of various factions House did not manage
You're not going to be an autocrat any time soon over those factions, but you don't need to be, you start as the central organizing figure between the various factions of the Mojave, ruler over NV (you have House's system, the loyalty of the 3 families and the securitron army) and provider of stability and security through said army

And then you slowly build up your legitimacy through competence
And yes, the courier absolutely can be incredibly competent, if you have the right stats and skills

Not reading any of that. Lolbertarians delusional as always.

House couldn't even make the strip not shit in all the time he was there. He couldn't even stop one well armed courier from killing him.

otherwise you'd understand the Brotherhood violated it by destroying House's robots

House's robots were trespassing. House did not get permission prior to entering BoC property.

Again, he's not a dumbfuck libertarian.
He's talking about civilians; he's not going to ignore a threat at the door, any serious libertarian would shoot a hostile person at the door in the face.

because people like you because

lol
literally seething

trespassing into a valley that isnt known to be occupied

The NAP does not suggest you to hide in a random tree in the woods and shoot passing hikers because "they trespassed."

You can't be a successful leader without a power structure

Does a robot army count as a power structure?

This. I didn't play FO3 with its apparently shitty story and whitewashing of the BoS, and in FNV they are just pointless. They're technocultists retards with no plans or future who just raid anyone who has technology to keep it in their goon cave bunker... and that's it. Caesar is right about them, they have no vision and are a plainly stupid group.

There are endings where the BoS retakes Helios One and mugs everyone who passes by with technology.

You're idolized BEFORE you do the backstabbing, that's how treason work retard.

Noooo how dare you destroy 5 shills responding, you're supposed to not respond so we can say you're ignoring us and so you lost!

Shills are so retarded it's not even funny. Anyway I'm going to stop replying to the shills and only the posts that interest me, you're all fags baiting with low quality jewish shit.

Three replies all a minute apart
Do you ever think that if you’re struggling this hard to argue as one person that pretending to be three won’t work out either?

Whats east of Nellis

I already said it in other posts but it seems you now have to pretend you don’t care to cope with being wrong.

Road leads directly into the Nellis base, actually

And also east, but you have to ignore that given if you were to acknowledge that your entire argument would collapse so you’re just repeating the same shit while samefagging and ignoring anything that contradicts you.

I read all of your posts. You still haven't told us what's east of Nellis.

So this is it just sperging out whole larping as four people and ignoring shit that has been said to you? Okay here is where I point out Arizona and here is where I point out New Canaan but I suppose you’re too busy samefagging to actually read and argue what I’ve said.

You're bragging about using your mouth to pleasure people. Do NOT reply to me anymore.

You would be better served typing your opinions into a notepad document if you don't want to actually discuss anything or risk being wrong, retard.

This. I engaged the NAP fag so much and he never even tried to begin to defend the concept, such cowardly faggots.

valley that isnt known to be occupied

What were house's envoys doing there then? Conducting diplomacy with the geckos?

played as a sub

woooooow I'm getting domed by everyone! Wtf!?

I played as a dom, i killed the people I didn't like to the point i was the only person alive at most of the important infrastructure. Idk even know what could rival me. I have my hp and do more damage than 2 death claws and I'm basically god.

Try playing better?

There were 'no trespassing' signs posted

b-but other military compounds with those signs are abandoned

not my problem

these fucking mass replies

Does anyone actually read through these blogs?

He couldn't even stop one well armed courier from killing him.

Nobody can stop that. If you're in the Mojave, your life basically belongs to the Courier.

You retard, -I'm- the one that kills everyone, I -replied- to a basic bitch sub that's idolized with every faction because they don't have the nads to fight and take what they want from the Wasteland. Learn to read, you give badasses like us a bad name.

What's east of Nellis?

Easnuts

So are you just sperging out now because you failed and are just going to cry about post length and repeat the same questions that have already been answered? I know fags like you need to pretend to troll when you get btfo but that fails when you go to such lengths and actually try and fail to argue before that.

I already said it in other posts

Sorry, the thread is quite huge and I seem to have missed it. Mind quoting the relevant part where you specify what is located east of Nellis?

And also east

It literally doesn't. It goes straight, then a left turn towards the gate of the base. You can walk off the road eastwards only to run into a corner, the one that the lairoad track goes to, blocked off by the perimeter fence and a cliff. Open up the game and check for yourself.

Arizona

Caesar's territory, you mean. You know, the territory which has road networks so fucking great the merchants can't stop talking about them. Road networks you refuse to take for some bizarre reason.

Quit with the schizo copium by the way, it's embarrasing. Nothing more embarrassing than seething over being ratio'd.

Why is it that there are always these types of deranged manchildren? Like every time they fail they always go into a tizzy and start throwing these pants shitting tantrums to try and act like nothing matters to cope with being wrong. Is it really that hard to just leave the thread?

What's east of Nellis?

Its horrible in every regard, the story is just a shitty retread of fallout 3, there are no worthwhile cities because "You Can Build Your Own!11", the factions are painfully boring, the East Coast setting is aesthetically plain and tedious, the followers are dumb and uninteresting and skewed heavily on gay men with nothing but 1 passable female oh and the fact you are thrown into power armor and fighting a deathclaw in the tutorial just blew the progression and pace of the game up from the start

Voiced protag, shitty skill system and horrible dialog trees are just toppings'

Dont listen to the memefags Fallout 4 is shit and NV and even 3 mogs the hell out of it

my raison d'etre

Who's Rob House?

No as I like to play different characters with different ideologies but I do hold House as my "real" choice
I don't really believe in any of the hypercapitalist ideas he goes on about but he's the one that has shown the most foresight and he's far more utilitarian than he lets on
He's also not obsessed with holding power solely in his hands, spreading it if he thinks it's for the greater good (creating the families and onboarding the courier)
Most importantly he isn't a blind expansionist. He wants to build his city into the heavens, not spread a flag across dirt
Even if House doesn't succeed in any of his lofty goals, New Vegas will stand for hundreds of years
Completely irrelevant to any real discussion but the House ending also has the best "plausible" headcanons; you can go with anything from courier's descendants become the fourth family; OWB tech means the courier is a revitalised House's immortal right-hand man etc.

4chanX

You retards really can’t help yourselves

Sorry, the thread is quite huge

You said you read all the replies, so you’re blatantly lying about either not seeing it or reading everything. Either way you’re confirming that you’re lying.

It literally doesn't. It goes straight, then a left turn towards the gate of the base

So in your mind if a road stops somewhere and then there is no road after that means that it’s not leading to it, I guess that means that a road that stops at a dock doesn’t lead to that dock or a road that stops at a forest doesn’t lead to that forest, this is the retarded logic you keep giving and you know it’s bad since you just keep mindlessly repeating it but can’t actually defend it.

Caesar's territory,

Is all of the Mojave his territory? Since I pointed out that fact already and never said the Arizona didn’t have roads. You’re also ignoring New Canaan since you know that the road to it is in an even worse state than the Mojave.

Are mass replies annoying or something

Oh look baby is mad he was called out for samefagging and has to make it everyone else’s problem.

Lmao why tf did i get a you?

Thanks.

as in he's full of shit?

So in your mind if a road stops somewhere

Love how you conveniently ignored

You can walk off the road eastwards only to run into a corner, the one that the lairoad track goes to, blocked off by the perimeter fence and a cliff. Open up the game and check for yourself.

Is all of the Mojave his territory?

You were talking about Arizona.

and never said the Arizona didn’t have roads

Great, so why aren't you taking those roads and insist that you're taking the road to the boomers' base because you and your caravan totally want to climb a cliff with an invisible wall?

You’re also ignoring New Canaan

New Canaan is Yeast?

lol I’m totally not him and I’m going to bring up getting a (you) just to make it clear that I’m not mad and just doing this for attention

Why are you so desperate? You’re just oozing insecurity.

This one was funny.

So in your mind if a road stops somewhere and then there is no road after that means that it’s not leading to it, I guess that means that a road that stops at a dock doesn’t lead to that dock or a road that stops at a forest doesn’t lead to that forest, this is the retarded logic you keep giving and you know it’s bad since you just keep mindlessly repeating it but can’t actually defend it

if a road stops somewhere, does it really stop?

mmmm what about forests?

Genuinely funny. We crosses the barrier from annyong and dumb to playful and silly.

Good on ya.

Bruh you can admit you forgot about the sherif securitron and the fact that houses upgrades would apply to that subroutine as well

plasma defender

Elon musk has a robot army?

aka incelcore

You can walk off the road eastwards only to run into a corner

And you’re saying a corner does not equal the road ending?

blocked off by the perimeter fence and a cliff

To the east? On the way leading to Arizona and Utah?

You were talking about Arizona

We were talking about the way to Arizona but here you are again misconstruing whatever you can in desperation.

Great, so why aren't you taking those roads

You mean taking the roads on the place that the player isn’t? Because we’re talking about the Mojave and the fact that east of Nellis is Arizona and Utah. But again you can’t argue that so have to attempt to misconstrue.

New Canaan is Yeast

I’m going to assume that was a typo, and still call you a retard for not knowing that New Canaan is in Utah given Graham pretty much tells you it was Ogden before the war.

base because you and your caravan totally want to climb a cliff with an invisible wall

So desperate you now have to apply mechanical game limitations to the world itself just to cope.

Gotta love how retards are so consumed by modern political shit that they can’t get their heads out of their asses and see the forest for the trees especially when it’s so obvious.

Not every time but he is objectively right. It's not like he intends to fully get rid of the NCR or anything.

Troons thinking Yes Man is the right option don't realize the obvious satire that yes man has nefarious intentions and that the courier is a dip shit.

Hyperbreeder Alpha (it's named after me)

its reasonable to walk through 631 miles barren desert with absolutely nothing in-between to eat, drink or rest while ignoring the established, patrolled and supplied caravan routes that are mentioned and explained in game.

At this point you're just forcing poorly thought out headcannon onto people. You're free to do so but don't be surprised that people point out that it doesn't make sense and they will probably mock you for it. Like right now.

You have the reading comprehension of a horse penis. Some visual aid might be necessary for the peanut between your ears to process what's going on.

This is east. Outside the Nellis base. Blocked by the Nellis fence and cliffs which your brahmin isn't going to climb.

How are you getting past this without trespassing on the base, and why are you even here instead of taking the regular routes all the other merchants that trade with Caesar (Arizona) take?

Imagine wasting hours of your time discussing the milquetoast "politics" of a shitty game like New Vegas

You’re aware that there aren’t any actual roads to New Canaan given it’s pretty fucked up and has a bunch of raider tribes. For fuck sake you have to go through a cave passage just to get to Zion. Again you’re just going in circles and giving arguments that already failed but since you’re ego won’t let you stop you’re just going to keep crying and going in circles.

Does House own an air fryer?

So you're giving up on the arizona angle then? The goalposts move again?

You’re aware that there aren’t any actual roads to New Canaan given it’s pretty fucked up and has a bunch of raider tribes.

How is that the Boomers' problem? How are you solving this problem by insisting that your Brahmin can climb the cliffs outside the Boomers' property?

This is important, I need my has brown patties crisp, but I don't want to make them oily.

literally HOW is anyone supposed to trade between the boneyard (LA) and phoenix or flagstaff without going through las vegas

show me on this map, tough guy

remember you gotta go EAST and look whats EAST of nellis

hint: it aint airzona

Still samefagging it seems, what did you have to hop on your phone after getting called out for using 4chanX?

no u

brings up horse dick as his example for some reason

Man you really can’t argue.

This is east. Outside the Nellis base. Blocked by the Nellis fence and cliffs

And if back up a bit there is another way, but good to see you keep having to be dishonest since you can’t argue.

How are you getting past this without trespassing on the base

Because you’re not going into the base, you’re going onto the road near it.

why are you even here instead of taking the regular routes all the other merchants that trade with Caesar (Arizona) take

Because there are other routes, also still can’t acknowledge New Canaan.

Your army isn't everywhere at once

neither is any other form of law enforcement. yet laws remain enforced. curious.

your neighbors are just like the khans and fiends? curious

So you're giving up on the arizona angle then

Nope I pointed out New Canaan as well as Arizona and you’re trying to argue about Arizona as “another person” but keep going for these retarded gotcha attempts instead of arguing what I’m saying.

How is that the Boomers' problem

It’s not, but that means it’s also not there problem when people kill them for attacking people that are minding their own business.

Brahmin can climb the cliffs outside the Boomers' property?

You keep trying to larp as others people while giving the same arguments that you use as both. It’s honestly embarrassing how you think this is working or maybe you don’t and you have to out of a mix of compulsion and desperation.

underrated

And if back up a bit there is another way

Mind sharing a screenshot?

Because there are other routes

Yes, that's what I said. Why aren't you taking them?

also still can’t acknowledge New Canaan

So you have a god given right to trespass within the Nellis base because the tribes of New Canaan won't let you trespass to the north? Nice lolbertarian "logic".

Because as everyone knows, 911 is just one guy. The YM ending is indefensible, only retards and anarchists try to do so. A single egomaniac and an army of robots-weapons is not enough to handle the day to day needs of an entire region.

This post doesn't even contain an argument, just excessively juvenile whining about who you think I am trying to pretend to be. You're clearly a newfag not too accustomed to the whole concept of an anonymous image board.

Post big irons

Mind sharing a screenshot

You already did so you know what’s in the area, but i suppose you can’t show a more complete look at the area since that would show you were being dishonest.

Yes, that's what I said. Why aren't you taking them

Really you said there were other routes aside from the regular routes? Again reading comprehension.

So you have a god given right to trespass within the Nellis base because the tribes of New Canaan

Nice strawman, but good job showing that I was right and you are ignoring that New Canaan is on a path with little to no infrastructure.

is This post doesn't even contain an argument

Elon is a 200 year old living mummy?

you can admit you forgot that securitrons can operate independently as well as a group. no one is going to laugh any harder at you.

Murders abuses and murders his own brother

Kills the BoS on a whim that they'd be annoying in the future

Just gives up 90% of the mojave to raiders and the NCR because truly the real money isn't in the banana stand but the banana stand sign maker business.

fpbp

So John Doe who just took over the entire region as a hostage will have securitrons watching your every move 24/7 in every occupied settlement and everyone will be fine with it. Much independence, so wow, I love being recorded by police dash cams 24/7. Just admit you're some leftie totalitarian who masturbates to the thought of becoming Stalin.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE that my vast army of heavily-armed Securitrons has been rather inflexibly programmed to respond to acts of aggression with overwhelming force.

a) For examples of "heavily-armed" and "overwhelming force," I will refer you to the pitiless campaign of extermination my Securitrons will have visited upon Caesar's Legion by the time you are reading this document.

b) Any NCR military personnel who do not withdraw from New Vegas and its territories will be seen as committing an "act of aggression."

fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Order_of_Withdrawal

Try again.

but i suppose you can’t show a more complete look

How many screenshots do you need me to take? Why are you even insisting on me doing your job of showing these routes for you anyway?

Really you said there were other routes aside from the regular routes?

What the fuck are you even trying to argue here at this point. You mentioned Arizona. I asked you why aren't you taking the routes that all the merchants going to Arizona take. What the fuck are you even on about at this point, you retarded schizo.

you are ignoring that New Canaan is on a path with little to no infrastructure

I thought you don't need infrastructure. Which is why you're trying to scale the cliffs to take the desert path Yeast of Nellie. And again, why are you entitled to the Boomers providing you infrastructure?

Murders abuses and murders his own brother

Half brother and he stole the family business from him

Kills the BoS on a whim that they'd be annoying in the future

You mean the people who do nothing but force people to give them all of their technology?

Just gives up 90% of the mojave to raiders and the NCR

Didn’t have the manpower to challenge them, that’s the reason why he needs the platinum chip.

how about an army of robots that can function as police?

one man can't command an army of humans effectively, necessitating command structures, because humans are generally unpredictable and there are a huge number of variables one person won't be able to account for from a command position vs a ground position. but one man can set an army of secritrons to "protect the peace and defend against outside threats and patrol evenly/effectively" mode and then deal with rebuilding the region. said man doesn't even need to form a power structure with other people, as the robot army is capable of also building other structures, etc.

I didn't play this game more than once because i'm not a transexual.

Nope
just start a new run of NV

This. 99 hours and not looking to make it 100. That's when the transition happens.

You realize that isn't relevant to the yes man ending, right? That's a note from HOUSE. That is how HOUSE chose to program the securitrons.

i'm not being murdered

i'm free to do pretty much whatever as long as I'm not committing any crimes

BUT THE POLICE ARE ROBOTS THIS IS HORRIBLE

Half brother and he stole the family business from him

He was the illegitimate son and he killed his parents in that plane crash

You mean the people who do nothing but force people to give them all of their technology?

True, but it actively works against his statement that he wont go out of his way to push people to do what he wants, especially considering the BoS is a dying beast in the mojave. Because if he can cope that they would start raiding his heavily fortified city he can sure as hell make shit up about the people in his city.

that’s the reason why he needs the platinum chip.

No he still fucks around in a small patch of vegas after that

How many screenshots do you

Why do you keep going all the way to the edge and not show the road leading in? You keep showing the railroad as if that the same as the road that you walk into past the dude that warns you. I know why because you know that you’re wrong.

What the fuck are you even trying to argue here at this point

That there are other routes to Arizona aside from the regular ones, again why is your reading comprehension so fucking awful?

asked you why aren't you taking the routes that all the merchants going to Arizona take

And I said why, there are other routes, you know that traders are always looking for new routes and way to go right? And having one that leads to both Arizona and Utah would be beneficial.

I thought you don't need infrastructure

Yeah that’s what I said and what you’re saying wouldn’t happen, but good on you for showing you can’t stay consistent and keep having to go for cheap gotcha attempts instead of arguing. Man me bringing up New Canaan really just got you floundering.

first thing the BoS does to you in FO1 is tell you to jump in a hyper irradiated pit as a "prank" intending you to die and to loot your corpse later

first thing BoS does to you in NV is strap a explosive slave collar around your neck(they actually do this to you twice if you count Elijah)

nooo the brotherhood are just frenly little guys they've never done anything bad to anyone

as the robot army is capable of also building other structures,

None of the robots House are shown to use are capable of creating anything, they're just weapons. And again, no one wants your robots spying on them 24/7, Goodsprings residents are already creeped out by Victor, and you want an army everywhere with the autonomy to answer to threats as they see fit. That's a surefire way to have everyone flee to NCR territory.

Tranny post

any entity with a military force at its command is essentially holding an entire region "hostage."

kys libertarian rat

the securitrons are just weapons

fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Victor_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)

whoops.

and he killed his parents in that plane crash

He did that at the age of 2? Because that’s when his parents died.

True, but it actively works against his statement that he wont go out of his way to push people to do what he wants

That’s not pushing them to do what he wants it’s stopping a group that are basically techno raiders from causing him issues.

No he still fucks around in a small patch of vegas after that

No he gets all of the Mojave and the securitrons patrol the roads. I mean in his ending he kicks out all other factions and only lets people in that want to trade and gamble while charging the NCR for utilities from the dam.

Caesar is right about them, a degenerate technocult with no future or vision.

The NCR was invited in by the Desert Rangers, and a system full of people can't be compared to one full of robots. Bots only obey you, it's your personal dictatorship to a far greater degree than ever the Legion is to Caesar.

Fag talk and nothing highlighted, go fuck yourself.

Yes because the game ends for me after I murder the shit out of Benny and then complete my delivery. I just replayed it again last week, 7/10, would play again.

you can admit you forgot about victor bro

you can also admit you forgot that the upgraded secritrons also have upgraded intelligence.

If you don't stand with the Brotherhood of Steel, then you will fall with the communists.

Make an argument or stfu fag. What did Victor ever create or build.

and not show the road leading in?

The... the road leading into the Nellis base? I thought you said you want to take the road without the goal of trespassing.

That there are other routes to Arizona aside from the regular ones

Can you outline these routes that somehow cross neither the Nellis base nor any cliffs on the map? Your insistence on bringing up irrelevant shit that baffles me.

keep having to go for cheap gotcha attempts

Man me bringing up New Canaan really just got you floundering.

You being incapable of seeing the irony in this is hilarious. Why did you bring up Arizona before bringing up New Canaan? Could it be perhaps that you fucked up trying to get your "gotcha" with the Arizona argument so you needed to shift goalposts? My little retard couldn't possibly be this hypocritical.

Don't bother replying if you can't show me an eastern route to Canaan that doesn't cross through the Nellis base. I've no interest in replying to more asinine, irrelevant shit.

a system full of people can't be compared to one full of robots

but anon, that's what you've been doing all thread. insisting one person controlling an army of robots, capable of independent or group operating, is identical to one person leading a huge army of people. that said person is only able to be a tyrant.

BoS is the only good faction.

securitrons are only weapons

what about victor

okay what did victor build?

moving goalposts

They aren't really any better than the Enclave, the NCR should've hunted them down and finish them off after beating them at the Helios solar power plant.

I didn't, you're being retarded. Robots can't handle the complex logistics required to manage a region full of people, period.

You're just being a nonsensical retard on purpose at this point. Kill yourself derailing faggot.

house was literally planning to use robot (read: securitron) labor to put people on the moon bro

The Kings must stay

talking about the game? that's derailing the thread!

You don't understand. If you don't work construction, you're a soldier. That's how it is IRL.

House is a drooling retard who had every single one of his "employees" betray him, all he managed to do with Vegas is turn it into a hub of absolute degeneracy. House is just some sci-fi obsessed autist, his plans are utter nonsense and even if possible wouldn't be a goal to strive for. All House has produced is a city where you can waste your money fucking whores and taking drugs until you're broke and tossed out the front gate to starve to death if you don't learn to catch giant rat with your bare hands like the kids do. House is a filthy degenerate Musk larper.

Lying faggot

hence why house needs the platinum chip to upgrade the securitrons so he won't have to rely on shitty humans anymore

You would know I would rather run a barbed wire between Todds asshole and his and floss his insides with it rather than consider the existance of anything his shitty fanfiction puts out. Kill yourself.

Nothing was retconned and no one was character assassinated.

Someone didnt even watch the show their glazing.

Because he's more fleshed out in his 15 minutes than most characters are in the main story.
This
Daniel is a fucking faggot

AI videos

It's no surprise the AI content is as soulless as the people who make it. As if negligible-cost children's "entertainment" wasn't already on its death bed since Elsagate, now the next generations of youth can be endlessly assaulted by heinous drivel churned out by the factoryload.

omg, you ran barbed wire between todd howard's mouth an asshole and flossed him to death to avoid knowing about fanfiction!?

fanfiction?

no screenshot for what I called out

Very telling how the second i mentioned that you try to play dumb.

The... the road leading into the Nellis base? I thought you said you want to take the road

Except the road doesn’t just lead to Nellis it leads eastward as well, but I see you have to backpedal yet again.

Can you outline these routes that somehow cross neither the Nellis base nor any cliffs on the map well there is the Colorado River which you can take a raft across if you can find/make one, there their is the wide expanse of desert that can be crossed which caravaners and traders aren’t strangers to.

You being incapable of seeing the irony in this is hilarious. Why did you bring up Arizona before bringing up New Canaan

Because it is directly east of it? But it seems I’m once again right and you can’t actually argue anything about New Canaan

no u are doing a gotcha

Why are you like this? Honestly it shouldn’t be this hard if you’re a mentally competent adult.

with the Arizona argument so you needed to shift goalposts? My little retard couldn't possibly be this hypocritical

I wasn’t shifting the goalpost, the argument was east and so I pointed out things that were eastward or Nellis, which you just ignored until you couldn’t take being called a retard and finally acknowledged it only to keep fucking up. Also how is it hypocritical? Do you know what that word means or are you just using words you’ve heard other people say to you whenever you’re in this situation to sound smart?

Don't bother replying if you can't show me an eastern route

I did, but I can see you’re at the “pwease don’t reply to me anymore you big meanie” portion of your temper tantrum. I’ll just say I’ll accept that as your concession and wait for your next reply where you give more copes and tear stained nonsense.

I go independent because it lets me kill every important NPC.

True for ncr fags only

House built that robot.

You're not even worth a (You), you retarded shitskin. Fuck even reading your mental diarrhea past the first line.

broken limb

automatic rifle

opinion discarded

can’t show start of the road

You really can’t help but squirm can you, and thanks for replying again, just because you don’t give a (You) doesn’t mean you’re not talking to me.

you retarded shitskin

Projection isn’t healthy kid, but thanks for showing that what I said pissed you off, maybe you should you get some self control and not sperg out when you can’t argue.

Fuck even reading your mental diarrhea past the first line

If that was case you be this mad about it. I already accepted your concession you don’t need to keep going unless I was right and you are just coping.

Supposedly, the actual reason for this is that they couldn't or didn't care to get Ron Pearlman back into the recording booth for the required new slides, so what we're actually hearing is the line for sending Sarah Lions into the purifier but chopped up slightly to fill in the new stuff. It's just a consequence of it being unplanned I guess.

Not to the common civilian, the common guy never heard of you

The entire point of the rep system is to demonstrate the fact that you're famous.

You even have gawkers waiting outside when you leave the 38 for the first time, because you're literally the only person besides Benny to have ever been inside.

And just to add insult to injury I went and took a pic of the whole area and I was right you were purposely hiding shit. Even drew a little line so you wouldn’t miss it.

Part of the Institute is that 99% of them have never even seen the surface before. They're just in a cycle of telling eachother the surface is totally already dead, there's nothing that can be done to help it, and the guys up there are just savages that basically aren't even human anymore. So it's ok to dump our science experiments out there.

Sir, that is a 25mm grenade launcher, you will recant your statement, even if anon is a nigger.

Nigger are you for real right now?