It's been 5 years

it's been 5 years

Are you happy with the progression of the FF7 remake trilogy since then?

In all honesty, the most I remember about it are the history niggas

5 years ago, FF7 brand was forever damaged.

I didn't finish, and probably never will finish, the first part.

The brand went from “break in case of emergency” to “yeah maybe I will buy the complete edition decade later when it gets 50%+ discount”

Are you happy making dogshit threads?

i want noejima to get cancer.

Kino Fantasy 7 Remake

You won't finish a complete edition. 7R1 and 2 combined are already about 160 hours long. Double that for completionists.

It was forever damaged with Advent Children

Shit was already permanently damaged in 2006, Zoomer.

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original game that can be 100%'d in 50 hours

remake stretched out to 300+ hours of bloat

Nah senpai, miss me with that gay shit.

7R1 and 2 combined are already about 160 hours long

How? Its only like 20-30 hours of actual story.

No, I am not happy with Square utterly raping FF7 and their cashgrab being celebrated only by newfags and secondaries.

I won't buy it until the whole "game" is wrapped up in a trilogy package and 20% off.

Are you happy with the progression of the FF7 remake trilogy since then?

No, I didn't buy a single thing from SE after I found out it's a multiverse shit sequel larping as a Remake.

I'm happy with nuYuffie, they should flush everything else and give her a game.

I've only played the demo area twice, once on ps4pro, once on ps5pro, so yes. I'd rather they took a long time and put out something impressive. Remake is downgraded, looked good in previews, that's what we should have gotten, for current gen if needed. Rebirth looks like shit, not sure if i'll get it, have a lot to get through that's better.

FF7 was a good game. A remake is a bit of an insult, but people wanted it, devs wanted to do it, a way of showing off hardware, PS3 would have been impressive with it.

Rather they take their time. Don't finish it off. Stretch out parts, make them beautiful. Fan service. Make 7's areas the best they can. Don't need to be 3D either, can be 2D spheres when need be eg for certain sets, memorable ones, where there needs to be a lot there. Especially in the distance.

Controls are shit too. need a patch to use shoulder buttons/triggers for everything. They fucked up there in the extreme, face buttons are useless, thumbs need to be on sticks at all times. Doesn't seem much more can be done after the demo area. just a repeat of select attack. Switch modes. Heal. Use whatever magic something is weak to. Dodge. The same old shit. But that can be set aside for good exploration. Jumping around doing flips at the start for attacks seems silly too. Attack taking you in like FFXV's warp strike would end up being all you used if it was integrated though. Glad the combat isn't complex to cover for it being simple. Eg have to do button combinations and other shit just to do regular attacks. Options might help, and rewards for doing things differenty incentive not to repeatedly press attack. That could be ok as long as it made sense, was tactical, eh your health came from lifestream, stronger connection if doing well, more powerful, do badly and it takes over to a larger degree. Good for all players then, some incapable of combat. But not missing out on trying, whatever little they do counting.

Continue past where PSX game ended. Weird longer.

Game is called FF7 Remake

Its only the first section of FF7

Its not even a remake

Seriously, how the fuck did Square get away with this? Its blatantly false and misleading.

But your expectations DID get subverted!

I fucking hate time

yeah
i am not touching this shit, but i am happy that all modern slop AAA games are failing.

From the director who watched Evangelion.

That's ridiculous. My first playthrough of Remake was 40ish hours. I haven't finished Rebirth yet, but a normal playthrough isn't 120 hours long.
But also, you're on a forum with folks who have days of playtime in MMOs. Do you really think three games being 40+ hours each is too much for people who spend their free time talking about video games?
Nothing in your post is right.

No, I didn't care for the first 10 hours before I brought it back for a refund
I wanted something like the RE1 remake, not

advent children: le heckin reimagined prequal

They even managed to fuck up the mobile game that's SUPPOSED to be closer to a 1:1
I'm fundamentally disappointed in square, and I wish snd hope with every fiber of my being that pt 3 is a horrific failure and square gets the ubi treatment and gets bought up by China
To my knowledge they still haven't released sales for pt 2, after over a year, so that's promising

just got the part where sector 7 plate is destroyed. whoever decided the music that played during this part needs to be fired.

Fanboys are desperate to convince others to buy parts 1 and 2 before 3 comes out, because "its will be too long and you'll get burned out if you play them all together"
Putting aside the fact that that in itself proves the entire undertaking is a misfire, they do this because they're terrified that the ending will be shit and everyone will know it and they'll lose out on those sales. They need to move as many copies as they can before the potential disappointment of the final game.

The compilation exists

I finished it last week. It was pretty good, at least entertaining

Interstellar about to turn 11 years old too, damn time flies

So the remake will be shit as soon as it's finished? Anyone who hasn't already played the first 2 parts shouldn't bother? That's handy

remember a couple of reaction videos of people going apeshit for the reveal

bet they changed their mind when they found out it wasn't turn based

Turn based isn't the problem, the problem is they took a 30 hour game and made it a 100 hour slog that takes a decade to finish, with a retarded new story that won't ever be complete since Kitase is already planning more spinoffs

between not even being able to play rebirth yet cause no ps5 and not good enough gpu, and the fact I an an OG fag of ff7 no im not happy.
and fuck time ghosts.

one day I will finish this game.

but GAKUTOSAMA is based

I bought PS4 for Remake and PS5 for Rebirth. I wanted to play both games on launch so I bought the consoles and got to play them on launch. Funnily, I got Remake over 10 days before the official launch day because our local super markets sold them early.

Also you don't get to call yourself OG fag if you failed to secure the means to play the remade games on day 1. I bet you don't even draw fan art of your FF7 waifu

you don't get to say you played the originals if you didn't buy the "remake" (sequel) at release

I did with the first part and you know what happened, they released it for free on ps+ within a few months, and yuffies DLC wasn't even on ps4
in essence fuck you

At least you have the option to watch someone else play your game on youtube. You can even hold controller while watching it to pretend you're playing it.

I can forgive the story changes and the retarded stuff but the bottom line is they're so fucking boring to play. the fun stuff is there but lost in boring bloat.

Just finished ff7 crisis core and I am never ever never ever ever never going to play another FF game ever. Dmw being random is dumb, and I absolutely hate cloud for the importance he gets in the game.He shouldn't be capable to swing sephiroth after tifa was injured. Fuck him. Also why would anjeal commit suicide by Zach's hands? I was excited to kill the hordes of shinra troops but he fucking dies to some randos. Bullshit. Also supposedly aerith cucks him afterwards for That tranny cloud. Fuck your jewish kabbahlistsic game of sephiroths and jenovahs witnesses.

he played Crishit Core first

kek thanks for the hearty laugh retard anon

It would have been much better if he lived and grew up to be more like Anjeal instead of being a plot device for that tranny bitch cloud. He was supposed to be the fusion of Anjeal and Sepiroth as Commented by Genesis but he got shot in the head by some nobody. Also hated that annoying whore tifa.

He shouldn't be capable to swing sephiroth after tifa was injured

Have you played the OG FF7?

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No it was my first ff game, I also didn't knew anything about FF before except for Sepiroth existing and tekken coming to tifa

Before Rebirth's release, some black guy played the game early and fell asleep at the point where Zack is sleeping in the shack. I saved the pic and posted it in the next thread and got banned for spoiling.

Zack sleeping in random shack is considered spoiler

When i heard about episodes and saw what ugly clown they turned Tifa into I decided that I would never play that shit scam games.
I played the original (for the first time) and called it a day. it was actually pretty good

You will never meet a Crisis Core fan who doesn't have autism or some other neurological defect or emotional issues. It's fascinating.

Why didn't you play the OG first? Are you baiting?

party is travelling around the world going on all kinds of adventures

Cloud falls asleep

cut to this

I'm still reeling they had to have down this on purpose

I only finished crisis core last year, but holy shit was the story in the second half of the game complete rubbish. I dont know why people have been saying its such a great PSP game for the past 2 decades.

starting with a shitty spinoff

But why

same opinion since it released. remake and rebirth are fun games but the story is beyond ruined.

I simply wanted to play a game on my psp and didn't knew or even care about the lore or any past/present games

Stayed optimistic after the remake ending, but the dlc confirmed my worst fears. Didn't bother with rebirth and from everything I've seen it's clear I made the right choice to walk away. Seems like many others felt the same way.

Final Fantasy VII is available on the Playstation Portable

info outlets need to remind the goycattle that FRANCHISE exists

forgotten game

No, It should have been one game.

Anon ruins FF7 for himself and blames everyone but himself

Yes, remake basically is borderline perfect to me and introduced what i consider the best team action combat system in video games and some of the best bossfights in the industry and its not even close.
I loved rebirth as well but i prefere the somewhat slower less spastic deliberate and weighty combat of remake, mind you rebirth still has the same combat system and i am talking about small nuance changes here.

its just like remake 99% of the story is the same and then they do some ending stuff thats out there but ultimately doesnt really change shit to hook you for the next one, you are missing out big time.

Controversy aside, I like how they fleshed out the characters more than the original ever did.
They feel like real life person with their own personalities and problems.
I admit that Remakes have mostly replaced the original as the definitive version in my head.

big time

BIGLY

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I'm not happy that they jacked up the requirements for Rebirth on PC
There is NO reason I shouldn't be able to play all 3 games in the trilogy on the same GPU
Shame on Square Enix

Rebirth is easily 120 hours long for a normal mode 100% completion.

them getting the characters right especially aeris and cloud is by far the biggest welcoming surprise to me

add 40 hours on top of that if you go for hard mode and optional bosses

But I can finally go down the slide

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some ending stuff thats out there but ultimately doesnt really change shit

Sorry, that doesn't "hook me" because I'm not a retard

you are a retard by definition if dont play rebirth

Forced soul

He just doesn't have PS5 nor good enough PC

I don't like being as upfront as this but he's kind of right

Sneed

Sorry, but how is "they do crazy shit that doesn't change anything" a hook?
Actually explain that to me using your words in a way that makes sense

Nice handled

Morning Jimbo. 5 years, huh?

I war trying to give it a chance up to the last boss section. But after som uch bland crap, badly designed combat system and just uninspired looking and feeling everything I just dropped it. Haven't tried the second one and not planning to see what's a third one all about. Fuck Nomura and fuck nu-Squenix. It's only good as a source of models for Blender porn.

you are skipping out on a game that is faithfull 99% of the time and a masterpiece because of 1% at the end that tries to hook you with some unexpected thing that literally doesnt actually change anything and is still in fact the same exact thing just that now you see it through clouds eyes coping with it.

tries to hook you with some unexpected thing that literally doesnt actually change anything

Again, how is that a hook? You repeated yourself instead of answering the question.

The mystery I don't have any screenshots of that part yet so have this meme

But it's not a mystery. Nothing has changed. If you're right it means I miss out on nothing by skipping the game. I know what happens because nothing is different and the unexpected thing at the end doesn't change anything.

doesnt actually change anything and is still in fact the same exact thing

So no mystery at all then

Rebirth ends with Cloud thinking Aerith surivived and talking with her while the rest of the party is confused what's wrong with him as they just had Aerith die

The same as in the original from a different perspective. But the same thing. Are you going to tell me the story is different now? New mysteries? You really need to pick a lane and stick to it instead of goalpost moving to wherever best suits you.
Is the story different or is it the same?

Cool, now that I know that I know everything I missed out on by not playing it.

you basically see it happening through clouds eyes and him coping thats the difference a perspective change and a interesting one at that

I'll live. The games didn't hook me up to now. Maybe they should have done something more different. Keeping it 99% the same is boring.

Ok so the story hasn't changed, I'm not missing anything then.

You could have watched it from Youtube. But if you don't play it, you have no idea how the game system plays, how it feels and what buttons and combinations you do, do you press the button or hold it and so on. The synergy skills feel different from just watching it, the enemy skill Plasma Charge feels different when you actually play and can feel the discharges hitting enemies as you rush in with Tifa or other melee character amidst the enemy group the wreck havoc and so on. The game is not just the story but playing it. How to dodge the swallow attack from the sand worms, how to learn to quickly switch to characters when needed, how the chocobo races chocobos steer and slide and so on. You can treat it as a movie and set the difficulty to easy if you only in for story and character actions but you are then missing the feel of the gameplay and the learning curve of how to handle the battles and action

5 years for a unfinished remake of a 30 year old PS1 game

Sad

Take it up with , that's the figure he gave me

I ehh'd him too lad

except some of the best combat system and bosses in gaming as well as amazing music, visuals, characters and all the locations and towns being fucking amazing..
basically you miss everything and if you think like you do you might as well not play games anymore anyway and just watch them all on youtube and be done with actually playing

hi fren you seem agitated why not get some fresh air

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I think it's interesting that he assumed I wasn't hooked because it wasn't loyal enough to the original. Telling me it's 99% the same doesn't make it sound more tempting, it's less interesting that way.
But I've noticed the default position of 7R defenders seems to be assuming anyone criticizing it is angry that it's not exactly the same as the original - which is strange if it's apparently 99% the same anyway.
Personally I'd have liked them to stray further from the original path. I don't like how they half assed it. Or 99% assed it, it seems.

68/100 -PCGamer

Nothing personnel kid.

some of the best combat system and bosses in gaming

What games that you've played are you comparing it to?

And if you just watch it, you will be mindlessly seeing numbers but when you play it, the numbers don't matter, they are noise. When you play it, you pay attention the health and stagger bars. You pay attention to the enemies stances and movements. You learn to pick up when your ATB meter charges to quickly utilize ATB action or go to pause menu to choose it, as you can only bind 4 commands to the short cuts. How Aerith controls so much stiffer compared to Tifa and Cloud but once you get radiant ward on and get to deal better damage, the feel of shooting the rays change too and you learn when to teleport because Aerith's dodge is that much smaller and worse.

NTA but do tell which games according to you do the combat system and bosses better

Let's both wait for that guy to answer my question before I answer that. I asked first after all.

Not that anon but I like that it's not parrying and dodgerolling like most action games out there but you're swapping between characters and building ATB so you can use commands which build synergies which in turn give you infinite mana and build Limit Break levels/gauge and then you can unleash some gnarly shit on the bosses, the materia system allows you to make some crazy builds too. There's literally nothing like it out there.

I remember one anon not understanding the game expects you to switch between the characters and he just tried to brute force playing Cloud only and got his ass served to him and him blaming "the AI team mates"

Cool, I'm glad so many other anons are jumping in to respond. Let's wait to see what other games has played that he's comparing remake to.

The only game coming close to Rebirth's battle system is Remake and Rebirth simply build on top of it.

It should have been one game. Splitting into 3 games and spanning it over a decade is just bizzare.

ng2, kh1-2-3,dmc1-3-4-5, bayo1-2, god hand, star ocean 2-3,tales games etc i basically played every character action game you can think of and all of them through several times and on the hardest meme difficulty modes (crit lvl1, dante must die, master ninja etc) and i played most jrpg team action combat sytem games you can name. (i am over 40 years old started gaming with amiga.. i have probably more game history so far then your entire life)
and in terms of team action combat system FF7r is the best combat system in the entire gaming industry and it is not even close.
You literally can do every single thing you can do in a turn based game (elemental weaknesses, targeting different body parts for bosses, status effects) all in a action (not turned based) TEAM combat system without overloading you while doing it and without it feeling like a mess or chaotic, after the inital learning curve you are in full controll all in realtime of a team and it works in every aspect.
It is literally the first non turn based rpg that managed that in the history of the industry.
Some tried (tales, star ocean etc) but never managed to do it completely. FF7r did.

There is no bottomless pit into mako juice in the Rebirth's Nibelheim reactor. I wonder how the 3rd game is going to handle it.

The baiter got fucking destroyed

We need a new calendar. 5 years doesn't mean anything anymore. Nothing keeps happening, so the years are meaningless.

Get out and do more shit then loser

Nice, thank you for the reply

baiter

He said it was the best game combat ever with the best bosses ever, so I asked him what other games he played that he's making that judgement on.
Is that really baiting? It's called discussion

Anon Babble really is cooked is shitposts have fried your brain that bad

Don't worry anon, just save up your neetbux until you can spend the $1500+ you'll need to upgrade/buy a new PC that'll handle the game without looking/running like shit. Way better than shelling out $400 on a PS5 to play it and have it run perfectly with zero issues, same with any other AAA game these days with garbage PC ports. Nah, way better to stick to PC and stick it to those console fags, am I right? Truly the master race.

You haven't even played the game you are discussing

We don't know how part 3 will turn out.

Assuming you only play vidya 3 hours a day, every day, that’s still just two months.

I also never said anything bad about the combat but some guy and his backup are fighting for their lives to convince me it's the greatest of all time for no reason.
The combat is the greatest, fine, I never said it was bad. And apparently it's the greatest of all time, and that's coming from a guy who has played every action game and jrpg ever, several times, and always on the highest difficulty. So I'm not going to disagree with him.

You're acting like I came in here and said the combat sucks. I didn't. So, again... what bait?

So have you played Rebirth or have you not played Rebirth?

Snowboarding

Wutai

Golden Chocobo

Submarine

Weapons

Rocket Town

Too much shit to look forward to. Remake and Rebirth were fantastic, the only things I'm worried about is Rocket Town, mainly Cid having his edges toned down and not screaming at his wife, and having more Chadley and flying dirty dishrags to deal with. I liked doing all of Chadley's shit, but it was in spite of him, not because of him, because as a "character" he's a giant fucking nothing and it was fucking annoying hearing his stupid fucking voice any time I did anything.

EDN IT
JUST FUCKIND EDN IT

PLEASE
IT'S BEEN 25+ YEARS OF BEGGING FOR A REMAKE PLEASE MAKE IT STOP
It's just FF VI but shitter, please, please get over your baby duck syndrome holy shit it's a single FF game, just play it if you wanna reply it, use your fucking mind bro to imagine the characters, this didn't need to happen.
You've wasted a considerate amount of your time and the time of thousands of Japanese men and women on trash. Please, some of those qt's could have done something of worth. I hope you all die in a fire.
Can we arrange an FF VII remake wisher convention? I'll host it. I'll provide food and drinks for everyone and arrange for Nojima and Kitase to talk at the event.

I said in the beginning. I played Remake and the DLC. Decided to skip Rebirth because the story didn't hook me. Then someone told me the combat was the GOAT, which I never contested. I just asked what other games he's comparing it to.

So, again, where's the bait?

You're only finding out now how schizo, jumpy, overdefensive and insecure viirfags are?

No

You are expected to have played Rebirth. It's been out for over a year now.

The last third of FF7 sucks ass, how are they going to make an entire remake around that and not have it suck?

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5 years for one terrible game

For comparison, VI, VII, VIII, IX, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross and Xenogears came out in the same period of time.

Consider the following: you have shit taste

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So, for anyone that actually played Remake/Rebirth. Do you actually use shortcuts, or do you go through the menu for every single action for every single character? It's been like a year since I beat the game, but I'm still confident I had Braver, Focused Thrust, Triple Slash, and the last slot would jump around between whatever my newest skill was, one I was trying to learn, or whichever was the best for that moment in the game.

i am over 40 years old

And your English is still this bad?
Grim

You won't finish a complete edition

Sounds like a problem for Square Enix then, not me. Can't wait to pay 90 dollars for FFVII: Retard

I said "normal playthrough" not 100% completion."
Most players don't even come close to 100%ing open world games.

Didn't they upset VII fanboys by straying from the original?
The last third could kick ass now. Trust in Nojima, Toriyama & Nomura. Fear the small gay man and Kitase.

came n went like a fart

Short cuts for the actions I use the most, menu for actions I use the least

I didn't like Rebirth much, but this was one of the scenes that was done very well

t'internet was better when the only Americans who were on had money, used a work connection or went to higher education.

Fucking GRIM. If someone was 15 when they started, they will be THIRTY FUCKING YEARS OLD when they beat and play part 3.

How the fuck can you have any enthusiasm for a series that takes this long to play and enjoy? I like media, but after a while you just lose interest.

Kind of, but the people upset about the changes are mostly Compilation haters anyway. A small but vocal minority.
Plus the actual story of the remake project has been stated many times now to not be changing, they added a new mystery that people just think means things will change.

A common complaint I saw was people bitching about how much shit there was to do. Can someone explain this fucking retarded complaint that people were having of there being too much to do? Like they had a gun to their head and were told they HAD to do Queen's Blood, all the minigames, and every single sidequest and bit of world intel. If you hate doing this shit so much, then don't fucking do it and just shotgun the main story? I don't know what happened in the past decade or so where we're at a point that people are actually bitching about having too much video game in their video game.

the 3rd part going to be released in 2027 to celebrate the OG's 30th anniversary

It is because Zack shouldn't even be in a game that follows the original FFVII

Thanks to timejannies it was doomed from the start but Rebirth just added even more unneeded shit

I skipped all optional content and it was still a slog. I can't imagine how miserable it was for anyone trying to 100% it.

This is fucking insane.
In the 2000s I had such optimism that things in the future would be so awesome with how powerful computers and technology could get. Boy, was I fucking wrong lmao.

You can thank Sakaguchi for that.
Also you can thank him for keeping SE alive for 15 years after that, funding a whole bunch of flops.
He really shouldn't have resigned over the movie. He definitely should not have passed the franchise to Kitase & Hashimoto and he should have kept Ishii & Kato working on FF games.
With gooch still at SE, rolling in the success of FF X & XI's money printer: we would have got an FF XII that was finished without Kawazu needing to step in.
The possibilities for SE WITH Gooch still there are endless. A million what ifs.

Remake ends with Zack surviving the battle against the army and carrying Cloud to Midgar

I hate zach and the whole one winged angel bullshit with sephiroth so much
its unreal.
the crisis core story is the gayest fucking shit ever.

Every FF tapers towards the end, especially FF7, you're flexing because you beat some optional giga-boss? Good for you I'm very proud but over here in the real world: no one likes the last third of FF7.

Iconic moment.

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The "extra stuff to do" was repetitive checkbox mini games. I wouldnt exactly call that real content.

yeah, i've been loving the remakes and i can't wait to play the next instalment

Cutscene direction has been on point.

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me on the bottom right playing stillbirth

99% of the time is very generous when it's 70 percent at best with all the Zack shit, parallel universes and characters knowing things they shouldn't on top of other details changing such as avalanche being less morally grey to push the wutai plotline

Achievement hunters & completionists ruined gaming and I'm not even kidding.
They've spoiled games for themselves, they could just you know, not do it, or do it on a 2nd playthrough like normal people but they have destroyed their brains chaising a .png and a bunch of text shorter than an SMS txt message.

With how most series are making us wait 7-9 years for sequels i'm impressed how fast they're coming out. And ontop of that Rebirth was a huge improvement over remake in every way

This way 10 years from now they can announce another remake... for real this time we promise!
And people will fall for it.

I genuinely think if something in a game is optional it cannot be criticized

only recently played the original so no nostalgia goggles

really disliked the ending

Why do these retards think you NEED to end the game with some big chain of a bombastic boss fights? They could have like did that in the temple then had the rest play out as normal.

Fucking Yakuza 7 did that.

main villain isn't even a fighter

fight your big threatening boss

right after that you get two easy fights with the villain + guards and then solo

it works because the last "fight" fit

To be fair, there's good materia locked behind Chadley, You want those? Get exploring the same copy/pasted excavation intel sites and fight the same enemies you fought in the overworld but now in the VR.
They should have had each area have its own unique shit.

Also being optional does not make it immune to criticism.

It's honestly not fair that we have people speaking negatively about these games based on them playing shit they DON'T HAVE TO DO

game is fucking boring even without sidequests. shit story, shit dialogue, shit characters, shit unreal engine slop and ugly and female shinra officers everwhere courtesy of sweet baby inc.

70 percent

This is a much more realistic estimate

Thanks to timejannies it was doomed from the start but Rebirth just added even more unneeded shit

It's the needless bloat. At the very least, Part 1 should have included Nibelheim and NOT had pointless filler DLC about fucking Yuffie of all things. No, I don't buy that she was on some whacky advneture in Midgar before you met her.

I think these should have been PS4 games, released within 2 years of each other to cover everything. Square-Enix is too caught in AAA developer mindset to even consider making shortcuts, which is why their games are too long to make.

Part 1:

Chapter 1 - Midgar and Nibelheim flashback

Chapter 2 - Kalm to Rocket town

Chapter 3 - Rocket town to Ancient City

Part 2:

Chapter 1 - Icicle in and Northern Crater

Chapter 2 - Big materia

Chapter 3 - End-game

Bam, there you go. end it on Aerith's death. Use a map system rather than "open world" horseshit to bloat games. If you made 1:1 translations, you could keep it to two games. Really. You don't need time jannies, you don't need new characters or flashbacks. Midgar should be like 4-6 hours tops. 45 minute Nibelheim flashback segment. Then get on a "world map" that's stylized like the original.

My point is as stupid as getting banned for that is, it's still a spoiler

Doubling the length of these games would objectively improve them because there'd be more to do

They already had a foundation with Remake for the battle system, characters etc, so it's probably easier to build more from that.

More time spent with the characters can only be a good thing

I don't even think it's bad for being 70 percent faithful but that 30 percent truly hasn't amounted to fucking anything yet let him cook for a decade isn't an argument

*ugly nogs
the town should be renamed to niggaheim.

This is fucking insane.

What's insane about that 3 release wall was functionally they assembled 3 small-medium teams then as they finished up on one, they'd work on the other.
I guess a lot of people don't realise it but Nomura even worked on FF XI. This was before he became a slacker that needed to be beaten up by Hashimoto to finish something. He worked on X, XI AND Kingdom Hearts at the same time. Nojima worked on both X & KH too obviously.

People shit on Gooch for spirits within but he got 3 teams to shit out two "okay" games that FF fans enjoyed and FF XI by essentially bringing together people who didn't work on FF in years or ever.
It's really a miracle when you consider they built not only the FF X engine, BUT they also built FF XI's engine, and it ran on the PS2.

That block of 3 is an insane achievement, he should never have resigned.

it's not parrying and dodgerolling like most action games

Until you play Hard mode or Brutal VR.

you're swapping between characters

Assuming your character is appropriate to use in a given situation

unleash some gnarly shit on the bosses

Until it forces a cutscene in which you waste all your built-up synergies and ATB

the materia system allows you to make some crazy builds too

No it doesn't. Materias are rationed like it's military because game devs hate freedom. Go play OG and experience true materia freedom.

There's literally nothing like it out there.

Aye. It's uniquely bad.

I skipped all optional content and it was still a slog. I can't imagine how miserable it was for anyone trying to 100% it.

I could at least justify 100% the game if there was a singular contained game and you have your original team and gear from the start, but you don't. Your progress ends and you get a full team of people who might as well be from a new game each time. I loved how in the original you could keep all your materia and use it end-game if you wanted. You bought some ice and lightning materia, and by disc 3 it's hitting ice 3 and bolt 3 on bosses. That enemy Skill Materia you got early game is the one you keep all-game and max out.

That's the SD era. You know how many, many, Japanese developers had trouble transitioning (heh) to the HD development cycle of the PS3-360, such as Capcom and Nintendo and they had hard times? Square NEVER left that era. they still struggle with it. They don't have their own internal engine and use Unreal. They buy assets and outsource to morons. Their games take insanely huge time to come out.

Fromsoft adapted by keeping their games "small" and making many shortcuts, like having small cast of NPCs, few cutscenes, and only using English theater voice actors and no Japanese. Capcom adapted by making major investments in engine and motion capture and other tech.

Square? They languished, and have no clue what they're doing. Their execs are beyond stupid (imagine a room full of Keiji Inafunes). They mindlessly chase trends, fell for the Unreal engine meme, hire Americans to write and consult games.

mad cuz bad

The OG FF7's materia system was just as locked as Rebirth's. It only opened at the end game when the optional content allowed to you get the end game materia and you got enough AP to get duplicates after mastering individual materia. Until then it was locked behind progression. You didn't get Added Effect Materia until going through Cosmo Canyon dungeon and finding the matera in the dungeon. You didn't have multiple of them until you mastered one and to mastering it took more than normal story progression. You got optional Elemental materias but same thing again, you didnt get excessive duplicates until mastering one and by that time elemental didn't event play factor anymore. Materia system was good both in OG and Rebirth, but you are blinded with nostalgia if you think OG let you do crazy shit until very end of the game and to get the good end game materia you needed to grind chocobo races and battle square

those asset store assets

that font

There's a bland-ness and genericness that robs the remakes of a lot of their charm. I hate it. Their UI should be based on the original, and keep a similar look, rather than trying to look like a god damn glossy website.

All those problems are in Hard mode too you idiot.

I hope you're up to date with the most recent development

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Rereretard
Zack is so much better than that tranny claude, it's a shame he died so early and couldn't be the better angeal.

Fromsoft adapted by keeping their games "small" and making many shortcuts, like having small cast of NPCs, few cutscenes, and only using English theater voice actors and no Japanese

Big problem for Square with things like this is that their bigger success was essentially built on being these big story driven games with impressive visuals and cinematic cutscenes. For a while they were top of the class in the industry in how impressive games could look and how expressive stories and characters could be shown, and became part of their core identity. But now that more developers can reach these same skills, or even better, it doesn't stand out as much anymore and I think they really struggle to find what their new thing should be. You have other companies cashing in on old school jrpg mechanics, and have this big market of action games, and Square just sort of dangles in the middle of that with no clear identity. I think we will see them lean more into remakes for this reason, as it's a safer bet. More of the Capcom route.

Why is the remake remaster reimagined retry 5× longer than the original and still not done.

FFX had the virtue of having more excessive end-game content with the monster arena, Omega Ruins, dark aeons and Penance. You got lot of gameplay for your end game skills because of them. FF7 only really had battle square, Weapons and final dungeon for that so you didn't even get to utilize your top crazy shit that much. Even FF7 Remake had more excessive end game content with Hard Mode and battle simulator for you to utilize the end game rewards

Voice acting, real time action, expectations for content

The OG FF7's materia system was just as locked as Rebirth's.

Lol no.

It only opened at the end game

So you admit it was more open than Rebirth?

Until then it was locked behind progression.

No it wasn't. If you were autistic enough then you could grind 300 AP/battle at the end of Disc 1 and multiply your already existing materia as much as you saw fit.

you didnt get excessive duplicates

I am going to decide what is excessive to me and what is not, fuck you thank you very much.

you are blinded with nostalgia

No. Demake trilogy limits what you can do in order to make you care about action combat. Here's a better solution. Allow me to master Synergy and Cometor 2 times over just so I can do stupid shit in my own private gaming session that affects nobody.

Remember the parts in the original that were just textboxes? Yeah they're full blown cutscenes at a higher quality than Advent Children now

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Because it's based on bringing things up to the level of detail in Advent Children, which means expanding story content/character interaction.
That's the thing I think the devs felt fans really wanted. And to their credit, one of the goals of the project related to characters and story is correcting fan misconceptions and inaccurate memories of the original.
I think a lot of fans who have a particular, inaccurate view of the story are going to be upset when they realize they've been misinterpreting VII for 30 years. But that day is coming.

Square NEVER left that era. they still struggle with it. They don't have their own internal engine and use Unreal. They buy assets and outsource to morons. Their games take insanely huge time to come out.

What are you talking about.
Square Enix are THE poster boy for developing a next gen engine for the 6.5 & 7th gen and it backfired massively on them.

Crystal Tools was forced on FF XIII, XIII-2, Lightning Returns, FF XIV 1.0, FF XIV: ARR, FF XV, Flopspoken and now FF XVI. It's evolved through the years, changed names but it's still that same cursed engine. Did you know in FF XVI that when a cutscene plays (even when pre-rendered) it's ALSO rendering where you stand? Just like FF XIV. Even if it changes area, it's still rendering Clive.

SE had massive issues transitioning because Wada forced that on the FF team. Enix bros escaped that, NieR used middle ware, TLR used UE > CT (a good choice) IU used UE, NieR Automata used middleware and its own engine.
DQ XI however was forced to use UE 4.
SE are not this massive UE only place, they've got crystal tools which became luminous and currently is used without being named on XIV & XVI.

And for all the shit I gave Crystal Tools. It's turned out "kinda" okay. The scalability is trash like modern REengine & modern MTFramework but for what it's intended for: it's alright, it even has modern features like directstorage & gdeflate (that work worse on nvidia because their driver team can't code).

Could you please not post trash information. YES SE love using UE, like every other developer but they are not tied to Timmy's tits.

higher quality than Advent Children

Wow!

Yeah Advent Children is pretty damn high quality

Chokeroth for comparison

Whatever happens, a lot of people are going to complain, but you and me, we're going to love it no matter what we get, because we understand FFVII and the intent behind the remake.

only 3 hours a day

I wish the FF7 mines would stop holding Nomura hostage so he'd finally be able to work on something he likes doing, aka Kingdom Hearts

You have other companies cashing in on old school jrpg mechanics, and have this big market of action games, and Square just sort of dangles in the middle of that with no clear identity

To be fair, they did appeal to that market too, but they did it in a retarded way.
FF with traditional mechanic & experimentation went handheld in the DS era/PSP era. They experimented with light action mechanics too, but eventually 4WoL/4HoL became Bravely then evolved into Octopath. DQ kept its turn based identity even for X.
The Last Remnant carried on the sprit of SaGa, then eventually Kawazu got the the green light to make a good SaGa game for the Vita, last year he released THE best turn based game I think I've seen, its battle system mogs and it was built on a budget of $500 and a unity license.
-but again, aimed at handhelds and even mobile devices.

The difference with the other developers who stuck to turn based for their main franchises, is that they were still releasing them on home consoles and mainline, not as spinoffs like WoFF.
SE never had the confidence in games with older mechanics and it shows.

Sorry but I need him to direct more action scenes

It's like I said. You didn't get Added Effect materia until you reached the story point of getting it. You didn't get Steal As Well materia until you could access the Wutai statue cave and have Leviathan scales from Junon underwater reaction. The materia were locked behind story progression and sometimes even had optional requirements.

Yeah, you can grind but you saw me talking about regular story progression. The end game materia were rewarded only at the end of the game. You either needed Highwind, Chocobo Breeding and Racing or Battle Square for them. And as pointed out, besides Battle Square, Weapons and final dungeon, you really didnt need the end game stuff because the story was designed to be possible to be completed without them in the first place. Even Ancient Forest that you get to access either by mountain climbing chocobo or defeating Ultima Weapon had regular enemies whose stats nor skills didn't require end game stuff to get through and the main reward was 2xCut materia

The brand was damaged by literally everything in pic related

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Also to note on how hard this segmentation went with the handheld era.
On DS you have FF III, IV, remakes iirc and 4WoL.
On 3DS you have NO real Final Fantasy games, there's a single spinoff that's a lite-arpg and is shovelware and theatrhythm. This is when they gave up on the FF brand and made it Bravely Default instead.
The game wants to sit alongside FF V but it's relegated to its own franchise because SE were still huffing the "ff has to be like FF VII " juice.

do the yuffie dlc

This edgy Dirge faggot was so fucking cringy.

Gay niggers

Tranny cloud

I am glad I left this franchise with crisis core

fan wish fufilment where the character le lives

I hate this. They did this with the Avalanche crew as well. Dyne's original scene was perfect. Post battle he walks off and jumps off a cliff.

I still say the original's story and pacing is absolutely perfect.

I was simplifying and know that they had trouble with their own enegine. But it's telling that Capcom and others have their own engines, but Square tried, bungled, then went back to Unreal.

yeah, Rebirth is the single best piece of FF7 media ever released. Can't wait for the finale.

where the character le lives

He literally dies in the webm

Also I fully agree on the retardation they pull, squeenix has no sense for sublty

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there is no controversy, this board is just full of retards who haven't played the remakes yet hold incredibly strong opinions about them based on shitposts and false information

sublty

*subtlety
fuck

but Square tried, bungled, then went back to Unreal.

They used it on BOTH Forspoken AND Final Fantasy XVI in 2023. I know you may be suffering from it's 2025 syndrome but that's was <2 years ago. Features were backported from XVI into XIV, for Dawntrail, which released in July last year.
They very much still use it. They're using UE on VII remake because Nomura fell in love with that shit.

You know what's really tragic? Is that Crystal Tools will STILL be kicking around in some form when FF XVII comes out, because unless that sucker's developed by a Kitase/Nomura squad by CBU/CSI: It's going to end up on Crystal Tools.
Your only hope of escaping these two shitty engines is that somehow the franchise is gifted to Yoko Taro but even then you're not safe. Access games used UE3 for DoD3, the only reason tomato escaped it was due to being developed with platinum.
Even reincarnation was on fucking unity.

They want big and flashy graphics for FF or mainline FF. So that means it's Crystal Tools/Lumi or UE5. No chance of anything else appearing and they won't sink their money into developing a brand new engine for the ground up when FF mainline is struggling to meet sales.

When someone criticizes these games it's easy to tell they're just shitposters who haven't played them. Nobody would play these games and criticize them. They must just be angry they can't play them, I can't think of any other reason why they'd come here and say bad things about them.

The lack of subtley and changes ruins a lot of iconic scenes and pacing. Yuffie isn't Yuffie, she seems like she shows up, says "hey, I'm Yuffie from the famous Final Fantasy 7" *crowd applauses* "Remember when I did this?" *does a tiktok dance*

Aerith and Tifa are the same. They act like the opening of a FFM threesome porno scene. "Hey, we're Tifa and Aerith from the famous Final Fantasy 7. We're waifus!" *audience applauses*

A bit like Star Wars, knowing how the fans reacted and cared about these characters makes the creators themselves over-induldge in fanservice and shit. Like how the Prequels made it all about Jedi and light saber battles eventhough it rarely made sense. Less is often MORE.

Would it have made more sense for Square to just buy Platinum Games' internal engine, for all its faults and then use middleware for the rest? Nier Automata was fine for open world and scaling and performance. Any issues are related to budget and quality of assets.

If youve played these game it means you liked them

Are you retarded?

Remake fucking sucks, Rebirth is fantastic, and Ever Crisis sucks most of the time but occasionally they pull some kino out of their ass.

Started playing remake and I love it

I think a lot of fans who have a particular, inaccurate view of the story are going to be upset when they realize they've been misinterpreting VII for 30 years. But that day is coming.

That's been happening since remake. Maybe even since Advent Children. And it happens to nearly every adapted piece of fiction. You always get retards up in arms about how an adaptation didn't match the tone of the original blah blah blah, when in reality those whiners simply misinterpreted the tone of the original all along

I cant stand Sephiroth in this. Hes like a parody of himself.

i hope you posted lots of spoilers

I'll probably like whatever SE give us because I understand the original, unlike the whiners. I'm glad to see there are others like me.

Cid got hit the hardest but he's still got his moments

Nahh Sephiroth scenes are the best

Have you got a better explanation for all the criticisms you see posted here? They obviously haven't played them.
This

stop replying to every positive post in the thread you flaseflasgging homosexual retard

This has to be bait

One thing that's now obvious: FF7 shouldn't have been a mainline FF game. Either it should have had FF: Subtitle, or had a new IP name, like "Ever Crisis", or something relating to Gaia. That'd make it easier to do spin-offs and shit.

They're all like caricatures.

Hey I'm Aerith, the beloved Waifu. I bet you're all gonna love THIS scene I'm about to do!

I'm Yuffie, you know how quirky and silly I can get! I bet you're all gonna love the silly and slightly provocative dance I'm about to do! I bet you wanna replicate it on tiktok right kids? *winks*

Cid doesn't have rocket town

Cid and Red13 aren't playable

Is this true? I haven't played Rebirth. Why bloat the game then cut out core content? Why have the plane in working order to begin with?

I wouldn't go that far

Red is in Rebirth, Cid will be in the next game along with the Rocket town visit

The plane is in working order until it crashes then it becomes a boat like the original

I think it would have, Automata's scaling is solid (for PS4 etc to PC) but it depends on assets/polys.
but they used that back in what, 2015 > 2017 for Automata, they were still just getting over releasing XV, Heavensward came out, Stormblood came out and XIV was just about to turn a profit and enter ShB and Forspoken was in the works. They still had high hopes for Luminous engine.

There's an old presentation on next-gen lumi features where they even have Takai face scanned and on stage, so you can see how committed they were to it.
I'm not a graphicsfag, well, I like graphics tech but I don't desire flashy graphics so I'd say yeah, use Automata's engine and middleware. but I also hate UE and Tim Sweeney with a passion, so I'm going to gravitate towards that or Lumi > UE any day.
I think they'd benefit more from going in harder on stylised graphics than going full throttle for realism, but they've been trapped in this death spiral since VII/X released.

Plat/Automata's engine would almost certainly be better suited to VII R's combat over UE, it's built for action games first whereas UE is more modular. I'm glad they worked it out but they definitely had to build in whatever they didn't copy over from KH3.
It's a fairly safe bet to say that one of the reasons UE would be picked over anything else was because of what they had working on KH3; a game they had trouble developing on UE and had to ask Epic for help on...

agree with positive posts by saying the same thing

someone gets mad about it

Strange

be a retard

get called a retard

pottery

being positive about remake makes you a retard

Why is this place so miserable

Red13 aren't playable

Go fuck yourself. You can watch people playing RedXIII

pretending to be positive makes you a retard, retard

No, they killed the pacing of the series and the cutscenes/dialogue feel like Tekken cutscenes. It's incredible how they took a scenario and mystery as well loved as FFVII and made it feel like utterly bland shit for 12 year olds.

tfw you will never leave Aeris to seethe

Why have the plane in working order to begin with?

Haven't you played the OG? When the party arrives to Rocket Town, Rufus and Palmer arrive too. Cid and Rufus are having a talk while Palmer tries to steal the plane. The party fights Palmer after which the plane starts taking off. The party boards the plane, it swirls around the rocket and goes to Rufus and Cid. Cid jumps on the plane and Rufus orders the shinra grunts to shoot it down. The plane takes hit and crashes on ocean and after that you get to use it as boat

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What's upset you, anon? Let's talk about it.

Took them 5 years to make 2 games where the story was already written and its still not even done but if we go back to 1997 in 5 years we have FF7, FF8, FF9, and FFX to play.

5 years

Jesus christ. I remember it was covid lockdowns and I just had an foot surgery so I was speedrunning though the
remake in less than a week. Very comfy week.

I'm most excited/concerned how they will improve the combat in 3rd part. And how will they handle the open world. I don't see you just being able to go to rebirths areas with them being identical to what they were in rebirth

They have all the groundwork done so part 2 should be out in 2021 at the latest, with part 3 out even sooner. The trilogy will be done by 2024.

I don't get it, Aerith never had friends growing up?

When someone criticizes these games it's easy to tell they're just shitposters who haven't played them. Nobody would play these games and criticize them.

Nah, I got a PS5 just to play Rebirth. I genuinely enjoyed most of it up until the temple of the ancients. The story went to trash after that. It was funny how you just see a glimpse of the forgotten capital but cant even explore it and it just ends. The ending was also a shit show. Im just sick of the pretentious Nomura bs. And I sold my PS5 shortly after that because no games.

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The thing is by and large, I don't find FF7 Rebirth very impressive graphically. A lot of low quality generic assets and NPCs. Whenever a custom character like Dio walks in, looking as quirky as he was before, the game shines. When it's actual custom assets it looks fine, but too much of it is low quality slop assets so it is a blur.

She had a lot of scalpels and needles as her friends

That's right. When she was baby, Hojo and shinra grunts stormed their home in icicle inn and killed her dad. The mom and Aerith were taken captive to shinra. After escaping Shinra her mom died and Elmyra took Aerith in. Shinra found her and let her stay at Elmyra's. There's no indication she made any friends.

In Remake's Train Graveyard the ghosts spirited Aerith away and Aerith re-lived her childhood trauma of kids playing hide and seek and no one coming to look for her until she snaps back to reality and sees Tifa and Cloud coming to her rescue. It's implied Aerith didn't have friends growing up, either because it was known she was under supervision from Shinra and Turks or her origin being so special Elmyra not wanting to risk Aerith or her potential friends' well-being.

You haven't played the game

My memory was a bit fuzzy, I thought Prof Gast got whacked and Aerith and her mom made an escape and made it to Midgar. It's only weird how the turks are supposedly searching for Aerith while she hardly makes her presence a mystery. She lives in a big house that seems to pre-date Midgar, and goes to the local church.

Yes, I'm enjoying the fuck out of them and I'm happy I didn't listen to Anon Babble. The Gongaga region OST is KINO.

can you use the buster sword the whole game?

Come on. Here's Tseng (the Turk) visiting kid Aerith and Elmyra in the flashback.

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Yeah, but Aerith says she is on the run from Shinra, and they want to grab her or something. I can only justify this as they didn't care but Hojo gave them orders to kidnap her right then and there after leaving them be for years. Why they would leave her alone is never explained.

Yes. All weapons continue grow in stats and abilities throughout the game. For example the purple sword is the only sword that gets Reprieve ability (Cloud remains in 1HP on the first hit that would have KO'd him otherwise)

Weapons level up so there's no "best" weapon in the game, just what suits your build. You do have to switch to unlock weapon abilities for a short while however.

I'm looking forward to the remake remake so they can fill in these gaps. The explanation will be very interesting.

Nobody had any complaints about the OST, it's the exploration in Gongaga that's shit.
If you aren't going for 100% world intel you won't really notice, but it's dog shit terrible. Music is the only thing that kept me going in that region.

sweet baby and DEI touched

it is truly unfortunate. If only I could enjoy it without reserve.

This might be a controversial opinion, but I would like to have sex with Tifa

Skill issue

le weapons level up

abilities tied to weapons and not MATERIA the entire system is built around

fake and gay. I want my real FF7.

It was some set up of Shinra wanting Aerith to return on her own volition as they wanted her to lead Shinra to the promised land. I guess they learned their lesson with Ifalna (Aerith's real mother) that trying to force cetra to do their bidding just ends up in mess. So Aerith returns to Shinra when she was ready to make the deal Marlene getting to safety if Aerith returns to Shinra

Stop that. The weapon skills are character specific while materia can be changed around characters

Still not out on Xbox

Switch 2 is getting a port though

Explain this? Microsoft and Square Enix said they were partnering for stuff and yet it's still not on Xbox? Do they have an agreement with Sony to not release the games until the last one comes out?

Yes, I have.

One day I will own this game

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The entire ending sequence was such unbelievable hot garbage. I don't understand how any of that low tier fanfiction.net writing would make anyone excited for part 3

Both are just Hojo and his heavy-handed tactics. He's always portrayed as a mad scientist and lunatic. He whacks Ghast for his own reasons too when he didn't need to.

The Promised Land

Another potential plot mistake. There's no reason why Northern Creator shouldn't have Mako reactors as it's still a wound that is the most direct link to the lifestream on the planet. You cant' get better than that. What did Shinra even want?!

Why didn't we listen? I'm sorry Tifa...

Thanks now I'm imagining Aeris doing Tifa combos

Fake and gay. Limit breaks should be the only thing defining characters.

Just adapting 1:1 is apparently beyond them, they need to spice it up with le timelines shit. I fully expect more Aerith and

yes very

My thoery is part 3 will start with Aerith's death then you play as Alt-Aerith who senses something is off, senses Zack and Cloud. Then you play Zack, then go back to Cloud's team. The end-game is Zack-Aerith-Cloud being the main heroes.

Take out all the shitty nomura slop and time jannies and the remake games would have been fine. Nobody asked for multiverse mystery boxes.

Why DO VIIR fans react so badly to even mild criticism anyway?

I did. Essentially, some weapons have better physical stat, some have better magic. The Buster Sword sits in the middle ground and is completely fine to use the entire time. Although I would recommend using the other weapons to unlock their attack skill and then switch back to the Buster Sword.

That's because you have a 2 digit IQ

Zack

cringe

tbf looking at other stuff lately I've begun to feel it's not just the FF7 devs, but devs overall who just can't play it straight with remakes etc. (rare exceptions aside), even if FF7 is a particularly extreme case

Oh it just clicked with me why they made alt-timelines. Zack is a property and they can make an alt-universe "what if" sequel to further milk FF7.

In this timeline Zack lives and gets to experience the events of FF7. Play FF7: Alternate History now on PS6!

Have no fear, we got stories for years. What if... Zack became a robot?

What if Aerith became a Shinra Exec?

Do-do-dooo doo do doo.

We're calling them dream worlds now, keep up

You kinda deserve to be mocked like this, you are stupid as fuck

why they made alt-timelines

They didn't

Terrible idea.

So Part 1 was like 90% of the original
Part 2 was like 70% of the original
Is Part 3 going to be like 0% of the original and just go on its own tangent?
Holy shit, its just like the Evangelion Rebuilds.
Nomura = Anno

on my psp

no wonder you hate the game, the remake fixed dmw getting in the way

If I say one small criticism of these games which I otherwise enjoyed and this sperg overreacts, I don't feel mocked or stupid. He's just embarrassing himself.

The media iliteracy on this thread is worrysome.

Why are FF7 fanboys so fucking unbearable?

I mean, if they're just gonna do whatever they better really lean into it. At this point I still hope it gets so retarded it loops back into being kino.

It's shocking how many people here still think it is a multiverse.
Anon Babble really just consits of low IQ spics and pajeets at this point and everyone else migrated to X.

You have low tolerance. Probably best you leave this place before it warps you completely.

it's happening

w-what is?

What makes you say that?

They are getting multiple timelines and multiverse mixed up. Although I would debate that the FF series as a whole is likely a multiverse.

It's shocking how many people here still think it is a multiverse.

How is it not multiverse slop? Explain how it works without different timelines.

The Reunion.

kek saved

They are getting multiple timelines and multiverse mixed up.

Theres no difference.

They are getting multiple timelines and multiverse mixed up

It's neither
It's way more similar to dream zanarkand than to either of those

Anyone criticizing these games is stupid as fuck and deserve to be mocked like this

All capsing and mashing the keyboard like a toddler sure showed those haters who's boss

Thats one thing, jimbo
Saving this for our friends in /ffg/

Zack is definitively shown to be alive in an alt-timeline in Remake anon. That's a sequel hook if there ever was one for a game where he's alive. We're in Comic book land where no one really dies because they love sequels.

MCU gets the blame for this, but check the timelines for when these games would have been written and Eva Rebuilds would have been a more likely candidate for influence. And note that "Reviving Aerith" is one of the most requested ideas in the FF7 fandom. So why not do it? I'm not saying it's a good idea, I'm in fact saying it's terrible.

This beloved brand from the 90's that influenced our game is coming back and they make an alt-universe where events start to deviate the more they go on. This is how we can revive FF7! The fans will be on the edge of their seats trying to figure out what comes next! - Square exec guy

Part 3 will feature Alt-Aerith and Alt-Zack teaming up, and they leave to their own timelines and Tifa will remark how sad it was that our versions died, and they will embrace as the canon couple. The end.

The only thing missing is a FUCK YOu from the execs to screw over the "who is the best waifu and companion for Shinji" with a new whore to piss off the fanbase. I think Anno has a special set of hatred for Eva fans that the FF7 devs lack so we won't get a new girl stealing Cloud from Tifa.

Zack is definitively shown to be alive in an alt-timeline in Remake anon

No he isn't. Zack will never return to the real world and there is no alternative timeline, only 1. And only one lifestream.

You didnt play the game.

Thats one thing

What?

You know, dude
Gonna do a check here to add more to the list

Alt-timelines is just another way to create alt-universes. Back to the Future Part 2 did this as well.

They have all the same trimmed cloaks

So did they all go to the same store? All Seph clones got a discount?

I think a lot of fans who have a particular, inaccurate view of the story are going to be upset when they realize they've been misinterpreting VII for 30 years. But that day is coming.

I do think it's been going on since Advent Children. The evil-gang are supposed to be Seph Clones that survived the events of the game, and that's why Seph can hijack one of their bodies. That's supposed to be what is happening in mainlien FF7, but people didn't pick up on it. Many thought you were chasing the real Seph, then you see Seph in a materia crystal for no reason, then fight him at the end.

Thank you for reminding us just how mentally unwell the guy who posts about jimbo everyday really is

I don't know what you mean but ok

No he isn't. Zack will never return to the real world and there is no alternative timeline, only 1. And only one lifestream.

There's another timeline as that Zack walks away and is fine. he only senses something is "off". You can easily set a new adventure story where he's the hero in a new game. They will get their Zack sequel story.

Only thing is that the FF7 remakes aren't landing, they're not bombing, but not big games either. They may end up not making anything like this.

I always thoguht their cloaks were just some shabby rags they threw over themselves, not something custom. I mean out of all the magic bullshit, that's a minor detail to worry about.

Yeah the stuff where they hired an actual writer to make real shit ruined the beep boop roblox-looking ps1 masterpiece
Holy shit gamers are cooked

You are a retard. If you can't understand the plot just play CoD or some shit.

There's another timeline as that Zack walks away and is fine

It's a dream world, in the lifestream. He can never leave the lifestream again

lmao

lifestream shenanigans is totally different from alt-timelines. ;)

Zack dying to the Troopers is still what happened in the physical world. The only thing I am confused about is why Zack is moving around as an individual in the afterlife/lifestream instead of dissolving like most people who die because at the end of CC it really didn't seem like he was hellbound on lingering around. It could be some kind of Aerithfuckery

Yes, they are top of the line games.

Mental gymnastics

Ohnononono

Why can Sephiroth be in the physical world again? Because he inhereted Jenova's abilities right?

Zack dying to the Troopers is still what happened in the physical world.

We keep cycling through this. I know what happened in Cloud's world. We're not talking about Cloud's world, but the new Zack world. Whether it's a "dream" or simulation (functionally not any different), then it's still an alt-timeline. You could easily set a whole game around this.

Yes, remember that Jenova is DEAD as in thousands of years ago the Cetra actually defeated the bitch and she's now just a lifeless husk with some cellular activity. Sephy is the most dominant Jenova lifeform so he assumes command of the entire operation. He can project his consciousness onto random beings which have Jenova cells in them, his so called "clones", and it's how he can dominate Cloud.

This needed to be updated with the latest cope

OK, now it's perfect

He can create the illusion of being there and use jenova-cell-infused bodies to interact physically, by using Jenova's illusions but his real physical body is dead as fuck and cut in half still. Some people think his real body is just comatose and frozen, idk. Maybe but it doesn't make much of a difference.

Made this for you bro

Saved

Jenova is a virus. The Jenova body you see in the game that was confined in Nibelheim and Shinra HQ was deceased Cetra woman inflicted by Jenova before she was sealed by remaining cetra

You're so cool I'm jealous

I knew you'd be upset but not THIS upset. Sorry bro.
Can you delete that file actually? Lil bro doesn't like it.

Yes, remember that Jenova is DEAD as in thousands of years ago the Cetra actually defeated the bitch and she's now just a lifeless husk with some cellular activity.

I think this element is taken directly from The Thing, so it makes more sense to refer to the film. They dig something out of the ice, and it's functionally dead because its higher brain functions are gone, but it's cells are still alive and still reacts. Sephy is in control and has an actual brain so he gets to be Mr. Jenova now while he's physically in a coma in Northern Creator.

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What do you mean? I am genuinely in awe. If my comment has upset you I would like to tell you that I am sorry you feel that way.

Cloud's world

I wouldn't call it that, just real world. Cloud has created yet another dream world at the end of Rebirth lole
I mean they could sure drag the Zack dream world stuff out but I don't think they will (they had the chance here but the Zack sections in Rebirh were short af) because AC is still where this leads to. Zack is bound to accept that he died and from now on can merely support his bro Cloud from within the Lifestream a bit.

Jenova is a virus. The Jenova body you see in the game that was confined in Nibelheim and Shinra HQ was deceased Cetra woman inflicted by Jenova before she was sealed by remaining cetra

I think she was the honest to goodness main body of "jenova", the last piece remaining, and very powerful, and she was in the form of a Cetra woman. The Cetra did a huge battle, sacrificed the last of themselves aside from a few who escaped, and killed the bitch. Then dumped the remains in some ice or something.

My mistake, I thought you were annoyed. Thank you for the compliment and apologies for the misunderstanding.
Go ahead and keep the file and repost it at your leisure. The image is a hit.

Wow

I wouldn't call it that, just real world. Cloud has created yet another dream world at the end of Rebirth lole

You can just call them timelines anon. We're all friends here meant to support each other. We don't make judgements.

Who's doing the dreaming? Zack? The lifestream itself? Can it project and create reality? What if the entire game is a lifestream dream?

Reminder there are 2 Aeriths in the ending

It's okay it happens to the best of us. I can't accept your apology though because while your response did not upset me it has hurt me a little.

have no fears, we got dream worlds for years...

what if... Aerith came back as a robot?

What if... Cid goes to space again?

What if... Sepiroth somehow returns?

What if... Jenova isn't really dead again?

What if... Tifa became a diplomat?

Do-do-dooo do-do do-do-do-dooo

what if Cloud came to the real world and became a fashion model

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>What if... Sepiroth somehow returns?

Woah, sign me up for another ten years.
As someone who understands the original FF7, I'll understand the reason behind this creative decision (it's not money)

Should have been a duology, the OG game doesn't have enough for a trilogy worth of stretching content.

Also if they had said it was a reimagining from the get-go instead of a bait and switch "remake" I think people would have picked up the second game and it would have been okay, save for the PS5 only problems.
To be honest, bait and switching in a trilogy of games in the very first one is just...retarded I guess? Exceedingly foolish? You'll get the money from the first game sure but the second and third are fucked after that, doing it in the third game would mean you already have the money and would get away with it.

It's really fucking weird how they handled this.

Are the 2 remakes worth it? Are they linear or can I break the game by going to some side areas first

Jimbo is so pissed off that it wasnt a multiverse that he had to make a meme out of it
Now his annoyances and entire existence arent justified
Poor guy

were those red officers always supposed to be women?

okay but why he naked

Are the 2 remakes worth it?

Nah
Who?

The level of shitposting in this thread is so strange.
Its very obvious and also persistent.
Why keep doing the bit when you aren't really baiting anyone, because your style is so obvious and awkward? Why not be slightly beliveable?
I'd ask in /ffg/ since you do the same shit there, but clearly you are very busy here now.

Saving this for reposting now that I know it angers someone here

This was a nerve toucher. Making a note of that for later.

Remake is a linear game, with most of the sidequests being situated in a handful of chapters.
Rebirth is still linear, but the overworld is wide open and sidequests and activities are accessible at any time once you've visited an area.
So they are built fairly differently, but the arc of the game is still linear.

Sounds pretty bad

owarida

if you don't like the slop demakes ur a shitposter!!!

Complains about things being unclear at the end of a 2nd part of a trilogy

The complains come from OG fans

The same OG that was supposed to be a full package

The same OG that left you confused about what the fuck the black materia is or where it came from and how Sephiroth did what he did and whether him or Jenova was in control (And no that was no intentional confusion. If it were, there wouldn't have been a definitive answer shortly after in the Ultimania)

Then there is the whole shit at the end, like what the fuck even is Bizarro and Safer Sephiroth, what is the area you fight him in, or rather, is the whole fight just an illusion/a dream or just Supernova? Anyhow, the same people that suck this off and defend it now apparently hate dream worlds

Oh and too much busywork for completionists, right? Because grinding the same enemies over and over to reach level 99 in the same amount of time it takes to do everything in Rebirth to reach was so fun, right? Fuck off
As you can see, all and every criticism of the ReTrilogy by OGfags can be completely dismissed, it's worth nothing

Not specified but in the OG on the 2nd reactor bombing mission Jessie, Biggs and Wedge don disguises and Jessie's disguise was the red officer model. Wedge's was the far kid with yellow shiet and blue over alls and Biggs' civilian gentleman with fedora

Don't worry, it's working on the only person it's intended for. I don't want to annoy anyone else. You can just ignore it.

Sad. Nothing will dethrone 12 for me I guess.

They've had years and they still haven't come up with a single valid criticism for these games

Also the officer in Junon with 2 grunts you do the parade with has the grunts call the officer in red "Sir"

Japan is finicky about pronouns, so it could be a translation thing.

Even as a kid, I felt that the red officers looked girly, but thought nothing of it. Then remake has the most prominent Red Office be a lady, and i wonder if it's supposed to be all of them?

Based

Um sweetie the junon red officer was in men's changing room watching Cloud to change in his uniform. If the officer was woman, she would never get married after having spent time in men's locker room watching guys change

Vincent? He just reverted from his giant Galian Beast transformation

With patrician taste like that these sloppa games are bound to let you down. They are just gruel for the FF7 piggies.

That's an accurate description. Every few years they need to feed the ffvii crowd. Doesn't matter if it's shit just give them anything. No wonder kitase is already confirming there will be spinoffs forever.

Imagine how hard Tifa must have been hit when Cloud kept talking about how it's been 5 years instead of 7.
Not only is it wrong, but instead of their touching promise moment he's reminding her of the death of her father and village, and she doesn't yet know why.
Tifa's decision to not confront him on it is one of the most interesting parts of her story that I think either gets handwaved as "well she had no other choice" or "she was maliciously manipulating him" and the truth is far more ambiguous than that.
She didn't really have any good options, she didn't have any evidence, she didn't know how he'd react, but also it's very clear she cares about him and was wanted him close to watch over him.
Remember, she found him incoherently babbling in the gutter which he basically didn't acknowledge, refused to go into any detail about, and talking about things he shouldn't have known because he wasn't there to her knowledge.
Its one of the most interesting conflicts of the game, for me.

The point of Aerith and Cloud's relationship is to forgive yourself and let go of your past burdens into a more positive outlook on life.

Let's be honest they just wanted cool lookings things in FF7 in 1997. They never even considered that it would have to hold up to any higher standards or that video games would ever become a normie hobby let alone the biggest entertainment medium.
FF7 had hints of dream worlds existing but why of all things they focussed so much on that is beyond me but other than that, these games have done nothing but improve shallow characters (again, normal in '97) by giving them at the least 1000% more opportunities to establish their personalities by actually having them interact with each other a lot.

I like the music. the rest ranges from mind numbingly boring to okay.

hahaha nice

Laughing at your own simpsons boomeredits

I prefer the original

I know this is poorly-written bait banged out to snatch a quick couple (You)s but genuinely why did you bother with this

Both are good. The original caused someone to start saying dreamworlds instead, and now he's mad about the new version. Looking forward to what the next cope will be.

We're having fun, stop taking everything so personally. Also the biggest 7r fans are in their 40s, so good luck with the boomer angle

Final Fantasy VII came out in 1997

is Tifa a Stacey or just an incel fantasy girl?

Shut up

Not stacey at all. She's tomboyish, as she worked as mountain guide in Nibelheim, practiced martial arts and ran her bakery and bar in Midgar. She also had homely girl qualities oracticing piano and taking care of kids. I could say she's incel man's fantasy Mary Sue

I'm 40 and played OG in 90s and Remake and Rebirth day 1 on their launches. Will be buying part 3 day 1 too

I'm in my early 30s and found out today that the guy who has been seething about me for years is in his 40s. I hope he doesn't have a heart attack because of me someday. For his own sake he needs to chill.

I doubt you are important enough for anyone to seethe about

Oh trust me, there's been seethe about me. But it's 99% from one guy, so you're right.

Same except 38 so still young

why does Tifa look like an asian woman but with boobs?

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Why not

Asian women don't have boobs??

I wouldn't call her a Stacy at all. Doesn't that kind of imply she's a pretty popular bitch?
She's literally the only girl we see in Nibelheim, at least in the original.
I don't think that's even an environment where a girl could be a Stacey.
In Midgar, she still has men with obvious interest in her, but she doesn't exploit that or anything.
I don't think she fits the stereotype.
She's certainly a fantasy girl, waiting patiently for the awkward loner to return to her safe embrace, big tits, home-cooked meals, willing to sacrifice for you at the drop of a hat.
I think a lot of the debate of Best Girl in VII is built on an obvious misunderstanding of the actual characters, which is to some degree intentional misdirection, but it persists to this day even among people who have presumably played the games thoroughly.

Trying to beat RoTOW and round 3 gets me everytime, can you survive Divine Punishment if you've already used your reprieve to recover from Zantetsuken? Someone said you're suppose to destroy the light pillars to negate some damage but I never seem to have enough time to break even one of those, casting manawall probably wouldn't hurt.

Asian game. Like with anime white people think anime characters are white people stylized but then it's revealed they represent japanese people stylized

she had sex with Johnny

not naturally, no

Nope. Even if you refer to the memed scene in Costa del Sol, Johnny is engaged and his fiancee is in the bathroom next to the room having a shower

Knew that millenial Sephiroth fangirl that made FF animated music videos

Randomly stumble upon her channel 10+ years later

She is still making them

Damn lol
Female autism is real too

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In the five years following the original release of Final Fantasy VII, we got FF8, FF9, and FF10.

So no.

bro I found one on twitter that's been making mods and holy shit it's turbo autism

Where the fuck have you been? Japanese women, which is the "Asian" type Tifa is clearly based on, have had boobs for decades now.

in terms of looks, Tifa is a 10/10 giga-stacey. There is a 0% chance she hasnt had sex yet.

Why does this look familiar?

No she didn't. This is the dumbest fucking shit.
Johnny has always been portrayed as a total simp Tifa is nice to but not interested in. They ramped this up a shitload in Remake/Rebirth, but he's still at it in Compilation when he damages his own business because he can't shut up about how great Tifa is.
The only evidence of this is people taking a scene of them talking and assuming it must be a sex thing.
There are hardcore Tifa haters who claim she had sex with a random innkeeper too. There's even less evidence for that, but they say it like it's in the game.

Aerith ball

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Ignore the punching aspect, and she's the demure asian housewife fantasy. she's very passive and aside from a few tiny plot beats her entire character revolves around Cloud, interacting with Cloud, and thinking about Cloud, worrying about Cloud, etc. She has almost no agency outside of Cloud. The one exception is joining AVALANCHE and starting a bar, but those happen pre-game, and are off screen so functionally don't matter and they're only there so she can interact with Cloud from a writing standpoint anyways and are quickly abandoned.

A perfect woman doting on you is a male fantasy.

That's always a sign of a crazy bitch. Often they troon out.

I am going for 100% and found zero trouble. It's nice and not like other japanese games where they ask you to collect 1000 things

Anything you haven't enjoyed about it? I know some people who started going for 100% but gave up

A lot of people claim Aerith was the only woman in the first draft.
The truth is more likely that the characters we know as Aerith and Tifa were split from the single character that existed originally. She was called Aerith but used Tifa's design.
When it was decided Aerith was going to die, Tifa became the woman who would be by Cloud's side.
She was created for and serves that purpose in game, for sure.

A perfect woman doting on you is a male fantasy

it isnt a normal male fantasy, its just an incel fantasy. real men (chads) only care about sex.

Hard mode repeats the game for both. For Rebirth it's shorter because fast travel. For Remake you do just run it again.

For completionists, Final Fantasy 700 hours of minigames : Rebirth will keep you plenty busy.

I really like both remake and rebirth, despite some obvious issues.
The combat system feels like a good modernization of classic ATB with more action focus. The characters are great, best versions since the original. Not the biggest fan of some of the aesthetic changes but thats more on advent children than anything, that movie has really redefined the look and feel FF7.
I even like most of the story changes, the whispers and timeline fuckery are honestly both pretty in line with the spiritual aspects of the OG, the lifestream can be literally what you want to be.
The only truly bad thing is the obvious padding in remake, which felt like it was desperately trying to justify its existance as a seperate game. I think people wouldve been happier if its "only" around 25-30 hours but has less slow walking/backtracking. Rebirth is pretty fantastic all around though, if only the open world was more dynamic.

I wish the battles were a bit harder or they would've allowed to use the real max difficulty from the start. And more side missions would've been nice. Going for 100% I'm at now 65 hours and just reached cosmo canyon taking it slow since I can play only 1 day a week due to work.

Not really. Normal men enjoy love and companionship too, not just sex.

Any FF9 fans here?
I remember vaguely that when Zidane & crews first reach lindblum, I saw amarant in the pub sitting on the counter seat.
But when I search online, or try playing the game again, I couldn't find him at all.

I just want to know if anybody know about this.

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try the battle simulator brutal stuff

get fucking destroyed

look up online for advice

seems most just all go for the same builds of spamming petrify, time stop or yuffie spamming brumal form to generate atb

Will to do these, dwindling.

twitter broke your mind

Yeah. That’s not a thing.

A lot of people claim Aerith was the only woman in the first draft.

The truth is more likely that the characters we know as Aerith and Tifa were split from the single character that existed originally.

It's Shinji, Asuka, and Rei. You can see a LOT of Eva influence in FF7, and having Eva be so huge would have given them the okay to show Cloud in a catatonic state and going through an inner world crisis. Shinji has two love interests and there's never any closure on either, and one of them dies. Then the two living ones get thrown into a liquid lifeforce world to deal with their relationship and relive moments from their past. Oh and Sephiroth and Jewish theology.

Sound familliar? Eva is pretty schizo, and FF7 makes the world a bit more coherent. The lifestream is around all the time rather than being something at the apocalypse. Cloud is now a cool guy with a sword rather than the wimp Shinji. Tifa is NICE rather than bitch girl Asuka. Rei turns into Aerith, and is another warm motherly figure rather than a cold autist.

Nah, it's not because of the comic.
Although I won't trust my memory either, because I was a child, and I remembered waking up in the midnight to play it, and discovered it.

shit game for girls

Maybe you got 1 in million personalized copy

After subtxt video it is clear the big minority losing their shit over the story and themes doesnt understand story telling

Elaborate

Anon is gay and keeps looking at all the guys.

It happens, you misremember stuff, maybe even dreamt it. I had this memory of accessing this bottom part of Treno where the nobles stand, only to replay the game years later and discovering that it's impossible.

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5 from the release, 10 years from the announcement. I hope Square just goes bankrupt at this point

Aaah, i thought he meant the game is shit for not catering for girl players

you are probably confusing with the flashback of amarant trying to stop zidane in treno

It took a lot of research, but it turns out everyone who criticized the writing just doesn't understand what the creators are doing, or storytelling in general. Everyone who likes the games so far are 100% vindicated, and are looking forward to enjoying whatever SE do in the final part.

Anyone who doesn't like the story is just admitting they don't understand it, and lack media literacy.

everyone with a criticism is wrong and stupid

everyone who loves the game and whatever happens is right and also intelligent

Exactly. I didn't quite know how to put it into words but that video perfectly summed up my thoughts.

did you watch it, jimbo? dont worry, its not a "THIS BAD THING IS GOOD ACTUALLY" or just schizo shit for 5 hours like sleepzi
Its actually a really good video and the only thing you should watch about remake

lol is this satire?

I liked Remake, still listen to the soundtrack on a regular basis

I actually feel bad for anyone who even considers criticizing the plot of remake in a post subtxt video essay world.

Did I say anything that differs from your actual position

Yeah, Jimbo's been doing it daily ever since Remake launched. So 5 years now.

Dude, even Max acknowledged its importance. Max.
Honestly the video should play after the Rebirth credits to shut critics down before they even start whining.

Sore spot noted

This image saves me the hours I could have wasted watching YouTube videos explaining videogames to me

yeah, actually

but it turns out everyone who criticized the writing just doesn't understand what the creators are doing, or storytelling in general

I mean, yeah if you consider the usual opinions here. They outright dismiss anything the remake/rebirth wants to do and put their own headcanons in it.

Everyone who likes the games so far are 100% vindicated, and are looking forward to enjoying whatever SE do in the final part.

Eh. that "100%" feels kinda falseflaggie, jimbo. I know you are trying to do a "everyone everything" type of argument but it doesnt work that way.
Same with

Anyone who doesn't like the story is just admitting they don't understand it, and lack media literacy.

Same thing. Anyone, everyone, everything. Too falseflaggish.

i know you feel called out like hes saying "your negative opinions are shit", but hes not. Take a deep breath and actually watch it.

Who the fuck is Jimbo?

I'm sorry, the use of "every" breaks your "objectivity" rules, and I know how important those are to you. I'll just say most from now on.

How's this:
Everyone who criticized the writing just doesn't understand what the creators are doing, or storytelling in general. (This part is okay because we can say every critic is wrong)
Most people who likes the games so far are 100% vindicated, and are looking forward to enjoying whatever SE do in the final part.

Most people who doesn't like the story is just admitting they don't understand it, and lack media literacy.

Now, how far is that from your opinion?

He's well known. Infamous, even.

5 years of daily shitposting and still fewer than 5 people even know who he is...

A guy who's been shitting FF7R threads daily for 5 years now. He's current narrative is that he doesn't hate the remake nor rebirth, he just hates anons discussing them

It's been 5 years and you still make hourly threads on this.

I wonder what it is about him that made one guy completely obsessed when literally thousands of others took no notice at all. Must be a personal grudge.

he just hates anons discussing them

Oh anon...

5 years.

its taking 7 years to finish a game that came out completed almost 30 years ago

I will never play this garbage. They gave away the first part of the remake trilogy for free and i didn't even claim it.

I think i would just settle with a "most people here (here meaning Anon Babble since in the outside world people arent THIS obtuse) didnt really get or wanted to get whats the story is about". I dont know if thats players stubbornness or SE incompetence, but considering i came up with 80% of the video content on my own (i was the one that said the train graveyard chapter isnt just about getting to sector 7, but to show aerith connection with the lifestream/afterlife and her beliefs, years ago, while the others were like "nuh uh, its just filler"), i would be more inclined to player stubbornness.

Better to be the guy having fun instead of the guy being made fun of and being angry and upset

Is it possible for a 1:1 remake at this point?
Do they even bundle og with any of the other FF games?

First thread ive made about FF7 ever. Take your meds schizo.

Is it possible for a 1:1 remake at this point?

No. Best you can hope for is that other remakes will be.

Final Fantasy 7 Ever Crisis is free

What I don't understand about the video is it makes it seem like LOTS of people took issue with the story in the remake games. I was told for years that the only place anyone took issue with these games were on Anon Babble, and that it was all coming from a vocal minority who hadn't even played the games.

Maybe in 2097 on the 100th anniversary theyll do a 1:1 remake.

Is the steam port of OG worth it?
I'm fine with just using my PSP/Duckstation.

VII and VIII were bundled together on Switch, yeah.
I don't think they'll remake the original, that'd be fucking confusing.
Ever Crisis the shitty gacha, is kind of weird mishmash of original and Remake. They use elements of the original like scenarios, and camera angles and shit, but I gather sometimes it's remake dialogue or something instead.
I don't know, I dropped it after the shitty beta.

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Are you saying no one else outside of Anon Babble hated the time janny nomura slop? bullshit lmao

So you aren't going to say is far from your actual opinion? It certainly doesn't seem to be.

Don't do it, you will have to replay the whole game on hard again and do every single sidequest for the second time to unlock the hard mode manuscripts, it will never end.

The PC version doesnt add anything but fast forward and easier way to cheat in money and fill limit gauges

It's fine, it has a few nice mods you can use for it as well.

Everyone who criticized the writing just doesn't understand what the creators are doing, or storytelling in general.
Most people who likes the games so far are 100% vindicated, and are looking forward to enjoying whatever SE do in the final part, because they understand the intent of the writers.

Most people who doesn't like the story are just admitting they don't understand it due to their stubbornness and lack media literacy.

There we go, perfect.

no

What I don't understand about the video is it makes it seem like LOTS of people took issue with the story in the remake games

I dont think the problem is people getting angry at the remake story, but people getting angry for the wrong reasons.
The same thing happened with metaphor. The game is about the impossibility of utopia but even then we should keep that fantasy alive, yet people get angry because its "woke" because lots of races and sometimes they mention "diversity".

well chucks i think i broke you with See the video. It might calm your rage. Its not insulting you, i promise.

Jessie is cute, Tifa is cute,, Aerith is cute. How the fuck am I supposed to choose?

You either learn to perfect block and dodge every single attack in the game or you use a cheese build, it's brutal and legendary alright.

This is not true. You just need planning and learn the characters. I beat all challenges just using my own builds and playstyles. Its just about learning how the enemies work. Which one exactly fucks you up?

but people getting angry for the wrong reasons.

What would be a right reason then?

Rulers of the outer worlds, you can get through the first 2 rounds by absorbing fire damage but after that you gotta be on your shit with perfect blocks and dodges or you'll get wiped instantly.

The game chooses for you

I just gave up when I saw enemies just tear off like 1/3 of your HP in one hit.
Personally, I think difficulty should come in new move sets or enemies, not stat bloat.

Jessie and Tifa are peak waifu material.

They do get new moves

We'll never know...

for the phoenix fight, elemental fire on armor or that shit is unbearable
use elemental weakness magic to pressure kujata if he gets the glyphs. You can stop the glyphs if you use strong attacks when hes about to cast it and ram it (he stumbles and the glyphs break, giving you more time, double -agas, bravers, and other strong attacks work). Once you beat kujata, you can kill phoenix and it has low HP so it can be done easily. Limits and synergies help to keep them in place.

For the titan fight, kill titan first. His shield is very resistant normally, but if you dodge his unblockables and you hit him after, he stumbles and shield gets really weak. Once he gets pressured, both get pressured so use this to stagger and kill him. Hopefully in one stagger but if you dont, its not the end of the world but focus titan first, magic works wonders.

For the odin fight, just hit odin until he fucks off. Once you do, focus on alexander and stagger him. You HAVE to kill alexander in one stagger otherwise he uses his summon attack and odin comes back.

For gilgamesh, i dont have too much to say other than use firaga's, try to perfect block to take his weapons away, and use dispel for the buffs.

For sephiroth, yes, perfect block sadly it is needed, try to punisher counter with cloud normally, and get atb, and pay attention to shadowy chains to perfect block with whoever he gets. Once he gets to second phase, hes piss easy

I know this sound pretty vague, but you need to learn how to play and deal damage. Remember to use synergy abilities/skills, the charged attacks with cloud work really well. Save limits and synergy abilities not for stagger, but to hold the enemy down. Upgrade your limit levels since ascension or lvl 2 limits in general are FAR stronger than lvl 1. Also have one character be the sustain. I like red xiii since vengeance mode is great and i can save one magnify with lunatic high. Barret works well too. Walls + all work great ALWAYS.