GGG makes an isometric Souls-like ARPG that is actually fun and not brainless gookclick Diabloslop

soulslike does not work when you have 6 million enemies coming at you at the same time
and thats exactly what the endgame is
i played a monk and none of the more interesting abilities works in endgame.
there's exactly 3 quarterstaff abilities that's viable endgame, ice strike/tempest flurry/shock wave

soulslike does not work when you have 6 million enemies coming at you

Yes it does

GGG giga-sidelined poe1

I'm so sorry for your casino addiction simulator with gook mmo combat

all this effort when you could just press 1 and attack them

This games giant maps just bore the hell out of me who the fuck game up with that shit

PoE1 babies are just the worst. They whine and cry and shit themselves if they can't have their autism box, where you zoom all over the map and can one shot the whole screen.

thats not endgame

No matter how shit poe2 is doing subhuman chinks are on here defending it 24/7

My only problem with this game is that loot fucking sucks

When they could instead fuck off and play PoE1 instead, or any other game

update the game then, Jon

PoE2 is dogshit, it wishes it was just as bad as D4. Unironically one of the worst games ever made, there is not a single thing that was done right.

god this looks so fucking boring
and i bet he had to grind 100 hours just to get that boring ass gameplay

even before any updates the game slowly devolves into poe1 the closer your character gets to unlocking maps

this game's biggest crime is all of the good gameplay takes place in act 1 normal then quckly gets power crept away until you may as well uninstall then boot up poe1 again

i accept your concession and apology

loot is more strongly tied to your rarity find in 0.2, I didn't start seeing decent drops until I hit 70% and now that I am at 175% it's gotten way better

that is actually fun

LOL

filtered and seething this much

>soulslike does not work when you have 6 million enemies coming at you

Yes it does

No one cares about DS2 fag

upgrad rarity find

find good loot

equip good loot, raritfy find goes down

hinder your chances of good loot again

such a dumb mechanic

The loot is garbage retard, once you get to the point where every second drop is a unique there's no fucking point in picking them up.

all the people complaining are losers who were hard woke from their thousands of hours of sleepy PoE seasonal slop. abusing mindless cookie cutter builds where you blow through 90% of the content in days, all so you can 3-click farm maps for a month then not touch the game again until next season. guy with 2k hours in the first game just wants poe 1.5 so he can pick up where he left off, not something actually new.

I only have 220 hours in both games and I definitely prefer PoE2 over its predecessor, one of those reasons being the boss fights, the other the fact that it doesn't have two billion league mechanics yet.

abusing mindless cookie cutter builds where you blow through 90% of the content in days

THE CONTENT CAME OUT MONTHS AGO EVERYONE HAS ALREADY DONE IT IT IS LITERALLY IDENTICAL TO POE1

now you can do the same thing without movement abilities and in larger maps!

mindlessly

Yeah, they must like making money or something. What mindless retards. Not like the enlightened you.

like you know anything

brainless gookclick Diabloslop

When did Diablo or specifically the original Diablo franchise became a topic of insult?

advertise game as poe but with better graphics

release some rollslop abomination

people are not happy

gee I wonder why

This. Ultimately it all comes down to money. Money talks, being a lonely bitter neet raving on the internet doesn't.

HOLY FILTERED

I accept your concession

he admits getting filtered

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

i wonder if you retards even realize that souls combat is shit.. probably not

This looks really fun.

it isn't fun
showcasing a dogshit build which makes the game look way more methodical than it actually is against the only well designed boss in the game isn't indicative of the real gameplay

isometric Souls-like ARPG

hits bong

what if we made souls even worse for no fucking reason

dodge roll means it's... LE SOULSLIKE

It's the same lootslop as the rest of them.

Then they should stop copying Elden Ring and copy Ninja Gaiden or Devil May Cry instead. Also that clip is disingenuous as fuck, you can't do stuff like that when you have a pack of super fast monsters that don't stagger with each attack.

did they turn the combat into lost ark's? sounds fun if the grind and loot isnt awful

people are always harsh towards GGG because they're one of the few big developers out there who actually care about their product and actively listen to their community. that's what PoE so big in the first place. they still have most of their original fanbase who have been playing for 13+ years. the problem is that people become overly obsessed and fearful of the game turning to shit, so everyone is constantly dooming out of fear that the game is finally dying/declining after such a long period of success and greatness. imagine playing a game for 13 years only to see it turn to shit. people fear it so much.

but yea the game is fine and will become fucking amazing as the content patches start rolling in over the years. just like happened with poe1.

Although i have major issues with this patch, Anon Babble is just reddit 2.0

They all wanna play brainless gacha slop where they jingle tits infront of your face or baby tendie trash. Anon Babble will pretend they are hardcore and make fun of ubishit and sony movie games but will poay yakuza and FFXIV which is the same casualized movie shit

The moment Anon Babble gets challenged by a game like PoE 2, Elden Ring, Doom Eternal, MH Iceborne fatalis/alatreon etc suddenly Anon Babble starts having a tantrum of MUHHH GAME IS TOO HARD WAAAAAHHHHHHHH. This place is just a braindead casual coomer/politics board that likes gachatrash/tendietrash and nothing more

I legit prefer that type of gameplay, but they changed the gameplay without changing anything else.

It's a "middle ground" situation that doesn't work, either go full hack'n-slash, or go top-down twin-stick-shooter-with-rolls.

I am a hoper in poe2, but how the fuck can I hope when the servers are CONSTANTLY SHITTING THEMSELVES not to mention a rollback now and then, so much for casual session after work

2pbp

now swing that hammer

From the beginning, when it was a shitty baldu's Gate for casual retards

The problem is that Jonathan himself doesn't really want you to do stuff like that because in his head you should always be struggling to kill stuff. Also they don't want to outright abandon the POE1 crowd so we get this weird limbo where both sides are unsatisfied with the current state of the game.
I also would much prefer if all classes played like that webm and that we had a full kit of skills at level 5, but with the way the game works it doesn't really get fun until you're deep in act 3, mobs also make it too hard to do cool combos because you're constantly rushed down, so you either nuke the screen or get killed before you can finish a full combo.
The devs just need to decide already what type of game they want to do and stick to it, also add the rest of the classes already instead of drip feeding us one by one every 4 months, I seriously doubt we'll hit 1.0 in just one year like it was said.

didn't read any of this but the webm looks miserable

how do poetrannies cope with this gameplay?

how do poetrannies cope with this gameplay?

Anon...that's OP point.

Played till T15, GGG hard nerfed the monsters and bosses around the time I was T1 in the endgame. The game was never the same. I quit yesterday because I was killing everything on 6 div budget. Res cap, 60k DPS (117k for 8 secs when I crit, which is extremely likely), 35% movement speed boots, 85% evasion. I became a God in 2 days of endgame. My DPS in the first day of endgame straight out of campaign was 6.3k. The next day it was 33k, the after that - 60k. I lost all will to play. This game is too easy and is made for the triple vaxxed 85 IQ redditards who play with their monitors turned off. This game should never become D4 or PoE. We need meaningful and skilled combat, but they dumb down everything at every possible opportunity. Gradually I began to hate them.

I'm not reading anything on this website that is longer than 3 sentences and i'm not sorry.

>GGG makes an isometric Souls-like ARPG that is actually fun

When did Diablo or specifically the original Diablo franchise became a topic of insult

Diablo 3 release

RMAH

femme Diablo

killed Deckard Cain

terrible writing

number bloat gameplay began

blizzard quickly dropped it when they couldn't milk it with the rmah

tradies trade for op gear and use an op meta build

oh no the game is too easy

I knew this shit was going to happen, they are making the same mistakes they made with PoE1

I was playing crit Deadeye when everyone else was following the Noobgun build. It's not my fault that everyone else is stupid and can't itemize or spec a tree to save their lives. I would happily play SSD, but as of today the crafting system is absolutely horrible and simply doesn't work. Maybe in a season or two they will improve it. I still have a hope for the game for better or worse. It could become my favorite game of all time, but GGG should spend less time listening to redditards. Those subhumans started the game at the same time as me and were still complaining about the Count in Act 1, when I was already blasting through the endgame. They deserve the rope and nothing else. This would greatly improve the genetic pool in the long run.

diablo is shit

poe is shit

Do you people even enjoy these types of games? All I ever hear is complaining.

is shit

Why?

I shall pirate it once it's out of EA but I don't expect much out of it

oh wow I can't wait for the boss to slowly raise his weapon up in the air to signal a big attack that I need to dodge!

There it is! Time to press the roll button!

*rolls*

Fuck yeah that took so much skill... I am a godgamer

it is boring and predictable. every boss is like this

What the fuck you have to react to the boss's attacks?!

develop a game

the 'problem' arises

years of iteration and gamedev time

it's finally fixed or at least in a good enough state

time passes

decide to make a sequel

repeat the EXACT SAME FUCKING mistakes you made with the first game exactly 1-to-1

players are rightfully furious

act confused as if it wasn't preventable

the only question is - who is responsible for such development? is it chris willson? jonathan rodgers? mark roberts? tencent? is this plain stupidity or industrial sabotage?
we'll never know, most likely

yeah around 75 times because you do so little damage

Sounds like someone couldn't finish the tutorial boss

nah i could barely finish act 2
and then when i was dumped in the indian jungle in act 3 I finally realized what sloppa it was and uninstalled

What's the 'problem' in your opinion an when did it arise?

an isometric Souls-like ARPG

No one asked for it, drops are non-fucking existent, soulsloppers kys.
Not to mention No Rest For The Wicked came out earlier.

>act confused as if it wasn't preventable

you're pretending Chris Wilson (bless his bald fucking head) is still director - he's not
johnathon the current mouthpiece of GGG and his squad of cronies are the ones in charge of poe2, and specifically they're the reason i have no interest in playing the game

no chris no buy
simple as

but it's free to play..

LOL

Don't bother asking, there's no pleasing these people.

game is too easy

game is too hard

game has too much loot

game doesn't loot enough

numbers too high

why am I doing shit damage? I should be doing a gazillion damage

there's no pleasing these people.

it's not about people-pleasing, it's about principle
these giant pussies in the current head of development constantly bend the knee and capitulate to the demands of retards squabbling over desired changes instead of just making their fucking game without the behest of thirdies and manchildren

they're poisoning their own well by taking a wholesome chungus approach to gamedev by 'listening to the fans' - that's the issue, and always has been

people uninstall and stop playing a game where a boss takes over 30 minutes to kill because you do so little damage and it has way too much HP

I am no genius super smart game dev but if your playerbase are known for having autism/ADHD and spend 14 hours per day zooming through maps and exploding monsters... then maybe just maybe they will not like having to roll around for 30+ minute on a boss that will give them nothing.

But what do I know, I am not a cool game dev that is a tranny.

and here is a blizzdrone who thinks that devs know better.
go eat more shit you fucking faggot

Doing this once in a while is fine.
Doing this when I have to grind 1000 hours repeatedly for some currency is fucking brain dead.
No one give a shit about your dog ass gameplay when I'm autobombing and jacking off on the 2nd monitor and if you don't let me autobomb when grinding I'm deleting your game and calling you a nigger.

GGG makes an isometric Souls-like ARPG that is actually fun

No they didn't, and that is why they got shat on. Jonathan in his arrogancy tries his hardest to please both poe1 zoomzooms and casuals soulsloppers they pulled in with their marketing, which ends up aggravating both side because you can't fucking marry both concepts no matter how hard you try. Worse thing still, niGGGers refuse to budge on loot and trading.

only plays games to fit into some cheap make-believe tribe and family substitute; treats the game like a job, whinges about "wasting time" and "efficacy" in something he chose to engage in

only plays "popular" games and forces himself to like them, doesn't understand that he becomes a cog in the astroturfing apparatus

all his criticism of soulful niche games always boils down to "[game] is not like [popular game]"; destroys the niche and bullies developers -- acts like and becomes a sub-human locaust

all his criticsm of soulless popular games always boils down to the latest corpo-crowdsourced superficial controversy; ignores all else (assetflipping, predatory and deceptive marketing, cancerous MTX, ...) and doles out unconditional praise otherwise -- acts like and becomes a sub-human dungbeetle

dumps a fortune into modern turbo-slop, is oblivious about himself incentivizing corporate to churn out more turbo-slop; replaces his hobby with mindless consumption, wonders why he's burned out and broke

(...)

A tale as old as time.

there is nothing wrong with enjoying diablo 2, die mad pussy

you can use all of these: and more!

shit layouts

boring crafting

useless pointless chores like flask well

atrocious UI

couple popular ones my stoned brain can remember
not a poe2 player so I don't actually know
I'm sticking to poe1 since my boywife shadow is in there

Lmao Blizzard it's perhaps the biggest offender of listening to the vocal minority and running their game

You cannot even comprehend that I was talking about PoE, really tells me everything I need to know

shit layouts

I used to think Vaal City was bad
Then I played PoE2 and every map is a Vaal City out there...
Some are multiple Vaal Cities linked together (act 3 lol)

i like poe2 its just a bitch sometimes

?
all of those were problems in poe as well, and if you think otherwise you're either new or disingenuous

there is such a thing as making unintended truths without being misconstrued

niGGGer shill thread

!

You're straight up retarded, I sincerely hope you're stoned your of your mind

typical niGGGer schizo post

elaborate or apologize on your knees with forehead touching the floor

No

I kind of agree. I'd say the outrage was mostly hyperbole, shit streamers losing their minds while they weren't even doing the basic game mechanics correctly. They were playing badly optimized builds and having meltdowns and blamed the game for it as if they knew everything about the game.

abusing mindless cookie cutter builds

That's pretty funny when you can make pretty much every skill work in current PoE 1 and PoE 2 skill balance is so shit that you basically need to use one of three GGG approved skills to be viable endgame.

you can make pretty much every skill work in current PoE 1

this is a bad faith argument because it always devolves into the same "it works with 20 mirrors investment" logic
at that point your choice of enemy-click is largely cosmetic - you could say the exact same thing for poe2 if it had a decade of featurecreep packed under its itemization

Being tough and slow works for a Soulslike that you play through like maximum 5 times
It doesn't work for an ARPG that expects you to play through the campaign multiple times a season

that is actually fun and not brainless gookclick Diabloslop

Webm unrelated?

I like Soulslike combat. I very much appreciate PoE 2 slower pace and not zoom-zoom ADHD gameplay PoE 1 has.

HOWEVER
Barely any items drops, the maps are fucking huge, every fight feels the same and my minion build I've picked for this league FUCKING SUCKS ASSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

"it works with 20 mirrors investment"

I see you didn't even play last league.

Since you're making bait threads by spamming my webms and copying the filenames you might as well take some more to work with bot-anon, here you go god speed

I very much appreciate PoE 2 slower pace and not zoom-zoom ADHD gameplay PoE 1 has.

The pace is only slower because of slower movement speed and large maps. The actual pace of combat still devolves into aoe screen clearing pretty much straight away

it turns out people actually fucking hate rollslop

whoa who couldve thought.

Diablo 2 remains king.

fast is bad

me want slow

ADHD! AHDH! AHDHAHD

ADHD doesnt exist, you just fucking suck at video games.

So is PoE2 like Lost Ark?

Button mashing is never cool and only dumb zoomers think it is. There's a reason Soulslike became a genre.

Diablo 2 remains king.

At this rate we're never getting another arpg that gets it

Lost Ark still has the best combat of any arpg, pity it is stuck with korean raidfags for devs.

It's artificial difficulty.
I shouldn't be doing 20% of a white mobs hp with my fireball.
Or 1% of a bosses with fireball.
It's not hard. It's just tedious.
And that's with demonform which gives +4 skill and 100% spell damage.

that's just because fire spells are all bad and unbalanced

It's been like 5 months.

nothing about this is like a souls game, are you retards calling it that because you can roll?

button mashing is extremely super fucking cool and its the best way to play video games.

NO I WANT TO HOLD "X" AND AND ROLL FROM TIME TO TIME

sorry, my skill requirements are much higher.
if i game doesnt force me to 10,000 APM, i wont bother playing it.

yeah lets just let the streamer community design the game for us

1 minute to clear a bunch of boss adds, we're hitting like 30 minute maps at this rate

10,000 actions and zero decisions per minute

youtube.com/watch?v=KQxXUGb78UY

Your pulse quickens
The Eternal impure
With bloodlust empowered
Our Ezomyr endured
But soon all were devoured
In unending war
Death waited at the door
Then hour by hour.. Men fell as summer soured

You are hunted
Fang, tooth and claw
Tortured under the moon
The pack suffered but endured
And howled now in tune
No tales were told
None new, none old
And their endless hunger... Grew ever stronger

As night falls
Winter's chill
Sought the unworthy
Through an endless night
They wither and tarry
Forsaken frosts
As cold as death
Of Beira's misery... The pack won't forget

The air grows colder
Agnar the Runed
Agnar the Impaler
As swift as death
And imbued by the moon
Cursed or gifted
Branded and afflicted
Your veins soon chilled... Agnar shall slay again

niggers like you killed gaming

oops forgot my image

kino

They didn't at all. It still plays the same as at launch just with a few less annoyances.

anon, diablo was a real time rogue-like. it was a completely different thing. only idiots were comparing it to baldur's gate. I imagine because of the perspective and the loose "rpg" label they both had

that is actually fun

stopped reading marketing retard, game was never fun it was just "new" and riding on hype of being new and potential, you manage to confuse the two much like other brainlet clowns
poe 2 has been a cataclysmic disaster in every design regard, complete and utter 100% regression in every concievable way

poe2 will not influence poe1

kill poe1

have to pay to play poe2

worse game in every way

bravo

try playing Starcraft with 10,000 APM.

too much fluoride in toothpaste, modern kids cant fucking handle things happening fast on the screen.

Why did they made the very first boss the coolest? Jamanra has a good theme but the boss itself is kinda boring, and the astec dude is just boring in every aspect so much I don't even remember his name.

High APM in SC actually means something because there are decisions to be made, but even then you are not impressing anybody by clicking the same order 50 times as you cycle groups for no reason, decisions made are more important than buttons pressed

force them to change it

How?

Reminder that these clips are an idealised vision of what the game could look like and what it actually looks like right now is just mashing 1/2 overpowered skills that do everything for you because GGG can't keep character power under control

has movespeed twink gear

Now try that with a fresh warrior without any movespeed

That's been the case on Anon Babble for years now. If you can dodge or if there's respawning enemies when you die it's a souls game

spbp

buying 10% MS boots from the vendor in Act1 isn't "twink gear" it's your first priority from the shop and everybody should be doing that on every character, also you do not need 10% MS to walk around wolves, get your shit together

kek

If its mandatory for everyone to do this, why not give it as a quest reward? Actually, why not give everyone 10% MS and make the MS mod on boots 10% lower?

we turned the game into rollslop soulslop

what do you mean people fucking hate it

youtube.com/watch?v=XfNuYh3Anss

At last! It's open! Praise the First ones!

What is this? Graves?
Isabel... Torcall.. Calum... the family of Count Lachlann of Ogham... my family...!
This doesn't make any sense! They're dead! Those bastard Eternals... I must make them pay... I must make them suffer!

I thought ARPG players liked to see their character getting stronger as they got more loot?
We all know that's the only reason they do it, the question is why late game boots with no MS even exist

sell sword MTX

no swords in the game

come to the genre that's known for killing mobs by thousands at fast pace for loot

complain that the game's "zoom-zoom" fast

idk why do you retards play those games and force to change them, they're not for you
i don't like racing games but i don't try to force my opinion on those and change because i don't like them

but muh slow combat

then play no rest for the wicked, it has slow and methodical combat, oh wait, you haven't played it and the game's dead lmao

It's ok because it was oe roguelike

It was casual slop that dumbed down CRPGs, objectively

Why not increase player damage 100x?

very true
i have not played since metamorph/harvest era because the game took a direct nosedive in player quality of life soon after

or more honestly, they nerfed eq/bow bleed + easy deterministic elder bleed crafting and that was my favorite lazy leaguestart route - i have little to no interest in learning anything else if they're just going to delete entire archetypes and strategies out of the game like that

Apology rejected. Shameful display!
Luckily for you there is a way to rectify such dishonor.

man fuck that game all I ever do in it is die to falling damage

The customer isn't always right

The customer pays though.

GGG makes an isometirc Souls-like ARPG that is actually fun and not brainless gookclick Diabloslop

Me when I lie
You haven't even played the game
The exact fucking problem is THEY DIDN'T FUCKING DO THAT YOU RETARDED MONGOLOID
No, retarded mongoloid, posting a video of the singular fucking fight that is good in the entire game doesn't prove anything, no

Nice larp pressing buttons for the sake of pressing buttons while completely ignoring even the simplest combos you can do with spears. Nobody plays like this and in the endgame you still explode entire screens with one button.

Fromsoftware saw the writing on the wall for PoE2 and GGG being cucks and made Nightreign

Time to migrate to greener pastures, PoE2GODS
youtu.be/ePLEkPg9hh8?si=CNti-tMFgtpk28Q8

Yes it does

vid not related

modern nu-gamers, however you want to call them, cant handle action and pressing buttons.
consoles made them used to holding X and watching a movie-game.

poe2 announced

spaghetti everywhere at the thought of a shiny new poe1

game comes out

rollslop

fraction of the games first content

player neutered to oblivion

who is the game meant to appeal to?

low number of enemies.

get killed with a few hits, sometimes 1 shot

roll roll roll dodge roll roll dodge dodge roll

The thing about Souls games is that most of the time you fight 1-3 enemies at once while in ARPG games you constantly fight mobs that consist of dozen enemies at the very least, which is why PoE2 is a failure and they can never fix it.

completely ignoring even the simplest combos you can do with spears

wat
The only thing he's not doing there is picking up the ignited ground with twirling spear into twister, you don't have any other relevant skill combos at that stage of the game. Parry>Disengage>Exploding spear is the meat and potatoes in act1 if you're not abusing stomping ground

soulslike grand strategy

soulslike space sim

soulslike dating sim

soulslike driving sim

Imagine.

the addition of a fucking roll button of all things to the isometric genre is still baffling to me
who the fuck wanted/asked for this? why is it there?

d2 perfected the formula decades ago and these dumb motherfuckers keep trying to put square wheels on it like it's an improvement

Elemental buffed triple whirlwind into twisters would have killed that boss in third of the time.

i don't come into arpgs for pressing multiple buttons, they never were meant for that
if i want that, imma go play ninja gaiden or nioh, because souls games are too slow and easy for me but i also liked the surge 1 and 2 for that matter

you're underestimating parry combo damage, the gear being used is clearly weak here

soulslike driving sim

Banjo Kazooie already exists

did elon like the game

GGG can't keep power under control because every time they affect progression and power levels an hoard of subhumans who should be genocided bitches and whines about everything and forces changes that result in half assed measures.

The game should have never released early access

PoE fans are so retardedly obnoxious. Holy fuck just kill yourselves.

Posts a super explotable game where you apply 12 status effect so that enemies stand idle for 10 hours

Wow, what a own

Some of the boss fights are great. And certainly not the biggest issue if they're going the souls-like ARPG route.
The main problem is that the horde of mobs you're supposed to farm did not get the update it's a new style of ARPG now.

The game was actually advertised as Poe1 but slower paced and a lower barrier of entry to new comers, but ok.

disingenuous argument that only applies on way of the nioh which is NG+++

tell me you haven't played the game without telling me

same diabloslop

but now bosses take 100x as long to kill

cool

I think they got inspired by diablo 4's dash button. I think some other arpgs also had this so they thought this dash/dodgeroll shit is popular and their game must also have it or something.

debuffs/sloth talismans etc have severe negative returns after the first NG cycle (you are intended to play through the game 2-3 times to 'fully experience' it)

you could have at least bitched about kunai / LW cheese builds instead of grasping at entry level neogaf recommendations

He thinks NG Nioh is hard

Jesus Christ dude. Do you realize that PoE2 early access bosses are more unpredictable and challenging than anything Nioh 2 has to offer?

i don't come into arpgs for pressing multiple buttons

you should, thats what they are made for.

they never were meant for that

that is exactly what they meant for.

It IS popular and it IS a good addition
The content just has to accommodate it, which means better animation work
People who are upset that they might need to press a second button instead of just holding forward and hammering the screen clearing aoe ability need to be dragged kicking and screaming back into the world of conscious thought for their own good

Not him
Like most ARPGs Nioh is only difficult at the very start of the game when you're not abusing the poorly balanced buildcraft

it wasn't dumbed down from anything, anon
it was a different experience
delve down dungeons killing monsters and collecting loot
come back to town to rest and replenish and buy gear
the only "dumbing down" would be from complicated ascii roguelike interfaces to the more streamlined point and click interface with fewer monster types and fewer variables and fewer ways to screw yourself over
and then they streamlined it even further and took it into mindless looter shit with diablo 2 and up, but that's a different discussion. probably the discussion we're having right now with poe2, but I haven't played it yet so I'm completely out of the loop

lol
lmao

poe 2 bosses

hard

I played through all of Nioh 2 with a single Odachi and it was easy as shit
Enemies are barely a step above Dark Souls 2
I finished the game and I don't even know what you are talking about

It's not a good addition, it's zoomer slop mechanic. Poe has tons of dodge abilities in the form of blinks, there's literally no need for a dedicated dodgeroll.

Reminder that zoom zoom minmax speedrun is the most tranny coded approach to video games. Also its ironic its most likely older farts who likes that gameplay.

it IS a good addition

in the short term and on paper, but
in the long term, ARPGs are games 'meant' to be played for thousands of hours - the less input actions the better, because RSI and joint degredation exists

it's hard to balance inactive gameplay like that, but the isometric genre is absolutely not the time or place for featurecreep and buttonbloat that demands constant interactivity

less is more

Titans Quest Chad's. We rise!

i didn't like nioh 2 and was regarding specifically to the first game, given the mention of kunai + LW which i don't think exists in the sequel
i forgot this is ESL hours

heterogeneous

another Diablo killer ded in the mud

Apologize.

Diablo 2 will remaing King even 20 years from now.

best art, music, and aesthetics in the entire genre

we are allowed to do whatever the fuck we want - you want to cast 30 different spells? sure! go ahead! you can hotkey whatever you want

you hate cooldowns?! OK! no cooldowns on anything! spam spells all you want!

you want to spam 9000 lightning bolts? because its fun? GO AHEAD!

love it.

poe2

roll around a boss for 1 hour

fuck off.

YOU the customer are wrong

YOU don't like what you like

you LIKE what you hate that I like

Has this pretentious strategy ever actually worked on you before? I boycott all future games of any company that tries to say that when I don't like their game.

i'm sorry your dead game has neither players nor viewers, maybe if your blizzdaddies put another $400 million into advertising and astroturfing they would have succeeded

How the fuck do you design a game when the player base considers actually needing to look at your screen to be a fail state?

You reject those players entirely because they will soon be lost to Chinese gachas

With that line of thinking the next stop for arpgs is vampire survivors kind of gameplay.

fuck off nigger

also no shit tier campaign with girlboss cutscenes

This brings the discussion to its crux. Yea it's not a mechanic for PC per se, dodgeroll makes more sense when you realize it's actually a controller thing, like the game that invented it- happened to be a console game.

Diablo 4 had that, are you saying PoE2 does too?

That's PoE1 though

the less input actions the better, because RSI and joint degredation exists

Look here you fat fuck, the health condition you should be concerned about if you don't want to actively think while playing the video game isn't RSI it's Dementia

the next stop for arpgs is vampire survivors kind of gameplay.

that's effectively been POE1 since inception if you're a fan of righteous fire roomba builds

there's a lot of stuff in poe2 which is clearly d4 inspired
like the salvage bench and disenchanting.. in poe1 you just drop these items on the floor, in poe2 you have the busywork of pressing more buttons
the well in town is a d4 thing but in d4 it's paired with checkpoints (i think? i don't play d4) so it's more useful
the entire skill gem methodology change from poe1.. skills are extremely restrictive with the weapons you can use them with and the support gems too. you basically have a set of supports for your skill and that's it. there's no depth

Diablo 2 will remaing King even 20 years from now.

>best art, music, and aesthetics in the entire genre

>we are allowed to do whatever the fuck we want - you want to cast 30 different spells? sure! go ahead! you can hotkey whatever you want

>you hate cooldowns?! OK! no cooldowns on anything! spam spells all you want!

>you want to spam 9000 lightning bolts? because its fun? GO AHEAD!

love it.

tiny little caveat: most of that will not work past normal
it definitely will not work in hell
normal is effectively the tutorial, the game doesn't start until nightmare
and then if you don't level up correctly and get decent gear, you're fucked
of course if all you want is to play in normal, what you're saying is absolutely true and it is essentially how I played it when I was a kid

That's true. Action rougelikes are the new arpg.

>GGG makes an isometric Souls-like ARPG that is actually fun and not brainless gookclick Diabloslop

they didnt, the further in you got the more it transforms into poe1, they failed those cucks

great post, you completely missed the point and attempted to both insult and anger me while doing so

posts one of the best boss fights in the game

now post white mob combat in the beginning of maps

it works in hell, if you dont play alone.

you haven't played it and the game's dead lmao

thats not the reason its dead. If anything the core combat is the only reason it has 300 players instead of 50

The reason it died is because devs put a retardly high ammounts of effort and budget on graphics/engine which resulted in not only your typical dev hell, but also every single facet of the actual gameplay beyond the core basics being put on a backseat

weapons are progressively more likely to be carelessly, randomly put together and unbalanced as you get past the tier 1 drops

special attacks are outright not made with any regards to balance, unique purposes and comparison to one another. The animators made 999 fancy animations without factoring in gameplay and just put them on runes that predominantly play like burst damage special attacks

the focus system (for casting special attacks) is fundamentally shitty even if they remove the biggest offenders, it inevitably makes the game braindead. Either you have too little focus for the game to let you have a fleshed out moveset, or you have enough move for casting 1 burst attack over and over being always the best thing you can do. No in between

the enemy visuals and animation are all good in a vacuum until you get to player tracking, enemy tracking, hitboxes (if you dont wanna rollslop), the functionality of mechanics like stagger bar, lock-on etc are all fucked

imagine making a game with millions of dollars of budget but being unable to afford to make the affixes on the 'unique' weapons actually function, or elemental damage bonuses apply properly

they werent too concerned about gameplay so just about every base mechanic has something silly about it (rolls have comically high i-frame uptime, parry spamming, backstabs about 5x easier than in ds1, etc

over 1 year for a decent content update

All this because of their graphics autism. Its killing and will kill their game

arpgs and souls don't mix. sure you can have fancy animation locks and rolling for the campaign, but the endgame shouldn't be subject to the same rules. the campaign already highlights the frustrating points of their design philosophy. end game just takes it to another level

I moost press buttons every 0.5 seconds.

This is the attention deficit zoomer mental illness that has ruined every fucking game.

poe2 is way too far of the polar opposite, endgame mapping, despite all of the LE COMPLEX combo shit is like 1 button press per 4 seconds. And most builds still just find a way to make the entire screen explode with 1 button press anyway.

yes honey its a video game its supposed to have inputs from the player.

You have no clue why people are upset you are an outsider looking in.

Please refer to this conversation: You can't even press roll every 0.5 seconds retard, the animation is longer than that fucking dumbass

Then why didn't you voiced your approvals louder to the devs? Zizaran and redditors won this round

Go play some idle game, old man. Or just PoE1. There's nothing wrong with a game trying something different. You're free to hate it because you don't like change but there's no need to make shit up

Yea it's a video game, not a trip to the attention deficit town.

NTA but I think a better implementation would to have a dedicated press X to dodge button as a signature movement/dodge ability for the class's, like a shoulder bash for Warrior or Huntress's disengage, Sorc blink.

Forcing a dedicated dodge button as a 'signature' move serves as an anchor of the class's core mechanics and I think that implementation provides a good middle ground between generic dodge roll and minmaxed movement&defense, if GGG is still adamant on their methodical gameplay vision.

1 button press per 4 seconds. And most builds still just find a way to make the entire screen explode with 1 button press anyway.

good
perfect
excellent! fuck off! don't change this! stop trying to!
ARPGs and path of exile are gameplay accessories, the entire point has always been filtering through as many shitty chaff enemies as possible to crank the roulette on getting those .001% drops for dopamine hits like the trained skinnerbox animals that we are

trying to turn that into le epic action adventure experience is so fucking tonedeaf that it's actually impressive

what is this idiotic post even trying to say here?
if a game has buttons to press, thats bad?
sweetie if i want to hold X and watch, ill just play RDR2 or God of War.

please don't force your opinions and taste on PoE2, you have already ruined PoE1

The hardest part of poe2 is keeping awake past act 2

please play a different game if you want epic 30 minute roll-spam bossfights instead of trying to pervert something else into a thing that it is not and never has been

It exists in poe already. You can only use mirror arrow with bows. There are special build related blink abilities.

Tourists like you should fuck off.

Nioh 1/2 gotta be the most fun diablo likes I've played. Don't (You) me

I will (You) you because you're right. Also Scampus is cute, CUTE!

Developers mindlessly pandering to players is the number 1 reason gaming went down the drain.

i didn't really like the original PoE and I don't plan on playing 2 but yeah this is spot on.

campaign is mind numbing and slow

bosses aren't exciting to fight they just feel tedious

once you hit maps the density goes up and it feels more like normal poe

is this the vision? the campaign is just a ballache for no reason?

Release scampus plushies for sale right now TN

I don't mind the 1 button thing, I mind the pace. My point is, which I guess I didn't articulate well enough, is that if the game is going to devolve into one button then it might as well be extremely fast BECAUSE SLOWLY CLICKING ON MOBS IS PURE FUCKING TORTURE FOR MY SOUL. In poe1 my mapping APM was way fucking higher because of how fucking fast I could blaze through maps. Ideally 0 button builds shouldn't exist or at least should be complete dogshit at harder content compared to a build that uses their entire keyboard, but it's not really the important part of an ARPG, and really the speed matters more to me.

They have done that, but they were limited time offer only IIRC

you are supposed to play it with 1 hand inside a bag of cheetos.
its supposed to be slow as fuck and tedious.
otherwise it would be unplayable while eating chips or nuggies.

t never played PoE1 before 2.0

played PoE1 before 2.0

there's a very small pool of maybe ~60,000 people who did, anon
i don't think you appreciate how utterly tiny that number is

its actually just isometric modded skyrim

lol, lmao

We can tell you didn't. And this was my first league I bothered actually completing for the MTXes alone.
Brick back bestiary nets!

if a game has buttons to press, thats bad?

If a game has no cooldown buttons to press that's bad. Especially the purpose of that button was already achieved through blinks in the previous title.

That explains so much about that rehash trash heap series, holy shit.

No
You have to be 18 to post here, faggot

and you shouldn't be able to participate in discussion if you haven't
you simply have no clue what you're talking about

dodge is a situational decision-button that should only be pressed in response to something which is happening on the screen
that's why it's a good addition and why you shouldn't be spamming it
do these poe players who keep asking for less gameplay interaction even pay attention to anything that happens on the screen?

Yeah we didnt play when the game was good!

That is not a flex brotherman

If a game has no cooldown buttons to press that's bad.

cooldowns are the AIDS of arpg's.

No Rest for the Wicked big release in 2 weeks bros

Looks like shit

Doesn't change the fact that that's when the game was at it's best. Back when it had SOVL
youtube.com/watch?v=-QwxJeDwEuk

There are blink skills that are used both for fast travelling and dodging shit. Dodgeroll is a spammable button that fixes a non existent problem.

When they could instead fuck off and play PoE1 instead, or any other game

What I don't understand is why they don't do this? PoE1 is everything they want, according to them it's the perfect game. Yet they still continue playing the sequel, furiously coping, seething and dilating. Curious.

circlestrafe around enemy for a canned animation with i-frames

coooooooooool
why do devs do this?

Dodgeroll is a universal button that gives every character active defense which is balanced to only be useful situationally and isn't just spammed to travel around the screen faster and be unhittable
Dodge is a better game mechanic than blink by every sensible measure

parry into a suplex

KINO
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they see me Rollin
they hating

you cant make this shit up lmaoooo

because poe1 hasn't had a new league in 9 months and wont get a new one until a year has passed since the previous one
it is stagnant and has no support, something ggg said they wouldn't do
if you're used to playing new leagues every 3-4 months having them totally drop support for your favorite game makes people kinda mad

GGG makes an isometric Souls-like ARPG

I refuse to believe that. It is a fucking ARPG, all a off them are brain dead easy. I was falling asleep playing Grim Dawn on hardest difficulty

If it was good, they wouldn't have changed it so drastically.

Lmao, metamorph was in 2019. 3.x version of the game. You didn't even play the game before it went to shit

Maybe they just didn't listen to player feedback, like Mr Hacketaka Miyahacki over here:

asked and answered here , you illiterate chicken jockey

I joined before ambush/nemesis
ONE SHIT
TWO TOILETS

Every character can already have a blink ability. They just insert the gem and use it.

universal button

As a warrior it feels better to use leap slam for both escape, travel and positioning purposes. Dodgeroll just looks lame.

Every GaaS is like a doujinshi with a corruption tag

keeps posting footage from acts and still has not posted a single fucking webm from endgame maps

get new material faggot

Miyazaki isn't the combat designer. The article is about players trying to tell him to make Dark Souls 4 and make it about Velka having an affair with Flame God Flann
ER actually had a big pvp adjustment patch which was heavily based on ideas submitted by competitive pvp scene content creators, and was an improvement although their base pvp design was so bad it was hard for it not to be an improvement

I take cooldowns over mana all day any day.

Because devs abandoned it to make another game. Almost a year without new league is crazy talk. If devs also updated PoE1 like they promised they would nobody would care. Alas, only inferior game is getting worked right now. Which was completely predictable.
Newniggers that came with PoE2 are just getting first taste of GGG kikery. They think GGG is on their side. Very cute to witness.

everybody hates poo2 already, there is no need for this bait campaign

When they could instead fuck off and play PoE1 instead, or any other game

you dumb fucking nigger
they are literally taking away developers working on poe1 to try and fix the shitshow that is poe2
if poe2 did not in any way impact poe1 development I would have already forgotten about its existence you retarded gorilla nigger

posts tutorial footage

woah guys this game is easy!

I cant fucking wait
The fist weapons look sick

everyone saying to play last epoch instead of poe2

check it out

it looks like absolute dogshit

huh

ah yes
There has never been a game or a game series that was completely fucking ruined
That has literally never happened
You were also not born mentally retarded

account locked

no response from support

Is it that hard for these gorilla brains to have a live chat for a few hours? Or at least say how long the ban is?

What did you do? Did you call someone a nigger?

I got to maps and got bored last time i tried it. Maybe it changes when new patch drops.

Souls-like

not brainless

A (You) since it's Friday.

pve game with pvp minigame

competitive

p2p connection tech from 30 years ago

when i came back to poe after years away, they immediately banned me without a word right in the first beach area, and i had to raise a ticket and wait several days for them to fix it
this was on an account with paid stash tabs
they just unbanned me when i complained and never said anything more, not even apologising
you are worthless to them

The game is good because (webm number 1239835928432 of act 1, likely of Geonor)

There is a FIVE PERCENT of the game that is good
I understand that you likely do not make it past it, but the rest of the game is TRASH

is it still ultra early access? I cant believe I paid 20 bucks for a game where I open up the skill screen and literally half of the skills says 'coming soon' its like a joke

Ive been playing since open beta. The game was not as hard as poe 2. The only thing that made early poe1 tough was having to use the forums to trade. I mostly played ssf while trading with irl friends.
Poe2 is not well designed. You have major progression mechanics blocked behind content that only a couple of builds can do. The one portal map mechanic showed they have no fucking clue what to do with endgame. The fact that was even able to leave internal testing without devs scrapping it shows they have no fucking clue what to do.

spark charges ice shards sorcerer

brand of deception runemaster

bleed bladedancer

lightning smite paladin

Decide my build for me Anon Babble

1) PoE1 didnt have a proper league for almost an year now
2) There is fuckton of issues with PoE1 that were basically "we will fix this in poe2 HOHO". Now PoE2 "came out" and its the same fucking issues but more and worse.
I cant even begin to explain this shit, but the tags are

ground loot/loot 2.0

we dont want to fix melee by just buffings its damage numbers

yeah we will totally take poe2 skillgem system into poe1 even before release, gear linking is an ass especially on chestpiece

I can probably write an whole ass essay about shit that was pushed into "later" category or sidelined for poe2.
Hell, Mark, supposedly one of the best things that happened to PoE1 in recent years (because he actually plays the game), now shamessly put on PoE2 main dev branch and one of the lead devs there.

to be honest i was mostly just being deliberately inflammatory because 'no true scotsman' arguments are inherently retarded
sorry anon

GGG is the worst company there is in gaming, unironically

Write email to support begging for unban. Actually works.
Got banned for paedophilia after dropping too much cunny in global 1, still got away with it.

thanks for beta testing, hope you reported many bugs so it can be polished for release in 2026

p2p connection tech from 30 years ago

This is always the most retarded meme. Fromsoft's method of handling network information during pvp is basically ideal for the type of games they're making. You complain because you're matching with mexicans on toasters and you don't understand the technicalities so you screech something about dedicated servers because you don't understand why they wouldn't do anything

You're genuinely retarded, unironically

release in 2026

so it'll be in beta then. to call this early access is disingenuous at best

There is fuckton of issues with PoE1 that were basically "we will fix this in poe2 HOHO". Now PoE2 "came out" and its the same fucking issues but more and worse.

Real. And people forgot about it because they've been saying it since before PoE2 got split into a separate game.

Developers mindlessly pandering to players is the number 1 reason gaming went down the drain.

Think about this, if western casual gamers had a saying, all From Software game would be braindead fucking baby tier easy. This is why I love From Software because they literally ignore feedback.

Why is everyone saying the name of the company and not the game?

Triple G mafia will kill you if you do.

When did Diablo or specifically the original Diablo franchise became a topic of insult?

When From Software finished Demons Soul. Low skilled ARPG like Diablo need to die.

soulslike does not work when you have 6 million enemies coming at you at the same time

What about triple Dark Souls 2 bosses. Oh, wait you shitters were crying about these.

D3 already had a roll button on console.

d3

Good thing it's not a soulslike which is made for 1v1 combat due to lock on and barely any skills have AoE

holy mother of cope

you can even beat nightmare with a mediocre character

If you like poe you need a lobotomy asap

Developers should just ignore gamers. Because gamers are fucking retards. It's like in any job in the world, why would you give a fuck what the retarded braindead customer wants.

Also dodgeroll added NOTHING of value to the game and the developer that played his first soulslike and slapped this shit onto poe should be ashamed.
Every single mechanic that requires dodgeroll might have been achieved with player movement.

If a developer ever kneels even once to player demand for mechanical changes in a non competitive game I'm never playing that shit. Its a sign you haven't got a fucking clue what you are doing or you have no conviction in your vision, I'm not here to play something made by Dunning Kruger retards on twitter and reddit

come home, white man

You've had a decade of updates already.

killed the best character in the series with some retarded butterfly side-villain

turned tyrael into a DEI

turned diablo into a woman

shan't

listening to feedback is... le BAD

you have to adhere to your own stupid vision because... muh conviction

I hope you never do any project whatsoever, ever

The customer is currently a fucking retard that paid for an incomplete, free game. I wouldn't take advice on anything from an audience that dumb.

In general players are really good about determining if what you did it shit, they just usually dont know why and get easily sweeped by reasonings of others. Then they just propose retarded solution due to limited understanding of development process and long-time consequences.
For example now everyone dissatisfied with the state of the game, its on GGG to determine why. Spoiler - big part of it is ruthless-style loot CBT attitude devs refuse to even speak about.

Yet they actually use stupid bandaid solutions like adding artificer orbs and other shit as quest rewards. I hope they are not THAT retarded and its temporal adjustment until they just reevaluate their loot system.

Feedback from WHO? are you so stupid you walk the streets and ask random homeless men what you should do with your job? No, you rely on your own intuition and if you're good at your job that is better than anyone elses, in the cases where you need another opinion you ask industry peers, not fucking morons like you who whine about everything and have never made anything in their life.

Some got it for "free".
Only newniggers had to pay.

muh two npcs

muh one enemy design

filtered browner

He payeded

I got plenty of hours of entertainment for my money, who cares.

Feedback from WHO? are you so stupid you walk the streets and ask random homeless men what you should do with your job?

Holy fallacy
Maybe ask your players? The people actively using your product?

diablo

""one enemy design""

the entity that the fucking franchise is named after is just ""one enemy"" now. what a fucking joke, anon

SOMEONE BAN THAT WOLF
HE'S SAYING MEAN SPIRITED THINGS IN CHAT

Anon revent interview shown that Jonathan (you know, THE person who approwes stuff) literally plays random characters trough random periods of times and is basically living in his own bubble. His attitude to reward concerns was literally "works on my machine" because he plays in the way he does not give a fuck about character progress at all, moreso about having currency backup before mapping.

I'm confused. Wasn't everything leading up to the early access release saying it was going to be like this?
What exactly are people mad about?

When player count halves by day 4, your mtx don't sell and your pr dept is on fire, shareholders start to question if you're the right guy for the job... but hey, at least you got 'the vision'. Lmao

2025... i never even existed

It didnt even get a real update yet btw. Claims to be the 30th but i bet on a delay

is actually fun

it somehow manages to be less fun than last sleepoch AND grim yawn

For example now everyone dissatisfied with the state of the game, its on GGG to determine why

It would be stupid to assume that everyone is unhappy for related reasons, or even that everyone who is acting unhappy has even played the game

Kek the seething.
claims that this only applies to ng+++ while insists it only works during the first ng cycle. Nioh drones sure are something else.

>turned diablo into a woman

that's in 4

Because it somehow got worse between 0.2 and 0.1. Apparently they went back on "1 rare per boss" rule, nuked minions (and apparently majority of selfcast spells that were propped by archmage) as an archetype, scaled rare minion HP to kingdom come, supposedly did something to overall loot or made it too much of an RNG.
Everyone expected herald/attstack/archmage to die, but they somehow sneaked in some random shit changes here and there. And yes people still complain about stuff they did in poe1 (campaign is a 20 hour slog with giant useless zones) that just werent addressed so players went apeshit.

its so easy to tell that you dont even play these games, stop making a fool out of yourself, anon, you are too old for this

openly admitting you play d3 is not the flex you probably thought it was, sorry anon

why the fuck would anyone ask a player about a developer decision? The only thing you're going to get from a mass of retards is

make the game like this other game i like

make the game more like every other game i play

i want this thing i experienced before

These are cattle with no imagination or vision, you cannot listen to them without your output being homogenized and diluted

You complain because you're matching with mexicans on toasters

Which shouldn't fucking happen as I'm not even on the same fucking continent.

thats in 3 actually. or it was trannyshit, diablo always was this hulking male monster then suddenly in 3 he transforms into a female monster with a feminine voice.

inb4 demons are genderless

While I had fun doing the campaign once, the idea of doing it twice, let alone 10 times per seasons like I am used to with other diablo-likes is filling me with dread.
So I will admit that PoE 2 is just not for me and move on.
I like cutting my way through large packs of mobs and clearing them with one move. The idea of having to do combinations of 3-4 skills every time you want to do barely correct DPS sounds cool in theory but is awful in practice, and having one primary skill and a handful of supplementary skills to use only in some situations, against stronger monsters or just when you, as a player, want some variety, is way more fun and entertaining.

Tying skills to your weapon is also a horrible idea that is already showing its limits and the creativity and skills-interactions in this game is almost non existent. Devs have a couple of builds per class they want you to use and that's it. It's nothing like the huge toolbox PoE 1 was in which you were completely free to come up with your own exotic build.

Also, I think that if you want to make a game that has the opposite game design philosophy of PoE 1, you shouldn't call it PoE 2. Just make a new IP. If you're calling it PoE 2, then fans of the first game will rightfully expect an upgraded version of PoE 1, not Elden Ring in isometric view.

Good luck to GGG anyways, they're not bad people but I am predicting that PoE 2 direction just won't work, and all the people defending PoE 2 I have engaged have admitted they didn't play the latest update, so it is very possible that none of the shills you're talking to in this thread have actually even touched the game.
When the ones who play your game (and pay money for it) hate it and the ones who defend it have never played it, it's a really bad sign.

m-m-my m-moneeeyyyyy

fuck off you corporate insect, the goal of games is not how many microtransactions you can sell, that led the the death of the entire western game industry.

You cant put a review without owning the game on steam, right? So I guess recent reviews is quite good indicator of at least some major dissatisfaction.
We had that in 3.15 where everyone was "lalala its a vocal minority" and then Chris admitted this league buttfucked their revenue and they will change approach to nerfs from now on.

Our company (in the middle of nowhere with barely any way to hire people) with insane development schedule and overworking can totally work for free guys

Seriously, the game is expensive, they do a public financial reports too.

and all the people defending PoE 2 I have engaged have admitted they didn't play the latest update

That actually happened to me quite alot. Basically anyone who was pro 0.2 I've spoken to is either did not even play or is in like act2 after a week.

...that didn't happen

Which shouldn't fucking happen as I'm not even on the same fucking continent

but by the nature of souls pvp your only available matchmaking pool is people who are

Within the same level bracket

Have the same weapon upgrade level

Are currently playing Coop

Don't already have max invader slots

Haven't been invaded within the last X minutes due to cooldown

Are in the zone you're searching in

Haven't blocked you

Then since this is non-consensual PvP in a single player focused game there is no natural selection process which would prompt people with poor connections or poor FPS to drop out of the matchmaking pool. Instead you get all of the people who would never attempt to play PvP in an actual PvP game because their packets are delivered by carrier pigeon but here in ER you will force your way into their game and get to experience that misery

Run the game with ping/packetloss displayed to the people you're matching with and it becomes obvious that the problem is the people, not the netcode

Where is the opposite design philosophy of PoE1?
The problem this piece of shit has is that it is the exact same fucking game as PoE1 which had already ran its course years ago with every league being worse than the previous one
You are a retard

shareholders start to question if you're the right guy for the job

if this is your primary concern just shut the developer down now, its already over. No good art is made out of obligation or fear, these are the things soulless golems like you think about and there's a reason nobody cares about anything you've ever said or done in your life.

That is very nice anon
Its also not my problem, I dont see why I would give a fuck

After that interview with Ziz, you now remember the Anon Babble leak way before the EA release telling us that Jonafat is a fucking awful game director and that he hadn't seen Chris Wolcen in months

This game exists because one (1) but extremely popular streamer(well not exactly) took a pity/interest at them and helped them to not shut down from not having any sales like 15 years ago, and now its the probably THE game of the genre. I guess it works quite fine?

Because those who make the game do, and their decisions are directly influenced by potential financial consequences, like it or not.

Phew. Good thing videogames are product and not art. Otherwise deluded schizos like you would be correct!

johnathon is the reason chris left the company
imagine having a fat overconfident narcissist like big tubby john breathing down your bald neck every day with the dumbest fucking retard game-ruining suggestions imaginable every day

every interview with john and chris in the same room has the most blatant disdainful body language from chris' perspective while john yaps about pipedreams

Im just wondering if leak anon got fired

If that leak came out like a month earlier I'd believe it, but outside of kiwi pets (which isnt that big of a guess, see last paid beta) it was full of shit any involved player knew already, or that were some random vague details that still have no conformation on.

Man im glad Grim Dawn is fun

If only they also werent retarded and didnt announce DLC SOON when it was clear they are nowhere close to release.

I did free advertising for you so you should now let me dictate how you build your game because you owe me

what a narcissistic, retarded way of viewing the world. The only thing I blame the developer for is releasing the game for early access in the first place, its not complete and by exposing it to probably one of the lowest IQ game audiences besides porn games and gatcha pigs you have ensured the game will degenerate into mindless slop.

Chris is based desu. Casually made best ARPG to exist and fucked off to the sunset to play MtG like he never gave a fuck.

Haven't played PoE2, but...
The point of games like this is to optimize the grind.
It all looks great, but they would have to remove grinding, currency, trading, etc. from the game to make it work.
If you only have to kill every boss once, that's a great mechanic. If you need to farm, I sincerely hope you can fly, because jumping out the nearest window headfirst will soon look like a preferable alternative.

shame late-endgame grim dawn still hasn't fixed its stack overflow crashing issue due to the numbers/math being too retarded for the engine to handle it
game is basically only stable/playable from level 1-70 before hourly crashes become common and they've never bothered to fix it

phew good thing you're a retard who isn't in charge of the japanese game industry or the entire medium would be permanently dead.

people now are praising chris

I swear to god you fucks will get nostalgic over Bex some day

I'm really feeling that more meaningful combat, I wish the enemies did as well. When one of the big selling points in their "What we're looking at" is that certain enemies, ones that weren't the problem in the first place, can no longer animation cancel a whiffed attack, that's not a good sign. GGG keeps making big long posts about how they're changing tiny tiny details while addressing none of the real problems, in the hopes of pulling the wool over Reddit's eyes and getting out of the negative reviews, unsurprisingly, it's working.

Eh, ive waited for Factorio DLC so i think im immune to eternal wait
Been a while since forgotten god came out anyway

Watch the cinematic where Diablo emerges from Leah. He has pseudo breasts, wide hips and a slimmer figure.

Nice "no u", schizo. Got anything of substance to say or going to keep crying? Do keep me entertained by replying regardless.

Chris was always right, even when people were mad at him

Anon you sound utterly retarded. Your developer's artistic vision is

lets cut off minion damage by like 5 times (seriously) without testing it

uh oh its a fucking meme

QUICK lets buff it by 40~70%

And WHOLE GAME is like that and was like that for 15 years. Ever since people spammed /oos macro to be able to play and practically begged them to prioritise their server issues.
Like if they had some strong point of view or a concrete plan you'd at least werent an idiot.

What game is your vid OP? It looks fun.

i've always appreciated bex in the way one might appreciate a minor mascot, like a company dog

Re read as many times as needed

hopesissies be like

yooo this gameplay is fire!

game tries to connect you with people you have an unstable connection to

"the problem is the people, not the netcode"

Whatever next? Are you going to tell me that the netcode is somehow part of the lore and the reason it doesn't check for something as basic as ping is because it's a reflection of the player character's ignorance of the wider world outside of Lordran?

yeah, you sure did

Well Chris was actually capable of saying "we are sorry, we fucked up."
Mark(2) can do that too and people still like him even now. Although I dislike that he caved in on ascendancy respec but.. well whatever.

Chris was based, Jonathan is based and Mark is based. The problem is that Jonathan and Mark are making the same mistakes as Chris did with PoE 1

those enemies are fine like that as long as the damage comes from their melee animations, because their melee is very avoidable despite their movespeed, the guy barely gets touched

>GGG makes an isometric Souls-like ARPG

thats no rest for the wicked
poe2 is a shit copy of poe1 and thats their mistake, trying to make the same game again without what made the first game fun

Made the least shit current ARPG and ruined it further with every dogshit decision
GGG were just lucky with their release timing, the game was never good

Guess you dont play the game then, I dont know what the fuck are you even doing here.

These guys aren't even problematic. Beyond shock mages that namelock you and get a cast out in 0.2 secs are way worse for example.

Not bad gameplay webm
This boss is so fun to fight with huntress act 1
Just add rake to your combo for closing distance

rake -> parry -> disengage -> spear throw -> rake

Pulling spear combos off feels fucking awesome with the boss OST

Yes, that's objectively better than letting the retarded devs decide.

there is nothing wrong with reminding a person to stay in their fucking lane when they abuse a position of authority for unrelated purposes

a wild blizzdrone appears

let me guess, going to shill d*ablo now?

To be fair, I in fact do dislike the fact that they just went point-by-point on the shit Ziz brought up. Like as if they have no other actual sources of feedback and just caved in mindlessly, in a most retarded manner. Their actual approach to fixes is still quite decent, but holy shit if streamer wont tell you something you wont even touch it or what?

I will never praise Chris, GGG as a whole or PoE at all
The game has always been shit and made the genre into the skinnerbox casino that it is now, GGG got lucky with the release timing after D3 was absolute antiquated, arcade dogshit and there have been several patches in PoE1 that have been basically completely rolled back because they completely fucking ruined the game, and all of those said patches came directly from Chris "VISION"
The problem with Jonafat is that his "VISION" is muddled diarrhea he himself doesn't even know how to translate into a game or what it even is really

and i bet he had to grind 100 hours

Thats an Act 1 boss and first skills Warrior gets.

I think this might be more your speed

Note that this is a 0.1 video, to adjust for 0.2 replace the Spark Archmage with a Lightning Spear Huntress and remove the loot

people are overreacting way too much over early access

You might aswell blame Kripp personally insteat of Chris, as it was the biggest d3 star who carried Chris's ass back then.
Still it sounds a bit disingenions to go that far and say "game is so shit it stayed relevant for 15 years and changed whole genre."

Who is this GIGACHAD

Fuck no. They should make the game they want to make, not the game they think players want

Those monsters got fixed few hours ago, all the fast monsters can no longer animation cancel. If they do an attack animation they're stuck in place for the duration of that animation.

Being so mentally retarded that you can't even understand such a short sentence must be rough
I am sorry for you anon

boo
post poe1 BLASTING
preferably from affliction league

Nah, its just people who know the devs for years know that if you dont slap them occasionally they will just doubledown because "player retention" is their sacred goat. Someone in GGG fucking HATES if you complete this game fast and wants you to stretch it as much as it is humanly possible.

It was me.

why is this message so obviously from a channer
is it the

Stopped reading at

As I learned from watching the Starship Troopers Extermination game just evaporate, if agame releases and is popular as it is, dont do sweeping changes, even if you think they would actually improve the game, people have shown the like the way it is and you shouldnt try to fix it by changing mechanics and overall gameplay.

PoE2 said it was going to be a slower ARPG through development, but launched as a regular ARPG and people liked it, rather than just scrapping their previous goals of making a slower ARPG they shouldve just rolled with what they had, I dont think slow paced ARPGs works, people play these games to autisitically create builds that let them wipe the whole screen in seconds, having to spend a minute to fight one enemy to these people is like playing a different genre entirely.

When they could instead fuck off and play PoE1 instead

You forget they also fucked PoE1 with shit like the support gem nerf and archnemesis as they built up to poo2.

why is this message so obviously from a channer

because it's path of exile
only autistic degenerates play it, and autistic degenerates can only post on Anon Babble because they get banned everywhere else

they should have made poe2 from the ground up instead of making peo1 with dodge roll and going from there
now they are held back by poe1 core mechanics and gear and mobs trying to slow it down which then makes 90% of the skills worthless since they don't work anymore

hehe, sorry my tomfoolery got in the way of your "work"
you saars are paid per post, right? go ahead and tell me about "The Good ARPG". I'm all ears :)

Devs should be forced by law to change the game into what the players want. If you want to make a game for yourself then it should be illegal to make any kind of profit from it.

PoE is a clicker/idle hybrid game where the endgoal is becoming as idle as possible

What that game even would be? Top-down soulslike? Who plays that shit more than once?
But yeah its apparent they dont really know how to slap all their idea together, and looks like different devs have opposite views on some stuff.
Like killing magicfind in poe1 to add it in poe2 is actually insane, are they mental or what?

Only redditors complain about the difficulty.

poop2 is bad. Sorry sis.

every player has their own vision of what makes the game better, there's 99,99% chance they will change it to fit some other player's idealized version instead of yours. The problem is that if they listen to players, they will implement ideas from different peoples' visions into their game each time they change something the players want. In the end it will be an amalgamation of hundred different visions for the game that pleases no one

those are the majority of the playerbase tho and its not exclusive to arpgs either
it seems like the newer generations are genuinely braindead and cant even think at all or read
i play both poe and league of legend and around a year ago the quality of games in league has dropped as well, everyone is just straight up retarded and dont understands the game or they dont want to read 2 lines to understand how anything works
theres something genuinely, fundamentally wrong with the newer generation

The problem is that if they listen to players

Thats not a problem. The real problem is that they listen to Reddit.

They really killed off their good game in favor of a bad game. Amazing strategy from Tencent.

Haven't played PoE2, but...

If you had you would realize everyone agrees the boss fights are the best thing in the game.

Yes, they're players too

different devs have opposite views

That much is crystal clear from the last interview. Mark is the poe1 guy and despite being a cringe group abusing auracuck have quite good grasp on what players want from that game.
Jonathan is the new BFR with hair that is going to write MY GAME on a flaming pile that is poe2.

Hits the nail in the fucking head on the only reason why this piece of shit game has stayed relevant for EIGHT years (came out in 2013 and no one played it for shit until 2017) which is streamers

If people play it it must be good!

brother please

Wait, any of you pretendious hardcore gamers are actually pushing it to t4 arbiter trough this slog? Bonus for not playing nu-meta build like lightningspear.

PoE2 fundamentally doesn't work right now.
It needs massive changes.

This. Poe and Poe 2 are just typical ARPG slop that appeals to the brainlets.

I have literally seen 0 people complain about the difficulty

I had a sensible chuckle when Johnathan admitted that he hasn't actually played 0.2 DotH yet and only played 0.1 until the end of normal acts, without touching end game or cruel. I can at least respect the LE game director for getting on twitch every week for a couple hours to stream his gameplay.

They always did and yet poe1 is beloved.

i'm just gonna shit on poe2 until they change it closer to 1. Its already working and all you can do is seethe

they could have slow and methodical game if they designed mobs gear and other aspects of the game for the purpose they wanted, same with skills and everything else
now they made poe1 but they don't want poe1 anymore so there is no logical way to balance it because players will always find ways to break poe1 mechanics, thus comes the nerfs that basically make majority of the builds worthless, creating the loop of few good builds exists -> nerf -> fewer good builds exist -> nerf ->fewer good builds exist

was like that for 15 years

why are you talking about POE 1? that game is an ARPG for fucking retards, the entire genre is for idiots. The issue here is POE 2 isn't just an average ARPG which means it isn't complete shit for the first time in the genres history

We knew it needed massive changes, specially to the endgame
The problem is that Jonafat doesn't seem to be aware of it somehow? Even tho the game is absolutely nothing like what they wanted it to be?

why do retards mistake complains about it being annoying, unrewarding and not fun as complaining about difficulty

Based doomchad.

wrong. poe1 is your typical arpg slop with 1-hitting bosses and clearing maps in 1 minute. poe2 is more refined and makes you think harder how to progress the game when things are going slower, and that's a good thing

The Troonathan meltdown interview was pure cringekino. I would never consider playing a game with a retard like that in charge.

I am just saying that this argument can be applied to anything, good or bad, ever. I dont even think PoE influenced other arpgs all that much?
LE still have the best crafting system, everyone despises PoE slot machine type of craffting. Old games still better at general progression/pace (which is funny as fuck, nobody can do that for some reason). I think both LE and GD added dodgeroll before even PoE did.

You need to be 18 to post here
ARPGs pre D3 and PoE were not like this

poop of excrement 2

Reddit trannies detected. Just goes to show that anyone asking to make video games easier are degenerate pedophiles.

Its already working

How

"If you don't like it don't play it"

Doesn't play it

"WHY AREN'T YOU PLAYING IT REEEEE"

This is you.

Post your atlas

Troonathan

lmao I'm stealing that

I might read your post if you didn't have retarded sharty picture accompanying your post

GGG just released an emergency reddit patch to save face after their disastrous 0.2 release and subsequent eceleb interview. This won't be the last one, given GGG's long history of bending the knee to reddit crying.

everyone despises PoE slot machine type of craffting

Brother, I FUCKING WISH
Any streamer you ask will tell you that it is amazing because you can just pull the lever of the slot machine for 6 hours until you get what you want
Only if they have an IQ above 85 they will tell you LE crafting is better

For the last time, tedium != difficulty.

I think he said he did full runs including cruel, but otherwise yeah it was quite funny. I guess everything is on Mark and that other GGG dev that goes ultra tryhard (the one that wont the race and passed on the rewards back then.)

Hot fix is out, next patch planned mid next week.

poe 1 - kill 10k enemies per upgrade

poe 2 - kill 10k enemies per upgrade but game is 10 times slower

Fuck off, it's just not fun to waste so much more time for no reward at all.

I was left devastated after watching that
The fat fuck didn't have a clue what the fuck he was saying and Mark was trying to damage control as much as possible
I bet Mark was sweating like a river

no, im talking about every ARPG including your beloved diablo 2. This is a cancer genre created by one of the shittiest developers in the industry. Its not a surprise that the minute they go of script and adopt design lessons from a real game that it finally stops being a dopamine slot machine that only works on retards

bro your regals, just slap regals on your gear bro

GGG bending the knee already. Sad to see it came to this so fast before the game is even out of EA

When they could instead fuck off and play PoE1

poe1 basically died for this, now stop making these garbage threads, Jonathan.
the customer IS in fact fucking off, that's why no one gives a shit about something like ruthless and why only half the poe2 launch players bothered to come back for this patch.

just dropped a huge poe2 in my toilet while typing this lol

slam regal

get t2 (or t8, I think even jonathan cant remember that one) evasion

slam 2 exalts, get thorns, fire res (fucking finally, something)

thats all the currency you've probably got trough the whole act

based

poe1 crafting is very deterministic. there are crafts with 100% success.
poe2 is a literal slot machine and it's a common complaint

just scrap your rares bro

Patching an EA game

This makes it PoE1

Yikes

I mean it still comes down to 1/4 fracturing -> repeat or at best 50/50 veiling orb, at least thats how my mid-lategame crafts were trough Settlers.
Some builds have it better with mod blocking, but generally its still has a multiple steps of failrue or bricking.

Post your top 5 games.

Read the changes niggy.

No I truly believe he knows what he wants out of the game. But, he is designing the game for himself i.e. RUTHLESS.
He wants every single moment of the game to be some great challenge. Where gear is only a momentary reprieve from the difficulty.

In my highly scientific chart, this is basically how the two games play. In PoE1 You are very weak at the start with very few options and very few pieces of gear and then the campaign gets very easy once you get some gear and your skills online. Then it gets hard at about the time you start facing pinnacle bosses until you blow past them with gear and the game becomes a econ trading sim at that point.

Now PoE2 starts similar to PoE1 where the game starts hard but the campaign is tuned right now to make it always hard and gear is only a stop gap solution for a nominal amount of time. Then mapping hits and it stays very hard until you get enough currency/gear to just blow past all the content like in PoE1.

More checkpoints?

Daily reminder: New cycle drop for Last Epoch in less than a week. Will this be the final nail in the coffin for poe2, perchance?

Metacrafting bows is the easiest shit and is guaranteed if you follow all the steps.

Wow, a decade old game with dozen different crafting systems has more deterministic crafting? This is insane!

Btw its been 15 years and actual armor DR value is still some esoteric knowledge hidden behind third party software, and for PoE2 I believe formula is still somewhat theoretical and unknown.
You cant tell me someone in GGG isnt retarded.

last epoch

LMAO

i hate so much souls-like games in general. so boring

No. LE has big flaws that make it a bad game in its own right. It's just better than POE2 right now. Next month new league for POE1 though.

No, you first.

Dont get me wrong I take that over 3 ex slam -> chaos spam on fractured base, or using barely existing omens for.. pretty suboptimal outcome honestly.
Actually have 0 excuses to not have unweils in PoE2, its a decent mechanic that lets players have at least some agency over their stats without just adding them to the gear.

Your chart just shows Act 2 needs some futher pacing balancing. I played Huntress and because she was so weak in early game I played super conservatively and slowly. And I noticed that I was still underlevel each time I entered a new area. If they buff the XP gain so that you're 1-2 levels above a new area if you bother doing the sidequests in each area, then the campaign would feel much easier while still being close to the "vision" for racing and speedrunners.

I re installed the game and it is definitely a fun and enjoyable game. From what I can tell, the campaign isn't a slog anymore and I've only just started breaking into the end game but everything seems
FIXED

It is pretty simple, the people who worked in the first game aren't working on the second one. Maybe a head or two stayed but everyone else rotated

Next month new league for POE1 though.

How many tablets of copium are you on right now anon?

Yeah, it's for sure going to get better years from now. But right now at the current moment the "crafting" is pure shit.

I just cant make myself grind endgame in LE for some reason. I will certainly give it a chance in the next update, considering how fucking much it added, including WASD (I wonder if it would feel good or like a cancer as apparently there is no cast-walking in LE?)

GGG makes an isometric Souls-like ARPG that is actually fun and not brainless gookclick Diabloslop

I felt for this meme.
Is just like a Diablo-like, boring and unfun.

b-b-but you may die!

Yes, and?

My bad. Not next month. June.

like, 6 or 7, my dude

stop lying to yourself
N I G G E R

bro I finish the campaign with 45 regals I get 4 per map bro just disenchant bro

be nice

I played Huntress and because she was so weak in early game

The problem isn't that she is weak. She's one of the strongest characters and fastest levelers with the twister build build but everything else she has is completely undertuned. It's the same problem that ruined PoE1 where a handful of builds are massively overpowered and the rest are unplayable garbage.

The chart doesn't really do a good job of stating the time difference of the games. POE 1 doesn't get hard until pinnacle bossing and none of the game is blocked by extremely annoying content like having to do sanctum to get your ascendancy points. (the lab in POE1 is so inconsequential now that even if you have a bad build or didn't get enough gear you can out level it.) You can't really do that in POE 2 with the sanctum ascendancy stuff. I had a few of my alts just buy runs for ascendancy points because they were melee and it was legit a badly designed mechanic for melee.

NIGGOR

TWO GAMES
ONE BIGSHIT

I never had a problem with the bosses in poe2, the bosses were fun but when all the trash mobs that you have to fight in between that are damage sponges that take forever to kill, that's when I have a problem and lose interest in the game.

I played Huntress and because she was so weak in early game

????????????????????????????????

they did say in the ziz interview that they will announce it next month

I agree with Op....
Fuck off to POE1..

i hate how fond they've gotten of announcing announcements

LE is worse than Grim Yawn, game is abysmally bad, they blindly tried to copy mechanics from other ARPG without any understanding what they are doing and what their goal (beside selling MTX in their shop, obviously).

thanks for your input jonathan

I sit here and hope that they remove sanctum from poe 2 before game release (or better next week because why not). I really hope sanctum is placeholder for proper, new and fun ascendent mechanic.

BIG SHIT CHRISSU WILSON guy has done irrepairable and hilarious damage to the path of exile franchise
i genuinely hope he's doing well for himself

haha lol