How do you respond to this?

How do you respond to this?

I see a bunch of meaningless mumbo jumbo and one good game

The $549 Steam Deck OLED is the best possible purchase from all the options for a handheld right now. Ideally, you should buy one off ebay from someone who bought and barely used theirs.

Only one of these is an actual gaming platform.

Rog Ally X

8.6TFLOPS

hahaha good one, what about the real number?

/thread

I love my Steam Deck!

one game

The others have Mario too

Can't wait for Deck 2 with UDNA to curbstomp every smug tendie console warrior on this board.

But those are games for your PC, anon.
Same with Switch 2, you won't play Hitman on that, will you?

I DON'T KNOW WHY

I got a 4060/13620h laptop for 799 and i can even play path traced cyberpunk fine at around 60 fps.

Does it have Monster Hunter?

As a Steam Deck LCD owner I would take a look at rog ally x just for beafy CPU. Still would install some real handheld OS like bazzite or cachyos

Loved deck 1 and I would buy a deck 2

Did you get the OLED?

I'd rather wait for a steamdeck 2 so I don't have to pay for online like a cuck

My phone plays these better than these children toys.

20 FPS

Based

Wilds getting a Switch 2 port that can play the game in 1080p 120fps will be the final nail to kill all these shitty handheld PCs for good.

Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to play Wilds; it's called Monster Hunter Rise

the other 2 also have Mario do :^)

BTFOs everyone in the thread

my $800 console can emulate this retro game from 8 years ago

Wow... So this is the power of PC handgelds

what are some deck exclusives i can play?

Switch 1 games are now retro

Tendies utterly mindbroken

There's lots of games exclusively not on Switch 2

DuckStation
Flycast
PCSX2
PCSX3

Terrafags are a useless number

Cope

All the tendie games the NSO is missing, all of them.

asymmetrical thumbsticks

Why do companies fall for this meme on handhelds?

Tech-wise Switch 2 is comparable to Eck but has access to nvidia upscalers and fake frames. According to digital foundry it's weaker handheld but stronger docked and will benefit from games being tailor-optimized specifically for it.
If that's accurate the price isn't that bad for what you get, the problem is the price of games.

I love sucking corpo cock so much

Stick the exclusives further down my throat, daddy

Hmmm yes make me spend $500 for a shitty console just so I can spend $80/game PLUS $20/month for the priviledge of using my own internet connection

So you're saying the asus thing has rougly equal performance to a gtx 1080?

make handheld as bulky as the Deck

but without the trackpads

why

what are some deck exclusives i can play?

For me, anything that plays well on Deck is Deck exclusive because I can't be staying at my desk after I'm done with work honestly. The couch and bed are much comfier.

finish work

hit the gym

take a shower

play some ludo on deck

fuck my gf

sleep

Life's good.

If that's accurate the price isn't that bad for what you get, the problem is the price of games.

And paid online.

mogs your mini laptop trackpads

Do tendies cultists genuinely think that the Steam Deck has no games? Yesterday I just played:

Team Fortress 2 (PC exclusive)

Prototype (Not on Switch)

Iji (PC exclusive)

Ace Combat 7 (with mods that aren't on Switch)

Rollerdrome (Not on Switch)

WereCleaner (Not on Switch)

Seriously; I see this cope about exclusives posted in every Deck thread. Are console warriors really that mindbroken over a handheld PC that's basically the Steam Controller 2.0 with a 1050ti and a screen in one convienient handheld package?

Or are they actually mad that I can finally have the couch convenience of console gaming without putting up with the gay constraints that companies force onto the the hardware I own, leaving me to tailor my experience as I see fit? Did Linux finally becoming a feasible gaming platform cause them to overdose on copium?

It eludes me very much.

Cut them some slack, they literally just unlocked mouse aim in the tech tree.

used for splatoon and metroid prime 4

demands a table or a desk unlike trackpads which are right at your fingertips

You want an award for basic features tendo nigger?

They just can't allow themselves to feel like their purchase is worth less than yours so they have to shitpost about it. In their mind, your positive experience as an 'eck 'wner is equivalent to telling them they need to buy a steamdeck. Yes, corpogolem are that mindrotted, they think any opinion shared online is either shilling or anti-shilling.

Man, steamies are desperately pathetic now.

"oh but it came out 2-3 years ago"

You faggots were arguing your shitty handheld was better than the og switch, you can cope now

You know you can use a mouse on Steam Deck too, right?

Well, I own a Deck and an Ally X. Realistically, I will probably buy a Switch 2, because I am retarded.

lmfao holy shit the fucking replies. pc vegans genuinely do not miss a single opportunity to seethe in public

seethe

At what? What exactly are PChads missing out on?

Mario

Kirby

Donkey Kang

?

Deckies screech and moan every thread about not having trackpads makes everything else unplayable

literally impossible to find footage of anyone actually using the trackpads, every video you see they're just playing on analog sticks

hmmmm

play the game in 1080p 120fps

hahaha

Those aren't the actual prices. You can easily get an LCD Deck for $300-350 during sales. The non-X ROG Ally is $400-450 these days.
Or at least this was the case before tariffs, who the fuck know what the actual prices are nowadays.

That's the real number, at 25W. You just can't compare TFlops between different GPU architectures.

6800XT = RDNA2 (Steam Deck) = 20 TFlops

3080 = Ampere (Switch 2) = 30 TFlops

7800XT = RDNA3 (ROG Ally) = 37 TFlops

These three cards perform roughly the same in games. So an RDNA2 TFlop is ""worth"" more than an Ampere or RDNA3 TFlop.

It was better than the Shitch when it launched, and became even better as Valve improved the software that came with it. It'll still be better that the Shitch 2 via versatility and avaliablity of content alone.

muh nigger gage sales

It was successful enough for Valve to consider making a second iteration, plus it's a product that's only avaliable via mail order in certain countries for a smaller audience, while any parent can buy a bingslopper tablet off the shelf in their department.

"I was just baiting!"

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

I don't need a Deck. I already have a PC. I want a Switch 2 to play Donkey Kong.

8 core arm cortex

What year is this?

Switch 2

has ray tracing

Deck

does not have ray tracing

incredible cope in the replies, favela monkeys are not sending their best!

The Deck has ray tracing shill

"I was just baiting!"

but i wasn't, i asked a legitimate question and you immediately pissed and shit your pants seething lmao

That's a specific instance of false marketing, they used a theoretical trick to literally double the numbers for the Legion Go. In reality it's 4.3 TFLOPS docked and around 3.0 TFLOPS in 20W handheld mode. Those numbers accurately reflect its performance.

literally impossible to find footage of anyone actually using the trackp-ACK!

I just don't spend money on any of those things.

4.3 TFLOPs, the bloat is due to RDNA3's double issue functionality, which is pretty much useless. That being said, even the 4.3 number is highly questionable because the APU is gimped hard by memory bandwidth. AMD is also notoriously finicky about RAM.

Handhelds can play real games too. Stop being misogynists, chud.

z1 extreme is between rtx 2050 and rtx 3050

doesn't hit a single shot

So this is the power of the 'eck...

playable if the game was anything

Ok, and it was established that the Steam Deck had complete access to PC software. Where is the seething?

1kg

Nah...

It's 1.9 lb / 854 g. It's not for atrophic manlet tendie manchildren like you.

a device that doesn't use online DRM like steam is a godsend when traveling though which is the only reason to have a handheld in the first place.

Steam has an offline mode you fucking retard.

ya'll afraid to make one with a crt, like a big one

Why list the X version of the Ally when the regular version is much cheaper and almost as good? Almost the same internal specs outside of RAM and SSD.

I have a Legion Go with CachyOS, but I envy my brother's OLED SD because his battery life is nice.

Because it shits all over the Switch 2 even harder, even at its real performance which is 4 TFLOPS docked and 3 while handheld.

need to be online to activate offline mode also if a game randomly needs to be updated it will fail to launch offline

steam is not a comparable replacement to an offline device, periodt

and Switch2 will be better than deck when it launches
lol, lmao even

Reminder that Shartch 2 is weaker than Deck. I doubt those TFLOP numbers are accurate.

Doom?

Just get a Legion Go 2, it will be OLED with a 60% larger battery. It will also BTFO the shitch 2.

Who needs to play all these games on the go? It's not like you faggots are taking long trips on public transport. And even if you were would you want to flaunt your expensive toys to feral scum?

You mean the B team treatment

Did you have to post that shit, you disgusting nigger?

he literally deletes a dude a second later with his third shot, while moving at high speed

Not really trying to get anything right now. Just saying Valve made the nice choice of choosing a weaker + lower res screen for actual handheld use.

Switch can only play mediocre bing bing wahoo slop and ports of games that you could play on steam deck or rest umpcs.
And piracy is not an option unlike on pc, so its not 450$ but much, much more expensive.

I'm impressed it can run Wilds at all considering its lack of optimizations.

whose fucking idea was it to make HANDHELDS bigger? i miss when they were actually handheld and you could fit one in your pocket
the steam dick has some use as a portable PC with a good price point at least but i still hate this retarded ass tablet-with-controls-glued-to-the-sides design

I sold my Deck because I never used it after getting the Go. I never game more than 90 minutes at a time because I have a full time job and a significant other. But I will sell the Go and by the Go 2 anyway for the improvements. It will be nice not to have to charge it so often.

It’s not about playing on the go. It’s about having the freedom / flexibility to pick up and play games wherever at your home. I don’t have the time to sit in front of my consoles anymore, especially those without sleep modes. Handhelds are the only way I can enjoy vidya right now.

Shut up bitch and hop on this dick

3Tflps

A78C

nice fake news from nvidia
That CPU is from 2020 and is absolute garbage.

all of those can be played on PC/Deck

ampere

so it really was delayed, and by a lot
that's the uarch in nvidia 3000 series and it's been a few months since 5000 series released
nintendo is selling its customers technology from 5 years ago as if it were something new, again
wait 2-3 years until PS6 releases, RTX 6000 series releases, new cards from AMD release
people will be asking for switch 2 pro AGAIN because new games will chug or look like crap

Your phone plays castrated versions of their couterparts.
Hopefully gamedevs will stop being complete retards and make Low profiles that can work for PC handhelds.

w0rd nigguh

The entire market of pocketable handhelds got raped to death by mobile phones because people prefered dogshit freemium games. The death knell was the release of the Switch. Now it's all chinkhelds.

How do you have time to play on a handheld but not enough time to play while sitting down in a chair? What's the difference if you're just playing at home anyways?

Tflops there refer exclusively to GPU power

With how poorly Wilds is made forget about it, runs like shit

SHEEEEEEEEIT nigga! DICE GAME n sheeit, nigguh. ON MY MOMMA

The fact they are afraid to make it doesn't mean I'm afraid to buy it

whose fucking idea was it to make HANDHELDS bigger?

It’s the hybrid model. I kind of hate that we’re limited to it, as well. Better question: why the FUCK did they decide to make the Switch 2 bigger than the Switch. It was already a combo of bad form factor (aside from the mandatory docking dimensions) and flimsy.

having a 1080p 120hz screen seems like a waste of battery if you can't run it natively.

I'm sure it will just switch to 60Hz when necessary to conserve battery life.

the problem is the price of games.

This is the only reason I'm not getting a Switch 2.
I already have a Steam library and I'd rather grow it further than buy a Nintendo machine whose only competitive advantage is to have the privilege of paying 70~80 usd to Nintendo for games that will never ever go on sale.
Donkey kong looks nice, I'm sure 3d Mario and whatever they decide to do with Smash will turn out great. Not sure they justify a whole system.

wilds

1080p

120fps

switch 2

you can't be fucking serious. At best you might get 1080p/720p with 30fps (60 if framegen is used), but no more.

you know you can resell physical games, right?

Short answer? Kids. Mine are too young to really get into games, and honestly, I choose to avoid playing in front of them most of the time (don’t want them to get as absorbed as I did). I need to be able to put down whatever I’m playing at a moment’s notice, and not being tethered to a tv means I can pick up and play wherever will be the least problematic in the house (important when everyone is in bed).

But it's also over twice as expensive. Standard Z1 Extreme Ally is literally cheaper than Switch 2.

having kids

NGMI

That's not possible on a garbage CPU. The CPU is a massive bottleneck, it would be amazing if the GPU even achieved 1 Tflops.

Waiting for the Steam Deck 2...

To each his own, anon. It’s a lot of fun, but you have to trust that the time you put in will produce good results. Kind of scary to think about how it could go wrong.

Not having kids is definitely simpler.

With enthusiasm for the Switch 2 instead of a watered down PC that runs all games like shit.

Yeaaaah...

At what?
The most interesting switch 2 game is multiplayer gothic fromslop.

a watered down PC that runs all games like shit

So, switch 2?

Well, you can play Cyberpunk 2077 RIGHT NOW on Deck with higher frames than switch 2 can dream of

$399 (no OLED) vs. $449 vs. $699

Seems like Switch 2 is the best bang for the buck.

Paying $100 just to get OLED screen on inferior hardware

lmao

No, Switch 2 is a watered down PC that runs all games like shit and the games cost $90

That's fair. I'd probably do the same if I ever have kids because spending all of my youth on vidya was not the greatest use of my time in hindsight.

Have one of these. My only gripe is the 16gb of RAM. Otherwise it's great, pretty much an Asus Ally with detachable joycons, a lot of extra buttons, and a touchpad.

Steam deck is a neat device, but not realizing how bad steam's DRM implementations with it's online requirements are is only explained by corporate worshipping.
The real jew move was nintendo releasing a small switch lite and -deliberately- disabling video output over usb3, because they wouldn't want a cheaper switch that you can also hook up to a tv.

A 'steam deck 2' announcement would be amazing, nintendo would shit itself.

My only gripe is the 16gb of RAM

I find it very unlikely 16GB of RAM is a bottleneck for a device with a mobile APU and extremely limited powerdraw

The deck can't handle most games outside of hacky bullshit resolution modifiers and playing on "switch" or lowest pc graphics settings. Why does everyone who owns one think it's future proof or something.

Own an ally, it cant run new games above 720p 30 WITH upscalling on and it sounds like a jet engine drawing 35 watts.
Sure the switch 2 games look dated, but they look and run better then the Ally runs them.
If a game is newer then 2023, I'm not even trying

t. false flagging shill

So I get to rent the game for ~10 usd and never play it again. Ok?
Some people like to revisit their games, you know?

Yeah, wtf is that CPU? It's almost 8 times slower than Z1 extreme. It's not gaming CPU.

The difference is Nintendo went with best in class upscaling technology instead of settling for the ugly girl at the prom(AMD)

It has a 1440p 144Hz screen, so unless you run games at 1080p or so, the vRAM (Shared with the 16gb RAM, about ~3gb reserved for it) will be a bottleneck in some games.

It's not gaming CPU.

Valve Mumbai division has arrived.

People aren't buying the deck to be able to run the latest games. They are buying it because it runs their existing steam library on a handheld without being nickle-and-dimed for everything.
So I could my yearly fromsoft playthroughs either on a deck for free, or buy EVERYTHING again on the switch.
It's all common sense. Switch has some games I like (xenoblade games in particular), but if I had to pick a new device, switch 2 makes no sense.

My steam deck has all Mario games. From Super Mario Bros. to Mario Odyssey.

luv me 'eck
luv me 'rackpads
luv 'team
luv 'abe
luv 'alve
simple as

I don't recognize any of those video games.

DLSS with 4K60 target costs 18ms to render on Switch 2, literally just the upscaling would take longer than a single frametime. It's shit.

It's not A gaming cpu.

happy?

I travel a lot, so having something easily playable and portable is huge for me. I bring my laptop with me in airports and hotels, but I don’t feel like setting it up to game, so that’s why Deck is king for me

I see a lot anti Nintendo hysteria around the place
No idea why

steamies

Can your switch 2 play modded minecraft, stalker, silent hill 3 or cod mobile?

Why is your standard 4k60 when the Steam Deck is running games like this

Yeah, wtf is that CPU?

dirt cheap

The middle is the only one that makes sense to buy in my case if I'm somehow interested in exclusives. I already have a decent set up, why the fuck would I want to play my PC games anywhere else with lower resolution, frame rates and probably 1.5 hours of playtime at best with maxed out settings on the type of games I play.

HAHAHAHAHAHA
It can't even run Cyberpunk at 60fps. Tendies are so fucking delusional

any thing that isn't castrated nintendo console is shitty

Toddlers are legit batshit insane and they truly hate gaming.

1080p 120p

Optimization is thing of past and switch 2 hardware is not that good, retard.

Heavy games run at 720p 30fps upscaled to 1080p. Look at the Cyberpunk footage. We'll see how it fares docked.

720p

Cyberpunk handheld mode is 540p.

finishes tutorial level

"battery low"

Embarrasing

gaming 4 hours in one sitting

Touch grass

Yeah, but didn't you realise that you could resell your games for a fraction of the price you paid them for?

Nta but I buy games to play them, not to use them as some form of shitty investment. DRM-free is the most important thing, and physical media is plagued by that shit.

why is gabeboy' existence so offensive to tendies? these 2 consoles are hardly competing with each other and i could see myself getting both for different reasons

You don't know that you bought it for your own reasons but I'm saying compared to other umpcs the deck is ancient. Sure back when the gpd win 3 was out the deck outperformed it 3x fold, but with the ally, win 4, Aya neo slide, and other using newer apus, the decks performed is not good.
I'm saying it's ALWAYS about the deck and when another umpc company is brought up it's called chinkshit or some other tard faggot shit.

I said third shot you twit.

People just want to argue and call each other mindless drones for preferring one thing over another instead of just playing vidya or something.

My IPAD is better than all of these desu.

The brand has become too successful. It’s easy for people to become attached to a company like Nintendo because of the positive, emotional experiences they’ve had with the product. It can become blinding, though.

I have a steam deck and only game on it. I don't play modern AAA garbage. Mostly retro games or games from previous console gens or indie games. It's comfy. Why does this make nintentards, snoys and xbronies seethe so much?

And it runs at 40fps. In performance mode.

no piracy

can't play games that weren't ported

best bang for the buck.

Tendies are legit insane and delusional.

why do people on this board keep asking me to respond to things?

The Switch 2 will sell more day one than the Gabeboy did in its entire lifetime. Every 3rd party developers under the sun will beg Nintendo to let them port their games to Switch 2. Valve is fucking finished.

Valve is fucking finished.

kek do you think Valve is banking on Deck sales or something?

Yup, even that number would require impossibly high clockspeeds and power consumption given the form factor

I mainly use my steam deck to remote play ps5/series x.

'ICK

Im waiting for the z2e units.

I NEED TO PLAY GAMES AT ALL TIMES! I NEED TO BE DISTRACTED ALWAYS!

build a real pc to play gacha at 4k 120fps hdr

can someone remind me how much the team deck sold? I forgot...

I love my lego but come on, the only advantage it has is the touch pad (unlike the ally) and detachable joycons. It's also too big to be portable especially with the included case.

r0796954

borderline legit nogames

No, at least android has decent games if you are willing to search for them.

Are they as good as the first Mario game?

Less than the n-gage.

Can you remind me how many rolexes were sold compared to dora the explorer watches?

It doesn’t play games why are you steamies lying about stuff. Proton will never support the popular games.

It's sad how bad the Switch 2 battery life is. They made the screen specs too good for games that won't even make use of them.

works for all the most recent releases and your bing games

The Switch 2 will sell more day one than the Gabeboy did in its entire lifetime.

And how that affects you or me?
I am supposed to care, because...?

More people can afford to shop at H&M than at Louis Vuitton

$499 + paid online

$90 game, never on sale

Honestly if I have to choose one, I would choose a Deck.

I play Steam games on my pc

don't even bother replying to the salesfags, most of them have brainrot from the famitsu threads and are literally retarded.

Can you connect your steam deck to a bathmate penis pump or Autoblow Ultra?

The Switch 2 will sell more day one than the Gabeboy did in its entire lifetime

Not with tarriffs and not with ruined excuse of economy.

By buying a laptop.

I prefer apples to oranges.

What if you want to play them at work or something?

I do not have time to play games at work. I shit post on Anon Babble instead

playing emulated GBA RPG's on your phone is peak mobile entertainment.

I think the Deck was by far the best purchase 1-2 years ago, but with so many new games coming out that require the power it's lost a lot of value. Once the new AMD chip handhelds come out this year it will be left in the dust. Valve needs a Deck 2 badly.

I want to jerk my cock to Princess Peach getting plowed by Koopas and Goombas while Bowser watches from his throne.

by pre-ordering a switch 2

The games that rape the Deck are also games that rape everything but an 4090/5090.

Paypig. If you're into findom you should just go find a dominatrix at your local swinger's club.

Personally I feel like both Deck and Switch are too big for actual on the go play. I wish handhelds were still small like the DS. I'd rather just use a PC and leave the Switch docked.

I’ve had jobs where I end up doing nothing for like 6-7 hours a day, so I just whip my Deck out and switch between that and scrolling tiktok

Probably by buying a Switch 2 like I always intended to.

Do PCs even have leather inside of them or have animal feces and blood and shit from India or something?

/thread your own post

thats the number one rule to automatically make your opinion invalid no matter what, fucking newfag

So it's already surpassed the ps5 and sex and hasn't even released yet?
Nintendomination continues.

Steam has multiple types of DRM.

I used to have an hour ride into work, and when it wasn’t my turn to drive, it was the perfect time to play my handhelds
I don’t really miss the tiny screens on game boys

The real problem with that is capcom's dev team are a bunch of retards who can't figure out optimisation. We'd need somebody not retarded to go in and fix it for them.

MH Wilds and Space Marine 2 run great on high settings with my 4060 desktop but keep coping

You and me both, brother. It’s really sad that chinks are the only ones in that market, and they’re barely doing anything outside of making cheap, flimsy emulation machines.

The steam deck track pads are crucial and made me realize every gaming handheld needs them, especially PC handhelds. It opens the door to letting you play more games and via emulating mouse control. Like RTS games, i play so much SW:EaW on my Deck because of this, I couldn't do that on the ROG Ally.

This is correct
Peak ALU throughput is quoted with dual issue instructions by AMD now despite them being the most obscure edge case even when it comes to purely theoretical metrics like FLOPs

You just can't compare TFlops between different GPU architectures.

Blithering retard

Nah, you have to squint to read text in the deck. You have to use a magnifier function to read text

Funnily enough... Most of the games in the video can be tweaked a bit more to get a stable franerate or you can use the FSR framegen decky plugin that let's you use framegen in any game. For example, MH Wilds is in that video but it was on the top ten played games on Deck last month.

He never asked you to respond anon

still not paying $70 for ten year old+ games.

kek do tendies actually believe the switch 2 is equivalent to a 3080

mh wilds

Post fps without frame gen

Based. My 4050 laptop is surprisingly good too. I can even max out RT in GTA V Enhanced and still get 100+ fps (with the other settings cranked too).

I hope not because the PS5 is about a 2070 and the Switch 2 is obviously much weaker than a PS5.

Response to this is

BUT MY CONSOLE SALES VALVE CAN'T MATCH THE CONSOLE SALES AND IS FINISHED

They never talk about games or their quality, do they?

Switch 2 is 3/4 of a mobile RTX 3050, with a fraction of the power limit, less bandwidth, lower clocks
Anyone expecting a miracle out of this is a shit eating retard
Specs leaked straight from Nvidia when they had a data breach

Dragon's Dogma 2 had the worst performance out of all the PC games I played in recent years. Why is it used a benchmark?
Same thing with people testing graphic cards performance on Stalker fucking 2.

in this thread we're comparing the switch/switch 2 to the steam deck

NYOOOOOOOO NOT NOT LIKE THAT

dilate, poorfags

Same, trackpads are great for first person and puzzle games

explain why sales as a metric matter in any way to the user experience?

Based Gaben

nobody said you couldn't, we just implied you're a retard

Because the Switch 2 can run them in 1080p 120fps once the ports are out, unlike the shit deck.

You can pirate on deck unlike switch 2.

*with upscaling and frame gen

up to 120 fps

Every fucking test or benchmarking tool is useless and Teraflops were always a horrible metric for comaprisons for consumer products.
All that matters how well the actual games run.

The Switch 2 will NOT run Dragon's Dogma 2 or Stalker 2 in 1080p 120fps. You know what kind of PC you'd need for that shit?
This isn't even an insult towards the switch. The games are poorly optimized. They run like shit on any hardware, therefore they shouldn't be used as a benchmark.

can

no it fucking can't
it has some generic armshit cpu and a 2 generation old nvidia silicon cucked with low clocks and lower efficiency

Are you saying switch has been shit for years then? Why change your marketing script again?

you know i was going to buy a switch 2 but after reading this thread i'm convinced that i need to buy something with no detachable controllers no exclusives and no physicals. Thanks steamGODS

Technically it can, but companies won't bother with that when even pixel shit runs at 30fps on switch 2

Do steam deck and ally(s) have stick drift?

coping this hard

metroid in 120 1080 btw

Tendies just don't get it. Deck and other pc handhelds are open platforms. You can use them like normal pcs. The manufacturers only place to make a profit is on the sale of the hardware itself. Switch is a closed platform. Nintendo makes a profit on the sale of the games and the online subscriptions. There is no purpose to the switch 2 other than to use it to do more things that nintendo charges money for. There is no reason why the switch 2 should cost as much as the steam deck other than the fact that tendies are desperate to give nintendo money.

but it does?
the things it can't play have spiteful anticheats that could be made playable in 10 minutes

Add the price of the docks.

Move your dick out of the way
I can't see

Yes, in my pc and later in deck 2 :)

crispy crisp sub 30 FPS

actually the purpose of the switch 2 is to play switch 2 games, which I will be doing. Sorry that that makes you seethe so much.

thanks for proving my point

is that heckin brand from my childhood?? I must consoooom

I'm so glad my parents didn't bought me consoles jesus christ you sheeps are pathetic

That‘s great but i‘m not 10 years old

handheld meme

How about some kind of mini PC I could hook to my TV? Something I could slap SteamOS on? How about that?

>no piracy

can't play games that weren't ported

this is Nintendo hardware nigger, give it 2 weeks after launch

Legion Go

so the steam deck?

You do know you can hookup the Switch 2 to your TV, right?

your "point" is retarded. People buy nintendo handhelds to play nintendo games. PC handhelds(all trying to piggyback off the success of the switch) exist to fill a niche that no one really cares about. I have a PC for work and helldivers and a switch for everything else. Why would I get a smaller, less useful pc?

Tendie larping as a pc x switch again

they play your pc games and all nintendo games for significantly cheaper with better performance

pay extra for a handheld, goy

No.

Steam Deck and Rog Ally X have no exclusives.

30 FPS

Bullshit. It's choppy as fuck.

Z1 Extrame is actually just Ryzen 7 7840U, which is a laptop chipset. The CPU part in there is actually much stronger than it needs to be for games. Power consumption is shared between the CPU and GPU parts. The CPU part cannot run at full speed when the GPU part is stressed. It doesn't really matter if the theoretical performance at max TPD and with the assumption that the GPU part does nothing blows Switch 2 out of the water. ARM cores like A78C are very energy efficient, they will be comparable to Zen 4 cores in 7840U at similar power consumption in gaming scenarios. The actual problem is that Switch 2 uses a GPU architecture from two gens back. That's worse than Switch 1. Switch 1 used Maxwell, which was just one gen behind back then. Turing had not released by 2017, the most we had was Pascal. Switch 2 is using older GPU hardware (relatively speaking) than Switch 1. People don't remember this, but Switch 1 was praised for how powerful it was for a handheld device back when it released. There was nothing better on the market. The most powerful handheld before Switch 2 was... Playstation Vita. Now Switch 2 has less power than its competition on release date.

Xir has to sit at a desk to play video games

kek

i-it's fake!!!

tendies are so pathetic

pcs getting cheaper than consoles

What's goign on bros?

Show me Vintage Story, Veloren, Satisfactory, or Minecraft Java edition on Switch

m-muh tendies

I'm saying it clearly runs like ass, faggot.

it's clearly a shitty phone recording a screen, retard

why do people here care so much about how other people spend their money?

PC gaming has always been the cheaper option once you factor in that PC games are easily pirated for free that's why consoles never took off in third world countries.

You can get a graphics card as powerful as the PS5 Pro for $300, this isn't new.

Where is the row for exclusives? Everybody knows the main reason for owning a Nintendo console is for the exclusives, you can't just omit that detail in your comparison.

cope, lil deckie

saar you are doing the coping!!!!1!1

Are they really exclusive if I can play them on PC/Deck?

Switch has no exclusives that i care about

it doesn't count as an exclusive because you can pirate it

They are on PC too.

no physicals, either

He's partially correct though, within the same architecture TFLOP comparisons can make some sense. Though now they're using FP4 in these tflop numbers because

Higher number better durr

Kinda like how back in the day CPU GHz used to be the main advertised comparison despite actual performance per GHz being massively different between architecture.

Switch 2 SoC:

1536 Ampere CUDA cores

RTX 3050 Mobile 4GB:

2048 Ampere CUDA cores

Oh, and those 1536 cores in Switch 2 are probably going to run at a lower frequency most of the time because of heat and battery issues. It's outrageous that they're asking $450 for a device like that, with a locked down ecosystem and paid online at that.

boo hoo im still buying a switch 2 day one

What's the best handheld PC at the moment?

Rog Ally X.

Yes

do you think the switch 2 being emulateable will cause more butthurt then it not being emulateable

It's the opposite. Valveblowers spam their trash switch knock-off that sold 35 times less in every switch thread in a desperate attempt to get attention.

It never did for the OG Switch so why would it now?

because of heat and battery issues

You don't say, which is why your 1000$ laptop that has to run windows on top will overheat and lose battery in 30 minutes. Find a similarly priced PC with the same or better specs, I dare you.

The Steam dreck will not be able to emulate switch 2 games, so 99% of the emulator audience is gone.

pajeets arguing with each other about things they will never own. Anon Babble classic

STEAM DECK 2 COMING SOON, BABYYYYYYYY

STEAM DECK 2 COMING SOON, BABYYYYYYYY

So it can sell even less than 4 million?

Yes.

spbp, the deck is unironically the best gaming device I've ever owned and it's honestly not even close. I pity people who still desperately cling to consoles for whatever bizarre reason I can't understand or condone anymore

I can’t wait for DF to be called out on their BS

I can stream these games to my Deck at max visuals with 8-10 hours of battery life. You can't play these games on your Nintendo at all.

A shame it won't even get Wilds, let alone run it well.

We know you never leave your mom's basement.

I used to care about console sales back in high school but if you're an adult and you still have that weird emotional connection to a multibillion dollar company and to their revenue, I feel bad for you.

A shame it won't even get Wilds, let alone run it well.

It'll get it and run it much better than the steam dreck.

I like how specs suddenly matter to them while ignoring everything else when they've been screeching for 8 years specs don't matter. Watch them go right back to that the moment the Deck 2 drops.

Muh popularity

Again, then why are you so mad when non nintendo ips more popular than Nintendo exists?

As an actual handheld for people who actually play games, the steam deck OLED is the clear winner and you're retarded to pretend it's anything else. Having an OLED screen is a massive improvement well beyond any spec increase.

proton supports every game its just that some anticheats in comp games dont support proton

I used to care about console sales back in high school

And now you defend daddy gabe's failing empire and crying about a console being much more popular than your shitty, buggy handheld.

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It's the valvefags who are shitting up every online discussion of the switch with their irrelevant hardware.

Deck is not available in every country nor in shops, nor have marketing
Also, Steam is extremely popular

I will buy the Switch 2

it won't be able to compete with the switch if they are still jamming an x86 computer into a handheld

If Muhrio is all it takes for tendies to buy new shitty overpriced hardware, then why doesn't Nintendo just go back to the G&W era?
Imagine how much money they would make if they could sell a Switch that could ONLY run Mario Kart, a Switch that could ONLY run Bing Bing Wahoo 2, etc
Yes, it would be an insane inhuman scam, but that would be ok since tendies would buy it anyway

Seriously, what's preventing Nintendo from doing this?

muh oled

800p resolution

60 fps max.

no hd rumble 2

low brightness in bright rooms

no way to play switch 2 games

need to replace the whole thing in case of a controller failure.

...

Muh oled

Kek you marketers need to shit on Oled now until the new switch 2 version oled is announced, right?

new shitty overpriced hardware

Can you find a single piece of PeeCee hardware that gives you the same performance and features for the same price?

Exclusivity is literally all consolewarriors can cling to. Doesn't matter that PC has everything and taking games hostage to force the purchase of expensive redundant hardware to lock consumers into shitty abusive ecosystems is pure anti-consumer cancer, they pound on that table to justify having an IQ of 80.

holy fucking mindbroken

no way to play switch 2 games

And you have no way to play steam 'eck games other than portbegging them lmao
So, did you finally get WW HD after portbegging for an entire gen? We have that one for free on the 'ick

Exclusivity is literally all consolewarriors can cling to

No, having an actual protable device is another thing.

there are no "steam deck games"

That's like saying the ps5 is better than the switch. Sheer stupidity.

muh PeeCee boogeyman out of nowhere

Can you find a single piece of Shitch 2 hardware that gives you mods for the same price?

Tflops are useless

Just like how there's no "Switch 1 games", but you still bought a Switch. Why do you suddenly pretend to have standards?

muh oled

Yes.

low brightness in bright rooms

The fuck are you on about? Contrast in bright environments is in an entirely different league than any LCD screen.

60 fps max.

It's a 90fps screen and the settings default to that as max.

no way to play switch 2 games

There are literally tens of thousands times more games that work on the Steam Deck than the Switch 2. Games are not the problem.

need to replace the whole thing in case of a controller failure.

No, because Valve aren't a retarded faggot company and the steam deck is fixable.

"taking games hostage" do you hear yourself?

Deck is not available in every country

Nor is the switch.

nor in shops

Most people buy online.

nor have marketing

It does, for free even, thanks to valve cultists. Nowhere on the internet is without steam dreck shills.

Steam is extremely popular

It isn't. Steam is a ghost platform where 90% of games are bought for a penny and never played.

tendie is ok with buying hardware for just a single game but he's also not ok with buying hardware for just a single mind

The only one mindbroken here is (You). Also, you'd defend Nintendo if they had done it, don't try to deny it

It's definitely using frame gen to get 20 fps
My rog ally only gets like 35 fps with frame gen

nor have marketing

It does, for free even, thanks to valve cultists. Nowhere on the internet is without steam dreck shills.

Steam is extremely popular

It isn't. Steam is a ghost platform where 90% of games are bought for a penny and never played.

Tendie cultist contradicting himself

no i wouldn't because you just came up with an incredibly delusional scenario
CAPTCHA: NGGRG

There is no game I want to play and haven't played on any of them except the center one. I'm buying the center one day 1 and would never ever pay for the others.

I didn't know I could play splatoon on an emulator

A delusional scenario that you would definitely defend though
Admit it that you'd buy Switch Smash edition, a $300 device that can only run Trash 6

Again, it's no different than what Game & Watch did

Yeah, I really want to have to shell out thousands for arbitrarily locked down games for the deck, the rog ally, the legion go, etc. I totally want console cancer practices on pc. Any game on pc is a deck game. Nintendo can't even make that kind of claim for the switch with their own history of games. The deck is a more comprehensive device for nintendo's games than nintendo's own devices are.

That is what they're doing. Consoles are prison boxes.

Well, you can youtube.com/watch?v=LaFw_l_6GL8
And it will also outlive the real Splatoon online scene on the Switch since it's only a matter of time until Nintendo kills the servers. If you want to play Splatoon 1 online, then only CFWchads or Emulatorchads can do it

Even dumb HUEHUEHUEHUE know that you can do it, how does it feel to know that you're more tech illiterate than those macacos?

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The fuck are you on about?

OLED screens have bad max brightness. You'd know if you went out of the basement.

It's a 90fps screen

so no match for the 120 Hz of the switch 2.

There are literally tens of thousands times more games that work on the Steam Deck than the Switch 2

They don't "work" the same way that they work on the switch, it's full of bugs like everything on PeeCee. Local multiplayer is horrendous because of it. And 1 nintendo game is worth more than all the shovelware on steam combined. Everything that people actually want is ported onto the switch 2, while nintendo games will never appear on the dreck.

No, because Valve aren't a retarded faggot company and the steam deck is fixable.

Delusional. Valve had plenty of critical hardware issues throughout the years.

being this mindbroken

You lost tranny. Now I hope Shitendo is scrolling these threads for ideas

I feel nothing because I don't care. I'm still buying a switch 2.

barely smaller than the deck

worse battery life than even the original deck

will still get drift

does not come with a case

Deck wins that category too.

tiny minority of online cultists spamming every corner of the internet about their piece of hardware that sold less than 4 million units

hah, so you are admitting that the deck is popular.

Delusional macaco.

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bing bing BROKE you.

We know, marketer.

I don't care that you're going to buy a switch 2 you turbo nigger. You said objectively incorrect shit and I'm going to correct you faggot

Linux

Hahaha no thank you

Has mario kart, donkey kong, pokemon, backlog of games

It's obvious I'll buy it

Windows

As if this is any better than Linux...

gabe's failing empire

lmao consoleplebs are funny

The Nintendo Switch 2 is targeted at children and manchildren. I’m a children or manchildren, so I’m buying it. I don’t put money into iTunes I mean Steam to get temporary licenses for games I cannot resell. So I don’t effing care what the specs for competitors are. They think about me than I think about them. Game. Set. Match.

tiny minority of online cultists spamming every corner of the internet

Where's that spam you nigger?

why do tendies care so much about the 'eck? as they say it only sold a couple million units so where is the seethe coming from if its so irrelevant?

i'm still waiting for you to name a steam deck exclusive

worse battery life than even the original deck

Nope.

will still get drift

Switch 2 analog stick uses similar tech to Hall effect. Cope.

does not come with a case that costs like 15 bucks that you can buy if you need it.

desperate.

For tendies anything is spamming

a platform that can play ALL games (yes, even through emulation) doesn't need "exclusives"
but your negroblood tendie brain doesn't have enough intelligence to comprehend that

Ever wondered why nintendo never releases stats nor achievements? Who knows how much they lie with their numbers

Switch 2 analog stick uses similar tech to Hall effect. Cope.

AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

LITERAL SHILL POST

OLED screens have bad max brightness.

No, they have lower max brightness, and it looks better in bright environments because they have actual contrast. Which is why every modern phone has an OLED screen. Stop being a retard.

muh bugs, muh just werk

Thank you for admitting to being a retarded casual and discarding your own opinion.

delusional

The fuck do you mean? I can open my steam deck up just fine, and replace broken parts just fine. You cannot do that on a switch.

Ah yes, those steam online cultists and their obnoxious rog ally shilling
wait what

Nope.

Stopped reading there. You can't even accept basic, objective facts.

metroid in 120 1080 btw

Switch 1 can be emulated on a potato or a chink phone youtube.com/watch?v=BG1skdUa--4 obviously Switch 1 games will run at high resolutions and framerate
Recent Switch 2 games will run at more consistent resolutions and framerate, such as Donkey Kong Bananza at 1080p 60fps

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responding to years of "the shitch is DEAD" posting is now seething

marketer

Anon, the switch is the most widespread console to ever release. It's not weird for anyone to want to buy the successor hardware that does the same thing but better. The steam dreck on the other hand sold like 4 million, i.e. 35 times less, so there is little actual, organic demand or hype for it.

No I haven't. I don't care how many units this or that console sold.

basic, objective facts

Battery life depends on the software that is running, you mongoloid.

theres the seethe

For anyone complaining about the SoC in the switch 2. Do you know what ARM powered hardware nintendo should use without breaking the bank?

Everything that people actually want is ported onto the switch 2

Everything people HAVE is already on the steam deck.
Why do tendies brag about being able to rebuy new ports of games? Why would I want that over a library I've been building since the fucking Wii was new?
Steam's software library is famous for people literally buying many times more games than they can possibly play. This isn't a bad thing, no matter how much you try to twist it and cope.

120fps

Monster Hunter Wilds.....

Switch 2 can't even run Cyberpunk above 40fps. The only games that will get 120 fps are those stick figure indie games they showed in the prior Direct.
Tendies really are delusional and think Nintendo builds their own magical hardware unfettered by the problems that face the same powered hardware or superiorly powered hardware.

steam deck doesn't even have ntsync yet which should either increase performance, improve battery life, or both.

They shouldn't try to compete with anything less than a current flagship phone chip.

b-b-b-b-but that'd be expensive!!!!!!

Then that's what it costs to have a decent ARM device in this day and age. Stop buying out of date tablets for children.

and it looks better in bright environments because they have actual contrast

Keep telling yourself that, cultist. Everybody knows that OLEDs fucking suck in bright environment because they are so dark, your eyes can't see anything on it in the bright environment.

products not working and needing to waste time to make work is now a plus.

This is why nobody respects PeeCee.

The fuck do you mean? I can open my steam deck up just fine, and replace broken parts just fine.

You cannot do that on a switch.

You litterally can.

All of these are equally poorly portable. The Go has a much better and larger screen than the Ally, and the detachable controllers are great.

only in some games but the gains are pretty substantial when they apply

2000 nit OLEDs are dark

They are Hall effect according to the leaks, it's just that nintendo does not want to use the patent so they are doing it in a way not to have to pay royalties. It's all been confirmed. It's also why they make no noise according to playtesters.

You can hook this up to a Deck.

That's a vague ass statement dude. What the fuck do you consider a flagship phone chip?

Keep telling yourself that, cultist.

Have you literally never used your phone outside or something?

trust me bro

This webm is misleading because it was made when the game just released and emulator was still in beta.

And you can't use two mice at the same time because the dreck is hampered by PeeCee limitations. Unlike the Switch 2.

ok marketer
This won't affect me since joycons are backwards compatible and I already fixed mine with gullkit analog sticks

It's also why they make no noise according to playtesters.

is that a thing analog sticks do? make noise? what

trackpads are for mouse controls bro.
The fact you dont play games that have a mouse pointer says a lot

No?
Flagship phones are a pretty defined category, and the stereotypical chips are Snapdragon 8's.

The cope is going to be delicious when the facts are going to be commonly known.

There are more PC users than tendies.

consolenigger talking about hardware limitations

youtu.be/4NZGox5xJO8?t=180

just shut the fuck up okay?

dude just build this custom kernel and then spend 40 minutes setting it up before each play session it's just as good as a switch bro

trackpads are for mouse controls bro.

And they are horrible for that purpose. Meanwhile the switch 2 has dual mouse usage, on top of gyro controls, which has been described as extremely accurate by testers.

What are you talking about? You can use mice on the Deck, retard.

If you want to play Splatoon 1 online, then only CFWchads or Emulatorchads can do it

No playerbase>Switch 2 can't even run Cyberpunk above 40fps.
Yeah because the footage they showed was at 4k, it's not a 5090. There is gonna be a performance mode for 1080p/120fps

One runs Nintendo exclusives perfectly
The other two do not

the patent

Nigger Hall effect joysticks are not patented and have been around for ages.

Hall effect joysticks are a scam though since building a half-decent stick that won't mechanically drift is a thousand times more important. The Joycon drift issue was an outlier and was just a result of Nintendo having particularly retarded decisions on how much money to spend where.

Yes.
You also get to use 3 or more mouses, which is better than the Switch's offer.

Cope

...you are aware that the Deck has excellent gyro, right? You wouldn't be an ignorant fucking retard now, would you?

And suddenly it'll stop working, like everything on PeeCee.

Yes. And the Switch 2 has worse battery life than even the original Steam Deck.

dual mouse usage

Yeah I'm always playing a game and wishing that I had a second mouse. I just need to be able to point at two separate things at once so badly.

mouses

Valve Mumbai division everyone

What do you think the Switch 2 hardware is made of? Magic farts? Its the same hardware that's in PCs.

You can use mice on the Deck, retard.

You can only use one.

why?

It's a PC, not consolecancer you retarded nigger.

I see you stopped saying "pc vegans"

ESL retard

It's much more efficient due to using ARM architecture and not having to run a bloated OS for general computing. Cope.
See? This type of dishonesty and false promises is why people are leaving the platform.

finally I can immerse myself by playing cripple basketball with TWO mice

but why would i go through that trouble using mice on a handheld when I can just use a pc? This is the thing deck diehards fail to understand when trying to shill their console. Ultimately its not worth the hassle.

4k

Which it wasn't actually running in, it was upscaling via DLSS. Your machine isn't magic, sorry.

Never ever, Valvefag.

this but unironically

Retard
Mouses is completely acceptable as a plural to differentiate from the animal noun

Also, if you've reached the point where you have to start mentioning muh grammar, then you've already lost the argument

nope he's right and you're brown.

See? This type of dishonesty and false promises is why people are leaving the platform.

What dishonesty? Since le peecee boogeyman is an open platform, anything can work forever. Consoleshit on the other hand is a literal timebomb

Tell me, how do I play Mario 35 on my Switch 1? I could do it years ago but I can't do it now. Why did Nintendo break it for me?
Meanwhile, the game is still functional on PeeCee thanks to private servers

Deck sisters... our response?

Nintendo knows their audience

Yes. And the Switch 2 has worse battery life than even the original Steam Deck.

No, it doesn't. The switch 2 has a more efficient architecture and a battery with the same capacity (5200 mAh). It's just that nintendo is more honest when describing the "minimum" battery life.

Yeah, I totally need two monitors you overcompensating fuck

Yeah, because two internet tabs would make my experience soo much better, haha

you are the reason everything has stagnated so much that today's kids are playing N64 games.

Switch 2 can't upscale to 4K 60. Digital Foundry found that its DLSS upscaler takes 18ms to upscale to 4K which is longer than a single frame at 60 FPS.

Literally the first line on wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_mouse

MUH WIKIPEDIA

Want more fucking sources you nigger?

Oh no no no no

I can't wait to laugh at nintendotroons when their handheld barely reaches 2 million units sold in the first year.

Still can’t believe they did fucking nothing with this idea. They could apply this formula to so many of their games but instead decide to shit themselves.

Those are things you can make use of.
You cannot make use of two pointers because the speed of moving one pointer to a new location is the same as just changing your attention back to the other pointer. Meanwhile they need direct hand-eye coordination invalidating the ability to use both simultaneously.

thanks ChatGPT

What dishonesty? Since le peecee boogeyman is an open platform, anything can work forever.

Until it doesn't (like every other update where there's a critical bug), and you need to read 200 pages of documentation or wait 6 months for some neckbeard to write a patch you need to find on some obscure forum.

in the first world we say mice. Sorry

Windows on a handheld is absolute ass

Both the deck and rog ally have larger batteries.

I wish the Steam Deck's exterior didn't feel like cheap Chinese plastic.

They're not ARM

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I can't wait to laugh at nintendotroons when their handheld barely reaches 2 million units sold in the first year.

So that would be half of the dreck's lifetime sales. Now in reality it'll outsell the dreck in the first month.

Nigger, did you see Cyberpunk's performance? They upscaled from 720p on the lowest settings and still couldn’t manage to hit 60 FPS.
Their CPU isn't designed for AAA games.

Don't know what to tell you anon, but it never stopped working on my machine (unlike Mario 35)

hell first week. It's a nintendo console

Both the deck and rog ally have larger batteries.

The dreck has 5200 mAh, so does the switch 2. Now since the Switch 2 is much more power efficient, the dreck has lower battery life. On tope of that, you could slap an additional battery like the switch 1 and still have your console much more portable than the dreck.

Steam deck has gyro and switch 2 mouse is just regular shitty, cheap office mouse.

using chatGPT

Why are tendies so fucking dishonest? It's cult behavior at this point

I'm retarded

Yes, that's clear

Can your switch play team fortress 2, stalker, modded minecraft or cod mobile?

Steamdeck

specifically made with the steam ui in mind

can even use it as a steamlink for my tv

has improved life for linux 10 folds

Balatro

Switch 2

simple docking into tv mode

no doubt getting hacked within the year

ensurance that you can play all of Nintendo's games

Donkey Kong

Rog Ally X

has the highest price

hmmm yeah I wonder which to pick

You can't play mario 35 on your PC. I could for a few months. Best 60h of my life. Cope.

Correct, they're things I can make use of. You, however, are the target demographic that has trouble finding the power button on things. It's just amazing we ever settled on the mouse and keyboard layout with your thought process.

It's not the 2010s anymore. There are gazillion alternatives.
Nintendo is finished.

You can't play mario 35 on your PC

You can

I could for a few months

You can't now

Cope

Cyberpunk runs at 40 fps

2 hours max

power efficient

Its fucking arm.
But feel free to cope harder, retarded faggot.

Steam deck has gyro

Switch has double (technically triple) gyro.

switch 2 mouse is just regular shitty, cheap office mouse.

It's been described as very accurate by testers. Cope.

Ally X is obtainable if you go open box

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not even worth a (you)

Correct, they're things I can make use of.

No, it is fundamentally impossible to make use of, and I explained why.
Having some autism fit about how you totally could use this thing that doesn't exist and only STUPID people couldn't instead of thinking about why shit is or isn't usable is pure midwit garbage.

It's just playing up to what it knows you want to hear based on your input, user data and previous chats. It has already diagnosed you as redditor

or I can pick a steamdeck or switch 2 which are cheaper and work out of the box

thinks his x86 PeeCee is more energy efficient for games than an ARM custom designed console.

Kek, PeeCee fanboys never cease to amaze me.

It's been described as very accurate by testers.

all laser mice are accurate, retard.

Cope.

Projection.

*6.5 hours max

It's also not being upscaled to 4K

It has already diagnosed you as redditor

And it has already diagnosed you as a nintendo cultist
OOOOF

No, it is fundamentally impossible to make use of, and I explained why.

Yeah, people don't use both hands independently in their daily li .... oh wait.

More is not always better, why the fuck would i want three gyros?

desperate strawman

I accept your concession

all laser mice are accurate, retard.

Wrong.

with worse specs. congrats on cracking the code.

Triangulation leading to higher accuracy. Multi-tasking.

mere 2 hours

efficient

Delusional.

Do you realize that you can set a Steam deck on 5W and play every kind of emulated Mario game for 8+ hours?
Even Nintendo claims 6.5 hours max. You retards have no idea how efficient steam deck is for non-AAA games.

with worse specs.

it plays the games fine and works and is cheaper.
only reason to get a Rog is to be an asshole that goes "um akshually I have the better machine specs ayhuck"

On games like ahzek or minecraft.

It's been described as very accurate by testers. Cope.

There is literally no software on the switch that relies on accuracy enough to get a decent feel, and "testers" also just means Nintendo marketing.

all laser mice are accurate

Laser mice are a dogshit gimmick, but optical mice are essentially all accurate to the feel of the average person.

shitch let's play nintendo games that are just going to get rereleased in the future anyway as improved versions

'eck and ally let me play modded games and eroges for free

GEEEEEE I WONDER WHICH SYSTEM I SHOULD FUCKING PICK
The Switch 2 has already cucked every single Switch 1 faggot out there, there's no reason to not be a waitchad and just play on the alternative systems in the meantime

Only ancient ones.

Bloated OS

Yet Switch 2 is using an OS full of bloat that will become more bloated with firmware updates to try and stop people from playing pirated games on their console.
You can't talk about bloat when you don't even have the ability to adjust anything on your locked down console.

this is why Nintendo is Wintendo.
just a humble indie company that destroys all the other platforms with ease

burn through battery like jet fuel while ignore the switch 2's worse battery life

Disingenuous console fanboy coping to keep getting raped by their beloved corporation.

having to open an options menu and change something

ew...
that's like... icky
I want my to- i mean games console to just work and if you disagree you're an ugly nerd lol.....

an 80wh battery is nothing to sneeze at, before considering the actual better performance

No, it doesn't

Are you calling Nintendo a liar?

Honestly ROG Ally X wins cause battery and can play AAA games on high preset, too expensive though

says that

still faps to her bum later

i see through you, benchod

this thread sucks. just batshit insane heacanon from all sides

PC can use however many mouses a user wants, it to. Steam Deck isn't a PC, it's a Linux, and anyone who knows anything about Linux can make the Deck use whatever the fuck they want or install another distro or OS that they prefer.

okay, it's also 800 usd, I could get both a Steamdeck and a Switch 2 for 850 and they both offer more functionalities to me while running the games fine.
Or better yet, get a Switch 2 now and then wait for a new Steamdeck that will have all the steam deck functionalities and Steam QoL while having better specs.
liteally no reason to get a rog unless you want to pretend you're cool for owning something expensive.

and not having to run a bloated OS for general computing

Yes, Linux is very well known for being bloated and giving just terrible battery life to devices, totally.

That's while running games the dreck can't even run. The hardware facts can't be denied. It has a similar battery with much more efficient software utilisation. Call me when a phone uses x86 architecture.
The "6.5 hours max" is with wifi and bluetooth enabled and playing a more demanding game. You are coping, because you know that there is no physical way your x86 PC can be more energy efficient than an ARM console.

Laser mice are a dogshit gimmick

So you are fan of ball mice?

Yes, Linux is very well known for being bloated and giving just terrible battery life to devices, totally.

It is bloated compared to a console OS, yes.

You want to read the rest of that sentence?

Two hours of life is not efficient.

Incorrect. Not being retarded proprietary shit worked on by like 12 people maximum makes software better, not worse.

appeal to authority of fucking corpo

You stupid nigger 5W is 5W.
40 Wh / 5W = 8hr.

Basically. Modern Nintendo games almost exclusively suck compared to old shit, and you just know they’ll port them in the future. Waiting isn’t missing out on shit.

seething this hard

Good.
Stay mad, faggot.

Are you calling Nintendo a liar?

No, I'm just stating the facts about how it's impossible for the dreck to be more energy efficient based on hardware and OS limitations.
Those figures are not standardized and essentially meaningless, they probably include the full feature set (i.e. downloading games while playing with bluetooth earphones and using the nintendo switch camera and playing with peak brightness).

No playerbase

more than 0

than an ARM custom designed console

But Nintendo is using an off the shelf Nvidia chip.
The steam deck is a custom SOC though.

Can your gimped arm tablet run silent hill 2 remake or team fortress 2?

youtube.com/watch?v=a8MZBUoQt68

B-but technically I can play some NES game on emulator with a 5W limit for longer than you can use the switch with wifi and bluetooth enabled and higher brightness of the screen.

dumb.

And they are horrible for that purpose

...no they're not?
Are you speaking from actual experience or just making shit up?

muh energy efficiency

Can your fisher price tablet play games that aren't ports and aren't nintendo slop?
But nice cope and you always feel free to cope harder.

It can run everything the dreck can and beyond that, as it's more powerful.

don't forget to pay to raise the resolution and framerate :^)

Holy shit. 535 posts of burning tendie asshurt.

Are you speaking from actual experience or just making shit up?

Yes, as everyone who has ever used trackpads knows that they SUCK.

It can run what Nintendo allows it to run

Switch 2 is basically a slightly weaker but portable PS5 and this upsets the snoys and PC idiots

It's more powerful than the dreck. cope.

Same can be done on deck or any remotely modern device.
But you cannot not lower tdp, not without hacking.

PS3*

There's still many games that fundamentally run better on x86 architecture.
And for the record, the majority of the power draw is going to be on the graphics hardware which is not either.

PS4

ftfy

It does not need so much RAM, as it's not a PC. Cope, fucking retard.

No, ps4 or xbox s.

You can't play many modern games with 5W. And funny that suddenly hacking doesn't count.

has less ram

its more powerful

Cope harder.

i have a ram on my farm

PS4

having ray tracing at 4K 60

PS5

in your wet dreams, tendie.

Linux fucking sucks for games, and the games on the dreck are running on a compatibility layer, losing performance. cope more.

missing the obvious point

Low iq.
Learn to read.

Switch

having ray tracing at 4K 60

Proton literally gives higher framerates for pretty much anything more than a year or two old on the same hardware than windows, so no.

I'd pity tendies for nintendo fucking them so hard, but when they're this aggressively stupid, then whatever. They're begging for the dicking they're getting. When nintendo's last hardware line inevitably dies, they'll get filtered, who cares.

source: my ass

linux runs games better than native in many cases unless they implement outright hostile design like anything associated with epic

Cyberpunk is 4K 40 with RT

And you can circumvent nearly all of them without the Deck shitting its own pants.

No it doesn't.

something I don't comprehend is bad

many such cases

nintendotroon doesn't realize that his machine is using a mix of Linux and FreeBSD

many such cases.

Switch 2 has 1.8 teraflops and PS5 has 10.8 teraflops.
So Switch 2 is like PS0.5

It does not need so much RAM

Its arm, but its not my job to spoonfed retards.

teraflops

Bullshit Jewish numbers

Steam deck's game mode eliminates that problem, my friend.

Arm needs more ram than x86

Game mode makes you download more RAM

but when they're this aggressively stupid, then whatever

This is very, very clearly one sperg.

The 3DS has good ports of Monster Hunter.

He's not a tendie, he's an unpaid Indian microcock shill. He's been shitting up Linux threads here and on Anon Babble for years and the deck mindbroke him. People on Anon Babble found his r3ddit account where he posts on the linuxsucks and AskIndia subs

No, it means there's no overhead from it "being a PC".
It's just running the same amount of shit that the switch is running, resulting in similar background ram usage.

Switch 2 is basically a slightly weaker but portable PS5

But I thought that the PS5 was le bad? Why would tendies want a portable PS5 now?

Fanboys are all like that and they've been doing this for years. It's far from a unique case.

it's literally not
the switch 2 has an exclusive feature of trusting nvidia to do handhelds and they're already fucked by it as many people in this thread mentioned

Most aren't this mindbroken

haha ok bud :)

So the deck has good ports of Monster Hunter

teraflops this

teraflops that

they only matter when they support my narrative SWITCH 2 ALWAYS WINS BABY

Sega owns the patent to Hall Effect and anyone using them needs to pay Sega Sammy the rights to them. Like with HDMI. It is what it is.