He's right, you know

He's right, you know.

go back

nooo stop making things i don't like

literally who talking about literally who cares

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

What space ship card game is he talking about?

FPBP

I'll play 1000 cardslop games before one of his dogshit pretentious puzzle games

spends 10 years making a game about pushing boxes

Actually a very based take. Imagine being a guy that wants to start a video game studio and your debut indie game is a fucking rougelike deck builder. Just collapse this entire industry, indie scene is just as rotten as AAA at this point

Deck builders are such a boring genre and there's so many shitty copycats. It just feels like a lazy copout for indie devs these days.

seething that he's a nobody and his games are forgotten meanwhile Balatro is adored by millions

lol

begins with the premise that immersion is the only goal of video games, which represents more his mindset towards games than any objective view

be 10 years old in 2011

when I grow up I want to make a game like Skyrim :D

fast forward to today

your only options to get into the industry since everything is outsourced to India are indie startups making mobile games and roguelike deck builders

kek

This but for metroidvanias inspired by dark souls

suprisingly based for a twatter tranny, gameplayfags deserve to be publically executed

STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE

If only there was a way for guys like Jonathan Blowhard to make games that they actually enjoy...

im reading

sour grapes from op and ops picrel

angry zoomer takes

angry boomer takes

where are all the people who enjoy some cardslop and an occasional overwrought puzzleshit? what happened to the video game enjoyers?

games can immerse you in different worlds, the distant past, strange alternate realities or helming powerful spacecrafts in the far future

so lets make a game where you walk around a public park solving moblile games on an ipad

But what you like is fucking horseshit. Every fucking indie game is just the same homogenized faggy ass retard genres like roguelike deckbuilders and souls metroidvanias, it's despicable and gross

That's rich coming from a guy who made a game about lining up the lines or whatever the fuck it was in the witness

your only options to get into the industry since everything is outsourced to India are indie startups making mobile games and roguelike deck builders

Or you could... make your own game? It's easier than ever.

What game did this guy make exactly??

youtube.com/watch?v=gWqnz-7iQbY

I hate that i agree with jblow on something.
I fucking hate Anon Babble retards so much.
and retarded indie devs

BROO YOU GOTTA PLAY BOARD GAMES BRO

MY NAME IS EDWIN

Nobody likes those games, sister. Its that simple.

JBlow is right.

Indiefags need to be knocked down a few pegs, they're making glorified mobile slop but have gotten into their heads they're the saviors of gaming sticking it to "tha man"

There's not a single indie game on the quality level of a SNES or PS1 or PS2 classic, not a single one

well Jonathan, maybe games like that aren't popular because the ones that do come out like Starfield are horseshit

he kinda spittin tho

calling sokoban puzzles pretentious

wat

There's not a single indie game on the quality level of a SNES or PS1 or PS2 classic, not a single one

Braid? The Witness?

Nigga how the fuck are you supposed to make a game like Skyrim by yourself?

Holy shit this guy's autistic as fuck.

Ask /adgd/

what game or games is he even talking about?

ah yes, the game development general that has never produced anything
experts in their field

Skyrim really isn't hard in terms of fundamental features, it'd just be a massive asset grind.

all games should be fantasy or scifi RPGs

The best thing about indie games is anybody can make one in whatever genre they want. Don't like card games? Just don't buy them, you can even filter out genres you don't like from suggestions and search results on steam. It's even stupider for Jonathan Blow to complain because he has the skills and knowhow to make his own games but just chooses not to.

uh they have though

You clearly haven't played Braid and The Witness or even heard how autistic JBlow is.

They're /ourguys/, don't talk shit about /adgd/ ever again.

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made-by-agdg.vercel.app/

Probably some digital mtg expansion

Funny how no one applies this mentality to AAA games

Games can immerse you in different worlds, the distant past, strange alternate realities, or helming powerful spacecraft in the far future...

... so let's make all these games where, instead of putting you in a powerful craft in space, we pretend you are at a deserted island drawing lines on oversized tablets.

THIS SHIT CALLED BRAID IT'S ABOUT THIS LITTLE GUY IN A SUIT

vagante was by /agdg/

based, loved that shit

anybody can make one in whatever genre they want

Except 99% of the manpower of the indie gaming space is dedicated to disgusting slop trash like streamerbait coop horror games, roguelike deckbuilders, early access survival crafts, etc... maybe they should be focused on making good and fun games instead of bad and boring games? Just a thought

I'd honestly prefer if there more unhinged autistic people like Blow instead of the trannies we have running the industry now.

card games are a timeless component of the human experience unlike the passing fad of slop that is video games
its only natural for an inferior medium to desperately grasp at greatness

to not grasp the pleasure of holding cards and rolling dice quiet simply makes you sub-human

why aren't they catering to ME specifically

kek a literal toddler

space food truck.

I agree, devs like Jonathan Blow should try making good games instead of crying on Twitter.

retard slop guzzler cannot comprehend that people with good taste want good games

Blame the market. If some of the games in those genres hadn't made literal billions, we wouldn't have copycats trying to get in on the grift.
Those people never would have made anything with a soul anyway.

yeah instead they cater games to their retarded tranny clique and just expect general audiences to go along with it.

Braid? The Witness?

are both shit?

Jealously isn't a good look.

The Enderal devs did it

He's just saying that the creativity of the industry is being misused. Fucking moron

They hate him because he tells the truth

What your father did years ago:
Get a job
Get a house
Get a wife
Create a family
Economically support a retard

What you have done:
Fuck all
Give your mother a depression

the worst part about this webm being reposted 5 million times is that the person doing this minigame fucking sucks, like sure it's cringe and shitty and the game is fucking awful but holy fuck
how can someone be THIS bad at video games

Sounds like there's a high demand for deck builders so studios are going to make deck builders. This industry exists to make money, not art.

Sorry xister did I hit close to home? I'm sure the money you'll make from your mascot platformer with PS1 aesthetics will be enough to pay for your gender affirming care <3

Damn this guy blows.

nobody WANTS TO PLAY DECK BUILDERS
YOU FUCK
just LET ME SELECT THINGS FORM A GOD DAMMED MENU
NOT EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PART OF ONE FUCKING VIDEO GAME NEEDS TO BE MADE INTO A DIFFERENT FUCKING GAME
I DONT WANT YOUR FAGGOT JEW GAMBLING OR TRADING CARD HORSESHIT
FUCK YOU

Maybe he should've done something about it instead of making 2 (two) games since 2008

Uh, yeah they do because they sell well? Have you taken your brain pills?

high demand

like 99% of them fail, clearly these retards overestimated how popular they are. Maybe they should try to make a good game instead of chasing trends like a soulless creature?

He's right, it's been like a decade and no one has made something as simple as Ace Combat in space since Square Enix of all people tried it on the fucking Xbox 360

so posting a checkmarked twitter account can be considered advertising because they get money from engagement, right

a depression

good morning saar

He's right, fuck deckbuildslop

like 99% of them fail

Do they? These aren't AAA live service games, they have an extremely modest budget so the return on investment isn't nearly as hard to achieve.

Where even are these deckbuilding games?
I swear I don't know a single on that gets discussed at all.
Farming sims are a way fucking bigger pandemic. I'm so fucking tired of these quirky chungus indie devs making le heckin wholesome crop picking simulator where you can romance the ugliest creatures known to man.

Pretty much anything below 6000 reviews on Steam indicates that it's a flop

yes
but on the other hand rapeape follows Anon Babble screencap reposters so probably not

yea fuck cards

unfortunate, but reminds me of the mod-approved affiliate links populating Anon Babble "chinkshit general" threads

The one time I agree with this faggot. Card games are so dogshit.

no they should be fps or tps

Well people with good taste should buy them or make them then since the market forces are instead pushing for things they don't like.

If you like playing with fucking cards as a video game why not just play solitaire and stop raping the indie games industry for the rest of us?

mod-approved affiliate links

just so we're concerned here, you're talking about fags sneaking in affiliate links and not doing a wacomschizo bit or some shit right

I wouldn't mind deck builders at all if they just kept the roguelite faggotry away from it.

no i'm talking about (assumedly) mods using affiliate links for stuff in /csg/ on Anon Babble and deleting or banning people that complain about it

toddler post

john blow drinks his own piss

this guy literally got mindbroken by soulja boy saying his game was bad lmao

What market forces? It's not like these games sell amazingly. There's like 1 that gets popular every 5 years and the rest never recoup their costs.
Meanwhile they keep saturating the market to such an extent, it's impossible to find anything good in a sea of roguelite deckbuilding games.

it's true

man, that does explain why every top thread on Anon Babble is a fucking twitter screencap though

people with good taste are too retarded to use the search function

lmao

The initial assertion:

you have the ability to do literally anything

make a video game version of something that only exists because of the limitations of reality, read: mtg

Digital card games (read: solitaire) have been a thing for so long because they’re a lot more convenient than actually messing with a deck of cards. But slay the spire is not a digitization of a card game, neither is whatever that bullshit joker game is called. Those games wouldn’t be possible with a real deck of cards. Which loathe as I am to admit.

But here’s the kicker. This isn’t a new thing. This wasn’t invented by slay the spire. A super famicom dbz game had the exact system slay the spire uses and it FAILED. Everyone hated it. Because no one wanted to just wait around to draw the kamehameha card, they wanted to control goku and nuke frieza. That was somewhere between 1990 and 1992.

nobody WANTS TO PLAY DECK BUILDERS

If they didn't then we wouldn't be having this conversation based on one getting big.

Thanks doc.

Indieslop

Why hasn't this faggot killed himself yet?

You don't actually get to physically hold the cards roll the dice if it's a videogame though. So it's just a worse version of the real thing instead of a unique thing that can't be experienced outside of the medium of videogames.

Good to see we as a whole have become more sophisticated and mature

99% of those devs wouldn't be able to make a good game, hence why they are chasing trends. You're under the false assumption the indie industry isn't 99% shit developers.

No ones trolled bro

in a sea of roguelite deckbuilding games

Where are you searching because I never see any that aren't Balatro.

Jonathan Blow has such retarded ideas sometimes.
Why should immersion necessarily be more important than rules? Is Tetris bad because it doesn't immerse you in a parallel reality? And why does immersion have to be in realities alien to our own? Are realistic simulators not good because they put you in normal situations?

A super famicom dbz game had the exact system slay the spire uses and it FAILED

They made three of them thoughbiet.

Yes, the card system the shitty dbz game had was because the shovelware developers couldn’t make an actual game that vaguely resembled the anime/manga.

When you think about it, Deckbuilders are just JRPGs that insert RNG to keep you from mashing your ability of choice every round.
The RNG nature also means losses are easier to explain away.

craving smart card plays instead of just pressing B to Kamekameha Frieza over and over again is indicative of a better society

I only played one, and only because they stopped dbz dubs for the fifth time, were they all card games?

yes he's right
cards are gay

Don’t the recent ones use a later street fighter system where you have to survive to build up to the mega attacks?

meanwhile he makes games about drawing lines and an extremely blase, "uno-reverso you're the bad guy" kitsch platformer

Virtual cards are far more convenient when you can’t shuffle worth a damn, believe me.

Games can immerse you in different worlds, the distant past, strange alternate realities, or helming powerful spacecraft in the far future... that is why I am making a Sokoban game

I don't entirely disagree, but it's still a completely retarded angle. Like all the digital deck builder card game nonsense of any theme doesn't somehow remove the potential existence of a game of that theme. Someone who makes a fucking spaceship digital card game was never going to make a regular spaceship game and just did a card game instead because it's popular. It's a completely different appeal. That person was always going to make some kind of digital board game.

Why did Jimbo cause so much seethe in the indie scene?

I have absolutely no clue what he's talking about, but he's so condescending and obnoxious when making his point I disagree on principle.

This

He's right. I'm tired of seeing an indie game with a neat art style or premise and then finding out it's some bland deck builder, base crafting, farm sim, roguelite, metroidvania, or any of the other basic ass templates all indie devs follow these days.

Cuphead is on the level of an SNES classic. I agree there aren't many though.

You're just being dazzled by the visuals, the actual gameplay is ass.

Card games are not videogames, he is correct. The indie market is more consolidated than muh dreaded 7th gen brown military shooter era, there's like 3 successful indie games (StS, Hades and Stardew Valley) and every other indie game is a ripoff of one of those three.

card games are boring

The gameplay is very good. Filtered.

Don't forget hollow knight and shovel knight.

According to Blow's reasoning, science fiction is the pinnacle of literature. That retarded Youtube Jazza's brother is a better writer than Dostoevsky.

Star Realms is legitimately a good deck builder game.

Not what he said

Are you retarded or just ESL?

Thank you. Snoop made Jon Blowhard cry without trying.

i will admit balatro is a bit of an exception because it's got puzzle game elements to it it is not simply a digital adaptation of a tabletop game. that, at least, is a video game.

Honestly I don’t know of many Shovel Knight copycats.
It’s like everyone instead looked at Celeste and said "yes, spikes on everything and autistic speed tech will sell our game."

He's right but he's also a pathetic faggot.

I think that one comes from super meat boy.
Also, I forgot binding of isaac. Another plague of a game.

The actual gameplay is on par with a mega man run without using any powers.

Blow doesn't understand that vidya is now the equivalent of slot machines, you're catering to the 99% of mindfucked normies who were never into games to begin with.

I think Isaac has been supplanted by Hades now as the thing to imitate, same as how StS got supplanted by Balatro, or Shovel Knight was supplanted by Hollow Knight

Cobalt Core is a space ship card game and another just released called Lodestar which is also (kind of) a card game

Why make this point about cards?
Tabletops simulation should have died in the 90s but negative IQ old people (over 30) need their turn-based vomit

Nigger stop blaming the industry when the reality is you've got tiny heart syndrome and can't be assed to try to make a game. The vidya industry is insanely easy to get into. Every tool you need is free. The closest thing to a start up cost is a hundred bucks to publish your game on Steam (and if you can't even afford that much there's always itch.io).

Sad but true

I'd agree except every grand idea game devs have these days is just more fucking generic sci fi and Slay the Spire and Balatro were two of the funnest games I've played this decade

Yeah cool Assassins Creed can take me to a time period but what's the point when it's not fucking FUN. I don't want to hear this shit from the retard who gave us the witness.

Sorry but card games are eternal kino. My grandmother still plays her 20 year old copy of Hoyle Card Games 2005 because she doesn't like any others as much.

The things that make games immersive and engrossing aren't necessarily putting yourself in someone else's shoes.

He's actually right for once.
God I fucking hate CARDNIGGERS

He almost sounds like he has a point. Jonathan Blow will be forever the king of midwits.

I think the real problem is we keep calling almost every single piece of interactive media a video game when we really could use more ways to delineate the medium, kinda like how you understand a novel and a comic serialisation are both books, but you know they're completely different things.

People have used "walking simulator", "movie game" and such as points of derision but it really doesn't need to be this way.

Serikat :3

The point being? Absolute needless meddling.

Just don't play cardslop. Are you really running out of games to play, anon? Your backlog not big enough already?

Didn't happen. Blow doesn't cry, and the scene of him in a dark room has no connection to Snoop Dog, except that the editor spliced them together.

how did a fun, simple, pleasing game like balatro mind rape this many people
it's unreal how much it's exposed absolute bottom of the curve retards

Do all black people look like Snoop Dogg to you, you fucking racist?

LOL, my bad my sweet kang please forgive this humble whiteboi

He's not talking about balatro retard

The second tweet is obviously referencing Balatro

I do dislike card shit in my vidya

Here is to you, Jonathan

youtube.com/watch?v=Ce-QZ2mSq54

What's the problem with that tweet? He's just pointing out that slopdie devs will try to imitate Balatro now and fail, it's not an insult to Balatro, same as how pointing out that imitating Tarkov is not a good idea is not an indictment of Tarkov itself.

this is the reading comprehension of people who agree with jblow

Jeet or tranny, call it.

calling it Anon Babble crossposter

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Jealousy!
Somebody help me!
Stop this jealousy!
Jealousy!

He's not complaining about Balatro. Balatro did not "mind rape" him. He's complaining about the many cardslop games that have followed Balatro. For example space games, where there's a "world" that is depicted extremely lazily through a bunch of shitty cards.
You disgust me. Your comprehension is at fault here, not mine, you glib faggot.

made-by-agdg.vercel.app/

games with cute girls on the cover that still sold like 5 copies

damn what are some of these devs doing. forget honor just shill your shit on Anon Babble like the rest of the animals

Some people are mad that an indie game is getting more positive attention than their AAA darling of choice. Other people are angry because they think indie games need to be 3deep5u and that a fun little card game is somehow preventing indie games from being TRUE art. I just respect that the guy actually made a game instead of just talking about doing it.

when you reply like this it's so obvious you feel like a retard for missing the point on the second tweet yet you don't wanna admit you're a retard so you just lash out. i accept your concession. go back to getting stuck in jai's dev hell, jonathan

No. You disgust me and I wanted to tell you that.

concession accepted

The eternal cry of the butthurt pseud. You can't even respond to what I said. The tweet is not about Balatro. It's about the games that followed Balatro.

There's not a single indie game on the quality level of a SNES or PS1 or PS2 classic, not a single one

Pizza Tower is the only game aside from Sonic 3 that contends for the title of best 2D platformer ever. Nothing else comes close.

What means to say is he accepts your confession.
He's just acting like a tsundere baka.
Now go fag eachother off somewhere else please.

what is he even talking about?

the sound of cards being shuffled makes me cum, which is something he'll never be able to offer his wife

Specifically? Probably Lonestar or Cobalt Core
Generally, the massive number of failed roguelike deckbuilders that came out after Slay the Spire and were maybe going to finally start tapering off if not for the success of Balatro.

He's 100% correct

You don't have the cards

ain't no point to the game, man

you never discard the uh, going back in time card

is there a list like this but for Anon Babble devs? Because there's a bunch of games whose progress gets posted here on Anon Babble but isn't in that list so I assume those devs don't post on Anon Babble.