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This game is going to be Concord 2
MARATHON ALPHA IS A DISASTER
methcast guy
WHAT THE FUCK SONYBROS?
YOU TOLD ME THIS TIME WE HAD IT. YOU PROMISED ME!!!!!
Works fine for destiny desu.
less than 2000 people playing a new release from Bungie
VICE link
2011+14
Archive that, sh*rtfaggot.
Ignore this schizo those links grab your IP. Use this link
vice.com
it's pretty bad. so many reused Destiny animations and sounds it's shocking. people complaining about the aim assist on PC because it's the only way the retards figured they could balance cross play. it's a fucking mess. people play extraction shooters specifically because they are complex, I don't think ANYONE wants "tarkov for retards" and normalfags don't want to lose their gear at all. It's a game for nobody
give vice the ad revenue saar
fuck off newfag
kill yourself
Wow, the 0.001% trannies are upset that there's aim assist? Oh no, our sales guys...
wow
Maybe the ugliest game from a AAA studio I've ever seen. The artstyle is just rancid
Im having fun and you can't stop me
Ignore this schizo those links grab your IP. Use this link
Sony really went all in on the Fisher Price plastic look for all their future games
we literally can by not buying the game so it gets cancelled
nade magnetism from 100+ meters away
lol
lmao
the aim assist is the least of their problems
chem grenades are really underrated
you can throw them fucking miles and they ping, reduce heals and make footprints on enemies
claymores are pretty good too to stick on body bags
only <15k got into the alpha on all platforms
They've given at least 10k keys every day since it started
we are on day 3
only <15k got into the alpha on all platforms
less than half of that even bother to try that
1/7th of those people remain
Concord 2 inbounds
Concord 2
This won't be confirmed unless the next 'anyone can play for free' beta test has less players.
why are all the movement and gun animations so bad? it's fine if the game is slow but there's no tactile feeling to what's being shown
There is way too much shilling for it to be Concord 2
OG Marathon Trilogy is a heavily story focused FPS that also acts as a sequel to Pathways Into Darkness
Gee what if we re-used the Marathon name on something that Sony specifically told us to make due to to their mandate of having live service games, oh also make it a MP-only extraction shooter
Absolutely baffling that they are calling this Marathon, given that aesthetically, narratively and genre-wise it's absolutely nothing like the original entries.
Extraction shooter
targeting the casual crowd
Aim assist will drive away the hardcore extraction players
Casual crowd won't be interested in a game that where you often die and lose your gear
Bungie is designing the game so that you have to play with others and solo play will such
also no proximity chat because muh toxicity.
Buncha fags have no idea what they're doing and this is going to fail miserably.
How did they make such a fucking ugly game
absolutely baffling
Not really, imo. Bungie already had the Marathon trademark (they're sure as fuck not turning Myth into a shooter, even if they did still own the copyright), it's 'gun-based', so they can turn it into whatever, and it started back in 2020 when Jim Ryan still had his throbbing erection for live service slop.
I like the art style myself but it only works in that cinematic trailer
long range faggotry
Tactical shooters were a mistake
Real men run and gun
Shroud is a gaylord
Destiny PvP is first of all genuinely fucking awful, and secondly if you did want destiny PvP you could just play destiny.
I actually played the OG marathon games during the downtime and this isn't marathon, more like a bog standard extraction slop with transplanted destiny shootan
maybe that's exactly what bungiefags want, I dunno.
I like the art style myself but it only works in that cinematic trailer
if it completely falls apart in gameplay then it isn't good
Yeah, I knew the stamina system would be a problem. This is looking to be a disaster in the making but will it be worst than FairGame$ when that releases if it will?
we are so back android bros (2m captcha kek) (thanks god for that)
they were working on a game called "matter" at some point. it had to have been this but they just adjusted it to yoink some stuff from marathon later
what Bungiefags want
the pitiful numbers Marathon is pulling in its alpha
clearly not, lmao
Doesn't mean it's bad entirely, just that they were stupid to pick an art style that doesn't work for the main thing they were doing (a game).
If Sony still releases Fairgame$ at this point after seeing Concord and Marathon both fail, they will cement themselves as the stupidest motherfuckers in gaming this decade.
What's so bad about it?
Doesn't mean it's bad entirely,
just that they were stupid to pick an art style that doesn't work for the main thing they were doing (a game).
this does, in fact, make it bad
Why does it look like Battlebits?
I really love the artstyle it looks so slick and modern bungie really cooked with this one!
It's bad for the game because they can't make it look as good as that expensive cinematic trailer. But the trailer proves it could work as a webseries or something, just as long as they calm the fuck down on some of those jarring camera angles.
Bungie just played Synthetik and thought 'let's do this, but worse'
Sony closed down its Japanese studios and blew 4 billion dollars just for this piece of shit to crash everything LMAO
This, is a quality post.
Good title.
Posted an article, video, and used a relevant picture for the topic of your thread.
You could have posted a paragraph about your thoughts on Marathon, but otherwise, very nice post OP.
As for Marathon, I don't see why anyone cares. Hardly anyone played it back then, they sure as shit don't play it now, anyone that unironically enjoys Marathon is lying, or honest to God doesn't know any better. Why they would use the Marathon name for a game that has nothing to do with the original games, as well as being an extraction shooter, is just plain silly.
Eh, retards here are looking for another Tortanic/Concord and grifters for something new to be making "content" about for an easy buck.
The game will be improved until launch but will still feel pretty basic since it clearly got rebooted at some stage in development. It will launch to middling reviews and do decently well and then over time with player feedback get improved and upgraded to at least Destiny levels of player engagement. This is 100% what will happen.
It's just a shame it's live service slop. I actually prefer how this plays to what I played from Destiny. I would've loved this as a sp game with a mp mode but I guess those days are gone...
I like it, it's very inspired and unique.
Considering the numbers of something like Tarkov it's already a casual crowd sort of genre.
Bungie didn't want to lose the IP. So they decided to lose the entire studio instead KEK
You could have posted a paragraph about your thoughts on Marathon, but otherwise, very nice post OP.
I have not played it so I can't really give an opinion that wouldn't mirror what was already in the url and video
The game will be improved until launch
If you think a shit dev studio like Bungie can perform miracles in mere 4 months....I have a bridge to sell you.
These devs spent years making this ugly low effort crap. 4 more months won't do shit. Chances are Sony will either delay and release as F2P or outright cancel it completely to avoid another Concord embarrassment.
the first 2 words of your post will suffice, anon. stop defending dogshit
did you know that all platform means more than just Steam?
I don't really care about the artstyle at least it lends itself to being optimized. FFS the alpha is 6GB and the game runs on everything. The gameplay though? Fucking atrocious. Marathon has no identity and we're just supposed to believe that an ARG, something that only appeals to 21 people in NA, is going to be the hook for continuing to play. It's only the alpha and already they expect people to want to grind faction reputation like this is WoW. For those reasons I don't see the game doing well and especially because it's going to be outclassed on release by Borderlands 4 for PvE players and Arc Raiders for extraction fans. That's from The Finals devs aka Battlefield devs so at least there's a chance it's like Generation Zero but possibly good.
I like it
improved by launch
They said they're launching in September, which is four and a half months from now. They're shipping it on consoles and PC, which means they need at least one month at an absolute minimum to do all the bullshit testing and review stuff Sony and MS are going to ask for. And they probably need a full month just to polish and fix bugs. So that leaves two months to make the rest of the game's content. Two months is fucking nothing. They're cooked.
Do you know they have been giving 10k keys away every day since the Alpha started?
why is everyone suddenly hyped for Borderlands 4? this has to be some astroturfing campaign.
everyone shat on 2.5 and turboshat on 3, again, shat on Wonderlands and now suddenly 4 is the ultimate fuck you to Marathon?
where did you get that info?
Bungie is a trash studio and has been since the day they split off from MS. Only an incompetent operation like Sony would look at this 1-IP studio and think "yeah, that's worth several hundred million dollars".
if Marathon is Concord 2, then Fairgame$ will be Concord 3
Destiny is my guilty pleasure and I'll never forgive bungie for siphoning resources away from that game for years to focus on marathon. After TFS I quit, their future plans made it clear destiny was no longer a priority for them.
Now D2 is floundering, and marathon is about to release to middling reviews and player engagement. What was it all for? I refuse to give them money until they get their shit together. Sony fucked up big time.
They have been giving all content creators who have been covering the game keys to give away
sony shit
FLOP SO HARD
no shit
because if you ignore the cancer story it's legitimately a decent coop shooter there was a huge quality uplift in 3 so it does feel fun to play. I pirated 3 and played it in a LAN party over a weekend and it was solid. It's also conventionally a complete game on release unlike anything Bungie has ever made since Halo. It's less about Borderlands being good but rather being a value comparison people are going to make
this doesn't answer my question.
70$ for Borderlands 4 on release is a tough sell.
it all depends on how well the open beta does for Marathon.
I'm expecting it to go pretty well if they don't cuck themselves by disabling 50% of the content
"where did you get that info"
"here is where I got that info"
"you didn't answer my question"
are you autistic by any chance?
hes full of shit
theres 18k people in the alpha access discord out of 150k in the entire channel
The only reason I missed Anon Babble was the neverending absolute dunking Marathon is getting
they are giving 10k keys every single individual day since the reveal
where did you get that info?
they gave some keys to content creators
unknown number of keys ≠ 10k keys every day
you have to be in the discord at all times to play the alpha
are you retarded anon?
at all times
are you?
you realise that you can see offline channel members on discord, right?
Shroud said it was part of a 10k a day giveaway
I can't even......
You realize you don't have to be a member of that discord to play the game right? You zoomers are so obsessed with discord you think it is the end all be all for everything. I can't even......
link it
actually post a source to your claim
you do.
streamers don't give access codes YOU FUCKING RETARD.
they are giving priority codes that give much better chance of getting the actual alpha code.
to get the alpha code, you need to access it through the discord bot.
You literally do you massive retard.
I will stop responding to you now
never heard of it
have to wait 2 minutes for every post
fuck sake
the pitiful numbers Marathon is pulling in its alpha
yeah the closed alpha fucking hardly anyone is getting codes for thats a very good indicator
thats like posting steam charts for a single player game
streamers don't give access codes YOU FUCKING RETARD
youtube.com
Marathon Alpha TODAY!!! (Alpha Code Giveaways HERE)
I accept your concession
You do not zoomer retard. You get your code if thats where you got it from and leave the server just like every other company that gives discord based giveaways retard
I whiffed another one right after this, there's no fucking nade magnetism lmao
yeah the closed alpha fucking hardly anyone is getting codes for thats a very good indicator
I remember this same cope used for Concord lmao
48:00
YOU FUCKING RETARD
Anyone who saw the gameplay reveal knew it was gonna be bad. And they also knew aim-assist was gonna be there, and be bad.
Normalfags just delude themselves and try to force fake-fun because the thought of playing anything not new makes them have an existential crisis.
people who actually play bungie games have complained that they're ripped straight from halo and destiny. cope and seethe, your criticism is literally invalid
I don't think it's a tough sell BL's just a big consistent franchise anon. The Marathon beta should do very well for what it is and that's why there's so much hate because this is a team with unlimited resources choosing to make this very limited safe game besides the artstyle. It's going to have an audience either way but people want cool ass mechanics and/or tons of content. Personally I wanted more reliance on hip shooting and movement but the heat meter tells me there's no intention to go that direction. If they want an arcade extract game go full arcade fuckin marvel rivals and overwatch are still trucking along with no ADS or sprint
fog
make copy of gun autism game
have no gun autism
ok fag
literally says that's what he is doing today but on Friday he will have actual codes
kek you didn't even bother listening to the entire thing
If you PCfags were relevant then developers would pander to you. But they don't. Enjoy your dying platform.
is it weird that While I don't think the game will be great every time I see people talk about it I think "whoa if I was a dev of this and saw this I'd kill myself" :<
I'm not going to pretend that there wasn't a better game to be made with the 300 people that were supposedly involved in this project.
that's my biggest gripe with these studios - every single fucking one of them is creatively bankrupt, because the people who went into game design only did it because they like playing games.
however, I do think that what we are going to get on release will be a game that's unlike anything that has come before, but not because the mechanics are unique or anything, but because the general idea for the game is (and I'm not talking about quasi-extraction-shooter with heroes). I don't want to say much more, but I think it will be interesting to see what becomes of it.
as for Borderlands 4 - I don't know, I was one of those people who enjoyed Borderlands 3, even its story and presentation, but 4 does nothing for me.
kek I don't think you realize how little bunghole devs care about their job the games they work on or what consumer slaves think it has no impact on their livelihood the devs are busy keeping track of when the ceo is going to fire another 100 people to buy a mansion and how to force tranny propaganda on you
we MIGHT have some on Friday
literally admits that his title is clickbait
LOOK AT THIS PROOF!!! 10K FULL-GAME CODES EVERY SECOND!!!
What the fuck is that design, and why it reminds me of Concord, although Concord was 100% repulsive.
good
fuck bungie
randomized weather, sometimes it's sunny, sometimes it's stormy and heavy rain etc
watched how seagull played that game for a couple of hours (intro). Thought gunplay was alright, but the small backpack and acid art artstyle was annoying as fuck. I never really played extraction shooters or BRs much, so I guess I'm just not the core audience.
The only reason I missed Anon Babble was the neverending absolute dunking Marathon is getting
This. The difference between the art style in the prerendered trailers and the actual gameplay is unbelievably awful.
Yeah when the first alpha impressions dropped, I was so sad to miss out on Anon Babble
Extraction shooters seems like the most anti-normalfag genre you could get with a shooter.
sweaty gameplay, so casuals get eaten alive
forced collaboration (at least in Marathon), so solofags can't even play
losing everything on death, so the only way to make meaningful progress is to git gud
The game screams 'normalfag repellant.' I don't know what Sony is thinking letting Bungie make this.
I am grateful to Marathon artstyle because it labels everything. Thank god the vent says vent on it
The most common criticism I see is:
"who is this for?"
The game tries to appeal to the casuals while having hardcore extraction shooter mechanics, which are also watered down.
I don't think it will do well at launch.
every stream i look at there is fuck all happening. at least tarkov has some atmosphere and tension to go with the nothing happening-ness of the genre
Bungie went from the Halo trilogy (ODST & Reach included) to this streamerbait slop. What sad times we live in.
We'll always have old-Halo.
4 billion dollars well spent by Jimbo Ryan!
I still can't believe that retard spent $4b on Bungie as some kind of panicked clap back to MS buying Activision. Absolute madness.
4 billion spent
results after 3 years are 2 dlc for a pre-existing game, and 1 game that is going to crash
I think of like 20 AA or indie studios sony could have funded with that shit and wonder what went wrong
Sony Japan manages to release ONE game on barebones budget and wins GOTY whereas Concord 2.0 will bomb everywhere.
That's damning proof that Sony Japan needs to revoke Sony America's decision making power.
At this point with the rumours of Halo coming to Playstation my sole remaining wish for the series' future is for the MCC to be made a PS+ game. The population explosion would be fucking glorious (and I'd finally get to play Halo again with one of my old buddies who bought a PS5 while I got a PC).
Jesus I've not seen that gif in like 16 years.
Damn I didn't even think about a population boost from halo dropping on PS, that'd be great
Why are you using web.archive.org for news webpage? Just use archive.is
Actual faggot
Sony gets to do a massive flex of giving all of its playerbase access to its biggest competitor's most iconic IP
Microsoft gets a big fat paycheque from Sony
Halo fans get to enjoy their favourite games getting absolutely flooded with new players
Literally everybody wins in this scenario.
Well microsoft still loses by having a console that nobody has a reason to own, but they've long conceded that by this point.
This too is an xbox
I've heard rumours/wild speculation that the next Xbox is going to abandon the traditional 'games console' format and instead will essentially be a Microsoft-branded revival of the Steam Machine idea, being a straight-up gaming PC in your living room running a custom gamepad-and-TV-friendly interface - and it will have Steam available. Which would honestly be a genius masterstroke if they can make each unit profitable without being prohibitively expensive for the consumer, who cares about the concept of console exclusivity when your machine plays all of your competitor's biggest "exclusives" as well?
legit doesn't look any different from apex slop except some more vibrant color pops
Well that might have been the plan before the economics of building such a device became laughable, theres no way the supposed neXtbox doesn't cost like $1200 usd minimum
Not even popular on Twitch too. Only getting around 12K despite.
That was their plan with the Xbone. The 'One' was supposed to be 'input 1' on your TV, because the Xbox would be your new cable box, vidya console, blu-ray player, and all that. I shit you not.
MS knows the real money is the normalfag market, and they want everyone - people who just watch tv and movies, gamers, little kids, old people, whatever. They want to 'own the living room.'
I don't follow media, but isn't vice a major site, positive thinking and shit? Has it become socially acceptable to publish bad opinions of a Sony game?
there's been a slight cultural shift so these faggoty "news" sites are slowly changing tune.
AFAIK consoles have, in terms of raw hardware, been basically just PCs running on some flavour of proprietary software for a while now and are generally significantly cheaper than trying to build a PC with the same level of power. The likes of Microsoft and Sony are signing contracts with suppliers for literally millions of graphics cards/drives/RAM sticks/etc when they make a new console, I imagine they get some very handsome discounts per unit compared to the individual components being sold directly to consumers.
THis will never happen, they will bot their own beta if they have to
Bad headlines about playercount during the beta will kill this game
Whats he saying about this game
Let me guess, the most lukewarm non-opinion possible to sit on the fence and see where it goes
The game will be improved until launch
the game will launch with one map and like 3 heroes. it wont be improved.
but muh gunplay!
yes it plays like a bogstandard FPS in 2025, congrats. there are only dozens of other games that shoot exactly like Marathon. so what appeal does it have again? the shitty lego roblox art style?
I thought they said you can queue up solo, but you will be playing vs teams (since no actual solo q)? And not that youre forced into cooping with randos
I disagree. If Sony had the ability to fake numbers with bots, why the hell wouldn't they have done it with Concord when they were already spending hundreds of millions of dollars?
what appeal does it have
I think Bungie is counting on a unique art style to set it apart from other games (say what you want, but there's no confusing Marathon with other games with that style) and some kind of misguided belief that the extraction shooter genre is ripe for disruption.
I thought that too, then I saw more videos about the game where people like ShillUp said he was told by Bungie directly that solo isn't a thing and while you could theoretically join a game on your own, the game isn't designed for it at all and you'd get your ass kicked.
you can, but the game has high TTK & reviving of both downed and DEAD teammates which means soloing is nonviable
god i love ironyposting
I was not planning on playing this game but just wanted to say how much I fucking hate pc faggots.
crossplay is a fucking meme. fuck pc, they will just hack n cheat like always anyway. insufferable niggers I tell ya’.
marathon wants the casual audience
6k players out of a concordillion people subbed to their discord
meanwhile Rocket League without cars got 130k peak in 2 days during its 4 day beta period.
grey low-res ambient environments
simplistic cell shaded character design
destiny2's recycled particle effects rendering pipeline
UI clutter up the ass
low complexity gameplay environments devoid of geometry filled with huge blocks of blank neon saturated colors
Can't hit stable 60fps at 1440p native, on PCs which cost as much as a car and the game comes out in a few months.
Snoysisters, Bungie sissies, what did you mean by this?
upset that another playstation movie went to PC anon?
Retards I'm not even a bingie shill not that was a fucking closed alpha they sent 20k invites on app consoles
The game will be improved until launch
There's four months left until launch. There will be no significant content changes or additions, nor gameplay changes. This is crunch time -- bug fixes, performance optimization (assuming they bother ... though Sony/MS/Ninty are likely to be the "enforcers" on that side of things), QA, compliance, licensing, etc.
Sad to say they won't be adding anything to the game from here. They might fix bugs, but you're not going to see new maps, characters, game modes or anything like that compared to what's in the Alpha unless they've deliberately cut existing stuff from it prior to launch.
holy copeola
Cope, literally everyone that wanted got access. I have like 7 keys, and I didn't even request to play this shit ass game.
the extraction shooter genre
They are just real late to market. This game needed to be released somewhere around 2020 to 2022. Wedged in after Apex but a bit before Warzone and other games burned people out on extraction/survival/battle royal games.
As now we are starting to see more co-op sort of extraction games. Then Marvel Rivals is bringing players back to team hero shooters and it's F2P. I just don't see the market for Marathon now as tastes have changed but it would have been there a few years ago. It will still do ok but people will tire of it's game play loop real fast.
After you take away the QA stuff there's probably only two months at most to make changes and add content. You think their writers are going have time to make and insert a whole narrative in two months? Fuck no. They're doomed.
Looking forward to the bizarre cope here when this maintains a modest and stable playerbase a year out from launch
Looking forward to the bizarre cope when it EoS'd after a year and Bungie is dissolved
Nah, transgenders often think about suicide.
browsing livestreams of this on twitch and its clear this shit is a fucking snoozefest. wont be DOA but flavor of the month slop and drop off like rock
So what happens to Bungie if (when) this flops?
why the hell wouldn't they have done it with Concord
Because they didnt think it would happen and that the game would die because of the word of mouth and everyone making fun of low numbers during beta
Wont make same mistake twice
Be ready for the 200k+ player numbers
Exactly. No content changes coming at all. Just bug fixes, if that. Certification takes time, so some of that four months will be spent literally waiting for the publishers to review the game before approving it. What we see now is what we'll get. Not promising.
It was clear Concord was in bad trouble after that first paid beta where the open beta had less people. Sony had time to get botting ready if all they cared about was inflating the playercount. It wouldn't have been actual bots running around ingame.
Sony is going to turn a blind eye during cert to anything except 'crashes or blows up the PS5,' just like they did with Cyberpunk. No idea about Xbox, but it'll be fucking hilarious if MS tries to fuck Sony over and doesn't let them have any exceptions or extensions.
What would constitute bizarre cope in a scenario where Marathon "maintains a modest and stable playerbase" (the more honest phrasing would be 'stable but modest')? Sony purchased Bungie because of their reputation for GaaS for billions of dollars, the game has been in development hell, Bungie internal crises resemble Acti-Blizzard but without Kotick's infinite money vault to serve as ballast, anything less than Marathon becoming a breakout hit at launch is going to be objectively seen as a failure not just by tortanic chuds on Anon Babble but by Sony execs and basically everyone else.
Sony killed other gaas games for this
How shitty were those other games?
The only other GaaS Sony game that comes to mind is Destiny 2, and depending on who you ask it was always shit and just got shittier with updates with the occasional upswing, or it was initially good, got worse, got better, and is currently at rock-bottom.
Anon, if Bungie wasn't making enough money with Destiny 2 to sustain itself, even after those layoffs, how the fuck do you think a niche game like Marathon is going to perform? They don't need 'modest,' they need something approaching Marvel Rivals' numbers.
That would make sense if they actually made games worth playing to the normalfag market. As of now, it makes more sense to buy a PS5 than a Xbox if you are a normalfag since it does the same shit AND has normalfaggy vidya like the Last of US, Dad of War and all the yearly sports games.
if i like tarkov will i like this?
any testers here that played both?
Do you think Tarkov would be better with less systems complexity (ammo types and their interaction with armor, leg and arm stamina, height over bore, locational damage and meds, food, hydration, headsets, etc) and more significant (possibly more obtrusive) PVE? If so, you'll probably like Marathon.
Anyone else just look at the game and get disgust? It's slow, ugly, and kind of boring to watch.
honestly some of those things are annoying/could go
arm stamina is fucking painful when trying to snipe standing up
why does my pmc have the stamina of a geriatric?
looks fun ignore ragebaiters
How shitty were those other games?
The Last of Us Factions would have been incredible tbqh and was explicitly killed by Bungie. naughty dog never missed with their multiplayer stuff, it must have been in the oven since at least 2020, killed in dec 2023, 3 years of work thrown out.
They had over 10+ in development, including a twisted metal, a last of us 2, a spider man one, and a god of war one.
lmao as if. the reddit and discord are full of beggers hoping for keys. I can't even generate keys for friends who want one. I was lucky to get in because I jumped through the hoops on day one, you didn't get shit
Closed Alpha
Had to register for it
Ho-hum. Call me when the player numbers are for an OPEN beta.
Rods in his face
But he can't turn off the Facecam.
Why are white men like this?
ive been thinking about the artstyle a bit and i realized somethings. This style, it works for a short film and a movie, something with the aesthetic of devtexture boxes is unique and interesting in the context of movies. It doesnt work in the context of being an artstyle for a videogame at all, it looks cheap and Early Access in a way that doesn't look deliberate and doesn't inspire confidence.
i'm shocked sony didn't cancel this after concord
I guess they were too far in
Worse:
Hola->MMOFPS with shitty loot drops->This that doesn't even lead into Halo like old Marathon did.
They thought they were buying Halo. They weren't. They were buying post-Halo Bungie, and P-H Bungle was burnt out.
If I can install Linux on it, I'd unironically buy an X-box.
If it's just a locked down Windows 11 machine: No thanks. I get enough of that shitshow UI in my day-job, I don't need that shit in my game time.
The setting and characters look like horse-shit. A thing Halo and Destiny were good at, despite the highs and lows. What the fuck is this. They look like Valorant rejects.
AFAIK consoles have, in terms of raw hardware, been basically just PCs running on some flavour of proprietary software for a while now
PS4 generation: Yes. PS3 was PPC so a PC but on a non-x86/64 shit.
X-box was the only "console PC" of that generation and that was a damn Pentium 3.
Exactly. Bungie used to nail atmosphere and world-building even when the gameplay stumbled a bit. This looks like some random art intern was told "make it look colorful and trendy," and they just smashed Valorant and Apex together without understanding why either of those games work visually. No identity, no soul.
That would require Bungle to change it from a non-Extraction shooter, which would be the THIRD GODDAMN REBOOT FOR MARATHON.
It's not happening, Sony is forcing them to shit or get off the pot/get fired.
It's dead like Concord: Nobody normal plays an Extraction Shooter.
the game is boring as sin that's the biggest issue. I don't give a fuck when I die, and I don't give a fuck about killing players because all the gear fucking sucks and doesn't matter. The only shit that does matter are the hitscan 1 tap sniper headshots which is also pants on head retarded for an extraction shooter but when they have a around that runs out after 10 seconds and fucking aim assist on their grenade throws I think that's the least of their worries. The game is fucked top to bottom
No one was championing this game
you really think this pussy would ever do meth? lol
He's just complaining about the "gunplay" everyone spergs over with destiny. The whole feel of the guns in destiny other than the aesthetics (look/sound) is the aim assist and bullet magnetism. It makes destiny players feel skilled even though they're 10 feet off from hitting a guys head. So now we have someone that can actually aim (excluding the aimbot/wallhacks) encountering this shit design and calling it out. It's why destiny players try other pvp games without the insane assists and get shit on
it's such a retarded thing to get hung up on. the entire game design is a mess that has no sense or direction but the guy who got famous for clicking on heads is upset that the headclick feel is off.
no wonder the game he worked on shut down after 3 months and even he didn't play it
It's just a maximally ugly game. Worst possible art design in a market dominated by Marvel Rivals.
Designer looked under his kitchen sink at a bunch of detergent and cleaner bottles and thought BY JOVE I'VE GOT IT.
How miserable to think that I live in the age of 'TidePod-core' games.
I absolutely despise the artstyle so it's just an automatic no from me
it was already a likely no for being part of snoy's giant live service slop push
youtube video is from someone who didn't even play the game he's just some nigger who's describing what he saw on other streams
This is the peak of dogshit zoomer brainrot content. Kill yourself now holy fuck.
how is sony so averse to money?
do they not want to make successful games?
after their last half a dozen flopped games youd think they notice tha certain types of games and their presentation do not attract people to purchase said games.
Who holds the record for highest players in a closed alpha and how many players was it?
Simple answer: All of their key decision makers are Californian liberals.
Maybe Guild Wars 2 back in 2012, since they trying to get enough people to crash their server infrastructure and still had people begging for keys to get in because they'd always fill up.
Marathon is quite possibly, the ugliest game i've ever fucking seen in my life
Start extraction point in an area with no cover
an elite pack of bot heroes drop immediately on top of me and another guy
3rd dude is off looting despite having a full inv
End up extracting while downed because the third guy finally shows up and starts looting instead of rezzing me
Stuck watching the two guys that didn't extract or my quest fails
This fucking sucks.
I don't get why they chose to make both reloading and movement speed so slow.
I came in expect "tarkov but apex speed" and instead it's somehow slower than tarkov.
I think the spider-man one had potential but I also agree with the developers after getting their sequel meddled with, getting stuck in the GaaA mines for years and years sounds like a nightmare.
That wolverine game is 100% fucking cooked though
I'll never understand anyone praising it, it looks entirely built out of placeholders, one step above literal greyboxes and stickfigures
"Ridiculously stylish" my hairy ass
ideas guys aint shit until you gotta make a good game you need the lead dev to be the ideas guy and a good dev it can't just be one
having money won't buy you a cool game
How much do you want to bet, that there are organised Discord groups trying to push “Concord 2.0” because they’re extremely upset that Destiny 3 was cancelled?
I like the interior environments and the UESC troopers. Player characters, guns, outdoors, UI, almost everything else looks like hideous shit. But the interiors and NPC enemies work for me.
That’s not necessarily the case. This is most likely a build from several months back to account for console submissions, so the actual game is probably a few months ahead.
There really doesn't need to be some kind of concerted effort to make that happen.
It's a shit game that has plagiarized almost every part of itself poorly.
Character design is sticking to the blackrock funding handbook.
The gameplay is slowed the fuck down without any kind of mechanics added to be playable for people with gorilla IQ and lower.
Not only that, but PC brings in all the streamer tryhards.
Try to find one single video of someone going through the quests and lore. Just one.
Can’t blame the streamers though. Gotta yell and clap when your KD goes up.
this is L I T E R A L L Y Watch Dogs 2.
This makes a lot of sense you when think about the recent “this is an Xbox” marketing.
Marathon, Halo and Destiny are all the same game. Let’s not kid ourselves here, even if they’re all solid games.
guy who has aimbot literally built into the game for him complains about cheaters
bungie is removing mouse AA from PC in the alpha on monday because PC players hate it, even though it's there to keep mkb competitive with the training wheels all console players require
The discourse split on it proves it.
The game looks fine. It’s a slowed down Destiny with a moodier cyberpunk aesthetic.
This is the same as everyone saying Destiny 1 was going to flop because Bungie couldn’t hold their own without Halo.
The bigger problem point is the genre itself, the extraction component. Without a really good story and progression system, it leaves holes in the game design, whereas battle royale wins out because player engagement is forced.
Talking about this game online is insufferable.
It’s not as if Bungie are some niche game studio, nor that the original Marathon games are a beloved classic that every single person knows about.
The conversations around this game seem very inorganic. It’s just an online shooter that’ll probably have a steady 50k players on launch.
So many people like "THIS IS MY FIRST EXTRACTION SHOOTER, IT'S GREAT!"
like nigga you have nothing to compare to, shut up
gameplay of a uni grad project
"we will not be making lots of content for this that'll be $40+tip+pass"
billion dollar budget btw
"just trust us the first update will make it all worth it"
*5 months from release*
is blatantly an art concept forced to be a game
ceo is 300% cashing out after launch as sony is the end of the publisher scam line
same company who couldn't agree on a story for their previous billion dollar game wants to sell you an early access game they promise will have some unbelievably goated 10/10 GOTYAY feature 6 months after launch
I knew this game was gonna be ass when they went from player characters to hero character. This also happened when the original Valorant lead director became Marathon's lead director so it's gonna be fucking awful.
The only thing that this game has done right is the art direction, yeah it's all colorful and shit, but it does look good, hopefully the second art pass makes the in-game visuals look better.
Good luck trying to peel the Tarkov fans away, that game is so unique and has a lot of depth that if you love it despite its awful issues, then you wouldn't bother with any other extraction shooter unless it's as good and unique as Tarkov, which doesn't really exist.
I don't know how the fuck they're gonna flesh out the game in like 4 months, they probably won't.
One last thing is that the low alpha player count doesn't mean shit, Deadlock at most had 2-3K players last may, then a big ass boom to 200K players and now its like 8-10K players daily. I don't think player count in an alpha matters that much, but I will say that judging from the gameplay, you play one raid and you've seen all the content in the game. Like the spht or the phor aren't even AI in the game yet lmao.
Without a really good story and progression system
This is one thing tarkov really fucked up on - Previous patches, traders were extremely strong and provided real progression that made quest milestones feel great, and softened the blow of losses.
Since the auctionhouse was added, retards started complaining that trader item acquisition was too op and now so much acquisition and item value is based on a system that is controlled by botters and RMTers.
The AH ruined linear progression and facilitated a whole economy of cheaters.
People are focusing on the wrong critiques with this alpha, and I knew this would happen because they can only use other games in the genre as comparison.
The main problem though is the concept of the extraction point.
You want to force player engagement and tension to funnel into the final segment of the match. Having points where you can pull out of the match 7 minutes in defeats the purpose UNLESS there’s really good PvE elements and the PvP is more of a side outcome you have to watch out for.
I would feel a more satisfying loop would be to essentially “earn” the loot you acquire by pushing through to the final and only extraction point at the end of the match, rather then just simply scavenging.
It feels like mid game extraction points are to appease players who find extremely rare loot and not quit the game out of frustration.
BRING BACK THE SECURITY CHAD YOU FUCKING COWARDS
they're sure as fuck not turning Myth into a shooter, even if they did still own the copyright
I gave up on Bungie doing actual single-player games like they used to the moment they got into live service stuff. As far as I'm concerned, they would turn Myth into a MOBA game if they really want to milk it.
Sony buys Bungie
puts them in charge of live service
they look at everyone else's multiplayer games (Guerilla, Naughty Dog) and kill them
heh, time to show them what a REAL live service looks like!
it's the worst, most derivative game ever made
4 billion dollars
As an ackshual Marathon fan, I'm not happy about this game being an extraction shooter. I haven't played Tarkov, but I played a lot of Hunt and Dark and Darker. I really think this game is taking all of the wrong lessons from those games. Gear is too strong for timmies to deal with. Forced trios means sweats will run wild and dominate matchmade randoms/solos. Snipers one shot up until purple shields. This game honestly needs to be delayed to fix the balancing. A bad launch will 100% kill this game.
Same
The discourse split on it proves it.
lol even their official youtube reveal has the top comments shitting on it. when the gameplay reveal stream happened, all the twitch chat were shitting on it. the majority is tired of FPS slop battleroyal/extraction slop
They’re tired of it but they all play it non stop.
Twisted Metal
What's Sony's obsession with this game or am I the one who's been living under a rock? It even got a fucking TV show with that one marvel nigga but the game has zero marks on gaming or zeitgeist. One of the characters was in their shitty smash clone even.
Are you at least happy with the matching horror tone from Marathon
(say what you want, but there's no confusing Marathon with other games with that style) and some kind of misguided belief that the extraction shooter genre is ripe for disruption.
It looks like shit and people has to acknowledge what the feel. Looks like shit and plays like any other shit.
Well duh, looks nothing like Marathon. It was just gritty but in what people thought the future would look like, complete with VHS tapes.
look at those dogshit visuals
theres no way anyone is hyped about this slop it looks terrible
That's just a battle royale. Which we have dozens of already.
I'm not even praising Marathon here but it's not an extraction shooter anymore if it's what you described.
>Stuck watching the two guys that didn't extract or my quest fails
man this shit fucking blows
i played war thunder recently
once you blow through your lives you can leave the match with no penalty
when the match ends it'll calculate everything for you
instant queues and i mean literally instant into the match essentially 0 seconds of loading
holy fuck it makes every other multiplayer game look so bad
Like battered house wives, I mean Destiny players?
I do like the lore and tone of the reboot. Tau Ceti feels lonely and that it's hiding something you're not supposed to find, which totally fits the original games. I'm not confident in Bungie's writers though as Destiny 1 also showed promise and it just devolved into dogshit over time. The seasonal model also doesn't help long-form narratives. I guess I'm cautiously optimistic.
aim assist on pc
It's console slop
most zoomer normies need aim assist since they can't aim for shit
how is this different from apex legends
one is a battle royale the other is an extraction shooter
I'm out as soon as these dudes pop up on the map.
Pretty dumb thread for a game that doesn't come out for another 4 months.
Classic Bungie works be like
In that desert vast and bare, two trunks of legs alone... my name is Ozymandias, see my work ye mighty and despair
Sad music
References to occultism and """deep lore"""" everywhere
The actual game is the most dogshit weightless shooter ever crafted
Gay robot quips in a cinematic
The lore isnt even present
retard or bait?
99% of games that have alpha releases are basically identical when fully released
Wonder how they'll look.
extraction shooter is just a battle royale with carried over loot
They thought they were buying Halo
A monkey couldve told you they werent buying halo, how the fuck are you a top level exec with billion dollar deals to make and you are blind to what a pack of teenagers could tell you.
Ritual sudoku for sony leadership
Yep, Alpha is the new beta and beta is the new release build. Unless they want to delay the game again. This will be pretty close to how it feels on release.
I was always under the impression that the Pfhor blew apart the planet, but this game paints it like the planet's population was spirited away or something.
Aren't the Pfhor just slavers?
Make a game shilled for it's gameplay
Next game plays like slower Apex
Really smart marketing there Bungie
This looks so bad. It’s DoA if they actually charge for this. If they make it f2p a couple tastelets like this might stick around. Thankfully, snoy are retarded so they’ll send it out to die.
game looks nothing like the trailers.
Nah you gotta give Bungie credit on their lore. Halo's forerunner stuff was still getting figured out decades later.
I would back trump 100% if he deported shroud.
that Vice article reads like it was AI generated goddamn
the absolute state of journalism
Classic Bungie
That means up to Oni.
(((Shroud)))
This shit is the original attack on the marathon and the colony, so then what are the areas you're exploring in pristine condition?
Recently played war thunder
Leave its grasp while you still have a chance.
Vaatividya tier of shit
Not in the games
Not canon
Don't care
Honestly it's an extreme case of wondering what the fuck the goal is here, and why extraction shooters.
expels your Destiny players that were PvE/co-op focused
expels any campaign players of prior Bungie games that were in it for story experiences and fights
trying to be streamlined and casual-friendly but it's an incredibly sweat-based sub-genre that encourages the absolute worst scumfuckery, worse than Battle Royales
regularly lose items and progression to the point that every season does full resets of inventory and progress, which makes sense to those used to extraction shooters but is alienating to those not used to these games
Who is the audience of this reboot supposed to be? For a price point of $40 while being promised already they'll have paid cosmetics and battle passes?
Not in the games
Not canon
What are you talking about it's from the terminals in-game.
from the terminals in-game.
this literally only describes destiny
I swear I'm the only dude that likes this game.
What do you like about it?
If you're used to console shooters fundamentally it's alright, but if this game's crossplay then PC players are gonna be pissed, and compared to its already very limited competition this game has so much work to finish up it's ridiculous. Bungie is hoping way too hard for post-release "bungie magic" on this one to salvage it.
I just feel like it matches the atmosphere of certain parts of the original youtu.be
From an online shooter perspective, the game is also a bit slower, which is the worst parts of Apex, Fortnite and Warzone.
Triple A "Alphas" are not like alphas from 10-15 years ago, they are feature and art complete at this stage. The only thing missing is the reward track which has very little to do with the gameplay.
We jumped the shark years ago when a artistic and feature fleshed preview was called "pre-alpha gameplay"
These words mean fucking nothing.
Not the dude you're replying to but I'm a Bungie fan who's been actively playing their games for god knows how many hours each since CE launched in 2001.
It's fine. It feels good. Guns shoot good. Everyone and everything looks like a sneaker. Art style reminds me a lot of Designers Republic stuff from the 90s like Wipeout mixed in with a modern 'Graphic Realism' streak.
It is, unfortunately, the exact genre of game that's a turn-off to basically everyone except crazy fucks like me. I look at it from gameplay as a list of things that similar games like Tarkov don't do. Marathon's not gonna have your guns jam and it doesn't have leaning and it doesn't have the sweaty russian gulag deathpits that Tarkov does.
I think it needs some fixes. I want to go in a run with multiple bounties, for starters.
I was always under the impression that the Pfhor blew apart the planet, but this game paints it like the planet's population was spirited away or something
The ending of Marathon 1 states that the Pfhor were defeated on Tau Ceti easily due to battleroids that were dormant on the planet. Marathon 2 'retcons' this by saying that everyone on Tau Ceti died with the implication being that Durandal was just lying about Tau Ceti being saved. It's unclear really what happened to the planet. Anyone who has played Marathon knows that most cosmic magic bullshit can be attributed to a Lovecraftian entity that shall not be named who can affect alternate timelines.
My assumption is generally that the initial Pfhor force against Tau Ceti was wiped out, but 17 years between games and no UESC reinforcements led to losing the planet eventually since Pfhor had more to throw at them.
I thought the cinematic trailer depiction was supposed to be a new incursion on Tau Ceti, so if it really is the original invasion, then I guess we're in some weird fuckery more in line of what you're saying.
How do the revives feel? I know in Tarkov if I want to go in solo and do some quest objectives, even if I run into a team I know if I drop one they'll stay dead.
Sounds like trying to solo and fight a team is a horrible idea in Marathon because they'll just pick each other up if you give them any breathing room at all.
le ebin reference. tbpqh, this game feels made for Haloboomers like me and who actually played the original marathon and are here for muh lore, but don't have the motor skills for an actual extraction shooter in our old age. this game feels a little more casual and approachable for the genre. the movement feels like it's threading the needle of giving you speed bursts and flanking ability, without being a total warzone 14yo twitchfest. they even make bullet magnetism, thought it sounds like they're removing that by popular request monday, at which point I will cease to be good at the game.
Okay so the lore is just whatever fits then
initial Pfhor force against Tau Ceti was wiped out, but 17 years between games and no UESC reinforcements led to losing the planet
Post made me realise the cinema trailer was detailing with two time periods on the planet.
then I guess we're in some weird fuckery more in line of what you're saying.
I'm going with weird fuckery based off the cinematic trailer where people randomly die for no reason + there is no evidence of an alien invasion on Tau Ceti.
Unironically yes. Marathon is actually a decent game to reboot due to the fact that alternate timelines and eldritch beings affecting space and time are already preestablished in the lore.
they're quite long and leave you vulnerable unless you build specifically for shortening them, which generally comes at the cost of more useful stat pads. I cut like ten seconds off the front of this webm of him holding rez while in hiding. I like to use the locus shield to cover my teammate while rezzing the third guy
I saw a yt breakdown, he pointed out at least three different times that things were happening iirc
From what I was hearing at the initial media blitz, this game is 70 years after the original Marathon game?
Honestly this game looks way worse than Concord. Like everything about it is trash outside the 2 CGI trailers
who the hell is this game for
If you're used to console shooters fundamentally it's alright
I feel like maybe you're getting at something here.
For myself and a lot the boomers here, the FPS for us still rooted in Combat Evolved, 1993 and 2016 Doom, and maybe even Black Ops 1's zombies.
In a way, Marathon ticks those boomer boxes. It's got the lore autism, the gunplay of Halo (which is unchanged all the way through to Destiny 2).
Part of me wants to handwave the game because of the online element, but then I think back and even Marathon and Halo were extremely multiplayer focused. Zoomers forget that Halo 3 on release was essentially Fortnite.
Marathon 1 takes place in the year 2794. Marathon 2 and Infinity take place in the year 2811. NuMarathon takes place in the year 2893.
this game is 70 years after the original Marathon game?
I thought it was a play on the original Marathon's distress signal taking '70 years' to reach the closest human colony.
I don't know what that means lorewise, meaning the colony it reached now have Faster Than Light travel or what the state of Earth is at that moment (is earth some Ghost in the Shell colony now?)
Casual players who won't ever touch any other extraction military-sim shooters.
Bungie removes the NDA on alpha as they panicked nobody cared about the reveal
makes things only worse as the game looks like shit on stream
Holy kek. 200 IQ dev studio right here.
People with exactly two friends.
who actually played the original marathon and are here for muh lore, but don't have the motor skills for an actual extraction shooter
Maybe in a more streamer oriented landscape, that's the pain point for a lot of opinions.
For me I see the trailers like youtube.com
I think they thought they could get ahead of the negative reaction by letting influencers sell their game for them only to get clowned on by everyone including their own subreddit.
I saw a yt breakdown, he pointed out at least three different times that things were happening iirc
I can't remember the last time I've sat down and watched lore videos for an upcoming game. Probably Elden Ring, when people were speculating on what the giants and astral stuff could be in-game.
They're so deluded. Destiny Skinner box monkeys carried this shit studio for too long.
ermmm ackshually it's 92 years but yeah if NuMarathon does take place in 2893 then that should mean Earth received the distress call. However, Leela also did explicitly mention the Pfhor but it seems like humanity doesn't know about them?
whatever fits then
yeah brother, don't let the people who act like Marathon ever had an actual story and plot lie to you, those games were very willing to just say fuck it and do whatever even if it contradicted shit before because they could always pull a 'haha durandal lied' card and Infinite straight up says Cthulhu shit exists and there's like 784 timelines.
and yet all the games made to pander to you keep bombing just like marathon will
another example of rez times. idk what these cunts were up to, not sure if you can actually hear enemy rezz sounds or what, but they timed it perfectly. unlucky for them I did too.
in game you're working for corpos that are antagoniztic to the UESC; it's supposed to be strictly off limits hence why they shoot you on sight for being there. seems plausible the government has been extremely tight lipped about what happened at the colony and is doing their own prelims there before telling the public anything.
The problem with this sort of alpha is that you really only want people with good intent playtesting the game.
JimmyYoutubes are just going to all say the same things:
Indoor look great, outdoor bad
gunplay great (nobody can ever actually articulate what this means, they're talking about animation & audio kinetics)
Thing from [Extraction Shooter] not here
That's literally 95% of the impressions. What did we learn? Oh Jimmy wants voice chat.
Leela also did explicitly mention the Pfhor but it seems like humanity doesn't know about them
These are the lore points that make the story concepts really interesting. Without Bungie's writers just waiving or retconning things, the conspiracy angle of the corporations and governments tied into events like this really makes me wonder how you expand on this stuff in seasonal stories.
Oh Jimmy wants voice chat.
Yes? Why are these bitch fag devs so afraid of people communicating?
this game died for two reasons; it was ugly, and they did no marketing. nobody I talked to had heard of it, only the industry followers here had. the game had a following made up 100% of haters.
Can't have anyone being toxic now, especially in their social experience game! Think of how many memories you'll make when you can't communicate.
should've just listened to the streamers they invited last year instead of clowning themselves even more
Wouldn't be surprised if the people who could develop it got caught in their wave of layoffs last year while the CEO was using Sony money to buy cars.
What other extraction shooters are there besides The Division?
looking forward to fairgames and marathon bombing as well. when will sony catch a break?
10 seconds
that is way too quick
It's organic, the Bungie dick sucking comes from the rabid Destiny fanbase that Bungie grew thanks to endlessly abusing them by removing paid content and milking them for every penny they have. I have never seen a more stockholmed fanbase than Bungie fans. All of the reasonable people left long ago so the only ones left are insane schizos who will foam at the mouth if you critique Bungie in the slightest way. Shit is crazy.
you can revive the corpse box
Wait it's not just if they're in a downed state, you can revive people who are 100% dead?
Not having the tone of the game ruined to listen to some Samoan guy with the vaccum cleaner and kid crying on in the background talk to me in a mining facility.
Would have played it if it was single player.
get fucked you fucking gay ass faggot fucking rat as faggot camping there fucking meet me somewhere you little bitch. Fucking hate this game so much dude. yeah that's right emote. emote you little fucking bitch. fucking pussy.
yep. pretty sure apex has this too. in fact I'm not sure it even has the in between crawl around stage. I haven't played since it was new.
rez from dead you have no health or shields at all, I think if you're just downed you pop up at full health. health and shields technically regen, but it takes a long time for it to kick in, and even when it does it takes forever to fill up. probably like a full minute or two
I think small single player chapters in this game would go well. 30 minute single player seasonal missions. Think of like a Halo 2 chapter in length and complexity.
They have to be doing something like this anyway right? What with Destiny's raid design.
Yes, if one player lives an entire squad can be rezzed back up if they have the opportunity.
go woke go broke
Supposedly one of the maps will have some raid-like mechanics, and I'm presuming that's the confirmed map aboard the UESC Marathon itself. But given they straight up have made decisions like "no solos mode with no teams because we want players to fight each other, not stealth around and avoid fights", it's going to be like Hunt Showdown or Fortnite bosses where people either camp the mechanics or wait until someone else clears shit and then wipes them out for all the loot.
I said it before the big Anon Babble shutdown, but frankly this game would've sold gangbusters if it was more like GTFO or some shit, a co-op 4 player experience where a team of mercs or UESC explore derelict ruins and the Marathon's halls trying not to die to the Pfhor or scavenger foes wandering about.
I hope so. I'm interested in the aesthetic, atmosphere and "lore" established in the cinematic, but unfortunately it's all hung on a FOTM streamer bait genre skeleton
should have just made a proper mararthon game
actually they did say they took a lot of inspiration from advertising
what's woke here
No proximity chat
MARATHON ALPHA IS A DISASTER
Say not so.
one of the factions that hires you, in their initial contact says "you've likely seen our name and logo quite a bit down there."
the tide pod aesthetic for the colony is deliberate; the whole place is built on corporate sponsorships
I'd worry more about transhumanism occult more than what is normally considered "woke" here.
got me there, that is gay and retarded and I told them as much in my feedback
the original Valorant lead director became Marathon's lead director
explains a lot actually
What's the point of even using the Marathon IP here? It means nothing for the vast majority of gamers and for those that it does mean something the association with this game is a negative draw factor.
i have no idea why they didn't just make a single player marathon game?
all they had to do is make it not-halo (when it was good), and they'd make bank.
a co-op 4 player experience where a team of mercs or UESC explore derelict ruins and the Marathon's halls
Yeah, I think that's what this should be too, but there's a business realism to it all where Bungie are under the gun from execs and there's a want to play off of streamer culture for advertising.
multiplayer, marketable characters, sellable runner skins. why do you think one of them is an emo punk girl with head "hair" spikes and the other is voiced by Adam Jensen as the invisible spook
they want this to sell based off of PvP and cosmetic appeal, they literally could not be trusted with a solo game by Sony right now since Destiny 2's campaigns could be solid and then flipturned into absolute fucking retardation
I'm presuming that's the confirmed map aboard the UESC Marathon
There was some map that leaked showing a tighter, ship-like map in the game. Maybe it was fake, it was up on Reddit at one point.
should have just made a proper mararthon game
They did, it was Halo 1. They couldn't make Halo 1 again, that's why we have this aesthetic now.
Established interesting lore base. Don't have to try to cultivate an interesting setting because it's already there, and you can just lay vague mysteries on top of it for people to endlessly speculate about even if the writers don't actually think of any defined answers.
Because even if the Marathon IP doesn't ring a bell for most of the people you still have a small fan base following it and by knowing the lazy fucks at bungie, they were too scared to make a new IP out of this shit of a game. Because it's easier to use old IP's than establishing new ones.
Bros please do not tell them to add proximity chat to the game I swear. Do you guys even play online games?
It's crazy how he Cheated in CS to get a name for himself, admitted to doing it, then cheated in PUBG blatantly for the exact same motive before people knew all the common tells of cheating, it worked, and even today he's worshiped by redditors despite being below average compared to the cs pro scene of the last 10 years.
Almost all of his VODs from the PUBG days that got him twitch success are nuked.
all they had to do is make it not-halo
Halo revolutionized the genre when it came out with the health regen, vehicles and weapon limit.
You can't make Halo again.
It's a fucking extraction shooter. The players are already inherently toxic. But at the same time, it's just kind of one of the things these sorts of games need because otherwise everything is so clinically dull and other enemy teams may as well be smart bots with guns to you.
The 3 dozen or so original Marathon fans must be devastated that this is what Marathon will be remembered as now.
When I heard Bungie was going to reboot Marathon, I figured that was going to be their way of making Halo again (as Halo was basically the spiritual successor) but instead they did whatever the hell this crap is.
Don't be a coward
highly suspected aimbotter S*roud seething about a built in aimbot that fucks his aimbot up
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
Anon Babble is STILL seething over this game
Yeah im thinking this is gonna be a hit
Ok Bungie, now fuck off and kill yourself
>Anon Babble is STILL seething over this game
Things that aren't happening.
No it won't. Concord got Bazz, there's some staying power. This one is worse than Concord because it's just woke but the boring kind so it's going to be forgotten.
It's a fucking extraction shooter. The players are already inherently toxic.
actually moreso for the lack of chat. almost all the contracts can be completed without even competing with other runners. but you can't say "hey friendly" or "I'm a solo I just need to activate the TAD, pls let me pass" etc, so it's kill on sight.
One mechanics that can be removed in one hour changing one line of code is now a super mega game ruining disaster
TORtanicucks getting desperate
Sorry anon, we just don't care
You have to appeal to the normies
The worst thing your game can have is apathy
lifting the nda was done to grift sony harder as the obviously poor reception will force the game to be delayed and/or receive more investment
also bungie are in no position to act like jackasses so building a relationship with players is obligatory today it was stated they're already scrapping the egregious aim assist
hearing some 20 year old saying “I’m friendly” in a match
Would actually uninstall said game. The gayest thing I’ve heard.
for me its apathy
it doesnt engage my brain at all.
its like im looking at nothing at all.
Part apathy for the totally unoriginal game design
Part anger for the total worthless use of an IP I liked somewhat
Part disappointment at the sheer amount of money sony has put into slop instead of games or even ports of games people would actually play
yep. pretty sure apex has this too.
apex has buy back stations no?
so you can collect your team mates tag and then take it to a station where you can buy them back into the game and they spawn back in with nothing.
its actually balanced and actually has a cost to it.
because there are only a few of those stations and are usually hotspots so getting them back isnt just free.
(i havent played in like 5 years so i have no idea if any of this is true)
Thats because thats a battle royale, coming back is a lot heavier impact there
you know what else is typically a hotspot? the place where your teammate just got killed.
good news, you can still shoot the guy
Why wouldn’t I just shoot everyone
Bungie will never go back to making traditional single player games again. Bungie, Blizzard; out of all the studios that embrace GAAS, only Valve remains and even they're only doing it once in a blue fucking moon (and in VR).
if it was single player
Yeah the game world looks interesting to me. Make it a 4 player co-op sort of game and add in some creatures to mix it up. Keep the looting, extraction and over all vibe and I'd play it.
Sort of a Ghost Recon but set in Marathon world vibe... There is a reason we are seeing more co-op PvE games. PvEvP just doesn't work as a genre.
people aren't even seething since there's nothing to really be mad at. It's more disappointment and trying to articulate why it's uninteresting.
But then everyone will say, "Why would I play this over Destiny"
I could literally do this shit in Apex or Warzone right now for free
Yeah becuz u poor as fuck homie. you canonly play free shit while i'm up here paying top dollar for thereal thing
Zoomers forget that Halo 3 on release was essentially Fortnite.
I'd say more like gmod-lite due to the kinds of things people could do with forge and file share. That shit blew up fast as fuck, I can't believe how many people on this board pretend like they didn't fill up their friends list by playing matchmaking then later joining or hosting big custom game lobbies on forge maps, shooting the shit for hours.
Every time I see someone say the MP for halo didn't matter I wonder if they ever had xbox live or even friends back then.
Because Destiny 2 is literally winding down and "expansions" won't really be the full sized expansions anymore, all for full steam ahead on Marathon development. So people would basically be like Diablo 2/3 players sticking to their older game for all their loot and sunk cost preferring the old thing over what the studio released after.
Tarkov literally only got big with normalfags because the pandemic hit and it was the streamerfag choice of game during early 2020.
If the coof hadn't have happened it'd still be mentioned in the same breath as stuff like SCUM
They're seriously fucking up if this is going to be extraction only. At least delta force has the battlefield-like mode on the side. Some halo boomers might play this and have fun but they're going to be missing out on a lot more players if there aren't any other modes.
They spent a decade avoiding making crucible fun or experimenting in destiny, they need to go back to whatever roots they still have left.
You sure you want bungie to make a single player game with a story and dialogue?
Concord was at least comically bad. This is just boringly bad, which means literally nobody is even going to notice when it releases.
No way Sony, as retarded as they are, will throw even more money at this sinking ship. More likely they will just turn it into F2P release before launch and monetize it harder. If it flops despite that, Bungie is shut down.
For Sony, this disaster is actually worse than Concord. Sony didn't blow 4 billion dollars on Concord. If this flops, it will mark one of the worst studio acquisitions, or any acquisition ever for that matter, in history.
Because modern MP games aren't actually about fun, they're about "engagement". Which means you will be playing with fake bot lobbies 95% of the time, and voice chat enables you to instantly figure out that everyone around you is a spoofed player name bot. No VC means it's harder to work out.
Why are safe space moronic devs making online games with zero means of communication? Might aswell make a comfy offline MMO-like instead with actual NPCs.
almost feels like we live in a simulation because they keep pushing out DEI tranny slop that bombs but for some reason they don't stop doing it
I like the aesthetics of this game but I dont know about the actual gameplay. The first thing is it looks awful to play with randoms, I don't have 2 friends that will play whenever I want to.
The movement looks like Apex which is great, but the way stamina works, it's very limited.
Fights against robots just looks like Destiny, boring.
I keep watching alpha footage because I want to like it, but have a lot of doubts. Also from what I've seen so far I would not pay more than £20 for this.
"expansions"
Amazes me that people would pay actual money to shoot the same health bars over and over, but their guns have higher numbers this time.
I actually appreciate the bold transhumanist trannycore art style, it could do with some grit, be a little less "clean", but otherwise I dont think that is the problem people are making it out to be, the problem to me is that the game looks dull as fuck
You have to remember that all of this shit has been in development for YEARS. They literally cannot course correct any of these projects, it'll be another 4 years before these companies start showing anything people want to play. Games coming out this year were made at the height of St Floyd.
Yeah it fucking sucks how it all it takes is one flopped Japanese game to forever shut down a studio but somehow these AAA western games can somehow release on a monthly basis, flop extremely hard and still amplify in numbers.
no one talks
still can't figure it out
what a plan mark
are the rest of bungie employees still talk shit about destiny 2 internally like before or is it banned now?
This is what you'll get btw with enemy voice chat on
Welcome to looter games. Kill shit, get loot, optimize loot, rinse and repeat when better loot comes out. Live service as a means to an end only ended up stretching out how much the most dedicated players will do it before maintenance mode / EoS. Destiny did improve, fuck up and then improve again as it went along, there's stories and shit to care about overall, but the live service fucked that too by pretty much having to be there when that content came out, or else its off to youtube for you.
No bloody fuckin wonder they're moving onto trying to monetize a new thing, Destiny is virtually impenetrable now without those dedicated players being friends that help you into it and a lot of money up front.
Most western AAA studios are backed up by kikes, so no wonder they don't die
I love first person shooters but the entire genre is rapidly slipping.
I'm never ever going to play another game with aim assist again. Call of Duty, Apex, Halo, all brutally fucked straight into the dirt by half the player base, now 90% of the player base enjoying literal aim bots as a reward for acting like a drooling retard.
Skill expression and tactile and rewarding control schemes are fucking dead thanks to console niggers. We haven't even had a single decent single player FPS since the mid 2000s because everything caters to the lowest common denominator.
I'm enjoying watching this, but only when you have the atmosphere of the game as backing.
As soon as people are talking heavily over it like it's Tarkov or something, the soul drains out.
Do any of these people jumping on this particular bandwagon not realise that Escape from tarkov is the best in the genre and even playing that is a fucking miserable experience?
The conversations around this game seem very inorganic
Stop being a fucking schizo. If people don't like it you don't have to try and do all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify why that is the case.
Yeah I'm sure people who have no interest in a looter shooter are very adamant about going online and repeating the same things over and over.
barely any games do gun magazines correctly, instead it's just bullet count
Marathon and Halo originally did this
The bar with a concord level disaster is pretty goddamn high, OP, it might definitely flop but we need to see what level of flop it is if it happens before we can call it the next Concord.
almost feels like we live in a simulation because they keep pushing out DEI tranny slop that bombs but for some reason they don't stop doing it
You've got about 4 more years of it before the pipeline runs out of pre-2020 insanity game development.
Sony has invested 4 billion dollars in Bungie. They invested a tenth of that in the shit devs that made Concord. If this flops, it will be far more damaging to Sony than Concord. It will be billions of dollars down the drain.
Well when you put it like that I suppose there is a lot of pressure on it, and a huge margin of failure on top of it.
Still I'm definitely the 'wait and see' type, I can see this failing but I wait until I see the crater before I start making any hard statements.
Sony is probably hoping for a flop so they can take full control over the studio, Bungie has a clause which says they can appoint their own leadership as long as they make annual sales goals, this is also why they only make GaaS shit because they're only going for maximum profit to keep Sony takeover from happening, also yes Sony was retarded enough to agree to this when they bought them kek.
Sony has invested 4 billion dollars in Bungie
How do you look at D2 and come to this figure?
This has been a very expensive lesson that ambitious hardworking capable people are unicorns and the way publishers have acted over the past 2 decades has nearly killed the industry. AAA is at an output standstill.
Shit is so bad we're hoping Bungie can stop being trash as they're one of the only AAA studios who aren't outsourcing everything to make unoptimized UE5 slop
NOOOO HOW DARE PC GET AIM ASSIST
We need a Concordlike tag on Steam for shit like this.
How do we go back to a small group of white/jap guys making games for systems with abysmal spec limitations? That's how we got all the classics.
Yeah, PC players having intentional aim assist sounds like a strange thing to turn into a big complaint. If it was some bug or exploit then yeah fair enough, but when it's an honest to god feature that everyone gets it feels odd to kick up a fuss about. I can only assume that the people complaining are trying to protect their 'epic pro gamer cred' or something.
What's actually like Concord? I'm not seeing it. To me Concord was CSS maps with slow Halo Infinite gameplay, and the characters were DEI wet dreams.
soulless saas game made by corporate suits which is just a mesh of current trends
Consumer apathy. Nobody cared about Concord, and Bungie's attempts to market Marathon have landed about as well.
The actual content of the game doesn't matter, what matters is basic appeal. These huge flops don't have any appeal at all.
closed alpha
Who cares?
It will be a massive success upon release.
can we even call it a genre when there's a grand total of 2 ongoing games that managed to do it worthwhile and everyone else is in dev hell or collapsed on their faces
fucking hell even that starsiege extraction shooter wannabe got refactored into a coop roguelite when they saw the writing on the wall
it's the $3.6 billion purchase he's talking about, and honestly this was while destiny 2 was riding a high from witch queen or whatever- and then the next year they tanked the game with lightfall.
I'm glad we're way beyond the assumptions that games are gonna be successful just because they have a big budget. There's just no space for new online games anymore, everyone is just playing Fortnite and Minecraft and maybe one flavor of the month for a few weeks and then move on.
who the fuck asked for a neon extraction shooter
the only game to do color contrast well is this game.
Marathon started development in 2018 after Forsaken wrapped up
Genuinely no idea how they thought this game was worth money. A "series" with basically no namebrand recognition, in a genre that is already filled with casual clones of Tarkov, that has no longevity and won't wipe. Absolute dumpster fire before it even gets out the door.
you do you xister
it's the ignorant who are apposed to aim assist. Data doesn't lie. KB&M players are always ON AVERAGE worse off. Dare I say it, but have a look at any modern COD game.
I don't mind if they lower the aim values on pc, but removing it would be a mistake, all because console nigs are crying about pc players have the upper edge.
bright purple
neon green
turquoise colors
vomit inducing mixtures of it
who is the target audience for this again? mentally retarded?
A "series" with basically no namebrand recognition
I mean they're just three free games you can play all in one day and you're caught up. This isn't Mario 64 lore here.
This is one of the most polarizing games I've ever seen.
You have the anti-woke crowd on it because of the artstyle.
You've got the shooter normies on it because of the extraction element.
You've got the OG Marathon fans, a Doom clone from 1994.
You've got Bungie and Destiny fans upset about Destiny.
You've got Halo content creators that Bungie is trying to poach.
What a split.
brown creatures are so sad
I kinda don't like that Tau Ceti just has grass and pine trees everywhere. Maybe my expectations were just set high because Lh'owon feels suitably alien even with the graphics limitations.
Polarizing? More like complete indifference, which is way worse than polarizing.
shroud
Confirmed cheater exposed with cheats multiple times
I prefer this to brown and grey slop, it's why I still play Apex despite its problems
more like maratroon
give away your legendary IP to rapists and let it get raped
fire one of the core people in your entire opperation with no justification
release slop and slop 2: copypaste edition
think you can release a new game on repuation alone
ill say it, i was born in 1997, halo 2 and 3 etc was my prime choice of xbox live gaming and compared to COD i was definitely a 'halo fanboy' back in the day:
bungie is dead and died a long time ago
Their subreddit is already in complete denial mode.
Reminds me of the Concord subreddit.
Their subreddit is-
How would you know? Are you a Redditor?
manlet Jew life be like that
Yes.
grey slop
whatever you say ADHD zooming shitter
I mean when they announced it would be an extraction shooter it was pretty clear that the game was being built years ago for this purpose, there was no chance it was even remotely decent, it's a trend chase, but they missed the boat by like 2 years.
I'm 35 and been bored with games for last 10 years cos they are all the same. At least this looks slightly different to other shooters.
It seems like the whole setting of marathon is being wasted in this new game. Why even call it marathon besides the marketing benefits of using an old franchise's name?
How Ironic. Early on I thought that Designers Republic inspired 1990s style futurism game would look interesting. Like Wipeout 2097. But the game looks generic as fuck, and the characters are androgenous leftist slop.
The ARGs are far more interesting than the actual game itself. It's such a pity.
If they translate those ARGs to puzzles and events ingame then we're gold.
How are modern Bungie writers supposed to integrate the political intriguing between megacorps, insurgencies and solar governments into a game about running around an empty map with guns that you go to over and over and over
pre alpha gameplay just means that you shouldn't expect the actual game to look that good
so much this, I don't care what chuds say, I'm still going to have a blast
What we really need is a deep story focused single player game. Like Deus Ex or Morrowind. Not gonna happen. Instead they give us another generic multiplayer fps. Buy lootboxes, goy. Buy season pass, goy. Do you like weapon skins, goy?
Good question.
If you and I were in Bungie's writing team, we'd take from Dark Souls.
The insane secret trek back to the prison, the doll, the painted world. That sort of secret is the blueprint for what to do here.
The reality is it will probably just be terminals spread about with vague ways to access them behind multiple locked doors.
I think seasonal stories would work better here though.
you lost nintentroon
Hidden content drops, tons of lore content hidden on maps. Gradual reveals. Visual storytelling by location design.
i don't know, this game reveal is one of the most corporate soulless thing i have ever seen, also the artstyle is neon zoomer slop, gross.
What we really need is a deep story focused single player game. Like Deus Ex or Morrowind
The seasonal model offers more story and intrigue. Whether its the MMOs, gacha or shooters, that seasonal approach to story telling usually outstrips what an 8 hour campaign could do.
Halo and Destiny don't play even remotely similarly, the fuck are you on about.
Come on man.
How much do you want to bet that someone somewhere you don't care about is doing something retarded because they're retarded?
Sure, I'll go $2, what odds are you giving
It's just a video of some handicapped millennial reviewing some random tweets.
Aww, poor itty bitty developers get their feeling hurt after creating a trash game, who cares. People are tired of the whole extraction type of gameplay, amazed that bungle decided to make it.
i was randomly called poor by a third worlder in marvel rivals last week. thats how u know its over for gaming. its not even a "us vs them" dichotomy for them anymore, its "us vs the poorer us"
I never asked for this business
The only people praising the visuals are bots and shills, right?
This looks like apex lol. And I mean it as a it's not a bad game but it's a middling game.
Has anyone even noticed that these are the other two character missing from the alpha?
this shit looks bad and not in the funny way like Concord, it just looks plain bad
this
he has shit opinions on games
It looks alien and garish. The reality is picrel is want most players (i.e. young men) want to self insert into. That's why so many players ask for "character customization".
Because you take that design concept and then filter it through Indian Studios who then filter it through AI
Donatello on the left.
It looks alien and garish
it's a dude with red eyes and facepaint
is the marketing non-existant? ive never heard of this game before coming here and even then it looks like a beta
And when was the last time a seasonal model actually delivered on that promise?
I'll never understand anyone praising it, it looks entirely built out of placeholders, one step above literal greyboxes and stickfigures
"Ridiculously stylish" my hairy ass
The original trailer was very cool and stylish.
The actual game though looks like badly animated characters, some assets dropped into the standard UE5 grass leve and on top of it a dull cartoon shader. Nothing like the sleek shiny design from the trailer.
What have they been doing the last four years?
TV shows, FFXIV, few of the gacha, even Fortnite. The slower iteration on story lets ideas stir more.
are you aware of bungie's history with a seasonal model and story, anon?
Dont care, the clown discussion around this game is peak comedy.
concord devs coming out of the woodworks to defend it
absolute hilarious
Where do you think all the tourists when back to during the break?
Looks like the hottest game 2020 shat out. Bungie is about half a decade late with this tranny-core trend chasing
What was the cinematic short implying with this scene? That all the shells get fed the same fake past? Or that Void's character ingrained some things from Glitch?
>concord devs coming out of the woodworks to defend it
absolute hilarious
I cant stop thinking of this Norm joke in this context youtu.be
Apex Legends kinda looks more interesting. And probably has better gunplay and sounds.
Yes but I don't think Destiny 1 and 2 have good story. They have a cool setting, and I wouldn't have had faith in Marathon if it wasn't for the ARGs.
even Fortnite
Fortnite became the biggest game in 2019 for a reason.
I wonder if Bungy will recreate the Myth franchise after this?
I'm not reading that article or watching that video but it's funny to see Shroud complaining about OC getting fucked when he notoriously uses PC to cheat
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
I was having a good time shitting on the game with my bros and then they had to come and force me to work on my thesis instead of shitposting! Preposterous!
I don't get what they're talking about with the "mouse magnetism", no one's really made any clips of it.
Is it like aim assist? Some people are saying "bullet magnets"?
snailo combat reclined
b-bros dont laugh im pushing 40 and loved halo as a kid, i need this speed to be able to play!
I can smell safe edge corpo wank from timezones away. How many people huddled in a room did it take to decide on the opacity of the face paint? 5?
Name even 1 example.
The closest would be MMO’s
How many people huddled in a room did it take to decide on the opacity of the face paint? 5?
I like that the characters are all robots, but you can see that they're clearly meant to be blacks, trannies and ugly women. They went out of their way to make them look weird and unattractive.
*had* a good story
see
Here's your tomboy flat badass Asian chick
She's a gay space robot jugalette btw
Uh...thanks?
Is it the same pic as glitch?
I thought it meant they cant remember who they used to be
It's the same picture, but he also mirrors how he took it from her corpse.
When even normies start to call out bullshit those sycophants are forced to change tone.
This game would be a hit if it was PVE but then that would compete directly with Destiny which they mostly gave up on. Imagine if when extracting instead of getting swarmed by NPCs and PVP players a raid boss attacks you at random if you were holding something important that would be cool
I'd argue the opposite. They probably went out of their way to make them attractive to be in line with concept art they were working with from certain cyberpunk anime.
kek
Look at the trailer from a year ago. Those characters look a lot more attractive. Better proportions, better faces, better animations.
Plus we all know how big western studios act nowadays.
Ubisoft
miss me with that shit Miguel
No, mostly apathy with an inkling of incredulity because I thought the artstyle looked nice in the trailer and then in game it's grey-blue sludge.
How can a game that is 4 months away be in "alpha"? Isn't an alpha something you create very early? They really are misusing terms like alpha and beta these days as this is more like a stress test demo. Why do they hate the word demo now?
I have this feeling that the game will change drastically over a two year period because of this.
I get the feeling that people wanting to be streamers won't main Marathon because of its slower pace and toned down extraction elements.
So then you'll be left with all the PvE players who just do raids and whatnot, and the game will split itself into modes, where the PvP one becomes less played over time.
Anyone else just look at the game and get disgust? It's slow, ugly, and kind of boring to watch.
All I see is gender politics and bland gameplay.
I imagine the lads at bungie had pretty much the same reaction kek.
Everyone saying this is fun feels that because this is the absolute start where no one knows what to do or how it plays. This will not be fun a week into it when all the swear tactics are finalized
trailer from a year ago. Those characters look a lot more attractive
I think it's the same aesthetic, where they're again using Japan and cyberpunk as a reference.
I don't see a huge difference.
It is still fucking insane to me how they focused so much on the colored blood staining the sterile environments in the original trailer only for the actual game to have them burst into treats.
Jesus.
4 months away
Didn't they say open beta is in december?
The game doesn't look promising, but I'm still want to try.
You've just looking at the broad picture. I was talking about details. Details that ruin the original vision.
For example the trailer has a lot of shiny surfaces, while the actual gameplay is all dull and cartoony.
nobody. flop incoming.
Sure, what are the odds versus "anons using basic pattern recognition and realizing this is going to flop"?
Yes? Why are these bitch fag devs so afraid of people communicating?
The community features which includes chat is ran by a woman who got bullied playing Counter Strike as a kid and vowed to "fix" voice chat in gaming aka gimp it . I am dead serious. She did the same to Destiny
more extraction shooter slop
doesn't even resemble the original series in any way
I'm fucking tired of this
to be fair they had a lot of maintenance periods. Not defending this dogshit game tho.
The game doesn't look promising
It's extraction. Extraction is extremely niche. Casuals will hate losing all their stuff.
Thing is this is Bungie, owned by (a struggling) Sony. They need a big hit. They can't afford the next big expensive Bungie game to be niche.
It won't be a Concord failure, but it will be a failure.
The game looks fine.
Anon, what the fuck. What looks fine???
Bungie should have copied Activision with an alternating release cycle. 1 year major Destiny content the next Marathon (which would essentially be another Destiny like game with some differences)
What is going on with this, this looks all fucked in a spatial way.
looks like the building is far away, throws the grenade extremely far
slowly waddles forward
suddenly is right infront of the place where his grenade hit
What is going on there???
They need effects to make it addicting like casinos. And corpses need to turn into lootbags for gameplay
No that is the details. Picrel is the literal broader picture.
I can't see anyone saying "Ah they ruined the initial vision of the 2023 trailer" in good faith looking at this and the gameplay.
It looks like the shit you'd give a 10 year old because you don't want them playing Warzone. Blue goo blood and nerf guns everywhere
good point. And it's not a graphical limitation also. Not hard to create a shader that dynamically creates pools of android blood that naturally dilutes in the water.
1 year major Destiny content the next Marathon
You don't want that man, trust me. Go play another two online games that are handled by the same company and see how bad the fan comparisons get online out of wanting new mechanics and features.
i thought anti soul gas was a meme until i saw this game
Not hard to create a shader that dynamically creates pools of android blood that naturally dilutes in the water
Are you serious?
anon I can do it, and im not even a material artist.
Both extraction and battle royale is risky. First one is niche, second one is oversaturated. Ditto for hero shooter. Nothing will change until a new fresh genre will be invented and conquer the wide audience. Aesthetics and world building were Marathons biggest gimmicks to feel different and Bungie blew it.
It fucking deserves it. It has NOTHING to do with the originals.
Why is everything so goddamn blocky? It's actually hurting my eyes seeing everything be so purposefully geometrically shaped.
The two worst games to do are mobas and hero shooters. Totally oversaturated genres and on top of that notoriously hard to monetize.
The lighting in the inside areas looks amazing.
Fully dynamic, layered fluid simulation in water? Come on now.
I'm a material artist, I can't even do it. The best you could do is lerping between two textures, but then you'd have to segment the water up somehow, which would have its own crazy shader/material.
Name one game that does this.
AMAZING
Anon, doing basic things right is not amazing. Would you say that gunplay feels amazing as well? Almost every FPS game does it right. Those that were made by a competent team.
It works for COD. The actual real issue is Bungie has taught its base to always expect drip fed content instead of just enjoying what you have for a year. I used to play Destiny, no matter what coping Bungie fags say, the drip fed seasons were always lack luster and barren forcing you to reply one seasonal event over and over for 2-3 months. Fuck that I cam just go play other games until you are ready with the next major content drop but not Bungie faggots. They are addicted to the drip feed
Almost every FPS game does it right
Not really. Apex, Destiny 2, F.E.A.R. That's about it.
Would you say that gunplay feels amazing as well?
Don't know what Bungie did to deserve that title. If Bungie has amazing gunplay, so does every other shooter on the market. I was watching some gameplay too and the guns sound fucking awful, like goddamned peashooters. One sniper rifle even sounded like a stapler. Awful just awful.
Don't know what Bungie did to deserve that title.
A generous amount of aim assist.
Destiny/Marathon dies
Sony takes control of Bungie
Tells Naught Dog to start work on their multiplayer game again
Bungie demoted to making skins for that game
This is the happy ending
You can't get gunplay from watching videos, it's a kinetic thing that matches up with your own eye movements, controller input and animation expectancy.
If you watch an Apex Legends clip right now, everyone in this thread will say:
This feels to floaty and not punchy enough
even though playing the game is a different story.
watch this flop
500+ replies
Uh huh.
you waited too long to bait post the thread is about to die
woah now. I never said it would be that complicated? Not hard to create a pool of blood at the body location. Now just fade it out over time.
and you want a example? Sure. Here ya go:
youtu.be
there. Blood that emits from the body and then naturally diffuses in the water. Now just change the colour and turn up the intensity. voila, you have a blood/water shader.
Bro, do you know how difficult that is to pull off?
There is no game that does this in real time.
The game's budget was 750 million dollars
Sony wanted it to become a successor to Concord (which they expected to be a massive success)
fuck me, are you the same anon? I just showed you an example of it being done. I'm not saying pixel by pixel its going to be the same.
heres some random guy on youtube who did the EXACT same thing: youtu.be
why you acting that it's something that is impossible for one person?
Hopefully they fucking shutter
I'm completely apathetic to this game. Bungie lost its spark over a decade ago
New thread?
Look at this grey slop
youtube.com
Why everything has so low dynamic range nowadays?
Of course it's inorganic. None of the people praising this shit played the old Marathons. Marathon is ten years older than the average player of this dogshit
Two down, one more to go.
Is this shit even in the actual gameplay? Blood and gore effects look very basic and cheap in the alpha videos.
I don't see why any Halo boomers would play this. The singular multiplayer game mode is lacking and there's no single player.
whats this shit now?