Shitty guns that suck ass thread

shitty guns that suck ass thread

The pump action shotty is your bread and butter in Max Payne THOUGH...

yeah it's my bread and butter if i want to gently push the guy in front of me

b-but it has bigger range than most video game shotguns

yeah it's my bread and butter if i want to gently push the guy at range

abundant ammo

good damage and accuracy

synergizes perfectly with the roll that you need to abuse because diving is a noob trap against most enemies

good damage

maybe in the first level, shit's a bb gun afterwards.

trannies dilate with this piece of shit and i'm certain its the most overrated weapon of all time.

oh hey, it's the anti-shotgun schizo.
do you think he cohabits with the anti-mace schizo?

Every gun in Tarkov if you don’t have gay nigger ammo

It oneshots if you aim at upper body

Flamethrowers

The Bull from planetside. I've never liked this gun, no real reason to use it when compared to any other gun in it's category.

Sorry but lead is superior even to that.

what game

All weapons with burstfire can suck my entire ass.

7.62 high calibre. but don't play vanilla, play either Hard Life +GEG or Mercpocalypse, vanilla will filter the fuck out of you for all the wrong reasons

its objectively great

This gun is fucking awful in every game but the DODS version is my least favorite gun in any game

I miss Day of Defeat.

Any and all plasma guns are always the lamest weapons.
Laser guns are almost as bad but at least they make cool noises sometimes.

That's the literal opposite of what's true though, Hard Life is poorly translated in English, starts way harder and is less straightforward about what you're supposed to do. Blue Sun Mod + Mercpocalypse in the community patches though I agree.

I don't know how anyone can play Doom 2 and not see this weapon as the absolute gamechanger. Now instead of accidentally gibbing yourself with a rocket, you can take down mid-tier enemies with ease. And if you actually count the pellets and damage per, it has better ammo economy than the basic shotgun

skill issue. if you can land every pellet the enemy will die in one shot. the spread remains tight even at range. the game is built around slow-motion aiming. you have no excuse.

I never had any problems whatsoever with Hard Life's translation, don't be born a brainlet in your next life nigga

CS game B11 for CT and it's always regarded as absolute fucking shit. But IRL the USP is fucking reliable and it shoots fucking powerful .45 ACP bullets.

overrated perhaps, but definitely not shitty by any metric.

USP is great in CSGO and CS2, especially compared to the P2000

I'm starting to wonder how many of these weapons are genuinely bad and how many are just neanderthals going

PUT CROSSHAIR ON BAD GUY, HE NO DIE???

most plasma weapons in games are fine. Fallout, Doom, Deus Ex's is only bad because of a scripting oversight.
Most players just have issues with plasma because they're projectiles

rock a

grug throw from three trees away

mammoth die

grug throw from lake away

mammoth die

rock b

grug throw from three trees away

grug miss

grug throw from one tree away

mammoth not die

mammoth stomp on grug

grug think rock b shit

it's the only gun

lol

This thread could easily be filled with TF2's entire weaponry except for stock weapons and a couple OP upgrades

woah this game looks cool anon thanks for sharing

The BAR is good if you're not a spaz.

Hop on and play it then.

POINT CAPTURED

It sucks cause the irl civilian version is now expensive as fuck as it never sold well.

which bullpup is this? its not the fn2000 is it?

a gun that you can exclusively play through the entire game with

shitty

(you)

duke3d shotgun was pretty good

that is in fact MW2's F2000

Why don't they just make shotgun shells with one big bullet so you can actually hit?

Those are called slugs actually.

It's pretty good in BF1

3's was also really bad, but it's even worse in Reach.

3's was OK but it not doing increased melee damage is criminal

3's was worse than the AR in almost every regard. Slower fire rate, slower bullets, bullet drop. It had barely higher damage per shot when single wielding, but less when dual wielding. But in Reach, they thought it would have been a good idea to keep the exact same properties, except now it can't be dual wielded and it does plasma damage for some reason(resulting in even worse DPS).

it not doing increased melee damage is criminal

Oh, but it does do increased melee damage! The Mauler does, too. It does a whopping 72 points of melee damage... while the regular melee does 70.
Ironically, the Spiker is better in ODST because it keeps the melee damage from regular Halo 3, while the rest of the guns got nerfed by roughly half.

We need a shotgun in a game where the spread is specifically shaped around the silhouette of the most common enemy type when facing point black at them.

Anon Babble here, this is funny as fuck but also holy fuck this is torture

I safely made it through the entire game without touching this garbage but one time.
I know there's supposed to be a better weapon in that slot, but I never found it.

This piece of shit that shoots rotten CUM blobs at enemies that sticks on them and when you shoot at these stuck blobs they grow in size then explode.
You would normally expect to, you know in normal game mechanics, go for bigger the blobs to deal most damage but with this abomination of a gun the best way to deal damage is to spread out your shots and hot-glue the enemy before you.
Since I have mentioned damage, it does no fucking damage. You can't head-shot with it, it can't use certain modifiers with it because it is labeled as "area of effect" that has the amazing range of, at most, 3 meters that basically hits no one unless they are kissing, you can't use its critical stats because it has none of nor can you use the status stats of it to burn/bleed/shock/blast/melt enemies because it has none either!
The numbers are genuinely terrible and you have to go out of your way to get like at least 3 damage multiplying buffs going(which can carry an un-modded weapon already on their own) for it to actually kill enemies at high level content where as with any other gun none or 1 is more than enough.
What's the actual worst point on this weapon is that a new player with full of hopes and dreams can get their hands on this massive disappointment of a weapon to be slapped because literal throwing knives or the generic pistol they got at the start of the game was better than it.

plasma gun in Firewarrior can be charged letting the blob pass through multiple targets at full damage

two shots are enough to cause a Word Bearer to do his best Little Mermaid impression as the plasma cooks him in real time

Probably one of the few decent sounding weapons in that game alongside the melta and the rail gun.

what else should one expect from shooting someone that's wearing level 4 armor with a .22 handgun?

Some Halo weapons just need to be underpowered because getting shot at by 12 brutes wielding spikers wouldn't be fun if they just owned you in a second.

game designs snipers for DPS and not damage

Shittiest gun balance in the world

I get that you need to make it fun to get shot by as well, but when you kill an enemy there's no point in picking that gun up. And in multiplayer, they become set dressing.

DPS and not damage

What does the D stand for again?

So I've been to a floridian Anon Babble campout where we did exactly that and I can promise you that laughter is involved.

Wrong, stupid bitch

Quake's thunderbolt is a good weapon that was never satisfyingly distributed in the game.
Same with Deus Ex HR's plasma and laser guns. Good weapons that are useless because of how they're implemented.

retard shows he sucks at playing HALF LIFE with a shotgun

doubles down by trying to say it's the same as doom 3's shotgun issue

Jesus fuck.

the first question that sprang to my mind was "how many of the attendees were feds" and the second was "were semen brownies served and if so did you eat them"

the doom 3 shotgun had no issue

aim for the legs bro

He's right and you're retarded

Both shotguns are useful in Max Payne but become obsolete when you get the autoshotty

buckshot in video game

has like 40 pellets that go all over the place at 10 yards

slugs in video game

shot disappears entirely after 20 yards

Anyone making a shooter game should have to spend some time actually shooting the guns they're designing.

You're ignoring 3 of the words in your first line.

buckshot in video games

pellet count is inaccurate for 2 3/4 shells

Deus Ex's shotguns had 4 pellets per shell.

As much as I like other shotgun ammo in games, slugs in general are redundant anyway since a lot of games treat it as pump action sniper.

I'll make a game and put a weapon called "sword" in it, but instead of a sword it will be an axe, and instead of swinging it you shoot fire out of a hole in the handle

The Doom 3 shotgun has no fans.

Sounds like fun.

This. The jackhammer is endgame shit.

I like it in a game like STALKER where you're given lots of options, but yeah. In most games you really don't need slug rounds.

it's a game so it should be quirky wacky minecraft movie rick and morty logic

shut up!!!!!

Go play milsims. Anon Babble fags ruin every FPS discussion.

your opinion about it doesn't change its status as the greatest shotgun ever created in videogame history

It's one of the most common ammunition type and the most damage without being a rocket or bfg. It's retardedly powerful but I still think it feels bad to use compared to just the normal shotgun from my own biased opinions.

Nope, doom 3's shotgun is way worse.

To be completely fair, there is a time and a place for tacticool games. But realizm is the absolute first thing you should sacrifice for good game balance. Always.

That's my point. Shotguns in games differ from irl shotguns for the sake of making a game fun to play.

I like the stalker 2 shotties that have a windmill of friendship shaped pattern
t. has never played stalker 2 and won't do so in the foreseeable future

Dangerously based. I like the normal Doom shotgun better

Delete this you sack of shit

It's been a while since I played Planetside 2 but doesn't the Terran Republic (red guys?) Have some of the shittiest carbines ever? I remember them sucking like shit but yey the default medic assault rifle was fucking OP

E-celeb shilled this weapon too hard, Soda Popper mogs it by every margin including fun factor

9mm.webm

The Doom 3 shotgun has way more utility in the game it's in then HL shotgun in its game. Evidence of it being a speedrunners dps machine. If you're running around with the shotgun in HL on Hard trying to out maneuver and dodge hitscanners you'll get owned but that's exactly how you play Doom 3 good. So tell me how it's worse. It's objectively a higher tier weapon.

nobody has posted this yet

speedrunners use it because they know the monster spawns and its effective when you shove it directly in the mouth of one.

Lets not fucking pretend that when playing is casually or for the first time the shotgun ESPECIALLY coming from the old dooms was ass.

I hate HLs shotgun (and all of HL2 for that matter) but your shitposts are disingenuous.

You're disingenuous. All you have are muh feels and skill issues.

Damage per second and damage are entirely different things

It was in an extra level or under the bridge right before last angel.

no u

concession accepted

If you're asking for more damage, you're asking for more DPS. They are absolutely not "entirely" different, one is just a measurement factoring time.

You're no u'ing me right now

It's Payne!

No
DPS factors with damage and firerate
You can have something that does a shitload of damage but has abymassal firerate leading it to have low DPS

He's not using the correct term. He means burst damage, which can have low DPS but does massive damage in a singular burst.

The term is burst, not just damage. You're going to be confusing people if you continue to just say damage as if that is not a completely ambiguous term since you are using it for 2 different damage concepts.

speedrunners use it in their predetermined hyperoptomized routes, therefore it's a good weapon

lmfao

If all you're asking for is long reload times and single shots worth tons of damage, that doesn't mean its DPS is necessarily bad. That 1 shot can still offset the waiting time if it deals a mountain of damage.
Yeah his phrasing was definitely poor.

Your right
I should say burst not damage
Sorry for being retarded haha

oops, friendly fire, meant to lmfao

you're asking for more DPS

doesn't understand burst and break points

A sniper is so supposed to be big dick alpha strike damage but shit tier DPS because it feels like utter shit to be waiting 2 seconds between shots knowing that its somehow the most efficient way to be bringing down big shit.
The issue is that in not MMO trash big dick alpha striking shit is the objective best strategy in all situations so another cunt doesn't get the chance to hit back and thus becomes impossible to balance but in MMO trash games that shouldn't be a problem because you just put in a raid boss that'll rape you by the time you're on your forth shot while the AR or auto shotgun chad brought it down yet bungie is so fucking atrociously retarded that they still made snipers best

this convo about DPS reminds me of discussions about world of tanks people would have back in 2013 or whatever, with some retards claiming that low alpha guns are totally okay since they have more damage per minute than russian 122s (tl note: by more DPM they meant barely noticeable amounts of it that one wouldn't be able to take advantage of in most cases anyway)

Anyway the developers from bungie are fucking retarded and you shouldn't play anything bungie puts out because they don't play their game nor do they care about weapon balance since shadowkeep

A sniper is so supposed to be big dick alpha strike damage but shit tier DPS

Nope, that's still wrong. Just because you spend a lot of time reloading doesn't mean the DPS is bad. It's just that you won't get a retry for a long time if you miss. But you don't factor missing into DPS calculations.

Just because you spend a lot of time reloading doesn't mean the DPS is bad

THE POINT IS THAT IT SHOULD BE YOU RETARD, THE SNIPER SHOULDN'T BE DOING MORE DAMAGE OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME THAN AN ASSAULT RIFLE OTHERWISE THERES LITERALLY NO POINT TO ANY OTHER GUN

Are you retarded? No, low DPS is NOT the point of a sniper rifle. The point of a sniper is long range accurate damage, but low crowd control and high punishment for a missed shot. No "spray and pray."
That is 100% outside the realm of DPS calculations.

No, low DPS is NOT the point of a sniper rifle

Yes it fucking is because in a stupid as fuck FPSMMO or even multiplayer FPS there is no "long range" every engagement is inside of fifty meters

I think you might just be too stupid to differentiate between "rate of fire" and "dps." Low one does not automatically mean low the other.

Why did they have to bring all the Unreal guns back just to make them all dogshit, I just wanted my shock rifle...

the weapons that got the unreal skins are genuinely good picks though... the coloring/materials on most of them are ass though.

peak Anon Babbleposting

I wish more games other than codadoody used dragon's breath shells.

Meanwhile the Doom 3 plasma rifle is pure sex.

TNV lets you use dragonsbreath rounds

you can't homebrew your own like you can with coinshot or flamer fuel that is pretty much weaponized cornwater

Payday 2 lets you mod shotguns with dragonsbreath rounds. Killing Floor 2 also has a particular shotgun that ignites enemies, IIRC.

Shotguns in Bad Company 2 were pure kino though. Was able to dominate almost every map with a shotgun using slugs.