KOREA TIME

Come watch some professional StarCraft: Brood War! We are now in the Play offs of the Afreeca Starleague, Season 19.
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JD (Z) vs Light (T)

Korean livestream: play.sooplive.co.kr/afstar1
English livestream: sooplive.com/sctven
Spanish livestream: play.sooplive.co.kr/basic0020512
Japanese livestream: sooplive.com/sctimes

ITS DONG TIME
god I hope today will be as good as yesterday

I hope Dong's wrists can keep it together.

terranbros

SHOULDERS STATUS: COVERED

caught up with ASL. Dong looked like he's in amazing shape. Hope he can blast light shame it'll be a ZvP afterwards

dong managed to banish the concept of pain from his mind

her shoulder game has been terrible for the last 2 seasons. I cant believe production hasnt told her yet to change into something proper.

fug

fug2. Dong looks like he's proud of seeing returns on his training

Hope we get to game six at least to see Death Valley again.

(You)

god, the games yesterday were amazing

I can't stand those enlish fag casters, so i'm listening to based Korean team .

god, the games yesterday were amazing

It was watching Queen blow his lead rather than Best winning. What a choke. Another season, and another Slump for the once King of Zerg (named Queen).

not listening to the japanese stream

I wonder how many japanese SC fans are out there. Probably played it on the n64

I missed the games yesterday, was it good because it was a trainwreck or good because it was actually good

This is an uphill battle for JD. Light is no slouch. I am not sure who to root for: JD might mean JD x Sk finals, and i hate zvZ finals.

Eclipse decider

god that would be such a shit show

muh tempo

CAM ON LIGHT *bang bang bang bang*
KILL SOME FAKKING DROBES

0 chance the Dong wins realistically, but I'll believe anyway

would you prefer death valley?

I was tempted to root for JD because he's the underdog, but I like Light too much and I'm bored of Zerg in the finals

we saw some actually innovative plays and most games were back and forth

StarCraft won't improve until they bring it back ot the hands of its creator: Keiji Inafune.

youtube.com/watch?v=KIzWt7wTp7Q

0 chance the Dong wins realistically, but I'll believe anyway

Light is the worst of the top tier players though. He's got solid fundamentals and consistency, but he rearely takes the top prize.

according to Soop a total of 6 viewers

light underperforms on-stage and dong is doing really well this season. Light is favored but I think an upset is possible

Barracks brothers... He trained so hard this season...

MAEK MUTA

no one can expect to get spitroasted by SK and light and live

if I hear "writing's on the wall" and "dot his i's and cross his t's" one more fucking time I'm switching to the korean stream

There were some great off-meta plays including hallucination (which failed because of targeting RNG), back and forth games and Queen ended up visibly losing his composure

both of them are too scared to go balls in

yesterday was absolutely great and should be a definite watch.
you could see how upset Queen was after each win, because it wasn't as clean as he hoped it to be and every loss crushed him even harder

20 years without zerg being nerfed

queen was already crumpling in his chair when he saw a nexus first. His mind was completely destroyed in the final games

heavy valks and decent micro

suddenly Vultures

I don't like this

wiggler out

he needs something against dark swarm and lurkers
and he has no vessels

mech transition

when will they learn

Why is he floating the raxxes forward?

why are they so cute

He's going mech so he doesn't need them anymore. Might as well get some vision.

he's going mech so he doesn't need them anymore, might as well use them to scout

Hivemind

KISS NOW

fucking Overlord speed to detect mines

These casters blabber way too fucking much. Muted.

mech switch

literally 1 tank so far

Dong looked like he's in amazing shape

Yeah if you followed his stream just before his ro16 performance last week then his form wasn't that big a surprise.
If I remember he triple killed sharp, mini, and flash (flash was bewildered at how one sided he lost)
So JD might actually show something special today who knows

Light did contain and prevent Dongs 4th pretty good so far, maybe it won't be so bad
clueless

ENTER QUEENS

The last few seasons Ive seen people say that jaedong was grinding, but every time he went down without really putting up a decent fight. So it is fun to see him actually put on a show this time. Light is tough but I hope he can at least take some maps.

Light you can't keep throwing tanks away like that ;_;

lube up terranbros

dong still has a Gas problem, he lost a shit ton of defilers and if Light does it right, Queen/Lurker/Defiler will kill dong on Gas alone

No EMP, IWARI DA

Wraiths to hunt Queens

no this is Kino

he needs to get ensnare

or he does PLAGUUUUUUU

1hp wraith fleet kek

awesome game

Trading vessels for this OOF

PLAEGU

Holy mega plague.

nice call

same APM

PLAGUU wraiths

JESAS

Dong was trying it several times already, but the Wigglers were too slow. that one was just the "had to happen" one

sleeping or deceased

wrong, this man is PLAGUUUed

STEEL versus bug

So close...

fucking 30minutes + full starve maxxing game

dongbros. How are we feeling

has gaydong ever heard of ultralisks
hydras just suck against tanks

+1 Wraiths vs. Zerg

Apologize. Leta had the right idea.

what a game

Jaedong threw this game hard. Light didn't play well at all but he kept losing overlords to stupid wraiths.

Tired and hungry

DONG status: Jae

He was winning for most of the match until the very end. If Queens thin out enough Tanks then Hydra ling wins the fight.

Kino game, even if the other games are blowouts I'm happy

thats why he had Queens, the problem was that Light managed to contain him early enough.
Dong was basically starve maxxing Gas and a third of his Army was Queens sitting in the back doing nothing.
Light denying the 4th for a long time basically allowed him to expand and face Dong over the whole match, because Lurker/Queen/Defiler gave him no way to go into Ultras

It was knife's edge because Light himself was running very low on minerals and was trying to expand INTO Dong's right bases. Securing the top left base is what won him the game.

it defintely was, but the late 4th on Dong's side basically allowed Light to do the Mech switch and besiege virtually the whole map with spidermines and thus edge this out

He also threw a whole army on the attack at 7 without a defiler
Still it was a close game hope the rest are like this

He was winning for most of the match

Hag bros... it's not looking good.

Terran gets too much shit for free. Instantly scan, irradiate defilers for free, just siege up tanks and lay mines all over the map, takes forever to clear up so it stalls the game hard.

dark swarm + single lurker is pretty bullshit too
30 tanks could fire on it and not kill it

mmmmm

It's honestly mind blowing how far Light got this season, his plays have been nothing but subpar.

That drobe got its first taste of SCB

Nevermind jaedong is back to his old shit self of folding to the slightest pressure

Correct. he seems like he's tired.

DROBE GENOCIDE

damn, that was BALLSY

RIP

Double Starport

WRAITH TIME?

LMAO 2PORT!

2port

:o

for vessels

:|

breddy gud surround
I wonder how he will early double vessel. needs firebats with shield

DONG STATUS?
WASHED

wigglers where are the goddamn wigglers

washed up

No smegma here.

if JD is going to play like this I'd rather light advance
he actually has a chance to kill soulkey for the health of the tournament

"muh OSLs" - jaedong

kill

soulkey

he's fighting for the continued survival of his family. What does light fight for?

To win the war

half these BW boomer pros have families wtf does this mean?

What do you know SVs hard counter mutas yet again

he doesnt know

only if your opponent is a grandpa who can't split anymore

come on dong score some fakking goals

ro16 is the comfiest

Doesn't matter when they can just build more SVs. Literally renders mutas useless for the rest of the game.

a few years ago soulkey lost some money to a real estate scam and changed his tag so "ineedmoney" or something like that
then he got tons of money from streaming, then he won asl multiple times and got even more money

SK got scammed out of like 400,000 and he's in debt that he has to pay off. He's slaving away at the SC:BW tournament mines untl he's paid the debt.

It's funny to hear artosis glaze speed so much because he "grinds ladder"
When has ladder performance meant anything in in any esport (beside being good for your thumbnail ad revenue) its all about teamhouse training and scrimming at elite levels

he got scammed with some car leasing/rental scam. Korean courts will just dump the damages onto you if the guy that scammed you and others ran away.
He was poor enough to be allowed to avoid the draft. So it's not a trivial amount.

do teamhouses still exist?

For other esports

TOTAL FUCKING DROBE DEATH

This always happens to jaedong vs light, 3rd base gets compromised

jejdong

just walk your marines into zergs' third, he can't legally stop you wihout your consent

jaedong bros...can he reverse sweep after this embarrassing 0-3?

This always happens to jaedong, 3rd base gets compromised

fixed

today is elder abuse day

ooh god, no, it's now mostly streaming and less pressure. Asians do Team Hosues for EVERY sport though - Koreans and Japanese do it for baseball especially. It's not something that was created for e-sprots.

This always happens to jaedong, period
Classic modern jaedong just give away free games to random small groups of MM

It's over

Wrist status?

During the break light is told to throw 3 games

That isn't even a wrist issue JD will never learn from his mistakes without a pro coach smacking him

Detonating

no, all the players are just streamers now.
hell, ASL's prize money is shit all these days, people are just competing in it for clout to boost their popularity online.

I meant for BW you dolts. We're talking about grinding for BW tournaments here

pretty much, its still fun to watch. I wish the university matches would be more powerful

Zerg players seriously needs to learn that Protoss/Terran just wants to end the game as quickly as possible, before late game, before defilers, because none of them can play it properly.

Retirement when JD?

nowadays it's just friend circles that play together, players often shout out their practice partners during post-match interviews

Those posts literally answer your question if your brain can grasp simple inference

I just realized I shouldve bought a can of hot6 while I was in korea.

wish they somehow incorporated the shittalking the streamers do into a tournament match. Maybe have a low stakes tournament in which pros take turns playing while the others sit on a couch as joke around, then give the loser shit and they switch places.

thats what the old boomer pros do regularly. you can catch it pretty often on Afreeca or on Queen's Twitch stream. they do a small 4vs4 scrims with winner fights the next guy, while sitting in voice and shittalking each other

Why would he retire, this is the only thing he knows how to do

cmon light just do a center 8rax and finish this

Please at least be entertaining Dong.

Why even bother with shit like ASL if you're already some old vet? I can understand people like Scan, muh dream and all that. But someone like JD has nothing to prove

Have they just played all their games on this map? i feel like the games i watched yesterday had more map variety. all the games i've watched today have been on basically identical maps.

Im surprised dong doesnt just 4pool this

Big Tourney means big Viewership, meaning more people will watch your stream later
shrimple ass

progaymers bitch and whine if not every map in the pool is a recolor of Lost Temple
they ban every map that's even slightly unique

It's a 4-player map, can't 4pool

otherwise retards on Anon Babble (me) will call him washed

muta vs marinemedic

Main has no gas

There, unique and DARING design for map. Hire me

He looks dejected when he loses these. JD is popular enough that he can just be a streamer and be alright, so I think he wants to prove himself he can still do it

for example, even if you are shit at the game you can make a viewerparty shittalking the players live
sometimes i wish I could speak korean, simply to understand their shittalking

50/50 chance you pick the correct corner when it isnt a cross spawn. Those are better odds than whatever dong has playing standard

light isn't dying to no 4-pool lmao

well AHKSHUALLY the fact that jaedong is even in the ro8 proves that he's not washed up!!!!

he did a natural wall which couldve been caught out by a 4pool.
but lets watch dong lose his 3rd again

youtube.com/@jinjinBW

708550245

fun and all, but its not live. which is usually the most entertaining factor

virgin rally in your natural

GIGACHAD rally on your opponent's wall

that community post

didnt know snow was such a fag.

hurr dont steal my views

btw dont bother making subs for me

DONG = GOD

Lights out

RAISE YOUR DONGERS!!!

Light is going to give 2 games for free then center rax on game 6 to win screencap this!!!

You were saying?

GET DONGED

based caveman play
just take muta ball and smash it against terran base until it breaks

I meak muta

what community post?

bew bew blus 1 air armour :D:D:DD

really need some Grug caveman edits.
Zealot, Marine and somehow Muta flying around with a club in their hand

GG, Dong did it!!!
Only just discovered Anon Babble's back, lel, glad someone else has been making threads.

Cammon Dong, get us to death valley at least.

60 MILLION?!
youtube.com/channel/UCJakiMVNG-QtofONWblZTWg/community?lb=UgkxUdl2EhFYuogP_vTa4Z4O9Pj50ARD7cwh

i didnt expect light to unplug his keyboard

youtube.com/channel/UCJakiMVNG-QtofONWblZTWg/community?lb=Ugkx5Z6PIniCaT6PylFjG8Bcu4HHkXX-Kuh0

oh fugg valgafries D:::D::

They should make these pro players compete on like, Snowbound once in a while.

what is starcraft university

cute uni girls forced to play some stupid boomer game so they can find their SC sugar daddy to get them through uni

what a time to be alive

dong getting bunker rushed out of semis

you hate/love to see it

Boomer-Pro takes various streamers under his wing and trains them.
Several Boomer-Pros have done this, creating so called "universities".
They let their underlings fight against each other in show matches

2bunker!

I won't drone pull cause uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

it's over

double bunkers

Shitshow incoming.

for

bunker rush is stronger than hydrabust I swear to god

TWO BUNKERS LMAO

It's ogre

GG naga jd

better against C-rank players maybe

Dongbros......
is this it....?

Nah I'm serious. The fact they can wall as well is fucking insane.

TWO BUNKERS
ONE HATCHERY
4-1

see you next week

Bros...

suiciding overlord into turrets

UHHHHHHHHH

sooo dishonest
but soo shit

welp jaedong ran out of gas in just 2 weeks lmao

ZvZ finals averted

say gg

it wasn't a gg at all

TERRAN MAN MARCHES ON

JDfags were hyping up this yesterday

there's a lot of ways bunker rushing can go wrong and while it's strong, if it fails you basically lose on the spot
hydrabusting is just "lmao me make hydra and push before storm"

Soulkey championship nearing confirmation. ZvZ is Soulkey's worst matchup (iirc) and with JD's loss, Soulkey is a step closer.

Light or Snow needs to win championship tired of Z*rg

The wall meta is super busted in this matchup. And at ASL level 4 pool isn't even guaranteed to be a win vs walls anymore.

apparently tickets were sold out in 15 seconds.

Terran can push early too basically for free and also have like 20-30 different builds. Zerg relies on heavy micro and the exact same units/strats so it's not the same

why the fuck didn't he pull drones? he had plenty of time while the bunker was going up and only 2 marines were at his natural.

if it fails you basically lose on the spot

lol no
it wasn't even anywhere of an all in, Light even built expansion

Well I didn't think Dong would get through but I was hoping he would at least make it interesting.

losing to wraiths is pretty interesting

well thats that for this week, PvP between Snow and Rain might be coo, but in the end its still PvP.
Rush is most likely getting gaped by Soulkey
nice

Godkey would never

Snow deserves it, he's played so well for so long yet has yet to win an ASL. At least Light has won once.

4pool was super busted for two reasons 1) larva spawned SUPER quickly originally and it was nerfed to hell 2) pool was cheaper. Then zerg got other big nerfs because Z was OP vs Protoss so that hurts zerg big time against terran, that's why the matchup is so busted. Still to this day I want to see SCVs have the same HP as other workers and see how the game develops, it'd change a lot of things. Make things more even for Z/P

there's a lot of ways bunker rushing can go wrong and while it's strong, if it fails you basically lose on the spot

lolno, they just wall back at home and zerg can't do anything about it.

Mini should be still here, they rig the groups against him

Mini doesnt have the mental

Mini is legit one of the few Protoss that I can see beating Soulkey.

Yeah it is.
Soulkey's stats are

63.9% vs P

59.2% vs T

51.2% vs Z

And Rain and Snow both have Zerg as their worst matchups so whoever wins will die to Sulky. Rush is a good player, but I don't think he's going to save us from Zerg.

dies in RO24

I should check some of these vids lmao

thoughts?

SCVs having 40 HP would instantly tank terran to 40% w/r versus other races.
Terran does well vs protoss because vultures are some of the most bullshit, cost efficient units in the game
TvZ is sorta bullshit for both races. Zerg gets muta harass and swarm, but if terran gets a cloud of 6+ vessels and doesn't let them get plagued+muta'd like a retard, there's almost nothing Z can do about it. It's fine I think.

Mini is inconsistent. He flipflops between being utterly godlike and playing like a complete scrub on a daily basis.

Rain and SK advance

he goes back in even though his soul gets sodomized with every loss

didnt he go 3-0 against SK only to then just go retarded 4 games straight?

kek this is basically Shuttles shtick
talk smack get rekt then turn off cam while his chat roasts him nonstop

Tasteless I am having chills right now. Jaedong is back to his prime.

Snow vs Rain is the highlight here.
Soulkey vs Rush might be good but Rush has to prep some really precise and pointed strategy to beat Soulkey.

Rain is insane at Pvp. Soulkey will rape rush.

just use recall correctly bro

SCVs having 40 HP would instantly tank terran to 40% w/r versus other races.

So fucking what, it's better then seeing Terran get free wins despite playing like shit. Light barely even used his vultures and still won. It's shit to look at

Mini can beat anyone but also randomly go full retard and lose to anyone.

Snow is probably fucked. Rain is a legendary PvP player.
Soulkey dying to Rush would be a huge upset.

not using the correct filename

C'mon bro.

I think Rain is pretty washed, back in the day he'd pick Snow and beat him but I don't think it's the same any more. SK will beat Rush easily and then Snow might stand a chance against SK if he's gets 1 or 2 cheese wins or something, SK might choke and make some big mistakes, you never know.

wanting to nerf T while Z has been the champion for the last 3 seasons

And they can easily make Z stronger by making the space between the natural minerals and the cliff smaller so mutas can be more oppressive. no need for your faggy ideas

okay, SCVs drop to 40 hp, but to make up for it probes don't regen shields, have to stand in place to warp in pylons like scvs, and become less mobile
and drones explode in a mini nuke dealing 200 damage to all nearby units any time they make a building

he definitely got weaker, after he donated half his liver to his dad

Light won because jaedong doesnt know how to analyze and improve his own play
Soulkey will show how it's done, then Flash next year

please leave your pointless balance whining at Anon Babblestarcraft

ok, but make it so terran and protoss lose a worker every time they make a building as well

old and decrepit now

can no longer wake up for Korea Time

all my Starcraft memories becoming tears in the rain

I wish you guys all the best. I'd kill to be able to watch Brood War again. Hell, I'd even do it to be able to watch SC2 with Tastosis commentary again. But all good things come to an end.

Terran players whining about Protoss will never not stop being funny. "nooo I have to build turrets and lay some mines to be able to instakill the warped army sooo sad I have to micro SCVs and vultures, it's so hard :("
Protoss is literally the weakest race they don't need any nerfs lol. Artosis beat someone in a tournament doing a cheese strat with marines

denied an epic 7 round lategame ZvZ clash between JD and SK

imagine the queens shooting broodling and the ultras.

Mini "our" P

who is "our" T and Z?

JD would fold in a quick 4:0 and you know it

luckily its noon for me but work is a bitch

Barracks and Shine

Arty is the biggest retard ever. "oh no I did the exact same strat of sitting on 3 bases for 30 minutes and never expanded or attacked my enemy, how come I lost as my opponent took 8 bases and overwhelmed me waaaah protoss OP"

that said protoss PLAYERS are bad for being the race least willing to improvise, while crying about other races. it took years for P players to remember that dark archons exist and maelstrom is a hard counter to mutas in the midgame. Reavers constantly flipflop in and out of being used and sometimes you go months without protoss players using them when they should. We saw Best try arbiters in pvz yesterday and it actually worked kind of decently well, not as a core strategy but as a surprise tactic it deserves experimentation.

dont say that anon. I want to believe

Protoss is the strongest race
They are the only ones that have a checkmate known as carriers
They are the only ones that have a unit that can kill 30 workers ON ITS OWN
Their defensive structures can hit ground and air
Zealot can beat every terran ground unit 1v1 with no micro
Nexus First
Storms. Recalls. Maelstroms.
You cannot debate this.

Neutral here, Zerg is blatantly the best race

They are the only ones that have a unit that can kill 30 workers ON ITS OWN

nukes and infested terrans
your move, atheist

nuke(s)

infested terran(s)

plurals

I accept your concession

3 bases

he now builds 3? I thought he would be 2base forever

They can't just sit in their base and just macro for 40 minutes like Terran players can in every matchup. Protoss basically needs a third base pretty quickly and hydras can essentially beat any Toss unit up until reavers/shuttle, they don't have the hardcounters Terran has for basically everything. Scourge can hit shuttles any time because dragoons really suck at killing scourge

Only 3 if the map allows him to wall a single chokepoint and hold all three
otherwise he stops at 2

just sleep earlier dummy

They are the only ones that have a unit that can kill 30 workers ON ITS OWN

Terran has that, it's called the eraser and it's free.

Leta and Mong

Protoss players are unwilling to commit to learning sair/reaver, it gets used maybe once or twice every year in pro matches. Dark Archons are still criminally underused although I'm glad they're seeing a small resurgence. Recall strats could still be refined more and I would like to see protoss players try to use multiple recalls to bounce units across the map. Even the dumb fringe strategies that obviously will never work would be fun to see every once in a while as a surprise factor, like Dweb committal or single scout harass.
Instead protoss players are content to just gateway man every game and then cry about shit being unfair.

Leta was kino. Wraiths, ghosts, 1-1-1. Absolute kino

A single vessel can't eraser itself, you need another one to cast irradiate on.

None of that shit is good, you’re just retarded as fuck and bad

The more you invest into anti-air the stronger hydras become, the second defilers starts existing it becomes a huge problem for Protoss because they don't have endless irradiates like Terran does

because they don't have endless irradiates like Terran does

They have endless Feedback. Genuinely the argument for protoss not using DA vs zerg is "I don't feel like microing, lol"

they have (garbage ability)

Why cant zerg always keep 6 mutas hiding somewhere during lategame to snipe plagued vessels? I always see the vessel plague happen and then no follow up