Anti-soul gas

Anti-soul gas

But how I´m supposed to be inmersed now if without the fog, the World feels smaller than parking lot?

I know you have been trying to push this meme forever but fog helps give a much needed sense of scale and distance to environments that are ultimately 2D

soul vs soulless

nobody outside of reddit cares about the demaster btw

Luv me anti-soul gas.

you just proved that it's necessary for modern games. right looks like shit.

saar it is soul that's gaseous

A little bit of atmospherics is good, but not to this level. A lot of it comes down to a poor choice of color blending making things look washed out rather than realistically foggy.

you just proved that it's necessary for modern games. right looks like shit.

I've realized this lately
The reason modern games brown, blurry and full of fog is that this is how the indian coders actually live
They think this is what the world is supposed to look like

hey at least they didn't turn it off 12 years ago and nobody ever noticed it

It should just be a toggle so people don't feel the need to have meltdowns about it.

How did you turn it off?

Fog has been used in art to create a sense of depth since forever. Go to any kind of art school, be it 3D computer art or physical painting, and teachers will tell you to incorporate fog.

The left side is a bit too much. But the right one looks ugly. There's a sweet spot between them I think is appropriate.

This is complete horseshit because where I live the skies aren't full of grey smog, I can see distant hills clearly. They don't feel magically close by.

It just looks bad. Videogames should focus on looking good, not "feeling real" or whatever the fuck. I played most of MH Wilds with Volumentric Fog turnef off, and in the cases where I turn it back on, i'm shocked at how ugly it makes everything.
It's a fucking meme, take it away and people will not ask for it back.

Setting>Graphics>Gas: off

Yet Anon Babble was seething about the lack of fog in GTA SA making the world feel small
Reminder: Contrarianism is a mental illness

only jeets, commiefornians and chinks think this looks good because it reminds them of the smog at home

zyklon Anon Babble

i hope you're not suggesting this would look better without fog

Is this fog shit why everything looks washed out? It looks like an overlay that just makes everything behind it dull.

Wrong. Anon Babble cares. We love making threads where we promote- erm i mean make hate threads about every remake ever.

Fog is quite natural. It depends on the weather. Sometimes it's clear. Sometimes it isn't. It doesn't have to be pollution.

Anon Babble is one person

the remastered versions fucked up the game on damn near ever level possible. also fog+piss filter is not the same thing as anti-soul gas

install modern game

launch

looks like shit

immediately look for mods that disable the devs "artistic vision" aka copy and paste settings from one UE game to another

the remastered versions fucked up the game on damn near ever level possible

this is bait

you are right about the piss filter but "anti-soul gas" and fog are the same thing.

Right looks worse but left does not look good.
I could swear that games in late 2000s could do fog properly, with objects losing contrast with distance. Why the fuck is it all just a color overlay now?

why don't they show videos of these comparisons instead of just screenshots?

Because that would destroy their narrative.

because it's way more effort to make videos

Look at the Alps at a clear day. The only effect you'll see is, the mountains look more blue the farther you look. There doesn't need to be a constant fog.

This is bait

install modern game

launch

looks like shit

immediately stutters within 10 seconds of gameplay

spend half an hour messing with settings to find the right combination to minimize drops

still drops from 90 to 50 when entering new place

realize game is shit anyway

uninstall

go back to generating sloppa

I love modern gaming

Fixed your kusoge cash grab, Todd.
I expect a beefy salary and a 5'4" angry latino mommy under my desk every Thursday.

Without the fog it looks just as shitty, reminds me of that gta trilogy remaster

Anon Babble is one person

all settings and environments are equal like smoggy representation of real LA and a crisp clear pre industrialized setting

Amazing how retarded some people can be while thinking they are making a point.
Silent Hill is an example where limitations and setting are improved by the fog but would be terrible in other games.

This should be obvious given it's the main way scale and distance are simulated in paintings but most gamers do not spare thought to immersion or atmosphere past

me want big shiny thing in my face right now

I'm so glad I don't posses this level of autism that actively hinders you. These are the same kind of people who put stereo cables on stilts so they don't touch the ground

holy shit

This is ultimately what changed my mind about fog. Sometimes it really is necessary. San Andreas felt much, much smaller once I saw that. That said, it was still kind of cool to see the whole world laid bare like that.

left

Striking, memorable art direction
Could be a tragic cutscene or an otherworldly passage to a fateful encounter

right

Photorealism, coloring book style direction: sky is blue, trees are green, sun is a yellow circle
Evokes "some city at lunch hour"

Are you all underage?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_perspective

The major component affecting the appearance of objects during daylight is scattering of light, called sky light, into the line of sight of the viewer. Scattering occurs from molecules of the air and also from larger particles in the atmosphere such as water vapour and smoke. Scattering adds the sky light as a veiling luminance onto the light from the object, reducing its contrast with the background sky light. Sky light usually contains more light of short wavelength than other wavelengths (this is why the sky usually appears blue), which is why distant objects appear bluish.

It's perspective 101 in arts and sciences. If you had other hobbies than gooning to oversized asses in Marvel Rivals, or if you'd at least get out of the house more often, to see how reality looks like, you'd knew that.

Yosemite Valley? More like Nosoulmite Valley lol

Are you joking? The GTA remastered trilogy might be the worst remaster ever made. It's laughably bad, to the extent that most people just wanted to play the original instead INCLUDING normies

On a clear day, the forest won't look like that. It will be mostly clear and then only start to lose clairty at a considerably far distance.

I don't see how "artists" can excuse forgetting that different environments look different - instead they just slop fog on everything. This is because they live in smog cities and they think that's normal.

It's usually overused to try and fool people into thinking the world is much bigger than it actually is. On first glance it usually works but the illusion immediately falls apart when you actually play it.
The left could easily be fixed by just increasing the distance before fog kicks in, like ensuring no fog appears at all between you and the tower, but after it slowly ramps up until only the hillsides in the background are obscured.

you know what also gives a much needed sense of scale and distance?
FUCKING SCALE AND DISTANCE
fuck modern bethesda

That pic is obviously in very humid and overcast weather. If you've ever gone hiking on a clear sunny day you'd know it's not that egregious.

daggerfall

if you want procgen shit you can play Saarfield

I like the fog, it adds atmosphere. Though maybe they should have made only specific areas foggy

Exactly. The game has a reasonable ammount of fog unless you live in arizona and that's before we take into account that it's a stylized representation of world scale. Every major city is not implied to be literally two miles from the capital. See:

well to be fair og daggerfall also had a short draw distance, only DF Unity can look like that picture
point still stands, Cyrodiil feels fucking tiny in oblivion

le procgen bad

how are your 50m long dungeons treating you timmy? didn't get lost I hope?

artyfactory.com/aerial-perspective/aerial-perspective-1.html

Educate yourself.

I don't see how "artists" can excuse forgetting that different environments look different - instead they just slop fog on everything. This is because they live in smog cities and they think that's normal.

No, it's because they know how perspective works.

video game worlds should be as big as the real world and full of useless shit that does nothing except add to the distance i need to walk

Hire fans

right looks worse and I don't even like fog

No. Take san andreas for example. Fags that keep on calling fog removal as sovl deserve the rope

>Educate yourself.

True, you should. Maybe one day you will, instead of acting like you know everything because you googled a term you don't understand.

Clearly is a Daggerfall reference

video game worlds should be streamlined theme parks, containing only predetermined points of interest and nothing else

love how photographers around the world fight back against this with filters and lenses to capture an idealized image of the world, but game devs and "creative directors" insist on adding it in games at the expense of milliseconds of gpu-time

That's how cultural works are created on this planet. Nothing exists in video games, movies or photographs aside from the handful of points the creator has chosen to display.

If you care about this, you're gay.

the only filter worth a damn is a CPL, the rest are memes

The original had atmospheric scattering but not at this absurd level.
It looks like shit how almost every single game does it, it should be reserved for your far off places not a house down the road.

this is how perspective works according to Anon Babble

Good post

please never make video games

Starfield exist for you

Anti-soul gas

when you leave your house do you notice that objects far in the distance are not completely clear and crisp? is fog or haze just a natural phenomenon you would prefer weren't in games

You literally have half the picture in anti-soul fog, on the static air background.

photographers around the world fight back against this

game devs and "creative directors" insist on adding it in games

That's also more or less how we got shit like lens-flares, chromatic retardation, filmgrain, etc.

hey look at this one dogshit game with no redeeming qualities whatsoever that just happens to have procgen worlds

you fags that need to hyper-optimize everything are ruining gaming. leave the fog on. leave lumen on. enjoy the game. holy shit

OMG IS THAT........ LE WEATHER???

NOOOOOOOOO

Being retarded doesn't make you look smart.

in the distance

Not at 50 meters, retard that's the point of this thread!
People aren't angry about atmospheric effects they're angry because anti soul gas starts almost near your character like you live in fucking Beijing or something

you'd have a point if there were days so clear and crisp there was practically no haze, but there aren't
Cyrodill has to be fungus paradise with all that humidity

The original also had foggy weather, but the difference was that every day wasn't foggy day.

far in the distance

"far in the distance" is not how volumetric effects are applied in 99% of games, unless the opposite side of the room in your own house is considered "far in the distance" to you

This entire discussion always ends up being mentally retarded and is probably a bunch of browns quibbling if we're being honest. Expect nothing less than un-nuanced full commitment to the exact opposites of what's being argued or argued against.

Cyrodiil? More like Silent hill!

That's also more or less how we got shit like lens-flares, chromatic retardation, filmgrain, etc.

I found it really funny how cybernetic eyes in Cyberpunk 2077 had chromatic aberration up the ass as if it was some 2002 CCD camcorder, while VR/AR headsets we have TODAY have way better image quality at affordable prices.

I don't know how you could possibly deny it's shit. Just the art style they committed to is crap. It was something that never needed to be fixed and they made it worse, and used AI.

so where does it say it's supposed to be photorealistic? even movies these days don't look real with all the filters and color grading

Cyrodill has to be fungus paradise with all that humidity

some dev read once on the internet that Cyrodiil was a jungle before it was changed into normal land so their two braincells decided that everything needs to be damp, humid and foggy

OG or Remaster Spider Daedra?

bloom boobs

it's le bad on purpose don't you see

self owning argument, nice

Game looks so good bros welcome change from Skyrim's sameish environments.

remaster

It should be visible ~300m from a player, I don't understand why they make it so thick

i can use google image search, therefore your opinion is pointless

Once you fags stop talking about things you don't understand and focus on PARTICULAR instances where it looks good or looks shit you'll never get anywhere and you'll just be quibbling forever.

yeah, it's great you finally understood

reverse search my pics and see where they lead you to

looks shit

99% of modern games that use it

looks good

uhhhh RDR2 I guess

It only says on/mustard for m

its rage/engagement bait dude... no one with a functioning brain things the right looks better in OP's pic

do you live in an RV parked in a walmart parking lot?

sovl

plane is going downwards the same speed as the rain is falling

this is pretty cool actually
what's the issue?

wiki

yeah that's not true.

That's caused by the atmosphere

you'd have a point if there were days so clear and crisp there was practically no haze

Doesn't Skyrim do this? I'm pretty sure there's days in game where the only mists are the ones around the mountains.

fog helps give a much needed sense of scale and distance

In te distance, yes. Not all fucking around, shiteater.

honestly believing that modern game devs are applying volumetric effects in some effort to convey a specific "style" when almost every game new game is employing techniques like PBR, photogrammetry, and raytracing to yield the same cookie-cutter semi-photorealistic look

Volumetric fog is nothing more than the rendering technique du-jour, just like the eye-searing bloom of the mid-to-late 00s. But bloom never went away, because the issue was never about whether or not it was present, but moreso the specific way in which it was incorporated.

Bloombas

PBR is used in both stylized and realistic games, midwit-kun.

Remember when people were saying old minecraft fog was soul? kek

that's soul gas though

todd has sold us skyrim a dozen times, it makes sense that his next move would be to resell his other games.

Bait aside. I disabled volumetric fog because of how obsessives it is at all times. I play using HDR and the fog would mute all of the colors making everything gray and washed out. I did like the fog in indoor areas since it does add a lot of atmosphere to the scene. But I remember the OG oblivion being colorful. I need to find a way to allow fog indoors but not outdoors.

it is fungus paradise, it's absolutely peppered with mushrooms.

Your point being what, exactly? I never claimed otherwise.

right would only look good if it had film grain

Vvardenfell... home...

The problem with the fog isn't that there's any at all.
The problem is that it's way too dense and close.

live in place similar to this

look outside

distant vistas covered by thin layer of fog

Go kill yourself.

you best be joking, n'wah

Your inability to understand a subject doesn't make a response to something contrarianism because you couldn't understand an unrelated argument made before.

Its almost like art direction is very important and complex or some shit. Almost like GTA SA could be forgiven due to running on a fucking PlayStation 2 with (at most) 32mb of shared RAM.

distant vistas, for example, a campfire 10 feet in front of your face?

This is all that needs to be done and its frightening how it isnt obvious. Its like if a group of mechanics are trying to figure out why the wheels keep falling off a car and dont realize that they should perhaps tighten the bolts. It should be common sense.

Not at 50 meters, retard that's the point of this thread

In OPs pic it's more than 50m it's hundreds of metres wtf are you talking about

If it's commonly accepted as "future looking" then it's probably a good choice to use in a cyberpunk game. Having everything ultra clear and crisp due to superior technology removing any distortions isn't what people aesthetically expect (maybe subconsciously at least). A perfectly crisp and clear rendered image is rather "boring" so to speak.

This is one of the very few cases where the fog is justified. Look at how fucking shit the right picture looks.

This, fog creates a sense of depth and distance. Didn't you guys pay attention during Joy of Painting?

it only manages to make it look like early morning for the whole day

Games aren't paintings though. A painting portrays an image at a fixed angle at a specific moment in time; an effect that might look good in a painting can end up looking strange and discordant in a 3D-rendered game world that you can see and explore to any degree, from any angle for hours at a time.

thats fuckin wild

that's how rain actually works, chuds

Thats the best time of day so its fine

Yes, although colors are still too washed out even without it.

you do not understand the argument and conversation at all. i genuinely can't tell if you are retarded or just ESL

They need to hide low res textures/LOD further away.

Games should have weather and do both.

Do they run factories there? Fucking smog.

Anon, I will pretend that you are joking, even though in my heart of hearts I know that you are just retarded. The rain would have to be moving HORIZONTALLY at jet speed for this to make any sense at all.

Just finished the main story and will finish the mages guild shortly. This is the most I've been engrossed in Oblivion in years and it didn't take a week of troubleshooting mods. Feeling good but burnt out after 70 hours. Time to take break and try expedition 33

depth of field

it looks even worse like the character has fucked up sight

Gas: on

This. Left looks like a wide open world and the castle looks really far away. Right looks like a toy.

This is chatGPT

Imagine the smell

Can anyone tune the fog to realistic levels? Those mountains are so clear it's like we're on the moon

there is nothing wrong with fog. its just that developers often over-use it. it really needs to be tuned so that in large open areas it starts near mountains, and in closed areas like forests its more prominent

also, its often confused with atmosphere which is a different thing. atmosphere is more like dirt and sand particles rather than white fog

what's the issue?

You're flying into the rain idiot, it should travel towards the screen

Are you retarded? It's not an appeal to realism in a vacuum. Real life is prettier than IV remastered. So the world is both uglier and less believable because too much fog.

It's being ignorant of time of day / temperature that annoys me. Morning has fog because the upper atmosphere cools and drops water vapour. After the sun has been out a while it atomizes that shit, and you definately wouldn't see near fog on a sunny afternoon after a dry rainless day. Also in the shots I've seen the fog is white for a normal sunny day, when if this were a proper simulation of humidity it would be blue.

soul just means old bud. Its all just old good new bad

.t he has never his basement

The only reason people accept this retarded fog as part of "realistic" graphics is due to

A) never leaving their basement

B) living in regions that are perpetually coated in weather engineering goo

On clear days after a cleansing rain the sun isn't white, but yellow/orange and you can see for miles -- much farther than OPs picrel. If you own a Nikon Superzoom, the difference between goo'd up air and air cleansed by rain is actually terrifying.

the gas should be on the mountains in the back, not something so fucking close.

it all makes sense now.
some indian or chinese is responsible for making the game and this is the conditions they live in. they dont know any better.

the ingame fog is just like real life!

on a clear day one can see france from england in real life

in games you wouldn't even be able to see the bottom of the white cliffs of dover

Artstyle > Graphics.

fog is fucking kino, you're just brown and have no soul

i love SOUL GAS
op is a fag

this so much this
I'm having a BLAST with the game so far

I love my mist filter especially at night

OP's entire argument hinges on the fact that anons have never ventured outside of their city.

nope
what a retarded boomer opinion

wtf I should be able to see everything in this image in crystal clarity because that's how it works IRL

lol

NO NO NO WHY CAN'T I SEE EVERY PART OF THIS LEVEL CLEARLY LIKE IT'S A DRY DESSERT SETTING??? WTF IT'S NOT FAIR

This is clearly different, it's not a filter but actual physical fog in certain areas

If you're too much of a dumb nigger to actually address my point, you can just say so, you don't have to cope by projecting your brownness onto me.

LOOK AWAY OP IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOOD AAAHH

I feel like there should a third option somewhere between those two pics

Is there a mod yet that pushes back the fog like this but keeps the rest normal looking?

It's always cute seeing youngsters first learn about atmospheric perspective becoming newbie artists. I'm a concept artist and this shit is hilarious, go do a hike around some mountains with a large vista on a clear day around noon. Tell me how much haze you see like this lmao

if you can't tell the difference between soulsmog, copehaze, and nu-mist, there is LITERALLY no hope for you as a gamer

Rich because remastered fog levels match city smog

there's atmospheric effects in this photo of a mountain distant mountain, and yet you find it strange when a more intense version exists in a game at a distance of 20 meters? HYPOCRITE?

oh so you don't like this atmospheric effect but you're okay with this literally completely different, unrelated weather phenomenon? HYPOCRITE!!

Fucking retard, I can see why aristocrats would just kill people like you in the past

You need to remove the volumetric fog between your face and your monitor if you think your image looks anything remotely like the way Oblivion Remastered and most other modern games use their fog

how can I prove my point? Through words like a civilized human?

no I would rather wish you were dead

RIP bantz

The point is that it makes it look far

it doesn't though. It makes it look retarded and wrong.

LOL??

A bunch of cucks are about to play Zelda with fog filter on Switch 2 without the ability to mod it out like sane civilized emulator enjoyers, enjoy your monetized downgrade retards.

fixes silent hill

That's just how real life works. Look at the horizon IRL you don't have infinite draw distance

on tonight's episode, Anon Babble learns that sometimes both extremes are... le bad

I made a thread about this a week ago. This is a photo I actually took outdoors. The hue from the atmosphere actually starts quite far away.

And here is the same photo an anon "remastered"

Like you

so as we can see the extra fog makes everything worse
but there is an extremely serious problem with your post
and that is that you cannot name even a singular video game that has this reasonable amount of fog. no, every single game made by fogbrains would have the tree in the distance entirely obscured by fog. not just that, but where the grass starts. 5 feet in front of you? fuck you, fog instead. locked to 20 FPS 720 btw, max of 6 characters on the screen at all times so the xbox doesnt run out of vram. have fun

lmfao yeah what the fuck

far cry 5

yeah
that's different

for all the series flaws, far cry has great environments and it probably does the draw distance thing right
like even if you live next to mountains, visibility comes and goes and it gets lke that semiblue haze over it
BUT at appropriate distances

hard to simulate that but far cry 5 did alright

see even here
it does do that but very very very far away
oblivion is just a really tiny game and they basically just put grass over the same map geometry

Ubisoft has some incredible environmental artists working for them. Remember that watch dogs 2 has a specific setting in the menu to enable san francisco smog as it uses are more complex shader and has a performance hit, but looks more realistic.

That's just Detroit

Remasters have no soul, fog or not.

Nu-tendo games have some of the worst anti-soul gas I've ever seen. Yet another shit trend they started with BOTW.

It's this generation's bloom or motionblur or piss filter
It makes sense to add the effect, but not anywhere near this much

This. Holy fuck, what a worthless thread. It's obvious that atmospheric scattering exists and should exist in media to an extent, but that video games use it far too heavily. This topic has gradually gone from something that only a few people give a shit about to yet another that's mainstream enough to attract contrarian garbage like the painting spam.

Why are there over 200 replies ITT? Are there people who unironically do not understand that you use distance fog to emulate the sensation of a mountain that is 25km away when it is 1-3km away in the game world.

Is it some sort of mental illness? A yearning for their open world games to feel like a sm64 map? Is it just their mind demons telling them that it is a conspiracy by big graphics?
It cannot only be people pretending to be retarded.

no I don't remember that because I don't play shit games

You lost.

you literally do, i can see a 400km away mountain range from my city

I like it.

I really don't get this talking point that you or a few anons have been talking about for a while now. Is fog not allowed in games anymore? granted i don't think it's suitable for the oblivion remaster. But I've seen people talking about in other games so I'd rather just talk about the concept as a whole.

theres not even clouds though

environments that are ultimately 2D

Huh

We want the californian audience

Retard, this kind of fog used to be nessesary because the PS2 couldn't display much more in the distance.
Today we can, but they still add volumetric fog that not only looks like shit when abused like this but is also a performance killer too.

See here, retard-kun. Your picture has distance fog too, you see a hill in the distance on the left, it looks to be roughly 15km away.
In oblivion, the furthest you can see is only a few km, yet it tries to convey the sensation of looking dozens of kilometers into the distance. Without distance fog to trick the brain into thinking the Jerall mountains are dozens of kilometers away, you realize that they are in fact almost directly in front of you, making the game world feel like it takes place in a theme park and not a massive open world.

Basically, you have a mental illness and you are wrong.

name even a singular video game that has this reasonable amount of fog

The elder scrolls IV (2006)

bro you don't get it, having gas in interiors is realistic, want proof? take a look at the mountains 5 miles away!

I'm convinced all these faggots never stepped foot outside. You only start seeing blue fog like that at like 50km far away objects.

meanwhile on mars

Oblivion was always shitty. I remember being hyped for it back in the day, thinking how much could better could they do after Morrowind. And then it came out, it was so bad, it was broken, it had a shit story, and then there was fallout 3, and I realized Bethesda went full slop.
When I saw people excited about this, I felt so fucking old. They are all kids, nobody even knows what a huge disappointment it was.

More like your average summer day.

Kino.

Nothing unusual here, that's just a house that's on fire somewhere

Bruma... Home.

There's no mincing words about it, the remasters just look like visual vomit. Rockstar offering the originals on their launcher now shows that they know they fucked up and made another Xbox 360/PS3 tier bad port again (the mobile port just a reminder)

Soulful swamp gas of +10 SOVL.

It's not like you would never see this in a game with reasonable fog. When the sun rises you could see this after a twilight fog, but it's sunset, not sunrise. All the fog should be gone.

lol I did not know that
if I didn't play some game series on my xbox just because I'd never use it, so ubi games I usually plonk on that because practically nobody I know has an xbox
good cap, man

Midnight necromancy kino.

even fucking mario kart...MARIO KART has now anti soul gas lmao

hory shit you're right!

What would look better is if the game had its soft focus filter like the original that blended the colors

Pond contemplation is a tradition Cyrodiilic activity.

I swear the car plate in this was randomly generated, but it made me chuckle.

I love this game so much, sisters.

visible here, although we don't need bloom anymore (maybe, the game doesn't have native HDR i've heard), the soft focus is part of the art style

Pond on a rainy, foggy day.

left looks way better. got no problems with fog. it's depth of field i have a problem with. why would you blur my fucking game?

bethesda marketers trying to spin low contrast fog as a good thing

The night, the pharmacy, the street,
The pointless lamppost in the mist.
A quarter century recedes —
There’s no escape. It all persists.

You’ll die — and you’ll begin anew,
As in the past, all will repeat:
The icy channel flowing through,
The lamp, the pharmacy, the street.

- Alexander Blok

ummmmm this looks good actually???

I can't believe it took somebody this long to start posting botw/totk. It's by far the worst example of this and it pissed me off constantly while playing
Thank fuck for emulation

Heavy sunset fog. In other words: sheer, undiluted kino.

wow that one's especially bad

The problem is it looks nothing like what it's trying to actually depict. It doesn't look like distance fog from the atmosphere, it looks like smog from Bangladesh

There is so much sovl in this image it has assumed a thick, gaseous form -- a sovl gas, you might say

bootup the newest unreal slop game

open console

type r.fog 0

start gaming

wow WPL looks great

I can't believe I'm now so old, I share the board with literal mentally handicapped retarded underage newfags, holy shit.

anti-money moan

Looks like Lego Island

The foreground is cropped out like your brain cell

All they really need to do is keep right, but add even taller mountains way in the back that have some anti-soul gas on them.

why do games who try to look realistic choose to be ugly when reality can be so beatiful?

Stop using graphics cards from 10 years ago and upgrade you retarded fucking nigger faggot, and quit spamming the catalogue with your mind-numbing niggery nigger posts about how you get 30 FPS because of "MUH GAS" when everyone normal human being is playing on a 3060 or better by now.

this image is antisemetic

Because the people who code modern games live like this

That cat had a better life than mine

Your shitposting, because all the shit is falling out of your skull onto your keyboard.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haze#:~:text=Haze is traditionally an atmospheric,the clarity of the sky.

Both of these look like ass, UE is truly a cancer affecting games.

why do the mountains in the distance lose vibrancy and gain a dark blue tint?

truly the anti-soul gas is everywhere

key word is "in the distance"

Genuine question: is the fog an aesthetic choice devs are making or is it to deal with performance/pop-in/loading issues by hiding things?

I fucking hate the foggy look of a lot of games, but I can't even imagine how some of these games would run if it showed everything in detail. My PC is hard garbage, so I'm playing the remaster on PS5. Even on performance mode, it constantly drops to 15-20 fps when you get a few enemies on screen or you're going a tiny bit too quick through denser forests. I assume taking away the fog would double that issue, right? Or at least make unrendered/untextured parts of distant environments way more noticeable on consoles?

Is it just a console sacrifice that they carry over universally?

when reality can be so beautiful

Clearly isn't that beautiful since you exist in it.

Also

WHY DON'T VIDEO GAMES LOOK LIKE REAL LIFE YET?

Lmao

Here we can see the typical amount of fog on planet earth because I used a crop tool. Remember to wear your navigation lights

The detail is still impacting the perfomance even if you cover it up with anti soul gas particles. There's 0 gain perfomance wise, and in most cases it only makes performance worse

Is it just a console sacrifice that they carry over universally?

Yes, same with motion blur

Yep, it's finally time to game

i just dont see a reason why games can look like that... you know with grass being green and no pissfilter and brown fog everywhere and actually having color and contrast.... having only brown grey and muted colors is not a performance thing its a deliberate stupid choice.

i just dont see a reason why games can look like that

correction
i just dont see a reason why games cant look like that

Your picture has distance fog too

he addresses that in literally the 2nd sentence. you can't read 2 sentences? kill yourself roach.

Imagine seeing these views every day. Not a nigger in sight.

Paradise.

grass being green

It isn't neon green, that's just a different set of filters for Instagram whores

this was only a thing because during this era every other game had that filter shit going on

Anon Babble forgets games are tuned for consoles first and when you are 2m+ away rendering at 1080p and outputting to a 4k screen having the fog so close obscures a lot of rendering artefacts.

It's just a technique developers use to swindle people.

/thread

there's 2 reasons I can think of

gives a higher sense of scale to the map, like in GTA SA

hides imperfections in the distance like LOD models

also, it does work as far as the atmosphere goes, with different strengths and/or tones depending on certain weather conditions or times of day. but most modern devs can be asked to do this, so they have it at the same strength at all times. also, deadlines come into play. most projects like this are just given a deadline, so devs just cut corners on the little details

please do not redeem the soul saar

and this is what it actually looks like

cat?

World always looks small from this vantage point, have you never fly on a plane?

It's amazing how generic and ugly this game is, you can really see the 3rd world slave labor at work, which people(shills) are pretending is anything other than corporations using the cheapest and lowest skilled people they can get for a greedy cash grab.

This looks like shit, no wonder I hate going out

buy this expensive gpu goy

just to look at fog

Fuck off

see

Comprehend the substance of the argument you absolute retard.
He said it had fog but it was a far distance away, but that is not an excuse, it is the core of the issue we''re having. A game's open world is in reality a tiny space, yet you want the 60 sqkm game world to feel like a 20 000 sqkm game world. Everyone understands that an open world rpg set in a game world that is so big that you do not need visual trickery to sell you the scale would be ass to play due to sheer distances, so you want a manageable play area without it feeling like bobomb battlefield from sm64.

Fucking retard.

I normally find faggots on Anon Babble complaining about graphics to be obnoxious but Monster Hunter Wilds is genuinely one one the worst looking games I've ever seen due to how excessively overused the haze is. I have this big, beautiful HDR monitor that can display all these beautiful, vibrant colors and this game's entire scope is "slightly-tinted shade of light gray" to "slightly-tinted shade of dark gray".
And it's a shame, because, every now and then, the game dials back on the fog and looks gorgeous, especially if you tweak the brightness settings like you're supposed to.

Your

just use mods

still doesnt explain why they kill off colors and contrast, grass is green not grey etc

the trees release isoprene into the air which makes it look blue

I've stood in this exact spot and it had a lot of fog.

Imagine seeing these views every day. Not a nigger in sight.

Those areas are absolutely SWARMING with chinese tourists.

i dont understand your point... in that webm there is no fog and it looks better, so the question remains why do devs choose to make their games ugly when reality can look so beatiful... yes reality can be ugly as well but.. you have the choice to not depict your game ugly and instead make it beautiful sooo... yeah lol

But Lauterbrunnen in the fog ALSO looks beautiful. I certainly didn't feel like I was standing in an ugly place at all.

ok even more reason for devs to not make their games grey brown and muted

Brown I'll give you. I don't think fog is inherently an issue though. Lauterbrunnen was VERY green.

Damn you're a fucking genius. We should also scale down player movement speed so it takes as long to cross the game world as it would a real person to walk across the real world. You know, to make it feel bigger.

i have seen days in real life at the same locations that look like both sides of this picture.

art direction means making things look nothing like what they actually look like

This is why people hate you fags.

trolling outside of Anon Babble is against the rules.

I know you're not this retarded, if you realize you are wrong just stop talking.

Don't you fucking dare call somebody else retarded when you don't even bother reading the entire post before replying to it, you dumb fuck.

The core issue is that it looks like shit in game and you can't see it because you have brain and eye cancer. Fuck you.

You faggots didn't complain when morrowind did it.

that's odd, my game didn't have that much fog. is this the console version?

agreed

this is why I compulsively walk in every single game I play
it's just not realistic to run everywhere all the time

You can just mod it out, as well as a bunch of other trash processing effects. Even the global llumination makes the game look bad sometimes, it's fucking baffling.

It looks great during Sandtide, pretty much essential to turn the fog on when fighting Rey Dau. Otherwise, it needs to be off the rest of the time because it will make you subconciously hate the game.

one of the prettiest games also has anti-soul gas but you forget about it most of the time, but it's definitely overdone

A game's open world is in reality a tiny space, yet you want the 60 sqkm game world to feel like a 20 000 sqkm game world.

remastered renders terrain outside the playable area, even an accurate skyrim, this isn't an issue at all

this is soul gas and-or fog for performance reasons

anti-soul gas is pointless and only makes games look bad

one a sunny day? The issue isn't remastered is sometimes foggy, its always too much fog

how the fuck are you talking about soul in a third party remaster UE5 slop

the reason why my attacks keep missing is due to the massive fog

k-kino..!

One major difference is cranking the fog blue and making the whole game colorful, so the soft blue is a relief from the vibrant foreground

1st tree 6m tall

2nd tree 100m tall

3rd tree 100km tall

You're fucking retarded

the fog changes color depending on various factors and that's not an example of it being over-done and bad. Going through my pics and thinking about it, it's probably not shitposted as much because it's often SOUL-gas. I'll try to find a pic where it looks bad.

I should have just waited 5s to post this. Here's one.
It doesn't kick in for quite a distance but when it does it's often too strong in the nearest plane, I would really like it if they toned it down slightly in the mid range distance. The game is huge and has incredible vistas and sometimes the fog just doesn't work well.

its called atmospheric haze dummy.

holy SOUL

That's fog dumbass.

Shit is based on time of day and last for 5 minutes. You slap-boxing chimps are hilarious though so carry on with your nonsensical bullshit.

Right looks worse

Nah.

Why the fuck is it all just a color overlay now?

Because it's volumetric now with global illumination.

Posting some actual examples, since nigs and nigbots are fucking up the thread and other fags keeping taking the bait.

Also, some of these are about general proper contrast instead of just anti-soul gas.

I need CBBE and skimpy armor mods

don't you mean HGEC BBB? noob

i..its based on time of day or weather or whatever

ok? why does the game have to look ugly at any point in time? why not just not make it ugly at any time?

Devs always go overboard to show off the new shit, the problem is they lack restraint, not the tech itself

BotW on CEMU with the fog removed, the framerate at 120, the LOD distances increased and the resolution increased might as well be a completely different game.

It just doesn't.

look mom I posted it agaaaaain!!!xDDD

PBR, photogrammetry, and raytracing

This stuff just makes making games easier so devs stop thinking.

It's funny because I really hate what they've done to vidya but at the same time I'm extremely excited for AI which will make game dev even easier.

How far away is that mountain?

It's Rayleigh scattering, and it has nothing to do with fog, retard.

damn the low iqs got real mad at this

imagine defending this

i see... oblivion remaster is having some california wildfire issues

I bet it looks dark at night too. You could take 16 different screenshots of the same spot they'd all look different from time and weather.

ok? why does the game have to look ugly at any point in time? why not just not make it ugly at any time?

implying Oblivion looks anything like that

Imagine hating billboarding

piss filter and fog is needed because consoles

You can get better sights in fucking Minecraft dude

16 chunks

Mods?

Is that cow stupid? Doesn't it know that rivers contain bacteria?

What mods? This is the first screenshot I've ever seen of Oblivion that looked good enough to play.

Seeing that this is the alps, it's probably pretty clean water straight from the local glacier.

we know. modern artists massively overdo it. this shit is supposed to create distance between very distant objects - not obscure the opposite shore of a lake 100 metres across. it's also supposed to settle around ground level because of atmospheric pollution and vapour. that's why the base of a distant mountain is hazy but the top is clear and sharp.
you absolute amateur retard. you're not an artist. artists make things.

What a retarded cope

The fog is there to hide all the low res textures on console popping in

what the hell is wrong with your monitors that that ugly shit looks good to play?

Please tell me someone's working on porting in the old Oblivion interface instead of that Skyrim shit.

Top looks better

I'm on an OLED and that modded screenshot looks great, nice color contrast

That reminds me I gotta look into Niagara Fluids.

cringe

Once I beat shivering isles I think I might be done
Good memories to be honest
Simpler times
Might speedrun the other side of the Shivering isles just for the achievement, or I might just say fuck it

nexusmods.com/oblivionremastered/mods/607 (I tweaked this one a lot but it was a great base)
nexusmods.com/oblivionremastered/mods/510
nexusmods.com/oblivionremastered/mods/1528
Someone forgot to calibrate his monitor.

no amount of calibration will make that ugly ass screenshot look good. even this simple one is fucked up

blurry but oversharp

ugly trees

anti soul gas

we get it ivan, it should be grayer

ugly textures

isn't even colorful

seriously retarded taste

I'd offer to buy a new monitor but I understand that $300 is a massive sum of money for someone like yourself.

you have to buy a $5000 monitor to make this ugly game look good(it still looks ugly even after doing this)

the absolute state of this shit eater

Consider this: if everything else on your monitor looks off, maybe it’s not as good as you think.

There is nothing wrong with my monitor, you're just a coping shit eater.

I'm just trying to help, it's not really the place for you to release your angst, you know.

post an ugly screenshot

samefag asking what mods because you want to shill your shitshade

someone points out its ugly telling you your monitor is fucked up

"no YOUR monitor is broken"

posts a buggy screenshot

lmfao yeah, thanks for the help

legitimately nausea-inducing

Much needed according to whom? Fucking consolefags? If your game has scale and distance, then rendering its environments, even by using LODs will make it look ten times better than slapping inexplicable fog on it, as if Demons Souls is just taking over. Motion blur does not help give a much needed sense of real motion, depth of field does not help give a much needed sense of focus, chromatic aberration does not help give... whatever the fuck it's supposed to give, and fog does not help give a much needed sense of scale. Post processing effects are optional. That's why they're called post. If they were really important, they would be in the game when it was fucking rendered.
*Notable exception for jaggy reduction anti aliasing. The exception that proves the rule.

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