Khorinis... home

Khorinis... home

At least it was before I fucked everything up.

less than 30 homes and like 6 other buildings

packed like 200 NPCs there

is this the famed german efficiency?

Every NPC has his own sleeping place, some stay in the hotel or brothel or the barracks. I think only the Fire Mage stays around at night.

I never played Gothic 1 nor 2. Did I miss out?

yes

No they're slop

Fuck off underage faggot

Gothic 1 and 2 are basically open world done right. They're not the greatest shit ever and are pretty janky in some regards but you should definitely try them out.
The worst offender are the controls. They are perfectly usable once you've got used to them but that might take a while and they're still kinda weird. If you don't like them get the controller mod, it's pretty good.

Gothic 1 and 2 in general really nailed big enough world that's still handcrafted and memorable. It never needed to get bigger than that.

that's entirely dependent on the PC you had back then. Just a year difference in GPUs could make all the different back then.

F1 fog plebs self reporting

it's mindblowing how dense the city is given its size

considering you have to go out of your way to reach it I would say almost everyone

Didn't NOTR expansion ruin the game? Now fighting feels like a grind and now I have to be super extreme with what build I'm gonna for so now mage builds get fucked in the early game. The NOTR island is at least cool but I felt burnt out after Chapter 3

because the slow backstep makes you die

I liked stealth of all things. Just not pickpocketing RNG in Gothic 2.

2h just starts off horrendously bad because of attack animations and then you have disproportionate strength investment later on that could be better spent elsewhere

no, the vanilla game is so easy it makes the game not fun. You can become strong in NOTR but yeah you have to plan your build better

I think it's the effect of all that winding streets.

I replayed NOTR quite a few times and from my experience as long you put your base dex to 34 it is genuinely hard to fuck up your build from there. if anything dex is too strong in NOTR, all builds will benefit from it even otherwise pure mages due to pickpocket XP.

Base game was a bit too easy. You had enough skill points to max out everything you wanted. They aren't really an issue in NOTR either but at the very least you have to spec towards something. Not sure if it changed anything about the difficulty, I don't remember it too well, I think it got harder and I really liked how you got assraped for an entire chapter when they introduced black people to the game, those niggers were legit threatening.

It increased the requirements to level up so you won't curbstomp everything in Act 3 onwards.

On that subject thievery was one of the few things Gothic 3 did right. I think it's one of the very few games where there are actual consequences for trying to pick a town clean. It's great.

The pickpocketing isn't rng, it's a stat check but you don't know how much agility you need to succeed without opening the wiki.

too stupid to figure out how to leapfrog from location to location

not gonna make it

SO MUCH FOR YOU, LOWLIFE

Jetzt hau ich dir volle Pfund auf's Maul

they really aren't, they are just more effective against some enemies and less in others

THERE HE IS

achshutushtually it was

you deserve that, lowlife
and
so much for you, filthy beast

a fucking robe

provides protection almost equal to a full paladin plate

what were they thinking?

It looks cool. That's it. Simple and effective thinking process. The best.

Silbach...second home...

Doesn't dex mostly just affect range weapon accuracy and damage? How do melee fighters benefit from it? Does it do anything else?

I'll never understand why more RPGs don't approach armor the way Gothic did. Every upgrade was an event, even those minor sets you could buy without story progression.

smart kid!

slow speed leaves you open to attacks more often

you attack less frequently and the extra damage isn't worth it most of the time

worse moveset compared to one handers until you reach master level, even then it's kind of bad

slightly better range doesn't matter, some high tier one handers have similar range to that of two handers

At least you can hit strafing human enemies more easily.

because focus testing says instant gratification provides higher dose of dopamine and keeps players playing. working for your big upgrade is delayed gratification most dislike.

Two handers might as well be a sign tied to your neck saying "please stun lock my glitchy cumbersome ass". It was kind of like that in Gothic 1 too. I went pure two hander and I just got constantly stunlocked a lot. I pretty much had to cheese the final boss with those piece of shit shirtless monks by abusing their AI to chase me off a cliff. I couldn't even imagine fighting those fuckers without that

Has anyone made these work in NOTR before?

Since the thread is going nice and steady, share your childhood Gothic stories:

playing Gothic for the first time

leave the Old Camp for the first time, not long after arriving

exit through the stone gate and head to Pacho

he tells me not to go there, because that's where the orcs are

go back and turn around the corner, to the area where the cave with Nek the dead guard is

suddenly an Orc (never seen one before) falls down from the cliff above and dies screaming

ohfug.ogg

run back to the camp

not leave it for a few IRL days, completing every quest I can there, before finally mustering the courage to leave the town again

Doesn't dex mostly just affect range weapon accuracy and damage?

Only damage.

How do melee fighters benefit from it?

You can equip master sword earlier, investing in dex and equipping master sword will outpace investing in strength and using whatever else.

Does it do anything else?

Lowers chance of lockpicks breaking and allows you to pickpocket more people, crossbow is still useful for melee characters and it helps with that. Also at 90 dex you'll get acrobatics.

Same shit with the shirtless monks at the end of Gothic 1. Where their armor was so thick that a lot of your attacks can't penetrate even after cleaning the whole map and getting the best sword in game. Or how about how orc wolves seem to have thicker armor than most creatures in the game. This shit never made any sense

I get no dopamine from diablo/borderlands loot. Which is a shame, nioh is my favorite ARPG but I try to interact with the gear as little as possible.

the only thing I remember was renting G2 for the weekend when I was about 12 and barely managing to get inside Khorinis lmao