What went wrong?

And then Torn Banner abandoned chiv 2 for a zombie game.

These games just inherently demand a great ping so huge chunks of the market are cut out from the start.

man Chiv 2 is so fun

i've been leveling archer with javelin, when i run out i run the axe

putting any trust on those pieces of shit in the first place

Why isn't anyone making a game like this but with Fantasy races that each play differently in some way?

Humans are all around balance and can make use of most weapons.

Orcs have more health than others, so they can absorb more damage, but they're slower and also upon death, have an increased respawn timer than any of the other classes to incentivize not using them as often if you want to play more throughout the match. They also mainly just make use of heavy bludgeoning weapons and not the usual agile stuff like swords.

Elves have less health but mainly move around faster than others. They also mainly just use lighter weapons like rapiers or daggers.

These threads always go the same way, just start arguing someone already

It was actually pandering to tranny furfags who whined about mean words in chat

I decided to replay this game back in 2024 when it went free to get for a short while cause I knew it would have new players now and should be a bit more fun to play... What the fuck happened to it as a whole?

It plays absolutely nothing like it used to back during launch. And on top of that, what the fuck is up with all those shitty new maps they put out? There's no coherence in their design. You don't even know what you're doing or where you're heading half the time, it just feels like chaos, both of gameplay level, and visually, it just feels like noise. I kept finding myself just navigating through the levels on autopilot as if I wasn't even there or focusing on what I was doing due to how disconnected everything felt.

didn't they randomly add black characters?

Fucking Torn Banner

Dev team was run by a drug addicted german schizo or something

Bigger playercount in a match and objective focused gamemodes, then add sweats natural enemy - chaos and randomness. Large groups of people are already chaotic, then add options like catapults with massive AoE, instant kill traps for defenders, make arrow spam viable (or equivalent of those in a non-medieval game) and any other "low skill" option that lets first time players kill a 10,000h veteran. Then the problem is threading the needle between too much randomness eliminating any skill ceiling and not enough randomness to deter the sweats. The optimal goal is a game where good players will end up at the top of the leaderboard consistently, bad players will still have fun and the worst kind of meta following slave will get mad and quit because he's not interested in a game where someone with less hours labbing combos has any chance to beat him and/or he can't win the match by himself
I'm not saying this will result in a good game, but it will filter the metafags

and women, don't forget.

maybe if they fixed the fucking player models contorting their spines faggots who abuse it would actually have to git gud or leave.

It started as a game as a fun game and regressed until it went into hospice as a wannabe fighting game where you would get screeched at if you so much as went into a match with a bow and where exploits that actively made the game significantly worse were soft approved as tech.
A game that set out to be a better Chivalry that completely avoided its failings unironically ended up just becoming a version of Chivalry that merely contracted HIV instead of full-blown AIDS.

BRO IT'S GONNA BLOW FOR HONOR'S WATER

flops

Absolutely no one has or ever will care about For Honor.

Chivalry 2 is infested with retarded griefing faggots who usually play in groups of 2~4 in their retarded Discords and do nothing but disrupt entire matches by either filling up the Engineer slots and barricading up spawn points or objectives for their own team, or just picking the most cunty classes than can be abused for friendly fire like the ones that have firebombs and the fucking devs do nothing to get rid of them because they stopped caring about the game altogether, meaning, they don't even moderate it.

Be real lol. It's still popular today and still better than Bordau or Shit 2

There isn't any overlap between playerbases. For Honor players trying to inject themselves into communities that don't even view them as a factor as some kind of hated rival has been one of their most consistent, annoying, and embarrassing traits.

newfag doesn't know about the mordhau shill who would post "MORDHAU IS GONNA BLOW FOR HONOR WATERS" in every thread

are you making fun of an ESL or being one?

Career Anon Babble shitposter represents an entire community

I had no doubt in my mind this is the way you were going to go. Years later and it's the same shit again and again and again. On some level, it's comforting to know that things never change.

really glad i never installed for honor, because of posts like this

What zombie game?

use your brain
i'm simply reminiscing of a fun back and forth between 2 games fanbases, since it would end up with people from both sides making fun of him while discussing both games
should've added a /s after my post, apparently 90% of this website can't recognize an ironic/fun post anymore

I played the game for months, hundreds of hours since launch so I think I can reasonably tell you.

Devs want to make a melee game without the jankyness of Chivalry

Game comes out and its good but has problems

Still has broken animations, drags and accels they just don't look quite as disgusting as Chiv

Sweaty players with thousands of hours of legacy skill quickly realize entire combat mechanics like Chambering are suboptimal in favor of other options

High level combat essential devolves into Rock Paper Scissors where you trade initiative and gamble swing to try and get lucky

MEANWHILE the lead dev is a sperg named Crush

Crush wants the game to be a hyper competitive E-Sport and dickrides top players and former Chivalry pros

Except Crush is mediocre at the game so he regularly challenges pros and loses 10 - 1

So instead of focusing on adding more content and general balance Crush makes the dev team focus all re-balancing around duels because that's what pros do

Sweaty top players dominate all game modes because there is no sort of ranking system and this problem snowballs over time because the devs pander to top players only

They eventually realized this was a retarded way to devlope the game and changed but by that point it was too late and the game was lucky to break 2500 players a week, now its even less when at peak it was 60k which dropped in half in a month for the first couple months.

No More Room in Hell 2

Balance issues like horses with their respective counter not working, lack of content, normalfags cried about toxicity and they caved in, tryhards immediately min/maxing and demanding nerfs of anything that stood their sweat playstyle in the way.

lmao what? Torn banner is No More Room in Hell's dev?
Wew wow.

lack of cohesion in the overall design. they made all the maps giant at first so they could pull triple duty as huge battle royale maps, large invasion maps, and tiny duel maps. as a result the maps lack direction and feel totally static - you don't siege any of the castles because the walls are already breached and the ladders are already in place.
outside of the duel meta, the mechanics really aren't a problem. 99% of the players whining about sweats are just terrible at videogames and refuse to learn how a fighting system works. you only see the actual exploitative bullshit if you're for some reason retarded enough to engage with them in the ranked duelling mode. you can tell someone is absolutely terrible at this game when they cry about 'ballerinas' and 'spin to win' because those features have been impossible since launch - it nerfs your damage if you turn too much during a swing. the only actual problem is that dragging is too powerful when combined with a handful of meta weapons - like the zweihander. it's only a problem though, if again, you're too garbage at videogames just to kick the faggot in the groin and call his bluff when he tries to drag because the game is essential just high-speed rock-paper-scissors.
chivalry had a fantastic atmosphere and map design which was open enough to allow for a chaotic battlefield but focused enough to follow for actual attack-defense teamwork and they knew that having chokepoints wasn't always a bad thing because when you funnel the players together the battlefield feels more jam-packed and chaotic. the two factions were distinctly good and evil and it made for a fun dynamic. mordhau doesn't really have that personality. the best it has is its numerous irreverent voice options which give the game a TF2-esque humour, but the world it builds is totally flat and insincere and half-assed.

They aren't the Devs, they're the publishers but basically purchased the rights to the franchise from the former Devs or something like that, and, instead of putting the game out as it was Originally, they forced them to REMAKE THE WHOLE FUCKING THING IN UNREAL ENGINE FROM SCRATCH instead of keeping it on the previous engine they were using in something like, under 2 years or so, when the previous game was worked on for like 4~6 years at that time I believe and was basically already finished and ready to ship.

"don't be a cunt" is a golden rule for dev-run servers, not some betrayal
play nice with the tranny furfags or cry about it in a community server that's more amenable, nobody cares about your recital of the fourteen words in official servers

Crush is and always was a huge faggot

I don't like the fact it let you just 100% customize your entire character to whatever you wanted. It's cool at first but soon you realize it kind of just seems to make everything feel disjointed as fuck when there's no clear cohesion in armor design between teams and the only identifying this is the colors.

At least Chivalry feels more focused with the option for specific classes that each have their own specific types of armor that are limited to fewer cosmetics tied to that specific class.

I remember this. People complained that accels and drags are unrealistic but the devs told them to fuck off. The last time I played the optimal playstyle was in third person looking randomly around and then do a mix of faints, accel and drags. I recall they nerfed the crap out of shields at this point otherwise it wouldn't have worked.

Settle down tranny, your game is dead

I used to play all the time roleplaying as Doctor Doom and the only weapon I'd use was the Maul. It was so fucking janky how strong dragging was with it, the go to combo was to drag stab their head which always hit late as fuck and made no sense because you were just tapping their head with the end of the hurtbox followed up by a crouch jumping spinning accel upper swing because you quickly tap their chin and make their head explode.

so what are the torn banner devs doing if they aren't working on chiv 2 anymore
mirage 2?

maybe nobody wants to play with you because you're a cunt

bro you just suck

stops hammer mid-air until your parry runs out then one-taps you instantly

gets full health because of pub-stomping perk

The game peaked the first three months when it was all still new. Having a fist fighting ring with some bard trying to play a tune while in the background people TK the guy on the catapult after he killed 5 people with 4 of them being on his own team. My Peter Pan build was a peasant loaded with three pans and then going around throwing pans at people turning into a pan duel while spamming crappy voice lines.

Mirage was a great game that just never caught on, I don't know if you remember but it launched so pooly they didn't even break 1000 players and was down to less than 50 within 3 months, out of desperation Torn Banner made the game free for 24 hours in Sept 2017 and the game spiked to 40000+ players but quickly died afterwards which was a shame because the combat was a lot of fun and it had great map design and atmosphere, truly unique game.

no nigga, they're working on no more room in hell 2 cause it released unfinished and janky as fuck in early access. the entire playerbase for it which was like 22k on launch or so i think completely died and it only averages around 800 players at peak so they probably might just drop it at some point and start working on chivalry 3 cause they sort of concluded the story for chiv2 in the final update. and i mean, sort of, because they left it on a retarded cliffhanger, argon 2 fights malric, but we're not told yet who won the fight 'cannonically' but it's likely that argon did, and the sandmonkey faction they introduced doesn't lead the lore anywhere, so it's very likely that the third game will just focus around Agatha fighting off Tenosia with Masons just being some kind of washed up nobodies who at best will be rebels or vagabonds or whatever trying to hold onto their crumbling power now that Malric is dead.

No it's more like your game is dead, kek

Tenosia was a mistake. Shit voicelines and no interesting anything.
If there's a Chiv3 I hope it'll just be Agatha vs Mason again.
Malric is a dude.

What went wrong?

I don't know. I played it a lot and then burned myslf out. The game was fun when i last played it.

I downloaded so many midis, even downloaded some converting editing program people made for LOTR:O to make my midis better just to play with Lutebot just to roleplay as people were dueling. All the meme builds were the great, saw so many Goku's with the quarterstaff or Chad with the green pants who just wanted to fist fight. First couple months were really special.

there's a move where you can stab above someone's head and if you time it right and angle it the right way it will count as a headshot
you can also slow your strike way the fuck down by dragging your mouse, which mean you hit the guy super slow but still for full damage
this is the sort of retarded fag shit that passes for medieval combat and gets you piled on discord by the sweaty getgud bros who don't see any issues with that looney toon shit but will shit on Chiv 1's reverse overheads without understanding why this sort of shit is just as bad

just put out some great tight maps, good memorable objectives like instead of getting bogged in open world shit

/tnread

I tried this and liked for honor more. Simple as. This game was annoying to play

meta retard find out animation exploit

dev pretends "its alwayas meant to exist" and suck the meta retards cocks willingly

Completly ruin anything including shields that isnt a zweihander

Completly ruin hordes

Never fix any of the maps

all new maps are absolute utter shit

completly abandon community-made mods and maps... because reason?

go back to your promise and release overpriced DLC-slop

Jeez I wonder what happened OP. Maybe if the devs werent such incompetent cucks I would still play it

The game is great and sold beyond their wildest expectations. Even now, just looking up its 24-hour peak it's sitting at over 1k players, which is shocking. It had the potential to be a juggernaut but they refused to expand their dev team and churn out content following the huge release, so instead the game settled down into regular indie MP game territory. I'm sure they're still selling enough copies to make bank off of it, if for no other reason than because the first-person slasher genre is basically empty besides this and Chiv.

If I could go back in time I'd smack them across the back of the head and tell them that they've got every big streamer on every platform playing their game and they need to scale up their fucking operation if they want to keep their attention, but I guess that wasn't the direction they wanted to go. Still the best example of the genre, though. I hope more developers dip their toes into making these kinds of games.

I really think the skill ceiling was just too high. When you have people who can dodge any attack like Neo, it's going to stop new players from ever getting into the game
also, Chiv 2 came out with cross play and captured the casual audience

It was so fun at launch but I remember it taking forever for new content. I dropped the game before anything new even showed up, and I played it a lot .

It's weird to me that a game with literally no story has some of the most in-depth character customization I've ever seen. There's like 20 different slots for armor pieces, and about a billion armor pieces altogether. Face sliders, body sliders. Most characters you can't even see their face.

Chiv 2's customization pales in comparison other than the voices

Does anyone remember the Star Wars mod and does anyone still play it?

Nothing, it's actually perfect for what it set out to do because it's literally impossible to make a pvp melee slasher without the stuff everybody complains about.

thread dies

instantly same-sounding faggot start choking on the devs cocks desperately trying to revive the thread

They did say that they made the game for comp chiv players

No one will remember this shit as soon as Half Sword gets multiplayer.

That just sounds like Chiv 2 but yet here we are

That is kind of what Ad Mortem and Fiefdom are going for, while it's not Orcs and Elves stuff it's still more fantasy like than mord and they're gonna be class orientated

More than that, they literally are comp chiv players. The whole premise of the game was that it was a spiritual successor to Chivalry made by competitive players. The lead dev would hop on stream occasionally and absolutely wreck people on duel servers.

I am praying but the way I see people talking is that multiplayer is an unlikely thing for halfsword due to resource intensity.

claims to be a veteran player but gets a ton wrong

chambering is not suboptimal. no one with a brain gambles. crush wasn't the lead dev. crush quit because no one listened to him.

that's interesting considering that customization is what a lot of people love about Mordhau. Personally I enjoy it but to each their own ig

maybe not anymore but for a long time it was just a blatant waste of stamina when doding spacing and block were all more efficient and yes you gamble all the time once you know who you're fighting because it becmes a contrived rock paper scissors of

"i know theyre gonna play rock and its their turn but im gonna take a risk and play scissors early before they can get their rock out"

I think that aspect of the game where everyone's doing silly shit is much more common now that the game is "dead". If you play now you know pretty much everyone in your region so a lot of the time you just fuck with eachother. Someone said that Mord now is just like a local dive bar where you go to just get drunk and fuck around with the regulars

Anyways any faggots here playing US west?

let it go anon

I played the stars wars mod and sadly no one still plays it
The Mordhau modding scene was actually some of the most fun I've ever had in any video game ever, especially the horde mods

Sorry nigger I was late to the once a year mord thread and had to get my 4000 cents in

Even good players don't know that chambers with ftp are prime drag counters because it gives you a free hit and looks cool as fuck. Though it all depends on opponent and yeah it will ruin your stam if you play it wrong. Gambling tho is never good for anyone if gambling to you means taking on full risk, if you can ftp out of it then to me that's not a gamble

they could not keep up with expectations and had alot of bad executions like ranked being complete shit compared to how servers/community run dueling and 5v5. they also didnt expand the game a whole lot besides drips of content.

its still a gamble even if you know the odds are in your favor bro

Nothing. It was fun while it lasted.

Terrible map design, and the devs chasing esports instead of fun
ALSO NERFING ENGINEERS WITH LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PATCH HAVING A NEW NERF FOR BUILDCHADS (which ties in to them chasing esports instead of fun)

I always play on the European servers. Way more people there.

Yes I play on US west whenever I play which isnt often anymore

Lucky you that your gay country has castles and shit

Esports

With their rampant red parries and awful ghost swings? The fucking clowns

Dread was fun while it lasted.
If you can get a friend or two together I think there is still 1 server in the EU. NA chads are out of luck though.

rampant red parries

I mean red parries are technically your fault for not having a fiber optic dedicated line to the server host

It was an extraction mode with a dungeon that randomly generated every time the match ended. Match ended either when someone escapes or after 30 minutes.

Fantasy settings, merchants, magic items, loads of new perks, PvPvE with lots of enemy variety and minibosses, platforming and secrets around the dungeon

Will just post a few webms from my fun playing it

tfw nothing like Mordhau / Chivalry but single player

Me as the twink elf archer.
Unlike extraction shooters where everyone kills eachother on sight, it was very common for people to team up in Dread when it was active.
Anybody I work together with in these webms were just randoms I ran into

This had a good run and I preferred the combat to chiv 2. Chiv 2 had better map and objectives thoughbeit.

Torn Benis has always been shit and the only reason chiv 2 exists is because they were too supid and lazy to fix chiv 1.

They invested too much into horde mode which nobody plays instead of new/good invasion maps. The big problem killing it right now are the excessive bards/friendlies who don't even fight or troll around doing fuck all.

Nobody wants to play with furfags, anyone who isn't chat banned still makes fun of you in chat and rightfully so. They're a laughing stock no matter how good or sweaty their fursuit gets. They autoban "nigger" but they let fags like you fag up chat with your grooming routines. I feel like I need a Simparica Trio and some ivermectin everytime I get done playing with you fucks.

I am instantly suspicious of anybody that talks about how "easy" it is to get chat banned, regardless of game. Stay mentally trapped in 2008 fighting the furfags while you get your head smashed by a patchie with a maul that fucking farts on you after you're dead.

I am instantly suspicious of anybody that talks about how "easy" it is to get chat banned, regardless of game

You say "nigger" and it auto bans you. No I'm not sorry. Imagine being suspicious of free speech, do you live in one of those europoor countries or some shit?

Stay mentally trapped in 2008 fighting the furfags

It must suck not having new people to groom in your shitty fandom, it must get old hat telling the same group of level 200 furfags how many dicks you took up your smelly fursuit this week.

while you get your head smashed by a patchie with a maul that fucking farts on you after you're dead.

fun fact: Fists beats maul. In your language "paws beats maul". You probably don't believe me though because all you do is rely on twirls and feints to 1 hit all the level 20's who don't know how to spam emotes that look like attacks.

It must suck not having new people to groom in your shitty fandom

these are pretty big words from the guy using the same punching bag for twenty years and thinks they're still relevant

I only player Chiv 2 and crave Medieval PvE combats (No, Vermintinde 2 sucks ass), Should i try Mordhau?

these are pretty big words from the guy using the same punching bag
Why would I not? They don't learn? They keep being the internets fucking bitch, even trannies and bronies couldn't manage to buff their permanently tarnished image. The last thing I heard about these clowns is that they had a melty about taking their litter boxes out of 15 minute city highschools in Texas.
It's so sad, the sheer irony that all you fags had to do was like anthros and you couldn't even do that right.

There's a horde mode but I don't know how long that's going to keep your attention. Mordhau's primarily a PvP game. If you like Chiv, though, this is literally the only other game like it so there's that. Maybe wishlist it and grab it when it's five bucks or something.

Horde mode has no replay value, modded or not. And the only other modded PvE game mode is dead.

I tried it once the UI was ugly
Good concept and even better controls locked behind some failed artist design. God, Ubisoft was such a fucking huge mistake taking video game hints from EA.