Now that the dust has settled what went so wrong with Skyrim?

Now that the dust has settled what went so wrong with Skyrim?

Dragonborn burps the Hero of Kvatch would be turned to dust
DB>HoK

you're a zoomer
t. zoomer

HoV turns into sheogorath thoughever

Dragonborn is still more powerful, he killed Alduin the being responsible for ending reality
Alduin>Fake Sheogorath

Too heavy focus on shit nobody cares about like interesting geography, points of interest, atmosphere, themes, diversity of dungeons, hand placed stuff, gay shit like that. Not enough le funny/quirky quest or something

It was the start of Bethesda trying to safely copy a formula rather than trying new shit.

oblivion supposed to have annoying 1 way dungeons

almost every dungeon loops back, the secret door just sometimes isn't literally next to the entrance

some you can even find from the front by exploring, circumventing the dungeon to the boss/quest target

you zoomerboomer fags lied.

interesting geography, points of interest, atmosphere, themes, diversity of dungeons, hand placed stuff

I can only hope Bethesda bring up more diverse handcrafted randomly generated draugr dungeons for TES 6

*Grabs him by the throat, steals his voice, builds contraption to force him to hear himself until his brain melts*
Nothing personnel.....

todd releases oblivion again thus giving the masses a perspective of what skyrim took away

ESVI is going to take even more stuff away and now it will be very obvious

What is this strategy called?

he killed Alduin the being responsible for ending reality

More like delayed Alduin, who also is only capable of ending mundus.

Nothing. It was critically and commercially the best Elder Scrolls game.

I'm the Hero of Kva-

FUS RO DAH!

ragdolls off a mountain

stfu you type 1 and type 2 woketard

Skyrim was just a Game of Thrones tie-in game that had to be reworked when negotiations between Bethesda and GRRM fell through.

The kidnappers have been sending you the same finger for the past 14 years

Your friend is obviously still with you, they don't have him

They start sending you duplicates of different fingers

Some kind of acid trip

mfw every time somebody mentions commercial success

We already know who'd win. It's
Oblivion > Skyrim > Morrowind

drinks some potions mid-flight, getting +8675309 to agi

safely lands, jumps back while drinking some more potions, getting +8675309 to str

pulverisers the dragonborn in one punch

same thing as oblivion
hp bloatslop

Only soulless faggots hate on Mcjesus

Did the hero of kvatch really become Sheogorath or did he just hold his daedric throne until Jyggalag turned back into Sheo?

needs a whole squad to beat up a retarded wyvern

Meanwhile the HoK 1v1'd a daedric prince so strong he required every other daedric prince ganking him to just weaken him

Lore Dragonborn > Sheogorath Hero of Kvatch > Spacefarer > Last Dragonborn > Nerevarine > Hero of Kvatch > Sole Survivor > The Courier > Lone Wanderer

You have to go beyond Skyrim, Bethesda/Todd game design is horrible to begin with.

On a fundamental level they aim for "absolute freedom" so the player is "never frustrated", but as a result the player do not feel any involvement for anything they do. It can be seen in how they want players to be able to do every single quests, killing any form of decision-making or consequences

Ignoring all technical aspect:
- they use level scaling and generate enemies regardless of context or progression, with retarded result.
- they want quantity over quality, resulting in dozens of dungeons made of the same elements, made by subcontractors.
- players are expected to be warrior mage stealth archer, no specialization, no depth in gameplay, make it look cool by inserting automated finish from time to time.
- they want to pretend they have plenty of content like making potions or armor, and they want to oversell it as more than a minigame. So they make it into grindfest so no one finish them too easily.

I can't help but agree with most of this pic.

Skyrim has been released seven times as distinct versions, across nine different platforms.

I wonder why it had more copies sold than the games with 2 or 3 release

The Dragonborn has inherent super powers, the existence and nature of which would be likely unknown by someone not living in Skyrim.
I haven't played Oblivion but, in Skyrim, the MC quite literally breaks the canonical timeline meant for the mortal world by postponing the end of this world and killing a dragon whose existence is analogous to the existence of time itself. He does this by not just traveling in time, but traveling between the living and afterlife worlds. That's quite a high bar to match.

Reminder- Skyrim belongs to the NORDS

BURGER N/KE

Officially in canon the Hero of Kvatch becomes Sheogorath. SHEO in Skyrim even comments on it.

Skyrim belongs to the

ORCS

female protag becoming male

trans protag

Daedric princes don't have genders, hence why even the female presenting one's are still called princes, and some like boethia change their appearance.

bending over backwards this hard

You mean sexes. Otherwise, go on the wiki and change Sheogorath's gender to none.

You "Mantle" Sheogorath. In essence, Sheo doesn't go under that much alteration. You undergo a form of Apotheosis and therefore, your mortal form is meaningless and shed at the moment of your rise.

Considering some feats it's actually pretty low. Some of the shit Pelinal or Reman pulled is crazier.

Mantling doesn't work that way. The HoV doesn't become them or replace them, they just are.

You mean sexes.

Same thing, tranny.

Coming from the same person to say Daedric princes don't have genders.

That's not canon

YES- YES- KILL ME END MY SUFFER- AGAIN
WOOOOOOOOOAH YES STRIK-STRIK-STRIK- KILL ME END MY SUFFERI- AGAIN AGAI- GOOD PEOPLE. YOU HAVE JUST WITNESSED THE IMPOSSIBLE

becomes unstoppable anyway

gets bullied by guards at the endgame for a 5 gold trespassing bounty

gets bullied by minotaurs and ogres the same way goblins bullied him at the start of the game

Not the same Anon, but he's right they don't have genders, which is the same as sexes because gender is what your sex is. It's interchangeable it's synonymous. "Gender identity" is tranny bullshit.

Damn, they made orcs sexy in the remake?

Playing Oblivion remaster just makes me miss modded Skyrim desu

NTA

Cope and learn when to shut the fuck up.

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Morrowincels? Explain?

Having a 200 year time skip was a mistake.

Someone is upset at being told YWNBAW...

You mean sexes.

Both are mortal contrivances.

Low cut shirt

Leather corset

Panties

Literal skirt

Look at this horny slut.

They prepared a detailed response, but unfortunately when they clicked 'post' it rolled a miss.

I always thought arena garments looked strangely slutty, regardless of who was wearing them.

The image is incorrect. The dragonborn is canonically argonian, obviously. I trust I don't need to explain how dragons are big lizards.

I've no problem with your kind, Orc. But that stronghold they've got in the southeast? Narzulbur? It's an affront to my people.

That's why they were always my low level early game armor of choice.

It's not a game for everyone, and that's a good thing. There is an enormous intellectual gap between being able to enjoy a game that tells you to follow a waypoint, and a game that tells you to find a cave called Assuminibisubi that's sitting somewhere southwest of a town you haven't been to, by taking the road and choosing the right path once you reach the second fork in the road, a wooden door between two large rocks, facing north.

It's a legit difficult game if you play it without a guide or friends. Lots of Xbots bought it and thought it was outright broken and unplayable because they couldn't shoot anything and melee didn't always connect.

FPBP

Dragons aren't lizards, they are warm blooded for example.

Kek

morrowcucks cope and pretend their game requires a high IQ

reminder that the Vestige clears both

become basically a god of madness

your godly powers are changing the weather in your domain and that's it

welp

melee didn't always connect.

the problem is they had zero feedback
in old RPGs and the older elserscrolls you swing an axe at a guy and you'll see "fucknut dodges/blocks the attack!" in the combat log or in text near them
in morrowind you put a sword through a guys face and he doesn't react in any way

HOK with 100% physical and magic reflect and absorb

lol
lmao even

If they remake Morrowind I fully expect them to make attack rolls into toggle

And feather fall, absurdly high agi, and probably cranked on 30 bottles of skooma daily

The Agent (of Daggerfall fame) would solo the other protagonists but you're all not ready for this trvke.

Nerevarine: Argonian

Dragonborn: Altmer

What would be the HoK and the agent? What should the protag of TES 6 be?

it took a rereleases of oblivion for normies to finally realize skyrim is shit

I hate all of you

Enough bitching about those two. What do you think the power level of the ES6 protag is going to be and what threat will they be taking on?

more like

it took a rerelease of oblivion to realize skyrim rocks and to start a new game

that just doesn't make any sense though

I vividly remember getting stuck outside Esberns door in the riften sewers. I never finished the game

You think? It seems obvious to me. Could you tell me what doesn't make sense to you?

Can Dragonborn even trough 100% chameleon

What are the gods anon, think about that question. Who is Sheogorath? Is he an old man with a beard? A cat who gets high? Who is Akatosh? Is he an old man, a dragon, elven ancestor, tall black man? It's all mortal contrivance, personifications of emotions and concepts. Just stories passed down by our ancestors given life by belief.

Chameleon doesn't exist in Skyrim, you only have invisibility which pops when you do something.
Also it does have a bunch of limitation, for instance armor can only block 80% of damage at best iirc

Canonically, the Dragonborn is more powerful than the Hero of Kvatch.
Also let's be honest, the Hero of Kvatch closes oblivion gates and is a key figure in the oblivion crisis but the "hero of Kvatch" is the best fucking name they got for him? He helped that city that one time is how he goes down in history? Weak and pathetic name

Dragonborn isn't really that much better of a title, considering it's literally just a name for people who can shout naturally.
Imagine being a hero but everyone calls you a nigger.

Nerevarine wins again.

There's only been what, five dragonborn or so? With the main character of TES5 being the last one, the title of THE Dragonborn does mean a lot.

Champion of Cyrodiil is another way of calling him

The big CoC

There's only been what, five dragonborn or so?

Not counting every emperor there is

miraak

alessia

reman cyrodiil

ysmir wukfharth

hjaalti early-beard

But it should be noted every single Septim was one or else they couldn't wear the Amulet of kings.

Pretty sure it's also stated by the Gaybeards that there used to be a lot more dragonborns, but it mostly got lost over time because they ends up getting themselves killed through arrogance.

Hero of Kvatch. Savior of Bruma. Divine Crusader. Champion of Cyrodiil.

You sleep rather soundly for a homosexual

How many statues did the Dragonborn get of him in his honor? Zero? Yeah I fucking thought so.

Dragonborn = Free title he got because of his birth
Hero of Kvatch = Title he earned due to his great deeds