Is Anon Babble autism about wireless vs wired actually an issue or it is just "I'm not changing"?

Wireless mouse is objectively better now that you can get them with negligible latency. Zero cable drag means better accuracy. But I don't want to ever have to charge my mouse so I still use wired.

Zero cable drag

and there it is. Wirless fags are all DYEL weak wristed bitches who get slowed down by that oh so heavy wire!

same as others here. wired keyboard because i don't fucking move it. wireless mouse because it's easier to move around and the latency is effectively zero. cable drag or getting caught on shit is fucking annoying.

If a horse actually worked well for someone I don't see why they would change

What about headphones. Do you all wired+DAC?

heh, professional athletes are fucking DYEL losers for preferring shoes that are as light as possible to get the best results

But I don't want to ever have to charge my mouse so I still use wired.

It’s honestly not a concern. I’ve had my G Pro X super light for about 2 years ago and the battery life is pretty nuts. I’ve probably only had to charge it a handful of times.
You could probably plug it in, take a piss, come back and be good for another two months.

There are valid use cases for wireless, but if that shit is just going to be sitting at your desk why bother? Just another thing to have to keep charged for little real benefit.

I haven't charged my G502 in a month and it's sitting at 70% right now. Worst case I can still plug it in and use it wired in an emergency. I wish controller charge lasted half as long as this fucker

The actual issue is with how many wireless devices people have causing interference and how unreliable mice are these days getting doubleclicking issues in just a couple months in some cases.
Sure you can replace the switches in them, but you may be honestly better off just grabbing some shit for offices that can't really just shit itself and die because corporate entities actually have the capacity to give logitech shit

wireless mice are fine

but I will never understand the point of wireless keyboards

I don't care about having to replace batteries on shit twice a week so wired it is.

This shit pretty nice for playing shit on the couch.

wireless

batteries

We're in 2025, not 2015. 9/10 wireless mice these days have internal batteries that you recharge.

Those are shit.
Mice/Keyboards running off AAs last for months before needing to replace em.

Share your setups

I got an Artisan Hien and an original Sora V2 (got memed into it, there are better and cheaper mice now)
The only reason people prefer the OP1 8k is because of the shape. Wireless is objectively superior.

My mouse has a big G on it which I assume means it's a Logitech. Sometimes the G lights up

Those are shit.

You must live in opposite world, because it's only cheap garbage mice that still use actual batteries that you need to regularly replace.

Yep, it does sound like you got a Logitech, alright.

I'm not changing
USB cables exist, use them.

Both cheap crap and good crap use AAs, you know why?
Because Standardized Batteries.
ARE GOOD.

skypad and op1 8k. patrician.

I have broken 3 wireless mice by throwing at the wall when I get angry

I was born wired i will die wired.

I don't wanna charge shit every day that does not need charging. I already have so much shot to charge it just gets tiring.

I just switched to the Tekkusai Singularity, and it's like switching from 60hz to 144hz. I don't think I'm going back to cloth any time soon.

GPXS(Huano Blue Shell Pink Dot) + LGG Saturn Pro. I recently bought a Razer Viper V3 Pro and loved everything about it, except for the fact that my pinky + ring finger couldn't fit on the side for palm grip, so had to return it.

I'm gonna get a Fnatic x Lamzu Maya X next and hopefully my hand fits.

I don't wanna charge shit every day that does not need charging

Good wireless mice can do 100 hours per charge these days. That's like 1 hour of charging every 8 days if you actively use it 12 hours/day.

Anyone else has the mouse right on the desk without a pad? The pad got ruined and I just got used to living without it

Yeah, but mostly because it's expensive to get a custom printed mouse pad.

Why are you using palm grip? Just asking as a claw grip connoisseur.

I ordered a £70 wireless mouse a few weeks ago and I'm still looking at getting a wireless keyboard but there are so many with them either being cheap but shit hardware QC, doesn't come with UK-ISO keys, cheap but shit software, or expensive as fuck for good hardware and software. I'm not paying more than £100 for a mechanical tactile or hall effect keyboard.

wired keyboard, wireless mouse. wired mouse are too restrictive of movement

I used to play FPS on a competitive level for like 15 years with a claw/fingertip mix on 400 DPI and extremely low sens and now that I'm mid 30s my wrist just doesn't agree with that anymore, so I have to use palm grip to not get wrist pain.

It took a little while to get used to but now it's not really that different. If I did benchmarks tests with a LG in Q3, I'd say that I'm probably only like 5% less accurate now.

You literally get told its low battery hours before it dies. So hard to plug cable in and use as a normal mouse or charge wile sleeping or doing something else. Takes 1h or less. And you get 10 days of charge if not more.

no, i enjoy not having carpal tunnel

my wrist

If you were a low dpi low sens gamer youd have used the arm.

There is literally zero disadvantage to a wired mouse.

muh cable drag

either this is a total fabrication or you had a weird, fucked up mouse because there is literally no drag at all, it just glides on the desk

Wired is good, wireless is bad. There's no debate, that's just a fact. PS4 controller has less lag wireless though. Sony's fuck up, xbox1 controller is laggy regardless.

Having a 2mm thick mousepad wont change anything in regards to that since youre still horizontal

Well my mouse can be both wired and wireless with 1k polling rate. Above 1k is wireless only but I don't see the point.

Spotted the high dpi high sense wrist only gamer

yea, i just don't like charging stuff. it's just an extra bother

I don't see any point because I use a trackball, so wired is just objectively better. For gaymer nerds who want to click on heads without hurting their faggot wrists, sure, wireless makes some sense.

well yeah, you get a padded one
they look like a meme but the best mousepads i've had are those boob ones, they cradle your wrist and i just don't ever have any wrist pain whereas it was pretty bad before

I used to just have slightly sore "tennis elbow" as well but I could deal with that. The wrist pain is on a completely different level. Sometimes when I'd go to bed after a long gaming session, it would straight up be throbbing in very painful waves and prevent me from sleeping.

all these filthy casuals ITT

nobody called you here, timmy, sit down

yeah? i don't play compslop, this isn't an insult

he doesn't experience cable drag

tell me you don't play movement games without telling me. or do you use like 1800dpi with 6 camera sensitivity lol

There is literally zero disadvantage to a wired mouse.

Wired is good, wireless is bad. There's no debate

Do you mind explaining why 90% of professional players across all vidya collectively decided to switch to wireless mice?

Wireless with AAs > wireless with internal batteries
Eneloops last for weeks

why do you retards think everybody plays CS and valorant for a living?

Carpal isnt wrist pain. And carpsl is caused by having your hand horizontal or sit too low or too high above your desk. Buy a vert mouse and suck at fps games.

Maybe because the only objective (and relevant) metric is performance.

Answer my question. Why did all professional players across all games suddenly collectively decide to switch to wireless, if there's no advantage?

Or you could charge it regularly before the mouse blinks that it's low on energy like a normal person.

Yet you tried to make it seem like cable isnt an issue for anyone. When it is. Snag behind your desk when you oull it towards you is one of many issues.

i play video games to have fun
it isn't relevant to me so i don't care

Snag behind your desk when you oull it towards you is one of many issues.

never happened in my life

ahh, i mean if all you play is point and click bullshit then sure, a wired mouse will suffice

So why is having wireless a disadvantage for excel spreadsheets?

Wireless keyboard is handy if you need to move i around a lot.

i went from a deathadder to a g502 which were both wired to a basic bitch logi lift which is a wireless vertical mouse
i can't fucking notice any difference whatsoever when sitting on the desktop doing tiny movements just to check myself
i'll buy the mx vertical along with some nice wireless brown switch keyboard soon
there's near zero reason to ever bother with wired mice unless you're some turbosperg high tier compfag

it isn't relevant to me so i don't care

I accept your concession.

BASED panasonic eneloop chad. I bought these off a recommendation on the internet and I've been in love with them ever since. My gamepad stays alive for so long now. Call me a shill, I don't give a FUCK

Cus you dont play games. Leave the thread.

Or i can just plug in my wired mouse and never have to deal with that shit ever.

My g pro lasts weeks on a single charge cus i dont use the rgb slop.
Oh right you are the high dpi high sense non-gamer.

there's near zero reason to ever bother with wired mice unless you're some turbosperg high tier compfag

It's actually the opposite. Unless you're a retard behind 10 years in tech, it should come obvious to you that there is no perceptible difference between wired and wireless in terms of latency. and the mobility is a much bigger factor.

I will never go back to wired mice, fucking NEVER
it's so freeing, trust me you will never look back.
get a logitech gpro superlite wireless. Whatever the expensive version is called. Mine hasn't skipped a beat in ~4 years

or you could just use a wireless mouse and not have to worry about charging it ever

all these Logitech users

You know China has cloned those shapes in mice that are half the cost? No point in paying the retard tax.

i'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe it'll show up on the 1440p 360hz oled i'm planning to buy
overall i prefer being able to comfortably move my shit anywhere without being limited by wires than placebo myself for some barely if at all perceptible improvement

plugging cable in is such hard work when the dongle is right next to the mouse.

Spotted the lazy cow or poor fag.

Or you could use something worth a shit.
Trackball master race

Name those mice then? Regardless it isnt about the shape you monkeybrown.

Show me the one that feels like a g305 and I'll consider buying it next time I need a mouse.

I use these mice for comfort, I can't stand mice that feel like a spaceship when you're holding them.

I use wireless for the big screen and thats fine, but wired for gamingnall the qay

cant click while moving the camera to shoot enemies

No point in paying the retard tax.

GPX/GPXS became the #1 sold mice way before those chink clones existed. Mine is like 5 years old at this point, for example.

Yea I can completely understand that for controllers. It would be nice for something like the PS5, which has a comically bad battery life.
But for a mouse a I’d take a light internal battery that lasts 100+ hours/charge over replaceable batteries.

What kind of idiot are you? DO you not know how trackball work? Yes you can infact click while aiming dipshit

eloshapes.com
If you bought it near release, that's fair, otherwise you got scammed.

Wired is simply more convenient. I plug everything in and then I never need to think about it again until the buttons wear out and I need to replace it.

muh cable drag

The fucking lengths zoomers will go to just to avoid admitting they're not as good as Quake boomers. Go play in a vacuum chamber to escape that nasty air resistance that was holding you back.

I use a custom desk (sheet of plywood screwed to a steel frame I salvaged from a free scrap desk) with a hole cut in it for the mousepad so the surface is flush with the rest of the desk.

wire drag is just irritating. I never noticed it til I tried wireless just to try it. Plugged in my wired mouse later and was like UGH, DISGUSTING WHAT THE FUCK it was like having a hair in your mouth or something. I can still do everything fine with a hair in my mouth but I'd prefer not to

Wired is simply more convenient

until you want to do more than just sitting at a desk with your tower close by

Huh. That's actually pretty cool

The fucking lengths zoomers will go to just to avoid admitting they're not as good as Quake boomers

All the Quake boomers, myself included, are on wireless mice now, lil buddy.

If your fingers are on the ball how do you click

I don't play fps so the realistically unnoticeable 2.4ghz latency isn't even an issue to me in the first place. I have the super light

DUMBASSES AND PLEBS!
You use a fucking WIRED KEYBOARD with a USB hub built in and daisy chain your WIRED MOUSE/TRACKBALL off of that.
Thusly you can bunch and hide your wires making your desktop tidy while avoiding all the downsides of wireless bullshit.
GODDAMN WHY AM I EXPLAINING THIS TO IDIOTS? DO YOU FUCKTARDS BUY YOUR PC ACCESSORIES AT FUCKING WAL-MART???

Thanks for the appreciation. It hurts to see people get scammed by big brands like Logishit.

Wired doesn't bother me but I'll probably get a wireless when I need a new one but this fucking thing refuses to break. I can't even remember when I bought it

We know youre samefagging high dpi high sense wristlet. No need to continue.

Set you dpi to 800.
Set your ingame sens in cs2 to 1 or was it 0.5 idr.
Tell me the cable doesnt affect you in any way.

Retarded nigger. Use a rechargeable mouse or listen to notifications i stick 1 battery in my 50$ wireless mouse once every 3 months and use my pc 8h a day, 16 on weekends and this has never happened

100% this wireless mouse or nothing, cut the cord it's pointless now a days

The fucking lengths zoomers will go to just to avoid admitting they're not as good as Quake boomers.

The OG Quake boomer Rocket Jump Ninja uses wireless mice.

With your thumb you dumb fucker! or get a thumb ball and click with your fingers.
Or realize your have multiple fingers and only need one or 2 for the fucking ball.
JESUS CHRIST YOUR SO STUPID IT LITERALLY HURTS!

Me personally I like Trackball mice a lot.

You're*

The goddamned buttons are on the side where your thumb rests you ignorant ass monkey!

clicking with a thumb

Not as fast or precise as your index

he has a gnome infestation

bro just call the exterminator

Is this bait? I have a friend who's consistsntly higher rank on shooters with a trackball, there's been a few trackball esports pros too

wire bad because some "pro" gamers said so

Don't care. I will continue to use my wired mouse.

but "pros" are the ones that placebo themselves into wired
the downside of wired is being limited by wire
the downside of wireless is that it has to become wired occassionally

Gnome

Couldn't be me having this issue
Here's the thing, there's a LOT of scamming going on in the eSports scene.
Wireless mice not being as unreliable as some of the very first IR driven ones from the early 2000s is not the case.
It's not the case where they're trying to scam people into buying high refresh rate monitors because it gives you le aimbotz super MLG skillz
It's just that wireless mice are functional and acceptable in performance.

Ok whats his name and what game

New Vegas is the closest I can come to CS2 of my installed games

They probably don't care that much, they use what someone is paying them to use

So try that where you have a 180 turn in a 25cm distance

they use what someone is paying them to use

So 90% of professional players across all video games are paid off to shill wireless mice and no one has ever said anything about it? Is that the theory you are going with?

400 DPI

800 DPI

Switch to 3200 and lower your sensitivity to fit your cm/360 and see the world of difference it makes. The ignorance on this subject is astounding.

If you want to see a complete list you can find it here

logitechg.com/en-us/esports.html

Are 4chinners really stooping to flamewars about wired vs wireless shit? Is it that you guys genuinely have nothing else to talk about or are you so insufferable that you need to having pissing matches over the most pettiest ways possible?
Either way I guess I use wireless but I plug it in to charge when I am going to bed or going to work. I could just leave both plugged in and just use them as traditional mouse and keyboard if I wanted to so it doesn't really matter.

no one has ever said anything about it

This is a known fact in various communities, it's just you who is ignorant of it.

I turned around in-game without a problem

Are you under the impression that Logitech are the only ones who make wireless mice?

prosettings.net/

you call a single thread a month talking about it a flamewar?
are you upset that people aren't talking about it in corpo hr speak?

This is a known fact in various communitie

Show me a single piece of evidence to back up this claim.

I don't hate wireless
I just hate Bluetooth
Just give me a fucking dongle for PC usage

no

You havent actually done it

No, this is the equivalent of thinking you need to buy the same sponsored shoes of soccer players in order to kick a ball around as a hobby

So buy one with a 2.4g dongle?

this is the equivalent of thinking you need to buy the same sponsored shoes of soccer players in order to kick a ball around as a hobby

No, it's not. We are talking about wireless mice vs wired mice. We are not talking about brands.

get the fuck off my board

Is the same autism for mechanical keyboards and oled monitors, faggy gamer tribalism

I don't give a shit about latency, I'm just not going to buy a mouse that needs fresh AAAs every week. I was done with that shit when I still had a GBA.

We're talking about what professionals are using. You don't need to use the same shoes a professional athlete is using in order to play a sport and you don't need to use the same mouse a professional Counter-Strike player is using in order to have fun in a video game

every week

a single aa will last you several months you strawmanning schizo

The most important thing I need in a mouse is silent clicks. I don't understand how people can put up with the sound.

By not having misophonia (common symptom of being autistic)

fresh AAAs every week

Brother we are not talking about $5 office mice from 2008.
A decent modern rechargeable mouse can go weeks or even months without needing a charge.

You know speaking of that's something pretty fucking annoying about the current state of controllers

We have reliable, standardized rechargable batteries that are easy to replace

Literally only the WORST first party controller uses AAs these days.

Everything else is nonstandardized lithium pack crap which will render most controllers e-waste in a few years

Like fuck
I should NOT be able to say a Wiimote and a fucking nunchuck from 2000 fucking 5 are more reliable as a controller than some shit that released for a current gen console and was manufactured like a month ago.

I'd rather have something corded than take batteries

most of these controllers still work when plugged in even if you have a completely dead battery. you're likely to have a completely dead analogue stick before the batteries run out of charge cycles anyways.
not defending it but changing the battery isn't THAT hard either if you have an ounce of tinkering ability.
i just use rechargable batteries and i have enough of them to always be cycling fresh ones in while the used ones can charge and then be added to the cache. bought a mouse that uses standard AA/AAA batteries just for this because i can't be fucked plugging in my mouse to charge it when a battery swap takes 5 seconds.

pay double price for a modicum of convenience

literally why

In what bizarro reality is there a price difference? We're not talking about office mice, anon.

but changing the battery isn't THAT hard either if you have an ounce of tinkering ability.

You're forgetting the issue that Lithium battery packs aren't standardized.
Like, the Wii U pro controller would be impossible to find batteries for if it didn't use a 3DS battery, and that is a fairly good controller.

pay double price

maybe you shouldn't accidentally add several packs of condoms for your boyfriend before checking out

I've never once thought: 'Man, this cable is the worst. There's gotta be a better way!', so maybe I'll get one, maybe I won't. Personally I'd be more willing to test whether a trackball makes a difference or not.

Zoomies have to charge their mice every two days for it to work kek.

Razer Basilisk V3 35K

$80

Razer Basilisk V3 Pro 35K

$160

Endgame Gear OP1 8K

$75

Endgame Gear OP1w 4K

$120

dox your friends

Are you new here I owe you no proof nor do I require your validation. Keep shootint HRT into your arm maybe you'll climb out of bronze with your 800$ superlight mouse this season Anon

You don't need to use the same shoes a professional athlete is using in order to play a sport

You don't need the same exact shoes, but it definitely helps to wear cleats for sports that are played on grass, compared to wearing normal shoes. That's the actual analogy of what we are discussing.

as someone that has opened tons of consumer electronics, the batteries are more standardized than you think.
they all use the same 30 cent charge controller board stuck to a battery pack of differing capacity. some of the connectors on the batteries are different sizes physically but you can just cut the connector off and solder it directly to the board if you have to. you just need to make sure you're matching the voltage output when replacing a battery with a different one and most of them are 3.6v anyways so even if you don't think you'll get the right one most of the time.

Or,
And here me out here.

Still a bad argument. A pair of leather boots are not made to play sports with, they would be really bad to use for that purpose. A normal wired gaming mouse is made to play video games with and works perfectly fine. Plenty of people who are good at video games and who are having fun playing video games have been using wired mice in the past and are still using them. Literally no athlete is playing with anything other than shoes designed to play sports with

i'm not defending it, just adapting to reality.
the companies know internal batteries means more guaranteed sales down the line.

i'm not defending it, just adapting to reality.

That's just defending it and semitics.

ok, go ahead and convince the for-profit mega corporation to be kinder to you.
i'll be waiting.

The issue is there is no reliable source of third party dogshit little 3.7V cells.

I can buy great NiMH AAs at any store in the fucking world. And they last a year in storage, instead of 5 minutes.

See, this stupid wordplay shit where you're pretending to actually be against it. Semitics saying shit you don't actually mean.

There is no point in having wireless KBM, you are just introducing a failure point of batteries onto the system.
It would one thing if they were like TV remotes where you are meant to use the device from afar but they aren't, 99.99% of all keyboards and mices are within an arms length of the computer. It's just a con with no pros.

Imagine being so non-White gnomes cut your wires.

Literally no athlete is playing with anything other than shoes designed to play sports with

90% of professional video game players are using wireless mice at this point.

i have no idea how you managed to think i'm just "pretending" to be against it. but i will enjoy extending the lifetime of electronics that i own simply because i have figured out how to use a screwdriver while you're... doing whatever it is you're doing.
you're not going to convince the corporations to switch back to replaceable batteries so you either adapt or keep buying new shit every 2-3 years like a pleb.

Are 10% of professional football players using normal shoes? I must've missed that NFL player running around in sandals

Eventually 100% of them will be using wireless, because there's literally no advantage to wired.

Couldn't be me

NTA but the answer is clearly to take them to the Hall of Cost.

Surely you're not a retard and can understand the point? If it made a big difference like shoes in sports 100% would be using wireless already. Wireless is convenient and that's about it, especially for professionals who travel and play at events where the mouse cord would constantly change position. This doesn't mean you can't play video games with a wired mouse.

This is actually really clever design I have to say
The only downside is that mousepads fail and this is expensive to replace, the ideal would be having a thin coil shim that goes under any mousepad

If it made a big difference like shoes in sports 100% would be using wireless already

No, because the remaining people are still clinging onto their wires because it's just what they are used to.

This doesn't mean you can't play video games with a wired mouse

You can play with a wired mouse, much like an NFL player or football player could also play in normal shoes. But why would you intentionally handicap yourself?

How can someone be exceptionally good at video games with a wired mouse if it's a big handicap? Literally no NFL player would ever think about playing the sport in normal shoes. Think logically for one second.

Genuinely asking, what's the point of those super expensive mouse pads? Like they're so smooth or something?

How can someone be exceptionally good at video games with a wired mouse if it's a big handicap?

There's professional CS players who play at 1024x768 4:3 with black borders and having their face practically glued to the screen. That's a handicap objectively, but it still works for them, simply because they are used to it.

This unironically 4:3 niggers are the most obnoxious FPS players in existence they never shut the fuck up about their handicap resolution

They use black bars because they say it improves concentration and the roles they play don't need the extra field of view

you are all retards, or something is wrong with your hands
literally none of these problems you're complaining about are the fault of the mouse having a cable on it.

there are new esports players every day, and most of them use wired mice. you are stupid in the brain on purpose, god thought it would be funny

there are new esports players every day, and most of them use wired mice

Do you have any evidence to back up this claim? I'd love to see it.

you first

Here you go, you can see that the vast majority of professional players across all games use wireless mice.

prosettings.net/

Now show me your evidence for your claim.

Keychron K2 75%
Logitech Wireless Pro
Wide desk black mousepad from chinkexpress
All my shit is wireless, I'm charging them up every 2 weeks

plenty of wired mice among the best players in the world

Wow it must be very important for the average user who plays Hogwarts Legacy and Stardew Valley to use wireless

A brutal mogging you hate to see it live

Wow it must be very important for the average user who plays Hogwarts Legacy and Stardew Valley to use wireless

Nice strawman.

That's literally the average person on this board. If it doesn't even matter to a lot of pros, it probably doesn't matter at all to us.

How did we get from

most pros use wired

To

You only play casual games anyway it doesn't matter

Obviously most people willing to argue wired vs wireless are probably playing something competitive. A SDV gamer would be happy with a blutooth mouse from DG

we get it dude you don't use a low dpi or play movement games, stop being retarded and commenting on shit that's been pointed out 20 times over

he thinks wireless is just as good

playing something competitive

It's not 2015 anymore

wireless

sasuga braindead goycattle

majority of high end wireless gaming mice perform with less latency when plugged in and that includes the most used ones i.e. superlight 1/2

what kind of low mouse sensitivity do you have to even notice the cable?

Yea it's not. Competitive games are more accessible than ever, everyone plays at least 1 and if you say you don't it's probably because you're a low T cuck with no friends

If it doesn't even matter to a lot of pros

Go to this site and press the "Connection" category 2 times. Now look at how many wireless users there are, and then scroll down and see how little wired users there are.

prosettings.net/gear/lists/mice/

yeah, normalfags on their 60hz monitors powered by a 4060 definitely need to minmax a mouse

Wireless is objectively superior.

morally, even

I get the appeal but I can't bring myself to add another wired accessory to my desk when the point of my wireless mouse was to remove wire clutter from my desk

animefag still lives in 2012

Many such cases.

I can see quite a lot of wired. If wired is good enough for the best players in the world, it's probably good enough for us

They don't which is why wireless is better, what are you even arguing

I can see quite a lot of wired

How many do you see? Tell me the number you see.

Most of my friends have girlfriends and children now so I might be biased. What games are zoomers even playing? fucking Marvel Rivals?

I can't be bothered counting, I could see your point if it was one autist using wired but there seems to be quite a lot. If wireless was objectively superior it wouldn't be a single wired user on that list

Keychron Q3 Max (usually wired but I take the cable out to charge the mouse if needed)
G502 X
Fuckhuge pad for both of them to rest on
It's gayming time

Anon being married or having kids doesn't mean you can't play comp games. Look at the dota pro scene alot of them are married with kids in their 30s and still far better than most players. To answer your question my friends(27-33some married some not) play Rivals but also play siege they played apex before the more recent updates and they play dota.

majority of high end wireless gaming mice perform with less latency when plugged in and that includes the most used ones i.e. superlight 1/2

Not true these days. Pic related, from rtings.

NTA but I'm only competitive in fighting games and winners there always have their own varied controller, sometimes wacky

Guys why would you not want to radiate your balls with wireless signals? If I have a wired mouse and keyboard how will I stop sucking at video games?

but there seems to be quite a lot

Quite a lot, huh? Because from what I am seeing, it seems like an EXTREMELY low number. We're talking like 100 people using wired, versus like +1500 using wireless.

Past years I think most normies gave up on competitive games. If you only have time to play on average an hour a day, you'll have a really bad time

Based FGC chad. I gave up because none of my friends would play with me. The usual cycle of

introduced to fighting game by them

they have no problem stomping me

they start losing

this game isn't fun anymore

Wish my friends could separate their feelings and ego from the games so we coule improve together but it's hard to find people like that

100/1500 is quite a lot. If it made a difference it would be 0/1500. If wired is good enough for so many pros, it's obviously good enough for us

he thinks wireless must have improved by now because the technology came out before he was born

If it made a difference it would be 0/1500

100 vs 1500 already proves that there is a difference, you spastic. If there was no difference, everyone would have just stayed on wired. Your own argument goes against your own logic.

cool website

Fake Loading is such a fucking cancer, and while I understand it's purpose in using it to reduce bandwidth consumption, fuck google for unleashing it onto the internet

Anything new in mouse tech/keyboard?

I kinda want a vertical mouse since I noticed it was comfy when I borrowed a buddy's but I don't know which are good.

ctrl+f "negative latency"

no results

huh, I guess the wireless mouse schizo is taking a break today

I am 35 years old. I probably played UT99, Tribes 1+2, Q3A CPMA, Painkiller, HLDM, etc. before YOU were born.

Wireless has improved massively over the last 10 years, even beating out wired on most new mice. See but I know your type so you won't even recognize it. You're the kind of animefag that still uses hardware from 2012 and tries to claim that "you don't need anything more" as a cope.

i've used this site maybe twice in the last 6 months. amazing

What is fake loading? The site works completely normally for me.

Is there someone like Todd or torque test channel who actually checks the components, weight, etc
autistic breakdowns between geek stuff like mouses, keyboards, drones, cameras??

Damn unc, clock his ass

I agree there's clearly a difference in preference but I don't know how many times I have to say it, if so many pros can compete on a professional level with a wired mouse, do you really think it matters to the average user who's playing mostly single player games?

Is there someone like Todd or torque test channel who actually checks the components, weight, etc

rtings is the closest. There's also people like boardzy, optimum, RocketJumpNinja, etc. but their reviews are more about feelings and don't really have the technical aspects that you are talking about.

i just want something i don't have to think about, it's bad enough my headphones tell me battery low, don't need to add a mouse and keyboard to that.
my biggest problem with mice is that they'll go all out for left and right click and use switches rated for millions of clicks, but then cheap out on the middle mouse with some shitty microswitch that'll always die after an amount of clicks that is measured in the thousands making it pointless.
when i bought my last mouse i got one that specifically used the same Kailh switch for middle mouse as left and right mouse

If wired is good enough for so many pros, it's obviously good enough for us

he thinks wireless must have improved

I used to work for a fiber optics company doing CX onboarding when we rebuilt our infrastructure with fiber. At LEAST 1400 out of every 1500 are clueless dipshits, and will seriously argue that you trying to disconnect their copper line to swap them onto fiber optic was some kind of fucking trick, and it didnt matter what you said, they dont fucking care, it MUST be shit, and worse, most of them will then brag that "I'm switching to the verizon hotspot" or "im switching to starlink" and tell you to not bother.

There are human beings out there who drive the same roads you do that think they "won" against some random isp employee because they pay 180 bucks a month for 200mbps sattelite internet with data caps instead of paying 40 bucks a month to be on a 1gig fiber optic line.

if so many pros can compete on a professional level with a wired mouse, do you really think it matters to the average user who's playing mostly single player games?

A pro CS player could probably compete at 60hz and overcome the handicap through sheer skill. Would you then argue that 60hz is all you need and that 140/240/360hz is useless?

Also, I don't know why you keep bringing up "average players playing single player games". We are obviously talking about people who play FPS games at a competent level. It would be like you attempting to argue that good headphones aren't needed, because someone can get by with a pair of $5 IEMs.

What is fake loading?

Basically a website can defer the loading of elements until the viewport has actually moved over them or other requirements like tying them to cookies.
Ostensibly the purpose of this is easing traffic to websites, so people using things like reader mode, or reading parts of your web page that have fuckhuge media don't immediately chew through your bandwidth, say for example you have a web page that's mostly text and at the bottom has like, a few 4k images.
Instead of having EVERYONE load those 4k images immediately people can just load the text and IF they navigate to said images THEN load them, without having to dedicate a separate web page to them.
But most of the time it's deliberately used to make websites more annoying to use by demanding people become users (and gain the associated cookies), pay, or view advertisments.

I work with people with disabilities, some who are gamers, so I have an advantage that I have a completely fucking unlimited budget and experience with a huge range of weird shit.

For fucking casuals playing fucking casual games it doesn't matter. For anyone who gives a fuck and needs it they're testing their own latency and key rollover. If you NEED super precision, then mouse surfaces, table, cable management for wired mouse start to matter.

Wired also if you need super security. You probably don't.

I see too many fuckers spend huge on expensive mouse and keyboard setups and then have cheap or completely fucking wrong ergonomic setups as far as their table goes.

I STRONGLY prefer replaceable standardized battery. Never waiting for charge time. I can charge and replace at my own pace.

This is more of an issue of shitty, low quality products in general.

Does you keyboard really need custom software?

Wireless technology has improved to the point where only the most autistic could detect any latency.

I see. So why isn't it happening to me?

No he couldn't, he wouldn't get to the top list because he'd be competing against players just as good as him playing at 240Hz. You're making it sound like there's a finite amount of pros and no competition.

Wired is faster. I prefer my wired gamer keyboard I uh, inherited from my coworker who left (what do you call it if he left his stuff for a month?)
Wireless is fine too. Both are fine, I use both. Each one just has it's use case

If you go wireless you have to spend a lot. If you buy cheap shit it will die on you at the worst possible time.

Also this thread addresses Anon Babble as a whole, the average person here doesn't play FPS games at a "competent level"

You people desperately want to argue semantics rather than just admit wireless is fine for competitive and preference to alot of high rank players

I never said wireless is bad, I would buy a wireless mouse if my wired one breaks because it's more convenient.

Alright I'll bite.
Been using the wired version of this.
Does the wireless specs look good?
Never considered cable drag as a potential issue but I can see the logic.
amazon.com/CORSAIR-SCIMITAR-ELITE-WIRELESS-Gaming/dp/B0CCVYHZ9N?th=1
I need those 12 side buttons.

This is more of an issue of shitty, low quality products in general.

No anon, you cannot magically make wireless interference go away by gold plating the receiver.
As much as I wish that was the case and all my neighbor's wifi fucking up MY wifi.

Like they're so smooth or something?

NTA but more or less this yes.
Nicer mousepads and glass especially lower the friction to air hockey-tier levels once you get the right mouse feet as well though mouse skates wear away faster on glass due to friction even if it's a small cost generally. It makes tracking easier which helps with the majority of games these days that aren't CS or Valorant where you'd want a "control" pad instead

I've been rocking the set OP posted for 8 months now. You have no idea how energy efficient wireless has become.

I've got the g pro x superlight 2 and I swear I can notice the latency difference when I plug the mouse in to charge.

Wireless mice would be fine if they all came with charging docks. I'm not going to plug in a charging cable every few days like some fucking caveman. Then what do I do with that fucking cable the rest of the time? Have it just awkwardly unplugged on my desk for the next time I need it? Do I put it away and then go find it every time my mouse runs out of juice? Nah man, I'd rather just have a wired mouse at that point.

This has been so extensively tested at this point it's a dead horse. Any difference you perceive is imagined.

For most mice the cable has the dongle on the end. It just sits in front of your mousepad, and then when your mouse needs to be charged, you remove the dongle, plug the wire into your mouse for 1 hour, unplug wire and put dongle back on it.

Voila, now you have 100 hours more of wireless. The downside of charging docks is that you can't use the mouse while charging it, but with this method you can.

Buy wireless

Have to keep it wired 90% of the time anyways

alright

HOW?
And how the fuck does my set last for 8 months on four of these?

Yeah but then I have to keep the wireless dongle on my desk. It's not an IR receiver, it doesn't need to be on my desk. It's just more clutter.

We are obviously talking about people who play FPS games at a competent level.

No it doesn't. Well, competent as in able to embarrass team r/, but that's not a high bar.

it doesn't need to be on my desk. It's just more clutter.

But with a wired mouse, you'd have the exact same "clutter".

Wireless mice with a dock that has an extra battery that you swap are the only way to go. It's insane that there are only a few of them on the market. It's the ideal solution.

Either you have never actually tried a wireless mouse and you're just lying, or you got a defective unit. All of the ones I've had only required 1-2 hours of charging for 1 week of usage.

I'm going to have a mouse on my desk regardless, a normal mouse looks like less clutter than a wireless mouse, a dongle, and a cable.

That defeats the whole purpose of getting rid of the cable on the desk and behind the desk gathering dust

Sure, your average workstation mouse will last forever on a charge, but gaming mice with over 1000hz polling rate absolutely guzzle juice, and the batteries they use degrade quickly.

Humiliation ritual

Absolutely correct, but you can get a LOT more interference or poor results with really shitty equipment leaking out of bandwitdth, or handling it poorly. As well as the build quality shit.

Simple example. Had a case where a severe t3 quadriplegic was getting odd interference with his setup. Moreso at home, but still some even in my office. It turns out his obnoxious LED and neon light setup was leaking shit everywhere, and that either his wheelchair or respirator was generating interference. Switching his headset, mouse, keyboard to better ones with more frequency options solved that.

a normal mouse looks like less clutter than a wireless mouse, a dongle, and a cable.

What the fuck are you talking about? In this picture, which looks like less clutter to you, left or right?

Left

Only retards would go with right

but gaming mice with over 1000hz polling rate absolutely guzzle juice, and the batteries they use degrade quickly

Please don't tell me you are unironically using your mouse at 2k/4k/8k while not gaming as well.

left, there are fewer objects on the desk

Wirelesstards have to use their mouse THESE EXACT WAYS or they fail

holy cucks lmao

being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian

You could even put the dongle at the very edge of the table too, if you want to actually have the least amount of "clutter" possible.

"it's gaming time, better open my mouse software and increase the polling rate, then make sure i turn it down afterwards" said nobody ever

I don't deal with poorfag shit anymore, but last I checked there was a limit. Under X and you should absolutely NOT get a wireless gaming mouse and should go wired. That was about medium high logitech office shit.

If they take standard batteries, whats the difference?

High performance mice OR shit chinese crap. Maybe both . I suspect the battery issue may be planned obsolescence.

You're embarrassing yourself

Shouldn't your mouse do that for you?

said nobody ever

Literally most people that use 4k/8k do exactly that, otherwise it gets annoying having to recharge your mouse every other day.

hmmm maybe I'll stick with wirde after all

i don't like keyboards with faggy colored leds, and most keyboards have them now.
also, my keyboard works just fine.