That bittersweet hollowness after you finish a really, really fucking good game

Also do the endless tower. That is a really long and progressively difficult gauntlet, but you can save after each fight. Great place for exp/lumina/upgrade materials

iktfb

reminder that you're a fucking retard if you sided with "maelle" (actually alicia)

This But also go to secret gestral fight club to get a shitload of OP solo pictos, those will make solo duels way easier. I think you were supposed to find this early though, since I just one shot all 4 of the fights

destroy the entire painted world and everyone in it that you actually care about to save a couple of miserable faggots irl who hate you

Verso is the KWAB ending

try the 99K damage limit mod or other similar mods

Who tf would want that? Enemies can already have comically large HP pools despite having only a few easy to dodge/parry attacks.

Act 3 is *meant* to be breaking the game. That's where the game comes from. You should already have been playing on Expert and there is NG+ too.

The bonkers damage is only against enemies with zero defense. Most high levels enemies take way less, aside from brokenly OP shit like Gommage

I'm near the end and lost almost all motivation to play it because I know that once I finish it it'll take months, if not years for another game to fill in the void that this game will leave in my heart.

literally me

crazy how people are praising this. The story was basically nothing is real, nothing matters it's all caused by a womans random voodoo paintin magic. Wow...

So sick of you normalfag playstation fags unable to not praise a game you play like it's the fucking bible.
Holy shi are you lowlives insufferable about being bad at reading comprehension and clapping at a pretty firework with no substance.

You didn't play it

Just do the party relationship quests and then go for Lumiere.

The story

It's a VIDEO GAME, Rishdeep.

My only gripe is that the game opens up the map and lets you explore so I explored and by the time I got to the final boss, it wasn't even a challenge. Still a great ending but there was no challenge.

kino

that bittersweet hollowness after you finish a really, really fucking good game

Yeah I'm suffering from that after 33 as well. Not sure if I should try to move onto something new or take the change to replay some older games. Either way I'm sort of drifting between games at the moment.

pic unrelated

gameplay mechanics so good and textures so realistic I now feel empty inside after finishing the game. And I can never experience the gameplay again shame

Said no one ever. This thread is mainly about the story.

you can always take off the damage cap lumina to stop you 1shotting the last boss.

what time does patch drop? i havnt hit 1 billion dmg yet

Both me btw

Max Payne looking good

t.

This is one of those games that makes me think everything's alright and vidya still has a bright future. It's a bit too bleak and melancholy in the story department to make it the kind of game I want to replay a lot, but I will remember it forever and I think it will be discussed here for a long time.
Fav song youtube.com/watch?v=iupAZVwofpU

Opposite for me. The story got too ridiculous after act 2. I guess that's why I don't play jap games

You didn't play it

Fight Simon

Beat him

Cryptic voice + 2nd phase

JFC

Rise, Zanzibart, slayer of giants...

2nd phase is fucking BS
I swear

Buy an ad

Do the story content asap. Game is poorly tuned so it's very easy to get overleveled. Wouldn't be surprised if you already were.

2nd phase is fucking BS

took me 17 seconds

It's easy anon! Just keep doing NG+ over and over and NEVER stop playing the game, it's what Maelle would want you to do

baawww I want to play with my dolls in a fake world and torture the last piece of my brother's soul until the day I die

Verso was right about EVERYTHING.
Total painting gommage.

Verso saying goodbye to Monoco and Esquie

that shot of Sciel walking towards Verso with that music

that shot of your companions waving goodbye in the Verso ending

Sucker for all this shit. Fitting game to be my last.

kill tens of thousands because I'm a whiny faggot

No

Fitting game to be my last.

What happened...

noooo you must give up your life and real world and force your brother into torture to protect some literal doodles

The medium doesn't interest me anymore.

VersoGODS, where we at?

We both know it's not gonna be the last, I always tell myself that too...
I might stop with games which focus too much on gameplay. Absolutely true that makes for better games on paper, but the problem is, you are left with nothing after it ends. At least for JRPGs I can look back at their story, for SMB3 I am not looking back at anything

Playing the piano for Lumiere again and being a bitch as usual.

Why is a game either utter dogshit or the literal holy grail to you faggot fucks? Yes it's a good game, but it's like an 8/10, you retarded incels keep calling it an 11/10 like you have any taste. Then you try to act like you have a moral high ground despite 99% of the E33 threads on Anon Babble being cumbrain posts of the girls in their bikinis.

Won't be a grand RPG like this for years. Can't tell you how much I missed just progressing through a big world, fighting cool bosses and enemies, learning a new combat system, with non-Japanese style storytelling. Expert was so much fun. Watched some streamers and all the other difficulty modes are braindead.

I couldn't have cared less about cosmetics. Thought the unabashed foot shit was kinda nasty, too. It's a 9/10, easy.

Sadly, still alive

Same bro, I don't know what to play now.
I boot up oblivion remastered and alt f4 that shit after 5 minutes.

literal doodles

do people who think this even like the game? ninety percent of the story is about these doodles. every single party member is a doodle -- even maelle, half of her life and character is a life she lived in lumiere. is the entire game just about fake people who can die without consequences then?

Act like you care about Verso's soul when his ending is literally destroying all of Verso's creation because he is le sad

traitor scum

Alicia at the end says “please don’t leave me again” to Verso
People say she’s selfish but she’s just retarded like her mother, real Verso actually gave his life for her and she just wants to throw it away so that can be wity him in a fantasy

literally me. I said this year was going to be the last year I would waste my time on games that comes buggy and with extreme requirements. Now that I finished E33, I'm not so sure anymore. Maybe there's hope.

Oh jesus fuck, get over yourself you faggot

theres thousands of good games out there

You can be admire and be attached to fictional characters without obsessing over them and giving up your life to live in make believe world.

prey stoy

wtf it wasn't real so nothing you did mattered

expedition story

it wasn't real but they still deserved a chance at life but couldn't because of their cycle of grief

the game was so good it undid 10+ years of french incompetence spearheaded by ubisoft and david cage.

It's goated with the mother sauce.

What did Maelle write on the monolith? dad ????

Go away.

His soul clearly wanted to finally stop painting and rest in peace. In Maelle's ending she is forcing him to continue, because she wants to leave her fake dream life at Verso's expense, because her real one sucks.

i want to play it but it's out of stock everywhere

I only felt this with Bloodborne and this since ps4 gen+ started

Do final boss, then maelle side quest, then whatever order

yes, i know, but they're ALL fictional, so what distinction are you drawing between them and the 'real' characters? why do the 'real' characters matter more if they're all fictional?

Currently in Act 3 and genuinely dislike how they handled it in comparison to the first two acts. It's literally "either go for the companion quests or get obliterated by every single newly accesible area and fight you unlocked via flying, oh and also it's basically the FF13 late game with the open field.

I only sided with Verso because I'm suicidal.

He can't immerse himself on the perspective of a fictional world relative to another fictional world and think through different layers putting himself on the perspective of the main perceived one in the work of fiction

Danganronpa V3 ending tier filter

Dad, wait.

woah

no you don't get it -- i *liked* the ending of V3, because it made sense in-universe that the characters were like, people who'd had fictional identities implanted into them. it's all fictional, so i'm no less invested.

the problem with clair obscur is that it doesn't make any sense for alicia and verso and renoir to consider the painted people fictional, because they're independent beings with free will who want to be alive. there's no analogy between the fictional worlds we see in stories and games and the very *real* world they enter in the paintings. by clearly approving of verso's ending, the game seems to endorse lune and sciel and gustave etc.'s perspectives not mattering within its story, even though there's no logic in the story that justifies discounting them as fake.

Did you just literally skip the dialogue when she does it?

Papa Va T'en

Maelle is really such an entitled child.

no one in this game is chaotic evil ffs. and real renoir definitely isn't chaotic good, even if you agree with him he's not "chaotic"
actually wait verso might be chaotic evil

My interpretation is, it's relative fakeness.
In the moment you recognize different layers of reality, the beings in control of the one over you take priority.
If we were able to simulate universes, even if those had arguably sentient beings, we probably wouldn't think too much of them, it would be inpractical first of all, but second, as we'd be the gods, those would only exist to serve our purposes.
When you think about the story that deep, then you realize that's a sad philosphical conclusion you must reach. Especially since the philosophical world right now is struggling to define objective reality without the need of a religious framework.
Besides real people have identifiable souls, painted people seem not to have one, so there is your proof they aren't alive in the same way the painters are

The Dessendres are one fucked up family fr

What I dislike the most about Act 3 and the ending is that Maelle is basically just fucking dies and gets replaced by Alicia wearing her skin.
Maelle is strong and daring and Alicia is a pathetic timid empty husk. I thought the story will go in such direction that Alicia learns from living as Maelle and gets her shit together and goes to do grand things in the real world after saving Canvas.
Instead she is reduced to a weak bitch hiding in a tiny make-believe world, because life in the real one is too hard and complicated. Maelle would never do that. That's not my girl, that's a skinwalker. Plain and simple.

Brainlet chart
Gommage yourself

where the fuck did this retarded theory that states Verso painted Monoco while inspired by the dessendre family dog come from

But Maelle was the skin walker wearing the mask, not the other way around

Did you not wander around the manor when you were controlling fried bacon Alicia?

Play the game you literal dumb zoomer. It's right after act 2 in the mansion as Alicia.

If we were able to simulate universes, even if those had arguably sentient beings, we probably wouldn't think too much of them, it would be inpractical first of all, but second, as we'd be the gods, those would only exist to serve our purposes.

I don't think this follows at all. If I discovered that we were living in a simulation I'd be damn desperate to make sure it didn't get unplugged. And if we simulated a place with sentient beings we'd be totally responsible for it. It's like Horton Hears a Who.

they're soulless

are they? i think there's pretty strong evidence they aren't. nobody in the game says this -- this is my main problem with the ending, is that renoir and verso never address the people they're actions are affecting, they never argue as to why it's OK for them to do this to the painted people. they just quote each other and say vague things like 'life forces tough choices' without explaining anything or responding to maelle's objections.

mfw

No.

sounds like a skill issue desu. The first thing I did in act 3 was go kill the big robot in the ocean with 5 mil HP, then second was the big thing in the sky with 10 mil. I did this at level 50. If anything my complaint is that the late act 2 bosses and the final boss have far too little health.

I watched the scene for when she said dad go home or something but it said and I’m not French.

is that renoir and verso never address the people they're actions are affecting, they never argue as to why it's OK for them to do this to the painted people

The only people who matter probably are well in the know of what the painted people are or not, and they don't care about getting fake people in the known, considering Alicia takes no issue in mind controlling them, it's safe to say regardless of what you think of them, she sees them as their plaything

There are two dogs sleeping by the fireplace, one named Noco, and the other named Monoco.

Red is cooler, not many people sees it I guess

oh shit

I haven't played such a game in like 15 years

zanzibartoooooooo

For Renoire well being of his family was simply more important than Canvas. And for Verso it was more important to lay Verso's soul to rest and kick Alicia back into the real world. That's it.

The only people who matter probably are well in the know of what the painted people are or not

i think that's a copout. the game won't call the painted people fake, because that invalidates the huge amount of effort its put into building them up as characters and getting the player invested in them, but the logic of its ending hinges on them being fake. if the game never says they're fake or shows them to be fake, why aren't we to assume that renoir and clea aren't just acting like callous uncaring gods?

Alicia takes no issue in mind controlling them

that they're all happy in the maelle ending doesn't mean they're mind-controlled, just that she's giving them what they want.

Maelle was "the cooler Alicia" and she should've overwritten her not the other way around.

Can you just go watch lost or fma03 or something
Holy christ
Is this autism

They're all oppressed by her either way. She can gommage them on demand, or even rewrite their personalities. She's a god to them whether they like it or not. that will influence how they behave toward her.

yeah, but verso and renoir are clearly in the wrong for doing this then, and the game doesn't present it that way at all. if you put your family and your own depression over an entire world of sentient beings you're morally deranged

Why is Anon Babble so fotm now?
A game comes out, its the great gift to mankind for like a month. And then after that month it might as well be wiped from existence and memory like it never existed at all.

Still not playing your goyslop, Chang

true, I don't think the maelle ending is 'good.'
isn't lost popularly considered to have had a bad ending? i haven't seen either show.

This game needs some qol. Not being able to know how many lumina it costs from the picto screen. Also if a zone is complete give it a check mark.

As an addendum. Act 3 Sciel and Lune act differently to act 1/2 and have different voice lines in combat. Because they are Alicia's creations, whereas act 1/2 were Aline's creations. They're ultimately different people, but Act 3 is based on Alicia's interpretation of Aline's creation. The entire situation is fucked up and Verso and Renoir were correct in bringing it to an end.

maelles bullshit move is getting nerfed tommorow

i have no idea how to parry simon

yeah i dont think im beating this superboss bros

I did it without bullshit anon, you can do it too. I just parried my ass off. It took me like 5 hours though.

On the other side, it really fucking sucks when everyone loves a game and pretty much unanimously says its great, and for whatever reason (You) just can't get into it or get it to click.
Like what am I missing that literally no one else is?

Verso is clearly mind controlled in the ending, and the people of lumiere are living empty devoid lives if you even can call them those.
Look, I can see the arguments for letting the painted world intact, but Alicia has to GTFO for both the sake of the painting, her family and her own. She clearly isn't because she's a egoistic teenager who wants to dream until she dies

Blame Renoir for gommaging her

The end of that month can't come any faster

People exhaust any possible topic and move on to the next single player game.

Shockers, guess we should talk about Chrono Trigger still

Act 3 Sciel and Lune act differently to act 1/2 and have different voice lines in combat

this is at least debatable -- they have the same goals, personalities, histories, memories. i think you're looking for a reason to discard them as fake.

The entire situation is fucked up and Verso and Renoir were correct in bringing it to an end.

it's fucked up that everyone in lumiere was erased, but that's verso and renoir's fault isn't it? renoir and the painters just seem like *deeply* irresponsible gods who are willing to destroy entire worlds of sentient life that they've created just to save a single one of their own from blissful disengagement and a shorter life.

that they're all happy in the maelle ending doesn't mean they're mind-controlled

The ending scene clearly and plainly shows Maelle mind controlling Verso to make him play the piano.
That's your take. If you were to ask random men whether they would trade entire world for life of their daughters most would choose family over the world. In Maelle's ending you save the canvas world but she is forever stuck in escapist fantasy while her family in real world fights Writers for survival.

You're probably just a miserable loser who can't enjoy things due to your inability to not be miserable. Not my problem. You probably also act like this while having an easy life so the story of the game won't hit with all of these + narcissistic inability to care about others perspective (point of the game)

whats the next game?

And then after that month it might as well be wiped from existence

Good. It was a solid game. No reason to rape it for 3,000+ threads.

Maelle is no different than a benzo / heroine / whatever addict dissassocisting and using drugs to cover grief with escapism while life moves around them. Renoir was right and you're genuinely stupid emotional if you don't agree. It isn't gray sorry.

Something something writers and prequel to the house catching fire.

They did say Clair Obscur is the universe. So it's either another painting or the real world. Clea seemed pretty pissed with writers, so maybe that.
They can expand upon E33 world in story DLCs imo

no dlc

it's over

renoir should've explained to the party that he has the power to destroy their whole world and will do it if they don't kick out his wife and daughter. they have the power to do it, as evidenced by verso doing it solo.

That's your take. If you were to ask random men whether they would trade entire world for life of their daughters most would choose family over the world

come on, isn't this deeply fucked up though? the entire first act of the game is predicated on the tragedy of the gommage, and we're just supposed to accept the worst possible outcome of everyone dying just so one person can be less deluded about her grief.

no i meant whats the next game people get hyped about this year

The painters are all wrong. Aline was wrong for painting these people in the first place, Alicia was wrong for repainting them.

did u guys like the ending to act 1 or act 2 more

Yeah but what about Expedition 33?

IMO the only way a sequel can work is by being a psychological drama, where the works of art/writings overtly represent the author's mind and you dive to understand what's wrong with them.

Maelle's ending is very cruel but your pic is one of best shot of the game. When I think of Clair Obscure I think of Verso now.

and renoir was wrong for erasing them!

Act 2.

act 1 made me feel like shit and sad
act 2 just made me confused
act 3 made me feel like shit and sad all over again

fuck this game

act 2 is more kino but I miss gustave

2 is phenomenal despite the bitching here about muh painting

C'est fini...

Blame zoomers and their non existent attention spans. They need their monthly dose of "peak".

Renoir erasing them was a morally horrible thing, But it was done. Then Alicia decided yeah let's bring them all back for her own selfish reasons. The people she brought back werent even the same as the ones who died, they're just creations based on those. Its incredibly fucked, she basically just created a whole bunch of other people to die.

Sorry for not talking about this game before it existed anon

We desperately need Maelle's ending Verso face edit for kinoface.

all the campfire conversations in act 3 sort of imply that the people who are brought back are essentially the same, or close enough anyway.

but yeah the really fucked thing was verso and renoir just not giving a shit about erasing an entire civilization of people, and verso letting gustave get murdered just because he knew gustave would've figured out what was up and opposed it.

Melodramatic slop for women and sissies to cry to

maelle would make more sense to be the kino face

Act 2. I yelled Kojima! during this scene and then I clapped
youtu.be/RdiffZfLfkQ?t=1646

Except even if the story and characters sucked it would be a strong 8.5/10

The mom deserves to have the shit beat out of her by her husband
Entire game happened because of a woman moment

this fucking game

"essentially the same"
If I make a clone of you and give it some of your memories and my interpretation of who you are, then I kill you. In this situation are you still alive.

I did also like Nier games, so probably correct.

god i wish french women were real

but yeah the really fucked thing was verso and renoir just not giving a shit about erasing an entire civilization of people

Renoire says to Verso he is sorry that he was painted and that he can only offer oblivion. It's clear how they view the situation. They think these people should've never been painted in the first place. It's subtle and It's good that the script doesn't beat you over the head with it.

ready for the DLC to be about expedition zero

Maelle's ending was pretty fucking dark. I thought at the end Verso was just discouraging her from sticking around in the canvas for her own sake mostly, but then he dumps a bunch of suicidal shit on her. Followed by him sitting at the piano as if forced to live out her fantasy world, while her face is literally melting away from staying too long. I didn't mean to be the baddie, bros.

Act 2 with the alicia reborn scene

shit was beautiful with the painted mom’s speech and the music

Yeah, that's probably also why E33 are too scared to post gameplay of this chingchongslop

calls other women and sissies

proceeds to post tranime or similar derived degeneracy

every time

they will not milk it

You won't yet understand, but this is a kindness, not a cruelty.

If you weren't a fucking woman you would have realized destroying the canvas and forcefully ejecting everyone was the right choice. Did Maelle begging Renoir for "just a little longer" not tip you off? Bitch was severely addicted.

Wouldn’t they just be that psychonauts?

This gustavé wardrobe is a pre-order exclusive shit?

Anons help me out.
Anyone knows the song playing here?
youtu.be/qyxwZLSjYJE?t=140

verso's different because he's immortal i think. that you regret people being created doesn't make it right to erase them -- would god have the right to erase us?

Nigga the tens of thousands of painted people with real feelings, thoughts, and pain matter more than a couple irl faggots

Its entirely my fault but man the last 5 bosses were so anticlimactic because I explored first and killed everything in 3 turns

What could you really do? Shit about the writers the family is fighting?

But it also meant bringing the people of Lumiere back, even if they were painted. The way I'd interpreted it, it was more like Maelle was willing to suffer longer for them, as opposed to just torturing everyone for her own selfishness.

its objectively the bad ending and should be dark
that said it was kino as fuck

I dont want this life

I dont want this life

versos death scene hit me 10x harder than gustaves and I didnt even like verso that much but fucking hell that death scene was brutal

Yes, something like that

NPCs are not and will never be real. Go home, Maelle.

Gustave = söy

Lune = permabitch

Sciel = whore

Verso = cuck

Maelle = a cute

Alcia = whiny cunt

Too bad. Visages is the most kino boss fight when you're underpowered.

simon sends my current party to the shadow realm

have to play with lune and monoco who can't even muster 5k damage per hit

KINOOOOOOOO

Anime Board, Anime website, haha. Reddit might be more your speed, chuddie.

Are the Writers a faction within Paris, or are they a tier of reality above and Cleo is pissed because they used their family as a plot device? Are they the literal writers of the game?

ive been skipping and alt tabbing during the cutscenes lmao
cool gameplay though, it makes every other turnbased game look like shit

Why didn’t you remove painted power?

How is Gustave a onions? He sacrificed himself to save his sisterfu. Nothing manlier than this.
Also he was definitely not a simp with all the allusions Sciel made about wanting his dick and him keeping his composure.

Not expedition 60

Is Cleo powerful enough to jump outside the videogame for revenge over the writers? Will she fuck and marry me while she's out here?

we dunno

Paris doesn't exist even in the "real life". It's still Lumiere.

Aline had no right to bring them into existence in the first place. And then Maelle had no right to bring them back. Renoire is the least wrong in this whole situation. Aline and Maelle are irresponsible fucked up demiurges who brought civilisation into existence for petty egotistical escapist fantasy

It's referred to Paris ingame though

I removed painted power for the final boss.

You better at least have been on expert, fag

Been here since 2009 zoomzoom. Wut you gonna do?

Ville lumière

Paris

Same thing.

december 33rd

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

When? Malle states she has memories of "two Lumieres" in Act 3.

nta but in his defense Gustave behaves like a timid numale pushober until his very last moment where he does a 180° and actually reveales a spine which is why I appreciate him. He stood up when the moment called for it.

The Alicia epilogue in act 2.

Is this the Gao Gai Gar thread?
youtu.be/zgAazreoQqA

would god have the right to erase us?

Answer's overwhelmingly yes by the account of every single religion on Earth, in fact he already drowned everyone and then nuked Sodom and Gomorrah for having anal sex

I don't think they were getting meta. Probably every kind of artist has demiurgic powers. Maybe there are Musicians, Sculptors, etc.

I don't remember this. Why would Aline paint a fake life for herself and rename the city from Paris to Lumiere?

The "real word" confirmed for being just another plane of existence like the canvas. The Writers are to their world what the Painters are to the canvas world.

Lumiere is just an era-appropriate nickname for Paris anyway

10 minute perfect solo battle that I am insanely underleveled for

perfect parrying, boss at 15% health

animation glitches and I miss a dodge

instantly dead

but they're all naked..

For the same reason poke-Britain is named Galar

They're not. The analogy is that the canvas are a persons memories of someone they loved deceased, and people holding onto to and absorbing themselves into those memories constantly isn't healthy as you're living in a world that isn't real anymore, as you slip away in the real world from the people who you still have, who still love you. It's unhealthy to not let yourself move on. The cope of you saying "but they're real people!" is similar to people who keep playing out those memories in their own mind, their justifications being "I don't want to forget" or thinking that forgetting them is somehow the same as meaning that you stopped caring about them. It's why keeping the canvas is the bad ending because as an analogy, you end up escaping the real world in favor for those memories, destroying your connection to the real world outside your own head, because the memories of the deceased being alive is more comforting.

I think the people of Lumiere were painted by Aline, but Lumiere itself and the setting of the world were painted by child Verso.
He made a fictional world and based it on what he knew, like a kid does.

there are versoposters in this thread RIGHT NOW

It's been quite a while since I've not only finished an RPG, but actually WANTED to finish it out of enjoyment rather than from a desire to get shit over with.
Great game.

implying Esquie isnt pro Verso.

wondering why the game doesn't have overwhelmingly positive rating on Steam

most negative reviews are Chinese seething about Verso because of implied NTR

Yeah same, I'm pretty sure my last time was with Xenoblade 3 FC

do maelleniggers actually

I think Verso only painted the continent, gestrals, Esquie, Noco, Monoco and that another race in the mountains that I forgot the name of. And when Aline went into Verso's Canvas, she painted fake life for herself, including Lumiere, all the people and her family.

Playing Lost Odyssey rn because of it

Am I missing something? the only possible NTR would be Verso with Sciel because of her husband, but he's dead.

If this 6/10 game blew your socks off, Maybe you guys will actually play some other JRPGs now, instead of writing the entire genre off like you have been doing for the past 30 years.

Never exploit Esque to support drugs ever again

Okay, be real with me. Does this have ANY woke shit?

Verso can fuck Sciel even after she has become aware that her husband can be revived making it a strange pseudo-NTR

Yes, don't play it.

I still don’t understand why a lower number every year.

It features cripple MC.

Astroturf thread #1678

anon esquie is a walking talking wine dispenser

I find the idea that the painted people are = proper humans kind of questionable with how they can be gommaged in and out of existence like that, not to mention how they seemed like marionette's in Maelle's ending
Also is it ever explained why just the humans get killed by Renoir? He's trying to destroy the whole canvas

not pirating a Jewbisoft-adjacent game

I only played Xenoblade 1 back on the Wii. I think I stopped right around the point where you arrive at the city of head-wing-people.
I should come back to it someday. Somehow.

my question is why did it take almost 3 decades for devs to realize they don't need to get dicked around by AAA studios

seethe maelletard

It's time to quite being deluded and go to bed, little girl.

Much as we clown on UE5 some of the meme technology can be very useful for small studios

playing every hour I have out of work

started on the weekend

just met Esquie

this shit will take forever man

renoir is fighting for control and erasing the oldest creations. the reason he's able to slowly win like this is because cleo intervened in the shitshow and created the nevrons, when nevrons kill expeditioners their chroma doesn't return to the paintress for her to reuse. therefore renoir is slowly winning, even if it is causing a lot of suffering.

I find the idea that the painted people are = proper humans kind of questionable with how they can be gommaged in and out of existence like that

if we never saw the "real" world and the family was treated as gods rather than people, would your perspective change at all?

No thanks.

"for those who come after!"

9999

slowmo into victory screen

this plays

LUDO LUDO LUDO
youtu.be/WK1vBuVpFmY?si=49dDOnAatx4DmKPv&t=409

because going indie is risky and is following your passion REALLY worth it if you lose your presumably well-paying job and don't win the lottery for your game to become popular (little to do with merit)

In the very first town there are black NPCs, these are the only blacks in the entire game. They are not present after the first 30 minutes of the game. There is no homosexuality. One of the women in your party is of east asian descent. all women are drawn to be attractive. The game at no point attempts to promote marxism or bitch about capitalism, or fascism.
If this is too woke for you, then you might be a bit too invested in the culture war.

skip all cutscenes

beat game

barely know what anyone is talking bout regarding story

don't plan on playing post game

is metaphor combat even good

is it possible to even tank simons hits? he hits for like 9 fucking k

You have NO idea how difficult it is to do anything in Europe. America's corporativism is much more ouvert, but Europe's worse and more subtle. Here in Europe, either Ubisoft funds your game or fuck you.

There is some minimal amount of pozz sprinkled in the first hour of the game in the form of 1/3rd of the Paris population in early 20th century being black and a fag couple but after that it's completely nigger free and has zero modern day politics or anything like that. Something tells me they were forced to add that shit at the 11th hour and just copy pasted some nog NPCs and called it a day to preemptively avoid the usual suspects writing hit pieces about the game and the studio.

Would the Gestrals not be significantly older than the humans Aline made?

if we never saw the "real" world and the family was treated as gods rather than people, would your perspective change at all?

maybe, maybe not, but if the Gods are able to make them behave and act exactly as they want then its effectively the same

metaphor combat is serviceable but in typical fatlus fashion the game is way too long for what it has to offer and you'll likely get bored of it before finishing
e33 has that going for it, it isn't way too fucking long. i never had time to get bored of the combat.

all of Europe is France

Indie scene can be rough, I'd argue moreso for bigger developer groups than smaller. There's been a lot of flops in that regard. AA hasn't been doing great either, with most of the successful ones actually being tied to successful franchise/IP Tie-ins like Robocop.
I hate UE5, but for smaller teams I can understand its use.

Here in Europe, either Ubisoft funds your game or fuck you

Well you are clearly wrong rofllmao

1. The tech wasn't mature enough. UE5 is shit but it is a blessing for small team if they want to rival AAA on polish level
2. You need to take a lot of risks to make a game this ambitious as a noname, especially a turn based one. Most indie devs start with something smaller in scope as their first game. These devs simply said fuck it.

No and even if you could he constantly puts you down to 1hp anyway

euro countries, especially ones where the media landscape hasn't been totally americanized like france typically have either government loans for gamedev or huge tax breaks for gamedev

desu while the amount of nogs in lumiere is unrealistic for 1905 France, its pretty accurate for 2025 Paris. If anything there's too few for 2025.

the gestrals were made by verso and not aline i guess renoir only grommages stuff aline made

i disagree, i think destroying a civilization that was created for stupid reasons is like killing a baby that was born for stupid reasons.

I'm not in France and Ubisoft is literally the only one allowed to work in here, my university videogame's course (which I of course didn't take) had Ubisoft written in every document

Haha niggers, enjoy your woke slop chud

Why is there no secret ending? This seems like the type of game that would have a secret ending. In new game plus or something.

Would the Gestrals not be significantly older than the humans Aline made?

yes, but they were created by verso so they don't particularly want to touch them.

maybe, maybe not, but if the Gods are able to make them behave and act exactly as they want then its effectively the same

isn't that how gods usually work?

Having a happy ending would ruin the game.

1/3rd of the Paris population in early 20th century being black

Well that's not exactly true.

Much as we clown on UE5 some of the meme technology can be very useful for small studios

The game started on UE4 and they got a bunch of grants for free software to animate their characters because that shit costs thousands.
Also Tim Fortnite himself gave them 50k

Why is there no secret ending? This seems like the type of game that would have a secret ending.

Does it though? Does it really?

What kind of ending were you thinking of?

E33 was a labor of love in every sense
a lot of the staff slept at the office and worked for weeks on end just because they were really into what they were making. That kind of enthusiasm for anything is rare, especially nowadays

"I knew you'd open the door her!"

immediately gets btfo and called a retard by renoir

KINO

I guess the optimal ending would be something like the people are recovered, maelle is forced out, verso gets to die, the painting is somehow preserved/"finished" so no one can do shit to it again

This game was funded by Kepler and they fucking love adaptations, so a series or film is as good as confirmed, for better or for worse.
Or they can use the inherent advantage of their first game having a TITLE:SUBTITLE naming scheme and just make another game.

yeah instead they're just AA studios funded by net ease and have hundreds of millions in funds to pre-approve a movie and viral marketing. so different man so indie. retards fall for the easiest tricks in the book.

Too fairytale. Would ruin the game. Its just unrealistic. The entire point is that such a resolution is not possible due to Verso and Maelle's goals and how steadfastly they believe in them. Renoir too.

Are their adaptations usually faithful or do they take freedoms?

I am not buying your game.

Germany has been funding Uwe Boll movies for decades

TITLE:SUBTITLE naming scheme

Wasn't that the original plan of theirs? To create the universe and expand it with each new game?

Ask someone who watched that Sifu animation because I haven't.

Golden ending because the real MC didn't die in act 1

If this game is a 6 why would anyone play the soft 2s you're pedaling? Once you've tasted caviar you don't wanna start shoveling cowshit into your mouth

Maelle's ending is SPECIFICALLY addressing how escapist golden ending begging is

Just got to Act 3 and it all pretty makes sense.
My only hold-up is Verso. Do we ever see him getting painted in? Did he just hang out with Aline for a bit before his dad (the fracture) happened? Or was he just manifested?

Depends on your definition of woke, the real answer is no. The prologue are has some niggers who die and a man crying over another dead man retards who didn't play the game keep using as a "gay" example but the reality is.

whole cast white but 1 asian girl

hetero relationships only

0 annoying girlpower moments despite the gender split

This game is anti DEI anyone saying otherwise is a troon angry because their favorite Atlus or Sqenix brand of HRT isn't being discussed anymore

Can't wait for their next game to have a singular nog in the party so people lose their shit.
As if that wasn't already a staple in jrpgs.

nuRenoir vas giga based. More so than RealRenoir.

can't romance Lune because I fucked Sciel

It's not fair I was ROBBED

its a game about how women are crazy and selfish

Can't wait for their next game to have a singular nog in the party so people lose their shit.

I would have liked Lucien to stick around honestly

It's not (You) though

Maybe you shouldn't have fucked sciel?

Can't romance Clea because she's liven in a different reality

Verso is LITERALLY me

They took away the ip count for blatant shill threads like this

Just kill yourself my man.

I really don't understand why people like this stuff in the games, I can see it in dating sims or even something like Persona, or porn games where you get some reward for it, but I don't really care to just watch a passing line of "let's fuck", "k" and it to never be addressed again or have any relevancy

She's also Verso's sister. It would be pretty weird to bang her.

I fucked both of them. Pick better dialogue options next time.

I didnt say happy ending. I said secret ending.

Well I think the only way to make it work would be to have it be some kind of joke ending like the Silent Hill dog.

HA HA HA HA HA HA

And that's a good thing

You are stupid if you think it's an easy choice.

Verso did nothing wrong.

It's not over yet. We're in the endgame now, we will make the Writers bring Verso back.

I wasn't sure if I still had this feeling in me. Makes me optimistic for the future.

that bittersweet hollowness after you finish a really, really fucking good game

I have never felt that sensation, I just shrug and move on.

Gustave is getting over his oneitis. It's only been like three days since his ex got thanos snapped; give the guy a break.

nothing is real, nothing matters

There is no way that you have a brain and actually believe this. The canvas people are so obviously real that I'd feel retarded explaining it to you.

Francois is a cunt

you play as toddlers?

It's not a PS exclusive. You don't have to pretend to hate it.

Esquie ending

He just vomits enough wine to have alicia pass out and get out of the painting before she and Verso fight

Clea then just takes it away from Renoir and locks it in her own room because she likes to hang out with Esquie, Monoco and Francois from time to time

Maelle is now addicted to alcohol instead

I'm not going to feel sweet at all when I finally reach the end. It will be merely bitter after what was done to Gustave. Fuck this game. Game of Thrones or Attack on Titan tier where replays/rewatched are impossible because of how shit it became. Verso can go fuck himself I'm tired of the game forcing him on me at camp and when I load a game he is the one being controlled.

She's french, so alcoholism is a marked improvement.

literally you

Sciel is superior

33rd december

KINO

I played quite a recent ones not too long ago!
Octopath 2, Metaphor and SMTVV were good. FFVII Reborn, Persona 5, Star Ocean 2 remake, FFXVI and (modded)Pokemon Scarlet mid.
Imagine my disappointment when the hyped up FFVII Rebirth turned out to be a ubislop open world checklist simulator and the only one of those I couldn't finish. Truly unplayable if you don't have nostalgia for the original.
I'm thinking E33 is better than all of them, though some beat it when it comes to gameplay because they're more than just stacking damage multipliers.
Playing Romancing Saga 2 remake next, what will I think of it?

LITERALLY
ME

RS2 remake is great. Go in as blind as possible for the best experience.

Why do I like RealClea?

Cunt who cares AND thirst for revenge.

The game raping Gustavo RPG protag self inserters up the ass within the first act was funny, but then quadrupling down on adding a relations meter for Verso is just hilarious

You want her to step on your dick.

Yeah, I like how she's in for the bigger picture stuff. Stop painting, we have a war to win.

gestrals are cool hope they keep them as a mascot race

fuck moogles

clearly you havent played the game

The shirt with exposed chest. Her dommy mommy personality is the icing on the cake.

fuck moogles

dont do that

still can't find the OST anywhere

I'm not paying for it and I'm not using spotify

Should I play FF7 remakebirth or KCD 1-2?

I played FF7 last year, that was a 5-6. This is a 9/10+ easily

No DLC as the gigachad expedition

sad

people saying it having the best OST of all time

havent played the game yet but it really feels like recency bias, I've listened to some tracks and they just feel decent to me.
maybe with context on when they play those songs makes them better idk

Remakebirth's probably the better game, but I see no reason of playing it considering the original is superior and isn't diluted shit and, gameplay wise, it's cancer which is not gonna fulfill your RPG needs nor your action game ones.

just skip kcd1, 2 is just a much better version in like every way

wait, i know what that means
youtube.com/watch?v=YRVNTtyqmQA

I watched a playthrough and the game looked mid as hell. It's an Atlus RPG with French sensibilities. Genuinely don't understand the hype. It's decent 7.5 or 8.

My only dip in enjoyment was when geatrals were introduced, I was afraid it was going to turn into a whimsical journey in a magical land. It got back on track after esquie pretty quickly and I even wound up liking gestrals, eventually.

youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lJbuSXw4Bfo2tDlP6s_CNznTfYGe0GEBM

Whats the next game that will get all the love this game got?

So few games make me feel genuine emotion. It was great.

None of the games in your picture.

All I want is for them is to exceed E33

Deservedly? None of these except maybe Shinobi/Ninja Gaiden
From shit-headed normies? Soulslop #8275398754398 for sure.

I like Sciel but Lune is fucking gorgeous

well theres nothing else really coming out this year. those are all the notable games.

mostly sequels

That's why E33 should win GOTY, nothing quite like a breath of fresh air from a new company.

Poor guy has to play the bing bing machine instead of getting to kill everybody.

80h not 30

True gamer

I don't see any other game getting this kind of praise this year.

billions must die

I took 100+ hours

Stop being so smug and antagonistic about your ending choice, jackass.

youtu.be/oXZ8YTrezlo
youtu.be/_Fx0aJCRRpE
These are the only games I'm hyped for supposedly coming this year

Maybe Kojimas shit. The media is kissing his ass all the time.

PLAY THE SONG, VERSO

Why are the graphics so good here? Is it the grayscale giving it a sort of texture? Is it a straight up different engine like I assume the scene where Sciel and Lune gommage is?

prerendered cutscene

he hasn't seen the sexy new preview footage

Suffering builds character

It's prerendered and not in-engine, thus the hair doesn't annoyingly shimmer like crazy.

So do we ever see more of the world outside of the painting? I dont really understand what lead to mom and dad fighting inside a virtual world. What happened in real life to cause them to do that aside from Alicia being burnt.

Yeah things like DS2, Nightreign and Yotei will get journos probably sucking it off, but this combined journos + fan praise I don't think will be rivaled for this year
but maybe something surprises I suppose

It only gets worse from there.

made by ex-UBisoft devs

How about an anime game made by:

ex-mihoyo devs

?

can someone post the Lune deathstare to compliment this one please

How the FUCK do you play the whole game and not understand the whole crux of the issue yet?

kinda impressive 2 weeks after release

Damn bro I think I saw you in another thread. Hoping you’re wrong.

The fuck is Siege and the Sandfox or Hell is Us?

3 of the 33 devs were ex-Ubisoft.

made by ex-UBisoft devs

While most of the team are first-time developers, Broche worked on big-budget games under France’s biggest games publisher, Ubisoft. But Sandfall Interactive, which Broche started with fellow Ubisoft alumnus Tom Guillermin, is hardly an outfit of Ubisoft “refugees,” as some have incorrectly noted. Broche stresses that only three employees come from the company.

“That’s three people out of 33, exactly 10 percent, so, no, we are not all veterans of the industry, and most of the team are junior people. It’s a very, very young team,” Broche said. (It’s also worth noting that the studio received support from hundreds of outsourced developers and artists, including the ones performing Testard’s exquisite score.)

Broche and Guillermin also quelled reports that the game will receive additional content. Those reports stemmed from an Instagram message Svedberg-Yen sent to a fan. She says it was taken out of context, and Broche said the studio is focused now on making improvements to the current game.

Genocide is bad, but I don't care

Based

I just got to the part where Gustave dies and my will to play is dropping fast, he was my favourite character idgaf about veso

I expect none of those to be any good. But E33 surprised me, so I'm a little more hopeful now

Anon Babble only interacts with itself via the catalog which is a veritable repository for headlines. That’s how you get people into threads. Rarely can you communicate nuance in order to get someone in over a thread with an inflammatory statement. Even if yours is good or fine, it has to compete against everything else.
Blame the retards here that enjoy and feel comfortable with being upset.

I felt the same for a moment there, but it's worth it to continue

youtu.be/_Fx0aJCRRpE

Verso, Sciel, and Maelle literally delete everything with ease. There is no challenge in Act 3 whatsoever.

Which other games managed to do this for you, anons?
For me:

Chrono Trigger (first played snes version on emu)

Tales of the Abyss (PS2 native, on co-op)

On expert? Do the endless tower, there is plenty of challenge there. Even the one shot shit requires a lot of setup where failed dodges can do a ton of damage

Or just do NG+ if you're so overleveled

It should just be a sitcom of Esquie and François getting into bullshit

Kill yourself. Gustave deserves a satisfying ending. The whole beginning with Sophie is completely pointless and just a red herring. He means nothing in the grand scheme. Might as well have never made him a character.

Siege and the Sandfox

thats an indie stealth game from looking on steam now.

Hell is Us

this is a new game from i think some people who worked on the modern deus ex games and the protagonist is voiced by the same guy who voiced Adam Jensen. Art director guy is definitely the Deus Ex art guy too. He also said its NOT a souls like game in several interviews just in case it might look like that in this trailer.
youtu.be/yMcqTSPjEak

>Tales of the Abyss (PS2 native, on co-op)

my nigga

Flying around the map in act 3 seeing what content i can actually do at level 45 or so

That isolated red forest area is level 80 and i thought i was just bad at the game

Not having any indication of enemy level except for "danger" is retarded but whatever ill go to another area

What were some moments that made you genuinely laugh? For me it's picrel during Visages end scene

I always co-op Tales with my bro. Except Legendia and the portables, of course.
We're getting a TotA port or remaster, right? RIGHT? It's going to be the 20th anniversary soon...

They won't. They are too braindead and ignorant to do that

The password

François uses the most powerful ice attack ever

Verso the magician

Monoco crying after overdoing it at Old Lumière

whats the fastest way to farm lumina points, im sick of simons bullshit

Everybody else is complaining about things getting too easy in act 3.

Have you cashed in your expedition journals?

How long do I have to wait until I'm allowed to enjoy this game, great spiritual jannie of Anon Babble?

Write down your act3 start stats (take a pic)

Before doing final boss, use respec and buff yourself to a comparable point

Take out the damage cap lumina

That should help. You might want to keep a secondary weapon that's not maxed out for each character so you can use that, too.

Why yes I was part of Expedition 60, how could you tell?

Maelle ending is ripe for a DLC where Gustave fixes everything

A sense for beauty? Not old enough to have caught a glimpse of death on the horizon? Shit taste, because I like the game which means it's objectively great and everybody who doesn't like it is the devil?

FF17
I think E33 will be a stark reminder that they have to push the boundaries of story and setting like they used to and not just throw money at good visuals

FF17 wont be until at least 2030

I would've liked a side story with other expeditions, but that's okay too. Milking it too much would dilute the IP.

E33 is her debut as a writer

Damn. Not bad.

The only DLC I could imagine would be a "Gustave survives and finds a convoluted happy ending" alternate route. Which I would enjoy, even if it would make things feel a bit cheap.

you can do millions of damage straight after Paintress, level is just a number

Ok well what is Monoco and Verso's best weapons?

while her face is literally melting away

Anon, that's clearly not what this means.

its objectively the bad ending

Anybody who thinks that there is a clear answer to which ending is bad is a brainlet.

I fucked up sorry, I was trying to show off

Watch pic related to fill the void
it's basically the same plot

He wasn't an unfeeling mary sue. It's like women who get mad if a female character isn't a perfect girlboss or if some nog has any flaw whatsoever.

You too.

This. If it wasn't for the plugins and stuff they used, after all these years they could MAYBE make a small dungeon and with 3 jank characters.

Renoir's drafts.
The mobs at the end, Creations. drop 2 per fight. The Gestral merchant drops 1 per fight too and can be spammed.

In Act 3 if I do the three companion quests and go to Lumiere can I leave back to open world to do more side shit at any time or does it kinda locks you in there?

And it will be action slop. Maybe even open world.

Sega took care of the physical release in Japan

Can't wait for Clair Obscur: Arena.

People weren't lying when they said this has the same themes as elden ring then

Being a bouncer is WEEEEEEEEEEEEE, erasing everything is WOOOOOOOOOOO.

You can leave at anytime. Even finishing the game doesnt force you into NG+. Its like Darksouls where you have to go to the rest point to activate NG+.

I fucking hate video games

You can teleport out from an expedition flag just like any other map. You can even beat the game and it'll take you back to the last checkpoint.

this man believed in his daughter more than she believed in herself

It's just final fantasy 27

sick

You now that part that explicitly spell it out while being the full focus of the scene? That part explains it.

They dont need to make DLC they have to fix some enemy telegraphs and projectiles to be more visible since not all of them have a sound cue.

The guys who can turn their sword into fire or ice have an easy ass phase when its just the fire sword. When they use the ice sword theres no start up and barely a noise.

Endless tower gave me a lot of trouble. I didn't optimize verso very well, so after maelle dies. It's just a verso solo doing shitty damage but invincible. I fucking hate eveques, the party's aren't hard. Just their alternating invulnerable gimmick and then being immune to most shit is annoying as fuck.

On Verso I used the one that bases his rank on his hp. Make him 1hp, use phantom stars or berserk slash for millions of damage. For support Verso it's the one that gives his rank bonuses to allies.
For Monoco it's either the one that starts him in Almighty or the one that spins the wheel in free aim. I didn't use Monoco much.

Alright wheres the almighty staff then cause i havent found it yet

this interview is probably a beacon of hope for /agdg/

I don't think humans would stop being humans if you could convert them into energy and back.
Because energy.

People like you are worthless
People like you got Radahn (both) nerfed
Just turn it on easy instead of ruining my game you little mimic bleed using faggot

why did the white haired man kill gustave, but never anyone else when he clearly had the chance multiple times?

just finished it, it's mid. glad I'm done with it, never again. I want to get fucked by Verso though

Radahn in Erdtree 100% needed to be fucking nerfed not base game Radahn. Meanwhile Melania is untouched when waterfowl is a bullshit move.

Yeah man I don't understand either. I also don't understand why people are disappearing. Are Verso Gustave and Renoir the same person but time traveling? Didn't play the game but I doubt it explains anything BTW I'm sure you're the same

Radahn needed to be nerfed because he was a trash boss fight that was only acceptable on turtle builds.
And yes I beat him pre-nerf.

Deluxe edition bonus

Average souls fan when you tell them that Sekiro movesets dont work in Elden Ring and they get mad for calling it out.

crying about malenia 2 years later

So you agreed that you're this awful
kill yourself and play on story mode faggot, stop ruining my games

dunno lol

The utter horror of not wiping out an entire world full of sentient beings and having to play the piano. Truly an ending as dark as my heart.

honestly this game stands well enough on its own legs already. I'd rather them just get straight to work on a sequel or something else entirely

He's right tho. Play on the easier modes instead of crying that the harder modes are too hard for your whittle baby reaction times. That's why they're there. Expert is way too easy already.

I like monocos weapon that starts him in caster mode. Versos is Simon before that probably the buff one if he's in a party, the one that stacks fire if you are solo.

Kek this post rustling some jimmies

I want to get fucked by Verso though

we know, Sciel

Nobody is allowed to criticize any timings or animations of any move with parrying in it cause retards like you think its a skill issue and not "maybe this attack just sucks". Radahn in erdtree had no fucking tell for his double sword swing it was frame 1.

German movie subsidies are so absurd that the primary audience for German movies are the subsidy bureaucrats. Which doesn't lead to good movies for some reason.