[Sad News] ZZZ underperforms, Hoyoverse seeks growth from AI

Zenless Zone Zero has not performed to Hoyoverse's expectations due to it's games cannibalizing each other and old games overshadowing the new. The userbase for for Hoyo's games has plateaued and there seems to be no more growth in these big budget gacha games, pretty much everyone who is ever going to play them is already locked in to their favorites.
Hoyoverse is now seeking new sources of rapid growth, and is looking at AI.

archive.is/H9vs7

Blud is posting ai slop articles to say “gacha bad”

Bernice is a coal burner

No your mom is though

Just make an offline single player game, a game has to end at some point.

That's good news, fuck gachashit and fuck every single gachanigger on this planet.
Let's hope the EU does something good for once and restrics this gambling bullshit, which will further cut into theri profits.

They are disappointed because they are not making exponentially more billions every year any more, single player games can't ever match those expectations.

Thats what happens when your gacha contains male characters and even worse, male furfag characters.

but the male banners in Genshin made bank

Don’t care, I won’t play a gacha where there is a possibly of pulling some gay dude character. Make a gacha with nothing but guy characters for roastoids and fags.

Burnice is a lesbian furry

ZZZ also dropped like a rock because it appealed to people who like good games, which is antithetical to gacha.

make literally billions from genshit

think they now can print money with more releases

over-saturate the market with slop

Add auto for farming

the only zzz or genshin threads the mods allow are shitpost ones that make up bad things

"ZZZ? Why's it called that?"
"Because that's the sound you make when you play it!"
"DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!"

Mihoyo is retarded. They keep shitting out more slop games despite irrefutable proof that the market cannot sustain them, and they're cannibalising their own audience.

They keep shitting out more games, but the target audience has already reached it's limit, profits are not only NOT going up, they're going down because people have jewhoyo fatigue, but your costs keep going up astronomically because now you have to maintain 4 (soon to be 6) games

Typical corpo arrogance after a success.

cris stop posting

make the first game with interesting characters like robot, literal bear, blue skinned oni, and a furry

ditch all that to shove the game with slop that's already flooding the rest of the gacha market (bet pulchra only became playable after they saw people thirsting for her)

good, let it die

company announces a game

tries to sell it as a legitimate experience

"our game is available on iOS-"

You have to acknowledge the fact that their releases pay for themselves and bring in MASSIVE profits though, and they are works of art the devs want to make, so it's not all bad.
Would be nice if they just made some single player games and pumped those out though, and put all their money into genshin.

There's been a handful of good mobile games over the last 20 years.
ZZZ is not one of them, sadly.

Zenless Zone Zero, its most recent foray, did not perform on par with the company’s expectations, according to two people with knowledge of the company. In its launch quarter, it earned less than half its anime predecessors’ opening quarter revenue, according to Sensor Tower

Who are these people with "knowledge" of the company? I have "knowledge" of mihoyo too lmao
In other words it's pure conjecture equivalent to "political analyst says clinton will win by a landslide". Also,

sensor tower

I'd soonee trust someone who says his uncle works at Nintendo.

babby reads headline and posts clickbait article by "journalist" on Anon Babble for (You)s

OP, as always, is a faggot

Should had put out the loli streamers and also made that furry girl a S character

Okay maybe they weren't kidding about 1 + 1 + 1 < 1

Do they?
Jewhoyo spends 500 million annually just to shill genshin. Not even short rail or zee. Just genshin.
It's always funny when retards think revenue equals profit

They're obviously not going broke, but they're also not earning the billions you tards seem to think they do

ZZZ did not perform to expectations

said some guy from Sensor Tower

claim dismissed

This game basically alienated the initial playerbase both through design and gameplay.
They have yet to clarify the direction the game would take after the death of TVs, and looking at the season 2 trailer, they might have also realized that spamming hags when the game started with an overwhelming majority of lolis and out of the box designs might not have been the best of idea.

Works of art

Bootleg inferior Nintendo games

Lol.
I don't think jewhoyo has ever had an original idea

ughh,,, my AGP

I hope all gachatroons die immediately

Are you saying this thread was made with intent to discuss the game, because otherwise if it was in good light it would be deleted? You have a point.
That said, I do think that ZZZ is lacking, can't put my finger on it, but I was playing today and realized I had more fatigue towards it than other two games, despite liking ZZZ more.
Everything they add just seems lackluster and not enough. I do enjoy Wuwa lately though...

the direction the game would take after the death of TVs

Anyone who speaks positively of TVs outs themselves as disingenuous non-players attempting to pollute any discussion of the game.

no matter what they change or introduce characters it just can't stabilize. I'm starting to think the combat is actually the problem.

archive.is/H9vs7

The company’s spokesperson declined to comment for this article, saying only that it contained several inaccuracies and unverified claims, without specifying or elaborating.

this is the only thing worth reading in the article

your iq is less than your age if you dont think they have insane profit margins

ZZZ is, and alaways be, a hag game.

Which Nintendo games did they copy with ZZZ, HSR and HI?

nigga they make at least 100m a MONTH with their 3 games and they are still expanding

cool retro/urban/post-apocal cyberpunk aesthetic

"I know what we need more of, Wushu and China's aesthetic!

Half of HSR slop designs could fit Genshin and now they their only distinct game is getting fantasy slop for 2.0.

Hag game

Picture with 1-2 hags

Dishonest

ends up killing genshin

Bravo Mihoyo

Honestly they gave you most of their best designs for free

You are off by a bit there. Maybe 100m on mobile, but topping up in Genshin is more expensive on mobile in JP so most there top up on PC. Furina’s banner in 4.2 was something like $250m total across all platforms or something insane like that.

Anyway Hoyo probably makes about $300m a month at least off all their games.

all have big tits and asses

Hag model.
Lucy is not a hag despite having similar age.

Add furryshit to game

Game flops

WOW
WHO COULD HAVE EVER SEEN THIS COMING

This, but switch it to anyone who dislikes TVs.

Do you think the game would have way more success if it had a Spiderman city but anime? Like you know that mugen game or whatever.

Right? Don't need other people to tell you that gacha is bad. Pretty obvious it is.

How much is the upkeep on these games exactly? For a mobile game where characters stand still and dialogue dump each other before fighting 5 enemies in a small room reused from 8 patches ago and backpedal away to pad it out, one would think making millions monthly is still a profit.

fuck off

The problem is that TV looked nothing like on the image, it would often involve clicking without any curios and you getting stopped so character can say some marvel quip and after 5 seconds of silence you could move.
The example on the left was from Hollow Zero, which was fine desu, also the last mode they added was pretty fun too.

it would often involve clicking without any curios and you getting stopped

Yes, retard. Glad you realize the actual problem that they had. A problem they could easily have fixed.
Instead, retards kept screeching "durr remove TVs hurr!" and now it's all gone. The central theme tossed into the trash and replaced with fucking nothing.

Maybe they should've worked harder on that mode, so retard wouldn't scream about TV, retard. Even after soft reboot, making it faster and such it was a dogshit mess.
What they should've done is add bunch of proper mini-game inside TV, and interesting interactive screens and backgrounds, that would properly represent where you are right now.
If you were breaking into Ballet twins, the screens and backgrounds should represent background rooms and such, instead of just the same boring background. That problem occured to me when I was doing one of the last TV missions added in SoC update, where you were mining something underground, but the background was sandy. Presentation matters a lot.

What do you mean that ellen sucking your dick after you put in 1234 as the password that lycaon told you isn't a replacement

Hoyo said in the past they spend 200m a year total on Genshin upkeep and development. They probably don’t spend that much on the other games since they aren’t open world. Even if it the same though, that would be 600m a year for three games that are all making probably anywhere from 100-300m a month. Probably more.

They gave up on this too in 1.7.
You are pretty much back to playing the agents while... neither Eous or your character follows along or interact with anything.

For Genshin it's 200M a year
Considering the other games I'd say it's 600M total
Add to that ToT and HI3rd and other unreleased games and it might reach 1B a year
But if revenue is 4-6B a year then it's amazing

zzz is toaster unfriendly unlike the other two games

I can feel this picture

Also, you are blaming retards for complaining about a game mode that clearly executed poorly, which you agree with, but you should blame devs that didn't believe in their product and decided to scrap it, after they scratched their head and realized they are too dumb to properly implement it.

It's true

Wew lad.

you should blame devs that didn't believe in their product and decided to scrap it

I blame them as well. Way to waste potential, Hoyo.

Ice is the opposite of coal, thoughever

emotionally invested and conditioned cattle of oyohim
sad to see

the content creators I watch always tell me to not spend money on this shit game

calling them mobile games won't change the fact that they are more complex than triple a games

Are these people actually retarded?
Do they not understand that perpetual growth is not possible?

Of course, I agree, the whole game is a wasted potential, I genuinely want it to do better and be better, but instead it stuck in this limbo, not being shit enough but also not being good enough. Or rather, interesting designs and ideas with abhorrent execution.
I'd scrap the game and rework it completely, while keeping the designs and certain ideas, but they won't do that, since it still brings moneys and it would mean they are admit it's a flopwhich it isn't, but compared to their other titles it kind of is

according to Sensor Tower

lmao

Seriously what happened to the designs??
They had this cool thing about mixing city themes with sub-cultures but after section 6 it all went to the shitter
Why the fuck did they fire that Loli guy I forgot the name

two people with knowledge of the company.

The fuck does that mean, genuinely? I have knowledge of the company.

they are admit

and a bunch of other mistakes

I'm an indian today saaars, bear with me.

They should make an actual game next time.

Our whole economy is bulit on the idea that perpetual growth is possible.

Don't hate a player.

make multiple games that require you to log in daily for rewards

have limited time events that if you miss the rewards for they'll never come back

people either pick one game over the others, or stop playing entirely

They are fucking retards

ZZZ does dogshit at launch

try to appeal to a more western market with more urban environments clearly reminiscent of tokyo and nyc

they largely fix a ton of issues with the game

does better

clearly still not meeting expectations

forcing the story to go to chinkslop land for an entire year to appeal to the chinese market more

So much for the unique animation and artstyle.

ZZZ does dogshit at launch

stopped reading there, you're retarded

people either pick one game over the others, or stop playing entirely

That's the entire point.
Why do you think certain games in the series have unique QoL or end game or story elements to them that make no logical sense to not include in all 3 versions of the game? The reason is because they want to keep you in their sphere of influence and connected to at least 1 of their games. People who play multiple are just a bonus to them. "Fuck Genshin for lack of end game and QoL changes, I'm going to HSR that has that" etc, if every game filled every niche people would just play 1 and then quit instead of trying a different one. At least that's the philosophy.

Why are gacha fags (as in people who play more than 1 gacha) are so obsessed with sales?

ZZZ underperformed so severely after it's launch patch that they outright removed an entire aspect of the game that was a huge part of the marketing appeal to them, as well as overhauled how the entire combat system works.

or stop playing entirely

yeah Im honestly done with all the fomo daily chores
Im not signing up for a second job

Don't worry X|SISTERS are coming in two months

because they don't like any sports, they don't follow politics, so they pick sides that way.
I think numbers are interesting, but Ill never understand tribalfagging

Because if their gacha does badly it will be shut down, robbimg them of their """"achievments""""

/zzz/ is the only mihoyo general that stayed on 8c after Anon Babble came back

the thread on Anon Babble is unironically dead

why is that?

think why people care about anything being successful

after it's launch

retarded goalpost mover

I mean, woe is me, that game is selling 1 million less than that other game despite apparently being on the top 10 anyway?

They removed tv mode because of CBT2 niggers, it was already planned before launch

Years of data of mmos flooding the market and tanking hard

Proceed to do the exact same thing for gacha slop

No sympathy for retards.

I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THE STREAMER seriously though, TV mode was quite 50/50 imo, but they didn't have to nuke the whole damn thing.

There's only before launch and after launch.

Because you're making shit up

I don't get it either, it's not like the game is actually dying, or EoS after getting "only" 2 million(in Google play/Apple store).
I do think it is a metric in a way, as to how devs did and performed in that specific month.
Like HSRs 100 mil, it's not out of nowhere, it was because of the fomo paypig strategy, which paid off.
Or seeing the game I don't know anything about being way lower than usual, it sparks my curiosity as to why that happens, but my skin doesn't suddenly turn brown and I don't have the urge to shit up discussions about other games, or bring them up everywhere.

Is definitely better than fucking nothing
Christ can't wait for them to just copy tribe nine where instead of tv mode is 8bit scroller slop(literally the same thing)

Hoyo doesn’t care. Their goal is to capture and hold as much of the market as possible by releasing games that fit different niches.

in the month OF launch had the biggest revenue of all gacha games, as much as the next 3 games COMBINED
this is apparently a dogshit launch according to retards

I mean yeah, but I think the game will do fine even if it has lower sales. I mean c'mon, they are treating entering buildings without loading time as a revolution, it so obvious they don't have a lot in terms of budget nor skills to begin with lmao

releasing games that fit different niches

Explain 2.0 going for the same bland China fantasyslop.

Or the worst part of all the writing, which takes hours and hours to sit through since they're adamant about not letting you skip any part of the text diarrhea

Take a look at the threads my dude, /zzz/ has been deader than it has ever been
weirdly enough /hsrg/ and /gig/ are fine

Good point, most of the moneys spent are on marketing and not the maintenance of the game itself.

They removed because simply they are a bunch of incompetent hacks, plain and simple, they didn't know how to improve it so they nuked the whole thing
Also gotta love how Mihomo keeps pumping money into this shit despite not doing shit, I remember how they announced it, it stayed radio silent until launch and then they pumped millions in ad just to create all this artificial hype that died in like a week after launch

If you guys are sick of Zenless Zone Zero, you can always try out Wizardry Variants Daphne.

I saw someone saying in /wuwa/ or /nikg/ that they got targeted by some discord raiders, and mods on Anon Babble don't deal with any of that, they only delete cropped lewd images and that's it. Which is sad desu

filler patches at the end of the version have less things to talk about

somehow this is too hard for retards to realize

Zenless Zone Zero has not performed to Hoyoverse's expectations

Statements literally made up by a journo

because it gets shitposted in all fronts and 4cuck moderation is useless

I would have liked the TV mode if the animations and text didn't slow it down

The poor trolls who used to fuck with the /zzz/ threads are suffering a drown after many left for el 8chAVO so now they are forced to leak their tiny clits over at Anon Babble just to get a crump of the (you)s they used to get

Fuck this anon economy Anon Babbleros it is hard to be an honest troll nowadays
hey is too proud(and too deep in his trollsona) to admit that nigga. hell, faggots on /gig/ have dropped any pretense of discussing the game for all on war between each other now. IDs really made them feral

Couple posts a minute is not a dead general. Dead general is a general bumped by one guy every 2 hours

Setting isn’t a niche. ZZZ is still a different genre than Star Rail or Genshin. They also have that Pokemon like game coming and that Animal Crossing like one we know is in development.

maybe they should start making real games with no gacha bullshit for a change

Most left to 4+4moe

hey is too proud(and too deep in his trollsona) to admit that nigga

Yeah I'm just trolling you by refusing to admit that a general with 400 posts in 3 hours is "unironically dead". I'm silly like that
Probably because it's not, that would be my guess

They make 150 million dollars a month bud, they don't need your advice

There's untold trillions of dollars invested in the myth of line that always goes up. if too many people stop believing, modern capitalism is over.

/zzz/ is one general that actually did swap websites
i'm surprised every gacha general didn't when they felt a fresh breath of air from the samefagging schizophrenics

holy retard
he was obviously talking about gameplay
one is story exploration game, other is jrpg, this one is action

It would be good if they actually did something to improve the experience, TV unnironically felt like padding content

None of those are hags

there are people who actually tried out ZZZ after having played HSR

I can understand people who tried out HSR after Genshin, but really, playing ZZZ after they made that steaming pile of shit?

Wuwa did too as far as I know, the one that came back are either newfaggots or the shitposting cucks that couldn't do their thing with IDs
I think girls Frontline also stayed there

I do miss a working /gig/...
weirdly enough /hsrg/ was completely dead over there.
Were all of /hsrg/'s posters samefags?

Yeah is much better now, I love black screens of infinite context and waiting for the voiced dialogue with really long pauses

keeps denying it

yep told you. too proud and too reckless
they even have a link in their rentry as a "schizo free" and seeing that thread I can see only doomers and shitposters remain
a few did. mostly those that have schizos that have proxies. I don't think i saw /lolg/ move out DESPITE the fact their schizo actually sits 24/7 posting shitdick. which confirms my theory that only the schizo remains bumping his obsession just like that weirdo that just wanted to post his shitty drawing in the dwarf fortress general(they didn't deserve that faggot RIP)

They're completely unrelated games made by different Hoyo teams. Hoyo is a huge company

I can't muster much hate for gacha since that's clearly where the dogshit world economy is going since there's no boundless profit in making the world a better place to live in. We had lots of heathens gambling on who the next pope will be, we're a doomed species and we do not deserve absolution.

However if there was a gacha that had Hoyo graphics and FGO story I would play it daily as we all descend into hell.

HSR is going to have an FGO crossover with Nasu written canon story so there you go

blue archive did too, though their thread schizo followed them. the admins on 8 actually did something about him tho, lol

enjoy grinding in your shitty games no content

I don't need to give these niggas a red cent to goon to Burnice

Schizos are just fucking obnoxious and I can't understand why they can't hate something they hate instead of samefagging all day lmao

Grace buff pls? I am like the only guy to like her so...

Just cause it sells means it's good

Do you also eat McDonald's everyday cause it's the biggest fast food joint in the world and praises EA for making billions in FIFA with their loot box shit?

they also did codemonkey magic which made even easier to filter him thanks to IDs
he has begun to spam child models. god they really got a fucking schizo

I don't think i saw /lolg/ move out DESPITE the fact their schizo actually sits 24/7 posting shitdick

i haven't been on /lolg/ for eons now, but last I remember everyone I knew from there used a regex filter that caught literally all of his posts
eightie actually had its own original schizo that got woken from his slumber when the flood of new people during the downtime came over
the admins sort of waited until he ran out of money/proxies and most of the damage he tried to cause was negated by a single Anon Babble anon that shat out a script that would blur 1 ID poster pictures

god i sure love the mentally ill

go to spinoff site

general is quite literally exactly the same autistic ritual posters except 10x the amount of porn

nah

Holy flopperoni

Make a Chinese game with black rap music and nigger asses to pander to the west

Chinese devs:noooo why did it flop

LMAO
Is like they didn't get the memo that garbage like nikke or brown dust flopped in china because of the same reason

honestly if they didn't have the 5 images per post shit i would've 100% stayed

Hoyoverse is now seeking new sources of rapid growth, and is looking at AI.

I'm a former gachafag, there's really no reason to play these games once you have a handle on stable diffusion. It's more fun making my own OCs, playing dress up, and writing stories for them.

Leifa did a deep dive on YX and dear god, she got big gameplays.

they ban shitdick losers and doomer samefaggers are scared shitless of posting
nah nig. it is better and they fact they kept in their rentry to post it whenever the thread gets bad is proof of that

Cope and seethe

ZZZ is unironically one of the most directionless projects i have seen in gacha.

half way through 1.4ish decide to change how battles worked

the original appeal for the game was rejected by jewtubers who wanted more point a-point b slop

the over haul of the battle system makes most older characters shit

game taken over by paragraph slop like every other mihomo game

Fucking hell.

Once the spineless devs start being honest with their customers, maybe then the game could actually grow.

I noticed in my generals 4chink there are generally less schizos, and the ones that stayed are easy to spot. It's usually one guy doing the heavy lifting, I wonder why that is.
Especially how the first few days everyone would complain about schizos and how we should all move back to 4+4 despite threads being pretty clean, aside from the said complaining.
It was especially apparent with /bag/

normal discussion going

UHH GUYS I CANT TAKE IT SO MANY SCHIZOS BRING BACK 8MOE x10

WOW YOU DONT LIKE ME CRYING AND SHITTING UP THE THREAD? YOU MUST BE A SHITPOSTER

I don't know why they got so desperate after Anon Babble got back up. I've noticed across few generals that weird outburst, even in one of my games guildy started shitting up with his site wars, saying how much his site is much better, despite being in 4chink guild. Very weird individuals.

1.0 was so perfect.. I hate faggotubers so much

ZZZ only made $300 million while their other games made $500 million this quarter!

it's a failure!

I actually think they are oversaturating their own market. But it's clearly still making a profit.

1.0 was so perfect

It wasn't you're delusional

Why do they need to continue growing? Going stable is not good?

It's the opposite of what stockholders want to hear.

spend money on always on-line casino

everything you bought is wiped once it end of services

Going stable

That would mean not producing new games, which clearly isn't their intent.

Is that a Chinese shark?

EoS when?

Aren't they state owned

Didn't ZZZ have some of the worst microtransactions ever? That's why I never touched it.

AAAHHH, ZZZ IS FLOPPING, EOS SOON

Me: Oh, Yixuan can parry out of her uppercut, that's rad.

did they ever hint that the proxies were some sort of fucking chosen ones and shit before Miyabis patch? Am I memory holing something? At the start it was just Euos that made them anything special (at least I thought)

Depends if you think Genshin has the worst microtransactions ever, because they are exactly the same.

pretty much everyone who is ever going to play them is already locked in to their favorites.

Sounds like they are running into the same problem that MMO's have. A new one comes out but no one cares really because everyone is already playing their MMO of choice for years now and they are not gonna just drop all of that time/effort for a new game.

the fact that one of the 4 super AIs connected with and immediately accepted them as masters?

Ten roll cost thirty burger shekels which is a full tank of gas or a week's worth of groceries

It really is just a time sink game desu

What's her problem?

Anyone who speaks positively of TVs outs themselves as disingenuous non-players

The game was making more money during the TV-era you schmuck.It flop so hard the game is undertaking a 3rd soft- relauch by now

I never thought too much of it. I thought we just gave it a home and it was just alright then.

For Genshin it's 200M a year

It was 200 million in 2021. Now the cost must have only increased but according to pic related Hoyo made like 6 billion in 2024 so they are definitely ok lmao

However if there was a gacha that had Hoyo graphics and FGO story

HSR. They are doing a fate collab. Archer is given for free July 11

Yeah I'm sure ZZZ will be totally dead by this time next year.
Totally, for sure.

does anby grande need jufufu?

Meh, everyone collabed with Fate, even Battle Cats.

What are they spending their money on? Subway and billboard ads?

The nuclear reactor.

I don't recognize any character in that image, not a single one.

How is this relevant for people playing videogames.

Nyes. Just use your 2.0 free option on the tiger loli sis.

ZZZ just hasn't had a hit waifu since Jane Doe. I don't even like Jane Doe but she is very popular. None of the new girls reach those heights.

They are making life better for people and their workers and like said they are unironically making a reactor

Astra and Evelyn get a fair amount of fanart.

your 2.0 free option

there's gonna be a free 5*?

Yes, but of the regular channel S roster.

makes bazillions

underperforms

eh?

Not knowing Uzaki, Satania, or even Midori

What are you, a faggot?

Reddit spacing

Probably.

Free S11

Nice, a new mindscape for my wife.

Who?

We are on a videogame board, get your tranny shit elsewhere.

Mihoyo should realize they have already cornered the market in AI designed asymmetrically designed safe horny Chinese dresses and word vomit exposition
Trying to actually do something with a modicum of story direction like Arknights or Limbus or actual good character design like GFL or Blue Archive is pointless since they're too limited in their design philosophy and people will only want and expect of them their pegi 12 anime slop

they wasted money on a expensive VA this is what will bring back players!!

not the gameplay overhaul

not the battle system overhaul

not the dating sim (that sucks lol)

Cool, I'm glad that a state owned enterprise can just dictate their funds the way they please instead of focusing on their bottom line and actually delivering on their promises

Rupture Anton is coming. Be careful who you are calling a brick at school.

to power the AI waifus

Maybe because you don't have to draw a hyper complex maid dress for people to see 'oh it's Ellen by her pouty look and gigantic shark butt'
Mihoyo should learn that a few distinctive features is better than overloading a character with accessories and clashing colors like in Star rail and Genshin

The eye implants were shown and mentioned repeatedly in the first three chapters.

So, after two since she's been out, is she worth rolling? I quite like anomaly, and heard she's Ether Burnice, and she was a good roll.
I have to plan my shit a bit, I heard the next notVoidHunter is the very next patch, is that right? Also there's the cute tiger I'll probably want.

It really is just a time sink game desu

Well yeah, what the fuck did you think it was?

I dunno, do you like your anomalies?

FFXIV Mobile looks like it has a chance at capturing the FFXIV players that are fed up with how mismanaged FFXIV is.

Poor mindbroken redditfag.

Muh tranny

too obvious

Angels of Delusion are the last remaining designs from the OG concept art. It's all downhill from there.

Doesn't Nasu serve more as a overseer for the story/lore?

eat slop

Surprised you're being treated like cattle

They don't call it tranime for nothing, tranny.

Yeah, it was foreshadowed a bunch of times beforehand, but I wouldn't tell you what it exactly was, because I don't remember, just have a mental note of it.

I fucking wish gacha would die out, however this is a distant dream.
Too many braindead coomers with gambling addictions for that to happen though.

Most of the tv modes are actually shit

That’s a shame.
Of all the Hoyo games ZZZ is by far the best one.

Article cites fucking sensor tower

Ok yeah it’s bullshit

I tried playing it on my smartphone and it was horrible
Is it better on PC?

GFL2 really killed it with its character designs and animations, it's not your usual overly designed chinksloppa sci fi dresses, a shame that the game is boring and barebones as fuck though.

Yeah, way better.
It’s dog shit on mobile.
Sales charts even seem to reflect this. It’s consistently really high on the Playstation sales charts but does poorly on mobile.

It's not even that, the problem is that they don't offer anything better when it comes to dealing with gacha/mmo, yeah different story, different characters, but you still have to do dailies, you still lose 50/50, you still get 80 pulls per patch, you still have to grind events etc.
2D gachas kind of reinvented it, it's funny, realizing that half the time I enjoy more BD2 f2p where I can pull anything I want without a worry than a dolphin ZZZ, where I'm 25 pulls away from Vivian and 5 days left, despite the highs of gameplay and animation.
Also gooks do better story where I'm actually interested even when it's sloppiest shittiest thing they just produced since launch

It's a combat game so of course.

I can't understand playing this on a phone screen.

Is it better on PC?

Its way better, especially on a controller. You even get to freely rotate between the left and right teammates, something you can't do on mobile.

Gachas in general have terrible terrible terrible gacha currency to real money conversion rate. Even for mobile card games.

Why does this game have all its girls looking like they're made of plastic

Its a pc/console gacha for sure.

You can, it's in the settings somewhere, where you can swipe left to rotate.

well for one, they are synthetic robots after all

And it's one of those small little things, but with the vibrations on a controller it feels so fucking GOOD when you muilti-pary a boss until the screen goes black and white the controller rumbling like crazy in your hand. it just FEELS like you're over there on the battlefield.

Yep, the game is barebones.
I find GFL2 graphics trying too hard though, fingers and feet are too detailed, but not detailed enough to look good, so they have this low quality wrinkly look or pixelated toe nails, unlike say Snowbreak that leans into anime aspect more. I'd rather take soft smooth looking fingers and feet without wrinkles than overly detailed but noticeably pixelated/blurry skin. But iirc Snowbreak's gameplay is also shit.

ZZZ is safehorny while pretending to be horny. Of course it flopped.

Ah. Well that's pretty cool I guess. Still better on PC.

GF2 it's not your usual overly designed chinksloppa

Post generic over designed chinksloppa

I see

ZZZ just fucking sucks bro, I like the designs and they brang me in but the gameplay is genuinely dogshit and boring, i cant bring myself to grind or anything because its just fucking boring uninteresting and takes too long where as in genshin atleast even if i get bored of fighting the fights dont take that fucking long.

The problem with genshin is that you are gonna be spending collecting flowers that time you are fighting in ZZZ, I prefer ZZZ fighting, Genshin has other problems, imo it should have better dodging because most of the time enemies aren't built with dodge in mind, and the game just turns into "you need healer/shielders" unless you are some ultra instinct chinese that grinds every enemy for 10 hours studying their incorrect timings.

Genshin's fighting is shit. But ZZZ only has fighting going on, which makes it even more tiresome than Genshin, but farming isn't one of them, I'd rather farm 10 characters in ZZZ/HSR than 2 in Genshin.

ZZZ as a whole just has a boring art design/atheistic. And many of the playable characters look like they'd fit as NPCs. It's an odd design choice after they had two previous games with massively overdesigned characters and then one more with a nice balance of grounded fantasy and silly fantasy.

i only play this every 2 weeks for the expansion drill bosses
everything else is autoable

Does anyone have that one clip where they're showing off the Lucy model?

I'd rather farm 10 characters in ZZZ/HSR than 2 in Genshin.

So true.
I went back to Genshin recently and had forgotten about the entire “collect 167 plants to level up your character” bullshit that the later games got rid of.
It’s so tedious, you can’t even do it all in one go either since the map often doesn’t have enough of the material available.

fucking boring uninteresting and takes too long

Are we playing the same game? It takes less than a minute to clear dailies

ZZZ is the only Hoyoverse game I've ever actually tried. I dropped it a few patches ago because it felt like plot was just refusing to actually properly start. I don't know if that's the norm for these games, but every patch story felt like a filler arc.

Wuwa coasted the action gameplay audience

BA coasted the loli moege market

Nikke and azur lane coasted hot bimbo with actual coomer designs market

GFL, limbus, AK coasted the lorefag market with their own take on cute girls

anyone that played hoyo games and didn't like them won't play ZZZ either

Genshin has a deeper combat and less strict teambuilding

Star Rail is for another audience entirely

ZZZ has no niche, it's for nobody

Glad ananta will give me the anime urban fantasy open world game I wanted.

Yeah, I was grinding new chick, and just alt f4 after collecting 30 corals or whatever the fuck, and realization that I need to do it with 20 more characters makes me miserable.
Also this dog shit system with condensed resin, I have 50 small resin, but in order to efficiently use it I have to go and collect 100 butterflies and then turn it into condensed resin(5 max in the inventory), use it up, then go craft again, use it up and then go craft again x20 times on top of spending 3-5 minutes in between each craft grinding. That's atleast 2 hours of constant input. If they just got rid of condensed resin WuWa style, it would be a much better bearable game. Literally one QoL
ZZZ specifically suffered a lot, it's very directionless, chink bloated writing certainly didn't do it any favors either.

Wise has a broad forehead

Is our manager BALDING?

That's a problem with all Chinese gacha games, they regurgitate one thousand plots from the get-go and rarely go anywhere. I only know what's going on in Zenless because I skipped everything that isn't the main story

They need more Ellen joes and less furries and rejected nikkes

They got rid of TV mode to appeal to retards and the whole plot suffered

because it felt like plot was just refusing to actually properly start

Believe it or not, but of all the Hoyo games the ZZZ plot has moved the fastest by far.

loli moege

It probably has 1 big tits for 1.5 lolis, I think the correct term would be harem(hand holding) moege
Nikke isn't that coomer, AL blows it out of the water, but it has written sex in bonds and stuff like that

Genshin is notorious for filler dialogue as well. But, this isn't a defense of Hoyo, most online and even offline games these days have this same problem. They just have hundreds of hours of dialogue/cutscenes to make it seem like the game has lots of "content." Because it only takes a couple animators and one writer to create filler scenes. New gameplay or locations take hundreds of people.

TV mode is garbage 90% of time

Genshin has a deeper combat and less strict teambuilding

About that…

Hoyoverse uses AI art doe

It was better than endless fighting

Why am I fighting in this beat them up game?

Nah, that's just the most stupid complaint by far. What do you want to do, pick flowers?

The issue with it is just the amount of time the mode takes control away from you due to pop ups and dialogues

Variety is someone that all games do for a reason, even beat up ems (real ones, not shitty gacha) give you downtime

I just don't find ZZZ very fun to be honest. Solid animations and what not but all the designs are kind of samey due to CCP censorship directions.
Solid ass animations but got bored nonetheless.

I stopped playing ZZZ because it's just annoying to play now.
Dailies are more tedious
Every new boss that comes out has random invincibility moments
Trying to enjoy the story is annoying as shit because of slow dialogue text

Mocktails mixers ice

That image looks exactly like what MMOs and online games have been doing since 2006...

I agree, but TV mode was still stupid shit, I'd rather have retarded fighting over TV, not the way it was at least.
I didn't like them deleting TV either, but what we had was even worse. They are a bunch of retards that can't figure out hacker gameplay, I don't get it. In general, why do asians can't seem to get past this weird gameplay of theirs, like a mix of VN/shitty shooter/fighter, I don't know how to explain it. Like Xenoblade? I notice it with any 3D games of theirs, especially Japanese, it's like they are trying to do VN/JRPG in real time 3D game. It's like their goal is to make it work with the least amount of gameplay/features required.

Just make a porn gacha
Have the gameplay but also have it be like a dating sim where you can rail the girls at points. Just do it.

Woe is me, I stopped playing a freemium game

Now, I will complain about it on the basketweaving website

Why are half of the posters such bitches?

The story just isnt captivating like genshins lol, when i first started playing ZZZ nothing really grabbed me in like genshin did like even if you dont read most of the quest text you should be able to visually get an idea about whats going on from just seeing shit happen but that doesnt occur in ZZZ its been idk how many years and i literally have no idea what its about nor do I really give a shit bc the scope if it couldnt even be that big lol.

China

porn

how are dailies tedious? they take like 5 mins at most

Horizon Walker, here is your shitty porn game.

What do you mean?
Dailies are less tedious than fucking Star Rail and that has an auto mode

Dailies are more tedious

I drop every gacha for this
Stop dailies
stop login bonuses
juat fucking stop making the game feel like a job holy fucking shit how is it that hard to comprehend, i will play the fucking game at my own pace you double nigger chinks, fuck off with your daily fomo shit

Meanwhile in genshin I'm just playing some event quest for primos and a guy in a funny hat shows up and tells me the fucking sky is fake and its played fucking serious and now im wondering wtf??? So it captivates me and pulls me in, ZZZ is like some dumbass bitch dancing on screen or saying some cute moe bs and then i click the skip button lol.

god i need to rape this bitch

So chinks have a taste? When I look at the Hoyo stuff and recently GFL2, they all look like in offensive anime girls and build like sticcs (relatively for animu). I remember GFL1 girls having much more varied designs both in clothing/mil armor and proportions.

but thats how they get you addicted always coming back and spending money

Despite being a fan of Genshin, those kinds of interesting lore details are very few and far between. You'll go literally thousands of lines of dialogue of NPCs telling you the most boring parts of their daily life and then ask you to go fetch 3 pears for them. Then out of nowhere you meet some random NPC who starts dropping lore, which it's easy to skip through since the first 10 lines from the NPC was the usual pointless banter.

Reminds me of Nikke, when one of the most important lore drops happens in an unvoiced event the event was kino

garbage like nikke flopped

it was one of the most successful gachas in asia, #1 in Japan

Yeah but the thing about it bro is that genshin is an open world game so where it falters in boring quests it makes up for by making you feel like you can do whatever you want whenever you want, in ZZZ you have no choice but to slog through the boring bs it makes the game feel like a fucking chore. Its why they focused so hard on the sex appeal because thats all they have to distract people from the boring ass story but thats not enough.

You’re a fucking retard if you think anyone other than chinks will be playing ffxiv mobile

hoyo games have too much idolshit in it

But everything you said is wrong..
Dailies are the same as ever, none of the new bosses have invincibility periods as bad as Nineveh did and the text is easily skippable.
Are you sure you're talking about ZZZ?

Wtf, I guess I am a wuwachad now?

There are control freaks even on anonymous image boards and they also see going elsewhere as a way to be in "control". Reason why many are quick to create generals to be the first in control or finding an offshoot to be their chance at it. Then natural tribalism pushes conflict even more.

Don't even get me started on schizos who find the tiniest thing to be pissed off about. And I don't mean game criticism.

Someone disagreeing with me?

Must be xfag.

I'll spend the thread posting that xfag is ruining everything.

Sir the low quality of our games has caused a sizeable loss in players across all of our mobile games. We're also not seeing the same sustained success by creating games that inherently cannibalize each others players. What should we do to bolster activity?

We will make the games even worse by using AI to generate everything. Fire the developers. As long as we have money we're fine. Generate at least 2 more hours of words per patch.

You know years ago I didn't expect that Genshin's character visuals would look so dated already. I guess it was bound to happen given that most of them are wearing flat mesh spandex with a texture implying modeled details. Months ago when I read that they were shifting into purely AI generated development I quit logging in. These guys were highly motivated now they're just greedy retards.

It im skipping all the story text every fucking time in a not open world game theres a problem.

Porn ironically doesn't sell well enough for a project like that to work.

Niveneh

You don't have to farm Niveneh though, but Geppetto and Pompey are actually annoying as fuck with their invincibility.
I liked the new robot boss that you are supposed to parry.

moving goalposts

The complaint was about the text being slow, not bad.

Im not the person you replied to Im just saying because I read your post and your reply to part of it is all quest text is easily skippable but bro is this not a fucking game based around you following a linear story, its not fucking open world where atleast in genshin you get the illusion of being able to just do what you want you literally HAVE to do these quests to progress in ZZZ and that shit just isnt captivating at all then at that point you have to ask what is even keeping me here the button mashing combat lol?

Oh yeah, those are the worst, but there are way less schizos after resurrection, that's a fact, but because there are also less people you notice small amounts of schizos way more frequently.

The new robot boss that gets invincibility just for jumping around? Fuck that thing

Spend 6 months making Eos pipe gameplay.

Never use them again.

I wish the dev team would sit down and figure out what they want to do instead of throwing together band aid solutions to every issue.

AIIIIIIIEEE WE ONLY MADE FIVE BILLION DOLLARS SHUT IT DOWN NO REFUNDS

ZZZ endgame is garbage. I'm not even sure why am still playing. It's probably how generous mihomo has been to my account. I have almost every character but lighter and jane without spending too much. I but the pass that gives you tapes everyday lol.

Boomerang declares false statements from twitter

SAY THE LINE “TWITTER IS NOT A REALIABLE SOURCE”!

If you don't like it then quit. Personally, I originally liked the story but they've made some retarded decisions with it.

So chinks have a taste?

Yes, their taste is not liking the same bodytype as blacks which is also the dame bodytype americans like, which is why zzz flopped when the primary point of gachas is the anime girls
See how genshin also took a hit to their playerbase with their last region when they decided to import characters from zzz to genshin
Anyways mihoyo is retarded for pandering to americans

There are a lot of those but there hasn't been one that really stood above the rest.
One of the reasons I feel so comfortable playing Girls' Frontline 2 is that the devs continue to try to win back the Chinese audience instead of appease the west.

Blackculture-shitposter-kun you're even here?
I thought you only browsed Anon Babble

Yeah bro I did, but this is a discussion about ZZZ failing

Can't wait to wake up tomorrow and start yet another productive day of spamming threads of games I dislike on Anon Babble with shitposts.

what else is there to do during the weekends?

Play 40k at the LGS.

But I don't like the 9th or 10th edition, all these secondary objectives make it feel like we are playing some other game and only engage in combat when we have to

Then play only Dawn of War. Had more fun playing that map and mode instead of all the card rule bullshit myself

I tried it and got bored within a few days.

Still waiting on my pink idol robot lolis!

wise and pulchra holding hands

Its true that even on CN, zzz still below other games. So there is something wrong.

Left or Right

enter any gacha thread

troons coyly ERPing with each other speaking in increasingly coded language to avoid jannies

lol

Lighter and Jane are the only ones I skipped.

definitely not the mental deficient on the left

Somebody overfed the cat

couldnt be fucked to stop a handful of neet schizos samefag shitting up the place and would rather ban people for reporting

they just up and leave, taking with them the fastest thread on the site rivaling entire boards put together

THE ART OF THE DEAL

your first mistaken was reporting anything, i caught a few day ban once for reporting hardcore porn being posted on Anon Babble before.

just don't report it and let the jannies deal with it.

let the jannies deal with it

they never did shit on that board unless you were in a general with a pocket janny, thats how people like pic in got away with it
they only got slapped when they tried that on the altchans because they went "oh there's a retarded schizo" and shot them instead of doing nothing and because of IDs you could see them samefag pathetically

i'm just saying you catch unwarranted bans for reporting shit, i just hide it when i see it and move on.