Name a character that went thru more pain than her. I'll wait

As with every single one of these shitty threads.

Palestinians and Ukrainians.

Maelle is ugly and isn't white

She hasn't even suffered the most in her own game
Both Verso and Painted Alicia suffered more. Maybe Painted Clea and Simon too depending on how aware they are of their respective predicaments

maybe maille would have done the right thing if clea wasnt such a cunt to her. sad that the objectively good ending is maille living the rest of her life as an outcast. Maille's ending is objectively worse. No one there has free will if it goes against her wishes.

I gotta be honest though, i do not know what the fuck the point of the expiditions were really for and why there was only 100 of them in total, idk why renoir and aline decided to just fuck with the fake people of lumiere

is that zelensky

I would still put it in her butt , maybe then she'll feel pleasure?

what is this schizo going on about

Is this game teaching people to tell the disabled to fuck off? Is this eugenics?

Why are you acting like Maelle is running some power hungry dictatorship? Verso is a whiny fag but who cares

What I don't get is why Maelle can't just gommage Verso so he stops his bitching and then continue living in the painting

her burns down there are grooved for your pleasure ig

man that little blur they put around the names is kinda ugly isn't it?
anyway painted alicia is cute, cuter than real burned alicia actually. but why is she monochrome?

because the ending shows that
verso has hesitations performing, maille has her paintress powers explicitly shown and then verso begins playing.
maille creates a hyper realized world she wants to live in. She doesnt want any amount of grief or pain, which you cant tell by even gustave being brought back.
She refuses to deal with the pain. Idk who the little boy was though

Her eyes were just showing that she is being consumed by the painting like her mother

She doesn't control Verso's actions and I don't see any reason she can't mercy gommage him

the painted versions of the actually real characters have distinct coloration patterns showing them to be different than their original counterparts. Verso says that he would have pure white hair if he didnt go out of his way to look how he wanted. Renoir does similar things.

I kinda assume they all may by default be monochrome and add the color to themselves willingly, though painted alice for some reason doesn't, instead insists on wearing a mask

i also assume for rule of cool

she literally fucking forces him to play the Piano when he wants to fucking die.

they are fully in a Child God situation where Maelle is going to make them all be happy and her friend and do as she wants till she literally dies.

i dont think her being consumed by her powers and her also abusing her powers as i described are mutually exclusive.
I would argue that maille bringing back verso after his gomague also further shows she is just wanted to create a reality that is for her. When verso is initially fading away, she said she just wanted a life where she could be with her brother again, while verso kept insisting he doesnt want this life.

I really feel like they are telling you that maille has taken obsessive control of this reality, and at the very least verso does not have free will

She's not forcing him to do shit. Also she could gommage him I'm assuming.

I don't see why the ending would push this power fantasy Maelle angle considering she has always been humble and even in the ending, she saved her friends and their families and the only miserable one is Verso, who is always a whiny crying fag.

Now why she doesn't gommage Verso, Idk, maybe she can't, maybe she thinks him leaving in misery is better than never existing, maybe it's for selfish desires as it's the only remaining element of her brother, but either way, I'm not getting power trip out of the ending, moreso escapism gone too far and it will eventually kill her, but I she can leave at any time and repaint her friends later as well

aline's version of Verso (playable character) is selfish, just like her version of Renoir. Gustave (maelle's verso) is very selfless. We never see the real Verso, only a fragment of his soul forced to paint for the addictions of others.

No one there has free will

Why do retards keep spouting this bullshit? The ending does not elaborate on this at all

I mean its his world, its his painting, its his Soul that powers the whole thing.

imagine knowing your dead, and your family use the last little bit of your soul to tear each other apart, and you are stuck in an eternal fantasy world until they get their shit together.

he has every right to be selfish, everyone in his painting given life to live out some weird shit for his family are sadly collateral .

was gustave actually explicitly stated to be maille's verso? i must have missed that

Why are you acting like Maelle is running some power hungry dictatorship? Verso is a whiny fag but who cares

Makes it easier to sell "MAELLE BAD", even though she has no dictatorship and cannot make anyone do anything against their will as it is an established fact he is not powerful enough to paint over someone else's "painting" and bend them to her will like Clea.

But hey. This go-to headcanon makes Versofags feel better about genocide and making Alicia live life as a mime and hot potato because "muh escapism."

Verso needs to quit being a whiny faggot. Maelle is in the right.

Verso wanted to kill everyone and destroy the painting solely because him dying is more important than anything else. He is just a self-centered selfish slimeball. Remember he also let Gustave die just to groom Maelle

clears

she doesn't gommage him because he wants it, she's a angry little shit to him the entire game, and if you go with her, she gives in to her petty feelings she has towards Verso, namely, his death was this big important thing, and she was completely sidelined over him, she has an unspoken grudge over this, and now she can make the beloved dead brother dance and play.

no but it seems like the obvious intention given the nature of the writing and the playing with reality in the painting.

anon, are you fucking retarded
it was even in the post

verso is dying, saying i do not want to live this life over and over

maille says she just wants to keep continue living this life with her brother

ending shows verso alive again, playing the piano after maille uses her paint powers

its explicitly shown to you. the other fake people are fine going along with it im sure, but verso absolutely does not have free will in this ending

Verso literally died burning

Pretty sure it's said somewhere painted Verso is almost identical to real Verso

No, he's just the painted version. The real version is just a tiny husk of his soul and is the small boy painting

sort of, why the fuck do you think they share a weapon pool.

who the fuck couldn't see it that way? They even look similar. Everything in the painting is make believe from people who can shape reality.

Good, it's a small price to pay for letting Gustave die

I killed Verso with Gustave's Homage, and now he can be tortured husk for all of eternity for his sins while Gustave and Sophia live happily ever after

escaping real life issues and tragedies and pretending they never happened is also bad

the big issue is that the endings only deal in extremes. some times escaping from reality can be good, but maille's version of it is not good. it becomes obsessive

that went thru more pain than her

anybody that played this shitty game

nah he's right to be selfish, its his fuckin soul they are using to do all this shit with.

Gustave isn't real, anon.

No it's not nigga, Verso is just a painted version. He wants the boy to stop painting so he can destroy the canvas, not because it's him

Jennifer English mogged by Devora Wilde twice

Brutal.

Could be Renoir or a mix of Verso and Renoir

they looked similar, but idk i dont know if its exactly obvious if this actually is whats going on. it would seems strange that maille would only have one painted person.

Except he has real thoughts, feelings, emotions, pains, etc.

the nepotism is insane, never pay vas

Damn, graphics are getting crazy good.

So do lobsters

Gustave is a totally separate person, the carryover is purely for gameplay reasons

That was easy

Not in the same way, but if I became a lobster and made a bunch of close lobster friends and had years of experiences and memories with these lobsters, I wouldn't just fucking kill them because "lol dey lobsters!!'

AHHH HELP MY HAIR IS PIXEL ARTEFACTS

AHHHHH UNREAL ENGINE AHHHH

yea, all because he's powered by a human soul and paint magic, a human soul that, mind you, wants to die.

its not Verso's fault they put abunch of painted people into his soul canvas.

how about if your lobster friends only exist because of a boy's soul thats wrenched from his now dead fucking corpse.

Verso is a painted version. The soul of REAL Verso doesn't want to die or want to live, it's basically just an emotionless life essence

That's a great lobster hypothetical ngl

Easy.

VN characters tend to have much more challenging fates. See Okabe from Steins Gate

playing the piano after maille uses her paint powers

She is not using her "paint powers." She cannot control him. Read. Read. READ. The jump scare is about "muh evil maelle", but showcasing her inevitable death in the canvas Verso warned her about. The same "living corpse" visage he saw of Aline which Renoir showed to the party. Holy shit.

Painted Verso is effectively the biggest patron for Verso there is, he knows things only Verso knows, he's EFFECTIVELY a slightly altered Verso.

I think he has the final say on this since Boy Verso is effectively a fucking invalid because so little of him is left.

painting your dead brother into his own soul canvas and making him live forever in some weird Alice in Wonderland unreality is a weirdly cruel thing to ask of someone you supposedly love, and then using OTHER painted people and their painted civilization as justification to keep the giant fucking circus going is just post hoc bullshit.

post achievements and playtime

sure, the game seems intentionally vague on this point, no one in the game says Verso and Gustave look very similar (even though they clearly do) while also explicitly saying Maelle looks similar to Alysia. Given painters powers, it isn't that far of a stretch to think Maelle made Gustave unconsciously in the image of her memory of Verso.

is about "muh evil maelle"

*is not

if she simply made Gustave (he was born in the painting and not of the original cast of painted people) that just further highlights the unreality of these people and their lives.

sure they think and feel and love.. but if their birth can be crafted in such a way, they are hardly as real as people discussing the game think.

It's not construed as cruel, it's just how the process of creating a canvas works, and it just so happened he died in the process of the painting.

If anything, it could be viewed as a sort of memento, the last real piece of him. But I don't think it's causing him pain, or at least nothing in the game pointed towards that.

Painted Verso is in pain because he was created as part of basically a puppet family to comfort Aline, and he can't die and has been roaming this world for over 100 years and is ready to check out. Again, he wants to die for selfish reasons, he doesn't give a damn about the family or irl or real Verso, it's all just lip service to get them to destroy the canvas and/or kill him

which is PERFECTLY FUCKING REASONABLE FOR HIM TO WANT

he's NOT real, and he KNOWS he isn't real, and his existence is complete suffering for him, he doesn't LIKE the painted world and its unreality because he "knows" about reality, and how he died ect ect.

he isn't "being real selfish" for him, existence is a complete and total nightmare and he has zero desire to play family councilor for these faggots, which they all desperately want him to participate in.

I know this, if a 2nd version of myself gets put into some shithole painting I made while I was dying, I would be fucking deadset on destroying it, and myself, purely out of obstinance, spite and anger at my half-life existence.

cope. Gustave is the older brother Maelle wanted while real Verso was playing in his painting with Clea.

he doesn't give a damn about the family or irl or real Verso, it's all just lip service to get them to destroy the canvas and/or kill him

Is there a reason this eludes Versofags? This faggot literally told Alicia

"lol you can paint. you don't have to live a shitty life if you don't want to lmao"

- literally telling her to go fuck off into another canvas if she hates her real life so much. Just not HIS canvas so that he can finally fucking die. That's all he really cares about. If he gave a shit about the Dessendre's family's grief, he'd never advocate for that.

almost as good as OP

he doesn't have to care, they made him for their little sob party, he doesn't want to be apart of it, and nor does he have to.

if Gustave is real like people say, so is Painted Verso, and his wish is to finally fucking die.

Entire point for her was Verso. She can go and live in any other canvas

idk why renoir and aline decided to just fuck with the fake people of lumiere

Aline was not doing anything. Clea (with the Nevrons) and Renoir were killing the people of Lumiere to negate Chroma to Aline to weaken her,

Okabe is just an annoying bitch and undoing Dmails is not challenging.

Watch all the Versofags completely ignore your post.

sort of my point. The world is magical. There are so many things that seem intentionally absent that are beyond oversight. There is dialogue in the game about extensive greenhouses and farmland making food for the city yet these are clearly not in the painting. Verso's favorite restaurant is still there ... but is now has a different name.

goddamn that alicia vs. maelle duel was kino. So fucking good

Idk who the little boy was though

Ciel's unborn child.

That wouldn't be possible since Gustave was already around before Alicia entered the painting

Wasn't it more than just that? Didn't it take getting motivation from his future self in SG Zero to finally be on the right track?

There weren’t 100 expeditions and Renoir was fucking with Aline’s creations specifically, because they’re the ones with her chroma

was he? did Maelle repaint someone to be the Verso she always wanted as an older brother?

Too bad nigga, get over it. You literally live in a fantastical painting, stop bitching. Maelle will uncuck you when she gets bored of you

He has history with other characters in Lumiere, the explanation for those relationships would be contrived and not alluded to if we take that scenario.

Gustave is Aline’s creation(she was paiting the babies to not just og lumierians). So his similarities with Verso and Renoir can be explained with that

Then why verso hesitate for so long until that happened
Why is verso alive again after wishing to be gone if not for maille
The verso playing piano very clearly shows restraint and unwillingness to perform, he hesitates a lot

My dad slipped on some stairs and broke eight of his ribs this week :(

except he doesn't live, its not real for him, and he can't die.

Why did Alan Wake did this to her, bros?

history with other characters in Lumiere

anon this is fiction, not a fucking history book. Clearly painter's can rewrite reality in the painting. Gustave was a random npc and Maelle's unconscious plucked him out to be her older brother.

Then why verso hesitate for so long until that happened

Because he doesn't want to play the fucking piano and is playing (living) against his wishes. The entire scene is to showcase is that even Verso's dream and the concert they spoke about is not a reason to make him smile.

Aline is sexy

imagine getting head from that faceless version, I bet she succ hard

Name a character that went thru more pain than her. I'll wait

We are NOT getting turned on by old women you faggot.

He feels all emotions of a living person. Only difference is he lives in a literal fantasy painting instead of the soul crushing reality wagecage

Regardless Maelle and all her painted friends > one whiny faggot's feelings

Sounds like he lacks free will hmmmmmmm....

He feels all emotions of a living person

does he? or does he just have the feelings painted onto him by real verso's dying soul? You zoomers and your addition to escapism, heh

I think people who dislike Verso so much lack any ability to empathize with others, especially others that want things contrary to what they, or people they align with want.

Verso knows he's not real, he knows the people around him aren't real either, he befriends them but any time he consciously thinks about it, he realizes he's actually a dead boy, and they are just painted people.

existence like this would be eternal suffering.

Can we all just be honest that the moment the OG Maelle dies, the Maelle with Alicia's consciousness is WAY more into Verso to the point it really did feel like an anime with the incest?

It's almost like they tacked on him fucking other women to guise out the clear attraction Maelicia starts to show him which he is also clearly uncomfortable with.

He literally wants the entire painting and everyone in it to die because he's a whiny depressed faggot. He lies and manipulates people and will destroy everything just to kill himself.

You watch too much porn, i didnt feel that at all

For those that come after.

I love how all of his attack voice lines broadcast this.

Aline painted fake Verso, moron.

yes, and he has every right to do so.

its a world crafted from his fucking soul.

but who maintains him (retard)? Aline after she is forced out of the painting?

its a world crafted from his fucking soul.

Painted Verso=/=fragment of child Verso's soul. He is a fucking painted construct like everyone else in the canvas and evokes no higher authority to decide everyone's fate.

No, it's not you fucking faggot. It's crafted from dead real Verso's soul, of which he feels no pain or sentience, it's just how the process of creating a canvas works.

Verso is just a painted person like Gustave or Lune or any random NPC. The only difference is he was painted with a ton of chroma so is basically invincible/immune to the yearly gommage

Maelle can’t even say “Clea is hunting the writers responsible for Verso’s death” she instead says “Clea is hunting the writers responsible for… the fire”

She’s not reached acceptance

No one needs to "maintain" him. No more than Aline maintains any other created NPC. Painted Verso is no more relevant than a Lumiere NPC, just with his invincibility

or maybe Verso's soul is the one that keeps things going after they are painted. And the one who suffers forever because of the addictions of others.

No, it doesn't. Nothing in the game suggests that in the slightest. Verso was created in the image of real Verso but is wholly separate, removed, and unrelated to real Verso or his soul; he is no more connected than any random NPC in Lumiere.

A lot of people apparently think Verso in painting is the real Verso like Maelle is, but that's not how it works. He is a painted character like everyone else, and his opinions don't overrule Maelle, her friends, and the thousands in Lumiere

do Maelle's sidequest

she gommages painted Alicia, not giving a shit about Verso

Verso mad as fuck and complains that Maelle made that decision without thinking about his feelings, despite how in the ending he disregards everyone's feelings to erase the painting

Maelle justifies it by saying she was respecting Alicia's wishes, despite how in the ending she refuses to respect Verso's wishes to die

They really are all hypocrites

OMG WHO IS THAT GIRL ON THE RIGHT

She is making Verso suffer for letting Gustave die. Well deserved too

No, it doesn't. Nothing in the game suggests that in the slightest. Verso was created in the image of real Verso but is wholly separate, removed, and unrelated to real Verso or his soul; he is no more connected than any random NPC in Lumiere.

did you not see the fucking end of the game where the piece of verso's soul was over the canvas painting his ass off? Nothing exists in the painting without that bro

Yes, he is a soulless husk, that maintains the essence of the painting. He has no connection to painted Verso whatsoever.

It didn’t feel like incest, but Alicia IS defined by the trauma of Verso’s death and it does overshadow virtually everything else

maintains the essence of the painting

no connection to painted Verso whatsoever

Yes, painted Verso was made by Aline to cope, and has no connection to either real Verso or the piece of his soul used to create the canvas.

Pay attention next time