Deltarune

Chapter 5 WILL release alongside chapters 3 and 4, on June 5th.

And Toby didn't say that why...?

We just need to WAIT

Jockington is the most tragic character in all of Deltarune

Loves soccer

Doesn't have legs

wrong. the game is finished and the final chapters will release several weeks after the switch 2 launch.

Monster Kid is the most tragic character in all of Deltarune

Loves the Angel with all her heart

Doesn't have hands to pray with

Out all of the characters available in Hometown and Youtown, who would you take to the fair?

catty

No, that's just a teaser for Weird Route significance.
It might be a page for chapter 5, but it has the most relevancy to chapter 3 because the 3's as massive as 2.

Retarded copium.

Susie.

just noticed it says "back", were really jumping back to previous chapters after getting to 4 aint we? hence the "but..." in chapter 3

IN MY DREAMS... AN EGG APPEARED AND WAS SURROUNDED BY AN ISLAND, WITH PEOPLE, ANIMALS, AN ENTIRE WORLD!

... ... ... ... BUT, VERILY, IT BE THE NATURE OF DREAMS TO END!

ONLY THE MEMORY OF THIS DREAM LAND WILL EXIST IN THE WAKING WORLD...

SOMEDAY, THOU MAY RECALL THIS ISLAND... THAT MEMORY MUST BE THE REAL DREAM WORLD...

... ... ... ... COME, Kris ... LET US AWAKEN... TOGETHER!!

youtube.com/watch?v=QaJsqJ_oV2g

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can't take her on half the rides because she's too fat for the seats/supports

I still find it really suspect that Catti is the way she is compared to the rest of her family, and she's been swayed by the Serpent.

GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
GET OUT OF MY HEAD.

tobert

Oh this is just a punk song what coul-

I'm convinced Gaster real and there's a FRIEND INSIDE deltarune

so... what do you think is the context for h.mp3?

CHARA YOU MISCREANT WHERE IS MY GODDAMN VESSEL

Susie of course
But I doubt Toberald will surrender his lesbos that easily so CHADly might be taking (Me)

As Kris? Susie.
As myself? Tasque Manager.

no one will cry for him

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The thankyou page is now skipping the text entry and straight up displays Thank You now. Did we figure out what goes in the bottom box?

yno

pick a cope:

someone got it and fucked it with a fake email/isn't telling

people fucking directly with the e-mail server got it closed

only people in the first 12 hours that submitted a valid e-mail will get a response sometime later

now you've just got schizophrenia

No. It's more likely that Toby and Fangamer realized the whole gimmick was a bust so we'll probably get the intended output later.

shattered across space and time

jumped into a neo neo neo neo dark world

thus making himself an innate aspect of fiction that appears everywhere

Oh boy, I can't wait to play Final Fantasy 7, one of my favorite childhoo- OH SHI-
youtube.com/watch?v=go856zoFL-E

You have collected 2 Shadow Crystals.

But don't let down your guard. I feel your next opponent may be... hm.

In reality, it may be impossible to win.

... Unless you use the power of the Shadow Mantle.

Here, it may look like an old scrap of cloth, but...

... eh?

I can't find it. Did someone... take it...?

Hahaha! Well now, there goes your one chance of victory!

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Took the shadow crystal we have needed to find the Shadow Mantle

only one ending, but the journey has different outcomes

in the newest trailer we see the Angel animated at the end of it

this entire adventure we go from left to right

at the very far right there is the Angel

at the very start of the game, there is ???

they seemingly have marks similar to the Titans

the weird route will lead us to fight the Titans rather than the Angels

You fight the angel in a group, while you fight the titans alone

both lead to the same ending

Chapter 6 and 7 come after.

I love reading books, anons. Especially the ones upstairs.

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Bratty.

tall enough for every ride

everyone gives you a wide berth with a 7 foot tall gator bitch

make rude comments while people-watching

she'll hit every fried food stand you pay for until she makes herself sick

get to watch her try to pretend she's still hot after upchucking into a porta john

probably get free rides too if a weenie like pizzapants is manning the gates

one TWO THREE four Five

four has a red dot that links to a music teaser

1, 3 have a Not Applicable

2 has a Applicable

5 has another music teaser

what did the dog mean by this

okay, faggot.

The titans are a neo ending, they are something that isnt supposed to happen

What are the chances this guy and the other Goner counterparts in the game are actually agents of Gaster, making sure the game is going on the track? It could be cool if they show their true forms in the weird route in an effort to stop the player.

berdly, unironically

and the Angel is a prophecy that in equal measure will signal the end of the world, both are doomsday routes, one where the Light World overcomes the Dark World, and one where the Dark World overcomes the Light World.

deltarune.com/romb

inspect element

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Change it to <body class="unknown bg-white">

You can't escape me you little shit

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3 is not applicable BUT... ch 2. Has a game break, ch 3. Doesn't BUT does if you manage to ditch susie and do a story break.

Why is she such a cunt?

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Lancer or Berdly. Those two are hilarious.

Thaaaaaaaat's Politics!

Yes but you're not getting the point. The roaring is a game break like minus world in SMB

How many chapters is this shit supposed to actually be? I've been waiting for the whole thing to available first but it's taking forever.

Her husband got sick from eating gay goat ass aids all day

Berdly For Sure

If you point a flashlight at a darkener would they die?

7ish most likely 8 counting chapter 0

you know you can just ctrl+A to highlight everything right?

...but

chicken butt
poast chicken butt

7 chapters was the originally presented scope.
However we learned a long time ago that there's system entries for even more chapters, namely chapter 0.

It would be extremely painful.

We need the shadow mantle to reveal the Chapter 3 schizoboss because its a greenscreen

7even
this release is chapters 3 and 4

Ctrl+Deez

I really hope Toby handles her right and doesn't make her too much of a cunt.

Thats what I expect to be the case, curious to find out how they will lead up to it though. If Chapter 4 which is the church leads to the angel in Chapter 5 (theoretically) then maybe the Bunker which seems to be the very depths will be where the titans lie? Or maybe we just go back to the closet since originally we fell in that area to begin with (though now it just leads directly to Ralsei's place, so we got to ??? by pure accident?)

wears baggy clothes in public but switches to clingy spandex with the Fun Gang so they can see her wide hips, her bubble butt, and her puffy vagina

Krissy is such a FREAK...

It's been a while
Why is Kris such an emo again?

literally soulless

You're a dark guy

I just realized it's going to be tricky to go pick up my Switch 2 at the midnight release. I'll have to wait in line with a bunch of gamers who might've gotten further than me. The last thing I need is them shouting spoilers about the moment when Ralsei snaps or something

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Waiting until the game is done is a bad idea because aside from the fact that's it's going to take another 5 years at least, you will absolutely be spoiled by then.

me riding around town with a loudspeaker shouting pizzapants is the knight

anon proceeds to get stabbed by a bunch of fanboys

I'm imagining a guy camping out to be the first one with a switch and then furiously playing so he can get to spoilers and shout them out at the people still waiting in line

4u

Because she’s the main villain aka the knight

bro if Rudy is describing her the way he is when talking to Kris, there is nothing healthy relationship wise going on in the Holiday household.

Asriel.
He is my best friend.

Anyone think it'll be possible to transfer POWER to earlier chapters? I keep thinking about the possibility of Susie being over leveled in Chapter 1, and oneshotting Lancer during the fight in the prison. Lancer dying would completely stunt her character growth, potentially fucking up Chapters 2 & 3 in the process. Who knows if she'd even be in Chapter 3 in this hypothetical timeline.

But her being a cunt is what's going to make her hot.

Kris, let's never go there again

She's a total Knight-Mayor

I doubt the chapters are going to be that complexly intertwined, but it would fit "Complete Chapter 3 without issue"

severe lack of cock in her life

I would hope that would be the case desu, thats probably the only way to get the Weird route in Chapter 3, because we need the cape to defeat the schizo boss in that one

business suit and bob cut

I am already erect. There was never a choice.

Given that "1" was small but hidden, it's likely that we can make a small-but-route-altering change like that.

why?

funi

"ASGORE KILLS TORIEL"

I mean it's also possible that the weird route of Chapter 3 softlocks you in the Dreemurr House dark world.

KRIS IS THE DARK CRYSTAL

[With Spamton NEO's Shadow Crystal, but without Jevil's]

...What is that? It appears you have a Shadow Crystal.

...

Unfortunately, I believe that you are missing one from your previous adventures.

...

But, are you sure? Are you sure you didn't defeat that clown...?

Perhaps... You just haven't remembered that you had yet.

That's right, as long as you ever defeated that enemy in the past...

Then perhaps, even now, that Crystal might turn up somewhere close... Perhaps!

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The Kris Emeralds

Ralsei seeing Susie decapitate Lancer with a single swing of her axe

I want to fuck Gaster so badly

I understand you anon.

Either it's as simple as getting the "everyone hates you" outcome from letting Darkners get beat up and not seeking forgiveness and that eventually having an effect later, or there's some fuckery involving an alternate version of Chapter 1 that boots up instead of the normal version once you've met specific criteria.

or there's some fuckery involving an alternate version of Chapter 1

It remains to be seen if another chapter has a maze, a key, and a guide.

the 3's as massive as 2

But it's also blacked out. Perhaps the size is how much impact your actions in a chapter will have on the outcome of the game, but the white/black is how much you can SEE what your impact will be. So there could be something in Chapter 3 you can do that won't obviously change something in the short-term, but which will smack you out of nowhere far into the future. Something as important as Berdly's death (assuming he really is dead) but which won't change the flow of Chapter 3 itself the way Snowgrave changes the latter half of Chapter 2

People are making a mountain out of "COMPLETE WITHOUT ISSUE" when it's just normal Gaster / Chapter 1 Save File Guy talk. "IT WAS AS IF IT WAS NEVER THERE AT ALL." was for simply deleting a save file. "COMPLETE WITHOUT ISSUE" is, at absolute worst, for finishing Chapter 3 without any deaths, but even then I think it's just finishing it by itself. Even though he's required to add trophies and even though I can accept the SUSIE = ISSUE as a base for her name, I don't think this is saying anything like that (that's not to say there won't be anything to be done, though. "But...")

what does noelle stand for?

SUSIE = ISSUE

People still buy this shit?

Is leaving Susie asleep in the dark world a schizo move?

Do you think there's a chance Toby will have fucked with the old chapters when the new ones release?

Thank you Anon.
It means a lot.

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I like the electiontruckung Mayor Holiday design concept where her body is never directly described but as the story progresses it keeps mentioning her having increasingly bizarre body parts and by the end she's described as having antlers, tentacles, antenna, multiple sets of eyes, etc. Sadly that is a concept left solely for literary works.

I assume that the normal route gives the achievement and you're either forced to leave Susie behind in the Dark World when you seal the fountain or it's directly alluding to a possible Susie-less route.

It being "finish the chapter without Susie" is probably bullshit
But I think Toby made it very clear some bad shit's gonna go down

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Its not THAT farfetched, it already happened once.

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No losses.

people are probably going to try and smuggle future items into Chapter 1 via cheats just to see if anything happens

Personally, I hope retaining the titles you can get actually do get transfered over save files, simply to make the process of slowly changing how Chapter 1+ plays more fun since you'd naturally WANT to retain titles from the start of the game all the way through for the power to change previous chapters, even if it's minor stuff like, for example

Fluffy Prince - Ralei's title with a scarf equipped I think - going all the way to the end makes Ralsei's hugs heal you, but only for how much said character like hugs so it' personalized healing - Kris heals the least

Susie's Ultimate Heal Master title actually healing every status effect in the game, so the 2 hp heal is negligible - your building TP to heal nasty status effects you don't have the items to heal

I'd replay just for the strategic and small changes that can contribute to weird stuff happening

considering the tiny 1 on the "chapter5" page, yes

the whole thing relies on how you parse toby's "uwu quirky translated japanese dev" style in the newsletter:

The way things are set up, you'll only receive a trophy once the current "room" where you unlocked it ends. You'll miss getting it if you turn off the game before then. So be careful while completing all four chapters. Especially, there may be certain conditions where you will miss acquiring the CHAPTER END trophies. I don't think it's something an average player would run across, however…

what the fuck

why would she be anything less than a massive cunt

THE TWILIGHT REVERIE...

No Ls

actually reading it again i think i've parsed it

meeting the criteria for an achievement sets a flag that gives you the achievement when you next leave a room, but for some reason this flag disappears if you save and reload

but surely this would be a game maker issue? what other playstation games made with game maker are there besides undertale? can you trigger this issue in undertale ps4?

holy fuck

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THE
WHEN THE LIGHT IS RUNNING LOW AND THE SHADOWS START TO GROW
AND THE PLACES THAT YOU KNOW SEEM LIKE FANTASY

Rudy better not die or else that widow of his is going to be turned into a new mother several times over by me

YOU CANT HURT ME GASTER DELTARUNE ISNT REAL

my body is reggie

FRIEND probably took it, maybe?

you reach the softlock end in the 4th chapter

game over screen shows up

mfw Chapter 5 shows up

I think them being blacked out means that changing them is impossible in a *normal* playthrough

I adore every aspect of Links Awakening, Its story is probably the best in the series, and is the only time where "It was all just a dream" was done well.

I wonder how this whole weird route business will affect him. he knows far more than he lets on.

Noisz Starlivht

Never thought I'd see someone bring up a game only 5 people played.
Fun fact, you can't name the producer Gaster in that game. It doesn't let you use any of the ingame character names(obviously).....and also Gaster for some reason.

Last thread 404d before I could get back to the PC: Where the fuck do you guys find the DEEP LORE, the grinning face and the drawing thing on the spamton sweepstakes? I think I might be actually braindamaged

I feel so GODDAMN ready...

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Am I the only one who doesn't care about Gaster?

He's obviously never gonna make it into the story.
It's just like a metabait character, all you're ever getting is breadcrumbs.

"it was all just a dream" being a bad story archetype is just normoid seething because shitty normalfag shows have used it as a copout once or twice. a good, well=written piece with a dream ending will still be good because they're, you know, GOOD.

be busy for one day

aparently left out of some huge thing I have no idea about

okay, fuck you too Toby. Not everyones a NEET

from these threads

am i the only one

no, you never are, and you know it. stop asking.

I think were overanalizing this aspect desu, for a game about light and darkness, having 2 chapters in the dark could have a different meaning altogether. Its ominous especially when the Chapter 5 page says "back" and the 1 is completely dark. We can assume Chapter 3 and 1 will share some kind of connection between the two though.

I just want to see the end-result of all this meta-fuckery already.

It's not about the meta shit at this point. I just like playing around with Gaster like a lil dressup doll, he gets to be anything I feel like.

i might have exaggerated, but you didn't name one example besides links awakening that's good, so i still win the argument.

I think it's intentional for by design fail states

I feel that might be too complicated for Toby, but it would be kino.

But where is it on the website? All I found it some dark room where theres somethign to click I never manage to find/click in time then it goes on about crystals

jej

you'd need to be mentally deranged to not think gaster isn't a major character in deltarune

what are you imagining a "by design fail state" to look like?

I didn't feel I needed to. jacob's ladder

Kris just doesn't come back after taking (You) out.

obviously you did, since the original post was made specifically to bait people into giving me media recommendations.

a soft lock

Chapter 1 Jail sequence but Susie isn't there

Chapter 3 hypothetical situation where the entrance to the fountain is inaccessible

Chapter 4 sequence but Susie can't assist you

Chapter 2 sequence where Berdly is gone and Spamton hasn't taken over the Queen's Mansion

over the garden wall

nah, improve your bait quality

I can't believe the fan theories about Mike/Tenna being yellow/magenta eye colored ended up being true.

worked well enough, considering i have a movie to watch tonight now.

It really sucks we don't have a stand-in Deltarune character we can turn into the "GASTER ISN'T REAL" strawman and just make endless memes of.

thinks mike/tenna is catfriend

we have an Anon for that, i wonder when he's gonna show up again.

if it's a soft lock then you haven't completed the chapter and not getting the achievement isn't something that needs to be mentioned

Do you think the avatar we made at the start of the game will eventually show up?

He'll show up, but only at some point during The Roaring or another "darker than dark" moment. Entry 17 is almost guaranteed to be reprised in Deltarune, framed as him monologuing to himself before he turns around, portrait reveals and asks two individuals (Kris and Susie, possibly even (You) and Kris) what they think of it.

obviously? the game even keeps track of it

maybe

There used to be a lot of Theorists that detested even mentioning Gaster when Chapter 1 came out.

Yeah but anon doesn't have a canon ingame apperance we can make edits of for the lulz

All I found it some dark room where theres somethign to click I never manage to find/click in time

press ctrl + A
also, check Noelle's code page. go from there

husband has monster cancer

oldest daughter is “dead”

youngest daughter is a mentally unstable doormat

Gee I wonder

it is (You)

The vessel never physically appears, but the questions you answered in the survey will matter anyway

chapter 1 has no weirdness but you can make the card people hate you

chapter 2 weirdness mindbreaks Noelle and "kills" berdly

only lightworld characters bare minimum for chapter 3 so far are Kris, Susie, and......

reasonably she shouldn't be with the whole asriel plotline and yet the possibility can't be ruled out.

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Hmm, returning to older chapters in an indie RPG...

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100% it will.

hnnnnnnnngh gote mome breaking

What's the lore behind Susie sometimes having yellow teeth in chapter 1?

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she didn't brush

don't worry, Toriel will still be alive she'll just be in jail for frying her eggs husband/making fish sticks . I actually don't think you'll be able to make her kill anyone or anything, but snowgrave will 100% effect the way Chapter 3 plays and you might be able to do something

settle down, isabelle.

This is nice and all but who the fug is Elly

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You're so dense you'd make great housing material.

(No)Elly, like Dess(ember). It's a surname

I still don't think any of the returning UT characters are going to be relevant. Toriel's going to be asleep in Ch3 and she's a hostage we have to extract from Tenna or something

Actually, I think I've figured out what the Chapter 1 weird route i going to be - it's going to involve the Lost Woods section.

No, hear me out: in future Chapters we will likely get a similar puzzle with a different direction solution, for example navigating the forest in the light world or something, and we can use the same solution for the Chapter 1 Forest to end up in a different area than usual.

nickname

I AM SO FUCKING READY

it does if the softlock happens in the fountain chamber

Imagine day 1 a bunch of players find an actual bug that gets them softlocked and people start theoryschizoing about if this was intended game design.

Surely toby wouldn't let players murder goat mom in two different games. (you) making kris doing something like that would probably make them snap. All future chapters would be them alone in that...empty house.

What if weird routes are related to the location of trees/eggs?
Spamton sells you the ring and at the same time there was a tree between those screens
What about the first chapter? Anything weird near the tree? Something easily missable? The original starwalker?

who even gives a fuck anymore

It'll be the ??????? section right at the beginning, it's the weirdest part of that Chapter by far.

the individuals are sans and asgore

me

Him appearing during The Roaring would be kino, especially with the

photon readings negative

this next experience seems very very interesting

The "Darkness" seems to be in reality, negative light. They spread just like light, for instances:

the door to the closet in the first chapter spreads the dark light from it through the hallways of the school

the dark fountains themselves are bright and emanate a source of light per say

when Kris creates a fountain, it first is a source of light which slowly shifts into a dark light

Assuming Gaster would show up at that point though, what kind of experiment would he be attempting? I thought the idea of a "Negative light save point" could be feasible, in order for us players to "go back in time", after all the Titans all look like fucking save point stars
I could be reading too much into it but it seems too much of a coincidence

Guys

I cant WAIT anymore.

shadow mantle is king's cape. you can only get it by doing a pacifist victory (impossible in base chapter 1)

but you will.

Gaster is gonna take the form of a fucking mascot shaped cat/annoying dog and there's gonna be a critical moment where we realize he was in the fucking menus or something the whole time. Imagine in ch6 we reach a "bad ending" so we call out to him and a plush sized animal shows up and sends us back to ch1 where we unlock an entire new route.

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he's experimenting in making people happy via the infliction of pain. he abandoned spamton because he was done with him, nothiing more

hey, are there any Anon Babble archives with search enabled that go before 2020? I want to see how people here reacted when Jevil was first found

Make sure to play chapter 4 first so that you can give out spoilers early.

empty house

you mean [Broken Home]

the chapter doesn't end in the fountain retard

chaos chaos chaos

Monday rolls around

All the elementary schoolers are wandering around the halls looking for her

But he did make Spamton's life better before abandoning him. What would PAIN mean anyway?

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This has some characterization for Mrs. Holiday. She had the school cancel classes so that Noelle wouldn't have to walk to school across town in a heavy thunderstorm. You could frame this as being overly protective, but she was concerned for Noelle's health and safety. If she was neglecting Noelle she wouldn't give a shit.
Noelle also uses her mom's hair driers to dry off Catti and "make melty cheese crackers." If Mrs. Holiday was home for this it would be pretty nice and wholesome, but even if she's not it at least shows that Noelle isn't afraid of touching her mom's stuff, as you might expect if she was really that harsh and strict.
I think the idea that Mrs. Holiday is outright abusive to Noelle is overblown (you think Rudy would be with someone who would treat his little girl like that?). She expects a lot from her, and Noelle probably feels that she's controlling, but thinking that she doesn't love her is way off base. There's no doubt that their relationship is under a lot of strain right now with Rudy in the hospital and Mrs. Holiday clearly throwing herself into her work to cope, but the foundation isn't broken.

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If she was neglecting Noelle she wouldn't give a shit.

I mean, there's a certain subset of neglectful parents who do care about their own image and a politician fits the profile...

pain makes you stronger, so naturally a shitton of pain will make you a shitton stronger

H-hey... hey, come back! I don't care if you're a toy, I need you!!
GASTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!!!

Might just be overprotective considering weather supposedly took the life of another child of hers Funny how thats 2 of the NPCs we know will be interacting with us in Chapter 3

ooo that's even worse

Kris have you seen your mom?

Kris? Where's mrs Dreemur?

mrs dreamer is never late for class. hope she's alright

get the fuck out of Anon Babble, you deltatroons

thank you

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT A GAME THAT JUST RECEIVED NEW SPECULATIVE CONTENT, I NEED MORE ROOM FOR DALLE THREADS, ECELEB THREADS, PORN THREADS, Anon Babble THREADS, TWITTER SCREENSHOT THREADS, GTA6 THREADS AND CONSOLEWARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

faggot game

Actually, I get the feeling someone else I know has seen it, but, I just know that even if I asked them, I probably wouldn't get a straight answer XP ugh...

Kris right? Or berdly maybe?

you don't understand, this is taking up valuable board space that could be used to get mad at blacks being in the next ubisoft game that i wasn't going to buy anyways

Every Deltarune thread you make, a salesfag thread dies. Remember that

What the fuck did the "fwug" in fwugradiation stand for.

Making the school cancel class because it's raining is beyond doing what's expected, Noelle didn't even think it was a big deal. It was heavy rain but it doesn't seem like it was that severe if Catti just walked over without an umbrella.
Now we also have to ask why couldn't she just drive Noelle in, and from there we can figure she must be already at the office before Noelle leaves for school in the morning. This is an example of how her work is straining their relationship, being the mayor of a small town is not unimportant but it's hard to imagine she really NEEDS to be there from early morning to late in the afternoon or evening. She's prioritizing her work over her daughter.

Using "they," it's Kris

Man I gotta find the original thread where anons discovered the snowgrave route

I never played Deltarune. Is Gaster actually in it?

I'm gonna be honest, I don't think Deltarune is gonna deal with legitimately abusive lightner parents. Every parent is probably gonna be flawed but loves their kid to some extent.

But Susie

Lots of evidence points to her being poor, not that she was 100% abused. She has plenty of reasons to want to sleep over at Kris's place given it's a nice spacious house with lots of things in it that's isolated from noisy neighbors. Besides Kris is her first friend so of course she wouldn't pass up an opportunity to do more friendship things like having a slumber party.

He's the first person you talk to when you start the game.

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Shitposter-kun getting anally crucified that this isn't the 6 gorilliath "is X good for you [giant anime ass]" ritual thread

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Yes, but he's a pussy and refuses to show his sprite, so it's just his dialogue and the ramification of his actions as he lurks in the background doing weird fucking shit like kidnapping teenagers out of reality, giving you raw eggs or beaming visions of glory into a hobo's brain down the street for fun

Sorry, we forgot to save room for the tariff threads

It was before his brain-addling fever dream that turned him schizo.
There may be another reason for cancelling school due to rain. There's a lake just north of the school, and if I were a secret bitch I'd very much like to make sure I shored up the school before it floods.

guys, you do realise there's a gif of it raining in one of the chapters right?

There might be something that happens in the rain

Using "they," it's Kris

Oh right true. That'd explain why the creepy cat face only shows up for kris in the castle basement when susie and ralsel aren't around. Kinda?

You just know he's going to be a contestant in a game show in CH3

And yes, he will turn to stone again.

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arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/571358969/#571360451 is where confirmation first reached Anon Babble, I'm not sure where it was first mentioned but people were hearing rumors of the guy who said he found it and reacting with skepticism before the video. Good times, can't believe it's almost been 4 years!

But there seems to be two different people involved with Spamton in the call, lemme thow in the facts see if I can reach a conclusion:

Jevil knows of the Knight

but Jevil says the Kings (plural) locked him away

meaning whatever drove him insane was not the Knight as the Kings were locked up after the Knight showed up

Spamton is aware of Jevil (mentions a clown around town and how he'll shoot higher than him)

The first person to call him was helping him out (Could it be Mike?)

Suddenly he got another call from another individual in which he left the phone hanging and disappeared

but the part that confuses me is pic related. His description sounds more like FRIEND than Gaster, unless he was lured by Gaster to meet FRIEND? But thats not just that. After talking about "communion" as he did when mentioning the FRIEND, he also mentions the Knight, supposedly having met him after the fact.

Too many involved parties with Spamton its hard to tell who actually fucked him up.

Yes, he will turn to stone again

Actually, I'm willing to bet he won't. I think since he was in Kris's pocket when the Dark World was created, he'll be considered 'part' of this Dark World. Same with Lancer.

Noelle or Susie. If neither of them are willing to go with me I probably just go with MK and Snowy, make it a boys night out.

Raging Loop was pretty fun up until the last quarter where it shits the bed harder than UTY. It's like they didn't know how to wrap up the story so they just trashed everything they built up and made shit up on the spot. It made all the good parts worse.

Reminded me of this pic I really like this Mike design still

is mike theory still relevant after tenna became a thing or is catfriend's name mike?

but he's a pussy and refuses to show his sprite

friendly reminder that the gaster blaster is a repurposed textbox sprite, the nigger was going to be in UNDERTALE before toby scrapped the idea and reused his face sprite for sans' attack.

I think Susie could have a genuinely bad home/family life.
There's evidence but I don't really care about that, I think it would be good for the story and challenging the "muh escapism" narrative if one of the main cast genuinely does not have a better place to go than the Dark World. If you're going to do the "eventually the dream has to end and you need to face reality" message you better have at least one character whose reality isn't having a nice house and a comfortable life and a loving family.

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people are going to lose their shit when Ch4 has "It's Raining Right Here"

Why do some people still believe we will get to FIRECRIB ROUTE Mindbreak Toriel into killing fucking Napstablook or Undyne?
Both the game and the sweepstakes stuff made it very fucking obvious that its Noelle IN SPECIFIC that can do "glitchy" shit/break games and is special. Is it genuine autism demanding repeating patterns?

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Are we gonna have a constant 24/7 uptime thread for the next 30 days?

I'm pretty sure soos's homeless

freeware underground, old indie game community he was part of

As good a time as any to play through chapter 1/2 again.
I plan to import the save from 1 in survey program to 1/2.

The police office is CLOSED during rain.

what

HELP ME N-WORDMAN, I'M GOING INSANE

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Rouxls showing up in every chapter with a different hat and a new horribly mangled combination of accents is exactly what I want

the cat being mike feels a bit off because of spamton's puppet/slave issue and how he seems to still like mike. that being said, the cat could end up being a plot-twist benevolent character.

this looks so out of place compared to other sprites, even in deltarune, the most I can find similar are some of flowey's faces when he goes psycho

Darkners don't turn to stone if they LITERALLY go into a different dark world, they stone if they don't fit the dark world's setting. Rouxls Kaard in ch2 started stoning when he stopped playing a pirate(internet piracy).

That video was exactly what I was looking for, thanks anon!

I dont think there will be a hidden CH5 included, especially now since a Nintendo direct stream advertised 4 chapters, it be false advertisement then.

But what got me curious that Toby clearly wanted CH3-5 batched together, if we DONT get Ch5, then is CH4 ending will be lackluster? I can imagine gaster or the knight being the last thing in CH5, but Ch4...

friendly reminder that the gaster blaster is a repurposed textbox sprite

Wait what

Im not going to /utg/, that place is worse then reddit

Spamton's mysterious benefactor on the phone was "Gaster" (some agent of him at least; Gaster is already associated with phones through the Memoryheads etc., and the phone produces "garbage noise" played in ENTRY NUMBER 17)
Spamton encountered/was influenced by FRIEND after "Gaster" abandoned him. When things started going downhill but before he got kicked out of Queen's Mansion, he would spend his time in the basement, "praying." He made [[Communion]] with FRIEND. And that's where we see FRIEND watching us.

do we know if the cat's evil? from what it's directly labelled it's uppercase and labelled as a friend which does not appear in the weird route

Calling it right now, WE took it.
Doomed another timeline for our own.
This too is how we will get a chapter 1 weird route.

Tron save us

The police office is closed because Undyne follows you into the Dark Fountain for Chapter 3. If she were to not make it back out, it might have to close for a bit...

gaster is in the black lodge

If you're going to do the "eventually the dream has to end and you need to face reality" message you better have at least one character whose reality isn't having a nice house and a comfortable life and a loving family.

I'm 99% sure that's basically the entire point of the game. A daydream where your parents get back together, your bully is your friend, your childhood friend starts hanging out with you again, etc. real life fucking sucks but it will never get better if you run away from pain.

People aren't seeing the correct schizotheories

He wanted Chapter 5 included so it felt worthwhile to buy it for 3 chapters rather than 2 but at this point it'd be worse for him to keep waiting until chapter 5 was ready

Gaster is the mayor

no one
I went on one date in high school and it's because she asked me

If she was homeless Toriel would know about it. Public schools don't have street orphans attending, there has to be some kind of guardianship situation even if they're just a ward of the state.

Let's not bring Lynch into this.
He did the tango with fire, and fire took him.
He got his ideas from dreams, and Toby is following suit. I pray to God Toby does not tango with what he shouldn't.

Yeah they are not the same person, but then who the FUCK is Mike supposed to be?
But the first one on the phone with Spamton abandoned him. I assume this Tenna guy was the one that abandoned him, and Gaster contacted him afterwards, leading with his encounter with FRIEND.

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Friend's holy/electric?

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Mama Gaster...

Toby could theoretically release 5 the next day and it would stay true to the advertising as well as his words that he will release the next chapters later

Are Gaster and Chara working against each other or are they working with each other?
A 9 can look like a 6 if you look at it from another angle and vice versa.

pretty sure he's meant to be an amalgamate of some kind, the guy has 6 different voices. also the memoryheads, which do weird shit like only talk to you over the phone.

the textbox sprites use a specific naming syntax, and one of the sprites in the gaster blaster gfx folder is a duplicate with the textbox syntax.

Dreemurr marriage in ruins

Holiday marriage falling apart

wow Toby sure loves writing dysfunctional parental relationships. wonder what's up with that

I don't think chara exists in deltarune, or the idea of chara/the monster doesn't have a fallen human vessel and is instead us

I would say that would be a clever usage of "deltarune tomorrow", but that meme is only a few months old, and it wouldn't have planned for it. I dont think he will do that

I forgot, what was the ???? section again?
And, didn't Noelle mention an impossible maze that she solved?

Chapters 3+4 would have probably been released in April, so we're almost certainly going to get Chapter 5 within the year unless he intends to gate the meta-routing behind its release or bundles it with future content.

what happens if you get both Shadow Crystals and then talk to him on a new save file?

Mike is literally just a throwaway name for Spamton's backstory. It was never meant to be anything more than that, but people went fucking insane and latched onto it so hard that Toby had to go out of his way to debunk it and reveal Tenna's name in the Spamton Sweepstakes.
Do not be surprised or disappointed when Chapter 3 comes out and Spamton and "Mike" are not involved at all.

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the most aggressively important thing here is that spamton dropped his crazy man act (and it is an act) to say mike. mike did nothing wrong

Everything being fine and dandy is BORING though

it can't be big shot mike because it's not a simple throwaway line if it's brought up this frequently, it's also not the big bad of chapter 3 since that's tenna, it's unlikely it's the schizo boss? schizo bosses have/had direct communication/know each other but he doesn't seem to fit with the weathers/woody so either he is

side character we haven't/won't meet

inside joke

??? is where you find a lot of runes and black ooze coming from what seems to be terrain, similar to what the design of the Titans is

he would have to get CH5 completed by July then, since we know it takes 6 months for testing and weeaboo translators, and thats for a Christmas release.

He didn't update anything about CH5 progress during this newsletter, so I'm wondering what he's up to with the next step

Kris, you did not tell me your new friend was... homeless. She must have put a fake address on the school admission forms. I will take the appropriate actions to have her removed from the roster immediatly.

and also eyes on the wall like this nigga here

Toby never does anything for no reason

Toby's ideal scenario would have been releasing the entire game together from the start.
Bundling and releasing 3-5 together was supposed to be a compromise, putting out a product complete enough to be charged for without making people WAIT too long. It soon became apparent that would still take too long, so 5 got shelved to put 3+4 out the door as soon as possible.
At this point I think Toby has been disabused of the notion that his game isn't being released episodically and nobody wants to WAIT more than strictly necessary, so future chapters will probably be released as soon as they're done.

There's four different motherfuckers running around like the bastards they are. Let me quickly run down the list:

Tenna

Gameshow Host that seems to have fucked Spamton over at some point. Member of the Cathode Crew, possibly the main boss and a television darkner. Does not seem as though he was the one to turn him insane, but did apparently fuck over whoever "Mike" is, which pissed Spamton off.

Mike

Unknown entity who Spamton seems to be on good terms with. The Cathode Crew either wants to find Mike to fuck him up further, or have already fucked him up to the point he has vanished. Could possibly be the one to have helped Spamton achieve success. Could possibly be DEVICE_FRIEND.

Gaster

Weird motherfucker. Asks you to complete a survey at the start of the game, before his device is hijacked by an unknown entity. Possibly the man behind the tree who gives you eggs. If he IS the man behind the tree, that means he disappears during Weird Route and (according to recent information from Sweepstakes 2) kidnapped December Holiday in the forest at some point in time. Seems to have some weird "liking" to Kris, Susie and Noelle. Seems to have some sort of base of operations inside the bunker at the bottom of Hometown. Heavily implied to have told the prophecy to Ralsei, setting up the events of the game in motion. Heavily implied to be the last person Spamton called, possibly indicating he aided him in his rise to power.

DEVICE_FRIEND

Cat related entity that seems to be involved in RNG based events and the concept of luck. Heavily related to an in-game videogame called "Cat Petterz" which Spamton is also tied to. Seems to have some weird "liking" to Kris and Noelle specifically. Could possibly be Mike.

Mrs. Holiday was possessed by a certain entity and had been physically and sexually abusing Dess for years on behalf of said entity, who would then kill Dess when said entity couldn't posses her.
Asgore found out about part of this but had to keep quiet because of the political power held by Mrs. Holiday as the mayor, which is why he stepped down as sheriff and why Toriel hates him.
Kris has been trying to save Dess through a timeloop.

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idk the name MIKE seems a bit too involved with the idea of TV that I believe it might show up, I mean, if [AN]TENNA is showcased as a TV, Mike might be a literal MIKE which fits in with the whole TV stuff were having for chapter 3.

I would not be surprised if chapter 4 has been changed significantly since it began development to add/fix issues for not having chapter 5

Basically all of Chapter 1 is an allegory for Susie's home life, with Lancer and his Dad being a stand-in for Susie and her own dad.

It's why Susie's theme and Lancer's theme have the same leitmotif
youtube.com/watch?v=YAwhc-_jCOA
youtube.com/watch?v=GAhBQH0Kf1I

The same thing with Chapter 2, the Queen is supposed to be Noelle's mother. The idea is that these kids are all playing make believe and making stories based on their own experiences

Being poor, not being able to afford lunch, living in a crappy apartment with thin walls and your parent(s) working constantly so they rarely have time for you by itself is a pretty shitty home life.

Mike?
The real name of burgerpants.

and (according to recent information from Sweepstakes 2) kidnapped December Holiday in the forest at some point in time.

????????

i CANT FIND THE fRIEND THING FUCK

her

you forgot the string

that's also why the evil cat shit isn't in chapter 1, all of that is coming from noelle's psyche.

Click 100 times

DON'T GIVE UP, JUST KEEP PLAYING THE CAT PETTERZ GAME. HE'S BOUND TO SHOW UP AT SOME POINT.

FRIEND also has something to do with the chair for some reason since he appears, laughs? but doesn't smile if you click it enough

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I remember when Mike was Mike Ditka and his BIG SHOT soda commercials from 1997

It wasn't for no reason. It fleshed out Spamton's sympathetic and humanizing backstory to have him wistfully/hauntingly remember one specific guy he used to know. And it obviously worked extraordinarily well.
That doesn't mean the plan was for you to go to the next Chapter and have some random scrimblo there to go "It's me, Mike from Deltarune!" so you can point at the screen and basedface about remembering the thing Spamton said.

... would susie's character growth even start?
the event that really kicks it off is ralsei berating her for fighting k.round.
if she was truly strong enough to one shot lancer, she'd be able to one shot that checker piece too.
ralsei wouldnt have the "but you only made it worse!" argument since susie technically solved it immediately, and she'd stay on the team. continually one shotting enemies.
this would also cascade into:

a pretty significant amount of CH1 enemies dying, including the king. ralsei likely wouldnt be able to convince the survivors to come to castle town.

sweet, cap'n, K_K dying

their deaths would fuck up the queen fight... but she would die too.

spamton one shot in the alley, no NEO fight for you. presumably no crystal too.

that one tiny change would cascade and fuck up the whole game

Who knows if she'd even be in Chapter 3 in this hypothetical timeline.

presumably she'd stay with kris because "hell yeah dude, these murder adventures rock!"
but i could see it being a lock too, with ralsei and susie abandoning you.

I thought he didnt show up in Chapter 1 because its a videogame and there wouldnt be any videogames in the school lockers. I mean, take into consideration one thing, Kris has the game too at home, he definitely has played it before, it would be weird for it not to show up in Chapter 1 going off of that. Meanwhile Chapter 2 takes place in a library, there's a lot of computers.

Mike is a microphone, a radio microphone to be specific.

Jevil is a joker, usually discarded from a deck.
Spamton was spam, usually discarded from your email

Mike is probably a character we haven't seen yet, but i still think he's the schizo of chapter 3.
Video killed the radio star, the mike was discarded when the tv stars like elnina and lanino came in

His fault for taking so long working on it

I don't know? I think he just likes people who are suicidal/going to die since he's directly linked with gaster who also toys with random fuckers

Berdly is a proud gamer

More confirmation for the videogame theory

Has anyone mentioned that "ma.ogg" seems to be a pitched up version of the sound that plays when King's cape flies away yet? youtu.be/zVI66OmsXDY?t=299

no fuck off esl tard

Mad

could have posted the combined vocaroo an anon made for easier comparison

With how unlocking the weird route required extremely specific shit, do you think getting the "true" weird route ending requires you to abort each chapter's weird route at specific points so you can keep certain items?

That doesn't mean the plan was for you to go to the next Chapter and have some random scrimblo there to go "It's me, Mike from Deltarune!" so you can point at the screen and basedface about remembering the thing Spamton said.

That's exactly how Queen was foreshadowed at the end of Jevil's fight.

but... but, muh friend in me, partner

Behold, the true super boss.

Sweepstakes 1 and 2 reveal the following through URL names and website headers:

December Holiday ran a cryptid hunting blog

Something was "lost where the forest would grow"

Noelle and Kris were childhood friends who hung out together a lot

"The poor children" saw something behind a tree, and went to "Therapy"

You have to scribble and draw until you find a tree in "Therapy"

A girl has taken a considerable amount of time to smile after something happened

Combine with the following from the game:

There is a man behind a tree, who lives in the room between

Kris and Noelle were supervised by Dess

This paints the following sequence of events pretty clearly:

Kris, Noelle and Dess were at the forest

They saw a man behind a tree

Kris and Noelle came back alone

Therapy resulted in nothing but drawings of the tree

I cannot be bothered to find out which one of those motherfuckers is the one who pulls the strings and makes them ring. I thought it was Gaster at first, it's what seems the most obvious to me, but with all this shit piled on top I have to deal with the basics before touching the Tools, you know?

seems to be

Also continuing this line of thinking; Toriel probably won't be a party member in chapter 3 like some people are thinking. The boss will probably be some Toriel analogue to keep up the family drama. If not Toriel, then probably an Asgore/Asriel analogue

you want to see my dragon?

a pitch black cape

ma.mp3

shadow MAntle

Do you think FRIEND is the schizo boss of adventure No. 3?

twisted sword was intentionally left in the files to hint at this as early as Ch2

he appears, laughs? but doesn't smile if you click it enough

Crossposting from a thread earlier today
FRIEND, and maybe by extension Gaster, is not just associated with smiles, but also laughter

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I listened to the whole thing, I don't hear "it". What am I supposed to be hearing?

UT/DR?

WE took it.

Doomed another timeline for our own.

chapter 1 weird route

guitar gaster loop

event so traumatizing this tree keeps manifesting in the Dark World

and they still cant see the man's figure

but what of the Snowstorm that happened? Shouldnt that be related to Dess's disappearance?

I can't believe Slenderman is canon to Deltarune lore.

I didn't initially, but it's really the "cancelled cowboy show" message from Toby and beyond that sold it, even the removed "sneaking" seems to be back in the screenshot.

Like, what else can it be? It wont be Chariel, it wont be Green Dragon or Flowey Flowers. Its the only fitting idea that makes sense

id shoot a pitch white rope on monoko's face

Lick temmies feet

no, this feels very unlikely. friend is a third entity.

so

spamton has a friend named mike

tv illuminati fucks over mike and spamton has nobody left

spamton prays in the basement

gaster sends his persian cat to talk with him

spamton gets rich

cat goes to take a nap

spamton looses all his kromer and lives in a dumpster

bravo fubby

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He was praying to NEO though

youtu.be/rksOYId-cNA?t=11137
Reminder that Toby says "cool mantle bro" after it flies away in the anniversary livestream.

This is probably true, there's a Gaster's Theme reference in Noelle's theme

Sorry, thought you said FRIEND IN ME.

However does anyone have that old Toby posts of him needing to complete certain things in CH3

Like "6 somethings" and 3 "other things". He may have implied there is more than 1 secret boss in CH3. Has anyone got what Toby said in a past newsletter?

If the shadow mantle is so powerful than how come it didn't seem to help spade king

Could have connected Spamton to Noelle through the Pipis egg in Cat Petters.

he threw it away

Good taste.

FRIEND is the dark world counterpart to the Annoying Dog, it'll keep showing up throughout the game

Is he stupid?

it's too late

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Maybe he wasn't using it right, or at all
Maybe you need a SOUL to use it
Maybe it's ineffective against Lightners

can't believe this shit was right in front of our faces for so long and seemingly nobody noticed it

Through the darkness of future past
The magician longs to see
One chants out between two worlds
Fire walk with me

I would cum actual buckets hearing this at the culmination of the weird route

The suspense is fucking killing me, these three weeks are going to be painful to sit through.

fat man who rose to power only through being carried by The Knight tries to win against three prophecized angel-slayers ganging up on him

Gee I wonder why he didn't win

Seems more like it just kinda flew away by itself to me, like some strange bird thing.

THE HAND OF THE KNIGHT IS DRIFTING FORWARD.

SOON, THE "QUEEN" RETURNS, AND HELL'S ROAR BUBBLES FROM THE DEPTHS...

This is a very clear and direct warning, Jevil is directly telling you a "QUEEN" is coming, and was not unreasonable to expect given that Chapter 1's villain was "King"
This is NOT AT ALL comparable to Spamton's offhanded non-sequiturs about a guy he used to know. If Spamton said "YOU MIGHT HAVE [Cut me to pieces] BUT JUST WAIT 'TILL YOU MEET MY [Partner in crime!] MIKE" we would not be having this conversation. But he did not say anything like that, he wistfully remembered somebody once and then talked to someone who wasn't there.
This is pure patternfaggotry, Jevil directly warned you about the next main boss so ANY PROPER NOUN that comes out of Spamton's mouth must be foreshadowing for the next main boss! Oops, the TV head guy is actually named Tenna? Well it must be the secret boss! Some fucked up creepy cat thing that's come from the darker than dark abyss? Uh yup that must be Mike!
It's fucking idiotic sunk cost shit, you fell in line behind one million shitty Youtubers making "MIKE TV" theories in 2022 telling you that Mike is the TV head guy (and also the castle in a game of chess, somehow) and you absolutely refuse to admit that he was NEVER fucking important.

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three weeks

GOD its so close

WE NEED TO GO BACK IN TIME TO GET KING'S SHADOW MANTLE OFF THE MENU

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This isn't too complicated and is definitely happening to some degree
Undertale already did this partially and that was just a small testing ground for what he really wanted to do

I think you got it wrong, Spamton got rich first because of Mike, Tenna fucked up Mike and he had to disappear, Spamton fell off because of this, and when he was gonna get kicked out he got a call and left it hanging (garbage noise). Probably ran to the basement to pray, and met the cat, lost his mind (hence his eye colors and his big smile, its an unnatural look for him)
Now Spamton has this weird crazy perception of "H E A V E N" and thinks getting bigger will help him reach it (probably the Light World?) hence why he seeks your soul out and just raw power (AKA NEO's PAIN)

because the king isn't (you)
he doesnt know how to use it like we will

Seems more like it just kinda flew away by itself to me, like some strange bird thing.

To Me It Looked More Like A Butterfly Flying Back

The reason people latched onto Mike is the same reason people predicted Chapter 2 would have a Queen; schizo boss dialogue that served as foreshadowing, and Queen's presence in Chapter 2 proved their intuition correct after Jevil forewarns the gang about "the Queen's return" and, as we would later come to find, The Roaring.

There's going to be TWO schizobosses in ch3.
If you fight one you get locked out of fighting the other.
You will have to reload your save to fight both.

Wait a minute
Seam says which really makes me think doomed and fucked up timelines being discarded for persistent rewards will be a thing
Think of Majora's Mask and its persistent items like the Boss Masks and key items

oooooooooooooooooooooooh yeah that makes sense

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Cat petterz game? Wheres that now?
I swear im too retarded for this shit

Toby already does this for the schizobosses, but I think changing an earlier chapter might be too much for him.

Ok maybe not, i had presumed this was some big events in the works, maybe he just meant additional rooms or something

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This would definitely result in Kris slashing more than her tires

Finish Chapter 7

Amazing experience, kino all the way through

Credits roll, game is tied nice and neat

Sudden prompt appears right after THE END lingers on screen for a couple seconds

"Start NG+?"

seemingly nobody noticed it

I'VE BEEN AUTISTICALLY SCREECHING ABOUT IT SINCE CHAPTER 2 CAME OUT. NOBODY PAYS ANY ATTENTION TO ANYTHING

remember, the deltarune events are the dream we all share

There's not ONE anon, there's TWO Gaster leitmotifs in Noelle's theme.

Spamton begs to the audience

Spamton prays to the audience

so

make a weird route on a specific chapter

world gets fucked up but you get a egg mcguffin with bacon

world gets softlocked unable to end the day

erase world, keep item

make a new file and go from the start

use the egg mcguffin with bacon to get the slurpie in the double gulp cup

rinse and repeat a bunch more times for more items to brute force your way out of softlocked chapters and break the game even more

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Mantle straight up flies away like a butterfly

hrmmngh

I'm so sorry for ignoring you before, autismofriend.

Are you hungry anon

Don't you see, Baaaattler? The one taking control of the twitter account is Gaster! The one who spoke to you during the goner maker is Gaster! The man behind the tree is obviously Gaster!!! You can't simply deny his existence that easily! Go on, try to tell me how any other character from Deltarune could have done thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat! *cackle* *cackle* *cackle* *cackle* *cackle*

but why a butterfly...?

yes

nah it be this

youtube.com/watch?v=GRu59fXUj40

Still believe it was a WIP song (not finished) instead of fake

this is canon

The Butterfly Effect, anons. Small decision, big change. Break game, get mantle, big change.

I don't think it'll be that bad. It's wouldn't be too different from the pacifist ending in undertale after you've already done the genocide ending. Just have some flags that activate when you do certain events, and then have previous chapters read those flags in order to have different events occur.

Spamton has this weird crazy perception of "H E A V E N" and thinks getting bigger will help him reach it

youtube.com/watch?v=PBAl9cchQac
And I will pray to a big god
As I kneel in the big church
And my heaven will be a big heaven
And I will walk through the front door

literal butterfly effect

The Switch 2 (also other platforms) minigame is FRIEND themed and exists in Castle Town. I don't think they're going to be a superboss, at least not in the same way Jevil and Spamton were. They're something different, something darker.
Maybe we'll somehow recruit them and they end up as some kind of counterpart to Seam, that could be interesting.

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friend fans when foe comes in

anon he got his costume from a halloween party

toby posts a pumpkin story on his twitter/bluesky

halloween is taboo against the church

like... cancelled from the church

pumpkin schizo

papyrus gets his costume from deltarune

Only kids actually watch streams

predicted

intuition

You were directly fucking told Queen was coming you illiterate fuck

From an early version of Berdly's fight.

the song isn't complete, that's why the cut is jarring. it cuts off RIGHT before it segues into freedom motif
and it's not weird route, it's main route.

Get back into the 14 thread

that background isn't a pattern

its the eyes of a character

are we counting beta/erearlier concepts?

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Theres also animations for chapters 8 9 and 10's title cards as well.

I thought I saw this figure with one of the angel cats in the cat petterz page.

no, FRIEND is a major antagonist of the main route and our genuine ally in the weird route.

When the light is running low and the shadows start to grow

And the places that you know seem like fantasy

Implies that the Dark world will consume the Light world.

There's a light inside your soul

The ability to savestate. The Titans have similar stars on their design.

That's still shining in the cold with the truth

The promise in our hearts

Don't forget, I'm with you in the dark

A promise between the player and Gaster? Or is the cold indicative of something more? Dess and Kris? If Noelle is meant to be the light, maybe so was Dess?

I don't think so? it's an earlier/beta gaster that was related to a unfinished stable minigame from undertale

We Know

What the fuck bro

chaos theory and the butterfly effect. the cape is the catalyst and the entire series of events post chapter 3 will be different once you have it.

It's by Jevil's key, isn't it?

Is there gonna be a full version of this song with more lyrics at some point? Will the final boss have an insert song?

oh fuck lol

The silhouette is a bit similar but nah. There's nothing like that on the files for /rarecats

I always felt like these lyrics were from Susie's POV

Did anyone count how many songs there will be in this game
We are already above 150 songs according to Toby
Imagine the end result
200+ tracks
insane

I dont think so, I feel its purposedly small as foreshadow of events that could happen

dogs try to break into the holiday mansion and get attacked by the shadows

noelle describes the rain as though something was jumping on the roof of the holiday mansion

What the fuck is going on over there

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IT WAS RIGHT THERE

It's the mayor when possessed.

There's been about 40 songs per chapter so far, with seven Chapters we'll probably end up around 300 total.

I think Toby got the wrong read on me. I'm not fighting the schizobosses because I want to get deeper into uncovering Gaster or Dess.
I fight them because difficult fights are FUN.

a literal cryptid.

rainbow colors

in the right order even

hmmm.

daily reminder that kris is the knight.

Wait, why is itch.io not mentioned on the official site?

cat/puppet

I'm like 99% sure that's a thinly veiled OFF reference.

Gaster is a lonely cat lady who kidnaps people for any semblance of companionship

consider: wonderland theory

dark worlds and wonderland are extremely similar, """underground""" fantasy lands that defy logic and reasoning

plenty of mad and logic defying people within. kings of cards, digital queens, insane salesmen and cake baking tops.

cheshires.

they draw people deeper within wonderland, taking them deeper and deeper within the madness.

both FRIENDs, the one within the basement and in catpetters

confirmed to be cats

cheshire grin

appear whenever you're deep within "madness" (basement friend is you chasing spamton's insanity, /rarecats/ friend appears when you're trying to wring more hidden paths out of catpetterz).

when they do appear, its short lived and JUST enough to entice you to dig deeper

possible that the basement FRIEND is who mindbroke spamton

the FRIENDs are just cheshires

spamton neo wasn't hard at all, even my brother defeated him 1st try, and hes fucking awful at the game.

Spamton neo weird route however...

Catti's plus-sized mom and her beehive.

Wait, why is itch.io not mentioned on the official site?

because it fucking sucks.

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any more big discoveries since yesterday?

Pretty sure the thing that attacked the dogs was Noelle's mom. The point was to paint her as ruthless and scary. Same reason Rudy says Noelle's mom is hard on her and he's supposed to be the soft one.

Seems less of a theory and more of one of many themes the game has been playing around with.

The game's epic climax will feature Kris watching Dess drown, as a subtle nod to when Phil Collins watched a child drown, inspiring "In The Air Tonight".

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toby fox has secretly been transitioning to female over the past 5+ years which is why he never shows his face or voice anymore and his nails are always long and well-manicured in photos

Toby is only releasing Deltarune with DRM because he's upset he got less than infinite money due to people pirating Undertale.

Thank You page was closed. Now we have to WAIT.

I definitely don't think Mike was Spamton's benefactor. Spamton wouldn't be so protective of Mike when asked about him if Mike was some God-tier entity that magically brought him success (one of the Addisons asks "What did he do? Why did HE deserve this?", implying that Spamton wasn't doing anything different, he just started getting attention all of a sudden). I would also expect Spamton to be bitter about Mike in this case, since picrel makes it seem like Spamton resents his benefactor, whereas Mike is the only person Spamton genuinely still likes. And the garbage noise mention from one of the Addisons pretty clearly ties all of this to Gaster. It's likely Gaster was Spamton's caller the entire time. Alternatively, Friend could have been the one calling Spamton at first, and the call Spamton got on the day of his eviction was from Gaster, and that was what made Spamton go schizo. No one at the mansion recalls Spamton acting strangely during his time there, other than when he started praying in the basement, but that isn't terribly weird compared to how he acts when we meet him in-game. I think this is decent evidence that Gaster wasn't the one calling at first, unless he just decided to wait a while before driving Spamton insane for some reason.

either a) someone (or several people) got the answer right or b) the time limit ran out. this was automated for sure

He's already in the story, anon.

every photo of his from 2019 onwards has had him with short nails
the only indie rpg dev in danger of transitioning is austin R. jorgensen of lisa fame

Wait, I had a thought. Toby has voiced both Jevil and Spamton, does that mean every schizo is going to be male, since Toby can voice it then?

The itch.io page says 3/4 will release on Steam, so I guess no itch/gog release (or at least not until later).

If FRIEND is a cat
That means I can fuck it

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gaster is dr evil from austic powers, cat and all

In Therapy, the non-tree pixels you clean up are white.
It looks like a blizzard surrounding the tree when you're done

Toby also voiced the Queen and Tasque Manager.

Until Toby's egg cracks.

i just got an email from Tobert Fucks.
it's blank

ALRIGHT MEN WE GOT ANOTHER DARK WORLD AHEAD OF US
HOORAH THOSE FUCKING FOUNTAINS WON'T STAND A CHANCE

Toby has also voiced Queen and Tasque Manager. There is a possibility of a female schizoboss voiced by Toby.

toby refers to ralsei as a "special little boy"

Toby made a cameo on the Earthbound, USA documentary less than 2 years ago. Both his face and actual voice are in full display there.

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heya gasterposter, hows your day?

Weird Route significance.

Fuck your probably right.

Which would confirm there's no weird route shenanigans in 3 whatsoever, that what weird route shenanigans we get in 4 will be rather minor. And when we finally get something substantial in 5 it still won't be nearly as big a deal as what we already had with 2.

FUCK

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but when was it filmed?

like what,it's related to isabelle.

You are getting this email because you for the Mailing List.

a DEVICE_FRIEND is fine too...

Which would confirm there's no weird route shenanigans in 3 whatsoever

Anon. Highlight the text.
And then, go here and hold left on your keyboard
deltarune.com/chapter3/

I wanted to do the same thing because I didn't want to have the huge wait like I did between the Undertale demo and release, but as you can see now we've had an even more massive delay and we still aren't getting the whole game when it becomes available to buy.

The Three Warriors
Of An UnTold Legend

I got it too

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Here's a REAL question
Will Deltarune make use of its T rating and have the word "bitch" pop up a single time?

IT'S NOT A JOKE

I also got that what the fuck is going on
Also don't make fun of me for being mexican I'll cry more than I currently am

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normal chapter 3 is a short minigame/gimmick fest

weird chapter 3 is grade-A schizo kino

You might not have noticed, but Noelle seems to be trapped in a Cosmic horror Story, to note:

Her Childhood Human Friend may be posessed by a literal demon

Her Sister Dess disappeared after being a big investigator of spooky shit

Her house has strange stuff going on that can't really be explained away just by her being really young, some of it can be explained but a portion of it is genuinely haunted house tier

Noelle herself seems to have a guardian angel due to being able to miss half this awful shit by a hair, but this is not a good thing because the angel is the biblically accurate kind

tranny and gayly poster not even looking at the pages, just posting about them like he is

tourists are here

as a subtle nod to when Phil Collins watched a child drown, inspiring "In The Air Tonight".

False, however, Kris will watch Dess get run over by a half-asleep truck driver in reference to the Genesis song "Dreaming While You Sleep".

If I don't hear the mario paint meow when I fight device_friend I will hunt you down tobias

I DIDN'T GET A FUCKING EMAIL
GASTER IS GHOSTING ME

gaster finally makes his appearance at the end, the game hangs on that frame for a few seconds, and then gaster says "BITCH" and slowly flies off screen

no there definitely is weird route significance in chapter 3, but we're probably not going to be able to access it during a linear playthrough. whatever it is, it might be something we wont be able to mess with until we figure out how to access chapter 1's weird route thing

The dungeon where that boss happens has a random path that, in the GameBoy version, always ended in going UP

Noelle mentioned going random directions in the Dragon Blazers ice maze for a while, until she progressed by going UP

Tobias I fucking swear I'm getting sick of your bullshit.

"BITCH"

*explosion*

*explosion*

*explosion*

Toby is here

Our active discussion has summoned the dog

i also noticed this at the bottom as well

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If you put in an actual measurement of time it's acknowledged in the email.

Proofs?

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The emails have been sent out already

oh boy

ITS NOT FAIR
I WANTED TO PARTICIPATE BUT I WAS AT WOOOOOORK

I DIDN'T PUT MY ACTUAL EMAIL WHAT THE FUCK

whats on the email?

i never got to write my email because toby thought it be a good idea to bring the newsletter out at 4.00am

... and not give 24 hours later a chance to write anything, seriously it was closed when I got home from work. I'm missing out here

I didn't get a toby email :(

butterfly effect

CHAOS king

Oh god oh fuck

WHERE'S THE MONEY LEBOWSKI

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HOLY SHIT CHECK YOUR EMAIL TOBY IS SENDING OUT DELTARUNE BETA KEYS

received blank email from Toby

"You are getting this email because you for the Mailing List"

didnt see that it was an email field until after the page closed

Literally nothing. "Signed up" is removed. got it too

Fug, I should've put my email in the contacts page

dumbasses actually put noelle's fake ass email in the email field, and thus didnt participate

I don't know if they're coming out in batches, but I'm the only one in my group that got the email.
I think only certain answers are going to get a response?

It's Raining Somewhere Else

It's Raining Here

kino...

BROS HOLY SHIT!!!

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Noelle's mom moves around so fast that she just appears as a blurred, shadowy figure. And she does this around the holiday manor, inside and on its grounds

I did that, but then refreshed and put in my actual email

did not put anything in the lower field

I can see it being in the game if it was polished and refined
The motif from "The Chase"(and I think somewhere else but I'm forgetting) fits incredibly well and is thematic
I think it's fake, but.....

how do I write stuff so that I achieve the same schizocore theories that Deltarune gets?

I know I inserted both my username (nothing to do with UT/DR) and "Fr33 fr13nd f1ndh3r" in the non email section, and I got one. So maybe?

you gotta have a fever dream

You know something being on Steam doesn't mean it's going to have DRM, right?

Toriel called the police due to the slashed tires.

you need to be autistic

Steam is DRM.

What time did you enter?

use a fuck ton of real life shit and use it as fiction

Did anyone get a different result?

WHERE ARE MY EMAILS

Weird route boys don't get any eggs

It seems like anyone who put their email address for both answers is getting a blank email. Anyone who put a number in is getting an email that says "You answered _ seconds/minutes". So far there's no proof of anything else.

HOLY FUCK GUYS

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Guys I missed the whole email/question thing

What was on the page, and what question was it? What did you have to do (other than your email)

ORANGE AND FUZZY IS:

Personal email from Spamton. Very cool

Every answer is in seconds. Here's someone who answered "100 years"

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fuck, i hope not putting in a number didn't fuck me up in the long run

I've seen 'days' too, what in the world is this all leading up to?

what question was it

how long did it take her to smile, or something along those lines. I don't remember the exact wording

i wasted my guess too.

I put 359, the day of the year that's Christmas, but I didn't get an email so maybe that was too on the nose or there was a real answer people figured out while I was asleep.

Did anyone type in 666?

People were saying it only worked with your email in both spots so I did it too without thinking. Sad

When did Anon Babble go from despising Susie for allegedly being a Mary Sue, to fighting to keep her out of the doe's clutches for themselves & Kris?

why is mine empty
I answered "7 years"

i mean hey, if it sent us something still, we might still be in. maybe we just aren't gaster's truck freaks or something.

October 31st 2018.

Was that your first guess with that email? Only your first answer was accepted.

despising Susie for being a Mary Sue

That just sounds like a bitter faggot who hates women

AHHHH FUCK FUCK FUCK WHAT DOES IT MEAN

Aw man, I wanted to guess.

Yes. I only answered with an email once.

Literally as soon as everyone finished chapter 1

blank emails

If it's a black screen try doing shit in photoshop, there might be stuff hidden and you just need to invert the colours or some shit - the blanks could be revealed by highlighting them in the sweepstakes so check if there's anything hidden in the mail

WAIT, I tried with an empty second box first because I wanted to see the "She never smiled?" message, are you seriously telling me that's the one that went through?

tfw you will never find a pipe bomb in your mailbox sent by gaster

lucky you

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First thing I did was brighten it up. Nothing there.

deltarune.com/chapter4/message/

nothing

if you wait a red dot appears

it becomes reder as time goes on if you wait.

i don't get it. what are the 2deep4me lore implications here ?

W.D. Gaster pulled a bit of a prank on you my friend. Better luck next time

we know its the same red as the "9" chara DMG. But someone else also revealed its just default MS paint red, which Toby uses

Well, at least I got my email in. Hopefully that's enough to get another one.

I don't remember anyone despising Susie, yet alone for being a Mary Sue, which she flat out isn't.

god damn it I really should've put in my email

The berd is back!

HOLY SHIT A GASTER JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
deltarune.com/lancer/

ITT: Retards getting trolled

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Veeery old. If you highlight the page elements, you see a keyboard layout. Each different key takes you to E.mp3 or M.mp3. The keys corresponding to M.mp3, when pressed on your real life keyboard, give you an anagram of "thankyou" which leads to the survey page.
It's closed now, but it asked you "How long did it take her to smile?" and you had to input your email and an answer to that question. Now it's sending out responses.

None of that explains why there's a red dot in the middle of the screen

They must have gotten a fuck ton of emails, I wonder if anyone managed to get a 'right' answer?

It's actually a white bar with a red tip, you can click below it and it slowly turns white as well.

It's a pc power button. I think

It's a nose

Veeery old.

im too old for undertale/deltarune now, i have responsibilities and sheeeeett and i fucking hate it. anywhere that i can find all of the info readily available for reading ? I'm used to experiencing everything firsthand but that isn't possible as i said

There's no consistent logic with the answers people have gotten back thus far.
The only two responses I've seen are the blank email for "201X" and You answered 27 Seconds for "27".

deltarune.com/special/
I assume this was already known and its old but what music track is this?

thats the dog check room.
appears on any wrong pages.

As the game is now, its not set up to read obtained crystals from other saves when you first talk to Seam. I think one of the reasons chapters 3 and 4 needed the chapter select to be the hub game is so the save data can be read by later and earlier chapters.

Did anyone put "0" as a number? As in never?

Answer to how long until She smiled

"100 years"

FRIEND attacks after you clicking 100 cats in cat petters

Oh fuck Dess is FRIEND isn't she.

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why would she be?

She's inside Kris

What is so bad about /utg/? Other than being Anon Babble of course.

/romb/ (new shadow mantle page) can be accessed through this part of /ramb/ / Green Room which is assumed to be Kris and Asriel's bedroom.
What relevance does the secret boss have with Asriel's computer desk (?)

Dess is the soul we're playing as?

i hope she used lube

If anything, FRIEND is related to Catti

associated with cats and Noelle

the updated version of it uses the exact same yellow and pink tones Catti has on her hair

40% of the people there are obnoxious avatarfags that shit up the thread 24/7. There's just no reason to subject yourself to it

Do we know what bagel_susie.mp3 and bagel_ralsei.mp3 are tied to? I think I found it referenced in the thankyou code. It doesn't seem like there is a kris or noelle variant.

Fangamer is located in Tucson

HOLY SHIT

anon, do you not know what “pitch” means? It’s like coal or tar. It’s not an adverb.

Asriel's computer had his unfinished design for a final boss in his game, right? The one that had large rainbow wings

Hey, do you remember that Asriel was trying to make a game?

There are Kris and Noelle variants in-game. The sound effects happen upon feeding them a CD Bagel in the overworld sections.

3-4 dedicated schizos constantly spamming the thread

If Dess was a human, that's why we didn't see her in Undertale

If something can be "pitch black" there's no reason there can't also be "pitch white"

a mouse is hanging

under Asriel's bed there is a copy of the cat game

Don't post this nasty shit ever again.

I was too scared to enter my email for it

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