Outer Wilds

I finished it last night and need to talk about it.

Too bad. I don't want to talk about it

:(

Certainly one for the ages. It's kind of unfair to compare it to others because it was in development forever and had plenty of time to polish.

But damn, it's just so amazing.

Outer Wilds is one of the games ever.
Looking forward to their next one.

Gabbro's technique can now be used to make the credits roll in more situations

from the patch 3 days ago
anyone figured out what this is all about?

Wouldn't you rather talk about something else

did you do the dlc?

the DLC proved it wasn't a one off wonder. i have full faith whatever they make next will be kino as well.

Based. It's such a unique and well made game that even the typical Anon Babbleshitters tend to have a tough time making up ways to shit on it.
Easily one of my favorite games of all time.

I played the alpha back in 2013, found it on this very board

all the base concepts are in

except bramble still a WIP concept

its an actual bramble with a misty inside

decide to vibe on the interloper

notice the bramble

its getting closer

interloper's orbit intersects with bramble

you can just imagine how that turned out

must be related to mediation?
maybe one of the multiple ending involving deactivating the atp and then waiting for the supernova, like leaving the solar system or being on the quantum moon?

Not yet, but I've got it installed now. I didn't want it interfering with the base game experience.
I tried it a few years ago, didn't get the hang of the controls and didn't really use the ships log. I'm glad I gave it a second chance, I couldn't ignore the high praise it got. Think it's one of my favorite games now too, I can't really fault it except for [spoiler it's too scary[/spoiler]

the kazoos when you really fuck up

I think I read that on some versions, removing the ATP core and then meditating can soft lock the game, so maybe they patched it out.

Not as scary as fucking up spoiler tags though.

gotta go fast

Yeah the controls are definitely the biggest filter the game has, especially if you are trying to play on a keyboard. But I think having a kind of hard to control ship with the game's physics engine was ultimately the right call. It makes learning the ship SUPER rewarding too.

Did you reach the solar station without teleporting? It's the most fun thing to do in the game desu.

must be related to mediation?

duh
i wanna know if there's a new ending text or something

My fav game by a long mile, can't wait to see what this fuckers make next. After the dlc you should try lorelei and obra dinn if you haven't

Congratulations, OP, you'll never get to play it properly again. I hope you enjoyed your single-use experience properly and didn't go full zoomer and follow a guide.

Did you do the DLC?

It's a decent walking sim but nothing too special.

Got OW on sale two years ago. Knew fuck-all about it and went in blind, and I was blown away. I have played probably a thousand different games, most new games are just variations or some combination of games I have played before, but this one was quite unique.

Honestly a pure 10/10 game that deserves to be recognized as one the greatest games ever made.

holy shit you were right -->

scared of anything space related

Really enjoy the puzzle exploration of Outer Wilds

But also scared of everything black hole/Phantom Moon/Dark Bramble related

It's such a weird feeling where I consider this to be the best puzzle game I have played, but also the scariest horror game. DLC didn't scare me as much though

It's an okay game, but it's just not amazing.
I didn't find it particularly life-changing as some people seem to find it.
You follow the walls of text and they tell you where to go and then you turn off the mcguffin keeping you alive and resetting time and then end the universe whilst some random people play you the song of their people and then you die or whatever.
It's decent, it's a novel way to do a walking sim, but, I'm just not really into games where I walk from exposition dump to exposition dump.

I tried for like an hour and then gave up, I might try it for fun though.
I've played Lorelei but will definitely look at Obra Dinn

Fantastic game. The realization of what you need to do after you reach the ATP really hits like nothing else.
Did you want to talk about anything specific?

What did you think about the game, OP? Did you like it?

Following a guide would be so stupid for this game.
Not yet but I'm going to play it next. The first time a cyclone on Giant's Deep threw me into space really freaked me out.

Had to look up a guide when I played this because I was standing on the wrong pixel when trying to enter atp. It basically confirmed I was right, just misaligned slightly, but still annoys me that I can't say I beat it without looking anything up.

wrong pixel?

FIRST POST. BOOOM RIGHT IN THE COSMOS POST.

How far away is their next game?

They just started hiring people a couple of days ago so who knows

but there's been news about them working on it for months now so they've obviously been at work for a bit already.
got a source for them hiring new people though?

I loved it, 10/10 game experience. The experience can't really exist as anything other than a game which I think is always a sign of something special.

Did you want to talk about anything specific?

Not really, just discussion with other anons who played it.

their twitter. They also got unlimited budget from masi oka, huge sales and being a small team so I hope it's doesnt take them 10 years to release something

all that time and they still didnt know what to do with the ending

I will never understand how there are people that can't figure out the flight controls
They are honest to god the most fun and intuitive flight mechanics I've encountered and after the first 2~3 hours or so it was simply a joy flying for the hell of it
Granted, the tutorial with the mini-spaceship is crap cause you never actually fly your ship in 3rd person
it could be that people can't into landing camera and just till their "head", so to speak, to where they want to go thus crashing, which was the experience I had with a friend who was playing it

the only crime is they still havent fixed the slow thrust on kb/m whereas the final section is easy as piss on controller because you can slow thrust

I got filtered by the game, got lost after a few hours, mostly by the hanging city, the gameplay wasnt my style so I just uninstalled and went and watched a full playthrough. Big regret and do wish I played it. I think one of games's biggest strength is exactly something like Outer wilds where you can create and put yourself in a fictional fantasy where you can space travel and pull it off with full immersion, there should be more like it imo.

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the owlks were a bunch of retards

should've just left and gone elsewhere instead of having autism about one location. thats the games biggest strength and most people dont abuse it and instead quit once they get stuck immediately instead of letting their curiosity take them over and go elsewhere.

Midway the game I thought that the game fucked up by introducing something like eye of the universe because you set your story up for failure when you introduce a mystery like that because its far too large and difficult to pull off with a satisfying ending or conclusion, but the game managed to pull it off nonetheless

we must be very careful to not disturb the system supporting these delicate tadpoles ways of life

but also, lets blow up their sun lmao

What is their problem?

There were loads of texts and hints in the hanging city, thought that there were more to explore in there but kept getting lost so I decided fuck it and went to Giants deep which was amazing but by that point I was too fatigued by Brittle hollow so I just uninstalled, again the gameplay was not really my style

Well they didn't blow up the sun, and even the way they tried it was perfectly safe, so they didn't do anything wrong.

did you play the DLC or have you seen it after u finished the main game? if not i recommend you give that a shot. its a lot less reading and more visual. very kino.

welcome brother, now you wont be able to go back to regular games

I did watch it yeah, enjoyed it a lot also, the prisoner reelswas kino as fuck and gave me goosebumps, I still rewatch it frequently

The sun wouldn't have blown up in the final loop according to the plan. ATP was supposed to be turned off by whoever was standing near a statue as soon as the coordinates were found and sent into the past.

Mfw I opened the sun station door.

Mfw I realized that wasn't end times playing.

Mfw I figured out how to free the prisoner.

Mfw it was time for me to show the prisoner my own vision.

Mfw I saw the literal big bang.

indie slop

Did the game encourage you to transition?

mfw

Question about the ending.
Was it just a coincidence that the universe ended 20 minutes after the probe found the coordinates for the eye of the universe? Or am I a brainlet?

it was kind of spedup when u watch all the galaxies extinguish in the forest after you jump into the eye cause u were hallucinating the whole rebirth of the universe / making it happen somehow by being an observer but yeah the reason the sun exploded in the first place was because the universe was in the process of dying. you can see this by looking out to the other stars in the sky, they're all going supernova as the 22 minutes pass.

French people when an english speaker joins their gmod server

No, the probe is being shot in all of the direction in infinite timelines, basically the Nomai have found a way to literally visit everywhere in the galaxy and physically find the eye. You're just seeing 20 minutes because that's how far they've managed to stretch the "time travel"

The only coincidence is that our sun dies with all the other stars instead of having done so earlier. Otherwise, that's how the project is set up. ATP is dormant until the sun blows up. When it does, naturally or otherwise, it sends the signal to send the first probe 22 minutes into the past, starting the loop.

the final section is easy as piss on controller because you can slow thrust

if only I could hold my thumb still and not twitch all the time
might have taken me 40 tries when I decided I should leave the ship and go suit only so that I won't bump into them
if you read the sun station computers you will realise there have been millennia of attempts that started when the sun blew up
the universe "ended" for unrelated reasons because you jumped into the eye

everywhere in the galaxy

No, just everywhere in a set sphere around the sun. The Eye is orbiting the sun like a distant planet. It's in the system the game takes place in, why is why the Nomai came here in the first place. The fact that it was close enough for the probe to reach it in less than 22 minutes was a gamble.

Yeah, you're right. Everywhere where the eye feasibly could be

So what exactly is the eye of the universe? It's clearly a place, some sort of planet, but you go in some sort of wormhole tornado and then after that everything is unknown. Was it created by some beings to keep the universe going? Is it some sort of natural phenomena? If no one found the eye of the universe, would the universe just end? Or be recreated after a few billion years (again)?

What exactly is the Big Bang? That's the kind of a question you're asking

I have about 10 hours into this game. It's ok, but I don't why so many nigs love it so much.
Maybe I am a brainlet but I dont enjoy doing the same thing over and over and trying to optimize my movements for every day.

If you have to do the same things over and over every loop thats on you my man

Unless there is more info on the DLC which I haven't played yet, I would wager on the Eye being what Solanum says, a manifestation of infinity who's true form cannot be observed since such observation would give it definitive form which by the end of the game we know it to be at least somewhat dependent on the one observing it via jumping in
the physical place, up until you black out in the tornado slide, is in my opinion space being warped by the influence of the Eye which you never actually see as everything beyond this point is most likely a hallucination created by the mind in a fashion similar to how dreams dilate seconds into hours and only exist for some brief waking moments

Playing OW on kbm is like playing a racing game on kbm. It will never work properly. Throttle, brake, pitch, yaw, and roll inputs benefit so heavily from adaptive inputs vs binary inputs.

Anyone who plays this on kbm has absolutely no grounds to complain about anything. It's their own fault & the game even explicitly recommends a controller, and for very good reasons.

The warning to reduce frights for the dlc was more scary than the actual dlc itself. I got tricked into hyping myself into a hysteria based on how spooky the base game could get only for the end result to be less intimidating than standing on ash twin and feeling like the sun's about to scoop you up

Exactly. It's purposely incomprehensible, which is where the game dips its toes in some cosmic horror elements. You are not meant to understand.

I hate dark bramble so much bros

True but I also got spooked when the owls were actual enemies that could "kill" you because I got fooled into the false sense of security that they were all already dead

mfw they announce an Outer Wilds/No Man's Sky crossover

I just want to know if there are jumpscares or if it is some "it's all in your head" kind of thing

No not really since the sun going supernova is what launched the probe and started the time loops.

theres no jumpscares, its pretty clear when u will hear a semi scary sound. once u experience the "scare" once u have seen them all and realise its not that scary. dont bother with the less frights setting.

It's perfectly fine on kb/m are you nuts? The only issue is the final section is fucking cake with controller because there's a slow thrust button that keeps you at the correct speed to where you arent detected but fast enough to beat the timer

It just doesn't exist on PC KB for some stupid reason, its not that the controls are bad

I still remember how exhilarating it felt when I finally reached the Sun station fully prepared to deactivate it
The realisation of where we actually stood in time and how it really made complete sense blew me away

Granted, it's been a while, but I'm 90% sure the Eye was originally inside the system chilling with the other planets, and only got moved out after the signal burst because the Owlks were paranoid that someone might've gotten it and come looking.

the way i remember it:
the thingimajig was designed for 20 minute time jump so it always takes you to 20 minutes prior to its activation. the probe is launched when it gets the signal so at the beginning of the time loop so it always gets launched 20 minutes prior as well
they didn't get the sun station working so time travel only activates when the sun goes nova naturally, thus the entire thing is only possible right before the sun reaches its end

because there's a slow thrust button that keeps you at the correct speed

is that really a thing?

Yes.

there's an eventual definite end to existence and I'm personally not a fan of that.

I would be curious and horrified of the scenario where an observer is not needed and a new universe could be created. I mean, with seemingly random infinity it must've happened at least once right?
If the game recommends me controller I laugh at it, whether it's Outer Wilds or Super Meat Boy or whatever else. The only one I played with controller was MGR because of some strange happenstance every time I had the slow mode slicing on.

t. landed on the sun station with KB/M

It's still in the system, just further away. The drone only blocked the signal so no other race could get to it. You could argue that it was quantum and constantly moving, but if the owlks could destroy their planet, fly manually to the system, identify the eye, interpret the signal & build the drone it wasn't that movable. Unless unless the eye signal being received counts to it as being observed and thus remains in place, but that would be a new mechanic compared to what we know about being quantum.

youtube.com/watch?v=Uf0uJ9jeRGw
the first 2 minutes are relevant
unless I'm missing something, they just
find the signal, build the ship, fly to the eye, scan the eye, see that it will end the universe, seal the signal, mask their ship, that's it

I think you misunderstood the general timeline of the events happening before the game starts:

owlks discover the eye

they travel towards it and figure out its purpose

after blocking its signal with a jammer, they go to sleep

one of the wakes up and unjams the signal

he is imprisoned for it and the signal jammer is reactivated

an unknown amount of time later, the signal traveling through space, reaches a nomai vessel

they jump towards the signal, but the vessel is pulled in by dark bramble's spacetime fuckery

after several generations they recreate their civilization

they figure out the general orbit of the eye

they develop a system to send a probe to every single possible location around the solar system

before they figure out a viable power source, the civilization dies out

No, the owlks merely created a signal jammer. I'm impressed by how you managed to remember the game that differently lmao

the thingimajig was designed for 20 minute time jump

Shocked that no one has gotten this (completely) right yet.

The system was programmed so that the masks would only include conscious beings once the Eye had been found. The probe launches have been going on for millions of loops, but the Hatchling only started looping once the Eye was already located. You can imagine how hellish it would've been if they hadn't done this.

Right, at first they just mask the signal, but once the heretic lowers the shield for that brief moment they get paranoid and move the Eye just on the off-chance that someone actually received the signal. I'm not going to look it up but that's what I remember.

Then that would create a paradox and destroy the whole universe. Much better.

I mean, with seemingly random infinity it must've happened at least once right?

Good conjecture, I like it. It fits perfectly with everything we know about the game.

after a universe dies without the eye being observed, a completely random universe is created

this continues until by chance a universe is created that contains conscious beings advanced enough to witness the eye of the universe

after which they're able to shape the next universe based on their own conscious experience

they get paranoid and move the Eye

I just don't know where are you getting this. This never happens.

they get paranoid and move the Eye just on the off-chance that someone actually received the signal

Anon, there is literally nothing in the game that even remotely suggests this.

after several generations they recreate their civilization

Whats this mean? They really spent several decades rebuilding their lost technology until the interloper arrived, or are you referring to how long it took the probe to get the coordinates
1 thing im confused about, was the eye of the universe always near the solar system? was it just there but practically invisible and unreachable, until the energy starts transmitting?
Also we see that the eye of the universe was omitting signals for several decades until the owlks arrive and did their fuckery, did the nomai not catch these signals? Most likely they werent that advanced yet maybe. And presumably the other nomai civilizations didnt catch the signal because they were far away

NTA
The eye was always there, but it hadn't been emiting any signal since the Owls suppressed it long, long before the Nomai even became aware of it. The brief signal set free by the Prisoner was what the Nomai encountered, and it was immediately suppressed again, which is why they could no longer find it after arriving in the system.

the eye of the universe was omitting signals for several decades until the owlks arrive and did their fuckery, did the nomai not catch these signals?

We don't know how much time passed between most of the events, but I think it's fair to assume that the period between Owls starting to suppress the signal and the Prisoner releasing it could have lasted thousands or hundreds of thousands of years. The nomai may not have even been a civilization at the time.

They really spent several decades rebuilding their lost technology until the interloper arrived

Yep, that's what happened. the Sunless city was their "main" city where they lived and had kids. Solanum was born and grew up there until she was old enough to make the journey to the Quantum Moon.
In case you missed it (and I wouldn't blame you for it), Nomai kids writings are VERY squiggly, while adult writings are neat and concise. See pic related.

was the eye of the universe always near the solar system?

Yes. It was in orbit around the solar system.

until the energy starts transmitting

The reason why the vessel failed to teleport towards it is because they only had a general location based on an old signal, not specific coordinates.

did the nomai not catch these signals?

It's implied that the brief signal from the time the signal blocker was stopped traveled a very long time.
I think it's sound to assume that the Nomai weren't around yet when the Owlks hadn't yet discovered the eye.

sorry, the best i can do is 12

squiggly

never noticed that

Also we see that the eye of the universe was omitting signals for several decades until the owlks arrive and did their fuckery, did the nomai not catch these signals?

There's no precise time table to indicate how long it's been between the signal blocker being stopped and the nomai detecting the signal. One of the simplest explanations for why the nomai weren't first is a simple assumption: the universe is kinda big. So big in fact that that in the 200000 iirc years between the Interloper wiped them out and you pressing the restart button, no other nomai found themselves in the same system.

1 thing im confused about, was the eye of the universe always near the solar system? was it just there but practically invisible and unreachable, until the energy starts transmitting?

Yes, I've said in a previous post that if the eye was moving, surely the Owlks, destroying their planet and making the voyage physically would've missed it. Not to mention it stayed there until the signal blocker was built.

dlc game ending:

local primitive disrupts movie night at old owl folk's home, no survivors

Forgot to ask, favorite osts?
youtube.com/watch?v=iTh0GHu9SMY

Okay fine, since anon linked it I rewatched and I think I understand where my misconception came from.

In the stylized diagram, the Eye looks much closer to the rest of the system than it actually is. That on its own wouldn't necessarily have thrown me off, but later when the ship moves from the Eye's location to its final place near the sun, I interpreted that as the CLOAKING DEVICE moving away from the sun instead. I guess I just don't understand why they would bother moving to the sun. Hell, shouldn't they have stayed near the Eye to...well, keep an eye on it?

For me, it's
youtube.com/watch?v=LS-TwLP5v8k

shouldn't they have stayed near the Eye to...well, keep an eye on it?

It's just a guess, but maybe they needed to stay closer to the sun to keep a stable orbit during all those years they would be asleep

but later when the ship moves from the Eye's location to its final place near the sun

Anon... the owlk ship was never near the eye. It's just hiding near the sun to power its systems.

the CLOAKING DEVICE moving away from the sun

The "cloaking device" is the owlk ship.

they specifically do something paradox free. if that caused a paradox the game wouldn't have existed

standing on ash twin and feeling like the sun's about to scoop you up

Oh god I remember one loop I was on Ember Twin when the sun exploded. It like shrunk and vanished for a second and everything went dark. More terrifying than any jump scare.

I love how this is a typical OW threads where half the posts are spoilers
Where does this play? I have literally never heard of it

No, the cloaking device is clearly a separate thing from the ship. But on second inspection, it seems like the real timeline is

Get signal, go to eye

Immediately find out that it's a reset button for the universe, freak out, build cloaking device on the spot

Park near the sun

So they were basically at the Eye for a brief period of time to inspect it and build the cloak, but after that they were just chilling near the sun for god knows how many millennia.

I'm the anon who asked the initial question about the ending. Thanks everyone for all the replies. I am now even more confused than before.

Alright, shoot. What do you want to talk about?

So what would've happened if the nomai reached the eye? Whether the ATP worked or if the interloper never interfered.

Where does this play? I have literally never heard of it

It plays here: youtube.com/shorts/XVD7mahnIZE

cool. What do you want to talk about?

the cloaking device is clearly a separate thing from the ship

Wait, I think we're talking about separate things. You're talking about the signal jammer, right? The device that blocks the eye from sending signals into the universe?

Because microgravity is annoying as fuck and it's wildly exaggerated due to how the game is programmed.

Oh yes, sorry. The actual thing that makes the Owlk ship invisible isn't really relevant to the plot in my view so I don't really think about it lol

I have to say I feel kind of cheated that my misguided headcanon isn't right. I always thought it was slightly odd that the Eye was so far away from the main system. Not weird enough to be a plothole, but when there seemed to be a plausible reason why it might have been moved, I guess my brain just jumped at the opportunity.

what would've happened if the nomai reached the eye?

Remember the skull vision of the owlks? That would happen. The universe would reset, destroying everything and killing everyone in it.
But just like how grass grew on the skull, the universe would be replaced by a new one, based on the experiences of the conscious (nomai) observer.
In other words; the end result would be the same, but different.

Literally just stop accelerating when you get near the fish and let your ship drift past them. You are in space and have no friction. I did this on kb/m and it makes way more sense as a solution than accelerating but only a little bit

What if I am not a pretentious midwit?

So what would've happened if the nomai reached the eye?

As nerdy as they are, I don't think they would have had the technology to gain insight on the eye the same way the owlks did. Considering the shit some of them got up to, I could see one of them just jumping in immediately.

The actual thing that makes the Owlk ship invisible isn't really relevant to the plot in my view so I don't really think about it lol

To be fair, the signal jammer does effectively cloaks it from the rest of the universe so "cloaking device" isn't a wrong description.

Honestly the best possible result happened, even if it was a bumpy, messed-up road to get there. The original universe got to live to its natural end, and then someone was able to swoop in at the end and ignite the next cycle. That's why I don't completely condemn the Owlks like some people do. It was the combination of them and the Nomai and Hearthians that everything ended up the way it did.

Thread looks like declassified cold-war documents

The game can be pretty obtuse and accidentally trick you into doing things you aren't supposed to do.

I fully agree. Their actions might have been made out of anger, but it did allow the universe to flourish.
And in the end it was again by their own action (albeit done by a single individual) that allowed for a new cycle at the end of it all.

They failed

And then everyone instantly died for apparently no reason

Decades of toil rebuilding their civilization gone for no reason

The Nomai deserved a better ending

Think my only legit beef was having to fly to the DLC area each time and figuring out the timing to the sandstorm to teleport at twin ash. Maybe the fact that a lot of conversations couldn't be added to once you discovered more things.
Still though, amazing game

Crazy that a Supernova is only able to rewind time like what, 20 minutes?

fippy.
Most overrated game of all time. Far worse than Death Stranding even

Oh, that much I know, if a nomai entered, the next universe would be made according to their knowledge. I was more curious as to what would have they done had they reached eye. I choose my words poorly.
That... that seems really plausible.

That's why I don't completely condemn the Owlks like some people do.

The only true bad action was their attitude towards the Eye and the Stranger. Blocking the signal isn't a bad thing per se, especially if you want to preserve the universe against a species that doesn't know any better. How could you ensure that in who knows how many years(200k since the nomai died, so way more than that) could they actively prevent others from doing something with the eye. Hell, maybe it's for the best that they died, how could they prevent THEMSELVES from doing something with the eye? In the end it was better to stay in the dark.
God damn anon, I always knew their main theme was the Dark Forest but you somehow accentuated that

If it wasn't for them, the Hearthians would never have been able to develop their space program.
Most of their equipment is retrofitted Nomai tech, put together with literal duct tape lmao

rebuilding

rebuilding?

One of the themes of the game is that what we do has a purpose even if we never see it come to fruition in our lifetime. That definitely goes for the Nomai.

I'm not saying they should have survived, I'm saying that their end was unbelievably lame

albeit done by a single individual

Sometimes it takes just one guy. One simple action.

Can't say I'm big on the witness so far. Is it all just dragging lines around for puzzles?

NTA, but they had to recreate most of their technology from scratch, which took around two generations.
One of them bitches in a personal log about how the others expected him to recreate technology developed by a person whom he was apprenticed to for only a few years.

How would you rate Tenma's playthrough?
For me it was one of the best I've seen.

I didn't think anything could top the basegame but goddamn if I didn't tear up when the Prisoner finally got to hear how his story ended from the Hatchling

spoiler

I remember the GAME IS SPOOKY disclaimer when the DLC came out. Ultimately the disclaimer ended up scaring me more than anything actually in the game.

I'll chat with you.
Great game, end gave me a lot of existentialism feelings.
Wasn't it a great game?

I bawled my eyes out at the end of the DLC.
Literally this meme, but with the songs replaced with "end of base game" and "end of DLC" respectively.

I skipped this game because they took the EGS money

I'm gonna be the ACKSHUALLY guy and say that while I love this game, it's not particularly existential in the philosophical sense. Existentialism is more like

The universe is completely, irrevocably fucked

There is no possible way to make the universe not fucked

But somehow you have to live with that

By contrast, this game is actually extremely hopeful and vaguely "theist" in the sense that it supports the idea that everything has some kind of purpose, even if we don't know it at the time.

wtf are you talking about? the ending was perfect. best part of the game. and that's saying something, because the entire game is fantastic

be Stranger

unpersoned, house burned

locked & alone for basically eternity, with no option to die, because others threw a melty

gets an instrument to share your thoughts but no one to share it with

only a simulation of your previous world

suddenly alien

you "tell" it your life and species story and why you got locked up

it "tells" you that your simple action was not in vain, that the suffering of being completely alone for way more than 200k years whilst cruel was the consequence of a an action, one that it mattered and it let others thrive, others with a sense of curiosity and drive to explore

records one last "talk" to see the rising of a new universe togheter

dies

There's no way to feel what that man felt in that moment. Anger, satisfaction, sadness, happiness, all amplified for however many millennia into one screech

I might be misusing the word, but my feeling more was along the lines of "our time on this earth is limited"
I didn't necessarily feel scared or upset, I really loved the ending, I thought it was beautiful and definitely very hopeful, but that all things come to an end.
It's great and I loved the game. I hope their next game is as good

the fact that the owl people were able to get a vision from it with their device suggest sapients.

blue prince is terrible

And then everyone instantly died for apparently no reason

Anon did you go to the Interloper?

You know it’s a good thing the Owlks died in their sleep before the nomai, because the Owlks would not let them find eye or allow the nomai to leave least they start blabbing about the signal.

Honestly they probably would study it until they figure out what it does, though I feel as if they would have a different reaction to what it does then the strangers, like the nomai would probably realize that stepping into the storm wormhole might destroy the universe but also figure out it’s causes big bangs. They probably be like “oh shit best not to mess with this thing”

So uhhh, all things considered pretty luck that the Eye was in a direct line with the probe launcher and not on the opposite side of Giant's Deep, right?
Also pretty funny to consider that the probe canon probably launched it at you several times as you woke up.

see , But for a slightly more expanded answer, I think the concept of the Eye dovetails nicely with the recently-trendy idea of the universe being a "thing that observes/experiences itself." So in some sense, you ARE the Eye, the Eye is you. And the universe is constantly recreating and reconfiguring itself to experience all versions and aspects of itself.

Another strain of thought that fits well with the game's theming would be the Platonic "Monad," or the one source from which all other objects/phenomena/concepts/etc. emanate. Though perhaps, from a certain point of view, you could also view the OBSERVER(i.e. the Hatchling) as the Monad, and the Eye as the "Indefinite Dyad": the indeterminate sea of chaos from which the objects of the material world arise, under the influence of the Monad. These Platonic concepts were later rolled into proto-Christianity to get monotheism as we know it. That also fits with the notion of our actions having hidden "purpose," that the universe "works in mysterious ways," as it were.

Also pretty funny to consider that the probe canon probably launched it at you several times as you woke up.

I wonder what’s the reaction of the other Hearthians to the fact their newest astronauts just got bodied by nomai tech
So basically it’s like God (regardless if it is actually sentient or not)

They yolo dashed after the thing that would erase/reset/end the universe and when they realized they couldn’t find it, immediately found a pocket of hypercompressed matter in a comet and smacked it with a stick

I wonder what’s the reaction of the other Hearthians to the fact their newest astronauts just got bodied by nomai tech

The usual

So basically it’s like God (regardless if it is actually sentient or not)

Yes, but less "angry bearded man flying around in the sky" and more "incomprehensible force of infinite power and knowledge which might also kinda sorta be (You)"

I mean, that's basically already how the game presents it, right? I was just namedropping some stuff in case anyone wanted to do further reading.

The only piece of goat people tech the frog people are using is a gravity crystal that’s really only there for gameplay QOL reasons.

don't the probes use minaturised warp tech to return to you as well?

The computer also has a piece of the statues in it, which is why it "remembers" all the information between loops.

I just finished this a few days ago. Probably the scariest game I've ever played. First time entering giants deep I had to pause the game and collect myself. No game has ever made me do that.
Traversing above the black hole, flying too close to the sun. Those also made me shit myself.
Didn't play the DLC, I hear it's "scary", but I don't think it'll be the same primal fear space shit does. The angler fish that a lot of people seem to say were the scariest parts weren't bad at all.

Concentration of quantum uncertainty that generated by sentient life contradicting determinism.

Is it safeish to assume that every new universe has been observed by a previous universes' inhabitant?

Given how improbable the plan was in the first place, you could even pretend the universe was deterministic and it was impossible to not have an observer reach it no matter the means. of course that explanation isn't good for those who like the idea of free will.

Two more examples of only existing to facilitate gameplay

of course that explanation isn't good for those who like the idea of free will

Eh, there's still plenty of freedom to be found within a universe bound by determinism. Just look at ours.

Dang, I don't remember how I felt when I discovered that.
That said, I didn't believe the Sun station was the source of it blowing up, to me it was the interlooper entering it as it grew.
It does however make a shock to realize there's no way to prevent the sun from exploding

Plus there are several times in which the probe hits your spaceship before it can even launch.

I mean, that's basically already how the game presents it, right? I was just namedropping some stuff in case anyone wanted to do further reading.

Yeah hell even the nomai were kind of worshiping it and the inhabitants of the strangers were really worshiping it until they found out what it does.
Maybe it’s an actual eye of a higher dimensional being that is observing every possibility at once (hence why it needs someone to enter it, as an omniscient or omnipresent entity cannot collapse the possibilities into one)

Anon the only things remaining are the hull and thrusters of the ship.
I don't think your argument holds.

The comet was going to blow up anyway, they didn't do anything. Hell, they tried to warn the others but by sheer coincidence they discovered it right as it was about to blow. Yeah kind of a diabolus ex machina but what're you gonna do?

story and gameplay are seamlessly fused into one coherent sum

why is that supposedly a bad thing

Honestly you can figure it out from talking to Chert who realize that all the stars are dying, and soon our sun will join it. I Feels bad for him because at least the others are ignorant of what is about to happen.

I feel like such an outlier for not caring for the ending. Rest of the game was great though. DLC was not quite as good, but good enough that I am excited for whatever their next thing will be. DLC ending was also very good (which I think again makes me an outlier)

With orbital dynamics there’d be ways to fire the probe to get around giant’s deep. The tracking module shows it being fired in every direction, not just the ~270 degrees of straight shots from its point directly above you.

The fact you can’t get the game to start with the launcher pointing directly at you also indicates it uses various passive orbital trajectories to get it to hit points not in its direct line of sight

Yeah it's amazing.
There really is nothing like it

And by sheer coincidence no one outside the proto-hearthians and maybe anglefish was submerged in water to survive the blow

There's a tunnel of ghost matter on one of the islands of GD that can be traversed when submerged in water due to the island falling hard

I believe it's the one with Gabbro but it's been a while

The real question is what would how the next universe’s inhabitants are going to react to finding your probe

the only things remaining are the things that actually get the frog people into space

k

killed myself before I get respawn powers

game respawns me anyways

quit because respawning me broke the immersion

Uninstalled and havent played since

That pic is so symbolic

You know too much.

it’s just a coincidence there’s a bunch of dead goatniggers with sticks near the broken pocket of ghostmatter with two other pockets undisturbed

They smacked it with a stick to see what would happen.

To be fair going into the game blind is the way to experience it as knowledge is how you progress, though of course this means that you can only experience it once.

I mean, we can assume the fucking explosion would've fucked up any survivors very quickly after they left the water, ghost matter was probably still abundant for a year or two until it eventually started to dissipate. They couldn't swim forever.

Admittedly it does piss me off a little that there's no actual permadeath if you take out the core and get eaten by anglerfish in the bramble.

What did the prisoner mean by this?

We are all Brahma.

the frogs use goat tech to get to space

no they don’t, the game only uses them to be more playable

Y U SAY DAS BAD

I didn’t.

So the owlks were right to block the signal, the Nomai would of just jumped right into the eye to see what happens.

probably launched it at you several times as you woke up

The fuck you want, the game to uninstall itself and nuke your computer? Maybe lobotomize you?

with two other pockets undisturbed

Shit, I didn't notice that. I was too busy freaking out over the fact that apparently it WASN'T the comet yeeting into the sun that was causing it to blow up. Yeah, I went to the comet pretty early in my playthrough.

play a real game nigga

Not him, but it be funny if it deleted all ship computers datalog/notes and made you redo the tutorial. Would be more annoying than anything to be fair. especially after the first time

How you are going to explain this to the others

My point is that permadeath would basically have no consequence in this game since the only progress you retain is literally the knowledge in your head. So why wuss out? The player wouldn't actually lose anything.

I’ve been able to replay it for the first time since it came out and you don’t have to do the tutorial at all. You can go straight to [whoever] and get the launch codes. What “makes” you do the tutorial is following signs to the observatory and one of them points to “ZERO GRAVITY CAVE” and if you’re a human being you think “… okay maybe space can wait”

Is this actually a game? There's two games with similar names. One looks like a borderlands clone amd the other looked like boring movie slop.

That reminds me of how I was absolute ASS at piloting the little model ship and got a little worried, but then actually flying around in the real thing was ezpz and I legit struggle to understand how people find it difficult enough to quit the game over.

Well I mean the best ending required you to meet Solanum and the prisoners, but I think that is trivial.

Wait what? I don't remember seeing this in the game.
Would've helped a lot in silencing the "THE EYE IS EVIL AND THE GRASS IN THE VISION MEANS NOTHING" theories floating around back when the DLC came out.

niggas got this thread looking like a SCP article

What the actual fuck? Did people actually believe this? After we LITERALLY see the Eye create a new universe in the basegame?

It's a bitter pill to swallow, but most people are simply not very good at making logical connections.
And assumptions are quickly regarded as facts, especially when strengthened by emotion.

I think it was added to the game relatively recently. If you played the DLC on release you wouldn't have seen it.

That the eye is the beginning and the end.