Whats a decent mouse these days that wont shit itself instantly and doesnt cost hundreds of bucks?

it was a 2000s thing

For money.
I can do it myself for free! and probably brick it, but nobody's perfect on the first go

Open up the mouse and clean out all your dead skin and hair

but I like my lightsync mouse

I mean depending on the mouse it may be pretty close to impossible to fuck up, but yeah paying a repair shop you're paying for them to not fuck up, and good ones will give you a warranty for if they've broken your shit.

not fixing all your electronics with a hammer

low test detected

Zowie mice are the only ones that are built to last forever.

get something with onboard memory so you only need to set your profiles and shit once and optical switches on left and right click and you're done. also in this day and age you should no longer have brand loyalty. i've had cheap ass stuff like redragon and random amazon shit that has easily outlasted logitech crap.

had bad experiences with it myself, pretty mcuh the entire reason why I started fixing shit myself
that was after getting quoted 1,200€ for an electric repair job that would've costed me 100€ in cables and 50€ in tooling

There isn't really one
Just replace your switches/encoders when they go tits up

The mechanical failure of switches in mice these days isn't because they're le dirty
Which is why Enterprise mice are fucked up less.
Because businesses will and have the resources to sue.

using Razer DeathAdder Essential.
pretty good quality for the price

There aren't many because they are all chink shit and people buy a new one yearly anyway.

The problem is all the companies are buying the cheapest china switches they can find, it's not like any of them are making their own parts. Best just learn how to replace parts yourself if you don't want to keep buying new mice.

still going strong 12 years after purchase. too bad the only similar one you can get now is the shitty g502

I'm using G102 and it works great for everything I do.

due to a disability I use a trackball, logitech's pretty much the only name in the game.I've tried third party offbrand shit before and it sucks even worse.

The problem is all the companies are buying the cheapest china switches they can find

Nah china has been intentionally giving people defective parts to the degree that they can get away with because, the fuck are you gonna do

Sue China?

Lmao

Get shit manufactured elsewhere?

Mega Lmao

learn to solder and you wont have to buy a mouse ever again.

you should have bought 6 mice over those years and they wont make that mistake again.

Razer with optical switches. Don't remember which model I own, cost about 40€ some three years ago.

Also former Logitech chad here who got tired of their double clicking shit.

oh i see, that's a whole other can of worms then since you're having to deal with getting something with good bearings for the ball and having to maintain them to keep everything nice and smooth. i've only really heard of elecom and kensington i don't know how good they are for gaming to be honest.

I have a wireless trackball mouse from logitech I liked a lot too.
Kinda want to get another one but not really sure what the options are.

trackball? how does it work for gaming? you tried those ergonomic ones too? you got an ergonomic keyboard

It's this one, and for playing on the couch it works pretty good.
It's a LITTLE weird to use, because you know you flick the ball around instead of swiping across a flat surface, but FPS games are perfectly playable with it.
It's also kind of funny because you can flick the shit out of the ball and speen

Have you triend any of the kensington ones? My co-worker has one those and loves it, not sure if they're any good for gaming though.

I dunno. I got a deathadder v2 and a backup deathadder chroma. I only use deathadder. Except for the new deathadder v3 because it's not a deathadder. I think these are supposed to be shit quality that double click, but if that happens I'll just replace it with another deathadder. I got it because it like it's spin on the intellimouse shape. It's a classic and I'll never stop gaming with it.

I saw them when looking online for logitech alternatives, they would be awful to use as you can't move the cursor and click to use it at the same time, or middle click the scroll wheel.

The new MX518. Mine's 4 years and still going strong.

I bought a G403 that started double clicking within the year and I was fucking livid. I looked up fixes and people kept saying

just unplug the mouse, turn it upside down, and click the shit out of it for a few minutes

It sounded fucking stupid but it completely worked. Now it's been half a decade and I'm still using that mouse. Always try that before breaking out the warranty or soldering iron

Same. I've had 4 Logitech mice, never had double clicking issues. Only once when the side buttons were gunked up and needed to be cleaned on one. Razer was the worst for double clicking, never had a Razer mouse last longer than two years. Also tried Cooler Master and that had scroll wheel issues not long after purchase.

If you want to completely avoid double clicks you need to get optical switches though I guess.

It doesn't feel like there's a really great offering right now though. You could get a cheap Chinese offbrand mouse which might be lightweight at a lower cost but they have quality issues more frequently and severely than Logitech. And Logitech still seems to have the best wireless if you want that.

spill coffee on my keyboard

they don't make it any more

I bought it to replace the MX518 that I got on the release of WotLK, it broke in less than 2 years. Still using the old one. At this point I think I'll give it a proper burial when it finally dies.

hammer

not a soldering iron

I just realized my mousepad is really fucking dirty. I should probably buy a new one. Everytime i try to actually clean them by hand with water usually ends up in an unusable mousepad afterwards in regards to your mouse properly gliding on it.

Should probably also replace your skates if your pad has been fucked for a while.

G403

I've had one since 2018 and it's fine apart from the mousewheel acting up lately.

I miss that one. Got a endgame op1 or something the other day, feels nice and has replaceable switches because despite being hyper autistic about everything I touch being perfectly clean these fucking garbage razer mice fail after a few months of use

>>/reddit/

grug MAD at broken thing

HAMMER

nigger behavior
fix your shit like an actual handyman

If I managed to fix a ps4 with nothing but a hammer I can fix anything with a hammer.

being too weak to swing a hammer

Low.
Test.

a hammer is the wrong tool unless you're dealing with nails, gorilla.

superlight 2. currently best mouse on the market. buying anything with a cord in 2025 is borderline retarded. its not 2010 anymore, they dont have input lag anymore. even competitive cs player use them, so you as a casual will be fine lol

Man that reminds me, a sweet older lady at a place I work at brought me her son's PS4 to fix, I almost couldn't tell her that like, it was just packed dense with roaches, and she probably needed to get it off the premises ASAP.

I'm guessing you're talking about the weird looking ones? My co-worker has the TB450 or TB550

I really wish logitech would make an MX Master with a non-shit sensor.

I got mine from a thrift store

that seems like a great mouse but i have a hard time justifying spending over $100 on one. my g203 was $20 and i've had it for like 5 years and love it. i thought of getting the g305, i can get that for $25, though it seems a bit heavy.

20$ vs 120$ over 5 years

I mean an additional 100$ over the span of 5 years for something that you use for several hours a day is not really that much.

one of the wires inside the usb cable got severed, so i replaced the cable and i expect to get another 10 years from it

I could deal with you using a hammer.

If you didn't immediately turn it off and dried it out then you've only got yourself to blame.

t. spilled drinks over my keyboard 5 times already

lost so hard he pulled the internet tough guy act

lol
how are you going to deal with someone using a hammer when they're behind a mess of routers and cables and don't even have a name attached

I use a trackball myself anon. Its fairly comfy compared to a regular mouse. Anyways, I think the only option either of us have for a decent trackball is ploopy. I haven't tried it but it does seem to have a decent sensor onboard, open source software and dedicated rollers for the core ball.

You were saying that the only thing you could deal with using a hammer were nails. I merely showcased that it can be used in multiple ways, autism-kun. ^_^

=_=

Did you fucking
3D print a new shell for your mouse?

You mean trackball. Regardless, that's just how the M575 looks. The ridges are part of the construction.

$100 buys a lot of milk my dude

Its the M575 ergo edition. Its a bit strange in design, and the ball is less smooth over the base M575; however, it has better latency over the previous version M575.

G502X

Nah, they're shit. Went through 2 of them in ~3 years.
Left mouse button as always.

Im tired of this.
Everything around me that I use for years is spiking up in cost and I'm sick of putting up with it.
It adds up so quickly.

Do you think a trackball could solve my problem as shown in the pic? Basically I need to work with the keyboard a lot, but I also need to be centered on the screen when I'm working with images, so what usually happens is that I get into a bad posture as indicated on the right of the picture. Usually what I do is slide my chair around to center my body on the keyboard when I need to type long texts, but most of the time I just move my right arm to the keyboard in an “off-center” way, type a few things, and then go back to the mouse. If I didn't need so much area to move the mouse, I could center the keyboard on the screen and on my body, and according to my tests it's much more comfortable, but the current disadvantage of this method is that I can't move the mouse properly.
Could you help me with this?

Note: I would use the mouse to play games where I don't need to use both hands on the keyboard constantly, so it would be something exclusively for work.

If the $20 mouse works as well as the $120 one why spend the extra 100?

I know they're basically the gold standard for artists and 3D modelers.
So maybe.
You could get an inexpensive one and at worst you end up with an extra mouse you can use for stuff.

i just buy the cheapest mouse i can find and i'm happy with it
they don't build these things to last anyway

This. I'm still using the mouse that came with the family PC my father bought back in 2001. It just works and I expect it will break any day now. Gayming mice are a meme.

I know they're basically the gold standard for artists and 3D modelers.

I didn't know that... maybe it's something to consider.
The logitech M575s (I believe it's the same one anon posted) is $50 in my country, it's a price I have no problem paying, my only fear is that I'll buy something that's useless, since I don't like accumulating devices that are of no use to me. But if artists use it, then that's a good sign...

I use this absolute unit

I wonder if we get one day mice with hotswapable encoder and switches similar to how you can replace switches on a keyboard. I'm currently trying my luck with a mouse that has both optical switches and encoder so in theory it should last but it was also a more pricey one.

They exist

I have that exact same mouth since forever and changed it just a few months abo since the cord is causing disconnection issues and the casing is a bit scratched up and ugly to look at. But it absolutely still works perfectly, it never double or triple clicked. If I wanted to I would just need to replace the cable. They genuinely don't build them like they used to.

Then I went to search a new mouse and the new jewish trick is to market "lightweight mice for faster reactions" with shitty materials and even that retarded honeycomb shit to save on costs and apparently zoomers are gobbling this shit up because it's all i can find

switches I know of but the encoders are usually fixed. You can replace it by soldering but hotswap would be more convenient. Of course companies would lose mice sales this way.

Logitech went to shit sometime in the 2010s, but before then they actually made good hardware for cheap which is how they became the peripheral juggernaut they are today.
Trackballs are nice, only real issue is you have to clean the ball regularly just like on old ball mice.

The ridges are a weird design choice. Makes it look unfinished.

A favorite of mine is the speedlink tarios, red button is triple click, 4 sensitivity settings, and my favorite is the 2 program buttons and 1-4 buttons, I can't go back to a mouse that doesn't have number buttons.

Ploopy mouse
it’s really good and I can repair it easily if anything actually goes wrong

PSA: Never buy a mouse from Corsair. You have to run this shitty software to access features on the mouse. Even though it's barely doing anything, it'll eat up like 10-15% CPU while just sitting idle. It's been a problem with the software for years and it seems they have no intention of fixing it.

If any peripheral needs software, it's a bad peripheral.

Found that the hard way. But installed it, disabled all the rgb shit and it lets you default it straight to the mouse memory, then uninstalled it. Just uninstall it anon, there's no need to keep it installed.

Yeah it's pricey, but any mouse with optical switches is.

Can anybody reccoment a chinkium g203 copy with 8k polling rate and super/ultra light? I'm fine even with Gpro ultralight clones. Decent one I saw was the Scyrox one

chinese copycat stuff
just look up on youtube, they are third the price and almost as good as top tier shit

Razer Viper Mini lasted me 4 years and never started double clicking, I only replaced it because the scroll wheel gave up.

Replaced it with the Razer Cobra which is the new version of the viper mini, costs 20 bucks. Can recommend

lol ur such a gaymur xD

I legit don't understand the "change DPI/Sens" button
I keep my base DPI the same everywhere and then set the ingame sens to match my preferred cm/360

It'll always be death adder for me

that thumb groove

yea this was the comfiest mouse I ever used but its logishit and eventually double clicked.

the razer basilisk is similar but I don't like how their version of the thumb goove sticks out in stead of going in.

my thumb cant even properly fit in the groove and I feel like im going to accidentally hit the side buttons

It's a meme from when high DPI was marketed as advantageous but it made the mouse unusable for productivity so you needed to manually lower the DPI every time you weren't gaming.

has there finally been a shift away from the gross rubbery side grips ?

G502X wired is cheap.

Yeah but it's wired, come on now. Anyone spending serious dough on a gaming mouse isn't going to put up with that drag.

Well, you see Logitech needs that extra money for the CEO.
So make sure to spend an extra $100 on wireless.

Replacing switches on mice is exceptionally easy, even on "difficult" ones like the g604. If you can build a computer, you can easily replace switches. Don't accept purchasing an entire new product when simply swapping the switches will get you another 10 years of use out of your favourite peripheral

anyone experiment with using the sniper button in reverse ?

using really low sens but then using the sniper button to be able to easily do a 180 flick

$50 vs $200
'spending serious dough' is only for Wireless.

Nope, but you can avoid it by buying mice that are transparent or have holes.
Hate that fake rubber stuff, it doesn't last more than a few months and just looks disgusting once it begins to peel.

For guys who use a trackball + mouse, is it easy to manage both or do you have to keep changing settings such as mouse cursor speed all the time when you switch from one to another?

G305

Get a split keyboard.
A trackball would help save space, but the ergonomics of a normal keyboard are pretty shit.

buy OP1 8k to see what a small mouse feels like

feels good for a few months

eventually hand starts to get crampy or something

go back to deathadder V3

god I wish they could make a OP1 XL version that is just longer and a bigger back end.

My reyzan gamer mouse has this weird thing where moving it won't wake up my computer. I got to physically unplug and replug it into a USB slot just to get it to turn on.

50% chance the it will double click, or not click at all within a year.

Any wireless alternatives to the g305, that won't break in like 1 year?

I don't care about weight as I am not injecting myself with estrogen

Anything decent and wireless nowadays that has a pad for holding your pinkie? That's my main issue with my logitech mice, there's a thumb pad but not one on the other side. And yes my mouse grip is really weird and fucked up.

Got an old naga pro like picrel years ago. Wired/wireless, 3 interchangeable thumb interfaces (I just use numpad like in pic), and sensitivity buttons by the excellent scroll wheel. Full macro and rebinding capability.
I bought it used and it's probably like a 6+ year old model. It will probably work forever. Can't see why you'd need any more than this.

I'm using a mouse almost as old as me that I used to play unreal tournament with as little, it's so old it's yellowed like an old console

pulsar x2
has a high hump version and also a mini version if you have femboy hands like me
has optical switches so you dont get the shitty double clicking like on logitech mice

I still have mine and it's going 15+ years strong now. The day it stops working I don't know what I'll do

OP1 XL version

That's basically what the XM1/XM2 is.

I changed the cable on mine just a few weeks ago due to same issues. The legend lives on.

still not long enough

i have a left handed one of these specifically for jacking off

im so tried of always thinking about my mouse aim.

If the $20 mouse works as well as the $120 one why spend the extra 100?

the point is. it doesnt

It does. My $10 office mouse is no different than your 20000000dpi gayming mouse.

I have a cheap chinesium mouse that's 7 years old and it still works. It outlasted all the expensive GVMER shit that dies a few months after the warranty

cheap mice always last longer and are built more solidly than GVMER shit. I quit buying GVMER shit after I got tired of them crapping themselves to death a few months before or after the end of warranty

sure thing pal

Logitech shit is all double clicking garbage now.

shut the fuck up and just get a wireless Superlight. If you play games long enough to damage your mouse to the point of the switches double-clicking, you need to get up off your ass and go on a run, fatass. It's a sign

the double clicking isnt fixed just dont use your mouse bro

lol
lmao even

I used to fall for the generic office mouse meme but games felt so fucking jittery on even recommended mice. It became even more noticeable once I upgraded to a high refresh rate monitor. As soon as I bought a 1000hz polling rate mouse finally my mouse movement felt as smooth as an analogue stick.
Gaymer hardware was worth it all along.

I legit can't go back to mice that don't allow me to cheat in video games.

You are one of those retards that play with a turbo controller right?

lmao even

I use my mouse for 10 years like a true poorfag

then get Pulsar X2 which has similar guts

Businesses don't give a shit about longevity of peripherals they'll just put in an order for more.

optical switches works, M1 and M2 doesn't double click ever

it's the middle button and the side buttons that double-clicks instead

fuck this gay earth

I should have bought lifetime supply of mx518s when it was possible

Yep this, its the current thing to make shitty controllers that don't last so you will be buying another one every 3 months or so.

PS1 controllers still work.

Xbox360 controllers still work.

Modern controllers would never.

It's wired, which is far from my preference but the razer basilisk v3 has done me well so far. Look more into it though, because I've only had it for months and I don't know if it might shit itself. Maybe this is the norm, but I thought it was worth mentioning because I've had an aids mouse before where it was an issue. The mouse is a bit heavy compared to wired mouses, but it's not really an issue for me as I expected it to be, it's actually fairly comfortable, and when you lift the mouse up the tracker, or whatever you'd call it, doesn't extend to far. Once again, sure that's the norm, but I've used a cheap surf onn mouse where that was a big problem. I use rechargeable batteries for it, so I don't need to buy 800 batteries to use it.
I've also had a light wired Steelseries Rival 3, which was great, it's simple and it worked excellently for me. That I had for I think over a year, and I broke it myself, so that too, I can't say for sure won't go to shit, but I've heard the Rival mouses have a good rep.

There's my gay ass input throw it in the trash.

It's wired, which is far from my preference

I meant WIRELESS. I prefer wired. Wires is almost always better.

Wireless will only cuck you from your playtime and force you to recharge. There is no point to wireless tech on a desktop.

g305

Unless you want a double click mouse and one that fails to shoot stuff in competitive games. I have one and got this problem in less than 2 years of use.

Unless you want a double click mouse

my G305 is fine. The only thing wrong with it would be that the bottom skates have worn out from repeated use, (which was a $4USD replacement kit fix on Amazon). I have brought this mouse with me traveling to different countries, in varying conditions. It has convinced me you fags just wear the fuck out of your peripherals and get mad you have to replace them after 5 years of repeated use. The only time I got clicking issues was with cheap Chinkshit like generic mechanical keyboards. But never had it with brand name like Logitech or Razer. Yes, peripherals wear out- especially if you troon out and slam it on the desk because you suck and lose in games.

Logitech shit is all double clicking garbage now.

Literally just replace the microswitches and you have a god tier mouse that feels good and won't double click. I agree that it's super scummy that logitech won't spend the extra 20 cents to put the old switches that were in the G5 and the MX518 but there is still a perfectly viable option if you do it yourself

Where do I find good switches? Ebay?

This. Had one for a little over 2 years now and no issues.