Deltarune thread

TIME FOR SOME QUESTIONS!

Who is the Knight?

What do you think happened to Dess? Is she alive or dead?

What are some theories you personally believe?

You think Gaster will show up?

What do you think Chapter 3's Schizo will be?

What is Noelle's connection to the Schizos?

Where do you think the remaining three Chapters will take place?

Who or what is Pluey?

How is Friend involved in all this?

What's Ralsei hiding from us?

What's gonna happen with the eggs?

Why did Toriel leave Asgore?

Will Toby ever release Hard Mode?

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other thread not even archived yet

Have some patience, anon

The most important question: Will Toby finally release Penumbra Phantasm?

I forgot every single description hint or mechanism regarding the knight, prophecy, roaring, and fountains. Bravo Toby for taking 6 fucking years of your sweet weeaboo time.

friend inside me will be real

i want dess design.

Can you post a high res version of that Muffet image please
The preview on their site is so tiny

Sounds like it's time to do a fast replay

The reason why Toriel left Asgore is because Asgore kept saying that she shouldn't piss in the sink and she couldn't handle the criticism any longer.

>Who is the Knight?

Me

>What do you think happened to Dess? Is she alive or dead?

Me

>What are some theories you personally believe?

Everything I believe in stops being a theory

>You think Gaster will show up?

I will

>What do you think Chapter 3's Schizo will be?

Me

>What is Noelle's connection to the Schizos?

Me

>Where do you think the remaining three Chapters will take place?

My world

>Who or what is Pluey?

Me

>How is Friend involved in all this?

Me

>What's Ralsei hiding from us?

Me

>What's gonna happen with the eggs?

I ate them

>Why did Toriel leave Asgore?

Me

>Will Toby ever release Hard Mode?

I will

I don’t have the print resolution files if that’s what your asking.

Aw, RIP

After getting Penumbra pilled I am fully convinced that Toby is going to use it somehow in the final boss music (not just hidden in the background like it was in Undertale)
But the only way we're getting "DELTARUNE OST ??? - PENUMBRA PHANTASM" is if the true final boss is literally Gaster
youtube.com/watch?v=jTaibdPA8jU

I'm gonna do the aborted Snowgrave when the chapters come out to see if there really is a neutral route in future.

Gaster's in the thread RIGHT NOW.

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he got sidetracked by Gamefreak staff wanting to suck his dick

Knight?

My heart says Gerson, even though that's probably wrong.

Dess?

Her, Noelle, Asriel, and Kris were out later than they were meant to be in the forest. There was a man behind the tree, and then there wasn't, and there wasn't Dess either. She's still alive.

What are some theories you personally believe?

Kris hijacked the Goner Maker to steal your SOUL for himself. He knows that your SOUL is important somehow, likely due to Catti's occult lessons.

Gaster appearance?

On the main route, only so much as he did in the opening. If you go and fight the schizobosses, you can learn more, but only on the weird route will you get to peek behind the curtain.

What do you think Chapter 3's Schizo will be?

I'm still all in on FRIEND INSIDE ME.

What is Noelle's connection to the Schizos?

Noelle seems to have an affinity for finding secrets and 'breaking' games, as seen with Cat Petterz and Dragon Blazers. This caused her sister to disappear.

Where do you think the remaining three Chapters will take place?

ICE-E's, Hospital, Bunker.

Pluey?

A fake show/character in the TV Dark World. Its Light World form somehow allows you to save in the Light World (maybe a DVD?).

Friend?

A DEVICE made by Gaster. I really liked that RNG Lucky Cat interpretation posted some time ago, but that aside, I think

What's Ralsei hiding from us?

I'm guessing he's hiding lots of Dark World rules that will only be relevant later (see: Roaring). Not just for convenient plot reasons, but also he wants to make sure everyone has a good time.

What's gonna happen with the eggs?

I have no idea. The fact that they stay exactly the same in the Light and Dark Worlds imply they have stable 'meaning' between reality layers, which also means they are the same even in NEO Dark Worlds. Probably a key to getting closer to Gaster.

Why did Toriel leave Asgore?

Failure as a police chief, likely related to Dess's disappearance.

Will Toby ever release Hard Mode?

After Deltarune is finally completed.

Has anything been figured out about the chapter4 number and the "message"/red pixel?

Maybe he won't like Undertale because it will go against the message of his game or some shit, but I would really appreciate a hard mode

I love a challenge and would love an incentive to play the game again with a real challenge

I feel like a lot of fanmade schizos tend to forget the overarching part of what makes a schizo a schizo besides meeting Gaster.

The freedom part, namely how Jevil thinks he's the only one who's free and how Spamton is obsessed with gaining freedom at all costs

The devil associations, namely with Jevil being a jester Devil and Spamton being a dealmaker whose NEO design calls to mind an angel

Them being associated with amusement park/carnival rides/attractions, what with Jevil having a merry go round and Spamton NEO's fight taking place on a roller coaster ride

but that aside, I think

a-anon, where did the rest of your sentence go?

I don't really think there's much harm in having a little fun extra for people.
I think he's said he doesn't really strongly feel about "non canon actions".
That being said, Undertale's hardmode intentionally ends at sort of a soft lock at the end of THE RUINS with no way to progress

Who is the Knight?

Alvin.

What do you think happened to Dess? Is she alive or dead?

Alive but trapped in the code getting schizopilled.

What are some theories you personally believe?

1997 is the year Dess "fell".

You think Gaster will show up?

Yes.

What do you think Chapter 3's Schizo will be?

Friend Inside Me

What is Noelle's connection to the Schizos?

IDK

Where do you think the remaining three Chapters will take place?

Hospital, Flower Shop, Bunker.

Who or what is Pluey?

Save method in Light World.

How is Friend involved in all this?

EVIL Seam.

What's Ralsei hiding from us?

Lancer is real third hero.

What's gonna happen with the eggs?

Eggmobile.

Why did Toriel leave Asgore?

He was depressed after failing to find Dess and getting fired.

Will Toby ever release Hard Mode?

Never.

no Friend spread

Ya failed me

ON ALL OF OUR SOULS ICE-E WILL BE A SCHIZO BOSS IN THE FUTURE

popular streamers will begin playing Weird Route soon

Hololive will mandate their anime slaves to play Weird Route for maximum engagement the same way they were mandated to play Genocide in Undertale

most memorable moment from Weird Route will become a symbol of the game among normies who never played it themselves

some mid track from Homestuck Toby had reused for Weird Route's final boss will overshadow every song on Deltarune soundtrack

Friend ate it.
I think Friend is an agent of Gaster, used to meaningfully observe or interact with things not outside reality, since Gaster obviously can't properly manifest without things breaking. Because it's a DEVICE, I don't think it has a will of its own.

Ice-E is too public to be anything but Dark World ruler. Pizzapants' Pizza Girlfriend, on the other hand...

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He's the knight

If noelle is the angel with tattered wings, wouldn't that make her a fallen angel aka the devil?

Who is the Knight?

Kris

What do you think happened to Dess? Is she alive or dead?

She created the grand fountain and melted into it because of the determination.

What are some theories you personally believe?

Kris knight

You think Gaster will show up?

He already has in the goner maker place.

What do you think Chapter 3's Schizo will be?

Old Public Broadcast TV show hoast

What is Noelle's connection to the Schizos?

She likes to break games and the secret bosses are aware of the fact that there in a game.

Where do you think the remaining three Chapters will take place?

flower shop, Bunker and Grand fountain

Who or what is Pluey?

Chapters 3's joke character

How is Friend involved in all this?

He is spamtons familiar, Like how seam is to jevil.

What's Ralsei hiding from us?

That he knows how the story is gonna play out.

What's gonna happen with the eggs?

I dont care

Why did Toriel leave Asgore?

Because that's just how it's ment to be.

Will Toby ever release Hard Mode?

No

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Who is the Knight?

Batman.

What do you think happened to Dess?

I can't be sure.

Is she alive or dead?

Possibly alive, as some kind of shut-in or invalid.

What are some theories you personally believe?

I've never kept pace with any theories.

You think Gaster will show up?

Yes, but it won't be the Mystery Man.

What do you think Chapter 3's Schizo will be?

Wait and see.

What is Noelle's connection to the Schizos?

Wait and see.

Where do you think the remaining three Chapters will take place?

Wait and see.

Who or what is Pluey?

I don't know.

How is Friend involved in all this?

Wait and see.

What's Ralsei hiding from us?

doobie

What's gonna happen with the eggs?

Wait and see.

Why did Toriel leave Asgore?

I don't know.

Will Toby ever release Hard Mode?

I don't know.

what even are non-canon actions at this point? Neutral? if so what neutral ending? Pacifist? If so on the first playthrough, or after a neutral playthrough?

It feels weird to have played Undertale when it first released, really loved the game, and then just ignore everything about it for the next 10 years. I look into the threads now and it's just like "damn this took off!!"

So we're just never gonna find out what the deal was with thankyou page huh
Great work Toby

Uh . . . Cant Believe This Sans-Guy Was A Kris-Knight Believer The Whole Time, Kinda Cringe Tbh

fuck Hololive. I hate vtubers, they are the worst of women. All of them, especially that whore Caitlin Myers.

Are there any Undertale-adjacent mysteries (that aren’t Gaster) that you guys expect to get directly answered in Deltarune?
People still debate what the Red SOUL means to this day so I’m expecting the game to just outright say it in a dramatic scene at some point

Uh . . . Cant Believe This Sans-Guy Was A Kris-Knight Believer The Whole Time, Kinda Cringe Tbh

Kris is the knight. Your just mad that your fave was not the knight.

This is my idea for the supreme schizo

black and red colour scheme

it's a soul stealer

associated ride is the ferris wheel

can only be fought when you've collected all the schizos in your inventory

fight starts with it hijacking all the schizos and turning them into puppets

right side of an arena has a large ferris wheel with the friend in the middle, and each seat contains a schizo boss

every turn the wheel rotates to a different boss, so you're dealing with a different one each turn.

Hard Mode, pretty explicitly.
We could maybe talk about the sole story point in the game of Asriel (as Flowey) winking (not literally) at the player after the completion of the game's true ending saying if you want to leave the game alone, or start suggesting that Asriel with 7 human soulpower can perceive that you the player exist and that you not being allowed to replay the game without resetting it to a point that the game would still be functional is in actuality an explicit statement of canon rather than a little bit of icing on the cake to leave you with a formal thematic "goodbye" after the game.

Fun, too, is an acronym.

F___
U___
Nightmare

Unironically why are you faggots obsessed with this shit? Toby very clearly does not care for you. This isn't Undertale. And he will make you wait another 5 years. So why? Be serious.

I legitimately think Weird Route is too obscure and its launch point too uncomfortable to take off like genocide route.

more like

some track Toby came up with in the spot will overshadow all the shit he was saving up for deltarune years ago

LET ME ASK THE REAL QUESTIONS HERE

Will YOU be a kind player?

Will YOU be nice to Ralsei?

Is Asgore gay for Rudy?

Is Mrs. Holiday a bitch?

Are YOU going to look up online instructions on how to get the schizo bosses?

Will you WAIT for chapter 5 for another three years?

Are you going to make sure Kris and Berdley get together?

What the deal with Sans and Papyrus is.

Of Course, Fave Is Already The Knight
He's A Knight In Glow In The Dark Armor

Despite Sans and Papyrus not technically being Deltarune characters, I'm expecting some sort of elaboration on what their deal is. Also, ICE-E.

Who is the Knight?

Susie's a Dark Knight, says so right in the game.

What do you think happened to Dess? Is she alive or dead?

Alive and hidden. Her survival or safe return is not guaranteed, though.

What are some theories you personally believe?

Alphys is Susie's mother, Ralsei is Flowey, this tale may have a happy ending

What do you think Chapter 3's Schizo will be?

Lanino and Elnina, but I hope for Purple Dragon Lady

Who or what is Pluey?

That blue Pipis-looking thing from obscure webcomic someone found?

What's Ralsei hiding from us?

Nothing he's aware of himself. If he's involved in any conspiracy against Kris/(You), he is an unwitting pawn

What's gonna happen with the eggs?

We used one to save Asgore from dying of malnutrition and another to prevent Sans from going out of business. We will continue using them to help people in these trying times.

Why did Toriel leave Asgore?

Something to do with Dess disappearance.

Is Asgore gay for Rudy?

i genuinely think whatever the fuck was going on between those two was a major reason why toriel divorced him on this universe

Are YOU going to look up online instructions on how to get the schizo bosses?

anyone who does this didnt beat the game, were gonna do this like before the internet where you wandered aimlessly until you ran into a secret

holds a sphere with yellow spikes

Okay, you're doing that on purpose now

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Are YOU going to look up online instructions on how to get the schizo bosses?

The Schizo bosses have been pretty easy to find so far. Why would I need a guide?

What does this even mean

homestuck fan has never heard of a fuckin mace before

I be neutral. And will do everything in my power to avoid the homo shite.

That's Called A "Weapon", A Flail To Be Exact
Not A Spiky Egg

Will YOU be a kind player?

I like the Snowgrave route, so no.

Will YOU be nice to Ralsei?

That nigga is hiding shit and pretending, so no.

Is Asgore gay for Rudy?

Yes.

Is Mrs. Holiday a bitch?

Yes.

Are YOU going to look up online instructions on how to get the schizo bosses?

Ehh... maybe?

Will you WAIT for chapter 5 for another three years?

No lol. Deltarune deserves to be pirated, fuck Toby

Are you going to make sure Kris and Berdley get together?

The fuck? No.

Will YOU be a kind player?

No. People from higher level realities can do whatever they want to lower level realities.

Will YOU be nice to Ralsei?

See above. But, I will still hug him.

Is Asgore gay for Rudy?

No, but it would be funny.

Is Mrs. Holiday a bitch?

I don't think she beats Noelle with a belt, but I do think she demands a lot from her and is pretty overbearing.

Are YOU going to look up online instructions on how to get the schizo bosses?

Not for my first run.

Will you WAIT for chapter 5 for another three years?

I have no choice. Toby has me by the nuts.

Are you going to make sure kris and Berdley get together?

What a strange question.

'fraid so

Something i always wanted to know.
What happens in Undertale if you play the game normally through the Ruins, and then when you get to Snowdin or Waterfall, you start "grinding"? IE trying to do genocide but you've already spared Toriel and other Ruin monsters.
Is it possible to get the "But Nobody Came" screen and a music change? Will you run out of monsters to kill but never get that screen? What happens?

You are legitimately delusional. Weird Route is already well-known in fandom at large, it's not some kind of secret club.

Will YOU be a kind player?

Yes.

Will YOU be nice to Ralsei?

Not unless I can see his blacked out angry face.

Is Asgore gay for Rudy?

No.

Is Mrs. Holiday a bitch?

She's a doe.

Are YOU going to look up online instructions on how to get the schizo bosses?

No.

Will you WAIT for chapter 5 for another three years?

Ha.

Are you going to make sure Kris and Berdley get together?

No.

I like the Snowgrave route, so no.

based.

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I think it's the reverse. Asgore is sweet, but I think he has a bad tendency to gift instead of actually spending time with and being emotionally open with people, existentially using flowers as a shortcut. He does it with both Toriel and Rudy so I don't necessarily see it as a romantic gesture in of itself. Rudy is the one thay outright calls to be romanced with, even if its in a joke manner. Carol is either too distant to notice or formed the marriage with Rudy out of convenience, while Toriel is the only in the group to notice what's going on and statt getting suspicious.

Is Asgore gay for Rudy?

I feel like that happened during their college years and not during their marriage unless everyone's a swinger.

I'm of the impression that Asgore is so suggestible that Rudy suggested it would be funny, and did not realize that it would mortally wound him and put him in the hospital.

Asgore gave Rudy AIDS theory

Pretty sure you could literally look this shit up.

Will YOU be a kind player?

Yeh

Will YOU be nice to Ralsei?

Probably

Is Asgore gay for Rudy?

Yesn't

Is Mrs. Holiday a bitch?

Most Likely

Are YOU going to look up online instructions on how to get the schizo bosses?

Yes

Will you WAIT for chapter 5 for another three years?

Waiting . . . Its All There Is

Are you going to make sure Kris and Berdley get together?

Abso-Fucking-Lutely

you get the "but nobody came" message but you're locked into a neutral ending.

Who said anything about disease?

All my lightnas goners, lightna heil gaster

Its IMPOSSIBLE to have, mysteries, nowadays

because of no-osy people, like you!

Who is the Knight

Multiple people, each of whom were manipulated into opening fountains by the actual mastermind who told them they could achieve whatever they desired through them. Alvin will be the one to open a fountain in 4 because he was convinced that he could bring Gerson back to life through it, or at least talk with him one final time.

Dess?

Alive, trapped in the same place as Gaster.

What are some theories you personally believe?

Don't feel like there's enough info to really commit to any long term theories.

You think Gaster will show up

Abso-fucking-lutely. Probably not in 3+4 though his presence will be more felt than earlier chapters.

Chapter 3 Schizo

Either a cowboy from a cancelled show or FRIEND.

Noelle's connection to the schizos?

None to the individual Schizos specifically outside of unintentional interactions with Spamton and FRIEND but both groups are being led along by the same being.

Where do you think the remaining three chapters will take place?

Flower shop, Town Festival, Bunker.

Pluey?

I have no fucking idea.

How is FRIEND involved in all of this?

Schizo entity #3 or #4

What's Ralsei hiding from us?

No idea yet, but I strongly believe that he means well but whatever he's planning will result in a sacrifice the player wouldn't want to make. Furthermore he is absolutely aware of our presence and name, as evidenced by (probably) him naming Castle Town after us.

What's gonna happen with the eggs?

Something allowing The Man Behind The Tree to warp reality in some fashion, likely benevolent given you can't get the second egg in Weird route.

Why did Toriel leave Asgore?

Something happened where he failed to protect Dess, both Carol and Toriel blamed him for it.

Will Toby ever release Hard Mode

Hard Mode will be repackaged as a major update to Undertale when Chapter 7 comes out. In one of the Deltarune routes there will not only be chapter hopping fuckery but whole ass game hopping fuckery.

Who did Sans know who was Frisk's "type"?

You're uh, very, determined, aren't you?

you'll never give up, even if there's, uh,

absolutely NO benefit to persevering whatsoever.

if I can make that clear.

No matter what, you'll just keep going.

Not out of any desire for good or evil...

But just because you think you "can".

and because you "can"...

you "have to."

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Asgore getting Rudy flowers is supposedly a romantic gesture according to some people

He literally OWNS a flower shop wtf why would he NOT give a friend flowers?

He's dealt with Flowey before, who is a parallel to a player who did Neutral->Pacifist->Genocide

Wasn't it implied to be Flowey who dicked around because he had save states and Sans can read the faces of time travelers

Did Sans deal with Flowey? I thought only Flowey dealt with Sans in a reset timeline.

touchless internet children don't understand social norms or friendships

Not shocked.

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he got him a bouquet of roses. if you can't see the romantic undertones that's on you.

I mean it tracks with the type of person to play Undertale/Deltarune

It's less the flowers and more the context. We didn't invent the romantic subtext, Rudy and Asgore literally reference the Beauty and the Beast.

Which also involves flowers and something bad happening when the flower wilts. His friend is dying

I wonder why Genocide players care so much about unlocking new lore if they can't even understand it properly anyway.

That's true. I guess it's just the 'deja vu' that carries over from resets, then

It wouldn't matter because Sans would just look at Flowey's face and call him a freak, like what he says after you kill him and go back to kill him again.

Because it's gay af duh
Get him a 6-pack of beer like a man

Sans being a Time Cop(?) and having come to Undertale from Deltarune feels very blatantly foreshadowed, but it's also really hard to see how the story actually goes in that direction. There's no way it's going to be as simple and direct as "Sans and Papyrus have a secret tunnel to The Bunker in their house and they're working with Gaster down there" that would be fucking stupid.
Understanding Kris as Deltarune's counterpart to Chara could also lead to a better understanding of Chara's characterization in Undertale. And the nature of the SOUL and our relation to Kris in Deltarune could give us more clarity on the nature of the player in Undertale.

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This. Blame the perverts and tumblrinas for this.

What i struggle with understanding is that Sans claims to have no memory of any reset, yet he acts like he has some permanent memory of dealing with some time traveler murderer. But if that were true, there would be some extant evidence of Flowey killing a bunch of people without resetting. But the monsters never talk about anything like that happening.
Sans also talks about how he's given up on going to the surface or "going back" because time will reset again, but if he has no time-independent memories, he should have no idea that his "try to befriend the anomaly theory" failed. (Assuming the player did pacifist first; if an edgy player hops right into genocide, then Sans completely missed his hypothesis.)

Multiple people, each of whom were manipulated into opening fountains by the actual mastermind who told them they could achieve whatever they desired through them.

This guy gets it, I've been backing that theory, too

Look, I believe in comforting a man when he feels like crying, letting him have a shoulder to cry on, occasional hugs, bromances, etc.
But giving a guy a bouquet of flowers, even just one lone flower, is perhaps unironically the gayest thing you can ever do before sex and/or a confession.

Is she alive or dead?

Has she thoughts within her head? We'll just pass her there. Why should we even care?

Anyways, I think she was turned to steel in the great magnetic field when she traveled time for the future of mankind.

I too played Pentiment

FROM UNDERTALE
TO DELTARUNE
How many times do we have to go through this?

Toby should stop shilling for v-sluts.

That's actually the party members from Earthbound in the picture, Sans is Ness

I feel like its mostly because of how Rudy and Asgore talk about one another. He is Asgore's Rudolph and Asgore is his Santa after all.

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he clearly has ways of accessing the information, even if he doesn't directly have access to the memrories

he never seen males comfortable with their sexuality making gay jokes

People used to unironically believe this

This was actually my first thought but its UT/DR and this Asgore talking about his dead best friend.

To be fair, "Sans is Ness" is probably GameTheory's single most lampooned miss ever. And the backlash was immediate.

Right? He's clearly Steven. After Not Surviving, of course.

I hate Vtubers so fucking much. Evil succubus women manipulating vulnerable and lonely young men. Riding trends. Grifting.
A sign of the times, I guess.

Toby is like an inch away from crossing the Rubicon on polyamory but he's hesitating super hard and only hinting at it because he knows it won't fly with most of the audience lol. He does it with Rudy/Asgore and also a few other minor characters. The gay and trans shit is tolerable, but that kind of thing would tarnish the characters and world significantly and he knows it.

You mentioned tarnished and Asgore in the same sentence. I don't think either of these characters can get more tarnished than they already are with one most likely dying again and the other being eternally divorced in the multiverse. Not to mention the egg husband shit and Mrs.Holiday clearly wearing the pants in the family.

the homo/troon combo already tarnishes them in my eyes.

no Underfag to shatter every bone in your body with how much they love you (no homo)

You can always go lower, believe me.

They'll be gone soon. Total vtuber death. They are the biggest scam of the last 5 years.

yeah, Toby would make more troons to scare the normal people away.

He's dealt with Flowey before

No he hasn't, Flowey avoids being discovered by Sans for obvious reasons and Sans is only vaguely suspicious of a "talking flower" from what Papyrus has told him

yet he acts like he has some permanent memory of dealing with some time traveler murderer.

He's aware that some entity is resetting/destroying timelines and is hyper-vigilant about time travelers based on this knowledge.

he should have no idea that his "try to befriend the anomaly theory" failed

Sans doesn't know what you know but he does know what his plan to deal with you was. He knows that you're familiar with his shtick based on your (lack of) reaction at the start of the game and he also knows that you didn't immediately try to kill him despite killing everyone else, so you must have at least been willing to hear him out once.
Sans is constantly appealing to your better nature even mid-fight because he knows actually confronting you is hopeless, and all he can hope to do is change your mind about what you're doing.
There's a good video that goes into detail illustrating Sans's strategy for dealing with the anomaly, I don't entirely agree with its conclusions but it does a good job of establishing the position he's in and the logic of his actions.
youtube.com/watch?v=ffmccP-l66U

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Lower how? The people who would have problems with them being a thing in the past would have problems with them now not being traditionally male characters. We've had several anons already complain about that throughout the weekend and for years.

hope he does

As many times as it takes you to stop being a retard.

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You can't imagine how a divorced man could go lower than simply fruitlessly pining for his ex-wife? Do you have any idea what men in real life have been known to do in that scenario?

My current thought is

Deltarune Weird route happens, Hometown and the entire world is being raped to death by the roaring and the Deltarune Anomaly/player

Gaster, at this point just a normal scientist with galaxy brained intelligence who has seen the fourth wall and knows of the existence of alternate dimensions through his research, gathers up his boys Sans and Papyrus along with a small handful of survivors such as Monster Kid, Bird Man, Clam Girl, etc.

decides to use his experimental portal to try and escape to a new dimension and succeeds, though the new timeline is also kind of fucked what with everyone being trapped underground. Some of the survivors also have to stay inside the lab at all times, as encountering this new timeline's version of themselves could have messy implications.

Decides to put his knowledge to use trying to break the barrier while also hoping to find a way to return home and unfuck the Deltarune timeline.

The Incident happens, Gaster is shattered across time and space (perhaps by his own design), most of the other survivors from the Deltarune universe are also lost in the ensuing explosion becoming Goners. All that remains are Sans and Papyrus.

Sans mostly gives up but still has a shred of hope, occasionally making baby steps in carrying on Gaster's work. The picture in the lab is of Kris, Susie, and Noelle/Ralsei drawn by a very young Papyrus from before shit went down.

San's hidden distrust of the anomaly/player in Undertale comes from his bitterness over a similar being completely fucking up his original home.

ralsei mating press

And he is the one doing the pressing

-ing tasque manager

I think Gaster has to "shatter" before Deltarune, since the reason he seems to be aware of the player and all that meta stuff is because he was "shattered" and was no longer a part of baseline reality.
The alternative is that it's a timeloop: Deltarune Gaster is a normal guy who gets arcane knowledge from some unknown entity, uses that knowledge to go to Undertale, then is "shattered" and enlightens his 'past' self.

i want her to be very cute, very fuzzy, and chubby

The problem with "the Deltarune world is destroyed" is that Sans implies he has a place to go back to and that it would be more desirable than his current situation, which seems like it would be pretty alright without the existential crisis
Also I don't think there's an alternate universe Gaster/Gaster time paradox situation, I think all possible Gasters were retro-causally "shattered" across all timelines. It's no longer possible for Gaster to exist as a normal character in a video game, even where traces of his existence linger.

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SEX WITH BRATTY

Will YOU be a kind player?

kris is my boy, i'm doing it for him

Will YOU be nice to Ralsei?

i don't trust him, but i won't antagonize him for no reason

Is Asgore gay for Rudy?

no, some guys are just bros like that

Is Mrs. Holiday a bitch?

almost certainly with the knowledge we have

Are YOU going to look up online instructions on how to get the schizo bosses?

not unless i can't figure it out by the time i get to the chapter boss, jevil and spamton weren't that hard to figure out if you go exploring

Will you WAIT for chapter 5 for another three years?

what's another three to the seven?

Are you going to make sure Kris and Berdley get together?

no, i will get my boy his lizard gf

Toriel dies in Chapter 3

fuzzy cwitters

Reminder that Kris saw ICE-E and got beaten by Dess for it

Not, but Undyne may lose her eye.

it's a timeloop: Deltarune Gaster is a normal guy who gets arcane knowledge from some unknown entity, uses that knowledge to go to Undertale, then is "shattered" and enlightens his 'past' self.

That's what I'm thinking. The man behind the tree is Undertale Gaster attempting to plant the seeds (or in this case eggs) of change.

*starts stimming violently*

There's vtubers with more guts than most anons here

Quite pathetic that woman can get through Genocide but not (you).

shut up about vtubers

noelle vtuber

The Gaster who contacted us has definitely experienced Undertale already, and depending on how literally you want to interpret Toby's RP sessions might just have a real-time or even real-world perspective.
I think "before" and "after" are meaningless here though, since we're talking about someone who exists outside of time, like us. Gaster knowing about us searching for him in Undertale wouldn't imply that Deltarune comes after Undertale, in terms of the continuity of those two worlds.

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To like Bratty you need a taste so shit it actually overflows back into good taste.

this is the problem with violent routes we were trying to talk about yesterday but you faggots wouldn't listen

women are ruthless creatures with no empathy

What else is new

Did you forget that Toby had a collab with at least one Hololive talent and probably two? They're not going to force their talents to play the game to follow the trend, they have a professional relationship with him and they're going to want to kiss ass to one of the most well known game devs in the world lol.

so noelle at the very least was in the ch1 dark world in the past, right?
she drew the trees from the forest in therapy, presumably kris also did so ch1 must've been nutty from his perspective

They're not going to force their talents to play the game to follow the trend, they have a professional relationship with him and they're going to want to kiss ass to one of the most well known game devs in the world lol

Those are not mutually exclusive things.

Fuck empathy. Human kid needs to survive against a world that hates him.

I suppose not, but it is likely they would encourage their talents to play it even if it wasn't trendy. But if he was a stranger and it wasn't trendy they wouldn't care.

People should be asking why Gaster thinks Kris and Noelle (and Susie) are so "wonderful"

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Fuck empathy

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Don't want to hear about v-slutsHe shouldn't have. They're roaches and the most deranged leftists in the entertainment world.

force

LMAO nigga Toby fucking LOVES MARINE
He is gonna let them all the fucking perms they want to play it hassle free.

Shit I bet he would let Mori do her own cover

Wrong. Kris was just drawing dicks. And Noelle was drawing boobs (@ )( @)

Even your blessed Christ would not accept the unrepentant sinner. Looking out for your own people is not exclusive to Jews.

gerson

but not alvin

what's with that?

Well that should be easy to figure out. What do those three have in common that we know about that they don't have in common with any of those other characters? Having such a diverse data set let's you eliminate tons of stuff right off the bat.

Yeah, and he's a pathetic worm for doing so. The only thing a vtuber deserves is the rope, for mass fraud.

Explain why the clam girl told you would be good friends with Suzy and why it sounds so close to Susie

Honestly the more I think about it the more it seems like Undertale was part 1-5 Jojo while deltarune is part 6 forward

This, empathy is for the weak to beg for. Mercy is all the weak are allowed to have, if the strong choose so.

Kris and Noelle's connection to Gaster is crystal-clear
But what about Susie?

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He was shattered across time and space. He knows the prophecy of the Delta Rune because he knows what happens in the future. Even without the intervention of the player, Kris, Susie, and Noelle will fall into the Dark World.

Who is the Knight?

Probably Kris.

What do you think happened to Dess? Is she alive or dead?

Trapped in a dark world somewhere. Either that, or she got goner'd.

What are some theories you personally believe?

You think Gaster will show up?

Of course. Probably near the end.

What do you think Chapter 3's Schizo will be?

Who knows, honestly.

What is Noelle's connection to the Schizos?

I have no clue.

Where do you think the remaining three Chapters will take place?

QC's diner? The pizza place? Asgore's shop? The bunker? Idk.

Who or what is Pluey?

Probably some sort of Nubert-type character.

How is Friend involved in all this?

Maybe he's some sort of white rabbit type of guy? Follows us around when we're looking for shadow crystals.

What's Ralsei hiding from us?

The truth about the prophecy, about darkners, about dark fountains, probably.

What's gonna happen with the eggs?

Probably a flag system for the REAL ending.

Why did Toriel leave Asgore?

Maybe it's like Undertale, where she left him due to him being a coward.

Will Toby ever release Hard Mode?

Lol

Seems to be more mental illness in this thread than usual tonight

Someone brought up Toby's mental illness of simping for virtual lesbians.

The Shadow Crystal might be an insight to an alternative reality, maybe one the player was not involved in?

Susie has her own bullshit going on that we don't even have hints of. She is definitely not just a member of the party by happenstance but we know nothing about why she's important right now.

Can you take your meds please

JockingtonCHADS how are we holding up?

doesn't kris see through his hand with the ch1 crystal? based on that one and this one can assume it shows a world without kris, but we need more to know for sure

There's just something special about a woman who is such an absolute dumpster fire.

the shadow crystal shows what the world with (you) instead of kris looks like

Impossible. If it were so then Susie would be in my bed at all times and unable to glare at anyone.

Found this while sorting through photos and thought it might make you fags laugh

I am sorry for yurifagging, but I just realized that she could be a much better partner for Noelle than Susie. Noelle seems to enjoy being pranked by Kris, and Bratty can give it to her in heaps.

i'm replaying the demo to get a save ready and there's a ton of shit i forgot about
susie mentioning that lancer laughs like santa claus is activating my schizophrenia and makes me think he leaned that from noelle/ dess in the past

Bratty doesn't have any traits that Noelle would like beyond being physically attractive.

It's just a reference to some old game where the villain laughed like that. I thought it was Zelda but I can't find it now.

Am I retarded for taking this long to realise that Asriel will never return the dragon book because he spunked on it?

Dummy

Noelle's Laugh Is "Fahahaha!"
And Lancer's "Hohoho!!!/Ho ho ho!!!"

tall

dominant

is going to tease her mercilessly

I hope we get more chances to NOT have Ralsei in the party.
I hope we get more dialogue choices that actually shut him down instead if him spinning my answer into something else like that's not a piece of shit move.
I hope he fucking dies I fucking hate Ralsei

calm down kris
stick to the plan

You're pretty slow, we have discussed this possibility already. If Immodest Purple Dragon ever makes an appearance, she will either try to force Kris to pay child support, or mistake Ralsei for the father of her children.

I have a different theory for that but no one will like it so i'm gonna keep it to myself. I'll just say i think you're thinking about it the wrong way around.

No seriously, why is he so focused on lesbians?

What meds? The simping was shown publicly.

stop being such a little bitch and just share your theory already.

she drew the trees from the forest in therapy

Please don't just make stuff up, you're going to confuse people.

even if she were a gay, bratty's whole thing is that she's a bitch with a heart of bitch, there's no gold underneath like there is with susie to come out in a ferris wheel ride or to get all mushy and wonder why she's thinking of noelle while making gingerbread cookies. she doesn't even prank, she's just mean and enjoys using people. HOWEVER, by shipping her with noelle your yurifagging is overshadowed by /ll/ which to some people may be even more "based"

if anything noelle doesn't even like regular attractive women considering her obsession is manly eggplant Susie and her search history involves "female santa claus"

Because he's deranged.

Because he's a lesbian.

Who? (You)?

is it that noelle's obsession with christmas comes from the dark world?
the issue with that is that all the holidays are obsessed with it from what we can tell, although noelle might be using it more to cope

bratty's whole thing is that she's a bitch with a heart of bitch

And that's exactly what Noelle wants.

check it out, beavis. he's a thespian.

he didn't go to therapy with the poor children

you have some catching up to do

They're the 3 lightner party members.

Who is the Knight?

The Goner Vessel.

What do you think happened to Dess? Is she alive or dead?

Fell into the lake and ended up in the Abyss. A song can be heard from the lake I can only assume she's alive, likely in a dark sleep.

What are some theories you personally believe?

A lot of them

You think Gaster will show up?

ENTRY 17 says enough.

What do you think Chapter 3's Schizo will be?

WEATHER ALWAYS STICKS TOGETHER it will be rain.

What is Noelle's connection to the Schizos?

None at all

Where do you think the remaining three Chapters will take place?

Chapter 5 will be still at the church, we'll fight the angel. Chapter 6 and 7 will be the Lake and the Bunker, leading both to the Darker than Dark Abyss.

Who or what is Pluey?

No idea.

How is Friend involved in all this?

A very powerful glitch that came from the Abyss. It was meant to feed off of Noelle's PAIN, but she had none to offer and left.

What's Ralsei hiding from us?

Literally everything.

What's gonna happen with the eggs?

You'll have to eat all the eggs.

Why did Toriel leave Asgore?

Likely a police case that went wrong and it spiralled down from there.

Will Toby ever release Hard Mode?

Yes.

No it isn't, did you play the game

"female santa claus"

Wouldn't that technically be Toriel? Since Asgore used to dress up as Santa and goat monsters canonically look very similar to one another (or at least those two do).

No I don't, I know about the website. You're making a ton of assumptions about that webpage.

Do we know if Noelle is only into physical abuse and intimidation, or if she gets off to like, findom and gaslighting and stuff too?

guys i think kris might be the knight

The full name of Noelle's sister is Dess Holiday (December Holiday AKA Christmas) Dess went missing on a Snowstorm but the exacts of it are unknown. We just know she was an asshole to Kris.

I think they're just writing fanfic now.

How did he make the second fountain? Berdly and Noelle were sitting in their chairs with their books out when they went in.

Yes, I did, and I saw her turning into walking waterfall every time she thinks about Susie abusing her.

b-b-but muh ferris wheel

Your passive aggression is annoying.

I don't know if she gets off to it, but she actually likes it when you make Kris prank her on normal route.

I admit it; I'm the Knight. Can you all stop fighting now?

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borb

was she? it sounded like kris was being a goblin to noelle and dess smacked him with a wiffle bat
that's pretty reasonable, and if she wanted to actually hurt him a wiffle bat wouldn't be the weapon of choice

no they weren't, they aren't sitting in chairs at the end and their books are in a pile just like they would be if they'd been carried.
thinking the knight made the fountain while noelle and berdly were in the lab is retarded for many reasons.

Is this Kris on the night of Dess' disappearance?

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It's 2 AM where I live and I'm drunk so I'm gonna rant a bit.

I hate when people ignore every aspect of Noelle's character just because she likes Susie. She's a deep, deep character with a lot of nuisance in her dialogue and lore and just because she's into Susie that doesn't mean that's what her character boils down to. I hate when people just assume that she's a lesbian and that's everything there is to know about her. Plus, she might not even be lesbian since there's hints of something beyond friendship between her and Kris. (who the characters refers to them in neutral pronouns and it's not because of the player.) I think everyone who has shrugged at Noelle should replay the chapters with a new mentality for her since her sexuality doesn't define her.

If Kris said it was real, then ICE-E was real. I would rather believe my boy than some random abusive deer.

Never noticed how there's only two chairs until now

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But what if Kris was ICE-E all along?

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How many people are actually going to experience the Playstation version of the game? I can see a sizable number of people playing the Switch 2 version (mostly the Japanese players) but I imagine most people are just going to get the PC release.

Maybe, juuuust maybe, Tobias shouldn't have made her a lesbianca in the first place.

There are also no chairs in the classroom I'll chalk this up to Toby being lazy.

I don't have time to play RPGs at home so def will be playing it on the Switch 2 myself.

Plus, she might not even be lesbian

Breh, the "Hot female Santas" thing was basically Toby slapping a lesbian flag on her.
It wouldn't specify "female" Santas if she weren't only into women.

Yes.
I won't be rude to him.
Not anymore at least.
Probably.
No, unless I miss them for too long.
I don't think we have much of a choice.
Beat it nigga.

Howdy! Can you babysit my daughter? Just play with her and make sure to feed her. Leave the leftover chicken in the freezer when you're done. *click*

Disturbing if so

How many people are actually going to experience the Playstation version of the game?

Some hyper autists who are convinced that the trophies are super important.

The chairs are all stacked in the other classroom for some fucking reason, you can find them after the Dark World (the Throne of the Gods).

smiles and pain

i'm expecting DEVICE_ICE_E at some point

Will YOU be a kind player?

No.

Will YOU be nice to Ralsei?

No.

Is Asgore gay for Rudy?

If so he'll go to the grave sooner than Rudy.

Is Mrs. Holiday a bitch?

Like-minded individual.

Are YOU going to look up online instructions on how to get the schizo bosses?

No.

Will you WAIT for chapter 5 for another three years?

Chapter 5 is coming with 3 and 4.

Are you going to make sure Kris and Berdley get together?

Frozen chicken nuggets.

the price of [[Freedom]]

ICE-E is real, but kris probably didn't see it when he said he did

feed her

oh yes

I want Kriselle to happen because it's a more progressive pairing than Suselle. Lesbians are pretty much a male gaze fanservice at this point, plus they have unpleasant connotations due to their connection with TERF movement. Meanwhile Kris having relationship with Noelle would be a much welcome representation of non-binary folx.

>Chapter 5 is coming with 3 and 4.

Doesn't Know

>Frozen chicken nuggets.

REALLY Doesn't Know

People who use a Playstation as their primary gaming device, presumably. You don't think PS players play UTDR?

Unironically don't be too surprised if it shows up in the Abyss

Kris wants to fuck the purple Barney, turns out I do have a choice on the matter.

DEVICE_E

purple Barney

Anon, Barney is already purple...

I thought snoys only played over the shoulder moviegames.

gato....

hang yourself, tranny.

Go play some pedo H-games if you want to goon to underage lesbians so much, chud. Kris is non-binary, his pronouns are they/them and he will get the girl.

his pronouns are they/them and he will get the girl.

seconding this request

Yeah.

black men out of nowhere

Sorry it's the lack of sleep speaking

it's schizophrenic, please understand

Kris has a lot in common with a certain H-game pedo protagonist, pronouns included assuming you're not being schizophrenic

DS3 Quote

It's the truth. The world does not revolve around the US, and this is the proof. The rest of the world knows it's nonsense to be able to get fucked at 18, but not to drink at 18.

How is each Deltarune girl in the bed?

Susie

You may think she's a freak in the sheets, but she's lazy, asocial and inexperienced, so she will most likely just starfish.

Noelle

Very submissive and afraid to take initiative. Will just starfish.

Catti

Will be very willing to experiment... for all of two minutes before she gets tired and starfishes.

Catty

Will get tired from climbing onto a bed and starfish immediately.

Toriel

Sex in missionary position for procreation only with lights turned off. i.e. starfishes.

Alphys

...Do I need to say it?

Weird fetish, Toriel would be a monster under the sheets btw, absolutely no starfishing

I don't really understand why the US has this law for drinking at such a late age, when drinking irresponsibly is a crime already and teens in the US do it anyway.

Gaster will win the Platonic Krisbowl

To be fair, age of consent seems to be lower than legal drinking age in most countries. It's just that both of them tend to be lower compared to US (and California specifically).

The world does not revolve around the US

You're on an American made site right now in a thread about an American game. See you tomorrow retard lmao

about an American game

wwwwwwww

japan's drinking age is 20 but you trannies never bring that up.

Japan is retarded for it too dumbass.

Gaster is the one singing Don't Forget
He has such a beautiful voice

you cant drink but you can bring another life into this world that you have to take care of or the tax payers (with the latter being that the child grows up in fucked conditions leading to more shit that society has to deal with)

clown laws, age of consent should be 30

japan has a shit ton of laws that were enforced on them by the us when the occupation started

pluey is the boss with the switch 2 gimmick, it’s blatantly obvious

*scuttles in with a friend inside me*

me dont know
and me dont cares
me only care about spamton
the rest can go up in the airs!

me inside friend

Legal drinking age for beer and wine is 16 in Austria, spirits is from 18

Okay, new theory - what if we're going to have Pinocchio plot with Ralsei? Obviously, it's not his actual goal to become a real boy right now, but it's going to be his endgame anyway. Spamton references Pinocchio outright, and while he is more connected with Noelle, the items he can give you benefit Ralsei the most. Ralsei also has by far the oddest reaction to Spamton - while it is usually interpreted as his attempt to keep us in the dark, it may actually be the other way around - he is trying to chase away the thoughts that are uncomfortable for his own worldview. He was doing lots of self-reflection in Chapter 2, after all. Finally, there's Susie talking about him during sleep-over, saying how he looks like Toriel and can pass off as long lost cousin. Obviously it's a hint at her own escapism problems, but it may be a foreshadowing for what could actually happen in the end. I don't think Toriel would mind adopting Ralsei, considering her onsetting empty nest syndrome.

Does ANYONE have the archived threads from when Snowgrave was found?

Wait, forgot the pic. Anyway, breaking your strings may mean different things for all three of the characters - for Kris it may be either breaking free from (You) or his past, for Susie it's about breaking free from herself, and for Ralsei it's about breaking free from Dark Fountain.

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the first noel...
the angel did say...

This thread is too full of moralfagging, not enough FRIEND posts.
I forgot to save them and just made a folder, please help

Reminder that FRIEND is the one who wrote the ultra rare valentines letter, not Gaster.

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And to think that just a week ago people seriously thought that Toby had peaked with Spamton, and then he drove everyone insane with a doodle sprite THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE GAME

Who is the Knight?

Can't be sure. Anywhere between the Vessel, Kris, Father Alvin, Noelle or a new character.

What do you think happened to Dess? Is she alive or dead?

Alive, she's the voice in the unused strings. Bunker-related shenanigans.

What are some theories you personally believe?

Its very nature is shrouded in darkness.

You think Gaster will show up?

Not in these chapters, maybe in Chapter 6.

What do you think Chapter 3's Schizo will be?

The final boss on Asriel's computer.

What is Noelle's connection to the Schizos?

Don't know.

Where do you think the remaining three Chapters will take place?

Guaranteed festival, maybe bunker. Don't know for the others.

Who or what is Pluey?

No clue.

How is Friend involved in all this?

Gaster's device? Feeds off pain? Definitely related to Spamton and Noelle.

What's Ralsei hiding from us?

Another reason why creating fountains is a bad idea.

What's gonna happen with the eggs?

No clue.

Why did Toriel leave Asgore?

Used Asriel's college money to open up his flower shop.

Will Toby ever release Hard Mode?

LOL

Friend sex

may 12th....the wait...
....continues.....

i too am sexually attracted to the feline form

Ralsei
Dead
You don't need to know
Not physically
An audience
Nothing
Police station, Asgore's garden, either the lake or the mayor's office
Don't know don't care
Don't know don't care
He's trying to not break our sense of immersion so he keeps meta shit to a low level
Probably a joke
She's a bitch, like in Undertale
Maybe

I believe in knight mayor

So what exactly does a cat have to do with TV or kris’ house?

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Cat Petterz RPG

berdly is rotting in a storage closet and you're LAUGHING

What if Catti only hates Catty because Catty gifted their shared videogame to Asriel.

Why does Reverse Undertale Theory still have deniers in CURRENT YEAR?!

What purpose would it serve?

The eggs are actually balls.
It's a reference to that SFM song of Undertale
If you don't have all of the eggs be the end Sans shows up and rip off your balls, only if you got enough eggs can you trade those to keep your nutsack intact.
That's my theory.

The chapter I'm looking forward to the most is chapter 6. Feels like it's going to be the calm before the storm of chapter 7, so it has the best opportunity to focus on atmosphere and being weird for the sake of being weird.

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window text not in all caps

Lame.

Kris.

She’s lost in the DEEPTHS.

Reverse Undertale and Chess Theory.

In Chapter 6.

Asriel’s unfinished game final boss.

Noelle is the Angel and the one who can break reality.

Flower Shop or Festival for 5, 6 is the Bunker, 7 is the world itself becoming the ANGEL’S HEAVEN.

Light World SAVE POINT or the special room minigame.

He's Gaster's friend.

That the prophecy was made by Gaster as the game's script.

Be a reference to Chrono Trigger's time egg.

He's the reason Dess went missing.

No.

This is literally what Toby intends btw.