It's now confirmed that Nintendo is intentionally trying to kill off physical releases. They're only making 64GB game cards available to devs and forcing everyone else to use key cards. My guess is that they're going to completely phase out physical releases halfway through this generation and make everything a key card as MicroSD cards get cheaper and higher capacity.
It's now confirmed that Nintendo is intentionally trying to kill off physical releases...
It's over
PS5
900$ (800$ console + 100$ online) for 480p 35 fps and zero games
Xbox
850$ (730$ console + 120$ for online) for 360p 25 fps and zero games
Steam Deck
PC but with 50% performance for 90% price
Switch 2
470$ (450$ console + 20$ online) for 4k 60 fps for shitload of kino games
but why? does nintendo really need to cut corners EVERY time they can? are they really saving that much money? won't people be drawn more towards digital thanks to sales bundles and all of that bullcrap that has already driven us away from physical?
Switch 2
470$ (450$ console + 20$ online) for 4k 60 fps
In what fucking world
In this one
Jogo digital apen-ACK
thanks to leaks from Arc System Works
they're throwing their source under the bus?
They haven't even shown a single good exclusive yet.
The logical thing to do is to put the English version of a game on the cartridge and put all the other languages on the servers so anyone who want could download one language.
It will also lower the burden on the servers.
All exclusives are amazing tho
They're only making 64GB game cards available to devs
64GB is plenty. Have you morons completely forgot about data compression? Devs are so lazy these days that they don't bother compressing audio.
Sony did it for vita memory cards and nobody complained
It's only wrong when Nintendo does it.
they've been trying to kill physical games for like over a decade at this point. it'll happen eventually.
The point isn't that 64GB isn't enough, it's that they aren't offering smaller, cheaper capacities.
the company with the highest ratio of physical sales is trying to kill it
You all re retarded.
It just easier for Nintendo to simply offer in SKU of blank Card, cheaper for bulk and probably makes security easier too.
The point isn't that 64GB isn't enough, it's that they aren't offering smaller, cheaper capacities.
It isn't going to matter in the long run.
That 64GB card probably costs at least $20 to make.
compressing audio
Shittier audio for full price
Wat.
Elaborate.
They're Japanese. Ironically one of the youngest and dumbest cultures Asia. Remember that they are literally Chinese diaspora.
they are an illuminati company doing their part in the great reset.
What you don't understand about the whole physical/digital debate is that it's more about your rights less so the idea of having a piece of media in your hands.
If it was possible to assure people that when you buy a digital game, there is NO WAY it can be denied to you from that point onwards then people would probably just go all-digital. The problem is the game industry keeps getting caught out by gotcha after gotcha when it comes to digital games and they do little to nothing to try to allay those concerns when they come up. So people turn to physical media as some semblance of retaining the ability to use software after the terms set by the industry no longer apply.
There's no love for discs themselves. The conveniences of all-digital gaming are inarguable. Everyone who's cozied up to emulation or ODEs already knows the upsides. Portable consoles being all-digital is a far better solution than carrying games with you. There's no functional advantage of physical games, they just solve a problem the game industry keeps refusing to deal with because it's not favorable for them to let people continually access software - even after they paid for it - after they want to sunset a platform/storefront.
Devs should just pay extra for storage they won't use
How are you so dense you aren't getting why they don't want to use this
Don't talk about things you don't know about. This isn't the 90's anymore where game console bitrates are insufficient for clear audio. This shit has been solved for two decades. Music isn't compressed because audio mastering is a skill and takes time and money to clean up recordings so they don't produce artifacts.
Ok. Still buying a Switch 2.
Nintendo is intentionally trying to kill off physical releases!!!
Every developer and console manufacturer is you absolute moron. And good on them. Physical releases are worthless tacky plastic junk for babies.
SAAAR BUY THE DIGITAL
Isn't that what cyberspunk is doing?
It's now confirmed that Nintendo is intentionally trying to kill off physical releases.
Sony and Microsoft have both released digital only consoles 5 years ago. But keep seething about Nintendo 24/7 OP. Never give up!
you WILL pay $80 for a digital-only game and suck Nintendo's cock for the privilege of doing so
so you're saying the steam deck is the best choice here tho?
I mean they bought cardboard for 75
It matters in that it's much more expensive than realizing on a bluray, so every simultaneous third party multiplat release will be on Game Key Cart. Physical is essentially dead outside of first party Nintendo games.
You don't get it, it's not about 64GB being enough, it's about the licensing costs to acquire that cartridge for mass production. Many devs wouldn't want to pay for a 64GB cartridge to dump their 8GB game in it without passing the cost to the costumer, so they will immediately jump to the Key Cards or just make the game a DL code.
If the ArcSys leak indeed is the truth about Nintendo only offering a single 64GB option for their cartridges that automatically explains all the third parties jumping only he Key Card wagon.
Not the same situation, the Vita cards were they weren't limited to single size to begin with.
The seething is only going to get worse
The schizos are spending their entire waking life trawling the internet for any snippet of Nintendo news they can shitpost about.
It's truly like 2017 all over again.
Name 1 game that is justified in being over 60gb.
Another dumbass that doesn't understand the issue.
The day Nintendo gives me back the ability to download the Pokemon Crystal edition I bought for the 3DS is the day I'll swap to digital. Literal money stolen bullshit to save $10/yearly to host a simple server, fuck corpos.
Retard
as MicroSD cards get cheaper and higher capacity
They're not getting much faster though. You're just asking for stuttering games if you're relying on them.
All more reasons to pirate.
Grab the launch consoles, they're guaranteed to be hacked. Not a single Nintendo console in the histoe
but why? does nintendo really need to cut corners EVERY time they can? are they really saving that much money?
Yes retard, this is capitalism. All corners will be cut. Enjoy, retard.
So they are offering physical carts as an option. What the fuck does this mean? Sounds like jew devs are the ones going with the retarded key card shit. No Switch game is even remotely close to 64GB so size isn't an issue.
Pokemon Crystal edition
muh game from quarter of a century ago!!
You'll live.
No Switch game is even remotely close to 64GB so size isn't an issue.
I didn't think Anon Babble was that inept about game publishing and its costs till these exact replies were made several times in this thread, and past threads.
Write down this post and set a reminder for 15 years from now when your entire digital Switch2 collection will be forever unavailable because you decided to die on the hill of sucking corporate cock.
The fact that there are no option but the 64GB cartridge is the issue, you retard.
No Switch game is even remotely close to 64GB so size isn't an issue.
Hey retard. Take an economics class
I hope your switch 2 gets bricked and everything bad happens to you in your lot in life.
Expected, Microsoft aready did it with their Xbox Series consoles. The Nintendo Switch 2 Lite, when it comes, will probably be digital-only and will only cost $300.
Write down this post and set a reminder for 15 years from now when your entire digital Switch2 collection will be forever unavailable
1) why would it be?
2) why would I care?
I'll be playing Nintendo HoloBoy by then not giving a fuck about 20 year old games.
I have 40 years worth of emulators. I spent more time setting up Retroarch than I have actually playing any of the fucking games I grew up with. Seethe harder you retarded faggot.
Tendies really are the most retarded people on the planet huh?
Least obvious falseflag
The price of a 64GB cartridge for publishers is apparently $16. The price of a Bluray disc is $2. Each platform holder takes a 30% cut on top of this. So minus distribution costs, for a $70 game it will cost companies $23 to release physically on Xbox or Playstation. It will cost them $37 to release physically on Switch 2. Nintendo pockets the majority of the publishers/devs profits in that scenario.
Hopefully this clears up why most devs are opting for the key carts instead, especially on multiplats where they potentially lose $14 for every Switch 2 physical copy sold if that consumer would have bought it in any other way. Also keep in mind that $16 becomes more impactful the cheaper a game is. A $30 game would mean that $25 of that sale goes directly to Nintendo.
@grok is this true?
emulators
We'll see about those emulators when the Nintendo HoloBoy is a cloud-only games-as-a-service subscription model where the only physical thing you'll own will be a controller, while the actual games run on the cloud on undisclosed, unemulable hardware and software :)
NOOOO DEVS MIGHT HAVE TO SPEND AN EXTRA 3 CENTS PER CART!
Shalom, Vile Shlomo. Jew devs gonna jew.
Considering how ovepriced the console is by the latest SoC leaks, it's obvious how much of a profit margin they probably have on that 64GB cartridge so even ther "partners" are unwilling to pay for them and the customers pay the price by getting that game key card shit only.
3 cents
A retard that insists on proving they are the stupidest in the room, quite the dedication.
Proprietary cartridges with reading and writing speeds above the market standard doesn't cost the same produce as a random DVD on the production line.
How are you going to play your 20 year switch cartridges?
How you play them without all the patches and bug fixes?
good on them
I refuse to believe that you’re an actual poster and not some corpo Jew that gets paid to post retarded takes like this one. Kys.
to save $10/yearly to host a simple server
Nintendo actually pays boatloads of money for their old Wii/WiiU/3DS era servers.
They're hosted by BroadOn, now owned by Acer. Basically during N64 development some of the devs designing the system spun off into their own company which handled the actual development of Nintendo hardware along with partner companies like IBM and ATI, as Nintendo themselves mostly does the software and controller designs.
Eventually Nintendo wanted to get involved with the internet and so this same company offered to host any online services Nintendo needed, including their own internal services including storing online literally everything Nintendo has ever made. This is where the gigaleaks came from.
When the Switch released they dropped BroadOn as a design partner for hardware in favor of working with Nvidia directly, and Nintendo online services were brought in-house as well. Nintendo has been trying to get rid off their remaining services at BroadOn ever since then as paying for what is essentially a private cloud company ain't cheap.
How is this not a shit situation?
3 CENTS
More like 20% more
I mean they should be either forced to ensure availability to the digital goods I purchased or at the very least forced to waive their rights to legally pursue the people from the community that step in to voluntarily perform those preservation tasks once the service is abandoned.
Good, now that they've fixed their situation I'm expecting them to resurrect those defunct services any day, especially since these servers cost virtually a rounding error with the low traffic they'd have.