This nigga sure is progressive for an outlaw in the 1900s

I found the wokeness in the game to be digestible compared to other crap. I dread the next game is going to be absurd with it wokness with all devs who left rockstar now.

erm yikes is that racism in my game where i brutally murder people and am a general piece of shit?

He doesn’t judge on superficial shit like race and sex not because he was morally superior to society at the time, but because he was never raised in a society with those beliefs. He was taken in by Dutch and Hosea at a young age and he lived with them on the fringes of society, surrounded by the downtrodden and people who were never given a chance.

The people Arthur spent his whole life with were the same people who would have been discriminated against during that time. He never developed the prejudices you would expect of the time because he never lived within the society that allowed those beliefs to flourish. Your worldview is shaped by the people around you.

gamers when the cowboy is a nice feller who helps damsels in distress and befriends a black man and an indian in 1899's America

Yeah, Morgan is the perfect example of how leftists see themselves, they are that deluded. He is a huge bitch, he acts like a bitch, and complains other people are doing bad things, besides him of course.

Killing an entire town GOOD

racism? BAD

Actually being a piece of shit isn't black and white. You can be a piece of shit to certain people and nice to others. It's called the human experience, you should try it. Micah was nice to Miss Shaw and Dutch.

nice feller

You mean the guy who works for the usurer and also robs and kills?

arthur I need you to kill my wife and children

"ooh I don't know if I can do that"

arthur here's 20 dollars if you do it

"ah alright then"

i reckon it's her turn

I'm sure the reasoning behind Arthur's inoffensive opinions is thanks to a carefully crafted, decade long narrative and not the result of countless focus groups meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Well, Dutch, you ever notice how white folks showed up on every continent like uninvited dinner guests? 'Scuse me, sir, is this your land? No, it ain't!' Next thing you know, there's flags, corpses and churches everywhere. I mean, ain't no reason for taking a boat just to rob and kill other fellers and then tell everyone you discovered that place, it ain't a discovery, it'sa damn break-in.

So that means he ain't nice? If you play the game you can witness it for yourself. He's super nice.

You literally massacre an all black gang in this game. That mission is actually pretty fun cause it’s in a small cabin so I go first person with a shotgun and blow all their heads off. Game had nice gore

implying conservacucks aren't also walking moral contradictions

also policing for moral purity in general is bad because people are inherently contradictory
of course criminals will believe themselves to be good but that goodness is cancelled out by their criminality to begin with, the game acknowledges the gang are bad people and doesn't pretend otherwise

theft and murder is fine but I draw the line at usury

???

Literally did that mission 5 minutes ago and the rason behind that was to save a black girl.

You get gold if you shoot them yourselves instead of letting miss shaw lol.

you keep misgenderin’ folk, Dutch…

if you kill Hitler are you good or bad?

NO! OUTLAWS WERE ACTUALLY REALLY HECKIN' WHOLESOME BECAUSE OF LIKE SYSTEMIC OPPRESSION OR SOMETHING!

Every fucking time.

We all had him John.

Micah was the most based character in the whole game, he was an actual outlaw and was unironically smart and he should've put Arthur in his place more and more.

I can believe outlaws looking past race temporarily to survive in the west. We're talking about shit stained opportunist criminals, not blue blooded former plantation owners.

How do you go hunting in this game without wasting hours searching for specific animals? I want to complete Pearson and the trapper stuff before that one bank job. Google is not the answer, want to do it without cheating.

Anybody have the vocaroo where Arthur, Dutch and Micah discuss trans fellers?

The game never makes an excuse for the gang and any positivity around their lawlessness comes from Dutch being a literal grifter.

Niggers tongue your anus Dutch, well what if I tongued a nigger's anus instead? I figure it's only fair. *COUGHCOUGHCOUGH*

that moment on a boat where Dutch becomes possessed by one of the writers and rants about how us evil white people need to pay for what we done oy vey

I SAW ONE O' DEM NIGGER FELLAS' GENITALS AND I THOUGHT "WELL GOSH DARNIT THAT LOOKS MIGHTY APPETIZIN' IF I DO SAY SO MYSELF"

I love how much centristfag seething Arthurposting always causes.

Dutch rants about how he cares about the plight of the Indians then uses the Indians later for his own gain

play the game next time

Dutch is a grifter. Dude was jealous of Bronte and Leviticus. He wanted to be the rich criminal with all the power and money.

The reason why Arthur (and to an extend John in the original game) are so progressive is because Dutch always used social outcasts to do his bidding therefore he teaches all his students that they should accept everyone as long as they're of use to Dutch. Both games are incredibly clear about how Dutch's whole philosophy is nothing but a front to get people who aren't accepted by society to make him money and you're fucking retarded if you see liberal propaganda in this. You could argue that Dutch is a mirror to all those human pieces of shit hiding behind a progressive agenda yet still being terrible people.

The game never does, but every thread like this sure does at one point or another.

That makes you the better femboy, John.

Him being racist would've went against Dutch's ideals but then again, they let Micah into their gang so idk

Anon, Dutch is a schizo

Because all people from a given place or time think exactly the same and have the exact same opinions.

Awww, but Duuuuutch, why do I have to sleep next to him… he’s a… darkie…

*audience gasps*

and that's wrong ?

Now that you guys are here, let’s ask the real questions. Why did Dutch shoot him

You do realize not everyone was racist redneck retards back then right? You do realize there were actual whites helping slaves and such right? True outlaws didn't give a fuck about whether you were white or black, they just hated the law you brain dead fuck.

you litcherally get to kill the gays in undertale so the game with trannies and faggots in it is actually NOT woke. check-fucking-mate, nazi

Love this argument. TheAlmightyLoli would be proud.

Dutch was a narcissist. He loved Micah because he saved Dutch once and would say whatever Dutch wanted to hear. He saw Arthur's constructive criticism as going against him.

Dog, he literally went to a feminist women's rights march. This isn't some "in-character" thing, the devs just wanted to push woke shit. Stop overthinking it.

blames Micah for the gang falling apart, came to get revenge

"Marriage? A sacred institution? Heh, it's anything but in my experience, brother, I can tell you that. If two fellers wanna tie the knot, who am I ta say no? If the Lord ain't judged our gang, I'd say he's been takin' some time off the job, yer probably safe. Heh heh. Have at it, I say."

"Abortion? Well, that's a rough one. Bit of a tough pill to swaller. At first, I didn't rightly take kindly to the idea of killin' babies, but Dutch gave me this ole thick science book and I pretty much surmised that well, that thing is about as human as Micah here, which is lackin' to say the least, heh. Hell, I'd say a gal has the right to choose."

"A gal? As president? Well, what I can tell ya is its been nothin' but fellers since this whole thing here started up and what have we got? A bunch of other dead fellers. What have we got ta lose? I reckon' tryin' a gal's touch wouldn't do anyone no harm. If weakness is a concern of yours, I promise you some of the ladies runnin' in my gang would probably make Old Hickory look like a nancy in comparison. Hell, I'd reckon its her turn."

"Lettin' a black feller do yer wife? Well, if the old lady's havin' fun, who am I to deny her that? I reckon that feller's got a bigger one than me anyway. Besides, we gotta pay some back for that whole slavery bid'ness we did to them. Dutch raised me and I ain't his real son, so I'll raise my wife's son, whether he's black or white."

"Cuttin off yer willie sure sound silly but I reckon a feller might as well chop it off he ain't goin use it. And i suppose a wig can't do harm neither, heck men use to wear em all the time back in oldin' days."

yeah, wait till you find out what was happening in europe during the time period

The only woke thing I remember was him talking to that one old dude on a side mission about slavery. During the women march thingn he literally didn't give a fuck and was only in on it when they offered him money. He said as much.

I didn't read any of this btw.

the right to vote is woke now

I don't think Dutch felt bad about Arthur dying. It was more about getting revenge on Micah for being a rat, causing his gang to collapse and how it hurt his ego.

based
coping

NOOOO, YOU CAN'T BE AN OUTLAW AND HAVE A BLACK FRIEND

YOU HAVE TO BE A RACIST PIECE OF SHIT

grow up

I think you can be antiracism on base level empathy principles. Idk how you'd think your way out of misoginy tho

I wouldn’t know, because I’m not retarded or gay enough to play that game.

Yeah but killing anyone in undertale is considered the ”bad path”. Not in RDR2 case. It’s mandatory and not a single person gives you shit for it even when given the choice to spare one of them

I believe that we need a One Man, One Vote system: I am the Man, and I get the Vote.

I fucking hate Nu writing so much to the core. It's got me so cautious about GTA 6s story because I just know these two protags are gonna be the same "Anti Hero" misnomer archetype that Nu writers simply do not understand.

Actual anti hero:

Tony Soprano

People who are fundamentally NOT GOOD. And I don't mean that their actions aren't good, I mean fundamentally they are bad people, their belief system is all sorts of fucked up.

Modern Writers Anti Hero:

Does bad things out of necessity

Heart of fucking gold

That's what is pissing me off. Why the fuck is my Outlaw in RDR2 escorting women in a feminist rally? Why is my Outlaw so fucking annoyed over the only ACTUAL outlaw on his squad (Micah)? Why does my OUTLAW get kissed by a literal french tranny (this is an actual mission btw) and doesn't break his jaw in nor give me the option to break his jaw in.

What is this fucking nigger shit writing in RDR2? Give me a fucking outlaw. John Marston was a shit person who gave a fuck about one thing, getting his family back. Everything else he did, he did it to get closer to that and didn't give a single fuck about any of the strangers he helped unless you moralfagged your John Marston to be that way.

Arthur? Well of course he's mad at a guy for legally owning slaves once. Well of course he thinks negroes are his brothers. Well of course he literally chimps out and goes hunting poachers for *checks Arthurs notebook* killing buffalos, something he does in the game too.

Where are the ACTUAL Anti Heroes nowadays. Every shitty movies, every shitty game has the same protagonist.

he's mysterious

scruffy voice

MIGHT be the bad guy!

jokes, turns out he voted Biden/Kamala in the 2020 election

Arthur Morgan makes liberals of TODAY look conservative.

And then you had that whole mission with the Nun

"i'm a bad man sista! *COOFS*, I helped feminists! AM AFRAID SISTAAA"

Fuck off. Arthurs only redemption is for saying men shouldn't beat up women in hogtieing competitions

make sure you dilate after you're done seething sweaty

Dead man deeper 2 isn't about gay or Trans people tho. Its mostly about cowboys being an outdated stereotype that was mostly exaggerated. Thats the thesis of the game.

erm ackshually YOURE the tranny for making fun of RDR2 so HAH

My guess is outlaws were of different beliefs. Jesse James was part of Confederate raider gang before he started his own gang so he probably hated blacks, but you also have Billy the Kid and he ran with Mexicans in his gang.

I'm somehow supposed to believe the man who murders and robs for a living somehow draws the line at le hecking racism and sexism

well prove it wrong then

running with mexicans = never ushering a single racial word to mexicans

Where the fuck did this change in society even happen? It can only be liberals that have never met an actual non university level negro or something.

In high school I had niggers, spics, chinks, whites and we all ripped on each others ethnicities then went home and logged on to play MW2 together where it resumed.

It was unironic banter for the longest time and still is among normies who aren't just hanging around at University bars. I remember when I went to Uni and just sensing how strange the vibe felt whenever somebody accidentally said something racist. Then I got a job, went out with colleagues and the shit talking racial banter started up again.

It's literally just a liberal uni thing.

It’s called RDR1

yeah just like now every single person is a liberal

racism and sexism are irrational
these characters are shown to be rational thinkers

Sure.

Explain to me why my Arthur installed a Nexus mod that allowed me to lasso hang people to a tree and my Arthur exclusively did this to black negroes.

My Arthur was a closeted racist. Only saving face in camp because Tilly looked like she gave intense footjobs.

Yeah? Criminals have always had morals and a code of honour. Just because you engage in one form of debauchery doesn't mean all bets are off and you're just a demon who loves being evil in anyway you can be.

Answer honestly.

Do you think a non racist outlaw of the time, still wouldn't use racial slurs.

Of course he does. Modern protagonists have to have the same beliefs as modern progressives. There can never be a protagonist who doesn't, because modern normies are rabid zealots who hate everything that doesn't perfectly align with & validate their retarded worldview. That's why even all of their anti-heroes are fucking pussies. They will eternally cope about how these characters shouldn't act appropriately to the time period for whatever reason, because they could never identify with a character that wasn't a corporate, HR approved sanitised mega-liberal.

Arthur: murders a dozen people every day

Dutch: murders 1 or 2 people

Arthur: yOu KeEp KiLlInG PeOPlE dUtCh

great writing

Maybe in a certain context but not as a genuine insult. But any argument around historical accuracy (especially when it comes to portraying racism) in this AAA video game designed to maximise sales is defunct to begin with.

Because he isn't, he's a 2020 West coast liberal speaking older English.

It's also the game where you're literally prevented from shooting Injuns, in an open-world game.

it's realistic

no it's not

well actually realism doesn't matter

every fucking time with you cowards

Bigger cultural impact than your favorite game. Cope

Regardless of all the whining about the game being too woke. I still think it is one of the greatest western genre games ever made.

OHHHHHHHHHHH LENNNNEH

Why wasn't a defunct idea when Tony Soprano was a shitty racist? Sopranos was and still is one of the biggest shows of all time.

What makes you think people would revolt against a game portraying a shitty person (outlaw) as a shitty person? I know developers thought it, developers thought we would revolt over females having big tits and made every female character in AAA games some flat bodied tranny, but that's quickly turned around clearly. GTA 6 is a good example of that, every other women i've seen in that had a fat ass, a slim waist and huge tits (besides Lucia sadly but her ass makes up for it)

my favorite games Skyrim.

It sold more and has more players on Steam despite being 5+ years older.

Outlaws generally were as such because they didn't fit the norms of society and turned to banditry.

Micah was nice to the woman he shot in the stomach

my favorite games Skyrim.

I'm just glad i got you to admit that. YIKES

The antihero trend began and ended with Tony Soprano. Everything has been downhill since. From a genuinely awful human being the audience is tricked into rooting for to protagonists with every socially acceptable opinion who just happen to kill people every now and then (only the bad ones though!)

I didn't play 2. 1 is cool.

John had a wife and was loyal, Arthur was probably closeted, probably why he's so open about a lot of controversial topics.

I didn't play 2.

Arthur was probably closeted

nice projection

what's wrong with that? It's loved everywhere. Even Anon Babble, has a thread every day that reaches 100+ posts, it's loved on Anon Babble (has an actual general unlike RDR2).

What's your favorite game?

Everyone has their standards and moments of being a hypocrite.

he was, he canonically gets raped by a man and kisses a french tranny
His "projection" was 100% spot on based on the games content.

Gothic 2 Night of the Raven

Skyrim has general because it modder friendly game for coomers. Skyrim is the fast food of gaming. I don't hate Skyrim, I just don't see it as a quality game.

Show a screenshot of your save files folder with the dates visible and this thread in the background.

You won't.

Outlaws generally were, they didn't have the option of company to keep, so they accepted who they could. Same went with pirates.

That's cool. But as said.

bigger cultural impact than your favorite single player game

all the posts defending the blatant pandering

I refuse to believe these are genuine opinions. Are the GTAVI shills working overtime on all R* properties?

literal kike history revisionism.

Genuine retard

arthur is a liberal mouthpiece, not an outlaw. in a game where you can get rich quick via robbing and stuff, no one would have followed dutch after his 5th 'this is the last job' speech.

I love these kek

Outlaws generally were

Prove that sentiment

didn't have the option of company to keep

Where the fuck did you even hear this.

You think they were in hard war times or something an needed an active duty servicemen at the ready of all times? The fuck do you mean they didn't have an option of company to keep.

Criminals who liked robbing people for a quick buck were plentiful at the time and like minded individuals would simply band together, it was that easy and in a time where niggers were slaves/viewed as non humans and Mexicans were systematically brutalized, they sure as shit weren't quick to take them on especially when outlaws would likely view them as easy targets because who the fuck is gonna care if someone kills a negro in a robbery gone wrong?

Just think of it logically. Outlaws want to keep a low profile, especially ones with bounties right? Why the FUCK would they have negros and spics in their posse as they walk into a saloon.

LMAO, absolute state of reddit tourists

Like what type of kike vox documentary did you watch to believe that shit?

still waiting buddy.

Surely you're not another larping zoomer who pretends to like shitty old CRPGs because they saw it mentioned in a lot of the 3x3 threads, right?

Arthur hates all people all equally

Noooow Dutch, I may be willin' to burn, steal, and even kill for this here gang of ours, but I ain't about to get in the way of the fairer sex's right to vote. Way I figure it, these brave women here gonna really change things.
Fact after I got done killin' some of those racist pillow head fellers burnin' a cross, I realized if I ever had a wife it'd be her decision to lay with a black feller. I ain't gonna be part of the problem no more, Dutch.
Ya ever seen the stuff those Jewish fellers been through? Notice how they're always bankers? Lenny told me they got stuck doin' that because of what folk who look like us did to them. I reckon we should rectify that. Maybe pass some laws that prevent mean-spirited folks from saying hurtful things about 'em.

Give it to me straight: Is RDR2 worth playing if I don't care at all about the series?

You do realize there were actual whites helping slaves and such right?

Yeah just like there are Whites now who push mentally-ill shit like trans stuff, actively hate their own race, and have no problem with being replaced. Those White people are severely defective in every which way. They are all mentally-ill, unlike every other race who cares about their bloodline and culture like normal, and are basically inhuman entities.

They are all mentally-ill

Right, like you're a paragon of sanity.

It's the best cowboy simulator there is, and the stuff you can do is unparalleled. However the characters are painfully modern at times and the main mission structure can get VERY repetitive

sounds good, can i be the lobbyist?

The story and characters are the biggest woke slop of the ps4 generation along with maybe The last of us part 2 and Detroit Become human, but at least it has a great open world

Couldn't stand it. Every mission is the same thing, you start at your camp, you and 1-2 characters from the multiracial woke DEI gang Hold X to run your horse along the road for 3 minutes while expository dialogue is read at you, then you get in a MASSIVE shootout where you kill dozens of men. Then the mission ends or you ride your horse back to the camp.

All the memes about the characters having modern values and being liberals are true, it's grating if that sort of thing bothers you. I made it to like chapter 4, out of however many I don't know.

they also don't know anything about 1899 america. If you watch one Jon Levi or similar video on YouTube you will find out that our history is a lot more advanced than a small wooden shanty town we see on TV

LMAO

All the memes about the characters having modern values and being liberals are true

LMAO, did they really go this route? i remember RDR1 being clear about how much of a piece of shit John is.

I found it really weird how hard they tried to shy away from racial stuff in this game like I'm pretty sure only one character says nigger and it's the black dude in the gang

literally EVERYONE was racist before the 20th century

nobody has EVER been accepting of other peoples

Okay.

The Pinkerton guy was honestly

dutch van der linde is a psycho

because of him hundreds are dead

just leave, we only want him

we'll give you a week head start

And rockstar of david still made him seem like a bad guy

Yeah he shot Hosea in the back but at that point the van der linde psychos shot yet another couple hundred policemen who where just doing their job

Now that AI is a thing, are there full revamp mods to make the game based and still keep the original VAs. I'd like to hear him comment about how nogs and redskins are subhuman and women belong in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant.

Literally the entire point of his character is that he's actually really nice and wants to be nice and doesn't see the point in conflict but was raised to believe that violence and conflict are just a fact of life and when he realises they don't need to be and he's faced with his own mortality he has to decide whether he sticks to what he was taught or what he believes in.

Him being progressive and non-judgmental is completely in character for him. Give me a single logical reason, considering the kind of person he is, that Arthur would be racist or against womens rights.

Arthur Morgan would kill a man for looking at him wrong but he would never ever say nigger

Who looks the best shaved ?

is there a mod to dewokeify rdr2

Dutch looks better without the retarded soul patch, but I think Swanson looks the best of the bunch.

You mean the mission where he is trying to gain the trust of the Braithwaite/other guy so he can find out where the family treasure is? The mission where he says voting as a whole is stupid? That mission?

I read all of these and kekked hard btw

shaved Micah with short hair is quite a good looking guy, dude looks like trash on purpose

Can you explain how those two things are supposed to feed into each other? Why would he be racist? Just because it’s the late 1800s? Do you think everyone was just screaming racial slurs back then? Do you think someone that lived outside of society in a gang of retarded pseudo anarchists would care about that?

Kind of looks like the actor who played Rorschach in Snyder’s Watchmen.

he does a little, though the actor somehow looks more fucked up

They got a sign on him.

Am I supposed to believe murder and the lasting impact it will have on the victim's friends and family is somehow an offense of a lesser magnitude than casual racism?

I mean he hates everyone involved for whatever the reason

Damn, Arthur looks like a leading man compared to most of them

Micah was nice to Miss Shaw

Even before he killed her he was a creepy, pervy asshole to her, like with pretty much every woman in camp really.
Micah wasn't really "nice" to Dutch either, obsequious and servile maybe but Micah wasn't actually genuinely nice to anybody.

Not all outlaws were monsters like villains from Eastwood movies.
Of course sometimes, their morals could be hypocritical too, but all people have their own morals, no matter what they do in life
Even Dutch gang has plenty of people with different morals and opinions

Outlaws and criminals are stupid, poor, and impulsive people. They would've lived their entire lives around other poor, stupid people, including nonwhites. They would've spent their entire lives around Detroit tier niggatry. The idea that these retards wouldn't have the proper mentality to live a decent life and not murder people for pocket change but would also be open minded and tolerant about different people is absurd. Tolerance is a luxury of the rich

Micah asking out Mary Beth is pretty funny youtube.com/watch?v=ReXikjRX2FM

Micah is literally me...

The illiterate be like: "If i heckin shoot man, why cant be racist or sexist??" these are baby thoughts, the indignation of 2 year olds discovering that there is a human being in the mascot suit. Human beings are the core of everything in media along with the ideas of human beings.

From what I recall her interaction with Ms Grimshaw is basically OH MOMMY HUBBA HUBBA AWOOOOGA tier kek

1900's

yea he's a bit lefty for someone from 1999

her

*his, meaning Micah's ofc

Heh, I thought the same thing during his interactions with that loan shark.

Why is Anon Babble so obsessed with keeping blacks and women oppressed?

I'm pretty sure Micah was not planning to betray the gang at first, in fact even if he shit talk him he somewhat respect Arthur a little (even in bad karma, he somewhat struggle to push the trigger on Arthur, and when he stabs him he's really surprised), he started his betrayal plan when he saw that Dutch clearly was losing it
Doesn't change the fact he's a bastard traitor though

I'm pretty sure Arthur looking hypocritical is done on purpose, Arthur clearly has doubts about himself, especially if you read his journal. (in high honor he doesn't feel like he's deserving good things, in low honor he's downright suicidal, in both honor he's disappointed on the man he ended up becoming)

Raised by an Anarchist BPD.

Saying all cowboys were completely evil killers,rapists and racists is like saying all European knights were chivalrous servants to the people that only fought foreign invaders and totally never burned down villages, pillaged and raped their own people

Its the only way they can justify their own frailty and weakness by denying the humanity of others rather than becoming a better person thats likable and takes a shower and wipes their ass after shitting

I figure the intention is that he feels so bad about it because unlike robbing banks and rich folks, Strauss' predatory lending targets regular, poor people, preying on their desperation and leaving them with nothing. Seeing first-hand how it affects the Dawes family plays hell with his conscience, and obviously it's also kind of the original sin that ends up killing him with tuberculosis, so he relates that moral dilemma directly to its consequence on his own life.
Of course this is undercut somewhat by the fact that you probably still go through the game robbing all kinds of random homesteaders and other normal people in between all the big ticket heists and plot points.

Real men aren't racist or resentful towards women

What did he say? Any actual quotes?

Excuse me, but I shower, wipe regularly, have friends (including a girlfriend and side chick), and I still hate negroids and call my gfs misogynist slurs regularly. Cope!

I think it really pisses Arthur off because with all his other "activities", he can pretends that it's the government that is paying (even if it's often far from the truth), here he has to face the truth about the impact of his actions first-hand.

But he is acting that why and it’s how he makes his living/all he’s ever really known why would he see anything wrong with the behavior? He’s basically a wigger.

Dutch was using them, you fucktard. He never gave a shit about the injuns. He was telling them what they wanted to hear so he could essentially sacrifice them to distract the army/local authorities.
Dutch's entire character is just him trying to prolong the "outlaw life" for as long as he can. It's why "one more job" is never one more job. They could have easily packed up and moved somewhere else but they never did because Dutch can't live a normal life.

Why is it that you can’t address the argument I presented, I asked how does being a murderer feed into being racist? If anything it makes racists look better given they’re the ones actually making a living and not slaughtering people over words.

the 1900s were the peak of pseuds though

You married a whore. That makes you a better man than us.

Marston was the better outlaw. Thanks to the anon who posted the link for RDR in another thread btw, playing it in 2025 but with max settings and 180fps is a very pleasant experience.

"Western" in general is a Hollywood fabrication. Of course real life wasn't like that.

This but unironically. Taking responsibility for sleeping with a whore by marrying her and committing to her for the rest of his life makes John a better man than the majority of Dutch's crew just using her for her body.

Why

They

It's time to go back.

Yes. People are more outraged over Shiloh saying the naughty nigger word than Karmelo murdering his classmate. Racism is the ultimate sin in dystopian clown world & that is reflected in fictional media, even if it's a period piece.

He's a criminal.

Spoken like a sheltered faggot who lives in a gated community. Literally EVERY country under nigger control has descended into executions in the streets, cannibalism, rape & open sewers.

Retards act like there wouldn’t be people who think like Arthur

Post fucking Civil War

When he was raised and indoctrinated by a commie.

Can’t fix stupid.

He had real life experiences which molded him as a human being unlike chuds who live in their mothers basement.

been by

ESL cringe

libtards

Rockstar's writing team has been heavily libtard since their very first game. What made the others work while this one didn't?

Excuse me

you aren’t allowed to make typos when forming a thought

I even fixed it for you, faggot.

learn 2 write stupid

implying im gona read any of the crappage uire gona post bcos u cant tyype

LMAOING @ U IRL rn lol

Is that what he actually looks like? Damn

Kek, asshole.

Racism is morally correct and thieving and burglary is not.

Race and sex have profound effects on every aspect of who you are; it's not superficial. Egalitarianism is a luxury of those raised in gated monocultures with no exposure to the subhumans they foolishly believe to be equal in nature.

He is, but not outside the realm of believability
You guys never heard of John Brown? Makes Arthur look like a centrist in comparison.

Protip, retard, robbing banks and trains just results in those companies extracting the value of the plunder from their customers in the form of higher prices.

The difference is, Arthur kills people for money.
That's what you do all game in story quests, try to take money from people, and shoot them when it goes wrong.

So it's quite baffling when he takes a moralizing stance.
He killed many more innocents than that slave hunter he got so angry about caught.

He's basically a wannabe revolutionary, a communist of his day.

I just find the dissonance between gameplay and story to be incredibly jarring.
The gameplay is you genociding entire cities, eliminating whole gangs and tribes often for the sake of one criminal asshole that fucked up and got caught, but at the same time the story itself treats murder as this unthinkable crime. I hate it when devs are this incompetent.

Yeah and apparently Arthur's WORST crime is beating up one guy who *actually* owed the gang money.

Arthur’s worst crime is not blowing Micah’s snake brains out the first moment that he could.

Why would an outlaw be conservative?

historically criminal gangs are all white with tradcath values

What is your agenda exactly?

dude, just take a look at the president

The hope of everyone in the gang

the one person they wanted protected from this kind of life

Ends up a depressed outlaw with a fucked up worldview, who don't even have a gang, in a world already dead for outlaws

Some of his voice lines are pure depression fuel

Go ahead! I got nothin' to live for, anyway

I guess I am my father's son

I wasn't always like this, miss

What have I become

There goes the last of my innocence

No wonder I'm alone

And I was gonna be a writer

It's no wonder I've got problems

You're doin' terrible things to my hormones, miss!

Strauss did nothing wrong.

Ah yes, all those liberal minded gang bangers thinking about womens rights as they rape a girl. Very progressive.

Kek.

Why would a group of uneducated men living in the woods with a handful of women embrace radical progressive politics that were contentious even to those living in New York City?

why would people living outside society have views that are questionable to those within society

Im not gonna watch your shit. I am america.

Ok, I am curious. Maybe I am making a mistake engaging a leftist in good faith, but do you truly, candidly, and frankly believe that a gang of outlaws at that time would have subscribed to progressive politics?

listen 'ere mister, i may kill innocent people, rob places of business and shoot animals for fun but i would NEVER disrespect a woman or dark feller

Based America.

so it makes sense he wasn't racist as he had a poor moral compass?

So it's morally right for me to be racist to you then?

Brainwashed zoomers are too dumb to think there could be something more evil than CurrentYear social taboos.

the most racist person I know would kill you for being mean to his black friends. the mind of a racist is a complex thing

Liberals have gotten more fanatical as time has gone on. You'll notice now that any time a liberal talks about voting, they always mention that "somthing is on the line". It's not about difference of opinion anymore like it used to be.

Oof, got him in the ropes with that

That's the thing that got me in rdr2, not arthur dying. It was seeing how close they got to giving Jack a normal life.
but you can't stop what's comin.

doesn't mean he's a piece of shit

The whole game is about how he's a piece of shit.