Metroid Prime 4 doesn't look good

Metroid Prime 4 doesn't look good.

it looks fine, and the joycon mouse+joystick combo thing means it's gonna be the best one

Metroid used to be niche

Nobody cares. Imma buy it.

I think it looks great. What don't you like about it?

I know

At least its NOT exclusive to Switch 2, because honestly the more I hear about the Switch 2 the less excited I get for it. The news can either be negative or anti hype.

nobody care. Imma buy it

Nothing mainstream ever stays good.

Metroid Prime 4 looks good.

Seems pretty niche based on sales. The best selling Metroid is Dread with 3m. Kirby has 7.52m with Kirby and the Forgotten Land.

Prime is always the inferior sub series just play Super and Dread randos like cultured gentleman

Metroid prime 4 will be mainstream and the series will go "advertiser friendly"

Dread was already advertiser friendly.

An edgy title like Dread is not advertiser friendly

This

Nothing nintendo shits out these days looks good.

How does it manage to look worse than the Prime remake?

Wrong, end of thread.

The 2D games have been outclassed a long time ago and will be outclassed again, who cares about them

Kill yourself hollowfag your kind is not welcome here.

I don't entirely agree, but I wish SOMEONE would try their hand at a 3d metroid-like

Your game is never coming out, Hollowloser.

Hollow Knight is Castlevania with Dark Souls elements. Nothing to do with Metroid at all.

Prordered switch 2

will jailbreak once vulnerabilities are discovered

will pirate Metroid Prime 4

Will Pirate cunny Kong Joe Rogan edition

b...BUT NINTENDO WILL BRICK YOUR CONSOLE!
I will never connect it to any network, what now?

>will jailbreak once vulnerabilities are discovered

Not happening chud. They are wise to your illegal tricks

It will still be very niche, no one cares about this slop and it looks more generic and less likely to sell than ever

It looks about as good as the original Metroid Prime. Which in its own way makes this look disappointing and uninspired I suppose. I'm sure it will be fine, but not special or particularly memorable.

This and it has to sell more than Dread because Retro wasted too much of Nintendo's money for it. Prime 4 is doomed and the Prime series may get vaulted after this while Retro gets laid off and possibly shutdown if Nintendo doesn't relegate them to smaller projects. 2D Metroid will become the head honcho of the Metroid series from then on.

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Samus is already dead.

I will say Prime Remastered sold really well.

i was going to buy switch 2 for prime 4 in 4k, and xenoblade series in 4k.
prime 4 isn't in 4k on switch 2.
the xenoblade games aren't in 4k, and you have to pay per game to upgrade anyways.
they really fucked up releasing prime 4 on switch 1, i have no reason to fucking upgrade.

Not as well as the original Prime nor did it come close to Dread, it sold as much as any Prime game, really.

prime 4 isn't in 4k on switch 2.

It is, though. Why lie? In docked mode you can choose between 4K60 and FHD120.

joycon mouse+joystick combo thing

You mean my PS3 controller and switch emulator?

How is Dread edgy?

I'm legitimately curious to see how they end up disappointing me. All I expect is a piss easy metroid-flavored Halo clone. If it gives me two good songs on par with torvus bog or tallon overworld that would be a win.

Samus with force powers sounds cool to me, but I really hope they are used for more than just opening doors/pulling things down.

everything about it looks great except the prime 3-like opening which is thankfully over quick this time

dread

worse then even prime 3. Super is the only 2D metroid that's close to prime 1 and 2. 2D metroid games have been a joke ever since they moved away from super with fusion

you know what the metroid series needs? Extreme linearity and stealth mechanics

gee thanks sakamoto just what I wanted!

dread barely sold more than prime despite being a switch game co-marketed with a new model, prime 4 will sell more even if its shit given its crossgen nature

It sold well over Prime, well over 3 million, Prime 1 isn't even close so it wasn't barely. Prime was never that big given that the Prime series never saw that level of success again.

I'm expecting some kind of brainjacking/remote piloting in this game

Sounds pretty good though
youtube.com/watch?v=9NBq-6gRJgw

When has Metroid ever looked good?

It's refreshing seeing Anon Babble take every single game coming out on the Switch 2 and utterly tearing them apart and rejecting the devil that is Nintendo. Fight the good fight, my brothers and sisters, we will win this war.

I don't think 4k for Xenoblade is even possible, the hardware in real terms is only about 5x as powerful but you'd need 16x the power to render Xenoblade in 4k on Switch 2.

vocal minority, the state of pre orders shows that Switch 2 is set to be a major success.

I simply just don't care about Prime 4, it was overhyped. Other than that, I'm excited about the Switch 2, the games coming to it, and the future of the Switch 2.

Prime sold 2.86 million on GC, dread sold 3.05 on switch (released alongside the oled model). Prime 4 will almost certainly destroy dread's sales just because it's crossgen

I can't wait to cast mapsiodyne with Samus Anus

2d metroid never saw the level of the original's success either until dread.

Looks pretty great to me and I can't wait to play

as opposed to how shit the first three look?

Don't care, still buying it. Stay mad. Keep hating. I buy iPhone and Mac and Nintendo because I like it. I don't care if something is unknown because I'm not a contranarian retard with a complex against enjoying a thing because it's suddenly popular. I am a fan of things because I'm a fan of things. You do you though.

this is literally the only nintendo game that's looked good in the last half decade or so, and I'm not just talking visually

Nothing looks good nowadays.

Dd you know that the very well-received Super Metroid hack called Hyper Metroid recently received a redesign called Hyper Metroid SUPER? I hope to try it soon.

Yeah.
It looks fucking amazing. Day 1 pirating it.

it will [fanfic]

Just like wojaks and Anon Babble, hypocrite piece of shit.

This entry in this series that regularly suffers dry spells and doesn't sell as well as it deserves looks so fucking good.

So good, in fact, that I'm going to not support the series.

Every Prime game after Prime 1 has never reached those sales again including rereleases of the original Prime whether it's with Wii controls or remastered, it's never come even that close to those Prime 1 sales propped up by it being the first 3D Metroid game and a tech demo that showed off the power of the Nintendo Gamecube. Prime 4's hype was derailed after the first gameplay trailer and if that wasn't bad enough, the second one about Samus opening doors with her mind completely killed the hype. Prime 4 won't come close Prime 1's sales and it'll be lucky enough to beat Prime 3 in sales. It also has to deal with the Switch 2 hype, Mario Kart World, DK Bonanza, and the latest Pokemon game, Prime 4 is screwed and Nintendo clearly had more faith in Dread given how they marketed that more on its release year.

But they never dropped off as hard as the Prime series. People weren't fans of Prime and a million dropped off after the first game, Prime 2 and Hunters barely broke a million in sales.

What I want to know is whether they learned anything from Prime 3. If we end up with a bunch of gimmicky powerups that never get used outside of extremely situational moments, it's gonna drag the game down. And heaven help us all if we have to deal with garbage like Skytown again.

just ride on these boring rails for half the game tee hee

Yup, I'm already seeing it, even the mouse controls are as gimmicky as the motion controls of yesteryear.

we love skytown on this board

Sanctuary Fortress was 100 times better.

Yes it does.

I'll never understand your kind and the desperate need to hate everything and want everything to fail.

I always get lost after getting the powerbomb

I don't but I can see it, Nintendo didn't spend as much money on 2D Metroid, Dread could have sold a million or less and would have broke even. Retro hired like crazy and went for a lot of stuff found in AAA games for Prime 4. Prime 4 may have to sell over 4 to 5 million copies, I hope I'm wrong about that, I really do but I feel that this could be a Project Hammer situation coming if this doesn't put Metroid on the map. They really should have done something different over giving us a game that would have been better to release in 2010.

Prime 2 and Hunters barely broke a million in sales.

at the same time ZM failed to. Prime 2 selling over a million in 2004 on the GC is honestly impressive given how irrelevant the system was

ok? 2D metroid was in the same camp failing to hit the original's sales until the switch with dread. Being an early console game is a boost for sales regardless of competition, just look at games like Arms and xenoblade 2 dealing with the releases of mario odyssey, botw, splatoon 2

Prime 4 is screwed and Nintendo clearly had more faith in Dread given how they marketed that more on its release year.

yeah they had so much faith in dread they let a third party develop it while bringing prime 4 inhouse

Based. People act like enjoying popular or well-polished stuff is some sin now. Not everything needs to be a niche indie pixel game or a contrarian pick to be valid. If Prime 4 looks fun, plays well, and carries the Metroid torch, I'm in too.

After playing Sanctuary Fortress I realized that nintendo was and still is leauges beyond everyone in terms of game design. Honestly it was mindblowing

make first trip to the fortress

pretty cool seeing everything high up

find the spider ball

come back to the bridge

Dark Samus destroys the whole bridge

:O

Nintendo clearly had more faith in Dread given how they marketed that more on its release year.

opposite really, dread had a marketing cycle of 3 months while nintendo is hyping up prime 4 for over a year (ignoring the original 2017 teaser). It was also given the switch 2 enhancement treatment alongside games like zelda and pokemon

Sex with balls

2D metroid sold worse than prime during prime's era buddy, same thing will happen with prime 4 and dread/metroid 6

I like 2D Metroid and Prime

ZM was a remake with significantly less budget, game made its money back.

2D metroid was in the same camp failing to hit the original's sales until the switch with dread

And Metroid II, Super, and Fusion still sold more than Prime 2, Hunters, 3, and Remastered with less budget, SR was also like ZM and made its money back.

They didn't let a third party make it, they fully collaborated with them. Nintendo EPD7 develops 2D Metroid games but their team isn't big enough to do it alone, yet. So, they have to collaborate with outside devs to get games done. They did this with the first three games and it was with Intelligent Systems. Meanwhile Prime series is done in collaboration between Nintendo EPD6 and Retro Studios, Retro isn't the main one that does everything, Nintendo Japan gets involved as well despite it all being in-house.

Yet those games are talked about more.

Yet Prime 2, 3, Hunters, Trilogy, and Remastered all sold worse than Metroid, Metroid II, Super, Fusion, and Dread individually. Why hasn't Prime sold near 3 million copies since, there were less release gaps until Remastered of course?

*than the 2D games

still had my vintage SNES copy of Super Metroid

had it since 1998 (bought the game a little later than others)

lend it to my nephew since he claimed to be into retro collecting it

lost it a month later

I want to hate him for it, but I know it's my fault for being a retard.

it's pretty directly based on aliens still and metroid doesn't pull punches about showing things dying or referring to them as dead, compared to most nintendo series

ZM may as well be a new game with how different it is

2D metroid has lower budget than prime

shocking, I could never tell by looking at them

metroid 2 and super

different times

fusion

sold by being co-marketed with prime on the same day of release

the development of SR/Dread are almost entirely third party (mercury steam). There are like less than 10 people from nintendo who worked on those games and most of that is on art/music rather than gameplay

Retro isn't the main one that does everything

yes they are and retro is first party anyway

Nintendo Japan gets involved

outside of tanabe, they are there to maintain brand integrity or in the case of prime 1 miyamoto popping in and giving suggestions every now and again. I can agree than the "lead" of prime and 2D metroid are EPD staffers but the heavy lifting/development is done by retro/mercurysteam respectively

same reason 2D metroid didn't sell near 3 million until switch, issues with the base platform or release. Not the case with prime 4 with it being a switch/switch 2 corss gen game releasing near launch

I imagine Nintendo EPD did more than you're letting on for SR and Dread (Dread especially), MercurySteam's track record before Dread is crap.

I love how Anon Babbleirgins are screaming that unless a franchise doesn't sell like Mario or Pokemon it's a shit dead horrible franchise.

Anon Babble can only think in terms of blockbuster AAA, it's so fucking weird

trilogy was made in extremely limited numbers on purpose by nintendo, I'm fairly certain remastered sold more than super and is approaching if not surpassed fusion (we don't have exact numbers post launch but the total switch metroid series sales vs dread's known sales put it around 1.7 million [more than super] by september 2024). Metroid 1 and 2 were released in an entirely different landscape (as was dread). Fusion sold worse than prime which was the most immediate comparison for obvious reasons and ZM/SR, while remakes, may as well be new games that sold less as well.

You don't have to take my word for it, you can look up SR/Dread's credits. It's almost entirely MS doing the active development

I love how Anon Babbleirgins are screaming that unless a franchise doesn't sell like Mario or Pokemon it's a shit dead horrible franchise.

Even when game like TotK sells over 20 million they still try and pretend it's "bad because too many people liked it"

All you need to know is that schizos here will always shit blood when it's a Nintendo exclusive, no matter what.

Why hasn't Prime sold near 3 million copies since, there were less release gaps until Remastered of course?

this is a silly claim to make while you're sucking 2D's dick at the same time, 2D metroid sold like shit until dread too with the switch and honestly dread selling 3 million on switch is way less impressive than prime on the GC

It's more so that people don't want to hear idiots jerking off sales and metacritic scores every 5 seconds.

hey, I wasn't a fan of TOTK's approach to world design or dungeons

"HAHA 96 U MAD 20 MILLION SALES UMAD SNOY YEEEEE U MAD"

As long as you take that trash and leave it in the famitsu threads, we can have a nice metroid thread in peace.

They shit blood when it's Nintendo, period. For whatever reason the company sends so many Anon Babbleirgins into nonstop conniption fits.

Most of Anon Babble's console war behavior of the past ten years makes crystal clear sense knowing that it isn't any allegiance to any specific console, it's just hatred of Nintendo. The company that makes every other manufacturer shit themselves in fear, and who Microsoft and Sony (wearing the FTC's skin) both tried to say "doesn't count" in actual court.

why does the game look bad? it's the best looking switch game alongside luigi's mansion 3 and the switch 2 version looks very clean AND runs at 120fps

we've basically seen like the first 20 minutes of the game and there's obviously a ton of stuff we don't know about like all the different biomes, the new abilities, maybe some returning ones like speedbooster etc, I'm sure the game will be great

metroid "fans" who grew up with fusion have a very twisted idea of what makes a good metroid game. They don't care about good exploration or cool new worlds/upgrades to experience

ZM may as well be a new game with how different it is

Still a remake and still didn't need to sell a million copies.

different times

That's an excuse

sold by being co-marketed with prime on the same day of release

Dread got marketed by itself and sold the most in the entire series alone.

the development of SR/Dread are almost entirely third party (mercury steam). There are like less than 10 people from nintendo who worked on those games and most of that is on art/music rather than gameplay

It was in collaboration with Nintendo EPD7, they led the project and the project is theirs and on their portfolio, the game is the way it is because they wanted it that way and said no to things they didn't want and worked and added to both SR and Dread.

yes they are and retro is first party anyway

And still Nintendo EPD6 works on them with them, guess who was responsible for the boss fights of Prime 2, it wasn't Retro, it was Nintendo Japan. Retro wanted to make it more like Halo and Nintendo stepped in and said no and programmed the boss fights.

outside of tanabe, they are there to maintain brand integrity or in the case of prime 1 miyamoto popping in and giving suggestions every now and again. I can agree than the "lead" of prime and 2D metroid are EPD staffers but the heavy lifting/development is done by retro/mercurysteam respectively

They are there to work on the game as well along with write the story.

same reason 2D metroid didn't sell near 3 million until switch, issues with the base platform or release. Not the case with prime 4 with it being a switch/switch 2 corss gen game releasing near launch

Dread sold well based on hype, it hit all the marks that led to its massive success from

being the long awaited Metroid 5

being the illusive Metroid Dread

being the first HD Metroid game

being the first home console 2D Metroid since Super Metroid

being the first Metroid game with living Chozo in the current timeline

Dread really had so much going for it.

Exactly, even Retro had to be tard wrangled going by ex-employees. That guy should give more credit to Nintendo on how they handle their IPs.

Eh, I haven't seen anything interesting yet. Let's see if the other biomes look better.

I'm not comparing Prime 1 vs Fusion or Prime 2 vs ZM, I'm comparing Metroid II vs Prime 2, Super vs Prime 3, hell, Fusion vs Remastered. Prime 1 to Prime 2 drop off was greater than Metroid 1 to Metroid 2 drop off. I would agree with you if Dread didn't sell as well as it did. I used Dread as a test to see if a new 2D Metroid could break the million mark again due to ZM and SR not breaking a million and I was proven right. I even predicted that Dread was going to be the highest selling Metroid game even before it released

Dread was co-marketed/released with the oled actually and we've established nintendo games sell more on switch. In fact, dread underperformed if you compare it to the gain other nintendo first parties got on the Switch, even niche franchises like metroid (fire emblem, xenoblade, pikmin) had larger increases.

As for your point on who developed what, you're mistaken. Just look at the credits for both games. Claiming NoJ programmed the bosses for prime 2 is absurd.

Bullshit, 2D Metroid continued to sell well after the first and while ZM and SR didn't break a million they still made their money back so they were a success and Nintendo stated as much multiple times in 2004 and 2017 for both. Also, I don't really see how Prime 1's sales were impressive for GC, it was the first 3D Metroid game, that was hype alone, people were waiting for that after Mario and Zelda got the 3D treatment along with DK, F-Zero, and Star Fox while Metroid skipped the whole N64. In truth, Prime 1's hype is similar to that of Dread's because it was what everyone wanted at the time.

Your comparison is dumb because it's comparing games released decades apart (super sold the same as prime 3 by the way and prime R may be at or above fusion by now) while my comparisons were timely. Prime 2's drop off was large because the gamecube's was. Most of the metroid games track with their system except the wii where Prime 3 is a documented marketing failure on nintendo's part and other M bombed for obvious reasons. But it's really no use arguing here since prime 4 is releasing soon, I'm expecting a wind waker --> twilight princess level jump from dread to prime 4 especially given the crossgen nature

I guess I can say Prime 1 only sold near 3 million copies not because it was the first 3D Metroid but because it was bundled with the Gamecube latter, right? You're taking away from why Dread really sold well just like my above statement takes away from why Prime 1 really sold well. Being the best selling game in the entire series over 2D and Prime isn't underperforming, it's overperforming for the Metroid series, in general.

In truth, Prime 1's hype is similar to that of Dread's because it was what everyone wanted at the time.

If this were true dread would have sold proportionally closer to botw/mario odyssey like how prime was closer to WW/sunshine, instead it didn't even get close. Prime 2 and 3 are successful too so I'm not sure what you're trying to imply, I never said the 2d games after super weren't successful just that they sold less than their prime counterparts.

Also, I don't really see how Prime 1's sales were impressive for GC

It's far more impressive than dread which you claim has the same level of hype despite having almost the same number of sales on a system that sold 5 times the amount of the GC

we literally haven't seen anything of the jungle either except like the first two rooms and the big bridge

if there's one thing retro are good at it's level design I have zero doubts it'll be great

It's not, it shows which series is the actual bigger series, you should stop trying to act as if Prime 4 isn't in trouble. A video game's job is to make something both fans will like and a new audience would like. If the new audience are not into it, then the fans who will always get it can't get it to sell to new heights. Also, putting more money into a project is a bad idea because it means it has to sell more which means it needs to really get people interested. Prime 4 only made Prime fans interested, nobody else with how much Retro spent on making it.

2D Metroid peaked with Fusion
3D Metroid peaked with Prime 2
There hasn't been a good Metroid game in close to 20 years.
But I still buy them all hoping they'll finally climb up again instead of down.

There were roughly 15-20k bundles of prime + GC produced, hardly anything from its total sales

It's not overperforming because LITERALLY every other nintendo series except (i think warioware) had much bigger jumps on the switch

After Prime 3 I wouldn't agree with that.

fromtranny

oh ok I get it now, of course it's retarded

yeah but that's because you're a nigger-man, a tranny and a nigger (jewish)

If this were true dread would have sold proportionally closer to botw/mario odyssey like how prime was closer to WW/sunshine, instead it didn't even get close. Prime 2 and 3 are successful too so I'm not sure what you're trying to imply, I never said the 2d games after super weren't successful just that they sold less than their prime counterparts.

Metroid and Metroid Prime aren't even in the same league as Mario and Zelda in sales, you're insane to thing any Metroid game whether it's 2D or Prime will ever reach that height, that's never happening. You should be happy with 3 million because I'll be shocked if the series can ever surpass that, I have doubts serious doubts it can.

It's far more impressive than dread which you claim has the same level of hype despite having almost the same number of sales on a system that sold 5 times the amount of the GC

It's not, Dread is the highest selling Metroid game, Prime no longer has that title and has been completely surpassed.

3million is ''''''''''mainstream'''''''''

What?
Metroid is just barely above Fire Emblem sales wise, if even. By no means is this series 'mainstream'.
FFS KIRBY is pulling in twice of Metroid sales.
I agree with the sentiment/idea...but you are just wrong about how popular Metroid is.

you should stop trying to act as if Prime 4 isn't in trouble

you should follow along with my schizo delusions

Prime 4 isn't in trouble, it's a launch window game releasing cross gen on a system that has 150+ million sales

Prime 4 only made Prime fans interested,

What are you even basing this off of? Far more non-metroid fans got to try out Prime 4 via the switch 2 demos

Fusion is the worst 2D Metroid though, only way you can think it's the peak is if it's your first Metroid game.

What part of "it was the first 3D Metroid game" do you not understand? In all tense and purposes, Metroid Dread shouldn't have sold over 3 million units but it did. Saying anything else over being happy over its success is cope, get over it, it outsold Prime 1. Prime 4 will never reach that number if Prime 2 and 3 couldn't.

FED FORCE BROS?! DO WE LIVE YET STILL?!

Metroid and Metroid Prime aren't even in the same league as Mario and Zelda in sales, you're insane to thing any Metroid game whether it's 2D or Prime will ever reach that height, that's never happening. You should be happy with 3 million because I'll be shocked if the series can ever surpass that, I have doubts serious doubts it can.

My point is Prime's sales compared to the zelda/mario released on the same system was way more comparible than dread and the switch zelda/botw

Are you seriously unable to grasp why 2.8 million on GC is more of a feat than 3 million on switch? I feel like I'm arguing with a pre-teen

Dread is the highest selling

Only if you count original runs, it was ported to the switch and sold an additional million putting it well over.

it says "prime", that's a given

Metroid is just barely above Fire Emblem

Nope, three houses outsold every metroid

Why shouldn't dread have sold more than 3 million? Proportionally it should have sold over 10 million if we use prime's GC sales as a reference point

Prime sales were pretty close to ww/sunshine actually. Obviously not selling as much but not too far off. Dread and odyssey/botw are planets apart

20 years ago if you told me we were gonna have nonstop amazing games every month that people would constantly say are trash so they could grift off youtube videos I wouldn't have believed you.

Do you believe that other companies are also releasing good games, or do you think it's exclusive to Nintendo?

Prime 2 released within the same week as Half-Life 2 and Halo 2, and Prime 3 was a month before Halo 3. Not very good timing on both of those accounts. At least now Prime 4 doesn't have to worry about GTA6 cannibalizing its sales (assuming Prime 4 *is* coming out this year, release date would be real nice right now, guys, we're almost halfway into the year, FFS)

Your mom doesnt look good

Your mom can only get apes into the bed, which means your dad is ugly too

Prime fans live in a delusional universe and get mad when a 2D game beats their series in sales. They deny reality, you should have been here when people were complaining about both of the gameplay trailers and the Prime fans kept on defending while pushing others away from being interested in the game. They made something into a console war thing that didn't actually exist.

Prime 4 isn't in trouble, it's a launch window game releasing cross gen on a system that has 150+ million sales

The Wii and DS couldn't even get Prime 3 or Hunters to beat Prime 1 in sales. Install base means nothing.

What are you even basing this off of? Far more non-metroid fans got to try out Prime 4 via the switch 2 demos

It's the same 2002 game with another silly gimmick no one asked for, they address any of the criticism they had for the series in the early 2000s given how much has changed with the FPS scene.

Prime fans believe epstein did kill himself and the cameras went off by pure conincident.

we are almost halfway through 2025 and this hasn't even secured a release date yet?

I was very unimpressed with the most recent trailer sadly.

The sheer irony of such a retarded blanket statement with that image is truly amazing.

This, both gameplay trailers disappointed me.

IKR? It's fuckin stupid they're holding it hostage with the Switch 2 (and maybe DK)

nintendo's marketing has been quite disastrous these past few years, I suspect it's an october release for halloween

I get doing that for Dread, but ain't no way I'm waiting that long for this. It's been long enough, goddammit