Doom

Shiternal BTFO

STAND

AND SHIT

WHILE SHITTING ON ETERNAL

Shiternal

the game is just doom eternal with even more forced systems and every enemy is a marauder

Doom: The Dark Ages of the franchise LOL

I’m so fucking happy that eternalfaggots are getting what they deserve. I just preordered because it makes them mad.

nooooooooooo you can't just do something new with game

we want old game with better graphics!!!!!!

This

New is fine, but not when new is parryingslop with massive parry windows and giant color coded projectiles. The whole game just feels cheaper too. I don't really know how to put it, like a different dev team was given the project.

Okay how does the melee work? Can I kick a demon while in the air/jumping? Also is it true that the sprint is only forward sprinting?

Why will people pay $100 to play a game 2 days early, but $80 is too much for a Zelda game?

Doom is a better franchise than Zelda

Mecha should be like this.

This is brilliant

But I like this:

because Zelda is gay and shit

Erm, no it's not.

Zelda is cool.

Doom gets its own ODST tier spin-off

Yaaaaay....

No air melee, you get a groundslam instead which is okayish. And sprinting is only forward. Your shield bash melee shoots you across the arena like old CoD knifing too. It feels kinda off

$20 really isn't a big deal if you have a job.

2016- Hell yeah
eternal - Hell yeah
Dark ages - Hell yeah

Can’t wait to see how they innovate again in the next game.

Is there anyone who's playing custom difficulty with overall difficulty jacked up(faster game speed, faster projectiles, more aggressive enemies, whatever that means, less room for parrying)?

Yeah I sure loved how Pikmin 4 butchered a bunch of fundamental mechanics for the sake of adding a hecking doggo.

That looks fucking ass desu.

gameplay from a non retard here

twitch.tv/draqu_

Looks like shit

Not giving your shit views, scumbag. Get a job.

Based game enjoyer. Have fun Anon!

So I can't punch a demon or jump kick a demon. Mannnnnnnnnn

And sprinting is only forward.

Doesn't that feel off?

Your shield bash melee shoots you across the arena like old CoD knifing too.

So it's like a more limited meat hook? Is it on a cool down timer?

why would i play nu-doom when i can play megawads in prboom+

Apparently you can still get arial glorykills on hellknights and the bigger guys, but no kicking the fodder enemies. Sprinting does feel off, the overall player speed feels off. I hate feelign forced into blocking rather than strafing(you know, like a shooter?). No cool down timer on the shield bash, but it tends to pick the wrong target and put you into bad positions at range

I’M HECKING READY TO RIP AND TEAR

except the graphics are the same. At least it runs much worse than it's 2 predecessors, so at least it got that aspect of "new game" right

if my comp can run eternal, can it run this too?

it has non optional RT and an NVMe storage requirement, so unless you have a 20 series card (good luck with that btw) and an NVMe SSD you're SOL

STAND UP AND SHART!

*BRAAAAAAAAAP*

LET IT OUT!

STAND UP AND SHART!

No

welp still got the ol xbox
maybe i can just hook my mouse and keyboard up to it

luv doom 1, luv doom 2,
im not raicis i just dont like doom 2016, eternal and shart ages

Apparently you can still get arial glorykills on hellknights and the bigger guys, but no kicking the fodder enemies.

I see. Das BOOT SHALL GET IT'S BLOOD!

Sprinting does feel off, the overall player speed feels off.

You think the devs themselves knew they fucked up and that's why they added the option sliders?

I hate feelign forced into blocking rather than strafing(you know, like a shooter?).

I get what they were going for but why are the parries color coded? Wouldn't it be more fulfilling/better if the player had the choice to parry which projectile is coming at him?

No cool down timer on the shield bash, but it tends to pick the wrong target and put you into bad positions at range

Does the shield bash have a crappy soft lock on system or something? Shouldn't it go where the crosshair goes like with the meat hook?

Heckin' epic, simply epic

How recent is NVMe?

STAND AND CONSUME PRODUCT

AND SHART

so hows the difficulty?
is nightmare actually hard?

Mouse and keyboard doesn’t work with dark ages on Xbox

Who's ready to STAND AND FIGHT?

the samsung m.2 that i bought a couple years ago already has it, basically if it plugs into the mainboard it has NVMe

My bad, the shield does have a cooldown(it's not super long though) and yeah it locks on to a target, but there's no indicator. At long range it'll just charge you towards the wrong thing sometimes.

STAND AND WATCH THE CUTSCENE

It's piss easy for the most part. It'll seem tough at first, but once you learn to block instead of strafe, it gets really really easy. You'll have to use a custom difficulty to get closer to Eternal or even 2016 levels.

Idk but my laptop has it.

So if I got a new gaming computer within the last year or so it most likely has one, yeah?

My bad, the shield does have a cooldown(it's not super long though)

I see

and yeah it locks on to a target, but there's no indicator. At long range it'll just charge you towards the wrong thing sometimes.

That seems to be a big oversight in my opinion. Are there usually a lot of demons grouped closely together?
Any chain/mini gun?

Not that anon but something tells me Dark Ages might actually feel better with a controller compared to the last couple of DOOM games. Especially with the flying segments.

I really like that it's not built around weapon quick switching. Being able to dispatch large groups of mooks so easily is nice too. Parrying is weird but it's its own button which makes it convenient. I wish that the maps were larger and more mazelike, but I think that they are on par with the other nu-Dooms at least.

Why are they btfo? Idgi

Almost certainly.
You can easily check by right clicking your drive in windows, clikcing properties, and going to the hardware tab.

Playing on Nightmare rn with base settings bc I don't believe any game should have a difficulty modifier mechanic as that is extremely lazy and gay, just optimize base difficulties ffs.

Overall I'm liking the game so far, but it is undeniably the easiest Doom game ever made and that is including Doom 3. Proyectiles are slow af for a game they kept marketing as "3D bullet hell", even from what I've seen from streamers who max out every slider. Enemies are few and far between, there's entire open areas with just 2 or 3 imps that will do absolutely nothing to dodge you and everything gets blasted away with max 2-3 shots. It really is weird how fucking easy this feels especially coming from revisiting Doom 2016 and Eternal right before this released. I've died probably 2 times in the first 5-6 levels. Hoping it gets a big difficulty spike down the line but doesn't seem like it.

Yes, the game is almost entirely open areas with a bunch of enemies randomly placed in them. The first gun you get is supposed to be a chain gun, but it's more of an assult rifle before upgrading it. There may be a rela chaingun later too, but I haven't seen it yet.
Teh skull crusher spread machine gun thingy kicks ass though, really neat.

ending doesn't even end with the slayer being imprisoned

doesn't even set up quake with the eldritch shit

What exactly was the point of this game?

I really like that it's not built around weapon quick switching

they never were, you were just psyop'd. the entire game can be beaten easily with just 1 weapon at a time

to extort money from mindless slop consumers

the ammo pool is so fucking low in eternal, this statement is an outright lie.
kill yourself

Thoughts on the color coded projectiles that can and can't be parried?

moving the goalpost

Bro your $30 DLC pass
I recall that Hugo Martin said that they didn't want the game to end with the coffin so they could have more medieval stories

you cannot literally beat the game with just one weapon, stop lying nigger

So they are just charging for an ending, huh?

It's like the reverse of dodging projectiles in OG Doom. But your shield works for both so you get used to bringing it up when the danmaku starts flying around, and running if you get to the three hit limit. I've got to try Metadoom to see how well the mechanics are recreated in that WAD.

still trying to move the goalpost

post hands

the entire game can be beaten easily with just 1 weapon at a time

This is a total and obvious lie.

Skull gun does seem cool.
It seems that the lock on for the shield bash should be tightened and have an indicator for what it's locking onto.
Can the shield be used as a chainsaw/buzzsaw like how you can use chainsaws back in 1,2, and 64?

There's nothing I hate more than a game full of these settings
I don't know the proper daze duration I should be using, you're the game developer, you balance the game.

It's like the new sonic games where they expect you to tweak the exact traction of sonic

Nah. Things like the Spirits in Ancient Gods 1 require you to quick switch to a specific weapon AND quick switch to a specific weapon mod while trying to dodge everything as you are microwaving them. That shit was just annoying. And what said. 2016 was generous enough with ammo and there weren't super specific and sometimes mandatory weaknesses.

retard still going

sukhdeep post hands

Just use one of the difficulty presets?

Hur dur, I was only acting retarded

Is there a separate player and demon movement speed?

you said quickswapping, none of what you retards are claiming is quickswapping is actual quickswapping, it's just swapping a weapon, you dumb brownoid.

what a retarded nigger, literally kys faggot

this is what quick swapping is according to the game, you dumb ebony teen

why are you baiting like this? are you being paid? no one mentioned quickswapping, you claimed you can beat the game with just one weapon, which is untrue.
why am I even responding to an obvious retarded troll/marketer? here's your (you) I guess.

This game moves so slow, not the Doom I know

What is it about Eternal that makes retards seethe so hard? It's a fun game and runs on black magic.

you tried to claim the game is built around weapon quick switching and then you went into copemode trying to move the goalpost after you got caught out you actual dumb illiterate brown teen

my only complaint is they should not have removed gameplay features such as dashing and double jump
for 2016 to eternal, they only added and it was praised

Difficulty modes mean nothing. All the real difficulty is in the settings.

Gameplay speed

Damage to player

ON/OFF Slowdown and Parry windows

150% gamespeed mode is insane. I don't think anyone on this board will ever touch it cause they suck at games.

you claimed you can beat the game with just one weapon

who said this? again, who the fuck said this?

Up the gameplay speed in the settings pussy.

Why does everything need to have parrying these days? Every single action game is all about parrying. Turn based RPGs have parrying. Even fucking first person shooters have parrying. Can't wait until devs somehow figure out how to shoehorn this mechanic into racing and strategy games.

the sliders are essentially accessibility options, nobody is actually going to play the game at 500% dmg taken or whatever, and i hate that they tried to mask them as additional difficulty settings.

and the walk speed should be an upgrade you can level up.

It filtered shitters so hard they literally dumbed down Dark Ages. What do you think it is that causes seethe?

500% damage taken is basically 2-3 hits and you're dead on nightmare. Its actually not that bad considering if you parry properly you can get plenty of health back and its also all over every arena area.

Pay $100 to bug test your game

lol

It's a lazy way to add mechanical skill to a game

I’ll be playing it, despite the contrarianism surrounding the game
Anything that makes v niggers and roaches seethe is a good thing

we all say this and want this

It was real in my mind

Its absolute dogshit

Dark Souls strikes again.

the goys will just have to buy the next $100 sequel to find out!

It filtered shitters so hard they literally dumbed down Dark Ages

Good job proving you haven't played it. Real difficulty modifiers are in the settings, the named difficulities mean nothing, basically one death run, limited life run, and normal mode.

truly a return to form

press the fast forward button

The flow is still off, doesn't feel right

it's actually kino

Doom always wins baby

Oblivion has no parrying:)

Even at the highest modifiers the parry window is 3 seconds long

150% is a speed increase over the entire game which makes it look completely fucking retarded
But you are completely fucking retarded so figures you would like that

nobody is actually going to play the game at 500% dmg taken or whatever

moonmoon is doing this and at 150% speed

that's essentially just doing challenge run stuff like if you opted not to get any upgrades in eternal so you're always at 50% of max armor+hp.

i'm watching a stream and at least the early level looks so mind numbingly easy and i'm just hoping it's overcorrecting for the early game difficulty in eternal but i have already sort of heard the entire game is overall a notch down in dificulty vs eternal

streamers doing it for reactions doesn't count. also see

STAND AND FIGHT YAAAAS

The difficulty slider makes the game feel like it wasn't really balanced for any specific options. I started on stock nightmare and default settings and this shit is slow and boring. I go up to 130% and while it is funner and faster, the difficulty doesn't feel right.
The modern obsession with "accessibility" is really exhausting because it causes shit like this to happen. Take an otherwise really great game so far, and force this stupid ass shit into it because Uncle Billy has 4 kids, is going through a divorce, and works 2 full time jobs only has 1 hour a week to play the game and you know he's bitching and moaning about it on Reddit

Where the fuck were the DE priests in TDA. Hugo you are a fucking hack. You added all this bullshit lore and it isn't even consistent

except watching him it doesn't even look bad

the speed is nuts at 150% though but all im saying is bitching about the difficulty when they give you the sliders is just autism

Even if it's half as good as 2016 and Eternal it'll still be fun. The Razowind shield and dino flying are also pretty much ripped straight from TUROK so I basically have to play it as a fan of those games.

125-130% speed feels a bit better to where the game doesn't feel like a x2 video being played, it is weird how that game straight up fast forwards though.

streamers doing it for reactions doesn't count.

if you knew moonmoon you would know this isnt true, hes just autistic and likes to do shit on the hardest modes

I don't read any of these threads, is Ages supposed to be a pun on Aegis given the shield theme of the gameplay?

Ayooo bruh this new fortnite season lookin crazy ahh bussin bro. But finna where the craftin bruh? Sheesh fr

MCU tier story

ID has fallen

Gaylo 2016 and Doom 3 shitters so mindbroken by getting filtered from Eternal's fun zone they are now praising a game considered boring and easy from the overwhelming majority of critic reviews...

They have bitched and moaned about how arena rotations and crowd management do not belong to real Doom and now they are praising a Doom game with vehicle gimmicks and stationary turret sections.

stealing from Quake

stealing from COD

stealing Turol

stealing from GoW

*Meant Razor Wind.

Man this game is garbage.

I can only imagine how easy the games gonna be on the normal difficulty for normal gamers. The more you progress in the game, the more ammo and health you get, including weapon runes and upgrades. Like my max ammo is already 10 more on every weapon and the game has gotten significantly easier because I don't have to weapon swap to weak guns as often anymore.

it all just comes back to bad difficulty and game design. eternal had no problem offering tough challenge without hamfisted "design your own difficulty!" sliders, it required you to meet the game at certain point and that's where the fun begins once you reach that point and surpass it.

Waitta minute, are you that same anon that sperged out about the optimal strategies in Doom Eternal?

Gamers are for the most part complete fucking drones. They get served the most innovative game in the single player FPS genre in a decade and instead of embracing it they cry like little babies.

stealing from Quake

I'd kill for a new SP Quake. Dark Ages is probably the closest we're going to get for awhile though

stealing from GoW

Gears of War? Are there vehicle segments/Brumak sections or something?

the most innovative game in the single player FPS genre

You better not be talking about Dark Ages, because Ultrakill got to the FPS parry pie first

Cope

fucking based

No, its basically the dark age for reality. The sentinals as a race are wiped out due to heaven being power hungry and using them as a shield rather than fighting alongside them, which causes hell to wipe out almost all life in most realities and like 95% of heaven. A few sentinals survive and hide in the buttfuck out reaches of the universe a.k.a Earth and start over in hiding. The Slayer acts as a wall and holds off the entirety of hell on his own while heaven REEEEs trying to amasss enough energy to control the slayer again, which leads them to tap into hell energy and demonize themselves.

innovative? Color coded parrying is not new, and other games have done it better.
Better yet, no colors needed, Ultrakill has much better mechanics in every regard.

the same people defending the game will be shit talking it as soon as their favorite streamer does

Yes, and are you going to try arguing again using plasma gun is the optimal strategy for doomhunters when nobody actually thinks it is, right off the back of being utterly BTFO in a completely unrelated argument

the game is just doom eterna

No

9 years later and DOOM 2016 is still king.

A. You have to argue with what people actually say and not shit you made up in your head
B. Take your meds

The fact that I could pick you out on here immediatley should give you some pause about how crazy and out of place you sound

Nah other way around. Once streamers try to fit in and start shit talking it because others are, Anon Babble will start to praise it.
Happens every fucking time.

there is NO WAY the same people that criticized eternal for having downtime with parkour etc are the same people praising this piece of shit game. the open world feels so empty and you gotta look for demons yourself.

the gameplay literally waters down to a glorified QTE minigame, except you have 5 seconds to parry the green attacks. this game genuinely feels baby mode compared to eternal, AND is also boring at the same time. the music is also kind of a downgrade, it's not as punchy as the previous 2 games.

KB&M = Jet Fighter
Controller = Tank

FPS designed for controller kills another game. Sad.

The fact that I could pick you out on here immediatley should give you some pause about how crazy and out of place you sound

the fact that you remember this exchange and bring it up with random anons you might suspect are the person you argued with means how much your embarassing humiliation still stayed with you, and you think it's a good idea to have another go at it?

A. You have to argue with what people actually say and not shit you made up in your head

you claimed the game railroads you because there are optimal strategies for enemies, but then you were shown how those strategies aren't actually optimal, making it ironic you claim the game "railroads" you with optimal strategies when you aren't even using the actual optimal strategies.

This. "Gamers" played Eternal, got fucking rekt and went back to complaining about how the devs ruined Doom. Nah nigga you're just old and shit at games, quit the hobby if you can't handle eternal, let people with functioning hands have games that are fun to play for once.

Blame the shitters who bitched endlessly about Eternal.

lmao, I wasn't the guys you were arguing with, but it's hard not to remeber the anon typing walls of text to argue with everyone and accusing them all of being the same person. Like it screams mental illness man. I'm genuinely telling you that you should take a break from the internet or something.

I'm talking about Eternal obviously. It's the perfect example of why gamers deserve their slop. They get served a gourmet meal and cry because their taste buds can't handle it.

Honestly, if TDA does well, you may be totalyl correct. Jsut gotta make the game easier and bloated for the normie masses to love it.

the only way you'd remember some random exchange on Anon Babble and brought it up days later was if you were actually involved in it. otherwise there'd be no reason for you to be so dismissive about my points unless you were actually the retard trying to refute them hopelessly because of how retarded and indefensible that is with your claim you made in the first place about optimal strategies.

I cant believe people like these new doom games with their dogshit melee and hopping around like a retard. Brutal Doom is infinitely more fun than this

Sheesh man, I hope you're trolling.

dogshit melee

Blood punch is one of the most useful abilities in the game.

trolling about what? the fact that you don't have a single point to make after thinking about our argument for a week?

I'm about a third of the way through and I'm not enjoying it as much as I did Eternal. It's fun, and I still need to get used to parrying shit, but it feels like something is missing. Namely a lot of options that were present in 2016 and Eternal.
Also Doomguy talks again.

Fags bitch about Eternal

Devs listen

They release this turd

The only thing eternal needed was to remove all the reddit le ebin shit and make it look darker, but nooooo, faggots wanted to complain.

what the fuck is this level design. it's like theyre remaking 2016. just gigantic open flat areas in a box lol instead of mini arena maps with paths and routes.

a week

haha, okay I see. Honestly, that's a 10/10 troll. You should pull this shit on reddit, they'd lose their minds arguing with you, at least until some dickhead mod bans ya

Agreed. The majority of the game is bereft of actual fucking levels, just big empty fields.

Thats fine im talking about the glory kill shit that youre forced to do thats basically like a cutscene

hopping around like a retard

That would be every FPS in existence. Don't forget backpedalling to kite enemies. Video Games are all the same lmao.

kek at microjeet game pass ruining the sequel to THE GREATEST SINGLE PLAYER SHOOTER OF ALL TIME

ain't no hopping in descent

base campaing looks too easy after eternal. why is hugo so scared of applying his own design philosophy now? they could easily have made the game slow and brutal but also difficult. i'm already seeing a lot of ppl just play with the speed cranked up so the whole design philosophy just falls to pieces immediately.

you just keep claiming i'm trolling while ignoring how indefensible your own stance is ie. claiming the best way to kill doomhunter is with plasma gun

youtu.be/7zOEnioApQo?t=12

frost grenade into max dps quick swap into the sled into LOB on the torso is the fastest way but this guy does it swapping.

youtube.com/watch?v=7YcT8ocY6RQ

another completely independent guy does it similarly.

nobody actually does this shit you claim is "optimal" as taught by the game.

so hugo lied when he said you could make the game hard and the difficulty sliders werent there to make the game easy

Likely story, DaQuan Hill.

FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM
youtube.com/watch?v=q6a-KJrovbo

Board that plays easy peasy games likes an easier peasier game

People around these parts are playing Elden Ring and Marvel Rivals. Anon Babble ever having taste was more of a myth.

why is hugo so scared of applying his own design philosophy now?

Because Eternal got a lot of flak for making players engage with the mechanics.

its not in Doom. the physics are so weightless feeling in the new games

You are making Dark Ages sound good.

Gears of War? Are there vehicle segments/Brumak sections or something?

Mmm...yeah.
Actually even the Sentinel design is inspired by Gears, but like Gears 4.

are you going to tell me how using plasma gun vs doomhunter is optimal again, or wait a week and then start crying about it in a completely unrelated discussion where you once again have no argument

i must be in opposite world cause wasn't eternal one of the most well received games of all time

I hate they went even further with MUH LORE and STORY. It's fucking Doom. 2016 explained its plot in one elevator ride. Eternal fags fuck off, it had too many elements at once to manage and the constant weapon swaping to get demon weak spots otherwise they're sponges got old really fucking fast.

inb4 filtered

Fuck you i beat this shit on nightmare

It was, and I love the game, but there's a very vocal minority who will bitch incessantly about things that aren't even true if you pay attention.

Tons of the talent left. Tranny shit infested Microsoft

The Makyrs aren't angels nor Urdak Heaven, which was Eternal's big reveal.
They were artificial beings and who knows how much of what Davoth said was true, given there are entities older than Hell itself, so Davoth could had not be The True All Father.

hell to wipe out almost all life in most realities

Is that why Cthulhu is there?

Part of this sounds cool but the execution is so Reddit.

See Anons like this will break every single Arachnotron turret and put a grenade in every Caco's mouth. From their very first appearances until the credits roll.

saar

Cute tummy

KEK AT THE GAME LOOKING LIKE ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT SO THEY FORCE RAYTRACING CAUSE NO ONE DID ANY LIGHTING WORK ON ANYTHING AND IT STILL LOOKS LIKE SHIT

my gacha slut waifu

struggled through nightmare just so he can post a screenshot about not being filtered even though the very fact means he was filtered

maybe if you played on an appropriate difficulty you'd have enjoyed the game, you ruined your experience instead.

making something differently doesn't mean that it's automatically good or innovative

Saddest part is that they couldn't just admit the game was too difficult for them or even try to get past the first few levels. Their fragile egos couldn't take it and so they had to claim the game was in some way at fault. Honestly at least if this game is dogshit I'll get to feel validated and I'll just play Eternal a bunch more times.

Its about the principle you retarded goycattle subhuman

the music in this game fucking sucks

A man of taste

Unironically skill issue. Though it's not your fault the game's tutorials are fucking terrible and teach bad practices. Also fuck the story, it's cringey and makes the player LESS cool for killing demons.

The amount of times I've heard that you HAVE TO switch weapons constantly in Eternal is such bullshit. None of the people complaining about that shit even made it half way through.

They doubled down on Reddit crap to the point I considered closing the game a few times.

Repercussions of Evil played straight

John WAS a zombie, so dumb.
It could have worked if not because the game was toned down even more so than Eternal.
I hate how female characters are almost flat-chested now and not even in a way that is sexy because they are adorned in refrigerator boxes.
Our hecking wholesome chungus game about blood and guts can't have provoking imagery, think of the children!

You don't even need to go full stellar blade, pic related is both cool and sexy.
Biological women themselves think pic related is cool, so why is a fucking Doom them so heavily censored?

Graphics are the same but your FPS has been halved thanks to meme tracing and Unreal Stutter 5. You're welcome.

So true sister, STAND AND FIGHT!!!

im not paying for this game at full price and neither should you

Eternals gameplay is fine. I didn't get filtered i just said it was tiring to constantly be switching weapons. Miniscule ammo totals reinforced it further. I don't HATE eternal i just have criticisms of it. From the gameplay of Dark Ages i'd much rather be playing Eternal than that.

Read above.

The worst part about Dark Ages is how much it backpedaled on Eternal's design. They made some guns way too useful on their own, and I'm at the point when I'm ignoring the shotguns. In a Doom game.

Eternal fags fuck off, it had too many elements at once to manage

Are you saying that Eternal had too much gameplay?
Blow me, retard. You are the cancer killing videogames, anon.
Return to From Slop shit or whatever gay JRPG you were playing before and stay there.

Seriously, what a fucking idiot, playing Eternal is exactly like playing as the Scout in TF2. Same fucking thing.

Ultrakill MOGS shiternal.

2016 was better. Cope.

Eh, they could have cut down on all the cooldowns. I didn't need grenades, freeze bombs, flamethrower, blood punch, and the chainsaw(sans ammo) on cooldowns.

What the fuck are you even talking about. Eternal is piss easy outside Nightmare / ultra nightmare. I've beaten ultra violence without interacting with like half of the mechanics. Eternalfags live in some imaginary world, literal cultists.

Blood Punch isn't on a cooldown.

Does this worth 100 buck

Doom the Dark Ages? More like Doom the woke garbage with muh stronk girlboss.

Also soundtrack is kinda bland.

the whole point of eternal is getting into a nice groove with the the rotation of abilities and weapon/mod specific strategies for dealing with x enemies you cook up. it's not a game where you just hold down left mouse and run around and it doesn't need to be. there's a million AAA games that are that for you and if eternal's not for everyone that's fine by me since it's my favorite AAA FPS easily.

That's a problem that first appeared in Quake and both Eternal and Ultrakill resolved, UK being the better example.
The larger issue is that the game plays like a whole different series and tries too hard to be EPIC to the point it is annoying.

The final boss repeats the tag line of the series, and then kills DoomSLAYAR's dog so you know he is super serious

John WAS the DEMONS and also a ZOMBIE

Bunch of non important secondary characters that are given too much fucking screen time.

Reprise of all the shit no one wanted in 2007s

Dark Ages is just a competent Duke Nukem Forever minus the charm.

Oh my bad, did it require kills or glory kills? Either way, my point is that it's too much stuff with arbitrary mechanics in a shooter. Like ammo, fuel, greandes always makes sense, but it's just unitnuitive to have everything use random resources or have cooldowns.

I'm glad I didn't pre-order this shit, of course they would make it more reddit, Hugo is a gigantic turbo reddit basedboy himself. Jesus Christ, how the hell do you fuck this up? The moment I saw mech and le being heavy metal dragon, I knew it was going to be unbearable

I've beaten ultra violence without interacting with like half of the mechanics.

Very good, now let me see your Master Level marks.

All they had to do was literally making another doom 2016 and use everything from there. This mario glowly parry shit is bullshit.

That's a problem that first appeared in Quake

Not really. Aside from the regular nailgun, every weapon has a purpose. Even the starting shotgun and axe.
The frag, ice bomb, and flame belch were all an evolution of the grenades from 2016, but they were all equally useful.

hey, this looks like any other ego shooter your mom is super gay.

I did not play it. The only thing that matters is the base game and DLC. I did not like the game enough to get into autistic shit like master levels.

tfw I Just buy 4060 2 days ago

so which settings can my pc run with this card

No Quake references

Constant crashes and freezes

Easiest Doom game of the last decade

Lovecraftian gods appear at some point for no reason and no explanation

The ending explains nothing and is anticlimactic

The mace acts like a bfg, it kills almost anything in a single hit and everything else around it

Still constant ammo management like in Eternal

You have to constantly parry, nearly all enemies shoot colored projectiles

You move a lot slower to force you into parrying since you can't dodge anything anymore

The standard shotgun has higher dps than the supershotgun

There's two identical skull-crushing machineguns with one being just superior to the other in all departments

The bfg is now a crossbow

Most maps are huge open areas but the only thing to find is secrets and challenges

Secrets just show up on the map

Nearly all enemies behave like the marauder, forcing you very hard to play against them in a certain way:

Cacodemons shoot purple walls that force you move left/right

Revenants are immune to damage until you parry them

The "komodo commander" hits the ground with green novas that hit you from 5 screens of distance and force you to parry

The shield guys cannot be damaged until you parry them

The sections where you fly on top of the dragon just have you shoot the same 5 turrets while parrying projectiles

Final boss is recycled 5 times, and of course you have to parry everything

The music is whatever

charges by GK or by overcharge hp bubbles. if they put BP on a cooldown like all the other gadgets it'd have to be nerfed. it basically is a better super shotgun that fires in a massive arc and also force staggers everything and i dont like that, its fun to just go ham with double blood punch and muscling out of a bad situation.

It's fun. I like the focus on melee and zipping around the levels with the shield dash is cool
Also the ball and chain weapon is addicting as fuck
Still don't think it will top Eternal but I will only be able to decide that after multiple playthroughs. The story is not great so far only 9 missions in. A couple cool moments but overall boring

>Constant crashes and freezes

I don't even meet the recommended specs and I haven't had a single crash in 6 hours.

wasting so much time and energy just to hate on a random video game that nobody will remember next week, on a imageboard full with bots and old male looser who don't have a job or girlfriend and will never have a job or girlfriend in their whole life.

go watch some animes, anon.

twitternigger that doesn't even know about word filters talking about reddit

nu-Anon Babble in a nutshell

it should have been Quake the Dark Ages

massive parry windows

go into the options and turn the windows down then

and giant color coded projectiles

mod them out if you care so much?

Why will people pay $100 to play a game 2 days early, but $80 is too much for a Zelda game?

NINTENDO BAD, OKAY?!

I just played Eternal and I really liked 2016 but Eternal is shit, I'm constantly out of ammo and it just isnt fun

Quark; Dorky moms.

The dragon could have worked
The chick could have worked
Everything about this game could have worked out fine, but it is subjugated by corporate mandates.

A girl riding a dragon is quintessentially heavy metal.
How do you fuck that up?
One, the dragon design is fucking stupid and they should had gone with something more classic.
His movement should have been made more freely, similar to Halo's Banshee, and while you are at it give it an attack that allows it to devour enemies for health or something, his very own glory kill.

The girl just looks like a gears of war character.
She should have been a romantic interest designed similarly to pick related.
It does not need to be exactly boob armor but giving her a full military attire when she was a McGuffin at most was dumb.

Sham because the gameplay is not too bad, but there is still a ton of hand-holding, which was exactly what held back Eternal from being a 10 / 10 game.

Wheres the ammo drop and max ammo that can be held modifier?

how woke is it?

subjugated by corporate mandates

Listen, Ukraine really needs those long distance rockets from germany.
Give crackheads a chance.

Does this game still use Vulkan or is it DirectX only now?

Not really.

The regular nail gun and shotgun get in the way after you get the Super versions.
The same happens in Quake 2.

You cannot even justify going back to them to save on ammo.
They just kill enemies much slower.

Super woke, you play as your gay mom, killing super ultra realistical neo nazis from 2025.

Youre just switching weapons very fast, 2016 is way better than Eternal

STAND

AND

FIGHT

10 missions in and nothing woke so far

faggot

You genuinely missed the best parts of the game, which were free add-ons.
I pity the anon who doesn't know the merriment provided by the Super Fun Nest Master Level.

YOUR

MOM

GAY

brutal doom

Only Anon Babble is casual enough to think of Brutal Doom as anything but trash.
Then again, we know a board made up of gacha slurpers will get instabtly filtered by the likes of Sunder or Okuplok.

there is a girlboss character who is actually stronger than her father or doomguy

she is also doomguy's commander

A girl riding a dragon is quintessentially heavy metal.

Who the fuck gives a shit about heavy metal, its a fucking shooter, not music

for me its the taras nabad funroom

The bfg is now a crossbow

I am starting to think that this was the Heretic revival we deserved but was changed at the last minute because Starfield was a fucking piece of shit and Bethesda had a huge egg on their faces so they took it out on Id.

Fuck.

That's because you suck.
2016 is Doom made for the COD and Halo audience

Eternalfaggots SEETHING in this thread is a sight to behold. It’s dare I say…a dark ages for them…

I'll play Quake again instead thanks

Still constant ammo management like in Eternal

So the game is shit

the only thing i'm seething about is no day 0 crack. i can't wait to jump into this game and crank up the speed to 150% and parry window to smallest

The medallion room was worse but I liked how for once the Archviles lived up to the reputation as bad motherfuckers.
I still hope the DLC turns Dark Ages around.

According to the casuals of Anon Babble

Heretic revival

Nowadays nobody cares about Hexen/Heretic, anon. It's a dead franchise.

5 min cinematic intro about le badass doomslayer

2016 had 2 lines of text and it was perfect

2016 is Doom made for the COD and Halo audience

You stupid nigger, what a dumb take.

The funny thing is that since slavs toasters are finally catching on PCs from 10 years ago, Doom 2016 has amassed an important fandom in cheeky breeky territories to the point they are making mods to make older FPS play like Doom 2016.

2016 was Doom made for the COD audiemce

Does it have the shitty platforming elements like eternal?

to make older FPS play like Doom 2016.

So they are reducing speed, lowering the enemy count to 8 and making all guns kill in one shot?

i am not a fan of mick's farts noises either, but man this new soundtrack sucks the big one

hulshult was unavailable or what?

the base campaign is never going to please people who got to a point they finished master levels on nightmare in terms of the challenge so i hope so. maybe i will mess around with the difficulty sliders like i see streamers doing, seems just natural in a game with so much empty space just needing to be trod through.

Xbox 360 era is back, make gameplay worse but make everything grimdark. Weird fucking shit

What an accurate description of Half-Life.

grimdark

Good, i'm fucking tired of cutesy, woman pandering slop like Palworld, Pokemon or 99% of modern games

hulshult was probably someone they saw as "doom music guy" since he already worked on quake champions and after bethesda burnt all bridges with mick it seemed logical to look elsewhere. my headcanon is that the ID higher ups really despise a large part of the community and just want the IGN crowd engagement without the whiny doom nerd baggage which i see as totally understandable

No, but instead it has terrible mecha and dragon segments.

grimdark

What, you want rainbow woke garbage instead?

switching weapons is not fun

That era sucked, only the early 360 era was good, the OG Xbox was so much better.

This board thinks gacha slop is fun so not sure why anyone would listen to /v's opinions on what makes something fun

mod them out if you care so much?

Do the devs job for them

Nah, Hugo.

the music and maps are so fucking bad... the two most important things to doom

nta from what I have seen the closest thing to being stronger is the wraith in her and even then you beat the boss who uses the same power in her, also she never does anything annoying like belittle doomguy, in fact she treats him just fine

You'd think if music was important to Doom it would hire a real composer like Steve Jablonsky or Lorne Balfe, not literally whos who just make dubstep

I only played the first chapter and already appreciate that they cut that out. It's like the DDT being a spot to a transional move. Just keeps things moving.

filtered by the likes of Sunder or Okuplok

Both of these are long, grindy and unfinished. I believe you haven't touched them without iddqd/idfa either. If touched them at all, of course.

Eternal was pure ludo

They are the best levels ever attached to Doom, and if you took Eternal and gave it the slaughter map treatment you'd get the single best FPS ever,

they should've went with levy and hulshult instead of the craighslist version of those guys

out of curiosity, do you hate cinematics in general and think it's reddit shit or do you hate it being applied specifically in cases that it doesn't belong like doom?

Lol are you still going on about that? Why do you think composers who are known for making orchestral stuff a good fit for a franchise known for having either metal or industrial

They should have gone for a composer that made real music and not dubstep-heavy metal slop.

Just because a franchise has only had garbage music so far doesn't mean it can't get better.
And if not, at least stop going on about the music.
It's still embarrassing how people unironically point at BFG Division as if that doesn't prove my point.

r u the guy who had a meltdown about "music snobs"

So your pick is generic composer-man Jablonsky?

Yes, way better than the faulty recording devices that resulted in nuDoom's OST, the only games where I had to mute the music out of pure annoyance

this with 2016 kek

steve jablonsky did the music for gears of war and lorne balfe did the music for call of duty

that's really a retarded idea

youtube.com/watch?v=Bb005ZiKHdY

this is what happens when you get a generic composer guy to try their hand at something they're not comfortable with

youtu.be/Bb005ZiKHdY?t=343

an extremely experienced composer made this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Murray_(composer)?useskin=vector

and he has no idea what the fuck he is doing wtih the whole mix falling apart, and lacking in compositioning and arranging.

Yes, way better than the faulty recording devices that resulted in nuDoom's OST

are you the guy who was seething about "music snobs", you sound like him.

It feels like injustice. Everyone with a brain knew this when Eternal came out, but yet here I was being attacked relentlessly by casual shitheads for criticizing Eternal. It was really hard to get a word in back then. Now where are all those shitheads who defended the game? Why are they so quiet?

are you implying that World at War's soundtrack was bad? I'm genuinely confused. You are a fucking retard with no taste.

Gachapleb filtered by Eternal

Yup.

i dont know man this isnt any worse than doom 2016 or eternal or whatever man.... cant get much worse than fucking djent dubstep bullshit.... classic doom soundtrack was good becaus eit was just midi rip offs of classic late 80s thrash riffs

I beat the first level and the slayer yelled "Fuck Trump and fuck white people." It's pretty woke.

The Anon Babbleedditor seething about Eternal is an unironic gacha shitskin.
Pathetic casuals

I genuinely like the WaW score. It sounds so angry and messy, which really fit the tone of both that and Black Ops.

Eternal was built around constantly dash hopping and doing weapon swap combos hitting weakpoints to execute if you played any other way you will runnout of ammo, honestly it was dogshit I didn't finish it but I did finish doom 2016

I beat DOOM eternal on ultra violence the first time i played it. Did i play it wrong? Am i a casual?

lorne balfe did the music for call of duty

is he the same retard or are you confusing him with >are you implying that World at War's soundtrack was bad?
not only bad, amateurish. amateur mixing mistakes all over the place. guitars are too thin and compressed. the drums are obvious cheap VST instrument samples that have been incorrectly compressed and mixed. the arrangements are full of shit that don't make sense for the genre they are supposed to be in. i could probably go on but i cba to listen to this garbage more than 30sec

You are a fucking retard with no taste.

go ahead and prove me wrong then.

thrash

youtube.com/watch?v=zZMg9ryeWOw

youtu.be/zZMg9ryeWOw?t=40
is pretty much classic thrash inspired but you r in drop C tuning or w/e

No, you don't get to flip the narrative around so soon. Back when Eternal came out there were countless of threads here full of assholes pretending they are the future and we are the past, yet look at us now. You are the past and we are the future. It was a failed game and all that puffing out your chest was for nothing, you look like a clown now that Dark Ages is better and every other Doom is better too. Eternal is the ugly duckling.

Which is why 2016 is casual trash.

a failed game

According to who, the gacha slurping shitskins of Anon Babble?

Son you need to lay off on the adderall a bit and I will disown you if you decide you want me to call you by your fursona.

he also honored quake 2 music youtube.com/watch?v=QtK-89u5N64

Nightmare

Parry Window Small

Damage to player 500%

Damage to demons 100%

Enemy Aggression Most

Game Speed 125%

Ammo Drops 25%

Now this is gaming.

classic thrash

More like classic trash, that's just blank noise

That depends on how hard it was for you. If you didn't struggle at all at the beginning before finding your groove you played it on too easy.

2016

kino, literally perfect

eternal

weapon swap slop

dark ages

parry slop

nah man drop C is basically only one full step bellow + dropped lowest string.. this is A standard. almost one octave lower than a normal guitar tuning. this is chuggy djent nerd style music not thrash metal LOL.

>we want old game with better graphics!!!!!!

yes

What a surprise that the board that only plays the most casual slop in the market thinks the easiest Doom of all, a literal COD clone, is the best one

easy things cant be good

It was a failed game

Eternal is the highest rated and best selling Doom game, causing anal prolapse of shitters is not a metric of failure

nah djent will never get to 280 bpm or anywhere near it w/e that track is, that's thrash metal. or if you half time it then it's doing a snare blastbeat which is black metal shit but that is not black metal, it's thrash due to the simple fact that it's a fast riff played over a 4/4 time with high transient metal tone. dunno why you'd try to call it djent just because lower tuning. you can make pop punk with 8 string guitar it doesn't matter to the genre

meh, mick gordon gets wanked a lot because he's genuinely just that good. here's him going for the same tension building vibe that the WaW goes for youtu.be/EIeywEamA_8?t=1074 but just done in a more solid way since he actually understands the full scope of the work not just a part of it and knows how to utilize the right sounds in his arrangement.

unironic vehicle segments

unironic shitty parry gameplay

utter trash soundtrack

wtf happened.

This is just fucking Doom 2016 electric boogaloo. Where are the dash and 'lethal's buttons?

it's not good. you only think it's good cause it's easy, cause you suck at everything.

Honestly we're too fucking nice

Fuck Stratton for stabbing Mick for no reason. I hope he goes bald or something

meh, mick gordon gets wanked a lot because he's genuinely just that good. here's him going for the same tension building vibe that the WaW goes for youtu.be/EIeywEamA_8?t=1074 but just done in a more solid way since he actually understands the full scope of the work not just a part of it and knows how to utilize the right sounds in his arrangement.

Nah fuck him. Get Uncle Al to do Doom The Squirrel Ages in 5 years instead

youtube.com/watch?v=dTISF4ZwjMg

so the game was designed around 150% speed? why arent you guys playing on it

Yet they abandoned all the designs it had because it was a failed design. You can't argue against that. Plenty of shit games sell on hype alone but can't replicate its success. The developers were smart enough to change the formula before such failure.

It makes them feel like an "epic badass." Literal steaming shit marketed towards the cucklennial audience.

People keep shitting on the soundtrack and I swear I can't hear fuck all in any gameplay I've seen. Either the mixing's fucked or they purposely lowered the volume for their videos.

Wish I could play 2016 but with the finishers from this instead

wow didnt know someone copied rob zombie zoomer way

lmao this track is at 108 BPM not 280 BPM. Find me a thrash metal band who plays in A standard lmao. You have no clue at all what you are talking about. If you were saying it wasnt djent and was industrial metal then you'd have a point. His music is clearly an abomination of industrial metal djent and shitty EDM dubstep crap

the game is piss easy

did you adjust the difficulty settings?

n-no because then the game would be too hard

-__-

People keep shitting on the soundtrack and I swear I can't hear fuck all in any gameplay I've seen. Either the mixing's fucked or they purposely lowered the volume for their videos.

The mixing is definitely fucked but the music is also complete garbage. So for the most part you're better off not being able to hear it.

Ok Steve

Yet they abandoned all the designs

Because they need to CovEr NeW MaRKeTs.
All NOOM trash can fuck off, but that's the obvious truth here. There was never parrying in Doom before, and it didn't need to be. Just like glory kills didn't need to be there. None of this is part of the Doom formula.

c-casual

LOOK AT HOW HARDCORE I AM FOR BEATING A SINGLE PLAYER GAME

Beating Eternal on nightmare is not some glorious gaming feat you double nigger. Eternal is shit because weapon switching, monkey bar flipping and platforming in a doom game is gay and annoying (like you) not because it’s some mega challenging game. This is what you cannot get through your hollow skull. You’ll probably respond by seething so don’t even bother cause I won’t go back and forth with a retard.

you are a literally retard who doesn't know music at all. You already named the wrong tuning and now you are naming a BPM 2X faster than the song you posted.

youtube.com/watch?v=5a9E3n_VZRQ
after doing some research i found out that periphery a djent band is one of his biggest influences on the 2016 soundtrack. here is him preforming with them. dude has the shittiest nerdiest music/taste set of influences. doom 1993 soundtrack moggs him. there is a reason he can't play in some djent band and has to resort to making video game music
(which is all mostly shit compared to actual music).

No, they changed it because they wanted each game to be unique. Why do you think Eternal was different from 2016 to begin with dickhead?

Tbf the music isn't garbage, it's just completely forgettable, which is the worst kind of music. Hulshult should have been brought back instead. I bet he is also super cheap.

Now that I think of it: id studio for Doom Eternal has been released a while ago. Has anyone put your theory to test?

ZOOM: THE EBONIC AGES

eternal's bing bing wahoo jumping and sharding and switching and glory killing and chainsawing loops is fucking SHIT.
doom2 had it best, shotgun for everything, chaingun to stun/far away hitscanners, plasma for big targets, rocket for grouped shitters/big targets, anything else is CRINGE

the graphics are the same as 10 years ago but you need hardware that is 10 times as expensive.
Why?

AAAHHH TOO MUCH GAMEPLAY IN MY VIDEO GAME

sounds like a skip

108 BPM

You already named the wrong tuning and now you are naming a BPM 2X faster than the song you posted.

you don't understand how time signatures work.
youtube.com/watch?v=zZMg9ryeWOw&t=40s

this is a full bar played at 216bpm (sounds more 250+ to me) 4/4. hihats and snare follow 4/4

You already named the wrong tuning

what does this have to do with anything at all? i just threw out a vague guess. you are the one who is trying to make a retard claim that tunings are genre specific. you can make punk in standard E or drop C, that's the point you're failing to graps. you can make djent using just the high E if you want.

periphery a djent band

no, they are a prog band

Objective Marker Style

Objective Marker

Lovecraftian gods appear at some point for no reason and no explanation

Probably a DLC hook or just the leftover designs of Quake before the game was reworked into Doom.

ararghhh, I thinkj im gonna switch... AGHH IM SWITHCING WEAPONS AAAAAAAAAGH THIS IS FANTASTIC GAMEPLAY *BANG BANG BANG* YESSS YESSSS

this is u btw

you control the buttons you press

Exactly. Just press the difficulty buttons if you don't want baby mode.

you choose the buttons you press

Is now

we choose the buttons to press for you

the song is 108 BPM. that's why when he plays doubletime its 216 BPM.
lol show me some punk bands that play in drop C/standard C. Straight Punk bands. No melodic hardcore or sludge metal.

Umm Periphery are djent/prog metal. Early djent is basically prog metal mixed with fear factory type industrial metal.... which is exactly what mick gordon does. Except he adds in some gay EDM dubstep bullshit to make it even worse. This "detuned" thrash metal shit is insane cope. A simple google search for his influences will say the same shit I'm saying.

-ING HERE

HOW DO I DISABLE ALL THIS CANCER ON MY SCREEN??

genuine question, isn't that the Simon says thing everyone complains about in dark ages?

good morning sar!

their two most popular albums are categorized as djent. I don't know why you can't just admit the music you like is djent and have to make some insane bullshit cope about it. See how periphery also add in some shitty electronic influences too. And he literally had them perform with them. It's clear that his video game music is just a shitty version of his favorite band periphery(who suck too)

No dlc its gonna be the true prequel of 2016 ending with the slayah in the cuckcoffin

By regaining your health!

I am just asking
if it's the same in both games then why only complain about one?

just git gud lol

Does someone remember that doom copypasta? It was something like *cocks shotgun*

the song is 108 BPM

what does that matter when the part i linked is 250bpm+ 4/4, the one we are talking about? READ NIGGA READ

Periphery are djent

maybe their new album i haven't listened to. lune and scarlet are their usual style. i dont know what you listened to or if you are just a retard going through google with confirmation bias which is why you're ending up in these situations.

this is classic djent

youtube.com/watch?v=zg2076b5Lqc

this is periphery's style of prog

youtube.com/watch?v=tUltTV3t4OM

Early djent is basically prog metal

um, no. early djent is early meshuggah, they basically pioneered the genre. it has nothing to do with industrial.

is the khan maykr and her sexy voice in this?

if not, im not buying

Because he is a shitter who got filtered.
He is also retarded and wring and using anything plasma rifle or chaingun against certain enemies in classic doom fucks you over

The objective display still stays perma on unless I disable the whole UI, the most annoying part is how it has this big blurred background. I also can't find a way to turn off tips/hints that show up every time I go low health. Good thing I didn't pay full price for this shit.

I don't believe any game should have a difficulty modifier mechanic

Fucking zoomers. Play a goddamn board game for once.

anyone knows if console game pass has a preload option?

This "detuned" thrash metal shit is insane cope

then what is your cope about genres being limited to tunigns about?

no its his cousin the fat maykr that only mentions the slayah its her favourite playtoy to avoid kill him

t. eternalslopper nigger

how many gigabutts of my harddrive will this use on steam?

I just wanted more DOOM 1 and 2 :c
Why does it always need to be some gimmicky bullshit? Woah let's make it a horror survival game where the shooting suck ass, woah let's make it Quake, woah let's make it Dark Souls
2016 wasn't the best but it got closer to the originals than the other games, they should've just worked more on that.

Secrets just show up on the map

that's not very secret

Saar Ages
or
Dark Saars?
Serious answers only.

I 'll only play it if it's harder than eternal.
I need a challenge.

2016 and Eternal had objective markers.

the song is 108bpm. you literally originally linked the song not the part. I don't care what one little section is. it's clearly djent. I don't know why you are coping. You literally said its down tuned thrash riffs. Which is part of the djent formula. Downtuned thrash and groove metal riffs (think metallica and pantera). Why are you in such denial over this?
their first album in 2010 is labeled djent
i know who meshuggah are. they were considered a prog metal band before they were labeled djent. It has everything to do with prog metal and industrial. Ministry was a MAJOR influence on meshugguh. You are talking to me like I don't know any of this when I know more than you.

It's as hard as you want to make it. If you want to be an (((Aspiring Slayer))) you will need to learn some exploits

sad but true. im tired of all the pixely boomer shooters aping the doom formula, I wanted something closer to AA/AAA quality but no, we get this zoomerified mess

Saar Ages

you know what, you got me bro. what you just said is so fucking retarded im unable to even comprehend it and respond to it.
gz

You still haven't named one straightforward punk band that plays in C standard. Also detuned thrash/groove riffs is one of the key defining features of djent music. So you are just proving me right.

cute succ

t. console paesant

Doomguy is canonically jewish

what if it's indie but was original and fun without being gimmicky?

we already have metric tons of indie doom-style games coming out each month, some of them good, some of them bad. There's a big audience for this style of game.
What I'm advocating for is for big devs/publishers to have a go at the original doom formula again instead of the crap they've been outputting since DOOM 3

I'm an avid Eternal and Ultrakill autist and it's NOT harder. It's only hard in a way that you can die in just a few hits on the hardest but the overall "bullet hell" element is very tame and there are no interesting patterns. I am playing on 120% speed and it still feels like a bit too slow. But the problem with higher speeds is that it just start to feel really weird, because the movement was obviously tuned around 100%.

Done arguing with you man. Literally everywhere online says its Djent. Keep coping like a retard with your "google conformation bias" I guess "deathstep" is the correct term for the cringey EDM dubstep sound he mixes in with it

how would a AA/AAA version of such an old simple game be like in your opinion?

I'm older than you nigger. Difficulty sliders are horrible game design, balance the fucking base difficulties, that's literally what the game designer is supposed to do not the player. In that case just release the whole source code like OG Doom then, let people really get in there and do whatever the fuck they want.

does the Game Speed slidee really affect all components of the game including radio chatter? Why? I thought it would only affect enemy and projectiles speed.

Is dark ages still red light, green light?

pls respond

This but

Ammo Drops 200%

are you implying that simple things can't have a big budget, or that a big budget would be wasted on them?
retard

They need RTX to calculate bullet trajectory

I didn't at all anon I am asking genuinely how it would look like sheesh

Probably something like Serious Sam, but maze levels instead of big open areas. Better graphics that you can barely see because of all the post processing and also bad performance

you're supposed to jump around like your xqc and you just did a fat rail of adderal while saying "BUSSIN" at the screen every time you do a glory kill, which will be 50,000 times before the game is over because you will run out of the 2 shotgun shell limit constantly. Also change weapons like you're changing building shapes in fortnite.

the song is 108bpm

irrelevant to my point. i am talking about the section. have always talked about the section, you trying to move goalpost does not change this.

I don't know why you are coping

i am coping, yet you are the one who coined the idea that genres are limited to guitar tunings and are now having to jump around hoops to defend this retard statement.

You literally said its down tuned thrash riffs. Which is part of the djent formula.

Downtuned thrash and groove metal riffs

no, djent fundementals are odd time signatures and polyrhythmic elements with disjointed rhythm sectioning between rhythm guitar and the drums as an example (eg. drums playing 4/4 while guitars play 6/4), scooped tone with boosted upper mids and relatively low gain. classic djent like meshuggah is almost entirely just syncopation. "down tuned thrash riffs" has literally nothing to do with djent. thrash riffs have nothing to do with djent. if we go the way of pretending periphery is djent then periphery's djent has more to do with breaking chords down into arpeggios, that shit has nothing to do with trash.

they were considered a prog metal band before they were labeled djent

what does this have to do with your initial statement that early djent is prog being retarded? DT is early prog, so is DT the inspiration for meshuggah?

Done arguing with you man.

you never had an argument that wasn't some form of crycope about mick gordon being better than your favorite game composer and having a bit of a cry about it. in the meanwhile exposing yourself as having too high an opinion of your own opinions and your music knowledge. there is a reason mick gordon gets wanked endlessly and that is because he is just that good.

Which is why 2016 is casual trash.

it's doom you stupid nigger. It's literally the most casual fps game ever made.

I wish Serious Sam gets a cool well made new game

Yeah me too. FE and SE are amazing and I really liked 2 as well.

Jesus fuck are you still arguing over that shit?

somebody please...

ZOOM THE WOKE AGES

COOM THE DARK ASSES

Thira has a fine ass tho

i think you think im that dude posting the shitty call of duty composer. I think he's ass too. Theres a reason these guys are making video game soundtracks after their shitty bands never could get signed to a label when they were teens.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periphery_(band)
Periphery is an American progressive metal band that was formed in Washington, D.C., in 2005. Their musical style has been described as progressive metal,[1][2] djent,[2] and progressive metalcore.[3] They are considered one of the pioneers of the djent movement within progressive metal.

the OP clearly claims youtu.be/zZMg9ryeWOw?t=40 is thrash inspired. it's even in the name retardo, and you completely ignored the BPM argument and went on some side tangent for an hour trying to cover your fuckup instead just admitting it until now and track is clearly thrash metal inspired more than djent despite how hard you cope and google wikipedia for random shit you have no idea about.

djenet fundamentals also include downtuned thrash/groove metal riffs. you're leaving out part of the formula. peripheries first two albums are classified as djent

groove metal and djent have nothing to do with each other, djent has almost no pentatonic elements to it. what the fuck are you even trying to say?

peripheries first two albums are classified as djent

so why doesn't their music feature 7/8 string riffs as much as meshuggah or the doom ost? you just looked up 2016 ost and saw this band and now you're stuck in a loop talking about something you have zero idea about. their style of prog metal is more about breaking down chords into arpeggios like i already told you, not single string 8-string syncopation like the "actual" djent people think of when they discuss the genre.

YOOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY FIRE

is this like when zoomers play old games bad on purpose or is it really this much of a shit?

I think that this game is going to make me appreciate all other games more. What if that was their plan all along? To make it shit on purpose so that they can make a better game? Because it's just so bad it makes no sense.

Doom eternal is less of a shooter and more of a fighting game

oh no a big demon

now I have to shoot once with rocket then hook in with shotty shoot once in the head then double melee!

watch the cutscene

find next enemy

It should be

demons! Arghh! Pew pew pew pew

Maybe if you want more depth add some weapon customization and build your character how you want to play

Yeah, wasn't the whole thing of the Doom 2016 franchise reboot about going back to what made Doom fun and cool in the first place and getting rid of all the shit that ruined pacing like cutscenes and storytelling? The game literally had sequences where the joke was about mocking exposition dialogue in modern FPS. Who the fuck ever asked for DEEP LORE in a Doom game, the Ancient Gods DLCS truly were a bad omen but I never expected this... feels like they completely lost all the self conscious b movie aspect that made the minimal Doom "story" enjoyable. The whole Makyr thing or whatever was absolute cringe since Eternal but at least you could just ignore it then.

lmao what are you fucking wacky nerds on about now?

the OP

clearly claims [YouTube] Mick Gordon - 02. Rip & Tear (embed) is thrash inspired. it's even in the name retardo, and you completely ignored the BPM argument and went on some side tangent for an hour trying to cover your fuckup instead just admitting it until now and track is clearly thrash metal inspired more than djent despite how hard you cope and google wikipedia for random shit you have no idea about.
It's still 108 BPM. Honestly this track is industrial metal more than anything. But stil lmore djent than thrash.

groove metal and djent have nothing to do with each other, djent has almost no pentatonic elements to it. what the fuck are you even trying to say?

lmao djent is groove metal as fuck man you are an idiot. meshuggah are highly influenced by fear factory and pantera

so why doesn't their music feature 7/8 string riffs as much as meshuggah or the doom ost? you just looked up 2016 ost and saw this band and now you're stuck in a loop talking about something you have zero idea about. their style of prog metal is more about breaking down chords into arpeggios like i already told you, not single string 8-string syncopation like the "actual" djent people think of when they discuss the genre.

lol yea just saw this band literally playing with the guy who made the doom OST. and various articles of him mentioning how much he likes and is influenced by them.

Let's just end this off by timestamping your song again. except another section
youtu.be/QHRuTYtSbJQ?t=113
Wow... this is definitely a thrash metal riff ;). LMAO get your head out of your ass

music is prob most weakest aspect it fine and good noise but very few tracks stick with you. we'll see if anyone of them continue the trend of being memes

nta atlan gameplay revolves around you making punching combos and dodging attacks and projectiles and both of these actions fill a meter
when activated about halfway it makes a stunning stomp and when activated fully it's a super strike
you an also rocket punch to charge onto the enemy to skip space and fight them earlier
the weapons show up a couple of times only and are not the main method of fighting the titans, that's your fists

WHERE DID ALL THE SHILLS GO?
CAN'T DEFEND THE SLOP NOW THAT IS ACTUALLY OUT?

pre-loaded on pc game pass. you arent some goyim who buys games at a full price right?

Watching streamers play this is infuriating. Seems like they're spending more time navigating the menus and/or staring at the map screen than actually playing the game.

Game is hella epic

I've been asking this and no one answered. so there's preload on game pass? I'm on console.

losing mick gordon was the biggest mistake bethesda ever did. this game is basically half complete and should be sold for cheaper price as result.

eternal was too autistic. It boiled down the doom fighting in small intense arenas. instead of a room of 100 enemies its 20 but same intense feeling, i didn't like the trend of weapon mods. Few of them could've combined in to single weapon, i.e shotgun, RL, ballista, heavy cannon, chaingun, switching added nothing. 2016 was too safe and on the rail and suffer the same weapon mod issue.
I'm 1/4 in to dark and the only complaint i have is that soundtrack missing that...ear wormness. Its fine and fitting. Just weakest link.
The halo is much better than flashing colors, idk why took them that long to come up with it.
Haven't cranked it up to super fast. They really did give you lots of options.
People who complain about color are too stupid and/or too lazy (filthy c*nadian) to change it.

Each modern doom feels like a gzdoom community project.
I cant wait for the emulation projects and the spin offs.

lmao go to bed Mick

HE IS

LE DOOM SLAYER

Well you don't really play the game anyway. The game plays you.

It's the tutorial and you're supposed to walk up to those demons and bait an attack so that you can empower your weapon like the box at the start says. It's not a very thrilling experience either way though. The slow telegraphed swings and the very forgiving perfect dodge window make the mech sections very braindead.

played 2016 and eternal

watching DA stream

all this battlefield open space

does it become serious sam levels of insane later or what?

wait, sectionS as in plural?

New one has small areas too. Like the part where you acquire the plasma rifle. It's also really stupid how the game keeps spawning small enemies right behind your back. The fodder always spawned further in Eternal.

I think he did better job with nu-wolfenstein games than he did with nu-doom, but yes the ost is a massive downgrade.

yes

It became Final doom. Be grateful they havent tapped in to doom Slaughter maps.
I really enjoyed the one that used eva music, but holy shit those were mazes.

does it become serious sam levels of insane later or what?

wondering about this too since everything I've played so far (like 5 levels) is just like 2 imps and a mancubus in the middle of a huge arena and I keep wondering why make spaces this large if you're just gonna throw me a couple of enemies every five minutes. Feels really really weird.

the hitstop slowdown meme should trigger at the moment you parry not randomly when the parried projectile is flying back towards the enemy. like in ultrakill.

Nope same levels but they put tentacles and ESO coldharbour in some of the latest levels

doesn't even look noticeably better than eternal

runs a million % worse

How do you get rid of objective in my screen

You think they'd make a mech and only feature it in one level?

The regular nail gun and shotgun get in the way after you get the Super versions.

The regular shotgun remains useful in Quake because it's the best gun you have to hitscan stuff at range. It's good for low-tier enemies.

shut up grandpa, it had to something new after 2016 or else it would get stagnant

NOOOOOOOO WHY ISNT DARK AGES EXACTLY LIKE ETERNAL

It became Final doom

is it TNT levels of boring?

but what does the mech actually bring to the gameplay loop, like can you get on and off it mid battle? Does it have its own upgrade tree? Like what new mechanic does this mech thing has that enriches the gameplay or made it necessary? Did they market test this with a bunch of 9 year olds that asked for dragons and robots?

just "variety" thankfully no im tired of that shit (rpg upgrades)since eternal im gonna plug a trainer when i play it in gamepass to skip that shit

different anon but yes. every shooter game has that one mandatory mobile turret section but it's always just one section. man this is gonna be the worst part of each playthrough.

turret are the less you encounter , dragon loop its shit its a dance dance revolution with a turret and some flying

true

No. It's a gimmick that has its own dedicated sections, there's no getting around it and there's no depth to it. The damage you take during the gimmick sections is also pretty forgiving, whereas it's very easy to lose all your health in one hit on Nightmare for the normal ground combat. Hugo obviously wanted them himself based on the tone of the game as well as Eternal's. It's AWESOME.

needs 5 hour energy and bottle of Ritalin

60 fps on console, which run old amd from the "cant even do basic RT" era.

Pc has become a joke

Well, it's not a mobile turret. It's a mech with its own combat system, disposable weapons and enemy types, simple as they are.

look how they massacred my boy

DOOM 3 was fun

Davoth could had not be The True All Father

wiki says he is a demiurge, a being that has the ability to create reality, but is ranked below the real god

Ultrakill

How does a triple A studio with bazillion dollaridoo budget manage to get it so wrong compared to some random autist from Finland? f.uguu.se/mRQRyqbj.mp4

Expedition 33 slaughters this game.

How are they even competing for the same category?

This game is truly a nod to classic DOOM (and with classic I mean DOOM 2016)

you can still call it mobile turret. like in gears of war you can ride a brumak or a mech and you can punch and stomp besides shooting and it's the worst part of the game. it's always the worst part of the game.

AAA studios always commit to the stupidest ideas because they don't have the creativity or flexibility of indies. The director goes "wouldn't it be cool if..." and that thought becomes a 4-year project and they cannot change course because that would cost them millions of dollars.

the only nod its recycling 2016 intro in the slayah "death" and future dlc

keeping your distance from a big mother fucker and shooting him

that's every single doom game, stop being a tard

Ok but why was 2016 so different from the rest of the market for its time? And how did they make Eternal so good for autistic speedrunners?

its a shame you dont kill the dragon at the end of the game compared to gears

Funner than Shart Ages, that's for sure. Guess that is the only good thing coming from this release, Doom 3 is no longer the worst Doom entry.

why did they put story in this game? and why is there cutscenes? with characters?

because they onions at the speedrunners strats and catter to them

Well the most obvious comparison here is Serious Sam 4 which had a mech it reused several times.

WOOOWW ITSTHE SLAYAH *SNORK*

Well, I don't think very highly of any of the reboot games, but I'd say it's the case of the director no longer having a tard wrangler and going too far. Big games are a team effort, and Hugo's fun zone philosophy and obsession with gimmicks is getting worse with every game and nobody can tell him no.

OG Doom3 was good. BFG Edition is dogshit.

Just use the presets autist

Pretty much my thoughts, someone let the retard out of the cage and gave him TOO MUCH creative control.

The lore and story is giga-retarded holy shit.
AND THEY'RE FOCUSING ON IT.

would it be better if they doubled down on the goofiness of it instead of taking it too seriously?

no

I think ill wait till Doom eternal gets a mod to play like dark ages,we have the tools now there is no excuse sliders be damned.

They couldn't just make doom 2016 again. Instead we get another shit game just like Eternal.

IT'S. NOT. LIKE. ETERNAL.
SHUT.
THE.
FUCK.
UP.

Why did the make Doomslayer a gay?

why not? Doesn't that usually work? or is it because doom shouldn't be goof from the first place?

You could argue this is already them doubling down on it.

Yeah it is because it fucking sucks, just like eternal did.

Nah retardmaxxxin' of this level is only funny when they deliver it seriously and with gusto.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY IS IT LE... DIFFERENT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY IS IT NOT ASSET FLIP COPYPASTE AAA SQUEL #225326326 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP BEING CREATIVE I WANT SLOP #2

doom isn't a weebslop franchise, chud

So what? That doesn't make them the same. I hate women, niggers, eating grass, drinking pee, and the color cyan. Does that mean that these things are the same?

He's a slave to the Makyrs. He got buck broken.

like warhammer?

No. Why is it bad is what I am asking.

I just wanted a doom game, not whatever this is.

Kinda but this feels dumber.

He said it was shit just like this other thing. He didn't say they were the exact same thing.

i can afford it because i have a job at mcdonalds

You have never played competitive quake and it shows.

earlyaccess doom prequel wait until dlc GOY

No you cant even smash freely flail

Good fuck eternal

AND THEN JOHN WAS A ZOMBIE

Not even joking that shit looks like the new call of duty, constant gun swapping moving everywhere gunplay isn't even the focus anymore

neither a marvelslop franchise, faggot

call of duty

constant gun swapping

??

This isn't competitive quake fag this is a single player game called DOOM got it ?

bravo hugo

Have you ever played a CoD game, retard?

not playing unless it gets 50k CCU