Were they right all along about the trajectory of Fallout?
Were they right all along about the trajectory of Fallout?
yes
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The hate against NMA generated by Something Awful troons to defend sloppa like Fallout 3 was fucking insane in retrospect.
Never doubt troon psyops
What is OP even alluding to? I'm not familiar with classic Fallout forum discourse. There's no context given at all, OP just assumes we know what he's talking about.
bethesda and its consequences was a disaster for the fallout franchise
there you go
NMA and RPGCodex called out Fallout 3 for what it was gonna be. Bethesda worshippers at Something Awful didn't like that, so tried to portray the forum as crazy (when if you look into the history of SA, then you've got some absolute loons there)
All of these old forums were right about the trajectory of their favorite franchises because they genuinely love them and wish to see them at their best. Only reddit and twitter, who are mindless consoomers, that think that being critical of new entries is "being a hater". If you ever see any variant of "nobody hates their own franchise more than ------ fans" you can safely ignore this person's opinions because they think being a fan is being an unabashed sycophant that slurps whatever shit they throw at them.
Maybe so but what does it change? Todd won. The normie masses think of Fallout as the wacky wasteland made by Bethesda.
think that being critical of new entries is "being a hater"
This applies to absolutely everything nowadays. Not just reddit and not just vidya. It's the "toxic positivity" cancer.
Vindicated by history like the early Diablo 3 antis who were relentlessly mocked back then but largely seen as being correct today
Blizzard! WHY IS MY HEAD SO BALD?
wah why won't momma bird feed me
you could have gleaned context by reading three posts in, or just looked into it yourself, dumb newfag
well.. yeah
isn't diablo a dead IP that was completely overtaken by shitty AA companies and Diablo 3 is still being considered the worst alongside immortal?
Did i missed something
Worked at Blizzard for a short bit during this time period.
Get asked if I enjoyed Diablo 3.
Tell the higher up no, when asked why, tell them that since its always online it doesn't work, I always get killed due to latency, so I gave up playing.
He gives me a smart ass response about how everybody is online and that I should get a better connection.
Respond with "you do understand not everybody lives in your utopia little silicone valley city with the best internet on the planet right."
He says anybody with a bad internet connection is a hick and shouldn't be playing their games.
Take him straight to HR because I was one of those people he insulted.
Thanks to his discrimination, I am able to keep all the money from my contract, had to get let go, and got a nice small check in the mail as I go to work at Valve for awhile.
Quit because we didn't make shit.
Fuck the game industry I'm going to go draw porn.
gif now reposts my SFM porn all the time.
Thanks guys, without Diablo 3 sucking fucking dick id never found my true passion, cum shots.
Nma is comfy, i remember this one guy with a ncr pic died, postman or something and the whole site had a memorial thread because theirs only like 20ish active daily users. I pop in once in a while but their hasn’t been any positive fallout news in so long
proofs on the porn or you're a lying fag
Progressive faggots boomarang back. When d3 came out i had shotty 6 mb down internet in the usa. i couldn’t imagine being a d2 fan wanting to play the 3rd game in a poor country.
At the time people who complained about Diablo 3's always online DRM WoWification of the artstyle as a bunch of edgy teen crybabies. This sentiment was even common even on Anon Babble. Blizzard still had a lot of prestige and was seen as one of the GOAT developers.
sparkle sparkle sunshine, Diablo 3 was the beginning of the end
But blizzard eventually agreed that d3 is ugly and went back to gothic for d4 it was pretty much the main selling point
Whats cute, is that those people he mocked then went on to have much better careers then him.
Very much so. Even if Interplay ran the series to the ground(something they also criticized), it doesn't change the fact that Bethesda Fallout fucking sucks and they don't even bother to make RPGs anymore.
He didnt. FNV and its legacy proof it.
The shit show the tv show is and the bad reviews.
The smear campain here.
Nothing will change that.
Every single Fallout game is a shining example of shallow, mediocre, trite. Anyone that tries to define a meaningful distinction between them is only declaring to the world that they are a complete and utter midwit that's trying to get a more prestigious position higher up the shit pile. Frankly, it was genuinely appalling having to play through the first two games and seeing where the fucking bar was for you people. Even the things that people hold most dear about them--their story, setting, and writing--barely amounts to a half-decent short stories that are made infinitely worse by having to play through fucking Fallout to experience them.
There is nothing acceptable about Fallout 1 as an RPG released as late as 1997
There is nothing acceptable about Fallout 1 as a tiled-tactics game released as late as 1997
There is nothing acceptable about Fallout 1 as a piece of software that should function and not be cut to ribbons, EVER
It hit rock bottom out of the starting gate and then hit the afterburners to smear what more it could from its fecal existence all over the walls
If you enjoy Fallout, you are subhuman, full stop.
hina would be ashamed of your dogshit opinions
next time i will require opinion of a subhuman nigger, i will call you.
To argue that there are Good things on earth is objectively evil
Fallout 1 is like 5 years before bg1, you sound fucking stupid to pretend it wasn’t revolutionary.
I don't think I've actually heard anyone say that FO1-2 are 'the best RPG's of all time'. It's more-so that they're perfectly acceptable and 'good' in regards to fun and mechanics.
And what's their competition? Fuckall? You'd rather play Avowed over FO2? Come on.
I do genuinely think fallout 1 is almost as perfect as a game could be. Its so well paced with a at the time unique message about humanity’s shortcomings, new imagery which is now iconic, a good memorable ost/art style.
Literally what else could you ask from a game?
FO1 is a little too short, and the number of builds is less compared to FO2.
Counterpoint, i think fallout 2 is way to long for how simple the combat is, and how bad the last few areas are. Fallout 2 is fun until you get to vault 13 or San Francisco, then its suffering. Fallout 1 wraps up way before this point when the world and gameplay is far from stale. Fallout 2 main enemies and characters i feel are also weaker and have far less cohesion compared to the first game in a lot of regards and its clear the game was pushed out the door as fast as possible
I believe you, simply because I've also been exposed to retarded vidya management that made me go indie.
bold story with a then-unique message
imagery that instantly became iconic
music and art that are beyond memorable
literally what else could you ask from a game
Yet again, someone decides to espouse Fallout 1
Call it a perfect game
AND THEY DIDN'T THINK TO SAY A GODDAMN THING ABOUT THE GAMEPLAY
HOW ABOUT THAT, MOTHERFUCKER
HOW ABOUT SOME ACTUALLY GOOD GAMEPLAY IN MY VIDEO GAAAAAAAAAAAAME
I think Fallout 1 is a way better one-time experience on your first blind playthrough, while Fallout 2 is way more repayable. Fuck the story let's try different builds, doing cities in different orders or goofy memeruns
I think the classic fallout modding scene is neat even I it is 100% slavs and literally no one else makes them, something about apocalyptic shit holes really speaks to all eastern Europeans
Yes they were
Fallout 2 is a 15 hour game if you've played it before. It's as long as you want to make it.
I consider it a masterpiece and still play it even now, but I think it's VERY far from being perfect or even almost perfect. I agree that the game design, pacing, writing and roleplaying are superb, but it was significantly hurt by its troubled development (sudden change from GURPS to SPECIAL at the last moment is why some skills are as underutilized as they are).
Then again, I don't play RPGs that actually try to give you a lot of roleplaying and build options and expect a smooth experience. I think it's pretty much inevitable that RPGs like Fallout will always be kinda awkward in some ways.
Gameplay is a meme unironically. People love jrpgs and thats just selecting attack and cure over and over. Shooters are just click the mouse on the guy. Its everything surrounding the gameplay that makes you immerse and the experience special
Do you make more doing NSFW stuff than you did as a dev? It seems that the 3D NSFW industry is saturated with a lot of artists at the moment.
It was like 6 months before BG1. I remember both games coming out at nearly the exact same time.
Please mister vault dweller, help us stop the radscorpions, we figured out how to build walls and houses, but we can't figure out how to make a small gate
here's your perfect game kek
something about apocalyptic shit holes really speaks to all eastern Europeans
That's because they live in real apocalyptic shit holes.
he looks cooler when he's angry.
Fallout Sonora with the new English patch is as good as Fallout 1 and 2 IMO. I used to think it was shit until a proper translation was released.
I can't believe he pulled a "discuss a game that doesn't exist" in video review format
someone please make it real