Thanks for breaking street dates, Amazon/third worlders. You forced them to do this

Thanks for breaking street dates, Amazon/third worlders. You forced them to do this.

You forced them to do this.

Why is Anon Babble always so obsessed with victim blaming?

its nintendo's fualt for only providing 64gb cartridges

you just hate that you can now resell dowloaded games on console before you could do it on steam

dude just invent 500 gB cards out of thin air lmao

I think I'm done with console games.

Anon Babble

Nintendo fans, you mean. Nobody else has the requisite levels of mental illness to worship a company that sodomizes them at every available opportunity.

Nintendo has consoomers by the balls even more, but consoomers don't mind because they get their yummy 4k and hdr

god, gaming has gone to absolute shit

You are not a victim when you break street dates because you have an axe to grind against Nintendo (Amazon) or don't have business sense to maintain a good relationship (third world country retailers)

You don't understand the problem, it's not that they're too small it's that they are too big(aka too expensive) for smaller games. They're Goldilocks cartridges, any game that is too small won't use them, any game that's too big won't use them, and most of the games that are just right...probably also won't use them because that shit is expensive. But Cyberpunk is using one so hey, there's that.

Don't care about PCs, since I don't feel like learning to use linux, and windows went to shit years ago

Dunuvo

Switch 2 NSO shit

Every other trend that exists now, but not 15 years ago

Dude, I thing I'm dont with games made from this point onward

and marvelous and limited run, too

Forced who to do what?

I thing I'm dont with

ESL

limited run

That's kind of their gimmick.

Marvelous

That one is surprising, maybe they're banking on being one of the only games actually being on a cartridge to boost sales and it's a calculated risk. It's very obvious that most games will use the key cards though because the 64GB cartridges cost too much, only a handful of games ever used a 32GB cartridge on the Switch 1. One of those being Witcher 3 so CDPR is being consistent.

Nintendo 64: cartridges suck as a medium and are too expensive

almost 30 years later cartridges still suck as a medium and are too expensive

I genuinely don't know why they didn't just go for Switch 1 cartridge tech with PSP style mandatory installs if read speeds were an issue. I know it seems like a bother to the customer but at least then the game is on the fucking cartridge.

Because victims need to be punished for being victims.

They'd need more than 256gb of internal storage if they wanted every game to be installed onto the system. They could have done it but the Switch 2 costs $338 to manufacture and they might not make $100~ on every unit sold(outside of Japan where they lose $8) if they had a decent amount of storage space on it.

can't contextually discern that the intended word was "done"

A typo doesn't negate the face that gaming has left me and I'm sure many others behind in pursuit of flakey zoomers, troons, and robot like consoomers

It was a "problem" on PSP too. Honestly, how many games do you need on your system at once?

Nintendo is just following the standards both Microsoft and Sony have set aka your physical disc is fucking useless and the game will still need to download 50-60 GBs of data when you pop it into the console.
Physical is dead.

it's both. supplier makes only 64 gb carts and it's too fucking expensive

Nintendo did nothing wrong! It's everyone else's fault!

Sure sure.
In the end it doesn't matter whose fault it is. It's a shitty situation for third party devs. Hopefully the smaller sizes will come back at some point.

Essentially
It’ll probably happen with higher production, they’ll probably get 32gb ones within the year

The negative impact of that system is a bit greater on a handheld where the console isn't always tethered to a single spot. I'm fairly certain that the rumored PS and Xbox handhelds will be digital only like the Deck though, unless they rip off the Game Key Cart idea from Nintendo. There's no chance they use actual cartridges, those are more or less dead now.

it's not that they're too small it's that they are too big(aka too expensive) for smaller games.

The hypothetical smaller sized carts were probably more expensive if the production pipelines aren't fully up to the task
Nintendo is still doing full fledged physicals, it's only third-parties deciding if they want to go the route of key cards
But people online are being extremely autistic over physicals and muh preservation just to merely virtue-signal.

Lick those boots anon

The hypothetical smaller sized carts were probably more expensive if the production pipelines aren't fully up to the task

More expensive for Nintendo but less expensive for publishers. Not catering to publishers is what caused the exodus to Playstation 1 back in the day, but Nintendo gave the publishers the Game Key Carts as a peace offering this time so that doesn't happen again. The choices really were the Key Carts or digital only, but it's obvious that the Key Carts are there to ween people off physical and to get used to downloading their games for the next generation.

The way to look at it would be that once Sony and Microsoft go digital only next gen, third party publishers aren't going to want to pay extra to release on a Nintendo system. These license keys on a disc/cartridge right now are a stop gap until we get forcibly dragged into the all digital age.

This thread gets the "Anon Babble sucks nintendo corpo cock again!" award.

that's nintentodlers for you

buy game

download

sell later if i want it

i don't appreciate the extra download time because lol nintendo servers but i don't get the doomsday response
what's the actual issue?

nintendo asks for $16 per unit

where did you get that price?

Butthurt much?

cutiepie explains the beans
youtube.com/watch?v=1bWQcwhluGk

Americans are corporated cocksuckers.
Nintendo fans made N64, WiiU, Virtual Boy and Gamecube fail.

Dunno, the Nintendo 64 had quite good public support for what it was. The others were indeed colossal failures, tho.

Nintendo fans kept N64 and Gamecube alive
64 was objectively a shitty console

Other consoles have been doing this, like putting in a disc and then downloading the rest of the game. But nintendo users expect the game on cartridge if they're buying physical. And being a portable device that isn't always connected online plays a factor. Imagine going to gamestop with your switch, buying a game, popping it in and finding out you can't actually play it since you need to download it. Even games that had day 1 patches, you could still play them without internet.

How can CD Project Red and Marvelous can afford the carts but not bog name punlishers like Capcom, Square-Enix or Konami

can't wait til this console is blown wide open and piracy is as easy as running some bullshit hardware exploit. nintendo doesn't deserve shit

Because they're cheap asses and they're gonna learn that people care about that stuff when these game key cards stay on the shelves with low sales.

CDPR decided it's reputationally better to have lower profit margins. Sega decided they'd rather not. That simple.

good morning saars

Consolekeks are tech illiterate.

the real reason i will not be supporting the Switch 2. nitnendo being the one to stop supporting physical games is a sad day in gaming

Ive got a 2 tb sdcard that wasnt even that expensive, what's the problem?

Switch 2 expects higher read speeds than what's allowed by older SD cards which is why it only works with Express type SD cards. You can assume that cartridge read speeds would also have to match which means it's newer tech in them too.

Limited Run wouldn't use real cartridges even if they were affordable, those niggas write to CD-Rs and can't even be bothered to get fresh bootlegs for Shantae cartridges.

Lol no-one actually cares about this. They care about getting to play the games they want to play.

ewwww switch 2 cases are hideous

Literally all of their games have physical editions...

God he won so hard

Imagine going to gamestop with your switch, buying a game, popping it in and finding out you can't actually play it since you need to download it

like most sane people, i wouldn't be out with my console on the goddamn store in the 1st place
disregarding that, yeah there's the incovenience of a required internet connection in order to get the game which it fucking sucks, i agree. i like that it's treated like a cart, meaning i can resell it and whatnot, but yeah. if it's physical, it should fucking be there

They already said all of their are numbered titles will be physical, just gonna have to wait to see if they stick to their word.

download required written extremely clearly on the box

Imagine being illiterate

That single 64gb card is probably around 15 to 20$ to buy from nintendo, so if you put a 40€ game like the bravely default one, then you literally have negative profits because the vidya store is probably buying it at 25€ tops, add the middlemen and other costs and the accounting doesn't add up.

they can afford them, they dont want to pay it lol.

Limited Run lies fucking constantly so I wouldn't take them at face value.

use gamekey

it’s still downloaded in someone else’s acct

refuses to allow download despite key

game over, 600$ pissed out your ass

it’s still downloaded in someone else’s acct

retard

I wonder why people even care about this.
It's almost like you are weaponized retards for a billion dollar company and you do it for free.

Nintendo was still synonymous with video games as a whole back then, the N64 didn't completely flop because it was coasting off the success of the NES and SNES. It's still insane to think that it got outsold by the Sega Saturn in Japan though.

it’s still downloaded in someone else’s acct

I'm not sure you understand how it's supposed to work.

Sony is terrified of the Switch 2 to the point of surveying their users so they're spreading FUD all over the web.

so all physical switch games are key cards? or is this an optional choice for game companies for an extra layer of protection like denuvo? honestly, why even bother with physical if they're all going to be like this? may as well just stick to digital only and cut the price back down to $50-$60. No way a handheld port of a game or a handheld game in general is worth any more than that.

game key card blocks you path

all of the third party's are.

64 came out 1.5 years behind Saturn and PS1.
That's a huge amount of time and you're right, there was a lot of good will towards Nintendo systems and Nintendo games but by that point PS1 was running circles around it due to CD medium and being easier to develop for. Nintendo's own software support was somewhat anemic. Ocarina of Time didn't come out until 1998 and the rest was mostly carried by fucking Rare. What a blunder.

Most, but not all.

it's fucking stupid. also the fact that the first switch had this thing where if someone made their account the main account, they would have to deactivate it as the main account. so if you bought a switch used and the guy you bought it from didn't properly deactivate it, then you're basically fucked. the greed of the company just makes things worse for the consumer.

want to play game on my switcharoo
insert key card
delete last game to save up space because now you have to use your own storage which is another hidden cost
use up internet at full speed
download complete 3 hours later
ready to play game
i changed my mind i'd rather play another game
Anon Babble is laughing at me while they enjoy the new blockbuster i will never be able to play

HAHAHAHHAH PIRATE FAGGOTS GET FUCKED

if handball 17 can get cracked, then not even nintendo is safe

you're not a victim, faggot

this behavior is exclusive to nintards
they also thought nintendo shitting out a simple "new look" teaser and making everyone wait 2 months to get the actual news was due to the hecckin evil leakers!

limited run

Oh nonono, the Raidou CE they are selling for the Switch 2 comes with a game key, not a full cart.

do you think that greentexting automatically happens based on post format?

3 hours

Anon what?
Also, this is now the case for literally everything
Switch 2 will be the only console where you have the ability to not do this

because the vidya store is probably buying it at 25€ tops

I just imagined Nintendo walking into a Gamestop with a cart full of freshly produced games and the Gamestop employee offering them store credit for the batch

Anon what?

not all places have access to fast internet. that's a reasonable ammount of time for a 30GB game considering for that time your internet will not be usable by anyone else in the house.

Also, this is now the case for literally everything

not if you have the game on the disc

Switch 2 will be the only console where you have the ability to not do this

they do not have the games on the card

All the platformer holders take a 30% cut too. So it's $15-$20 on top of the 30% Nintendo already takes. It's financial suicide for smaller and cheaper games to release on those. I've got a schizo theory that the entire reason Nintendo increased the price of games to $80 is because the cartridges are so expensive.

Nice that after waving the muh preservation flag for years, tendies are finally admit they don't actually care.

nitendo bros, this is what owning your games looks like

Offline play Yes (*)

Download required No*

doesitplay.org/game/Clair Obscur: Expedition 33/ps5/Base PS5?region=ESRB&version=Standard

why faggots always assume any decision is becuase of culture and not because companies/people are fucking greedy?

You forced them to do this.

that makes no sense since Nintendo's first party games will be on the card as far as I understand it. So the next Zelda can still break street date. it only applies to third parties. and piracy can still happen once the Switch 2 gets hacked. so this is just nintendo being cheap. it has nothing to do with piracy.

Are you actually retarded?
Some games are the keys
All systems now have to install the game off the disc, no exceptions, they can’t run on the spinning disc
And yes, Nintendo is the only console that has games that run directly off it
Also majority of places can do 30gb in under an hour

It is a confluence of factors. If I'm looking at spreadsheet of retail costs from a business point of view. The expensive storage medium on my product is on is a factor I'm considering. If games leaking was the primary factor for this change why are all first party nintendo games all on card? They were the primary target of leaks.

There have been some motions to make the first sale doctrine apply to digital goods. I would not count on that happening stateside even if Europe approves it. As it stands you can still buy, resell, trade these key cards. Physical media has been straying in the field of physical based drm keys for a long time. You still had to install the game and download updates. after installing the game it effectively becomes a drm check anyways.

Are you actually retarded?

All systems now have to install the game off the disc, no exceptions, they can’t run on the spinning disc

my brother you can't call me retarded and say something completely asinine. yes i have to install the game. that's ON THE DISC I OWN. WITHOUT USING THE INTERNET FOR HOURS.

When you look at the boot process of these games the first thing the game does it a firmware and security check. It will throw a error when it fails the security check and in this case the security check is the card being inserted.

It's still insane to think that it got outsold by the Sega Saturn in Japan though.

Lack of CD audio right at the time where having CD audio enabled stuff like Panzer Dragoon Saga and Metal Gear Solid on the PS1 hurt them a lot.
Also, spending a ton on development for a cutting edge console that no one, not even themselves, really truly understood how to develop games for.

online goes down

can't play anything, even on disc

great...

The alternative would be blaming Nintendo

>Offline play Yes (*)

>can't play anything, even on disc

tendie pls.

tell me what happened with the last ps outage? could you play your games offline then? the wave of ps players bitching about it say otherwise.

It's an economies of scale gamble retard
Having to offer multiple size skus of those cards keeps prices higher because the spread is so wide. 64 was the best size Nintendo thought that the majority of games on Switch 2 will need this gen. If they force everyone to use 64 for true physical, it keeps prices lower (in theory)

The gamble in the beginning is right now 3rd Parties don't have the benefits of others to rely on since they're first out the door on the system and will do anything to cut costs cuz of pussy investors except the few exceptions of companies with a spine

for the record an average off the disc installation of a ~90 GB PS5 game is 1 hour and 20 minutes

could you play your games offline then?

yes?

the wave of ps players bitching about it say otherwise.

their games were online?

Only turbo jews will use this method. Snoytrannies will blame Nintendo though, not jew devs.

Piratefags just have to wait like everyone else before they get to pirate

This is just going to fuck over physical and collectorfags in the long run isn't it?

download complete 3 hours later

Download speeds were actually hard kneecaped on the first Switch, whereas the new proc + microSD Express on the Switch 2 should make the downloads far much faster. Like I'm expecting 15 minutes to download Yakuza Zero Director's Cut

nope, can't do that without changing a license setting that can only be changed while online.

excuse my retardation, i had it wrong.

anon, you can play a ps5 completely offline. you never have to connect it to the internet, you can install games off the disc in a lot of cases just like you would on pc back in the day. even if you have a digital copy, as long as it's downloaded then you can play it offline.

normalfags on social media were bitching because they couldn't play online games.

despite most of the launch games on keycards are less then 64 GB.

then why are you still here?

GTA VI is 300 GB and will likely require a four hour install.

Several publishers aren't keen on paying the costs for a mass scale 64GB cartridge production for their 8GB - 16GB games, doesn't matter if big publishers like Capcom won't simply because they don't want to (see it as unneeded expense), or small publishers consider an actual net loss to have a physical version of their low budget game on a 64GB cartridge.

This happened to me after a hurricane. Internet was down because the towers got destroyed. I got locked out of my digital Switch library because they couldn’t touch base with the servers.

remember when limited run released Among Us with only a digital copy of the game?

perhaps im a dumb dumb but I dont see how it should be that expensive. Like a 64GB sd card isn't that much for then an 8GB card. Is the Switch cart storage that different to SD cards that is cost that much more to manufacture?

Switch 2 doesn't use the old SD cards, it uses Express cards, so it's probably designed for higher read speeds which means more expensive media.

good?
I have a 1tb PS5 and the installation from the disc will go smoothly. thank you sony for not jewing me.

Nintendo puts out in very clear terms what the gamekey is and how it works

Retards still think that somehow it's tied to accounts and other crazy shit

So they're cheap asses

Imagine people legitimately shilling for LRG in the current year when every release they do has some kind of shitstorm behind it

I miss living next to a store that would break street date on every single release. Wouldn't advertise it by putting them on the shelves, but if you went to the counter and asked for the game they'd sell you if if they'd received the stock (and charge you £10 more for the privilege). That was like half their business model; the other half was walking a few doors down to the local Game and buying out the entire stock of any Limited Edition release likely to be in demand and then putting them straight on their own shelves for double the price.

And the issue is that nintendo asks for $16 per unit for the 64GB cart

going to need a source on that one, this is so out of the ordinary for large scale manufacturing of anything

delete last game to save up space because now you have to use your own storage which is another hidden cost

This has been the case for both the Xbox and Playstation with games wanting to take 200 gigs and even having a 1 or 2 TB drive still not enough at times with how bloated game sizes are if you play a few AAA titles.

Yes, apparently switch 2 game cards are more like little NVME drives, which helps explain the obscene pricing they have

We are literally on the downswing of them releasing Shantae cartridges that can brick DS Lite systems too! These guys sell faulty products! It's fucking astonishing anybody would go to bat for them

Wait, their cartridges brick DS lites? How does that work, do they have a power draw the DS can't handle?

We are literally on the downswing of them releasing Shantae cartridges that can brick DS Lite systems too!

fucking hell

The proprietary Switch 1 and 2 cartridges are completely different than a SD card in terms of memory, and the Switch 2 cartridges are beyond the Switch 1 cartridges as Nintendo now is making clear the console needs Express SD cards to store digital games.

Proprietary tech is always more costly to mass produce, it isn't a random DVD or Blu-Ray their respectful owners allows everyone to produce decades since their creation, bringing the production costs to pennies.

Retards still think

they're doing it on purpose to fearmonger

This has been the case for both the Xbox and Playstation with games wanting to take 200 gigs

most games are around 100 GBs and less. 1 tb can allow you to comfortably have a nice rotation of games. don't be a stubborn bitch, the same is not possible on the Switch 2. it could have been if nitendo forced publishers to publish their games on the card. Sony should also force publishers like MS to put their games on the disc unlike what they did for Doom and Indiana jones.

Some kind of power draw issue from them using shitty, old, and already-used parts. Voltage too high.

80$ for a thin gray case with no manual and no game

Bankruptendo

buy what you think is a brand-new game

turns out it its some jizz crusted pre-owned circuitboard that can fry your now hard-to-replace hardware

how does one company fuck up every time and still somehow survive

it could have been if nitendo forced publishers to publish their games on the card. Sony should also force publishers like MS to put their games on the disc unlike what they did for Doom and Indiana jones.

that's one way to piss off your partners and sabotage your third party lineup, especially when shit like capcom has had most of their sales in digital last year

People are claiming it's from the Arc systems leak. Same with the 64 gig carts. I'm too lazy to look through the leak myself.

pirates are victims

Anon Babble? Are you feeling okay?

Do you want to tell us what exactly they're victims of?

the cases are horrendous full of text and a massive logo, wtf

fuck, i bought one of these... Is it safe on gamecube gameboy player?

when the victim is a multibillion dollar company that lobbies laws to be changed so they can make more money I dont care about the victim. Its like using Hitler for suicide awareness

I have to agree with this.
Before they had 2GB, 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB cards and nobody bought the 64GB cards. Now every game needs to waste space for 64GB? Ridiculous.

So they're pretending to be retarded? got it

Varied reports about whether it's fine on ANY kind of hardware or not. Would probably just play the ROM and keep the cartridge as a collector's item. The game reports itself as Crouching Tiger: Hidden Dragon to ROM dumpers and other cartridge-read hardware, funny enough

wow, its amazing that I got get repo carts that worked perfectly fine on ebay yet LRG cant get one working...

They just don't care, they're not a high-brow company and they've always had horrible track records on actually delivering. Sometimes failing to deliver preorders to people for so long that the game hits normal street date and it's easier to just cancel and buy it normally.

write-once flash memory is generally not prone to electron leaking

They're not using WORM or MO-ROM though, they're using cheap NAND flash chips with the internal write-protection register hardwired.
This means if it isn't powered every 3-5 years they WILL experience electron leakage.

because CP2077 fits on 64GB without much excess space, whereas SE's titles are all 8-12GB and there is huge amounts of wasted space.

I guarantee someone mistranslated something

I bet our reddit buddies will find it then, since we're all too lazy to check and learn Japanese

Yes. The outrage is because people think Nintendo can slice a 64GB cart into 4 little pieces to get 16GB carts. If they could, they would've, but it's not up to Nintendo, it's up to Samsung and Macronix. Macronix makes the carts and Samsung is the one making the tech behind Switch 2's carts which is presumably 3D V-NAND. 32GB, 16GB, 8GB literally do not exist and would probably cost way more to shift production rather than just producing 64GB and hoping they get cheaper to produce thanks to economies of scale.

marvelous also has a huge amount of space left over with their games, too.

LRG will cut any and all corners. They always look to make shit as cheap as possible and sale as high as possible. One of my biggest buyers remorse was the bug fables collectors edition they made. The diorama was made of the cheapest cardboard. The character cutouts dont fit into the slots properly. Meanwhile they made it look like it was plastic on the listing.
Not to mention they (allegedly) their sale out of print games on ebay at high prices and even shill buy em to make em seem more high demand then they actually are
Ya. I wont lie I bought that too

This is just part of their console cycle. This is the console where it's borderline impossible to pirate things that will sell horribly. The next console will have fewer restrictions and be a smash hit.

bros should I migrate to digital only? the future is not looking good for physical

All the games worth buying (the first party ones) on the switch 2 will be completely physical.

Do whatever you want to do, anon. Digital media hate is a meme anyways.

because not everyone is retarded like you

Do normies even give a shit about the game key cards controversy? Seems like it's only terminally online people who are upset

Physical is a meme
I buy digital games with the expectation that I won't have them forever. I see it as spending X amount of money for X amount of perceived enjoyment.
After I get my money's worth I don't care what happens to the game.
It makes me more picky and wait for sales

???

Damn I ordered their sigma star saga dx.

That's the thing, anon. No one cares about game key cards and you know why? because every other company have already done it for decades. Normies have gotten used to putting a game in console and wait for the game to install and needing to download the latest patch

marvelous is charging full price for a game that shouldn't be full price. it'd probably be $20 cheaper if it wasn't on cart.

It's the same price on pc and other platforms.

16 dollars

I really fucking doubt that, but if true, then yeah there's absolutely no way anyone would use that thing.

Yeah, sure. Anything else I can do to make your dumb paynigger experience any worse?

if true, then yeah there's absolutely no way anyone would use that thing.

well thats exactly what happened. The only launch game released on a non-key cart is mario kart world

And the issue is that nintendo asks for $16 per unit for the 64GB carts, which is extremely expensive comparatively.

It's probably more like a dollar per cart.

Why are tendie fags so upset about an additional step in the age of Steam and 100+ Mbit internet bandwidth? Not to mention that SD cards are cheap and you can even store the download on an HDD for later use if you want.

Bitching about the price of the Switch 2 does make some sense, but bitching about game key cards does not.

Tendies aren't the ones bitching about the game key cards though

They're literally the only ones bitching about it. The age of physical is dead you tendie nigger

I have a 500gb card in my tablet, costed around 30 bucks

SD cards are cheap

The Switch 2 also has 256GB of internal memory. You probably wouldn't even need an additional SD card to play your favorite games.

This bitching doesn't really make any sense. Downloading the game to your console is not the end of the world.

Is it an express sd card?

Wut?

You only need a UHS-I microSD card for the Switch 2. A 512GB model costs 30 bucks.

I dunno, I don't care, it's just for scanned manga
litteraly not my problem if jewtendo want to force a new useless standard

Then why fuck are you talking?

No, why are YOU talking and defending jewtendo ?

Who the fuck is defending Nintendo here?

you

Right because the people that keep pushing this "Nintendo is killing physical media" narrative are tendies. I was told this same fanbase has cultist behavior and buys every nintendo product

Retards still haven't understood that the problem with game key cards is that they turn the Switch 2 into an almost exclusively digital console, when you have a measly 256GB of storage memory.
You see, 256GB is NOTHING when you're going to consume digital games, and believe me (I have a gaymer laptop with only 500GB), running out of space for games is a huge inconvenience on a device dedicated to games. It really does ruin the experience.
The Switch 2 could get by with just 256GB if you could get around the problem by buying physical games and your system accessed the content directly on its SD Card express. But that won't be the case for the vast majority of games, if we take the information available in Japan into account.
For those who can't imagine a future situation, just pay attention because in about 6 months' time you're going to see a lot of people considering the Switch 2 experience terrible, just as the first retards start having storage-related problems.

I was told this same fanbase has cultist behavior and buys every nintendo product

That's the Sony fanbase you fucking moron.

256GB is NOTHING when you're going to consume digital games, and believe me (I have a gaymer laptop with only 500GB)

Not to burst your bubble but pc has the largest file sizes of any platform, even larger than PlayStation by a significant amount, while Nintendo has had the smallest.
Saying

it's not enough for pc!

Isn't really relevant.

All of Nintendo games are on cartridge, retard.
How are you a victim for pirating a game? Fucking Christ, get over yourself, you baby

now that the switch supposedly can do 4K, expect devs to just shove all the uncompressed assets into the switch version without giving a single fuck anymore

Not to burst your bubble but pc has the largest file sizes of any platform

Citation needed.

No need, it's all upscaled from 540p.

Anon, the Switch 2 will receive games like Yakuza 0, Elden Ring, Street Fighter 6, among others. These games are all 50GB+, regardless of platform.
On Steam, Elden Ring requires 60GB of space. On PS5, 65GB of space. This is the reality of modern gaming, you won't escape it unless the Switch 2 versions come with compressed audio and textures, which I highly doubt.
256GB is nothing. For you fags Switch 2 buyers, trust me, get the extra 1TB SD card without thinking twice if you don't want to have your fun ruined after a few months and a few games in your possession.
The 512 GB card will help a lot, but it won't be enough for the long term.

Biggest Switch cartridge was 32GB. This is a new cartridge with much faster read speed.
In the first place we don't even know if Macronix would be willing to make other capacities.
The main point is that producing a lot of the 64GB cartridges will make them cheaper (Nintendo's own games will contribute to that immensely).
AA publisher like Marvelous is putting all of their games on carts. If they can, so could 99% of other 3rd parties.

Citation needed.

Just check the file sizes? Elden Ring for example is 60gb on pc while it's 45 on ps4 and 5.

PC has "the largest files sizes of any platform" because of one soulsshit?

Wrong. Multiple native 4K games got announced at the Direct alone and it isn't even out yet

Source: your ass.

256GB is NOTHING when you're going to consume digital games, and believe me (I have a gaymer laptop with only 500GB), running out of space for games is a huge inconvenience on a device dedicated to games. It really does ruin the experience.

You're forgetting Switch games are compressed as hell. You can fit like 10 or more games in there if you don't want to pay for the SD card.

doom eternal on pc is 50-70, while switch js 17-19

But you have to install 15GB of patches afterwards, which by the way is total torture on the Playstation because for some reason Sony refuses to allow people to download files at a speed acceptable for the 21st century.

Yes, a 140p version should be smaller. Compare to the real versions of the games or don't post.

Yakuza 0

24gb on pc
22 on ps4

Elden Ring,

Street Fighter 6

60 on pc
55gb on ps5
It's consistent across all games let's look at neo TWEWY for instance to get a switch version in there too.
6.8gb on switch
7.9gb on ps5
15gb on pc

Do you not play games on pc? Everyone knows this.

NTA but what does that have to do with anything? The only system you're going to get no or less patches on is the switch version because it's a port.

You're forgetting Switch games are compressed as hell.

Switch 2 is a new reality. According to the Chinese youtuber, it is 7x more powerful than the Switch 1 when docked.

waaaaaah!

everything sucks!

waaaaaah!

Well mister second coming of baked bread, are you gonna get those little fuck boy balls up and make something yourself other than a shitsmear in your little baby boy panties? Must suck being 22 and having a dick comparable to a toddler, but it fits whiny sluts like you.

finally someone with a brain

someone with a brain

btfo'd immediately.

fucking retard, SD cards of 1TB+ have been commonplace for about a decade now, if not more

enjoy your digital only future then retard

I got this from IGN, I don't know if it's 100% confirmed, but SF6 will require 50GB of space (even if you buy the physical game).
That's 20% of all the memory available on Switch 2.
As I said in another post, the extra 1TB SD Express is essential, in my opinion. However, maybe buying the 512GB one is a solution for now if you can have several different extra SD Cards in the same device, and you don't mind swapping them around depending on the game you're playing. I don't know if it's possible to do this, however, I've never tested something like this on the Switch 1 to see what happens.

Which console sells has been selling them as commonplace for their games for over a decade?

Idk, I'm not a console pleb
That being said, at a glance on my local electronics retailer, I see 1TB SDs on sale for about 50 eur. If you're buying in bulk from a producer like snoy or tendie would do, it's far cheaper

Anon, those are normal SD cards.

Nintendo is a cult and their fans defend them to the death

its nintendo's fualt for only providing 64gb cartridges

Before they had 2GB, 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB cards and nobody bought the 64GB cards

Take your meds, tranny

its nintendo's fualt

Nintendo's fault

GUYS IT'S NINTENDOS FAULT

FUCK YOU NINTENDO IT'S YOUR FAULT

What the fuck?
Octopath wasn't a download code game.
Neither was nier what the fuck is this?

Nigga just use Amazon i'm not going to spoon feed you

It's all Nintendo's fault and totally not the fault of greedy billion-dollar publishers like Capcom and Square Enix

FUCK YOU NINTENDO THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT

Stop it, Nintendo! Don't give publishers the choice to release their games on a variety of different-sized game cards! IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT

NINTENDO YOU SUBHUMAN GREEDY SCUM STOP IT ALREADY

Good grief! Nintendo's greed knows no limits at this point
All your fault Nintendo

Nintendo, you greedy scum! How can you not provide any game cards smaller than 64GB for the Nintendo Switch 1? Oh, you did? Well... never mind because it's your fault anyway

How Games Leak

WE ALL HATE NINTENDO

uh oh melty

meds
tranny
take
em

Also Nintendos fault

The big red N is a symbol of boundless greed

guys nintendo's fau-ACK! ACK!

the game key cards are gonna be great in 15-20 years when Nintendo switches off the Switch 2 servers.

So if I give a key card to someone, and they put it into their switch, does that let them download and play the game, or is it a a digital key where it's locked to one account?

the american tranny realised that the US receives favourable treatment

You must feel really good about yourself right now

I'm pretty sure i had need for sneed and I don't think it was a download here in the states.

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M GOING INSANE STOP IT WITH YOUR 64GB GAME CARD GREED

So wait a second, after I download the game I can use this baby on another S2 without having to download the game again, or is it just a cartridge that could be replaced by a code?

The EU should ban this practice because it's just a completely unnecessary waste of plastic. If you want games to just be codes then you could do the scratch off cards that you have to activate at the register and save the ocean thousands of tons of plastic waste

Nah, I'm a bong. You can go fuck yourself.

Shit, forgot my image

You first you subhuman tranny

When has nintendo ever shut down their download servers?

Kys you subhuman tranny

You already posted that and he Btfo'd you.

what a bad case and and art bros this is pathetic

You must feel really good about yourself right now

The EU has banned plastic straws and loose caps, but has not protected its inhabitants from dishonest business practices

Classic EU cuck shit

Pretty sure this is simply just Nintendo copying their competition and testing what levels of consoomer-herding they can get away with, like $80+ games (which had jack shit to do with muh tariffs), patent sharking competition over basic game mechanics and outright console-bricking targeted users.

It's not a digital key and you don't even need a nintendo account for it, it's just the license that allows you to boot up the game so yes you can lend it or sell it.

All first party Nintendo games are on game card you subhuman tranny this game key card is for greedy subhumans like Square, Capcom and EA

Another generation of third parties whining that people only buy Nintendo games despite only releasing poorly optimized ports of games that are years old on cartridges with no games loaded onto them so you need to go online and download a 100gb file before playing them

Why would anyone buy one of these over just purchasing the digital version? I don't get it. Is this not just a digital copy with extra steps? Is there even a market for this or is it just to trick physicalfags of an even lower IQ than the average physicalfag?

Physicalfags like collecting boxes

It seems like third party publishers cried to Nintendo that switch 2 carts were too expensive so this is the bone Nintendo threw them
If people actually buy them or not remains to be seen, I definitely wont be buying anything that comes "on" a key card

Well, Steam has been proving that you can trick retards into buying air since 2003 and own nothing

Nintendo had all the power to reject codes in boxes, they just chose to let it fester

It seems like third party publishers cried to Nintendo that switch 2 carts were too expensive

I have just posted more than 20 games where the size of the game is less than 10 GB, and yet the game publishers refuse to put their games on a physical game cart despite the fact that you have the possibility to put the whole game on one game card, this is just pure greed and nothing else you clown

If I had to store physical copies of my 800 Steam games I'd quit gaming. This is buying air AND sacrificing your storage room/closet/cage to do it.

You are the problem

DONT MESS WITH NINTENDO!!

I literally have a 1tb sd card on my hacked switch playing games, there's no excuse

Steam trannies can't stand the fact that others own their games

This is not the regular version of Octopath. It's a physical game.

Yeah true, digital games in retail stores should really just be cardboard with a scratcher code.

Plenty of the games anon posted here DO have physical editions though...?

By the way is Sony still getting sued for removing those?

This is not the regular version

Yes, it is the 'regular version' because this is the only version that is still being sold, you braindead moron

No. I'm more intelligent than you, older than you, and understand the value of not compromising unnecessarily on storage space. You have less and less of it available as you and your family ages and acquires more crap.

Th-then cull the unnecessary crap!

Physical games are among the most unnecessary of the crap, perhaps only surpassed by VHS tapes and unworn clothes. There is no boogeyman trying to steal your digital games anon. I am not the problem, you are just a paranoid schizo.

So you're admitting it's not Nintendo's fault, but rather the publisher's, because they refuse to simply put the whole game on a game card. So what is the reason for your opposition to my position? It's not Nintendos fault

Ok? You can still get the regular complete physical version of Octopath though, the one most people have.

tl;dr
seethe harder tranny

bots don't have morals nor a pulse

No, you can't. Why else would they release a CODE IN BOX (CIB) version? The only way to get a physical game card is to buy it second-hand now

Nintendo is definitely partially to blame because they could've done things to make regular physical cartridges more enticing, but obviously the choice in the end lies with the publisher yeah? I never argued against that.
OP of the thread didn't even argue that, he posted completely different ragebait targeted at pirates and thirdies. Why the fuck are you freaking out dude?

physicalfags can't read three lines in two seconds

That tracks

im looking at a new physical version rn
its on sale, even

legit the worst thing nintendo has ever done.
i like owning my games.

Nintendo is definitely partially to blame

Why give one reason? Don't say it's only because a 64 GB game card is available; the same publishers refused to release their 2 GB games on the regular Nintendo Switch when these sizes were available

Ok tranny
All first party Nintendo games are on game card you subhuman moron

likes owning games

buys them on ps5 where they cam disable your console and games

keep seething steam schizo

It's probably more like a dollar per cart.

Proprietary cartridges with new tech will never be one measly dollar. When the Switch 1 released 7 years ago it also had its crazy expensive large capacity cartridge of 32GB and that singlehandedly made L.A Noire cost 50 dollars compared to the 40 dollars PS4 and Xbone ports.

What the fuck are you yapping about the game is not even on the card

They do all this yet people still buy into it. Thought we were supposed to vote with our wallet?

Keep having dedicated plastic space because you have no family, loser

Because Steam is showing that you can force anything onto consumers: DRM, third-party launchers, and paying 80 dollars for air. The same approach is being tried by the consoles

Nintendo only provides 64gb carts

Source on this?

I made it up

where they cam disable your console

new cope?

The game did come partially on the cartridge, the aforementioned 32GB one, the internet connection is for the additional download. Don't talk about shit you have no idea about.

gamerant.com/la-noire-nintendo-switch-price/

NTA but it's true that if you don't own the original PS5 but rather the PS5 Slim variation with the detachable disc drive, you don't own anything, since you need an internet connection to make the disc drive work

Bootlicking faggot

street date

I don't speak tendrone, what the fuck is that? What your mom does with her customers?

Arc System Works hack leak, it contains their plans for a potential new Switch 2 exclusive and details the dealings on how game cartridges SKUs work with tne Switch 2.

Imagine going to gamestop with your switch, buying a game, popping it in and finding out you can't actually play it since you need to download it.

no wonder everyone laugh at mutts, they can't be THAT retarded lmao.

nintendo.com/au/games/nintendo-switch/la-noire/

The game did come partially on the cartridge, the aforementioned 32GB one

You are completely clueless when it comes to this subject. You should take your medication for your own good. You're just embarrassing yourself. The entire game would have been stored on the 32GB game card if they had used it

since you need an internet connection to make the disc drive work

classic dishonest Anon Babble post. you just need to activate it. it's a negative thing but you still own your games and no one will ban your console.

amazon.de/-/en/2523740-Octopath-Traveler-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B075MFMVVL

retard

you just need to activate it

Yes, now format your PS5 hard drive to see if the disc drive still works

en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63227/~/announcement-of-discontinuation-of-online-services-for-nintendo-3ds-and-wii-u

Great! Now explain why Capcom didn't use the 2GB game card when they released their collection of classic NES Mega Man games for the Nintendo Switch 1, but rather made you download the games

they said

download servers

you can still download shit on 3ds and the like.

Nah it's more American fat-fingered mobile posting energy than foreigner ESL posting.

Use google next time you absolute fucking retard

yes i have to install the game.

That’s all you had to say anon, the rest is just cope
Downloading and installing take the same time for most people
If you’re worried about 20 years into the future that’s fine, but I guarantee you have downloaded romsets for older games

Do you think a modern attempt at something like the UMD could work better?

I'm unbothered cause I can emulate every single shitendo shitch on my rtx 3090 that I got for 200 dollars last Christmas. Will be the same for shitch 2 seeing that it has a 1050 ti jej

Proprietary cartridges with new tech will never be one measly dollar.

Buying in bulk significantly reduces the price anon but you have to remember that it all adds up and it looks especially bad when disc has always been pennies by comparison.

How delusional are you? It's not the format; it's the publishers greed that means they just don't want you to own your games. Despite the low production cost, why isn't the latest Doom game complete on Blu-ray? BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE THEY WANT YOU TO OWN NOTHING

you faggots should have put your foot down on digital forever ago. you get what you deserve

Because they install functionally they're the same as digital games so Sony can disable your games in the same way.

Pirates are victims now

Why not just get a job if you want to afford shit?

Third World guy here
Why are you crying, faggot?

Get warned multiple times not to do stupid shit

Intelligence way too low understand the concept of being punished for doing stupid shit

Do stupid shit, get punish

IAM A "VICTIM"

Victim blaming my ass, Brazil and Southern America in general are on some ignorant bullshit thats immeasurable. Like logic doesn't float down there.

For the foreseeable future, it is still possible to download update data and redownload purchased software and downloadable content from Nintendo eShop.

Did you even read the link you posted?

nah
corps just want whatever is cheaper or makes them more money

You are not a victim when you break street dates

1 (one) singular guy pirates a game and every customer that buys physical releases gets fucked, are you too retarded to understand that the ones that pirates aren't the ones that suffer from this?

You know umds are discs, right?
That means they're horrendously cheap.

do you think a worse, more expensive format would work better

lol?

frogretard

worst dumbest posts

You need a 500gb sd card anyways to install all the game data of multiple games, so what makes nintendo so cheap and lazy not to have bigger game cards?

So where's the proof it bricks your system. How the fuck can you brick a system that doesn't have an OS you can mess with.

so what makes nintendo so cheap and lazy not to have bigger game cards?

Technology and costs

so let me get this straight: you both have to download the game AND use your own SD card.

you can do the latter if you want to

Do people still lend each other physical games? My friends and I did that as kids

This isn't the Vita, anon. It actually does have usable internal storage

why is every other post in this thread in egregiously broken english? I see ESL shit every day but there is an extremely high concentration of it in this thread and I have no idea why

What are they victims of? Care to answer?

Because you're in an anti-nintendo thread

It actually does have usable internal storage

256 GB

in an anti-nintendo thread

MY GOOD BROTHER THIS IS THE MOST DISGUSTING THING NINTENDO HAS EVER FUCKING DONE. AND YOU STILL DEFEND THEM. why do you like corporate boot so much?

SD card is not really needed unless you're some autist that wants every single game in the library installed

Who said I'm defending nintendo?

every single game

256 GB

bruh

I like to say dongle.

this guy said it

Amazon

Third world

Anon...

You forced them to do this.

Nintendo fans made N64, WiiU, Virtual Boy and Gamecube fail.

if I have to read any more retardation in this thread I might go into mental septic shock

The other thread with the retarded knife analogy is worse lol

Amazon is literally third world

These games key cards are a literal scam. It's all of the downsides of physical media and all of the downsides of digital media in one package. Only a total retard would buy these, which is great news for Nintendo.

As opposed to zero.

You can't even boot FFXVI or Expedition 33 without connecting to the internet the first time you put it in. Requires a small patch to not crash at start-up and dozens of patches to be stable. Plus they are bound to your console which can be disabled by Sony at any time. You can't play those anywhere else. It isn't any different from a digital game, you're just generating more waste for a landfill. You don't own any of those things. Piracy is king.

What? That’s bullshit. I’ve played FF16 completely offline and never downloaded the day one patch. The database on Does it play backs this up. Don’t lie. I know you’re trying to defend Nintendo really hard right now by saying “see, the other guys do it too”, but that’s just false.

Nintendo stopped shouldering the price of cartridges for publishers with Switch since they were on red numbers but they still had multiple sizes. Publishers solution to full price of cartridges (the external coating was more expensive than the internal work) was using small sized ones + digital downloads or just download codes in boxes. Nintendo then changes model for switch 2, they still do not shoulder full price but instead of offering different sizes they make a standard size since it is easier on the production lines, it is cheap enough to mass produce and removes the issue of partial game in most cases but fix the digital model by now making it offer a license instead of a single case of download code. Somehow having the license is worse than not having it.

That's the part I don't get, why is people mad that game keys are a thing when the lending/selling process is streamlined compared to before. The unified production line for 64GB cartridges shouldn't be that much expensive for publishers to afford, they also just want to save money that's all.

bound to your console

False. If you stick the disc in a different console it will still install and play while offline. What a dishonest little Jew.

Reminder Doom The Dark Ages is 85 gb and fits on a PS5 disc, yet there is no real physical version and the disc is just a key for no fucking reason than to push digital. It's over physical bros. This is probably the last generation.

everyone I don’t like is a tendie

At least Doom the Dark Ages sucks absolute balls, so we won't be missing out on something good

The internet is not just North America, UK, and Australia, who knew?

shit is charting high, too and there's barely any pushback
normies have conceded, copers are coping, its so over

NTA but apparently there was an update that caused issues with FF16.
gamesradar.com/games/final-fantasy/as-final-fantasy-16-players-face-crashes-mysterious-black-squares-and-a-flood-of-eternal-darkness-after-the-recent-ps5-system-update-square-enix-and-sony-vow-to-find-a-cure/
He is being retarded about this part though

Plus they are bound to your console which can be disabled by Sony at any time.

It's not that they're "bound" to the console but Sony's drm can block physical games from being played. They're also the only ones with drm like that.

and there's barely any pushback

When has there ever been pushback for non-Nintendo shit?

Isn't it funny how there's zero outrage for doom while terminally online people hasn't stopped seething over game key cards since the april 2 direct

The worst thing Nintendo did was take 6 years to release a glorified DLC for Breath of the Wild and call it a sequel, and sell it for $70.

All this other shit doesn't matter. $450 is only $50 more than what everyone was predicting, but the console is also a bit better than expected. Games will still be $70, which is currently the industry standard, the current $80 games are exceptions due to DLC and Mario Kart is $50 with the bundle. First party games all have real physical cartridges, game key cards are 3rd parties being Jews, and even games like Doom The Dark Ages are doing this shit and this might be the last generation with true physical games for every platform. 99% of people bitching the Switch bricking thing are people that won't ever mod or pirate their system anyway, and the ones that will pirate don't need internet connection anyway.

I don't give a fuck about 3rd worlder problems, I care about Nintendo games going to shit.

i kinda get it, but at the same time it is overblown