Why was this game hated? It's overwatch 1 but with better graphics. I genuinely don't understand. And it's also free...

They remastered it, i don't see the problem.
So your skins and stuff didn't carry over? Were tanks not as strong in ow1

Because of hero switching which has plagued this game since release

So your skins and stuff didn't carry over?

No, you got a small amount of credits for the new microtransaction scheme and all your shit was taken away.

Were tanks not as strong in OW1

No, because OW1 was 6v6 with 2-2-2 not 5v5 with 1-2-2.

This is all on top of OW1 already bleeding users badly before the change and OW2 promising robust PvE and never delivering

Were tanks not as strong in ow1

Only sigma really, I remember he had the least amount of changes coming into OW1 because his existence already broke the tank role and some tanks just don't work in 5v5, d.va being the best example

Doubt this is being asked in good faith but just in case:

Blizzard continually patches and changes OW1 to align with OW League

game starts shedding players since this made the game less fun

Blizzard starts showing off OW2 vision - co-op missions, persistent world, upgradeable characters, story-based structure

people start to get hyped

Blizzard releases OW2 multiplayer as a means to keep funding their OW2 vision

it's full of monetization, battle passes, etc. - no more loot boxes

old costumes cost $30 now

get everyone to buy into OW2 with the promise that they'll start releasing story content in the next year - i.e. this is just temporary

close down OW1 because "not needed anymore"

instantly cancel OW2 story content because "it's too hard to develop"

It was a greedy rug pull. Also the new 5v5 sucks.

On launch OW2 was way shittier. It’s better than OW1 nowadays but there is no way to reverse the first impressions of millions of people.

the OW1 had some changes that some people disliked, like only mono heroes (no team full of torbs). Even with new hero being more or less cancerous, OWL came and with it OWl balancing
League was a forced esports, where extreme majority of players were from korea, even from the same school. The first winner playing for London after winning, left to celebrate at seul. It was fake shit with no organic community behind it
With OWL came OWL balancing, so instead of having full everywhere, even in comp, each character was balanced around OWL performance. let's nerf genji, hanzo, widow etc. screw it that 90% of players can't paly them on that level and half of playebase cant aim with widow. They made easily accesible heroes something that required a very high skill ceiling to enjoy
With OWl balancing came competetive meta, let's say GOATS, that was made avaible by introducing briggete and using 3 tanks so you were tankty as fuck. Previous meta was rish meta (because i forgot the name) where you used very mobile heroes to jump on enemy team and kill 1-2 peopl, because spawning as attacker for point was faster(because point was closer) than for defender to res and come back, so next fight you were 6 vs 4
but back to OWL. They started introducing annoying stun/barrier heroes to balance OWL, so 90% of normal game started to be a shitshow of barrier spams or hard cc. All of that because shitzard wanted his esports. Because of all trained korena players, none really watched that shit. There was no community pressure for competetive. I mean, it was growing but shitzard force-feed it to become esports. There was no community figures, someone that you would cheer on. Just a fucking random soulless bugmen that were trained from birth to be a esport machine. You could spa there a bunch fo randoms from europe and game would be instantly more fun due to them acting more natural
1/2

The game is genuine dogshit. There's a reason e-sports never took off and it's because the game is fundamentally bad

DPS meta has been PLAY SOLDIER every game for literally a decade because he's so absurdly strong compared to every other DPS

spend 3 minutes breaking through enemy defence with pressure to kill someone

"LOL NO XD MERCY'S HERE TO CLICK A BUTTON AND NULLIFY THAT! TRANNY HEALER POWER FANTASIES FTW!"

every new healer is stronger than the majority of DPS at dealing damage to appease the tranny healers

This game is such dogshit doodoo even compared to other shitty MOBAs like LoL. It's only fun to play once every 2 years, play a few Genji games then remember how dogshit the game is, quit out and fap to the porn instead.

2/2
game was dying, they at one point killed off OWL because there was no sustaining it. The ow was promising a breath of fresh air and long awaited story mode since shitzard had a fucking TEAM OF 50 PEOPLE DEDICATED TO LORE/STORY ALONE. Where's the story now? Also the "we cant make story mode' was just a huge lie and everyone knowing their shit knows it too. The reason was that sotry doesn't bring revenue. But splitting it as paid dlc will. it's all about getting as much 'reve" as possible, so ow2 was transformed to your live-service shit with battlepass and since then remained soulless. Even the classic mode introduced is just a well dressed, but dead body, since it's emulating old patches, not actually introducing them, so characters like doomfist are bugged to hell
t. someone who played from the start, and even Anon Babble loved it for 2 years straight. I think after ow any hope for shitzard not being a scumbag straight up ea clone vanished

release new game mode

soldier, mercy, juno, dva are strongest picks JUST LIKE the normal game

The game is FUNDAMENTALLY bad

Continued refusal to confirm Roadhog is a homosexual. Give gamers what they want.

Best aiming in an FPS mixed with bad everything else. Every type of aiming is well represented.

The only reason Blizz even put out an update disguised as Overwatch 2 is because they had made a legally binding promise not to take people's cosmetics away or use direct microtransactions in Overwatch 1

Overwatch 2 did both of those things

So esports ruined it

esports + extremely slow updates and balance patches and recycled events because they were working on pve

Why was this game hated? It's overwatch 1

you answered yourself

yes
sp has nothing to do wit it, patch cycles were based on OWL to avoid introducing too many balance patches to give some team advantage, same with introducing new hero

dva is by far the worst tank in the new mode. she can’t do shit to rein, zarya, or orisa, and even jq is kind of a losing match up.

The graphical and visual changes made performance take a hit and removed the aesthetic charm of the original. It also adjusted audio creating a more "realistic" sound but muddling it, making it harder to discern steps and other sound cues. This along with new effects blending team colors, the new lighting, and new harsh sounds, created a very jarring experience.

Monetization changes meant that skins were no longer earnable for free. On the OW2 release you needed the battle pass to gain early access to new heroes, in a sense creating a temporary pay to win situation.

The shift from 6v6 to 5v5, which was divided the community from the get-go during tests, made balancing very difficult. It require many rebalancing efforts like reworks, new features to make up flaws like passives that overcomplicated the game. Some heroes even went through several iterations. They also try to keep 5v5 due to the spaghetti code of an engine rework not performing well.

There was little benefit to players who purchased OW1 already. Going F2P meant little. In some sense may have felt some loss. Some believing it allowed accessibility to cheaters, throwers and toxic players who could just make new accounts.

Inclusion of new characters and changing lore based on identity politics. Self-explanatory but some people didn't like that.

Company behavior with regards to sexual harassment, lawsuits, CEO-greed, firings and other non-OW related screw ups, made a lot of people dislike the studio/company. Actions were taken to address some of those issues by banning, firing, name changing to separate from some allegations. Some people find those actions to be more in the vain of identity politics and/or virtue signaling.

Poor pay and support for E-sports player. No PVE and features promised after years of no content left a sour taste in player's mouths.

Many of these things have been changed and some improved, but some people still have gripes and I don't blame them.

damage dealer is the most popular role by a huge margin in every game possible

nerf damage dealers so much that they lose all their appeal and fun factor

game loses a massive amount of players

woah i wonder how that happened?? we should probably just buff healers again

Only brown people hate Overwatch. They'll come up with a hundred excuses as to why, but the real reason is that they just suck ass at it. It's the same reason they hate mobas.

They purposely keep the healers as the strongest broken role to appease the LGBT trannies who all want a healer power fantasy. Juno is a better DPS than every DPS except Soldier and can still throw out heals and MS buffs

I recall briefly watching the Number 1 Genji streamer and he was non-stop complaining about how dogshit the game is because healers are absurdly broken. Then go to any healers stream and they're just running around controlling the entire game having the time of their life. Every other role and character exists to give healers their power fantasy. That's all this game exists for.

they're the ones buying skins

I hated it because they turned a game I bought into free to play shit with battle passes. It was never a new game but they claimed it was to avoid lawsuits.

Why was this game hated?

downgraded to 5v5

paid characters instead of all free

no more lootboxes, pay up for everything

all your shit was taken away.

no it fucking wasn't you retard. the skins you have in your inventory are still there. they didn't wipe everyone's account clean.

forced to download OW2

skins gone

given credits instead

cool story bro

All they had to do was make everyone move a bit faster so it becomes more skill based.

Overwatch had many enormous design flaws, the two most notable of which were the game-ruiningly overpowered shields (Rein/Orisa/Sigma/Brig) and the severely chokepoint heavy map design that exacerbated that original problem.

Overwatch 2 caused OW1 development to stop which meant players could not be constantly wowed long enough with fresh content to avoid getting frustrated and bored with the flaws inherent to OW, then OW2 pulled the rug by not even being the "sequel" that was promised, so all Overwatch players got screwed for nothing

it's under your blizzard account so unless you made a whole new account all of your shit is still there. I have all the skins I got from ow1 when I got ow2

Except for a shitload of people the transfer/merge just didn't fucking work
hence the "refunded" tokens

NO. Hes the resident ugly bastard. He impregnates Juno and Mercy with his gunt dick

they removed the LFG browser and now i have to jerk off alone

overpowered shields

This is what killed the game for me.
There was a decent variety of acceptable comps in the early days but as time went on shields and heals just kept power-creeping until the only way to play was to smash two shield-focused deathballs together.

That's why I've been enjoying Rivals so much, damage is high and shield are weak so shield/poke deathballs CAN work but brawl and dive are also both viable.

Good breakdown.

As someone that plays still, the main criticisms are

Format change from 6v6 to 5v5

This made the Tank role unbearable and the metas revolve around which one was the most broken/willing to survive getting blasted by every single cooldown possible, and made DPS a lot less fun with having one fat fuck able to soak up all your damage

The false advertising for the replayable PVE content

The whole pitch of the game was originally this, and they cockteased a lot of people on this concept for years when they had internally canned it after Jeff Kaplan left, very scummy of them

Shop changes

Loot boxes are still shit but you were earning them effortlessly just by playing and they didn't have retardedly priced bundles for the majority of the lifespan of the game, and that changed when OW became f2p and embraced expensive cosmetic bundles + seasonal battle passes. Small note to mention the consistent reskinned cosmetics they have the gall to charge prices for too.

A lot of the newer characters introduced are varying in quality

Characters like Kiriko, Mauga, Illari, and Sojourn are unhealthy for the game for being either broken or retard friendly, while ones like Junker Queen, Rammatra, Freja, Hazard, and Juno are much more in the right direction but still have their issues.

You kept all of your shit from OW1. It's basically a giant shit update, nothing got wiped.

And it's also free, ow1 was paid wasn't it? Why did everyone sperg out at that time? Was it because streamers opinions?

They turned my paid game into glorified fortnite gachaslop. Why would I be happy that they took the game I paid for, attached a shittier monetization system to it and rip out any semblance of a way to unlock what you want without paying into it. Prevously in OW1 you could get all event shit for free.

Speaking of Event shit, the ONLY events OW2 gets now are paid-only crossover events with stupidly overpriced skins. No thanks, not paying to be your walking billboard.

I want to BE Mercy!

Why was this game hated?

not updating it for 2 years, just so for a 5vs5 slop update (no long awaited promised co-up)
and yes, 5vs5 is so bad according to the old players... who used to be a majority

I really REALLY want to talk shit about every "new" skin after ram or kiriko released
but... this game is not worth my anger

Overwatch 1 didn't have any tranny characters.

It was WAAAAAAY to early to be calling it a sequel.

Even with the perks and stadium shit they added recently, it barely qualifies as overwatch 1.5.

I never cared about character backstory, you have an issue if you do since this game has no singleplayer content.
Just be like this guy (i wanna FUCK Mercy mercilessly)

soldier has free perma fast movement speed automatically making him better than every DPS even without the aimbot ult and free AoE heal.

It's hilarious how stupidly this character has outclassed all the other DPS since release

backstory

Venture literally talks about pronouns and non-binary ninjas in her in-game voice lines and uses made-up genders in certain non-English locales. This is not backstory, this rears its head in actual matches.

They literally reversed everything you stated though.

In 2018ish hard counters ruined it because it raised the skill floor so high that average random play teams would be very frustrating. Even winning was unsatisfying because it was just exploiting the opponents doing something dumb. Losing when our team did something dumb was frustrating too. It just sucked 100% of the time.

Ex Moria is not a DPS. If you get gold DPS with her then you’re actually a piss poor player that traded ult charge with the enemy team and newsflash, A nanoboosted Visor and hammer down are better than just Moria overcharging her ult or blasting it off when we’re not even engaged. That character inspired play that just fed the opposing team every god damn match. She is a poor healer that can also hard counter some flankers and needs to stay with the core team and watch their back, not shoot damage balls through enemy shields half a mile away. Like 100 matches and even arguments with people that refuse to stop feeding. It just became the norm forever. Then the hamster ball guy cemented that. You could just change to Reaper and ult charge on him in seconds because he would just swing around in your face and pose no threat. I faced 15 reaper ults in one match then started switching to do it too. It was stupid easy. Completely unsatisfying wins. I have like a 20:1 kdr on my reaper and only like 3 hours of play time because I only play Reaper to fuck bad hamster’s teams. These kinds of changes only got more severe.

I met their lead UX researcher at a conference and he was bragging about using win loss data to tweak hero abilities and at no point in time did he even mention how a character was used. That’s why it’s bad. Georgia Tech HCI majors don’t hear the term gameplay loop or team comp or flanker. They literally have no idea what they are tweaking or why and treat it like site metrics and act like win rate is conversion rate.

except in higher matches he's bad, his ult is bad if you can aim since better players prefer to land a series of headshots instead of slow bodyshots. Several others had burst abilities that could easily instakill him so his hp pot and run is his actual only defensives
outside 1 patch it was super rare to see a soldier in masters and higher games. quickmatch is a diffirent story

well you see, for me it's Widowmaker

True but thats why people hated 2, in the past tense!

changing lore based on identity politics

Any examples?

Retconning characters to be gay like Soldier 76, or changing Mcree’s name because the real developer he is named after asked someone out at the office, or adding more minorities like Doomfist and the ugly brown girl. Some of that is ok but we’ll never get another angelic blond or tough white dude. Just shit like that. It’s a big part of why they canceled PVE, the backstories are too white or pit a white Soldier 76 against Mexican cartels. They just can’t bring themselves to make such content and consider the existing backstories to be “tone deaf” following George Floyde. That’s the real reason it was canceled. They already have levels and staging and story boards and voice actors and enemy models from the holiday levels. It would have been relatively easy for them to make. Also with losing players left and right, it would pull even more out of random play. It’s basically admitting that it is a dying game. They are trying to just keep the lights on right now.

Doomfist was from the start, problem was him changing character to yolo one-punch guy to some angryang grim mmuh law of the jungle retard villian. His early concept was literal lucio but on the bad side and centered around punching and wrestling people instead of music. THey intially even piched terry from those old spice commercials to do the voicelines. The original before-fight exchange between zarya and reinhardt was actually doomfist and rein. On old maps like holywwod you can still see the movie psoters about trilogy of doomfists like scourge, successor etc. because he wasn't considered super le evil mastermind villian
the actual lol inserts were soldier and tracer - their "reveal" was literal "btw im gay"/ Traer was your go to pinup britbong and soldier your typcial vigilante, there wasno need for any of the sexual stuff
a lot of old characters from the time it was a titan, got changed by hacks to insert extremly retarded ideas and you can clearly see what was original idea like whole brigette torb and rein trio, and what was the insert like that sexuality bullshit and tranny miner abonomination

Retconning characters to be gay like Soldier 76

Was always gay.

changing Mcree’s name because the real developer he is named after asked someone out at the office

That was indeed retarded.

adding more minorities like Doomfist and the ugly brown girl

A character being black by itself is not a bad thing. In fact, Overwatch is great at making cool characters regardless of race.
Doomfist is kino. Sombra is great. Baptiste is perfectly fine. Illari and Sojourn are fun to play as.
Literally their only mistake was Venture.

we’ll never get another angelic blond or tough white dude. Just shit like that.

You sound like a whiny racist fuck. We literally got Juno, Hazard and Freja back to back.

Was always gay.

no, original frame have nothing about sexuality. The reveal was a random pitch idea month before it happened, so it's your ltieral higherup telling to make him gay. At least tracer had it in drafts
also was googling to find doomfist reveal trailer but with terry voicelines and found this. Just imagine the shift in how hard he fits despite using lines from commercials youtube.com/watch?v=CsdiZiUe0DU

Overwatch 1 was ruined long before 2 came out.
Also they flat out didn't deliver on announcement promises.
Also blizzard just deserves the shit anyway.

no, original frame have nothing about sexuality

So there was nothing stating that he was straight either?

better, there was nothing about sexuality, because it served no purpose for gameplay and story at that time. At that point they at least wanted for story bits to be coherent, like thre's no need for sexuality and romance for character that doesn't have anything to do with it.It was better for a widow story bit with her killing off her husband who was also one of overwatch higher-ups/ Whole backstory of Reaper and Soldier was them being bros and slowly fading into rivarly and open conflict. Tracer had very close friend who's now her girlfriend.
This follow the very old rule especially seen in rpgs, where if something isn't stated, you can do whatever fanfiction you want. Soldier sexuality wasn't stated, so he could be gay, trans or whatever you liked, it was open to your imagination. It was not the focus of the canon
what we get now is adding those features so we can get le representation, and making new charatcer that fills enough checkboxes. That's why characters that were made 15 years ago like junker queen, despite being released in ow2, feels much diffirent than some of the new ones like tranny, that lotus guy and solar something girl. Some character were refined for those logn years, while some of them are just modern get a new character with this this and this characteristic to get representation. And it doesn't matter if they're gay, hetero, black or white - there's vast difirence between character that got written and refined for years, and the one that's build from literal lego blocks with modern social bullshit labels. I'm not playing ow2 but at first glance they're trying to get back to odl ways with that scottish guy and juno

It was not the focus of the canon

And it still isn't. It's literally just a piece of his backstory.
I don't think he even mentions it in any voiced interactions.
Do you also have a problem whenever characters blatanly flirt with one another in game or just the LGBT ones?

They walked back every single promise because they knew they had the market cornered. Now that rivals came out and is revered they are in full panic mode

Just goes to show you some companies only care about how much you pay (aka why they got rid of loot boxes)

Fuck overwatch and anyone who plays it, if rivals didn’t come out there would be even less content now then before