Hot take:
Hot take:
I hate Redditserk's influence on medieval fantasy so fucking much.
i prefer warhammers
boring as FUCK, kill yourselves
muh realism
KILL YOURSELVES
Right
Greatsword
Left
Ultra Greatsword
yes
the left looks silly
I was like you. Take the Odachi pill and don't look back.
Guard is too small, handle too shirt and there are no secondary guards too allow for half-swording safely.
Not even a greatsword / 10
That's right, because right is a greatsword (though on the thin side) and left is a colossal sword.
.t elden rang
2hander on the left is superior
I take the left one.
cool take:
gut's sword is cool
Yeah it looks retarded, I hate the giant paddle shit like ff7 or le guts greatsword
Just don't understand why mexicans are so passionate about it of all people. Guarantee everyone defending this stupid shit is a spic.
Not really a hot take, just fantasy vs real design, a large paddle wouldn't be practical as a sword, same for warhammers where the head part is too heavy to swing properly.
The only weapons with apparent oversized parts that I can think of are bardiches and halberdiers.
Cry more moeshitters
Why's the hand guard here so small? Neither of these are realistic.
Warhammers were zsed, and while most were one handed, two handed ones were used too. One handed or two handed, they would wreck swordfighters in a fight. Cope.
for me it's an intimidating oversized slab of hollowed metal that is cute and wieldy once you get through her tsundere exterior uwu desu ne~
he says as Berserk degenerates into Guts going on zany adventures with naked lolis
Oh no no no...
UGGGGHHH, I hate giant LARP foam sword weapons in fantasy! It’s so u realistic!
I prefer the more grounded designs in my JRPGs with women fighters and massive hitboxes the size of skyscrapers
Getting angry at “oversized” weapons in video games is unironically the juvenile stance.
Ultragreatswords only make sense in settings with ultralight stronger than steel materials.
You can use a big enough blade as a shield.
Yes smaller swords swung by the same person will always be more agile.
...and get destroyed by the first random dingus wielding a warhammer in his way.
I'm not going to say that was as good as golden age but it was enjoyable.
if it breaks suspension of disbelief, it's bad
Juan, you'll never fit in
spears are better
It ruins the atmosphere, just like having females in fighting roles
I recently bought the exact same one. pretty fun to smash things. thought I now have a bunch of holes around my house after a drunk night
I like flamberge-blade swords like the Soul Reaver. Absolute timeless classic.
If you don't like big ass swords you're scientifically a faggot
going on zany adventures with naked lolis
female knight
JAPANESE knight
pigeon toed knight
belts belts belts
leather, not mail
actual mail is either scale or sequins
Le Red Hair Strand so unique!!! uwu
tumblr nose
"I can't draw expressions"
imaginary holy symbol
horny design with a skintight fabric crotch yet the boobplate crushed her flat
Tell me again, why do artists bother?
Ultragreatswords only make sense in settings with ultralight stronger than steel materials.
...Or in settings where the fighter can reach Hercules level of strength and swing around a sword like it's a knife? Most RPGs fall in that category.
You must be fun at parties.
Right looks like a regular sword. What's supposed to be so great about it? Left doesn't look that impressive either.
Let me out it this way. Women prefer the one on the left 9/10 times. Even if it's shorter.
reddit response. btw parties are for sex, not to entertain someone else's guests
Why yes, because I'm not into anime but women.
Since this thread us about realistic historical weapons vaguely I just wanna show some of my favorite sword fights in movie which are realistic to varying degrees.
youtu.be
From the deluge, this is straight up one of the most realistic polish saber duels in in film history, and also does a very very good job at showing the character's personality and skill level, the tall guy is a very showboaty novice and the shorter guy is a experienced veteran who is mostly messing with and trying to embarrass the novice.
youtu.be
From the Macbeth movie, there are a few silly things in this fight but it is still relatively very realistic with the armor working completely and the fight fatigue.
Actual materials become unweildy in comparison to normal weapons faster even with the super strength buff. A person with super strength is still better off swinging a normal weapon in such a case.
"hercules strength", that mfker can swing pretty much anything with the same ease
No, not realism, faget. It looks fucking cooler that they're slender. No fat chicks.
how does one achieve traps like that?
man, you are the biggest fucking attention whore Anon Babble has ever seen
(You)
So what's your opinion on the sword, retard?
I was with you until
horny design
nigga that is the least sexed up design of all time, it's basically a dude with long hair.
Prudes go the fuck back.
l>east sexed up design of all time
no leg armor
crotch literally open for rape
okay, normalshitter, maye lurk one more week before you start postan
Whenever you don't know anything, pick up the heaviest thing you can before shrugging.
As always, good games have both.
boring
no one even does the realism.
In this case 'fantasy' is the boring option
literally every inch of skin is covered
horny design
go back
why do prudes like you even come to Anon Babble
a giant sword is what breaks your suspension of disbelief?
low T
Doesn't matter, I'm not playing your generic broun looking low-fantasycopypaste setting.
Give me a weapon that fits with the character's design, be it thin as a needle or thick as a treetrunk.
Did you even look at the image?
It's not about realism vs fantasy.
Thin, straight blades just look better.
Look how much more aesthetic this is.
Still a fantasy sword, but with a better shape.
Warhammers and maces are a cope. Watch Dequitem or other armored fighter youtubers. You can get hit all day by warhammers in plate and feet nothing. There is no "transfer of force" happening. There is not denting and smashing of armor happening. Half-swording with a longsword to stab at gaps is the only reliable way to defeat an armored opponent.
is this the thread
I don't understand the realism niggers. If you are fighting other people sure the right is better, if you are fighting a dragon the right isn't doing shit
armored fighter youtubers
I prefer left. It stands out more.
this is the ideal sword size
right
available at the start of the game, requires a bit of STR and DEX
left
available later on in the game, STRmaxxers only
If you're fighting a dragon the plausibility of a weapon is irrelevant.
if a greatsword doesnt have a zweihander leather bound grip above the handle its shit
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Thin blade
Bersissies in shambles
Oh no someone makes youtube videos I guess the point is invalid. Dumb fucking bitch.
t.
Warhammers always suck in games. why is that?
cloth fabric will stop those swords, and dicks, from hurting my crotch!
literally has plate and boiled leather everywhere else
Anon, you do know that artists draw skintight crotch clothes because they're horny, right?
My complaint was that the artist won't pick a lane, horny or fighting clothes. I can't take it seriously with the extremely vulnerable and dangerous to get cut crotch and inner thighs that are obviously like that because the artist is horny.
Not a fan of girth eh
You're talking to someone who posts Simpsons memes. You can't get more reddit bitch than that.
no it doesn't
I like the right one because I really enjoy stabbing and impaling enemies, and those types of blades are much better for that.
I'm a fan of flat-tipped swords, personally.
Manlytears carrying a dagger
I also hate these unrealistic horny armors with cloth and leather here and there and too many belts.
Based and execution pilled
I want to see what would happen if we weaponized Moomintrolls.
Hey.
muh (((western))) swords muh (((zweihander)))
ACK!!!!!!!!!!
they are also better for cutting by virtue of encountering less friction.
circumcised
you're a dyel if you think strong dudes would want to carry those sixty pound metal sticks around
Being retarded and wrong doesnt make you cool, the opposite actually
They're basically a peasant tool modified to be used for war. They aren't romantic like swords or lances despite blunt force being just as good if not better against heavy armor.
left is for men. right is for sissies.
fact of the matter is that if you could lift a heavier weapon you would.
completely flattens the profile for """realism"""
Why? Not every sword was a flat longsword.
No, this is a great sword design.
On an unrelated note, it will never not be weird that the Bionic Commando remake ripped this game off.
complaining about reddit is, ironically, reddit
Post pics.
Your sword VILL have less sword
and you VILL be happy
No
we're dealing with self-described stoics and realists who believe real-world treasure swords, decorative swords and parade weapons don't exist and that fantasy must be realistic
for me, it's flamberge
Anime swords > realism swords
That looks like a short Gladius-type sword which is no longer than a human arm.
Bigger swords don't have those types of broad blades with curved edges because they would be too heavy.
what's the pint of that wavy blade?
This is a bad example. The designs of all the weapons and armors in Skyrim are overwrought, but they’re not even remotely visually coherent or aesthetically pleasing. Sanding off all the arbitrary edges and curves and flattening all of the nonsensical ornamentation makes the design look better because it makes the design more coherent, not because thin, straight blades are the only type of aesthetically pleasing blades. Making the glass sword more straight is simply one way to make it look not awful, but it isn’t the only way.
if you get stabbed you arent stitching that up
Bigger swords don't have those types of broad blades with curved edges because the longer a sword gets the less sense it makes to use it as anything but a thrusting weapon zweihanders were pretty much interchangeable with pikes in practice and the "shock and awe" of such a large sword being used didn't mean it was a good or practical slashing weapon. European medieval swords still didn't get much longer if at all than a gladius on average (2 to 3 feet from blade to pommel), about 35 inches was the typical length for what we think of as a knight's sword- barely longer than a gladius.
it looks cool
waves allow better bracing and at higher point on the blade to step up against long weapons, assuming you have the strength required to maintain the brace that high up lol
the point of swords is to be sharp you retard
the momentum of the sharp blade is what hurts, not its weight
It adds elemental water damage
Flamberge swords' wave-patterned blades inflicted wounds that didn't heal well with the medical technology available at the time.
Historically you wanted your weapon as light as possible no matter what you used you dumb brown nigger.
is there any big game i might have missed over the years with physics based medieval combat?
up to 6 feet long
How do you unsheathe a sword that is almost as tall as you are tho
Only things you're really gonna get are Mordhau (positioning based and pretty janky), Kingdom Come (positioning/physics and pretty boring because it's Realistic), and Chivalry (worse Mordhau).
I think both are fine aslong as the design is actually good. In Dark Souls I love both the zwei, astora ultra greatsword type of swords, but I also love the monster hunter greatsword designs
meanwhile skyrim just has shit designs and that's that
You don't sheathe it. Someone else carries it for you.
Side sheathe.
You don't. If your weapon is that fucking big you're only sheathing it for travel and moving through towns, and you're probably not even the one carrying it.
it is sharp
it is light, if youre not a pussy
BEHOLD
you get a squire to carry it for you
bitches love knights with a squire
based
Twinblades, my beloved.
*as possible
Work on that reading comprehension you dumb brown nigger.
In Dark Souls it adds bleed damage.
powerlifters don't carry around heavy objects in their off time for fun
Give me punch swords
if it were as light as possible youd just be using brass knuckles. you dont even practice what you preach
Realism when it comes to melee weapons is important. I just genuinely am not able to suspend disbelief and get pulled right out when I see obese popsicle greatswords. Save all that autism for guns and ranged weapons, you have a lot more breathing room there. Like pic related, is absurd, but it's still cool and there's a world where it could actually work.
Yeah. I dislike monster hunter style oversized swords too.
I do like some anime ones like .
I'm the bored kind that thinks a Longsword is the most aesthetic thing ever.
Then it would not be a greatsword? Please learn english another two years and reread my post I am begging you DUMB BROWN NIGGER
Not him but your reading comprehension sucks dick dude. He specifically said
no matter what you used
meaning that no matter what tool you're using for combat you wanted it to be light. That doesn't mean it's the only consideration for which tool you pick
Half Sword isn't out yet but it has a demo
people unironically defending skyrims paddle swords
me when i cry about skyrim being defended and the only other mentions of skyrim in the thread are people dumping on its weapon designs
The year is 2025 and melee combat in most games is still shit with very little actual gore or model damage occurring at all.
storming a castle isnt off time, its cleaving time.
how great can it be if it cant even dent their armor and you have to resort to hitting them with the handle? apparently "as light as possible" means cant even do the job it was designed for..
I can't wait for the full thing.
Greatswords are about 6 lbs (2.75 kgs) on average.
The scabbard often has a cut from halfway to the hilt meaning you have to unsheathe only 3 feet before pulling it out.
It's still an ass design because it means the sword can still rust since it's not completely shut in, but with maintenance that's not a problem.
I have no idea why the second game had to add that gayass glow to everything.
great sword
no proof of its greatness
I'm primarily a katanafag and other adjacent Japanese swords but damn if the Jian isn't aesthetic as FUCK.
If you could lift such a weapon you could just literally rip the head off every fully armored man you meet, cave in their breastplate with a swift kick. Stop trying to make anime weapons practical.
Built for Donovan.
that red flutter seems like it'd get annoying quick
so close yet so far. single edge > double edge
those swords are for officers aint gonna see much combat everyones running around with spears
xivpedo pls go
see, if the weapon can't cut through full plate and maille in one hit it's bad. by the way what's a blunt weapon? what's a thrust?
Polearms deserve more love.
Hi Dikshit.
treasure swords, decorative swords and parade weapons
yeah go ahead and use one of those in a fight buddy see how it works out for you
You dont need weight to do that, he could pick up any sword and do that, people aren't 7 feet wide. He could just rip people in half if he wanted.
aye
retard is bringing knife to a sword fight
lol! lmao!
You'd look a gift twinblade in the mouth?
By swinging a 300lb sword around every day, obviously.
"those swords aren't practical!" is an automatic report to everyone in the room that you're the dumbest gorilla currently occupying space in it
Of course you can fuck people up with fancy ornate swords, too.
You can also do it with newspaper too, but that's irrelevant.
Nah you realism fags are the Redditors. Take your "a-akshually" historical accuracy shit back to where it belongs. I want my spiky pauldrons and bikini armor and giant weapons.
if you aren't a tranny you are a peepee poopoo
NPC moment. Your brain is buck broken.
the average sword weighs ~3-5 pounds
big swords weigh 5-6 pounds
rapiers were heavier than the arming swords which they replaced
the swords most famous for being giant still weigh less than my cat
Halberds are the ultimate weapon.
long reach
pointy stabby end
spike to hook cavalry faggots off their horses and easily finish off knocked down troops with a downward swing
axe blade because why the fuck not
The swiss army knife of weaponry.
curved swords
okay but it'd be cool tho right
Look man I'm not going to engage sincerely with one sidedly dismissive people and would rather just fling shit to add to the shit pile.
This shit looks unbelievably retarded, why do hemafags get so hype for drunk retard physics sims? First it was exanima and now this
They have some niche and minor advantages, such as
they slice through clothes better
they bind against opposing blades and hafts better
they can't be grabbed by opponents without cutting their hands open by the slightest movement on your part, unlike regular straight blades
But the majority of them in history were probably made just to look cool, not for any practical reasons.
full plate
still using a shield
Lmao what a pussy
lose stabbing power
gain ???
i will now buy your sword
spike to hook cavalry faggots off their horses and easily finish off knocked down troops with a downward swing
if your cavalryman killing technique takes two motions youve already been stabbed by the second cavalryman and the first one gets back on his horse and rides off to steal your corn
it's not even realism, that pencil sword would snap in its first encounter
That's why you bring more troops.
drunk retard physics sims
Historically accuratel depiction of knights
Oh no someone makes youtube videos I guess the point is invalid
Correct, now go back.
literally just cope for peasants who can't afford a horse
You carry the whole thing with a simple sheath with no straps or attachment. Once it's time to use it, just fling the sheath off away from you with one of your hands.
You forgot
having another bro with a halberd
standing guard
crossing the halberds when some peon wants to enter and saying a oneliner
not sure if you've ever tried it, but wielding a horse in battle is pretty difficult
fytroon trying to make the thread about him
lmao
Everybody forgot that Guts' sword is basically impratical unless he wields it.
well you're right about that
spear
conquered the known world
stabby gladius
conquered the known world
gunpowder with stabby bayonet
conquered the known world
slash and blunt fags kneel to the pierce niggas
only thing peasants could afford were farm materials
scythes
What in the name of God didst thou claim of me, thou miserable wretch? I must inform thee that I am a knight of unsurpassed valor and I have many a time participated in raids against the Viking rebels and have assuredly slain thirtyscore of them. I have trained in the art of simian warfare and none can challenge my skills of archery. Thou art nought in my eyes but another target. I shall exterminate thee with such accuracy that has never before been seen upon this mortal plane, hear me now. Didst thou truly believe thou couldst slander me so upon the tapestry? Reconsider your position, fool. As I write this, I am in the process of contacting my network of assassins across the land of England and they are tracking your movements at this instant, so thou would be wise to prepare thyself for the coming storm. The storm that destroys the unfortunate object you refer to as your life. Thou art assuredly deceased, knave. I can appear at any location and at any time, and can end thy life in seventyscore ways, and that be only when using my bare hands. But I am not solely skilled in fisticuffs; I also posess access to the entirety of Duke William's armory and I will make full use of it when banishing your body from the entirety of the earth. Thou scoundrel, perhaps hadst thou known what apocalyptic vengeance thy "clever" jests were to bring upon thee thou wouldst have held thy tongue. But thou couldst not, nor did not, and now thou art paying the due price of thy actions, fool. I shall defecate fury upon thee and thou shall flounder within it. Thou art truly smote, knave.
scythes are horrible weapons, even with the blade reversed so it's actually facing outwards, shit is designed to mow grass not withstand combat
the best and most favored weapons used to be the bow and crossbow.
Don't mind me. Just posting a cool vidya sword.
Cutting power, curved swords cut better.
belts
Holding up everything that matters. The anime girl has belts holding onto nothing.
His are thin, reflecting the weight, strength and value of the leather. Hers are all bigger than his belt... which I don't think is appropriate at all but Game of Thrones and fat consumers does that.
Oh yeah and she has two giant belts for some reason.
cloth
He has some attempt at padded cloth. He's missing the codpiece that's supposed to make it look like he has an erection as is why the thigh armour isn't a skirt but has a hole in the middle. The codpiece is allowed to fit underneath decorative cloth and often does.
leather
Only his belts and shoes are leather? And even then, with modernity, it could just be faux, and he'll have needed to compromise on the soles for the fact that shoe technology has actually improved for a reason. The anime girl has boiled leather armour going up her legs, which might as well be studded for how realistic it is.
Why does she have an adventurer's pack? Why did she bring that heavy load to the battlefield? Why is it hardened leather and not a cloth sack? Might as well be in a wooden cart with everyone else's belongings at that point!
Could you try and get some real armour next time? Maybe someone with, y'know, a helmet?
Swords exist in a setting with guns
that's what i meant bwo...
I never understood this, unless the blade is slicing very cleanly through someone you'd get more surface area from a flat surface than a curved one.
based Kriegsmesser chad
That's cool and all but can we see Rean-sama's
To show off
Everything else you read is armchair expert bullshit
I am not a quarterstaff user
but
I fucking hate this visual trend of extremely oversized belts being tied off at the end, it looks ridiculous and all I can think of is the dumbass frantically trying to prevent his pants from falling down mid battle. Get something that fits or cut off the excess end.
the last cavalry charge was in 1942
540 B.C.
Why did Roman armor leave the forearms and legs exposed so much? Seems like a really easy spot to get a blade caught on.
visual trend
that's how belts were worn most of the time in history
That's more grounded but considerably less cool, a complete lack of visual impact.
It's like choosing to play LS in MH
Easy
You dont put it into a sheath
why?
these are probably the most aesthetic blades, falchions too, aswell as seaxes
Not in Mordhau.
In Mordhau this thing fucks.
2015
MP5 on a riot cop
immersion ruined
In straight swords the vector of the force applied is at maximum at only one point and you'll almost always hit stuff at an angle of said vector.
For some reason our monkey brain just does the calculations better to almost always hit stuff with the best possible vector when a sword is slightly curved.
That setting doesn't look 1942 inspired...
Even the Longswords in MH are comically huge
Got bored waiting for another dev thread to shit up huh?
Got bored waiting for another dev thread to shit up huh?
Skyrim Nordniggers are basically Cro-Magnon tier in some areas so a primitive weapon fits
doesn't require a belt buckle
The armor you posted is also horribly unrealistic
I wonder how all polearmfags feel that scythes are their over fantasized weapons
It's more about how the curve accommodates body movements.
So fucking based
that's how belts were worn most of the time in history
You don't really see the tied belts until late 13th century. Before that in the middle ages belt excess just tends to hand down
Nah the general shape of left is better the point is just too fat
Fine enough most times?
If we're talking realism you'd know it's not like every person you'd come across even during the advent of two handers would be decked out with full plate, shield and two rotating musketeers beside them specifically to fuck close range combat.
You could wound or end someone with just about anything, the issue was whether you were permitted to and how it would affect your standing.
have comically long weapon in IRL history
the pike
no mainstream action vidya where you get to swing around this fuckhueg stick
LAME
*hang down
if were talking about realism most people couldnt afford a treasure or parade sword, much less use one in combat
pike
swing
your gonna plant your ass in your formation and wait for the other formation to walk into you and you are going to enjoy it
I would simply have a gigajacked player character and clear entire fields like it's a musou, thank you
Vidya katanas>>>>literally any other vidya sword
You simply cannot refute this
Pikes would not be fun just dicking around by yourself with. You need buddies.
I thought of a first person battlefield type game (but medieval) where organizing into infantry blocks with teammates gives you health and armor bonuses.
Apparently the game war of rights has a feature where a commander can draw a line on the ground that his squad can align with. Never played it though.
All the historians who say pollaxes and polearm hammers were the best way to fight an armored fighter are wrong
Some modern reenactors who do youtube are right
This is how dumb you are.
I like both oversized fantasy swords and I like realistic swords.
bash a guy's head in in one swing
hit the griddy on his corpse
SHOW'EM THE CAWLD STEEL DEY WON'T LOIKE IT UP 'IMS
I'll never hate Mordhau no matter how sweaty it is.
I think there's room for both in fantasy, bigger chunkier blades for more full strength character, thinner ones for more swordsmans like characters who have a mix of form and strength
LOOK AT ME GUYS
I HAVE A NONSTANDARD OPINION
ANYONE WHI DIASAGREES WITH ME IS A FAGGOT RETARD
Switches out katana for longsword mid frame
You really thought noone would notice?
All the historians
Who specifically told you this anon?
Yeah, stands out more if you're using it as a boat oar.
When you post shit like this you are beyond saving.
We don't do that here.
I only like the left when its something unique and distinguishing about the character and its understandable that for whatever reason can utilize a 600lb tool as a sword. I dislike in when every asshole on the block has one including four foot tall anime teen girls.
Chad take:
Ultragreatsword that is unwieldy: kino
Real Greatsword that is unwieldy: cringe
Spears are underrated. They can even cut (sometimes) youtube.com
What would you call these swords in a fantasy novel where germany never existed?
what you're doing is the equivalent of knowing monster trucks are real and concluding that Gravedigger is designed to be driven on public roads.
Play better games. Hammers kick ass in Souls and were the best weapon category in Salt and Sacrifice. They are also amoungst the best melee weapons in Fallout and solidly powerful and viable in Elder Scrolls and most classic roguelikes. Finally, in Mount and Blade they aren't that strong, but finishing off an enemy with a hammer or mace will let you sell them to the slave market for a sweet profit boost.
Brown
Brown
Brown
Like a Nigger.
Vergil really wielding that AliExpress 5 dollars made in China katana huh?
The Yamato is forged by the strongest demon to ever live and can literally cut dimensional tears in the universe. So no.
exposure
My guess is the heavy shields compensated for how expensive metal was back then and you're
Though I've never seen someone actually explain how archaeological evidence works for the Roman period in particular as bronze survives the ravages of time pretty well but cloth? Leather? Iron?
I've seen depictions of romans in as much mail as a late norman knight.
I've never seen a depiction of how the common roman soldier handled a climate further north than Tuscany, let alone winter, or dare I say Hadrian's Wall.
It honestly feels like artist's impressions and larpers 90% of the time. Like how dinosaurs are rule of cool.
And the funny thing with that image I used there, the most white person depicted is the Roman. Y'know, one of the only two non-Germanics depicted? Rule-of-cool.
anon time travelled
What the fuck, dont mess with this dude
Well, a messer was made to get around a stupid government restriction (a recurring theme in weapon design) on swords by pretending it was a big knife. The fantasy setting may need the same circumstances, so give it another language's word for "big knife" or "war knife".
Maybe use Irish. Scian Mhór.
Or Finnish. Sotaveitsi.
Was referring to the tacky white wrapping, golden ring, jet black scabbard that clash and make it look like a cheap toy you'd get for almost free.
Realistic weapons look better
sir, this is a farming tool
the only thing you can fight against is crops and weeds
Oh I'm going to mess with him.
VAE VICTIS!!!
That's a claymore not a zweihander.
No it isn't
Oh hey, isn't that that gay furry who stubbornly keeps denying that he is a furry?
looks more like a scaly to me.
Just because the player character isn't a skinny Jap twink doesn't mean the developer is a homosexual. Why would you ever want to play as an androgynous azn? Says a lot more about you, honestly.
crops and weeds
such is the nature of all those who oppose my mighty polearm! there art no difference to them!
The enemies before me claim to be mighty warriors. But all I see is chaff.
(Suffering to the conquered.)
No I like big blades
says this
dies to a chump charging with a pitchfork
tragic
My man!
So he has the STR requirement.
my pole arm is longer.
all dragonslayer copies miss the details that make it so great and iconic
you guys sound new as fuck holy gay contrarians man
Arming swords are better.
A comically short haft?
Why do retards think the power of a weapon comes from the size of the blade?
This is the best looking greatsword in vidya
no way in a real fight someone with a pole weapon would let the opponent even come near
Misspelling "Anime swords" as "Arming swords".
Holy ESL.
Do not redeem the pajeet, saar.
It works great for Berserk. Everybody copying it is not Berserk's fault
Splendid idea to have the idle animation be the exact angle where you can't see the sword.
I could mention a billion other problems here but you're not paying me
could do a harness like this just take the middle strap out and put swappable buttons on the top one
Le big spikey combat hammer on le long pole
When will this meme stop?
Nobody ever used combat hammers in the middle ages and spears and other polearms were peasant weapons.
Swords ruled the battlefields.
People forget that Guts fucking swings Dragonslayer insanely quickly too. Guts maxed out STR and DEX. Doesn't matter anyway, magic is the best.
I understand.
Fuck no.
For me? It is rapiers. They are beautiful and woefully underapreciated swords.
Everything in a Fantasy genre needs to be hyper realistic and historically accurate!!
Yes, gives you a free hand to wield something else, like a mace or a shield or just grabbing a dude so you can shank them better.
Guts is maxed out on every stat possible for a mortal human to have except Luck and Intelligence.
I mog you.
My game has Dragons that run around in suits of armor wielding swords made of fire. I just hate Japanese designs because they look fucking stupid.
draw fantasy thing
it looks worse than real thing
Make it look as good or better and no one will complain
switches to normal sword in cut
kys you dumb motherfucker
I love blades that start off wide as fuck and taper into a straight blade like that, no idea if there's a name for it
Didn't the blacksmith make it as a joke?
Guts would literally be lethal if he wielded a sword with less retarded proportions
It's just a normal sword that got clipped by quartermaster Jews before battle
He did use a normal sword against an apostle. It was useless and broke and he had to grab the huge slab he uses now to stand a chance.
That's wrong, he needs the insane power from swinging around his huge sword to keep up with the demons he kills.
Strengthlets need not apply.
let
The player deflected the pole up and sidestepped inside its arc. Reach can be a disadvantage as it takes no power to redirect the tip due to leverage.
to be fair a regular sword isn't doing shit against giant apostles, back when he fought humans it was just retardedly long swords instead of that hunkachunk he has now
Agreed, although they're boring af.
Half-swording with a longsword to stab at gaps is the only reliable way
Not reliable, nothing short of high-powered crossbows and firearms is reliable against plate, the absolute pinnacle of personal armoring.
It makes sense to have a rock-paper-scissors system in a game, but it skews our perceptions because irl-wise plate should just be OP.
Maces and axes btfo'd chainmail, which was ubiquitous and around for far longer. Swords couldn't do anything even against this lesser form of armor.
truth
modern fantasy is such a garbage, too bad modern gaymers are such stupid niggers with no taste and can't differentiate
Guts wields Dragonslayer because any other sword would break on him, at this point. Plus, the thing is so fucking ungainly heavy and large that it functions both as a massive hammer and a fuck-huge blade. Helps that it's been bathed in so much Apostle blood that it's become a magic weapon too.
More games need to add the ability for weapons to become enchanted by murdering a specific kind of thing for long enough. Imagine killing a hundred fire-based monsters and the sword takes on a permanent red-hot temperament, or if you kill enough people with one, it develops a craving for human flesh and starts growing teeth and meat and shit.
I always had a soft spot for falchions and I realized the chinks had their own variant
da dao my beloved
they're just the copers melee weapon, too stubborn to move onto the ranged meta
It doesn’t need to be hyper realistic but U do appreciate it being practical or making sense.
I was never a fan of things like “little girl wearing super heavy armor and carrying a giant axe”, it just looks dumb
longswordbros...
why do retards think things have to be 100% realistic in a setting that does not make any attempt to present itself as such
every fantasy game has a "broadsword"
actual broadswords are nowhere to be seen
kill a bunch of pigs
sword turns into ham
That slab should be breaking more easily given its retarded proportions
That makes no sense but you probably have no idea how the physics work anyway
Having a wide blade with a super short handle doesn't generate more power than a traditional sword
The oversized weight would make the sword less lethal, it's about velocity not mass and no it doesn't work like a hammer (and no real hammers don't look like stupid fantasy hammers)
The sword looks dumb, like a 12 year old chuuni's idea of cool
sword thread
no best sword posted
Yes, I want more realistic looking weapons and armor, especially in fantasy settings.
You have enough of meme shit already.
Didn't the blacksmith make it as a joke?
Pretty much.
Still a fantasy sword
Lies. That's just a normal sword colored green.
Force = mass * acceleration, dumb nigger. The force a big, heavy sword swinging into you at the rate Guts usually slams that shit, it's no wonder regular people end up as multiple chunks of meat by the time that shit crashes into the ground. It doesn't even matter how sharp the blade is at that point; it WILL kill you from the sheer force of the swing alone.
i am so glad this website brings out the most contrarian, creatively bankrupt people around out to just say shit like this
anyway check this cool shit out you dumb monkey
Force = mass * acceleration, dumb nigger.
Ah you retard. It's
KE=1/2mv^2
I didn't even read the rest of your fucking retard post if you can't get that right. Lower your tone, failure.
That's just a normal sword colored green.
Not really, although it is a more nuanced design.
Your example is the best out of the three for sure, however.
Do not redeem the PAJEET BLADE!!!
Video game weapons are always comically oversized so they are easier to see on the screen. This goes back to the 2D pixel era. There's less excuse for it now in the ultra HD era.
like a 12 year old chuuni's idea of cool
Why are we pretending 12 year old chuunis don't know what's cool.
insulting based autist's swordfu
its a quest i just got cant be completed until the game is 70% over because these guards wont let a 14 year old boy with spiky hair into the damn palace kitchen episode
it's not really the width, it's how dense that thing is compared to the thin bendiness of normal swords
Yeah, that's a really cool normal looking sword that uses magic to add a weightless magical energy blade around it.
This faggot wants fable 3 mechanics.
Self inserting as a femoid.
Omegakek!
It would snap off the handle because of its proportions and the length to weight to thickness means it would probably get deformed towards its tip if used for combat. It's a stupid design. Sure it's fantasy but it looks like ass AND doesn't make any sense, so don't try to pretend it does. Just admit it's a chuuni sword.
My coolest sword in all of fiction.
Force and kinetic energy are two separate things, dumbass. They're related to by work, which is the difference in kinetic energy over time as a force is applied onto an object. You'd only get the kinetic energy of an object at the specific velocity you calculate for, whereas work shows how the net forces working on an object (in this case, Guts's sword) relates to the change in kinetic energy (in this case, from rest to the point of impact with a person).
tl;dr don't fucking reply to me or my cunny witch childwife ever again.
That's actually the point. Your opponent's eye is naturally drawn to the bright, colorful moving but as opposed to the point of your sword. It's designed to essentially force your enemy to take thier eye off the ball, as it were
based Terminus Est poster
I agree with you, but objectively for most retards it's the opposite.
They're completely fine with utterly absurd and unusable swords but you give them a scifi gun that isn't 100% plain boring realistic and completely mechanically sound and they'll throw a shitfit.
uhhh pokey poke haha
I want big gay all-purpose murderbox guns.
nah Borderlands guns are fucking abysmal you can do fantasy guns extremely badly too
you ain't using a sword as calvary or against calvary
No, retard. KE is the measure of force over distance. Do a simple google search.
you ain't using a sword as calv-ACK!
I prefer kirsten sword
a vidya weapon thread just in time for my new Moonlight Greatsword replica
Well alrighty then
has a shield
fag
Elucidator & Dark Repulsor
Gae Bolg
Fucking Clarent
King.
not see through material
it's SHIT
What about big swords that contain a smaller sword?
treasure swords
Hell yeah.
Random thought but are there any vidya weapons made out of the horn of a unicorn? Like on the tip of a spear or something.
A spear is both easier to handle and more deadly.
Nice/10
Realismfags are so obnoxious. If you're playing a fantasy game you can expect fantasy weapons. Yea, a ton of them look stupid but even more are cool and it's not like a game can't have both. Just look at the Souls games. They have plenty of goofy fantasy stuff and more grounded realistic weapons.
Very based collection. How much did that Clarent run you?
Eu troons not even trying to hide their utter butthurt about japan anymore. 24/7 seethe threads from them.
he doesn't make sliders of self-insert to put on a female character
NGMI
ESL
Something like this is my dreamed sword. But there's no "real" version of it
I don't care about realism but don't get mad when someone points out your gay fantasy sword looks dumb and don't try to pretend your gay fantasy sword makes any sense because then I'll have to bust out the realism
I REPRESENT THE SHOGUNATE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU FAGGOTS DROP YOUR SWORDS, YOU ARE BEING DETAINED
ain't that just a zweihander with a small twist guard
but what do the swords eat
Stop using hammers as weapons. It won't work. Swords are much better. Delete this post now.
It's a little funny that a sword like that is basically just a short spear. They even gave it that extra bit of handle so you can have variable grip positions just like a polearm.
Human cum, just like guns.
Correct, it's 1206
zweihander
Most of them look ugly as shit. I meant something VERY SIMILAR to the toy sword from the image
Most of them look ugly as shit
posts beautiful zweihanders
entire kamigawa is trash
one asshole artifact saves it by being pure cancer in ever legal format
Thank you. I've worked hard to build it all up
Sadly haven't found one like that, for any Moonlight sword. Not for lack of trying however
Ran me about $80 at a con last year. It's foam but its got decent heft and it won't get me in trouble if and when I take it to another con at some point
saying an unrealistic weapon is unrealistic is one thing but this "duhh it look dumb cause not real" is the demesne of Bad Autism
As good a thread as any to ask:
Mordhau or Chivalry 2?
Oh shit, that helmet and cape are supposed to be Leonidas' too, aren't they? Both the weapon autist and Type-Moon autist in me envy you on untold levels. I'll scratch getting an Excalibur replica off my bucket list someday..
ermmm this is dumb becuz it's unrealistic
yea it's not real everyone knows
IT'S NOT REALISTIC YOU HAVE TO CARE THAT I THINK IT'S DUMB
Shut up you autistic retard
Prosnorkulus swords are the most aesthetic.
this fucking sucks actually
Prosnorkulus swords are the most aesthetic.
But something can look dumb because it's too unrealistic. Like this.
not even the best greatsword in its own game
certainly but even using some of the unrealistic design behind the pizza cutter can work, for instance the MLGS is just a big sharp crystal that'd break the hell apart irl in 90% of its iterations but it still looks great. crystal/see-through swords are pure kino.
doctor fates helmet, the nightingale blade and dawnbreaker
all unrealistic swords are stupid because some of them are
YOU'RE A RETARD
I am not the biggest fan of curved guards. No matter how functional or whatever they may be. And the ones that have straight guards are just boring designs overall.
I like this one.
I am more of a fantasy guy tho. So don't expect me to appreaciate the beautifulness of 'muh realistic and practical and historical accurate sword design'
I never said that, child. Stop throwing a tantrum.
this is an axe
They're actually from comics, not vidya. Its the Helmet of Fate from DC and Dr. Strange's Cloak of Levitation, respectively.
I don't have Excalibur (yet) but I do have a full metal replica of Caliburn. Sadly it fell off my wall and a bunch of pieces broke off, its been in my to-do pile for a good minute
XVIIIe has all the proportions and aesthetics.
Be honest Anon Babble. You would.
Can you guys say nice things about my knight? I want the dopamine hits
here's your uber-sword made from a small piece of God, bro
keyblades are STUPID i hate all of them
Cost of production, climate they were in, and the general usage of the army. The roman army was famous for being one of the first to use its troops to build and maintain infrastructure like roads, aqueducts, outposts, even working on towns and cities.
Keep in mind that if you enlisted, you were expected to serve 25 years, and that meant doing your job even if there weren't any battles to fight. But as a reward your family was given a huge payout as well as some land.
And I'm sure that the modern interpretation of roman soldiers is missing key features. It's almost certain that there would have been stiff leather bracers and leggings that soldiers could strap on when needed. But for keeping the peace in a small outskirt town, or spending a few months constructing a roadway between cities, it wasn't needed - just have the basic chest armor to protect your vitals if any robbers or undesirables showed up.
realism is le bad
the artist making stupid shit up is... le good
Yes we get it, you're a pseud. You saw that screenshot on social media with that old fart who complains about realism and now you think you're a connoisseur.
Needs less clothes 7/10
horse is shot
you spill over and get crushed by it's corpse
your leg is shattered and your accidentally stab yourself in the tumble before losing your sword
A handsomely dressed rifleman walks up to you and stabs you with your own ornamental bullshit sword laughing.
Both styles should exist in the same game with their own pros and cons.
Oh yeah, now that you mention them I see it. Bummer about the Caliburn though, it's one of the few swords on Excalibur's level in my humble opinion.
the χ-Blade becomes far more kino once you realize the whole design is a reference to the keys of heaven and that the thing itself is intended to be used more as a tool/wand than a sword.
The hilt and blade on the right are not aligned >:(
More games need to add the ability for weapons to become enchanted by murdering a specific kind of thing for long enough.
This is one of those ideas that is good conceptually, and then actually implemented it turns into obnoxious grind where every time you upgrade weapon tier you have to spend an hour grinding your new weapon on fang bats because fang bats give the optimal +5 attack speed.
A frenchman or englishman would probably call it a great/long falchion. Someone more eastern might call it a great/long sabre instead.
Put it on the ground and push the sheathe a bit and awkwardly pull the sword out.
from the bowels of deviantart
I like to think that her sword is a whip sword, because it is made from her spine.
Its supposed to be the most powerful thing on the planet and it lost the only two fights its been shown in.
Put a trigger on the sheathe that fires it as a projectile off the sword.
A straight blade thus requires you to adjust your angle of attack based on how close or far your target is and where your blade will strike. At maximum range a straight cut like a radial line on a circle is ideal - you're only hitting with the tip of the blade, you want as much of the energy from the rest of the weapon to bite.
At closer range where you will strike with the middle of the blade you would need to adapt your angle of attack to some more like the a fan propeller, allowing the weight from tip to middle to compress into the cut.
At closest range cutting from near the hilt the same thing is true, but at a steeper, near useless angle that prevents getting the blade tip up to enough speed to be of much benefit transferring into the strike.
A curved sword just does all of that for you naturally. The energy at the tip to point of contact is already angled and allows the energy to transfer into the cut, rather than potentially flexing and simply being imparted into the steel as stress.
Mind, all of this is really only valuable for cutting unarmored peasants. But swords generally aren't so good for much of anything else, so
dedicated sword carrier boy (13-16)
he holds the sheathe while you draw the blade
Basically Paddles vs blade?
souls
too bad they are fucking gigantic making them look like shit unless it's the token real weapon included in the game.
weebs are just dyel fatties with zero conception of how much shit actually weighs irl. a traditional zweihander is only like 3 or 4 kg while these retarded anime swords would be like 120kg completely unwieldly pieces of shit held by some tiny twink anime guy its absolutely retarded looking. you can barely hold that shit by its tip
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The first time was a massively inferior version due to both being created wrong and due to Ventus still fighting back inside his heart preventing it from being completed and weakening Ventus-Vanitas and the second time Sora had to rewind time to try again. It's got a poor record for sure but it's not like it's jobbing.
hypocrisy
Guts's sword is like 60 lbs and considered one of the heaviest swords.
Anything heavier is just going for the lulz.
i like both :)
Is there any tactical advantage offered by poofy sleeves?
Never underestimate the psychological power that absolutely styling on niggas grants you, anon
Look good
Fight good
Fight good
Live good.
Let's everyone know you're a badass.
its kino because..... ummm... b-because it randomly references irl historical or religious thing!!!
why do weebs run on this retarded line of reasoning about everything? why cant you just admit that you have the mind of a 12 year old boy and only like babys first pseud ethno-religious symbolism?
no fat chicks
Based
video games are just like real life and you better not forget that when designing them or choosing what you like. *rocket jumps away*
What are u a casul?
I prefer rule of cool. I don't care how practical or accurate a weapon is in fiction. If it looks cool that's all that matters
There is a place for over the top designs. Mostly in anime and anime games. That's why I love Dark Souls because you have historically accurate weapons and anime shit together in one game.
As someone interested in historical weapons, seeing unrealistic shit just hurts my immersion. Yes it's fantasy, but unless it somehow states that some figures have superhuman strength or some materials are extremely light, it simply doesn't fit. It's like if your normal everyday character suddenly threw boulders in combat or carried a whole boat.
uh it makes no sense we just thought it's cool
all asian writing and design is like that and it's retarded
nier's "philosophy" was basically naming some characters after dead european pseuds who complain about life
I agree, and it reaches a point where something is so silly it stops being cool. i.e. Anime twink with giant sword
I love warhammer fantasy because it has both
I enjoy both designs though realistic weapons are usually empire only
That is what most RPG characters would look like when you minimax all your gear and show their inventory.
The more you say the clearer it is you have no idea what you are talking about.
Name five anime twinks with giant swords, anon.
I've seen people theorize that they make it harder to judge your arm movements, but until people either do some testing or find a period source I'm gonna doubt that.
all asian writing and design is like that and that's why they still produce cool shit
Correct, anon.
the point is that its not cool when the manlet twink guy with zero muscles and testosterone wields a massive fuckhuge 205lbs paddle
I-IS THAT?!?!?!? GATSU'S SWORD!?!?! OMIGAWD THE SWORD FROM MY FAVORITE ANIME EVER!??!!?
sword swings slow as shit
berserk "fans" still lose their mind over it regardless
Hate these fake ass fans clapping for their wide shit sword that can't even be wielded like how Guts does.
Polearms are more kino anyways
It's not so much about realism as it about taste vs tastelessness. Gaudy weapons look dumb. Grounded designs look cool. Very rarely is the opposite true. Unless you are tasteless. It's like Demon Souls vs Kingdom Hearts.
The realism one looks cooler tho.
I don't care how practical or accurate a weapon is in fiction. If it looks cool that's all that matters
I do actually agree with this sentiment. The problem is that I don't think surfboard swords look cool.
They're the entry fragger IRL, let them have whatever skins they want.
i'd say Nier is just basic existentialism but all those philosopher names were robots trying to emulate humanity and doing a bad job at it, that part's intentional
oh yeah, do you happen to work at a factory of weapons for superstrong people? are you talking from experience, did you watch historical youtubers talking about real cases of people with superstrength being better off with weapons specifically designed for normal people massively weaker than them? is that the reason demolition machines and tunnel excavators mount regular iron swords? after all their massive strength doesn't need anything else to be fully exploited. fucking retard.
yeah its a truly weird obsession they have. must be some form of cope for the inadequate, uncreative minds. i swear 90% of japs just open up some european historical atlas and just randomly slap their finger at a random word or picture that they come across and put it in their work.
it's intentionally bad so it's ok
here's my sword
its made from the severed spine of our beloved Creator
mmmmmmMetal as fuck
reading comprehension
i see how you did not understand nier
meanwhile dark souls logic:
can barely swing a claymore/zweihander
but have no problem lifting a cuckzerk sword off the ground despite weighing hundreds of kg
Polearms are more kino
Guns with bayonets are the most kino, so yeah.
get hit by a sword
survive
"cool!"
get shot by a gun
survive
"wtf that makes no sense"
why are fantasyfags like this
well i guess in their defense it's like those people who get tattoos of chinese/japanese characters just because they look cool. Still I'd expect a writer to delve a bit deeper into the meanings so that it's coherent instead of treating it like a tattoo or car sticker
come on now, anon... im not a weeb so i dont know shit about this but one google image search gave me infinite results. its definitely a massive trope and cliche
Who are you quoting?
this, warhammer has overly opulent weapons for some of the factions but they usually look close enough to a practical weapon that they look cool. Absurd shit like the daedric sword in skyrim look dumb because they don't do their function (be sharp to cut things).
is so retarded he can't understand his own sentences
I hate it when said colossal weapons don't FEEL like colossal weapons. Case in point, Code Vein. The greatswords are bigger than the player model yet they swing them as if they are made of foam. They don't even have a satisfying sound design to them.
muskets were fucking 50 cal
That guy got fucking huge later on. Like he is still a midget, but he is almost wider than he is tall.
it's like those people who get tattoos of chinese/japanese characters just because they look cool
sure but the level of prevalence of some retarded dudebro getting that tattooed on his arm in 2004 compared to modern japanese literature and media in general just a shallow lifting of a western concept is huge.
and?
that's a (You) problem
is it? it's the same obsession people have with any mythology in the world. occultism is interesting and contains a lot of insight into the cultures that created myths and religions. SMT is pretty big on that in particular.
It'd probably be better if each category of upgrade had its own xp bar and various monsters that contribute to it. From there, just have the XP scale with the difficulty of the monster to encourage going after tougher monsters.
Based frog
Dark Souls 1, 2 ,3
Falchion
is actually a scimitar
Scimitar
is actually a falchion
Fuuuuck
XIa, XII, XVI and XVIII master race
holy shit taste
who is more screwed in gaming? spearchads or us fencingchads? weebs cant into this shit so nip devs refuse to humor any of us, and western devs are obsessed with the longsword aragorn hero archetype so we are screwed there aswell.
reading this thread during lunch
overhead speakers start playing "Separate Ways"
Kino
I think that is mostly a balancing thing, but hopefully now that SotE introduced light greatswords as a class of weapons it will be better in the next game
if the whole reason you think this isn't cool is "because it's unrealistic" then you're not following the rule of cool
What a shitty cat you have, my fat cat is 6,5kg and growing.
posts the sexiest juiciest looking swords ever
"konichiwa fellow weebs this fucking sucks actually!!!"
Yeah, that's right. And they can't use the language barrier cope either because translations are great nowadays and you don't have to read Aristotle in Ancient Greek or Latin. Maybe it's because Asians are so overworked and their society discourages individualism, so they have no time nor patience for true personal development (reading books, asking deep questions, etc.) and must cope with it through pseudointellectualism (surface level discussions). Or maybe the racist take is more appropriate here.
I want a game with this aesthetic
Light one handed sword
No shield
Zero armor
Fencers look retarded. They just aren't COOL enough.
the Messer in ER also has the wrong guard on it
you're a pseud
Nice projection. I have literally no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Nice ad hominem, zero logic.
i see the Chinese found the thread eh
Unfortunately your fate lies in fromsoft souls games. They're the only ones that really cover a lot of historical weapon types.
just in time
nigger you have posted this multiple times
start a reddit thread
accusing me of what you're guilty of
looks like a dildo
Nah, this is still the dumbest weapon design in JRPGs. It's only "saving grace" are the transformations in the Data Xehanort fight.
nope, I'm not a retard who rejects realism simply because he saw pic rel online
Never restricts your movements.
maybe you should address who you're actually talking to and what was being said instead of dismissing it with an image that said something you didn't like
I accept your concession.
Wanna know how i know that you're a 17 year old 135 lb white boi from Omaha?
actually I get the last post
get some funko pops to go with your marvel shit nigger
That's where you're wrong!
check em
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Stone age weapons are real neato
To be fair historians are just "trust the science" dyels, except their particular hardon is for trying to make you believe everybody important was black or poly relationship
stone age
used past the 1500s
does the new world really
they really (because they're fucking low iq savages who were basically demons from hell living in cities strewn with corpses and entrails)