All vidya devs should unionize. Change my mind

All vidya devs should unionize. Change my mind

inb4 idpol divide & conquer

They should unionize. So should you. You deserve better pay and healthier working conditions.

i deserve better games, now go put the fries in the fucking bag

If anything this probably has more to do with them trying to protect themselves from layoffs

Non-unionized work is how we got to Overwatch and Overwatch 2 in the first place, Anon.

le protect people

from what?
they get paid for their job
do a shitty job and you get laid off and replaced with countless jeets and fresh grads on linkedin
I think it's fair

make your own studio like the e33 guy if you’re so talented

putting a target on your back.

protect themselves from layoffs

???
Not really. They just do it later by sweeping it under the rug with other things like economic downturn or everyone else laying people off. This is how Kickstarter got rid of their union members.

YOUR GAME FUCKING SUCKS

I hope this happens, most of them probably think it's funny to see blue collar wagies get replaced with cheap labor.

Progamming code, hardware, and infrastructure should be nationalized and all labor should be unionized

Capitalism is what ruins everything (besides what's ruined by patriarchy)

All these Americans pretending unions and communism are the same thing

You niggas have unions too. Many that are very good, especially for trade jobs.

Just now unionizing in the collapse

Do they think blizzard will still have to pay them when they shut down overwatch?

having a healthy work force is communism

this is why your country is failing in real time and you’re the entire world’s laughing stock

no stop you can't just tax wealthier people to pay poorer people!!

Get fucked lol

Universal basic income and an end to the consumerist delusion of infinite growth and infinite stuff

And you'll get that UBI and shift against infinite growth how? Andrew Yang didn't do too hot sadly.
In the meantime really all that can be done is a mob mentality unionization.

*goes on strike because a member's troon oc doesn't get put in game*

At least we will see Activision die

Very high effort seethe post.

The end stage of mob mentality unionization is rolling out the guillotine for people like Musk and there's your UBI seed fund. The harms of wealth inequality necessarily result in violent blowback. Socialism is the only answer to the crises that are already in motion but that inevitably is held back by the fascist deep state of American empire.

It should be illegal to unionize. It's an inconvenience to the customer, and the customer is always right. If you want better pay then you have to earn it. If you don't like the working conditions you can just find another job. Workers really need to stop being a bunch of crybabies and be grateful for what their employers generously give them.

Unions are based cause they make rightcels seethe for some reason.

who is "The People" ?

If workers don't like how a corporation is treating them, they can just get another job instead of being a bunch of crybabies.

You're right, why ever try to fix anything?

blizzard a greedy,dishonest, lying, game ruining company is facing backlash and losing money because of it

and it's the Overwatch team out of all game teams

We should be celebrating this

fixing means doubling down

Feel free to pack up and leave onto one of the warring states out there.

Why do Americans seethe about worker rights?

Just figured out that the reason Anon Babble had such an insane idea of what unions are is because they've never had a job.

No no I agree, never try to fix anything and just leave, which is why you should just kill yourself.

How much harder must the games be catered to streamers than they already are to you?

We're unionizing!

"And how will this improve my video games?"

Video games?

obsessed with suicide

You niggas have unions too

I'm against them too. Postal unions result in your mail ending up in a ditch. Police unions result in arresting taxpaying white families for retarded blue laws instead of actual criminals. Teachers unions result in your daughter learning about sodomy instead of something wholesome like cooking and your son becoming a straight F student delinquent.

See you're not leaving, hypocrite.

You're voting for wars faggot. I just want to play video games. Who's the hypocrite here?

I had to suffer so you should too!

This is what happens when your parents, who should love you, backstab you and kick you out at 18 so they can push away generations of inheritance.

you should le quit instead of le fixing le problems

continues to argue instead of leaving

Being a code monkey or a "designer" or whatever other position in video game development is not a marketable skill, you can be replaced with ease by tens of millions of other people.
If your job description doesn't involve literally putting yourself in harm's way, wearing your body down, and building important shit, you have no right to unionize.
There isn't a single white collar profession that can benefit from having a union, and having a union further devolves the productivity of an already shitty corporate environment.

And if you have a skill and level of performance that makes you indispensable, there is no need for you to be in a union; your boss will either go out of his way to keep you around because you individually proved your value, or you can choose to fuck off at will and get a new job instantly. Union fucks will just drag you down and make your merit meaningless.

>you should le quit instead of le fixing le problems

Your narrative is showing warmonger.

I mean MS is firing 6k~ people, not too surprising some are in the gaming section. It happening at all is kinda odd when you factor in MS's 80 billion yearly profit tho, admittedly when a company has >220k employees firing like 2% isn't really a big thing for the company.

See

At the end of WWII, oligarchal interests in the US represented by people like the Dulles brothers forged a system of collaboration with defeated fascist groups across Europe and especially organizations like Reinhard Gehlen's spy network. While a major component of this cooperation was to establish the stay behind armies as for Operation Gladio in Italy, there were also domestic effects asserted by the fascist collaboration. The Red Scare was part of this and demonstrates the importation of Nazi anti-communist propaganda that is especially relevant since it is resurgent in the American right today. That's not a coincidence either Donald Trump is the successor of Roy Cohn who was a villain during that first drive to turn Americans toward fascism. Cohn's most infamous for using illegal tricks to turn a treason trial into a public lynching of a Jewish couple.

Americans seethe about worker rights because they are fascist pigdogs from birth

no argument

Thanks for admitting that you have a narrative. You wouldn't admit that you have one if no one pointed it out warmonger.

See

I have no idea what you are on about. I'd never pay blizzard a single cent, they make games that are bad on purpose. But watching Anon Babble kvetch about unions and regurgitate cold war era propaganda is pretty funny.

This is good because there's a chance they could go on strike and stop fucking up Overwatch.

OK, how about a personal anecdote then? My mother was a member of a retail workers union before she retired. What did this union do when she reported unsafe working conditions at her job to them? Nothing. Unions are corrupt mafia institutions that you're forced to pay money into. They don't protect workers, that's a lie.

muh union

I doubt this will gonna fix this dumpster excuse of game.

Game?

That is what blizzardrones keeps calling it, you cunt

It's especially pathetic that your meaningless anecdote is about your mom lol

devs shud unionize my dick with theyre asshole lol

just about every insane decision you see is the result of a suit wanting to make 1% more money, from cancelling nearly complete games, to putting $25 skins out the ass.

anarchists

lmao

Yeah but all corporations mistreat workers by default. That's why before unions and worker rights, you didn't have things like 5 day work weeks, breaks, vacation, worker safety policies, etc.
You also had businesses using slaves in the past.
Basically they only care about money

Regular people also get taxed

You're not allowed to do anything unless it benefits me, the end customer. If unionizing results in any problems on my end, I don't want it and will actively fight against it.

It's been probably years since I last entered this board, is it now leftist?

direction brained

Capitalism has achieved women conscription more than the entire Joan de Arc's body counts combined.

divide & conquer

Leftoids already did that, now you reap what you sow.

now go put the fries in the fucking bag

Speaking of, imagine how bad customer service will be, compared to how insanely bad it is now, when the Mcworker has extra protections to be even lazier than they currently are.

Yeah but all corporations mistreat workers by default.

If this were actually true, nobody would work for them.

you didn't have things like 5 day work weeks, breaks, vacation

Good companies that stayed in business did though. Henry Ford provided all of those things without the government forcing him to because he found it made his workers more efficient. This isn't the Soviet Union or prison labor, you're free to leave a job that gives you terrible benefits.

worker safety policies

So they can force you to wear safety equipment and fire you that slows you down/impedes your job? More government overreach.

You also had businesses using slaves in the past.

If they're paid, they're not slaves. If they can quit, they're not slaves.

but prison labor

Inmates willingly work so they can have fresh air and marketable skills when they get out instead of rotting inside a jail cell 24/7. And they're paid sufficiently, a prisoner has no use for minimum wage when to only thing he can buy is cups of ramen.

Basically they only care about money

A business that doesn't care about money is one that fails. Game companies that tried to push a political agenda through DEI/ESG go broke. No shit, Sherlock.

I don't give a shit about the developers' lives. If it were up to me, they'd be in complete slavery with no rights and making video games 24/7.

I remember in my mcwagie days there was a nigger who got caught shitting in the pickle container.
Too bad there wasn't a union to prevent his unfair termination.

OW2 is so bad they're going to fire a lot of people.
That's why they're unionizing.

how exactly is Overwatch so good at making me not play it and play at the same time? Of course this means that I am in a limbo of not playing it for like 5 years already until I decide on whether to play it.... but its bullshit.

Its only competitor is fucking itself up right now.

Henry Ford provided all of those things without the government forcing him

Ford was a fascist cunt who used strikebreakers lol

some day i will probably decide if i want to play it again but until then i guess i will not play it.

i like fascists.

Well yeah, you're such a loser that you've debased yourself to become a bootlicking dog in hopes you might one day get scraps fed to you since you'll never achieve anything on your own

This can only result in good things.

union workers step it up a bit (unlikely)

better product

union workers get lazy

Blizzard has to either fire them all or accept that one of their departments is going to be shit(tier) from now on

This piece of shit has 200 people working on it?

Listen you don't need to make an excuse to sneak in gay communism, you can just do it openly now.

See You're not owed male exclusive draft anymore.

in the news next month:
Overwatch shuts down

I'd prefer men to be banned from militarism entirely lol
All female police and armies. Let's draft girls at 3 years old, train them until they're 9, and then let the 10-20 year old girls run society as functionaries for the 20+ year old women who are officers, heads of state, etc.

Men are a pointless excess that drains resources for no reason

Union won't stop that.

Go migrate here and make your dream come true.

This is retarded
Why would you want to save troon lives?

Collective bargaining is literally the only way a team can feasibly say No to it, but you are correct in that decision making needs to be fully in the hands of the workers in order to prevent it, and a worker co-op is required. Still, unions are a crucial first step for waking people up.

Unions are a waste of time, if you think about it, because if you are too slow for bossman's liking, you'll get fired anyways no matter what any union says and this is really the only thing that matters, keeping your job. What other reason is there for a union to exist? Why bother paying your union fees if bossman decides you're shit at your job and fires you anyways? Then you're just kind of wasting your money, aren't you?

Let me update on my post Now that is how you do a worker union lmao.

gomulism

burgeristan trans army

videogames

Chud brains need to be studied.

And that's not gonna happen because any company can legally fire anyone if they please in the west. All they have to say is that the worker sucked and was costing them money and that's that. It's like that in america and it's like that in europe. It's even like that in the king of the socialist countries, france. Therefore, unions are a total waste of time and money, since they utterly fail in doing their one and only job.

I still have not decided on playing Rivals too... somehow Overwatch killed the whole hero shooter thingy for me. TF2 was good. That was it really.

See Lobotomize yourself.

99% of unions nowadays are retarded dogshit for lazy, shit workers. If you're actually a good employee you dont need a union.

Why bother paying your union fees

Yeah, and now we have to shoot our way out of the nigger-loving capitalist system as well.

Almost as if there is no point in conscription without declaring that it is going to be profitable beforehand, don't you think?

Living in a capitalist-aligned society is not an excuse for being an asshole. Businesses are obligated to treat their own kind with dignity and respect.

You deserve better pay and healthier working conditions.

Why?

Businesses are obligated to treat their own kind with dignity and respect.

Too bad wars are businesses and you all recognize women conscripting nations as a legitimate states.

unionized so they can't be fired for their love of breast milk anymore

based.

I'm sure boss Goldberg will appreciate you coming to his assistance, he'll still fire you but he won't directly spit in your face while doing it

I see you conveniently didn't respond to the other stuff i wrote. Curious.

That doesn't answer my question

you deserve it because you unionize and demand it, then you get it

why are they ionized in the first place

Why do I deserve something because I unionize and demand it?

unionize

That is shortly followed by unemployment, I give them a year before they get sacked

Forming an union around a dead game

Bold move cotton, let's see if it plays out.

I assume all unions have mob ties.

ow probably has around 100k player active at any time
30k on steam that we know of and 70k split between console and bnet sounds reasonable to me, that's far from dead

They should unionize. So should you. You deserve better pay and healthier working conditions.

First of all take this shit to Anon Babble NIGGER

Secondly: Mass deporting all the shitskins would fix my pay and work conditions because I'd no longer be competing against third world slaves and the value of my labor would be higher and employers would be forced to meet me on my terms.

Mass deporting all the shitskins would fix my pay and work conditions because I'd no longer be competing against third world slaves and the value of my labor would be higher and employers would be forced to meet me on my terms

You just can't do that saaar

Daily reminder: Unions, especially in the USA are just a neutered version of mutual aid societies.
It used to be that there was a fraternity for everything and everyone, Lumberjacks, Black Quakers, whatever you were, there was an aid society for you that you could pay due to and get all sorts of welfare services like health care, education, orphanages, elderly care, oh yeah, and negotiating power with your employer.
Funny how the second these fraternities were regulated out of existence the idea of unions started popping up.

Thus, I think that unions are ultimately pointless so long as regulations exists that deter real free market principles.

because it makes no sense. the boss would fire you without a union anyway.

according to a dev, the reason why PvE went nowhere is cause Bobby forced the team to chase trends which kept setting them back, a union would come in and say "yeah we aren't doing that unless XYZ happens"

transgenders are too precious, too valuable to be apart of the military

Fascism means decentralized banking faggot. It means less conscription and more about exploring other options, like a sanction free plague warfare such as COVID.

so you agree that aid societies were a good thing
and that they were regulated out of existence
and that the only people benefiting from this were corporations
so why oppose unions then? Even a neutered version is still better than no version at all, and it's not like the people who got rid of fraternities are suddenly going to say "yes we want them back"

Just fire all the trannies who unionized, replace them with MAGAtards who think unions are communism, and save the video games industry.

this is Anon Babble, every board is leftist until the Anon Babbletards show up and BTFO them with hate facts, racist logic, and mansplaining evidence
then the leftists suicide because their ideas are always so stupid even Anon Babbletards can ruin them just by existing

t. europoor pretending to know american labor laws

if unions didn't work, they would have stopped existing years ago. now this requires AAA vidya publishers to actually fund and not put the most insane jeet/kike managers on projects

Why do corporations hate unions but participate in lobbies?

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lmao

I am the consumer. it is in my best interest for employees who make the products I consume to be whipped harder and paid less, so the products I consume can be provided to be more frequently and more cheaply.

lobbies allow them to screw over people, unions prevent them from screwing over people, pretty simple

Unions can suck my hairy fucking cock

protect people

people don't deserve jack shit, people should just die instead

Well get to it.

It means less conscription

LOL
Fascism thrives on the enslavement of the populace as workers and soldiers while the elite cultivate pretensions. Fascism means everything is centralized on wealth and violence.

everyone knows concentrating all the wealth into the CEO's pockets results in the best products!

grrrr those DAMN ceo's again... I HATE ceo's

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