Why did public consensus on this change so fast...

Why did public consensus on this change so fast? It went from being regarded as one of the best JRPGs of all time to being seen as just an inferior version of Persona without any of the soul or je ne sais quoi

I always said it was mediocre.
Quit halfway in.

There's no romance and no larping as a cute Japanese schoolboy/girl/twink.

It lost to and got raped by Expedition 33

Source?
It literally won GOTYs and has overwhelmingly positive reception.
It's been a year since, and now Exp33 is continuing the trend of classic JRPG games' return.

If anything, what you're saying sounds like a manufactured seeth campaign of Squeer-Enix's cucks.

99% of persona discussion is waifu wars. Metaphor didn't have romance and didn't give mommy hulky an ass so no one wants to talk about it.

one and done

no romance, half the appeal of persona was banging your waifu or dating your teacher or quadruple-timing all of the women on your squad

Protagonist has no sauce, no charizzma. He looks like a fuckin nerd. Like it or not, he exists in the shadow of Persona 5's Joker, despite not being part of the Persona/SMT franchise.

Reminder this piece of absolute garbage was #1 last year, while actual masterpieces like Astro Bot weren't even in the top 10.

Just a reminder in case you still weren't sure that Anon Babble has absolute dogshit taste

RPG starvation. E33 came out and reminded everyone

People sucked it off hard based on some superficial political bias

Any glimmers of hope in its scenario and writing were drowned in metric tons of anime power of friendship bullshittery to attract the Persona audience. I doubt any of the journos jerking off its story actually finished the stupid thing. Still better than Persona because Press Turn > 1 More

No, it is one of the best JRPGs of all time, and it's better than any Persona game. Contrarians just have to contrarian.

I was one of those people who's opinion changed pretty hard on it

At least for me, I think the main reason was the really fun combat and the promise of it's systems, but then when I think back on it, everything about the game just feels really half baked

Like I'll give you an example of something that really bothered me. So the game has it's Not Persona job system right? I thought it was very cool initially how essentially every character can be a wild card and fit into any job. And since you can equip skills from other jobs, you can have a character dip into one job just to get a particular skill to help synergize with a different job. It was like taking the Persona system but adding a ton of extra build variety for every single character
But the only issue is that, just like Persona, every character has an Ultimate tier job for their starting classes that they can only get by hard focusing on their primary jobs throughout the game. Sure you COULD build Strohl as a mage if you wanted to, but why the fuck would you ever do that when A) his stats suck for it and B) I'd be shooting myself in the foot by not going down his main path?
It completely ruins the whole premise of the job system and basically makes the whole thing just a spicy version of what Persona already has with every character sticking to their main path

And I hate to be one of those guys, but Expedition 33 really did make me realize some other ways that Metaphor was lacking. Like Metaphor was in development for half a decade at least, how the FUCK do they only have like 2 battle themes. You're telling me some random AA French studio can make an 8 hour soundtrack for their first ever game with every dungeon having multiple battle themes, and fucking Atlus can only make 2 themes? No that's just shit and they dropped the ball

because Atlus' fans are a loud bunch, and the weight of journo's opinions wont last long when most of them didn't even finish the game

ugly art style, ugly and boring characters, half baked mediocre combat, bad story. people just saw atlus and creamed their pants. ten years from now it will be forgotten and obscure.

I'm towards the end of the game and holy fuck the game really shits itself after You give the fake lance to Louis

Whoever the fuck wrote the quadruple plot twist is a fucking hack and ruined the entire setup and world building, its so sad the game was doing so well.

Now the game feels empty I'm just farming dungeons and talking to bonds not really hyped for the duel Louis setup

The ultimate versions of Jobs are neither optimal nor required. Like any jobs game the appeal is that you can beat the game with whatever jobs you want. Second of all if what you're interested is combat and build variety why not just play SMT VV which completely blows away any other JRPG in that department, Metaphor is more complex than Persona but it's still watered down SMT. All three aforentioned games are light years better than E33.

Speaking of the Royal Archetypes, they only unlock on the penultimate dungeon in the final month of the game. You have like 10 hours to actually use them.

Aggressive astroturfing by E33 shills.

???
Who said that? It is a goty, regarded as one hell of a rpg, not the best but an amazing one, you're just spreading misinformation for the sake of ragebaiting people. Shame on you

not the fp

losing your touch gramps

Astro Bot is for faggots and only retards who exclusively play games on PS praised it. “OMG it’s a real game!” Ponies really forgot Sony USED to make those.

Nah, it's as good as Mario Galaxy, which is the best of the 3D Marios.

Anon Babble's best games

top 1s are all hated by Anon Babbletards.

what?

Consensus didn't change. It doesn't have romance, so it couldn't sustain the years of minimum-level discussion that persona normally garners through waifu posting and waifu wars.

It went from being regarded as one of the best JRPGs of all time to being seen as just an inferior version of Persona without any of the soul or je ne sais quoi

That's what it always was, that's what Anon Babble said it was too but Anon Babble was disregarded as being "Salty chuds" upset at the new wave of Woke in Japanese gaming.

This is, in fact, how all gaming is now, gay pieces of shit get free passes to be pieces of shit, treated as royal gold, purely because people like pic related write articles about how it 'owns the chuds'. Only years later after these journalists move on do people realize that they were full of shit/it's allowed to call them full of shit without catching a ban on 99% of the internet.

trvke.

Like Metaphor was in development for half a decade at least, how the FUCK do they only have like 2 battle themes. You're telling me some random AA French studio can make an 8 hour soundtrack for their first ever game with every dungeon having multiple battle themes, and fucking Atlus can only make 2 themes? No that's just shit and they dropped the ball

That's wildly entitled to me. You're retroactively getting mad at a game because they only used two battle themes when some other game chose to use more? That's mentally-ill.

holy this

Meanwhile Anon Babble immediately recognizes E33 as a masterpiece.

E33 dropped and it proved Metaphor was just mid all along.

Tried to be a JRPG with deep team building

No incentive to do anything but the same builds

Physical builds are all the same

By the time magic builds can become interesting you are already at the end of the game

Tried to be a JRPG about building bonds

No romance

dialogue options matter less than any other Atlus game

Tried to have a cool tournament plot device

99% of the participants are non-important

The plot tries to take you away from the tournament as much as possible until they just say fuck it and ditch it to rush to the end of the game

The only hype moment on the game is when you unironically actively participate in the tournament

Heavily advertised the feeling of a grand adventure and how cool it felt that you traveled along with your companions and that you will have to plan your days to travel and do quests

Fast travel is introduced, most dungeons are 1-2 days to travel to

Removed all worries about managing your days or having to worry about having to backtrack

neither game's praise were organic

Humiliated by E33.

yeah it just feels like...they took 8 years to make this? seriously?

To me it feels like someone on the business side wanted them to play safe or they are actually hacks that can't think of anything but persona with a twist.

no it was in development since 2019 after catherine full body.
the fact that hashino made 90% new team and it feels and plays like persona compared to persona 3 reload (p5r team) is crazy

Same. It was obviously astroturfed by shills at the time.

P5, P4, and P3 were woke too.
All SMT games aren't christian friendly so they are woke too.

Atlus games have always been overpriced.

Only recently. P3R and SMTVV are indeed not worth the asking price, but that does not, inductively, means that every single Atlus game ever released has never been worth the price. P4G is like $20, which is a fitting price.

I've heard this game's story sucks but I'm too lazy to watch a recap video on yt, can someone tl;dr it for me?
I mean just by looking at screenshots I can already sense it's the most generic fantasy jrpg shit, I swear to god if they just recycled the shitty "twists" from another 15 year old game of theirs I'm going to lose my mind.

fucking retard
every other Atlus has had more than 2 fight themes
how the fuck is that entitlement?

Persona games will always be vilified and rejected by the woke crowd until they have same sex romance and female protagonists

It was confirmed mid and forgettable the moment they removed romances.

i think having no romance killed the longevity of this game's discussion on Anon Babble, its still popular with more reddit-oriented audiences. But since theres no waifufaggotry, theres just no need to discuss it further.

Your boyfriend got cursed and is bed ridden, after years of not understanding how to lift the curse your group that is loyal to your boyfriend who is the prince decided the best way to fix it is to kill the caster which is a guy that just likes wars and wants to cull the weak, but you cannot kill it because your boyfriends dad passed away and now his magic is doing real time voting and anyone popular enough with the people gets anti-assassination magic casted on them, which gets one of the leaders of your rebel group killed in broad daylight, most people are retarded and think the dude that wants to kill 99% of the people is fit to be king for no reason. After joining a random tournament that gets ditched and didn't matter at all at the end you kill the baddy, but then the curse isn't lifted so you reason that the church leader is the bad guy that cursed the prince, but then he dies because the original bad guy faked his death, so you think you were right but then some random girl that only appeared 3 times for a total of 5 minutes in the last 50 hours is actually the one that casted the curse, she then kills herself and you go kill lucifer

I never got the hype around it when it released. It's not a bad game, but it's nothing really new. It's another Atlus game without the waifus and a fantasy setting. The protagonist is boring and none of the side characters are worth remembering. The game is way too long for what it is, I don't think anyone actually finished it (I didn't).

That's how fandom types are like nowadays.
You saw the same flip when Soul Hackers 2 and P3 Reload came out.
nu-Atlus fans are overzealous shrimp brains. They'll go from screaming "Peak!" to never bringing up the said "peak" ever again.

The marketing campaign stopped

no romance is only one symptom to a greater diagnosis

Adachi will forever have discussions about him, there is literally nothing to talk about Louis as the game kills off any intrigue he could have had.

Only shills/bots post in those spam threads

The first half of the game is a solid basis for the foundation of a good game which the second half fumbles hard. The problems with the job system, the writing, the characters, the lack of music diversity, the pacing, it all comes to a head and by the time you complete it, you can't help but just look back at the rest of the game as half baked and squandering it's potential. I honestly felt like the game had nothing worthwhile to say in the end. Louis was another boring chaosfag in the end, and they leave the ending open ended in case they want to make a sequel down the line. It felt empty, shallow, and lacking in conviction in the end, which is quite funny for a game that is attempting to appear political in nature.

why does “general opinion” of [corporate product] suddenly change several months after it’s released

Because paid astroturf is the primary form of marketing and said marketing campaigns don’t last very long, as even though jeets cost nothing, no one is going to pay them to shill something forever. When various game awards start happening you’ll see the marketing start up again.

I'm talking about normal player optimal here, not meta game optimal for a single player RPG. I'm sure there's some cheese setup or strats that people have figured about, but from my perspective playing through the game I see more character get a suped up Ultimate version of their class, of course that is going to feel like what I should go towards
As for

Why Not just play SMT

I'm not really into SMT's demonology goobldygook with little emphasis on plot. I don't see why it has to be an either or situation here. Why not give Metaphor, a game with a setting and plot I enjoy more than SMT a better fleshed out job system? Just cause SMT exists isn't a valid excuse
And you're entitled to your own opinion but I enjoyed Expedition 33 better than both P5 and Metaphor. Saying they're "lightyears" better is certainly off base

To even get to the Royal Archetypes you have to have been working on their Primary classes throughout the game. It's not something you can just suddenly dip your toes into. By the time I even unlocked them most of my characters had barely dipped into any other classes than the ones the Royal Archetypes required because that's what it took to get their normal unlocked jobs anyway

Entitled

Do you even know what that word means? It's not entitled to want a JRPG to have more than 2 battle tracks. It bothered me back then too but I gave Atlus the benefit of the doubt that idk maybe getting an ochestra or some shit is difficult and they could only manage 2 tracks. But now that I've seen some random French studio do it I realize that was retard and of course I should hold one of the premier JRPG developers to a higher standard

so if metaphor had an Elliot Rodger antagonist or something, it would still be relevant? Fujos are the bane of my existence.

That sounds super retarded. Does the MC show a modicum of personality at some point in the game or does he have the same dead fish stare for 50 hours?

Come to think of it, every time Atlus has tried to go for a fantasy setting they have churned out mediocrity.

how the fuck is that entitlement?

Because you're condemning a bowl of soup for the choice of music in the restaurant. It's retarded and undermines the game itself, which is the important thing.

It's not entitled to want a JRPG to have more than 2 battle tracks.

It literally is. The music has nothing to do with the game, and it's nonsense to even bring it up.

because it always was Persona without a reason to exist
the "public consensus" was just a bunch of paid shillbots

yes the lack of musical variety undermines the game itself I'm glad you're getting it

yes the lack of musical variety undermines the game itself I'm glad you're getting it

I'm glad you demonstrated your lack of reading comprehension, but I was referring to the complaint trying to undermine the game, not the idea that a lack of music deteriorates the quality of the game.

Every JRPG shits on religion, that doesn't make them woke.

Why can't leftists comprehend atheists who do not align with them politically?

Bingo the left WANTS to like them, but deep down they know Japs don't respect them.

Unironically 2deep4u

by the end metaphor was pretty grounded on its stance about religion with its equivalence to the catholic church being redeemed in the endgame

definition of ad hominem is wrong

definition of contradiction is wrong

definition of counterargument is wrong

your boyfriend

die fujo

Still my favourite game of the generation so far

I still won't buy it until the Atlus cashgrab """remaster""" comes out in the next few years. Until then, I refuse to let this DEI shit with 'tolerance' and some jew elfenBURG take up any of my mental space.

Does anyone else feel like Will and the party just come off kinda stale and soulless, lacking any real dynamic, and that is why the game hasn’t really connected with people?

I honestly think characters are the heart and soul of any JRPG because they can make or break the whole thing. But the main character in Metaphor is just a boring, one note goody two shoes and he is not even good looking. It is kinda funny to enter into multiple Metaphor threads and barely see anyone even mention him.

ill buy metaphor integrade on switch 2. IF its not a stupid game key card

I'm not even against the game's politics but I'm entirely convinced that the journo reviews were influenced by it.
It was like they were afraid of being negative on a game that preaches such modern values even though the game forgets about it halfway through.

Then again I'm convinced that most of them didn't even beat the game.
That final boss was absolute CBT and a tanky mess even on easier difficulties that I'm convinced that if they actually fought him that it should be something of note.

yeah the game is pretty chud-coded if you actually finish it and realize the TRUE ambitions of louis

I thought it was pretty great, what's wrong with it?

It had tons of soul, my favorite game of 2024. In general I am glad that turnbased games have such a renaissance.

BECAUSE YOU ARE GULLIBLE LITTLE NPC BRAINWASHED RETARDS WITH NO CRITICAL THINKING

I WAS SAYING THIS SINCE DAY 1
YOU ARE ALL BIASED AND RETARDS

I'll argue that at least P5R feels worth the price. P3R and SMTVV are such poor value that it feels like a scam.
And I feel insane when people can't see that P3R is a visual downgrade from P5R.

P4G is like $20

They are eternally kicking themselves for giving players great value.

The story

The enemy variety

The dungeon quality and variety

Dogshit social links (Worse than P3 somehow)

Horrible visuals

It's impressive if you can't agree with anything I listed.

this theme was awesome actually youtu.be/sM4V7jY28-Q

the story was awesome actually and the social links were awesome actually and the visuals were awesome actually

Over half of the games in the top 10 aren't even available on Switch.

Losing to Joker in a bland protagonist competition is impressive.

Another common complaint is that they want a Persona game set in college because they're sick of the high school setting.
There was a leak recently that said P6 takes place in an "art school" (whatever that means in Japan) so you have a mix of last year high schoolers and college aged students in your party. Sounds fake but that's as far as I expect Atlus to change things up after making the same game for 25 years.

looks like a PS3 game

thats why i like the visuals so much

Anon left out the twist that the prince gets murdered after you fix the curse, and its revealed you are the prince's fantasy, and you then awaken and take the form of the true prince, then go on to face off against the big bad
Also the protagonist has more personality than Atlus protags usually do, and actually talks a bit beyond just the dialogue options.

VV > Metaphor >>>>>>>> Deload

Video games don't need to go beyond PS3 graphics.

It was a good game for a while, but E33 has showed how much better it could have been. Now no one can look back at it and think its good, just decent.

What public consensus?
Shills are not the public consensus, the same thing is already happening with E33, learn to understand what is FOTM and what isn't, falling for propaganda like this is embarassing.

kek I was joking when I asked if Refantazio had the same MC twist as Radiant Historia, jesus fucking christ

Public consensus didn't change at all. Its a single player RPG, you play through it once and then maybe revisit it in 5+ years.
Its still a fantastic game and easily the best of 2024.

Those are botted contest from Google fake accounts where you use VPN and google survey free account to spam votes

The one who post this image is a dishonest retard who should either kill himself and everyone who replied to his image is an actual subhuman low iq ape

Because reviewers liked it because they liked the political themes and early discussion of any hew game is always poisoned by what the retards with review copies had to say.

masterpieces like Astro Bot

Bait used to be believable

It's just ok. It is better than Persona 5 at least, the people who like it only like the first couple dungeons and maybe some of Royal's new content. What other JRPGs was it even competing with at the time?

FFVII rebirth, the better game.

le church is GOOD with BAD PEOPLE in it

when you oust the bad people the guys bending to their will can perform the good deeds the church was meant to

your party of mostly adults go kill satan who's goal was corrupting the souls of people

shouldn't you like this game??

Metaphor is at the very least on par with FFVII, so by proxy its a thousand times better than demake and unbirth.

Metaphor is at the very least on par with FFVII

Not even close. Metaphor is pretty mediocre.

Nah, its pretty great. Would've been a 10/10 of the ending didn't feel rushed, but as it is, its definitely a 9/10.

7/10 feels more appropiate.

I could meet you at 8/10, in which case, its on par with FFVII.

Metaphor is at the very least on par with FFVII

DOOM Eternal

Fine pick

SMTV

Dread should've won, but SMTVV should've won 2024

Elden Ring

SoP should've won

ToTK

Almost every other game there would be a better fit

Metaphor

See SMTV

8/10 is more like "good game with flaws"
7/10 is "not outright terrible, but mediocre"
so 7/10 feels appropiate

Mediocre is 5/10, which is still above the abortion they turned FFVII into.

FFVII remake and rebirth actually have ambition and does stuff well, i wish i could say the same about metaphor.

Metaphor is at the very least on par with FFVII

holy kek

Demake and unbirth are the worst video games released in the past two decades, and there will not be a bigger failure of a game within my lifetime.

What a weird take. The soundtrack is part of the games overall experience. Using your shitty food analogy, if a restaurant was blasting dogshit garage rock while you're trying to eat that would 100% effect your dining experience. You seem to by hyper focused on raw gameplay and nothing else.

another slow as dogshit thread seething about this game when it's supposedly dead buried and forgotten

This the 7th one in 2 weeks

the people who like it only like the first couple dungeons and maybe some of Royal's new content.

This is even more delusional than your metaphor take lmao

Using your shitty food analogy, if a restaurant was blasting dogshit garage rock while you're trying to eat that would 100% effect your dining experience.

If i take the food out to go, then the music should no longer affect how delicious the food is, you blithering fool.

Oh yeah, I had their soup at my house while listening to some classical, but the restaurant blared emo grunge at full volume, so that post-actively made my soup taste like garbage. Couldn't taste it.

P5 and 3 are not worth 60$ they're 25 at most with DLC

SMT VV has multiple playthroughs at least and a NG+ where demons are all capped at 150 there's 0 reason to reply persona games ever

2023 was such a good year they don’t even have LaD Gaiden on it

I get that this post is pure hyperbole but metaphor had the smallest amount of dlc any atlus games has had since they started introducing it

You're batshit insane if you actually believe any of what you just wrote

At that point I guess you can just mute your T.V. and listen to any kind of music you want while playing. Soundtrack is apparently pointless and offers nothing to Anon over here.

lol same. Not getting bamboozled into buying the same game twice at full price ever again.

if I take the food to go

What the fuck is the video game experience equivalent to "taking the food to go" retard? Muting the game completely and pretending you're deaf the whole playthrough is the only valid comparison and I'm guessing you didn't play it that way.

It has Persona's shitty calendar system that fills the game with dead air but it doesn't let me pretend to be a japanese highschooler. I'd rather play SMT.

Fell off a cliff after Martira, story and mechanics-wise. Really boring job system too.

Nope

Metaphor is a game with an actual narrative and themes that it develops trough it (the impact collective anxiety has on the political landscape, the necessity of fantasy in society), while E33 is mystery box bullshit with an intriguing premise that becomes progressively less interesting the more you learn about, it's basically like LOST.

Any criticism you have of Rebirth is moot because Remake shipped and digitally sold 7 million copies when you combine both the original and intergrade versions and include free PS+ downloads as sales.

Nta but persona games have no replay value. Romancing a different waifu or going the harem route in a second playthrough changes nothing about the story so you might as well just watch the cutscenes on youtube because that's not worth repeating hindreds of hours of the same shit. The "bad" ending in P3 is a glorified game over.

Sorry I'm not some faggot larper who needs to self insert into a persona game to pretend to have friends? Social links are the weakest and most pointless part of the games they offer 0 replayability. The combat and dungeons in p3-5 are absolute dogshit the games are a total steamroll with nothing to offer after you finish the game give me any counter point instead of being a retarded nigger

Yup.

Metaphor is a game with an actual narrative and themes that it develops trough it

lol
LMAO

I had a good time, enjoyed talking about it and loving my waifu and then simply decided to move on
Not every game is gonna end up becoming sometimes entire thing, anon

Junah and Haru are both at least a Norwood 3

Stop being such an overly exaggerated drama queen you schizo frekazoid. Demake and unbirth are actually really amazing games.

(me)
Social link rewards, gear, dungeon design, activities in each time period; all followed the same boring, cookie cutter progression.
Even dragon quest throws curveballs and extra mechanics throughout your journey.

Its an atlus game their protagonist are not allowed to be human. We cannot let anonkun not self insert as him

I accept your concession

You don't get the luxury of being talked to like a human until you come up with an opinion that isn't hyperbolic garbage
The irony in this is that persona games are replayed far more and by far more people than SMT has ever been, especially shit like V where you needed to wait 3 years for every playthrough to not be almost virtually identical. And everyone still bitches about it in VV anyway because the number of distinct playthroughs went up from 1 to 2 while leaving the mass effect 3 tier alternate routes intact. And to top it all off, godborn pissed off normal people for being stat bloat garbage and hyper autists for it being piss easy to farm the difficulty away in.
This is why no one gives a fuck about VV anymore and you are stuck here on this board with permanent soft stool trying to convince yourself Persona and Metaphor are shit and disliked instead

FFV is still the best job system JRPG to date.

You don't get the luxury

Stopped reading right there clearly you have no opinion or counter point and are some turbo autist who's whole personality is pretending to be a persona MC let me know when you're done roleplaying as a high schooler and want to have a discussion little man

You're not fooling anyone you read the whole thing

Yes, demake scammed 7 million people and lied about what it actually was. I'm very aware as I was a victim of it.

They are dogshit, even the worst RPG Maker slop you can find for a dollar on steam is better.

It was never regarded as best anything. It's mid by every measurement.

Delusional

I don't give a fucking shit about these Euro-jrpgs

i genuinely despise stuff like materia where any party member can do anything so I enjoyed the fact that party members in metaphor were heavily weighted towards specific roles. The only problem with Metaphor's job system is you got your full party late so unless your MC was mag you don't get access to a good magic user until later.

You can really tell just how extreme a minority the people that don't like this game are in when this exists and the best response someone can come up with for it is that it's tendie's fault when you can't even play this on a switch

Y..you didn't do the thing you said you did y..you did the thing I said you did..

K nigger whatever helps you sleep at night like I said when you're a big boy and ready to give actual talking points rather than seething like a tranny who missed their HRT day let me know

You're coping, it wasn't even good for an Atlus game.

Utterly delusional

Way too desperate
Looking forward to watching you swing from a tree later

It went from being regarded as one of the best JRPGs of all time

By whom?

The protagonist from the post you're replying to (Killian from Crimson Gem Saga) is a self-aware sarcastic asshole to everyone thoughbeit. I mean the game wasn't as funny as the devs imagined it to be, but my point is that Atlus protagonists weren't always meant to be blank self-inserts.

there have been several threads listing this game's flaws one by one on this board. And i don't that you can use the minority argument when this game only sold 1m copies, and most of these people are atlus fans who would buy anything atlus vomits anyway

party members in metaphor were heavily weighted towards specific roles

Eh, not really. You had suggestions based on what they start with, but you're really gimping yourself if you keep them in those roles. You can (and should) swap them into being anything you want. Even out of the royals, Heismay has the only truly good one that no one else can replicate, other than equipping an accessory, but since royal thief has it as a passive, Heismay effectively gets two accessory slots in a sense.

this game only sold 1m copies

Holy cope

but it did wth

You're delusional if you think the game never got any sales past it's first week.

First day* lmao

link?

It must be depressing being as outspoken as the anti-metaphor retards on this board

Japan liked top more than bottom

Prolly because the top rarely looked like that and the bottom also rarely looked like that

Defending the truth against the forces of the dead internet and their retarded organic allies is its own reward. You cannot silence what is self evident.

It was never our FOTM. Atlus didn’t have a big funding operation on Anon Babble/r*ddit so it appeared to “flop”. Expedition 33 has a HUGE marketing budget with tons of advertising on both sites. Its developers can essentially meme it into being GOTY by force of will alone. I get the feeling that Atlus didn’t care that much about the western audience since the catalog wasn’t spammed by advertisers nearly as much. In fact, who’s paying the anti shills?

tackles tough subjects with refreshing nuance

Bitch WHERE is the fucking nuance? The writing is as subtle as a brick to the face. You win political debates by default because your opponents are charicatures and strawmen, not actual villains with backstory and motivation. There's racist stereotypes for each race but every character you meet somehow PROVES every stereotype right, not a single one breaks the mold. The game doesn't even try to explain WHY every tribe is so racist to each other, like historically or anything because the worldbuilding sucks. Not even the bare minimum cookie cutter "bwaa someone from x tribe hurt me in the past so now I'm traumatized and hate everyone from that race".

gamalytic.com/game/2679460
2100 copies sold within the last week. Total copies on just steam now rival the first day million that was the combination of all platforms.

You cannot silence what is self evident

You don't say

Expedition 33 has a HUGE marketing budget

Stopped reading there

You win political debates by default because your opponents are charicatures and strawmen

t. Participated in none of the actual political debates in the game (and probably never played it)
There's more nuance in a nameless NPC saying "what [protagonist] is saying isn't realistic either, but maybe we'll have a better chance if we vote for him" than there is in all of slop 33

The game doesn't even try to explain WHY every tribe is so racist

Yeah cause racism totally needs a reason behind it. Yup, us humans, we've all got super deep lore for why we're racist.

us humans

What breed are you?

White.

You've never had an adult conversation in your life if you think the debates in this shitty game are deep and nuanced

E33 is not a game about politics and racism so it doesn't need to pass your arbitrary criteria, but the characters in it have realistic reactions to the events in the game and their behavior is logically consistent. Which is more than I can say than the cast of Refantazio that act either like negative IQ morons or total Mary Sues depending on what the plot needs at each point.

But what breed are you, though?

Read the catalog.

According to ancestry I'm 50% german and a bunch of other european shit.

The game doesn't even try to explain WHY every tribe is so racist to each other

This is also a lie, off the top of my head

roussiantes hate the clemars because they think they're more worthy of being the ruling race with frustrations stemming from not being the majority

Nidias are hated because they're known as liars stemming from their glamor use

everyone hates the paripus because they're hedonistic and go chasing handouts

elda are hated because of the state religion

all of this stems from how their society was built on an establishment trying to censor information including magic at first with good intentions of preventing another apocalypse from happening

Not an argument

So you're a unknown breed mongrel? Gotcha.

So in other words no you didn't play shit, got it

Why did public consensus on this change so fast?

Enough time elapsed for us to actually play it.

Yeah it changed from being a beloved rpg to being a beloved rpg

Each tribe is BELIEVED to be this or that, but if the game's message is supposed to be that racism is bad because people from specific races are real people and not just stereotypes then it failed miserably. Every nidian is dishonest, evey paripus is lazy, every elda is a zealot. They're not "misunderstood", that's literally all they are. In trying to make an anti-racist game they accidentally made a game that's super fucking racist.

no rebuttal

I accept your concession

Are you retarded or do you not actually know how racism and stereotypes work

Have to make an argument if you want one of those unfortunately

In trying to make an anti-racist game

blame the marketing

He's been posting this for over a year now and no one cared even once

I would feel sorry for you if you were one of those nice folks with brain damage

Do you not actually know how narrative devices work
If you're trying to write a story with a message and your own writing disproves that message you should find a different job.

if the game's message is supposed to be that racism is bad

That's not the message. You fell for the meme.
If Fire Emblem Path of Radiance came out today, retarded normies would also latch onto it and say its so progressive for the racism bad, missing all other aspects of the story.

Anon Babble would call Ike woke if that game came out today

the game disproves itself by showing what part of stereotypes are grounded in reality

You have a drooling 9 year old's understanding of both of these ideas

im not the schizo you're thinking of. The marketting and review outlets clearly indicated that the game was abuot diversity or whateve. But if you actually played the game to the end you would understand that the game delves into the (peril)s of diversity and challenges it at some points with questioning about whether or not humans can integrate and even having characters like heismay STAY racist towards other races.

It literally is about diversity. It's just not pretending you can solve every problem with it using magic blue hair dye

Every nidian is dishonest

They're not dishonest in an inherently negative way. They're hiding their appearance to prevent more prejudice against them

every paripus is lazy

Fidelio, Basilio and Catherina aren't lazy

every elda is a zealot

We meet two in the game and they happen to be the main protagonist and antagonist

In contrast it never shows what parts of the stereotypes are false or exaggerated though. Literally not a single time. The point of stereotypes irl is that while part of it is based on real experiences some of it is just unwarranted prejudice and fear-mongering. Atlus writers forgot the second part because they suck at their job.

true, but the marketting was pushing a pro diversity message but the actual game isnt totally like that

im just waiting for the super re:Re fanatsy version to play it

JRPGs are glorified waifu simulators.

"public consensus = some retard pajeets on Anon Babble"

lmao kill yourself

There's no romance

Wrong. Pic related is canon.

It's overrated, definitely, but it's a good "baby's first JRPG".

they're more like glorified movie-games actually

entirely made up numbers

you will give me the source.

All the ones hiding underground are decent people too. Elda don't have a single trait like the other ones do which he would know if he played the game which he all but admitted he didn't. The church only mandated eldan racism in the first place to suppress knowledge of magic from the old world when in reality they were highly responsible with it.

tpbp

rule34(dot)xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=12143390&tags=eupha_(metaphor:_refantazio)

holy mid, thank you anyway

Visual design is key for entry level weebs.

Metaphor hasn't really gotten a whole lot of good porn. Another sign that the game isn't all that it is cracked up to be compared to Persona. It's a solid 6 or 7/10 if you like Atlus IMO.

Why would a non-coomer game get a ton of porn over a coomer series

there's no porn so it sucks

and here we are at the end of the line of cope when shitting on the game every other way didn't work

nah theres tons of good metaphor porn

Yeah. Good point. Compared to Persona it's very dry to say the least.
I would say massive amounts of porn is actually a very good tell if something is popular or not.
Post some. :)

Wasn't Atlus on the verge of bankrupcy for years before P5? How long until they find themselves in that situation again?

Post some. :)

no thats gross, also persona has like 6 different games and it took until
like 2020 for persona 5 to get tons of porn

most of persona's porn is garbage tier rape/ntr shit thoughbeit

I should like this game but I just can't bring myself to play more than 2 to 3 hours of it every other day, I just got done with Act 1 too

ITT:

Why did public consensus on this change so fast?

where? on reddit?

That didn't happen
Why do you fuckers make so much dumb shit up

Perchance the court of public opinion is a fickle and promiscuous mistress perchance, one that perchance ought to be ignored as like with a common street whore perchance

Normies already forgot it existsnobody is talking about it anymore

Sorry to kill your erection schizo but not anytime soon
Their software sales are through the roof, repeated sales of P5R keep coming up in every financial report SEGA puts out, they don't put out individual game milestones after launch anymore but Persona by itself generated 4 million sales between now and this time last year, which was almost 3 months after the most recent persona release. 830k of that was from January to March of 2025, so as dogshit as it was, the chances of P3R not having cleared 2 million sales by now are pretty slim. All you can read right here
personacentral.com/persona-worldwide-sales-fy-q4-2025/
Then on the focus of this shitty thread, Metaphor is their fastest selling game to date at a million from just preorders which they've never done before, had strong sales according to their publisher and greatly exceeded their sales expectations on PC according to the game's director, the tons of accolades and the director getting an award from his country's government specifically for this game regardless of the rest of his career notwithstanding.

Metacritic doesn't help sales, shills still hasn't answered why this game didn't reach 2 million sales after winning most awards in tga

this game didn't reach 2 million sales

[citation needed]

It was 70usd and people wanted to feel (really) good about their purchase.

The sad reality is that half the replies to OP are all from the same person

people stop talking about a single player game months after it released

:O

surprisingly didn't have much of a shill campaign unlike the usual suspects

My issue is that it looks like fucking garbage from texture detail to the look of the characters. None of it looks appealing and it looks worse than a PS2/GC/XBOX game. It literally looks like Atlus's C team worked on it.

made for BWC

that's because it was all organic, if it wasn't, the endless woke threads probably made by the same sad sacks of shit that made this thread around the time the demo came out would've translated into the sales or reception, and it didn't

It was alright but I still kinda hate the twist and having Will and "his will" being alive at the same time irriates my marbles more than it should. The fusion didn't feel earned at all.

still don't want to completely give up on people after having them turn on you and not even fully understanding what happened to your own body

not earned

also

other half willing to make a deal giving up his life so that the necromancer doesn't slaughter everyone

not earned

It's more Will and Not Will being two completely separate characters and Will (Original) not having ANY screentime or personality.

fuck you anon, don't put words in my mouth bitch. you seen my follow up now eat my shit
PSHARTTTTTTTT

you learn entirely about the prince and what his thoughts and feelings were on everything through your PC and the false memories built off of what the prince actually felt
him never appearing on his own but to talk about how important (You) are to him is what makes the idea of (You) being his fantasy in the same way most authors pen their characters work so well

no fuck you man don't put shit in the authors mouth. having will more of a character before he fusions ha even if it's for a day or two would had way more impact then "oh he's already dead awkward...."

according to OP these games are flops because they don't have a thread on Anon Babble 24/7

who in the ever loving fuck bought ark survival evolved? like seriously what type of moron actually bought that shit

don't put shit in the authors mouth

(You) are literally coming out of the author's mouth and everything he wanted to be doing everything he wanted to do
(You) are a wanderer that loves travelling because the prince wanted to travel like his dad
(You) have trauma from your village being burned because the prince had trauma from his village being burned
(You) are insecure as fuck about being an elda because the prince was insecure as fuck about being an elda
(You) become the hero because the prince wanted to be the hero
(You) ride the floaty sword and do reckless things easily because the prince (and your mom) was like that
Do I need to go on

lower metacritic score lmao

fuck you this is why nobody likes p fags

fuck me? fuck you

no FUCK YOU

just an inferior version of Persona without any of the soul or je ne sais quoi

Who is saying this? It's literally just another Persona game.

TOTK won this shithole where people cry about it 24/7

Lmao

Also, holy fuck, DD2 not even in the top 20 is crazy.

the chink gacha addicts that only played persona (5) for the paragraph of romance dialogue per girl

Just him. He discovered "je ne sais quoi" in an E33 thread last week

It is pathetic but the lack of romances has completely killed all discussion and interest in the game long term. The fact of the matter is that 95% of Persona fans only care about the series as a shitty dating simulator where you go on a few "dates" with a girl and then get a confession scene and 2 or 3 seasonal events with them across a 100+ hour long JRPG. I played Persona 3, 4, and 5 and while I certainly romanced a girl in each, I was more interested in discussing the greater plot, demons, gameplay, music, themes, style, etc. But every discussion around the games, after like 2-3 weeks, is JUST waifu stuff. It is JUST romance stuff.

Metaphor not having romances basically means the average Persona fan will not care about it and there are not enough generic JRPG fans who got the game and played it to sustain a community. However, even though I spent most of my post complaining about it, I am a bit confused by the lack of romance. You'd think a king would want a queen instead of just being an asexual twink boy with a fairy god mother.

The soundtrack thing is a Meguro problem. If it was composed by the actual best composer at Atlus, Kozuka then the game would have 30+ battle themes and every character would have their own unique motif as well. Basically Meguro is a hack fraud and should be replaced by Kozuka immediately.

kek

wrote all this shit just to say "I don't like the royal archetypes because it encouraged me to not customize my party" and "the game should have more than 2 battle themes"

But I guess it wouldn't come off as the brutal condemnation of the game he wanted it to be if he just presented his points for what they were

Except the soundtrack didn't even suck, it's just anon wanted MORE soundtrack and became disappointed in it because he is fucking greedy? Like I don't understand why this is so controversial to call him entitled for this. The music could have been a single bleep and bloop and it should not have been a mark against the product.

The point was that music isn't a mark against the game, bad music is a mark against the music. But that's not even the problem here. It's that anon is an entitled faggot.

yeah the stupid ultimate archetypes handicaps the job system and hurts later playthroughs. but to be fair replaying persona games is kinda stupid because its just skip text, click correct answer, skip text, etc.

hurts later playthroughs

literally how
you can't touch the royal archetypes until you get Prince on every playthrough
what would actually help replayability is if they upped enemy stats on Regicide way more and let you keep all the other archetypes on an NG+ run. Would be SMTVV godborn except not shit

The music could have been a single bleep and bloop and it should not have been a mark against the product.

This is genuinely one of the worst takes I've ever seen on Anon Babble. Imagine saying Sound Design, Art style, Graphics, Tone and Atmosphere, and Voice Acting quality isn't a part of the final product.

I'm going to say this so that you completely understand something. The soundtrack for a video game DOES matter just like everything else I listed matters. Even though it doesn't alter the core gameplay, all those things compliment the game overall. A shit (or in this case a limited) soundtrack IS A MARK AGAINST THE PRODUCT.

It was definitely overrated but you can fuck off with that inferior Persona shit. It absolutely mogs every single Persona game hard.

Why did public consensus on this change so fast?

because shills stopped shilling

It went from being regarded as one of the best JRPGs of all time to being seen as just an inferior version of Persona without any of the soul or je ne sais quoi

It was only regarded as one of the best jrpgs from gaming journalists.
People who actually played it see it for what it is. It's nowhere as good as Persona 5.

yeah i guess so, idk royal archetypes just leave a sour taste in my mouth

What? There's only one plot twist. Though yeah the game falls off hard in it's last act but it's not due to the plot. It's due to the game design. The game needed a whole extra dungeon for the academy. The way it just gets skipped over is insulting it's so blatantly cut content.

Inb4 >dub
But I think Metaphor has the best english dub of any game I have ever played. You can really tell how much people enjoy the dub too with everyone who's played it quoting the battle lines.

OOHHH POWER OF KINGS!

Balatro not first place

Rebirth that high

SMT VV and Wukong that low

lol

I caved and bought it but I'm not 100%ing it until they release a complete edition which they obviously will

The game needed a whole extra dungeon for the academy

It really didn't
that entire window of time is a whole 10 days and all of the story is there
making a dungeon at most just has you explore a place and see all the things that get conveyed to you by the dozens of NPCs in the game world already anyway

Not crazy at all when it's so undeniably disappointing that a defense squad can't even form for it.

all grindsonas are mediocre, only autists who never had any social life and dont read books praise them

i double dip for every game i like, switch physical + pc port

omori in top games of 2020s

nigga lmaoooo
get that safe edgy crackershit out of here

^self-reporting brown

The irony too is that Metaphor would actually have it make way more fucking sense to have romance than any Persona game since it would make sense for a upcoming king to choose his queen and every female character ends up falling in love with you unlike Persona where it's only in optional side content and gets ignored in the main plot. Metaphor not having romance is such a weird choice.

It went from being regarded as one of the best JRPGs of all time

Nobody ever actually thought that

P3(NOT RELOAD)>Metaphor>P5>P4
I can concede on Metaphor being the better game. P3 just means more to me personally.

It went from being regarded as one of the best JRPGs of all time

That was never the case. Astroturfing the board before the game even came out is all that happened. It's just twitter troons trying to prop "muh persona in COLLEGE" up.

The king will obviously have a harem of every tribe to promote tolerance and equality.

Persona 5 is literally r*ddits favorite jrpg what are you talking about

I have no issue double dipping(I will buy it again if they release a complete version). My issue is more burnout. I beat Persona 5 twice and got every achievement in it but when Royal came out I had no motivation to get into it.

It does have romance you just don't get to choose. Eupha always becomes the queen.

Japanese "games" are useless pieces of trash. Every genre they create as a crude imitation of art is perfected by Europeans.

Junah sexo.

kinda? but will isnt TOTALLY a empty slate like the persona protags and all the party members by the end have some type of government role rather than just being regular teenagers like the other persona games. it'd be kinda weird for the king to just be fucking his secretary or the teacher from the mage acadamy bill clinton style.

You're obviously free to your opinions but I will personally never understand 3's fanatic fanbase. I think it's by far the worst Persona game of the 3 I've played. The story is nothing interesting and the ending is god awful, it has the worst cast of characters of the 3 games with the worst cast chemistry, the gameplay is the worst of the 3 and Persona 5 mogs it in music. What about it do people say is so deserving of praise cause I see quite literally nothing that warrants it. I don't think there's a single aspect of the game I'd consider to be stand out.

It went from being regarded as one of the best JRPGs of all time

It was never even considered better than Persona 3, 4 or 5. Its a mediocre game that flopped

say it a few more times maybe it'll become true before the thread hits bump limit

What about it do people say is so deserving of praise cause I see quite literally nothing that warrants it.

did you know that people can like things you dislike

Junah's a shitty heroine, same with no ass elf. Eupha is the only choice The others can be concubines.

nta but 3 is more cooler and has an interesting battle system while having its cool theme shoved everywhere in your face and being all dark and edgy looking. persona 4 is my favorite persona game but i can definitely understand why persona 3 is so praised

My sixhead wife

but eupha is brown

Its not a good game

Imagine saying Sound Design, Art style, Graphics, Tone and Atmosphere, and Voice Acting quality isn't a part of the final product.

That's not what I said and your reading comprehension is dog shit.

I asked why you illiterate retard not how.

it's cool, dark and edgy

Yeah the only thing I see people like it for are people just being edgy contrarians and pretending it's their favourite to be hip.

thank god metaphor didnt let you have interacial mixed race breeding partners in the game. im praying persona 6 wont let you be a faggot that canonically gets bottomed.

The proof is in the pudding, gay boy. The greatest JRPG of all time would have been far more successful than what we're seeing here.

not even being a racist faggot who’s into browns

now that’s just gay

Why did public consensus on this change so fast? It went from being regarded as one of the best JRPGs of all time to being seen as just an

It reached the consensus of mid the day after when everyone stopped playing it. It wasnt very good and its only now that people are trying to pretend it was really good.

persona 3 is cool, youre just a nigger

it would make sense for a upcoming king to choose his queen

The idea of being queen of Euchronia has less to do with you being married to the king and more to do with you knowing what the fuck you're doing and being recognized for that. The first queen Agrica wasn't even the first king's wife, she was his fairy companion and she only became the queen because she was woman moment-free and everyone actually listened to her

So is the MC

coping

he's still replying to the OP over and over lmao

its GOOD but theres just no point to playing it again outside of nostalgia. Its so easy to 100% on your first playthrough

its GOOD but theres just no point to playing it

"good but whatever" was the consensus on the day of its release. Thats not really a great game to me. Its just well designed and done well but forgettable

"good but whatever" was the consensus on the day of its release

this is delusional

Implying Brigitta doesn't pay (you) 1500 to attend to her for the night.

Cope but it was pretty obvious. Why does E33 still have so many playing it weeks later when metaphor didnt? Streamers all ditched metaphor as well. The villain isnt memorable and the MC is a literal who.

Is atlus making a gacha game off of metaphor or persona 5? Persona 5 because they know people like joker and persona characters not metaphor characters.

You can say cope all you want but you know it's true, that's why you instantly deflected towards the normie FOTM

The villain isnt memorable

delusional

E33 is basically a game you play if you hate RPGs but you want to be able to get into arguments on the internet with people that do dangling the fact that you played a turnbased game over their heads until they eventually stop talking to you

What gacha game is atlus working on? Just answer it for me. We both know atlus moved on and dont care about metaphor.

P5X literally came out before Metaphor even existed schizo

I mean if you don't see the appeal I doubt I can convince you but

The story is nothing interesting and the ending is god awful

For me the strongest part of the narrative is the theme. It's a pretty simple theme at face value. Don't live in fear of death/live life to the fullest ect. But I really think the game's mechanics and structure compliment this theme unlike any other modern Persona game. The calender system, the social links, the last month of the game all reinforce that your time is limited and the ending is the cherry on top.

it has the worst cast of characters of the 3 games with the worst cast chemistry

Us P3 fans kind of like it that the cast starts out as basically just co-workers and only by the end with their shared goal come to cherish eachother. The P4 cast can't even take a piss without the protagonist holding their hand for them but the p3 cast actually feel like fully functional human beings that can make their own decisions hence the tactics battle system.

the gameplay is the worst of the 3 and Persona 5 mogs it in music.

It lacks qol but I quite enjoy the difficulty on Hard in comparison to modern Persona games that basically play themselves. Also music is purely subjective. Atleast p3 can set a proper somber tone with its music unlike P5 that uses the same fucking moody jazz track for every single sad scene.

schizophrenic

The calender system, the social links, the last month of the game all reinforce that your time is limited

They do, but in an insanely surface level way. Like you can't compare anything executed in P3 to JUST the protagonist being a fantasy in Metaphor, or to how the desire seeding/Mementos layers worked in P5

It was always crap. Gaymen journalists just astroturfed it because the game was filled with woke garbage

P3fags are like E33fags. They're very big on digests

cope

Soon it'll be a year of you failing to convince everyone the game was woke
And a year of you saying everyone forgot about this game every couple days

If I had to spend 50+ hours in a restaurant and the place only played two fucking songs I would be shitting all over it even if the food was great

They do, but in an insanely surface level way.

dude every single social link was coping with change, sometimes with death. The game revolves around the death tarot card and what it represents. P3 has the most consistent theming of any of them just because of how narrow it is

Multicultarlism good, Socialism good

"totally not woke guys!"

autistic

even your hero synthetic man backed off from criticizing this game you stupid nigger

but muh eceleb didn't hate it

oh wow I guess I totally changed my mind then multiculturalism is actually based and trad now.

how narrow

how extremely simple*
It's not unlike the argument the P4 audience used to make where having the most fundamental idea of a character arc where X thing happens and the character makes Y decision after that is a brilliant application of the game's themes of finding the truth about yourself. At most, it's one step up from that because the idea of having a game about living life to the fullest that's literally set on a calendar is a coherent idea that isn't compensating for anything.

>Multicultarlism good, Socialism good

Yes, both are good, inevitable even.

Holy shit your the one with shit reading comprehension. What I'm getting at if something like Soundtrack doesn't matter why would any of those things matter? Literally what matters in a game then?

every poster on Anon Babble that brings a food analogy to their argument is an idiot

suddenly mentioning eceleb shit

oh so you are ACTUALLY autistic, nvm

o and got raped by Expedition 33

only bottom right looks cool, too bad i don't buy french games

The team's last game, Persona 5, had off the top of my head:

standard battle theme (Last Surprise)

mini boss theme

battle where a party member awakens their Persona for the first time theme

palace boss battle theme

Rivers in the Desert (with two versions)

Yaldabaoth's battle theme

I think it's reasonable to have expected more than a third of that from Metaphor

E33 outsold both FF rebirth and metaphor. At the end of the day thats why metatrannies get upset. Their "artistic style of shitstains" didnt appeal to anyone.

SALES SALES SALES SALES

die

wow, this game actually must be popular as hell if people are getting called trannies over it. that’s a definite win

Are you retarded? Metaphor has way more than 2 tracks for battles. The original post that tried to destroy the whole game by bringing up such a nothing argument was talking about the music for normal encounters. Which you would know if you played the fucking game.

Metaphor has

standard battle theme when you have initiative

standard battle theme when you don't have initiative

mini boss theme

boss theme

candidate battle theme

human battle theme

Louis battle theme 1, 2, and 3

It's about the same. Still not enough in my opinion but that's Meguro for you.

E33 outsold both FF rebirth and metaphor

Show me the proof

And that's why you're a retard when you can order to-go (turn the music off or play your own, which is what a ton of people do).

E33 outsold both FF rebirth and metaphor.

whats your point ? both FF rebirth and metaphor are complete shit and nothing in my post mentioned these games. i haven't played E33 and frankly it has one of the worst titles ever, the artstyle is meh and is french. the first 2 points won't stop me from playing a game but the 3rd one does so have fun i guess ?

kozuka WINS youtu.be/Oub__f7kb10

Literally what matters in a game then?

THE GAME YOU DUMB MOUTH BREATHER

It's not unlike the argument the P4 audience used to make where having the most fundamental idea of a character arc where X thing happens and the character makes Y decision after that is a brilliant application of the game's themes of finding the truth about yoursel

that's not what p4 is about

At most, it's one step up from that because the idea of having a game about living life to the fullest

that's not what p3 is about. if you're too dumb to understand a theme of games after they spend 100+ hours telling you the theme there's no way anyone could get through to your lobotomized brain.

uhh my niche japanese game is actually better than the game everyone likes

you wont accept it anyway weeb. Take a shower.

tech.yahoo.com/gaming/articles/official-clair-obscur-expedition-33-125516267.html

It's official, Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 is a hit—selling over 1 million copies in 3 days and beating Metaphor: ReFantazio's Steam peak despite being on Game Pass

This is also the cookie cutter retort

i got the etrian DLC so I also got to hear the EO battle theme on initiative

beating Metaphor: ReFantazio's Steam peak

so no sales lmao
metaphor got to 1 million sales literally 3x faster than slop 33 did lmao

Metaphor's soundtrack was a lot more spotty than Persona but when it hits it knocks it out of the park.
The Palace theme is kino, as is Louis final boss theme.

Mfw the Akademia motif kicks in

youtube.com/watch?v=Ll6cnBjjPDU
youtube.com/watch?v=yZOIelz11bg

E33 outsold both FF rebirth and metaphor.

Maybe it's true for Metaphor, it's definitely not true for Rebirth though considering it sold over 2 millions on PS5 alone, not like sales mean anything anyway.

metaphor got to 1 million sales literally 3x faster than slop 33 did lmao

Nope. E33 is better than metatranny.

SO YOUR ACTUALLY TELLING ME THAT A GAME WITH SHIT SOUND DESIGN, SHIT MUSIC, SHIT GRAPHICS, SHIT VOICE ACTING, AND NONSENSICLE ATMOSPHERE IS OK?????? THAT NONE OF IT FUCKING MATTERS IN THE END???? THAT I CAN'T CONSIDER THE GAME TO LOSE ANY POINTS OVER THAT WHATSOVER?????

THERE ARE MORE TO VIDEO GAMES THAN JUST THE RAW GAMEPLAY YOU FUCKING NIGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

It never had a chance

SMT VV

the original is at the very top of 2021
VV is definitely better in every way, but it still is technically the same game, so it being twice in the list is good enough imo
i do think VV was better than metaphor, though

calm down lil bro, you getting too emotional

launch aligned copies sold on steam

oh no no no no no
gamerant.com/metaphor-refantazio-day-one-sales/
All this does for you is show how heavily weighted to PC Slop 33's sales are

I actually find the Akademia motif to hit a lot less hard for me considering Meguro already did this shit with The Battle for Everyone's Souls. It doesn't help that unlike the Velvet Room theme you barely hear the Akademia theme throughout the game considering they qol away the only reason to ever go there by letting you configure all your archetype shit in the pause menu.

e33 did over a million day 1 too retard.

You can't though. You have to go back there to do More's follower bonds and make things for summoner and masked dancer. You go there a lot

I never even picked it up because you fuckers and the rest of the internet convinced me to play P5R and that turned out to be a 100+ hour long slog of pathetic waifubait weebshit.
Meanwhile I'm at <50 hours of E33 and all I have left to do is beat the superboss.

Your own article disproves that dipshit
I know E33keks are illiterate but this takes the cake

anyone who mentions sales or 'general opinion' is automatically a queer
the only thing that matters is if I specifically like the game

but the game is bad because....

I can't hear you over me playing video games

nothing changed, you just started listening to shitposters and sour grape havers. There will be a small (real) downtick as the honeymoon phase wears off but that was months and months ago. The people who loved and enjoyed the game are now doing something else with their time and the detractors are still going strong because it makes them feel good

Fair enough, To me personally Akademia, More and all the themes about a Utopia and fiction influencing reality are much more interesting than the Velvet Room has ever been.
The final boss was awesome but rejecting More was the highlight of the games story for me.

of the internet convinced me to play P5R and that turned out to be a 100+ hour long slog of pathetic waifubait weebshit.

the people shilling you atlus are the people who dislike E33 if that changes anything.

Western JRPG sold 1 million day one to a population of 300 million

True JRPG sold 1 million day one to a population of only 100 million

this is not the own you think it is...

You have to go back there to do More's follower bonds and make things for summoner and masked dancer

That's still only like 10 required visits throughout the entire game. Doesn't even compare to the amount to time spent fusing persona in the velvet room.

established jrpg that was popular in the west barely breaks records

new studio breaks them all

uwu! onichan!!!

Western JRPG sold 1 million day one

False. It sold 1 million in 3 days

this. hashino went full retard

oh did i forget to mention it barely kept up with a 70 dollar game despite being 40 dollars, oh did i also forget to mention that the ceo's the son of a ubisoft exec. you lost jeety.

ubisoft exec

Actually he's the son of a French oligarch

has no good waifus

persona is just waifu shitting to persist the posting no one cares for the combat

ceo's the son of a ubisoft exec.

and atlus had more money than he does kek. I hope the emperor pays you to defend those bugs for them.

gallica though

lmao you lost

You think yourself equal to a Eugief's agility?

E33 living rent free in metatrannies minds

we lost

That was a good song in E33 i agree anon. Glad you found the music good. Cant really say any good music from metaphor. Enjoy your brown MC.

kek

SO YOUR ACTUALLY TELLING ME THAT A GAME WITH SHIT SOUND DESIGN, SHIT MUSIC, SHIT GRAPHICS, SHIT VOICE ACTING, AND NONSENSICLE ATMOSPHERE IS OK??????

Yes. You never played a text-based adventure game? Or an arcade game?

why blud seething though?

I guarantee the people who said it was the best JRPGs of all time decreased the difficulty to easy less than half way into the game.
My main complaints with the game are bad pacing and way too much grinding. I dropped the game right before fighting the final boss because I frankly got so bored of grinding levels for hours straight.

What about the 90% of the game before the pacing and grind issues?

my main complaints with the game are I can't read and I suck at the game

Tell me what text-based adventure games you've spent $60 and 50+ hours on. Oh wait zero. Because the industry has evolved since then and your pixel beep boop shit and customers should get a quality product for their money.

^snoy moviegameenjoyer

Spends $60 plus tax on a newly released game

Is apparently "entitled" when it comes to expecting this game to have more than 2 fucking songs

I guess I concede. I'm wrong for expecting literally anything beyond raw gameplay. Fuck any and all artistic merit and effort in video games, I'm an entitled retard for expecting anything more than pacman

I like how at some point this retard's argument became so unwinnable that he started pretending that there's literally only 2 battle tracks in the entire game

lose your mind some more

p3/p4 faggot gets called out for talking their shit up way too much

instantly called a retard that doesn't know what the games were about

every time

Tell me what text-based adventure games you've spent $60 and 50+ hours on

Colossal Cave Adventure and Zork to start with. Worth every minute. Dumbass.

BASED

that doesn't make them woke.

Yes, it does, troon.

whew

VV

the definition of quantity over quality

why do you think that?

The best part about the V soundtrack is that the only good battle themes are from Konishi

Did the context of "got so bored of grinding levels for hours straight" not make it clear that I thought there was pacing and grind issues throughout my playthrough?

Insane take given Konishi's biggest problem with his work in V is how his battle themes are so repetitive and stay in the same verses way too long, with the exception of Abdiel (which is a remix of a Kozuka song)