Doom is a huge success

Anon Babble proven wrong once again

Players

Companies really trying to gaslight shareholders that the AAA industry isn't on lifesupport huh

players

They never use sales when they fucked up.

They love to lie about this shit, remember Starfield? don't fall for it retards

players

cope word for flop

players

this is how you know it flopped

players

Can game companies fucking stop with this bullshit?

players

it's over isn't it?

Players

It's a flop. It's a huge fucking flop. lmao

players

gamepass game

UH OH!! STINKY!!

Its a multiplat game retard

Oh no no no no snoys don’t look

Doom The Dark Ages is literally on PS5 you fucking schizo.

Why can't Anon Babblechuds get with the times? Subscriptions and players are the new metric. Soon owning games will be as laughed at as owning music or movies is.

Crab game... lost
I kneel

tell retards that Microsoft has completely changed their strategy to being similar to Nintendo's to the point that their games don't even need to sell all that much to break even and be a success

Anon Babblesnoys still try to tell me that's not true forever stuck in the 7th generation

Can't wait for the AAA/home console crash so you faggots will finally be booted from gaming. It's a long time coming.

Gamepass

players

They're not fooling anyone except maybe investors which i guess is all they need.

players

ain't no way my man really said that

Suuuuuuuuuuure.

Shadows has “3 million players” despite low player counts

Turns out it only sold 2.4 million

Dark Ages had “3 million players” despite low player counts

See where this is going.

umm we didn't need to sell games anyway chud, your boycott is not working

KEK

Like sony, engagement and MAO (MAU?) is what matters now. Sales are now second to everything and since the engagement metrics are hidden we're all fucked until the investors meetings

players

When you just can't talk about sales without admitting your failure to the share holders.

and is also illegal

players

uh oh

Not illegal to tell a technical truth while leaving out context. Maybe if they claimed they were all sold copies.

Stinky!!

a tranny

Every time

Um... what are those 3M players doing right now?

you upset the E33 troons with this one lmao

3 million players

not copies sold

Where I have seen that before?

Same 3 million of assassin nigger, are they giving keys to the same fuckers?

players

now where have I heard that before

THEY'RE PLAYING THE GAME
SECRETLY
ON
UH
TWITCH PRIME AND...
EPIC GAMES!

what word were they supposed to use, genuinely asking

this is literally the fakest gaynigger thread on Anon Babble right now

pops up

3x times the posts/min of the AI bait thread

natural my ass

same corporate speak as Ass Creed Shadows

OOOOOF

REEEEEEE IT SAID PLAYERS GUIZ

ok and how do you play the game? Oh right you pay to play!

b-but gamepass guiz

You pay for that don't ya

Players

JUST

posting the most irrelevant platform in existence

Whats next you going to post stadia numbers?

players

own gamepass

click on the game's page

congrats! you're a player now!

I remember the bullshit with netflix, that if you watched the first 3 seconds of the first episode, you watched the whole season for their statistics

copies, followed by the word sold

Sales. Units sold.

Sales.
Which they dont want to disclose because they're probably only a quarter of the total player count.

Anon Babble setting themselves up for failure again. Indiana jones was called a flop here and is already getting a dlc. All that matters to Microsoft is Gamepass, fleecing retards from steam and ps5 is a side gig for them

publicly available numbers like steam charts low

streaming viewer numbers low

online discussion either dead or negative

lukewarm reception at best from normies

even youtube shills don't like it

"Best launch ever! We have Millions of players LOOK AT ALL THE PLAYERS WE HAVE"

So this is the AAA meta now?

players

There's that cute word you keep using again.

Tencent can't do shit because Id is owned by Bethesda which is owned by MS.

Suicide Squad also got DLC. Your point?

players

10 dollars vs 80 dollars are the same thing

oof whole lotta seethe in this thread

I remember reading about Sony doing something similar where if you watched a friend stream a game, it counted you as a player of that game.

3 million people opened the game once on gamepass.
What a great success.

players

They are stealing from Ubisoft copium handbook.

Ah, this cope again. Maybe MS hired the same firm Ubisoft did to trot out this embarrassing, irrelevant graph.

players

O
WARI
DA

Steam has more users than xbox does.

bro old games flopped cause blockbuster existed, all the players were blockbuster users bro

Fake it until you make it, anon. Those marketing roasties need to convince the higher ups that their jobs are worth something. They aren't

Anon Babble seething because they're shitposting git proven wrong AGAIN

Stopping trying to force a tortanic with every game dumb faggots

About the same number of players as """"massive success""" AC Shadows then, hm?

7 times faster

Are they saying this because of the three days early access?

More users that don't pay for anything and use bots to launder money, sure

Xbros actually buy games unlike steamies

Been that way for years. Ever since gamergate, really

Anon Babble never said it wouldn't be a financial success so i'm not sure what your point is.

Players

sweet, now give us the copies sold

lol
lmao

Cope all you want.

The 3 million strikes again

Their biggest concern isn't selling games, it is convincing the investors that they are doing it.

Ass creed was bragging in the same way, then when the investor meetings rolled around their stock suddenly tanked.

Players

Emasculation 33 only at 2M in a month

GET FUCKED E33 shills ahaha! this is how you make a fucking video game not some trash moviegame

Not an argument

players

we are going to have more lay offs soon, arent we?

Your 3 million players, sir.

oh i see, i forgot people actually use goypass. what a world.

Xbox is dead, console gaming = PS5 and that platform doesn't have Gamepass. PC players avoid competing launchers like the plague, every time a game actually does well the steam player count explodes and reflects that, even if it's on Goypass (see Oblivion remake, Expedition 33).

You intentionally leaving out a few minor details, pretending to be retarded, or genuinely retarded?

Let me guess, the game will be so successful they'll have to do a round of layoffs?

players

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Weird, I can't seem to find any sales numbers.

At some point, they will count every Gamerpass subscriber as a potential player.

Look Guys Nigger Assblast 3d has 30 million potential players!!!

Anon Babble is proved wrong ONCE AGAIN.

OOOOF....

Oblivion and Expidition 33 already exposed that 50% of their playerbase was on gamepass buddy

3m "Players"

Exact same spiel as AC Shadows, right down to the numbers

And we all know how big of a success AC Shadows is, it definitely didn't cause Ubisoft's stock to plummet yet again
Honestly, don't have anything against new Doom or the people who enjoy it. Is Dark Ages that bad?

How early do you get the first weapon upgrade?

Let me guess. They count people who opened the game but then stopped playing it on Gamepass as "players".

Umm actually they are playing on another launcher!

get one of those achievements, see how the percentage changes, you can calculate how many players

Why would I buy when I have GamePass. That's the reason I have GamePass. So I don't need to buy games.

These past few months I've had Indiana Jones, Avowed, Oblivion Remastered, A33 and Doom Dark Ages all for me.

Starting to think this anon is on to something, this is artificial as fuck.

That's a lot of broke Doom players. Calculating data because the data of 3 million sold by Eternal was actually reported by Superdata as a guess and not actually by them. Doing simple multiplication depending on what they consider the date of the games launch we can get how long it took Doom Eternal to sell compared to Doom: The Dark Ages "players". Launch Day: 6 days = 42 days for Eternal. Deluxe edition: 8 days = 56 days for Eternal. Doom Eternal did report $450m revenue in first 9 months of games launch. I going to guess they will not report revenue for Doom: The Dark Ages because nobody really knows how revenue works with a gamepass game. It's just a guess if it's based on how many millions of hours paid or just a flat fee. I don't think Microsoft has made that clear and we only got the leak to guess how it works.

They didn't want to reveal the actual sales numbers to the investors. It was literally "game is a success trust me bro".

Based retard.

players

oh shit here we go again

LOL
LMAO

you know what other game in recent memory as celebrating 3 million players?

Stop asking these questions goy. It was a huge success, alright?

kek xbox

it's the new holocaust meme

OY VEY MUH 3 MILLIONS!

IT'S HANUDAH SHOAH!!!

players

players

Why have all the AAA companies been using this metric lately? Is the state of the industry that grim?

appeal to console players by dumbing down the game unless you explore the settings

massive success

I don't know why I hope that a mainstream game would appeal to PC players these days. Its obvious where the money is.

Someone explain to me why only Expedition 33 and Kibgdome Come 2 used sales.

Investors are too stupid to know the difference.

Bloxbros...we won...

players

this shit will never not be funny

Home Console gaming doesn't have a future, Nintendo and Microsoft were right to pull out.

Players

im amused they think it fools anyone. this industry is openly crumbling but they pretend everything is fine like its the last days of the ussr

I mean it IS selling well on playstation
store.playstation.com/en-us/pages/browse/1

Obviously however when companies say players, it.. uh.. deserves mockery

How does anyone know Valve's revenue? They're a private company.

400 million roblox users

Is this true?

Privately owned companies so no investors to needed to lie by touting player numbers

The funny thing is that there are probably far more gamepass subscribers than ubisoft+

Cause they are the only ones that actually fucking sold. The only other two this year would be Monster Hunter Wilds and Oblivion Remastered, but I don't know if these two used players or sold units.

Is Dark Ages that bad?

I haven't played it but I can't imagine these low numbers has anything to do with the actual quality of the game. I'm actually very surprised. Even if the music is worse or the gameplay is worse, I doubt a sizeable amount of people has familiarized themselves with these changes and decided not to buy. I honestly think the game must've been really poorly advertised

also 3M

hmm

saar we have 6 trillion player micro impressions!

Yea, I hate roblox, but I cannot deny its an amazing game. It has thousands of different types of games that anyone can make, and everything is also pretty much f2p, so anyone can join in.
Its a god send for your kids cause theres so much to do on it.

I'm sure doom sold at least 1 million but those numbers are pathetic for the current AAA industry

Mhw used sales oblivion used players.

players

players

Players

Ah so it sold horrendously low and they're using game pass players

It’s nice to see the Doom Dark Ages numbers, as it’s a good game that I want to succeed.

Using “players” still is not a good metric, so I hope it’s more than smoke and mirrors.

Congratulations to the team, and hoping this means more excellent Doom games.

I wouldn't write them off that fast, that one guy asking the right kind of questions got the Ubisoft shill choking up at his presentation, followed by a massive stock drop. They are stupid, but not THAT stupid.

based

So, how is "best selling" calculated/sorted on that?

1 million is pathetic

Where did the gaming industry go so wrong to where a million sales is a flop.

meanwhile

fuck this is good bait.

players

When your project doesn't cost 80 gorillion dollars and you don't need to lie to investors about how bad of a failure it is, you can confidently announce sales numbers in the millions which is an impressive amount on smaller budgets like E33.

How long until we hear about layoffs at ID?

ac shadows numbers was a lie
what should make me believe this slop has 3 million already

When they started bloating up their companies with useless feeders and huge marketing campaigns.

Just two more weeks.

hours played should be what is posted but nu execs would never

The only game that used "players" that I'm certain actually sold a boatload and was a huge success this year was Oblivion

What part of this post do you not understand?

players

isn't it full of groomers now

Hey, Grummz.

players

hahahahahahahaha

A big AAA game costs about 300m to develop these days. Double that for marketing and you need 10m sales just to break even.

But we really need that DEI department, I guess so

there's no way they try and gut id software over this. they have DLC to make.

Its a god send for your kids

you are a failure of a parent if you let your kids play this pedo-infested slop

i didn't even know this came out
what a wet fart of a release lmao

it's the same shit like companies saying "the number one most sold game of all time!! *in the uk*"

I can't imagine these low numbers has anything to do with the actual quality of the game.

It actually does, everything that was shown about the game was off putting, previews were concerning, reviewers and e-celebs didn't like it, gameplay looks bad, word of mouth is terrible. nu-DOOM is actually quite a niche series all things considered, people either like it or completely ignore it, and they decided to do the opposite of what nu-DOOM fans like about it, they cucked themselves out of their audience.

now

You’re laughing.
The last vestige of pure gameplay and fun in the AAA market is flopping, and you’re laughing.
Hope you enjoy another decade of cinematic slop and live service because it’s exactly what you all deserve.

Why are usibg players as a metric now?

Whay about sales? Or better yet. Revenue?
And what does a player MEAN in this context? Do they count every single one that installed and played Doom on Gamepass but then stopped playing it a couple hours in?

Anon Babble lost
woke won

forced RTX

physical disks for consoles are just scrap paper

it's such a botched launch you could almost say it's on purpose

They're at fault for not making an mmo hero shooter doom

players

I'm surprised, thought lots of people bought eternal.

Eternal wasn’t 80$ and didn’t force RTX.

Isn't this the exact wording that Ass Creed: we wuz samurai used?

Roblox (RBLX) is worth $55 billion.
stockanalysis.com/stocks/rblx/market-cap/

Yes. "Great successes" such as these tend to be followed by a lot of layoffs and studio mergers or restructuring.

now

always has been
it's a platform for children with no supervision, a groomer's paradise

STEAM CHARTS DONT MATTER ANYMORE WTF

players

that's a bit pathetic desu

I’m asking sincerely: has Anon Babble ever been right about anything?

That might be true for microsoft but I'm not sure id software, as a studio, can afford the same leniency as the trillion dollars super giant corporation they work under.

Yep, that combo sounds like a game killer. Are they stupid? Why would they up the price so high in a time where people are going to be extra strict with their money?

players

3 million

I'm nooooooooooooticing a pattern among recent releases here... how curious...

30% of players on Xbox/Windows PC haven't beaten the first level

53% haven't beaten Chapter 3

DO THEY COUNT THESE PEOPLE AS PLAYERS LMAO

Beats me, but it's the official website, so just like with steam that is a genuine chart

kek Anon Babble is in shambles

Maybe you're right, I guess I've just never thought of Doom as the type of franchise where people actually care that much. I just assumed the title by itself would sell substantially

Always right about your mom. Also concord, hyenas, dustborn, ac shadows, etc.

Hi-Fi Rush got 3 million players and the studio was shut down.
And you know for a fact that had a FAR smaller budget than fucking DOOM.

be normgroid

receive goypass app notification about this weeks new games added

"oh neat there's a new DOOM game"

*click add to library

That's +1 player for us:)

You act as if Anon Babble was the only place saying those games would bomb. Anon Babble said DmC would have a T-Rex Vergil using baby tears to fuel itself (check the archive), Anon Babble said MGSV would have David Hayter in the epilogue, Anon Babble believed the Grinch leaks. This place is literally - literally - always wrong.

How can you know it's genuine if there is no information on how it works?

Sounds like they were counting on just being able to ride on Eternal’s momentum. They phoned it in and assumed the audience would still come. Disappointing.

We don’t need profit. All we have to do is lie or distort reality so convincingly that investors keep throwing money at us.

You act as if Anon Babble has to be standing alone against the storm to be right about something.

It's a gamepass original

Because it's the offical playstation website you fucking moron?

OMG 7 TIMES FASTER THAN ETERNAL!!!!

Yeah but like. Didn't Eternal do that entirely through sales alone?
Why is 7x faster supposed to be impressive when most of that is padded out by subs?

they really are, theres no way this game is a flop now

Ubisoft, is that you?

I think this shit advertising was planned so that Microsoft can justify gutting ID down to just having enough people to understand their engine

players

oh no NO NO NO

If there is no open information, how do you know there is no manipulation behind the scenes?

Retard

players

i'm tired of getting gaslighted

Okay i am gonna stop speaking with you.

its called massaging the numbers and technically right misleading reporting ;)

Nice. Once again steam charts prove to be the most worthless metric available.

players

Oh, I wonder where we have seen this before.

Omg won’t someone think of the shareholders!

Wdym?

Yes, of course they do. They boot up the game on Game Pass, play 5 minutes, close it? That's +1 "player".

Let me guess, it only cracked 1Million on the PS5 and a few hundred ks on xbox and steam

Saying ‘players’ is especially triggering around here. Engagement is assured.

Why does Anon Babble always forget gamepass owns bethesda

Why are all the studios microsoft bought suddenly retarded?

50 million children,10 million pedophiles, 100 million bots and 240 million pajeets

what year did they stop talking about sales and switched to players? Was it last year? I dont really remember this being common 3 or 4 years ago.

narrative goes from bethesda dying to steam being irrelevant

LMFAO

When does this happen in the game?
Do half the players drop out after 40 minutes, because they just tried out the game for free?

inb4 gamepass isn't free

You know what I meant retard.

You "muh players" retards don't get it. They don't care about sales anymore. They want to sell you gamepass style subscription services because they make way more money with less risk.

Anon Babble will never recover from this.

Wished we'd go back to the "shipped" numbers days.
At least that was tangible.

Once again steam charts prove to be the most worthless metric available.

The low numbers on Steam literally prove that it was a flop, hence why they are going with "uhmm ackshually we have 3 million PLAYERS", which means that probably like 60-70% of that is just people who played it through gamepass.

When subscription services became bug and companies realized they can exaggerate their games success to investors by inflating the sales numbers to include them.

Right, and them closing down studios so they are no longer able to make games for these subscriptions is somehow winning.

When Ubisoft was one failure away from going under

The Xbox achievements also show how dogshit the retention is.

So these players literally just booted up the game for an hour or two and never played it again.

They don't care about sales anymore

They do care about sales but it's just that they know that they can't get them anymore so they desperately cling to GamePass metrics instead.

It's a house of cards that's gonna come crashing down one day because GamePass can NOT continue to fund AAA games when people are getting the games for $10 instead of $60-$80.

one million more than Hi-Fi Rush

Yikes.

active users

LMAO

Uh oh, the shills are angry. Case in point, past page 365, all the games start being set in alphabetical order. It seems to be the same when limiting to either ps5 or ps4 games on the later pages, so clearly there is something going on here.

x.com/assassinscreed/status/1905268079958904991?s=19

2 million × $50 purchase

versus

3 million × $1 gamepass voucher taken off a bag of doritos

bravo Bethesda

isn't this how all companies in capitalism operate?
fake charts, fake evaluations, fake everything
as long as you say that the line goes up to shareholders they will keep throwing cash at you
I remember reading the recent sony earnings call presentation slides and there was much no mention of concord after it flopped badly
everything bad or negative is getting swept under a rug, this is what happens in a yes-men environment

Flopp33 is on gamepass too

steam chart faggots in RUINS

Forced RTX was a major fumble desu.
2016 and Eternal ran great on relatively old hardware. Chasing after the enthusiast market with high end PCs crippled their steam sales. Can’t speak for consoles though.

If you've got to page 365 you've obviously hit the games with the same low number of sales. Likely 0 in their specified algorhythm time period.
So that just proves it's correct.

Lol this literally just proved that the game did actually sell like shit since they had to resort to using players instead of copies sold.

They don't need these studios or AAA budgets because they are moving to AI gen slop churned out by low wage indians. This is all planned, pay attention numbskulls.

i'm curious how devs actually get paid under the MS gamepass umbrella. do devs get a percentage based on gamepass metrics?

But is it fun?

How long until steam gets bullied into submission and hides the player count?
It really exposes these swindlers a lot.

Doom has turned into slop

fug

And they still announced sales rather than players. Curious.

should've done it long ago
information age was a mistake

steam charts have been borderline useless ever since valve changed profile info to be private by default, which was years ago

idSoftware is owned by Microsoft bro

so most people actually are playing it on gamepass. turns out the shills were right

I dont get it. Can an investor not demand to know how much a product has sold? Like at one of those financial call things can an investor be like no I don't want the player numbers I want the sales numbers?

Do not question the party propaganda. Off to the reeducation camps with you.

hyenas is just straight up memory holed

it proves that you dont know how shit works anymore. its about getting people on game pass.

Pretty sure by law they have to print it anyway.

Checked it, I recognized a bunch of games and I have trouble imagining those games would not sale even one copy.

yeah, i know. but how does MS actually quantify a financial success per game? some arbitrary increase in gamepass subs?

Microsoft counts any account that downloads a game on goypass and hits play as a player, even if the only look at the main menu for a minute and then delete the game. This is why the Clair Obscur devs celebrating 2 million games SOLD is a much clearer sign of success than 3 million players. If they wanted to, they could have celebrated at something like 4 million players, since by their metrics half of the players were on Xbox.

Players

Oh, so that's why steam player count threas aren't reliable either then?

The game still sold like shit.

you just know all the seethers are expedition 33 simps

Sorry I forgot, why Anon Babble wants this game to fail?

Can an investor not demand to know how much a product has sold?

Nope. Ubisoft had their earnings meetings with call-ins the 15th this month and one of the investors called and straight up asked how many copies they sold, and the CEO said "we do not disclose that information".

Ignore that it's an Asmonfag clip, I couldn't find any other people who clipped the moment - youtube.com/watch?v=bwx9ZLBpIgk

No they are, on steam you have no choice but to buy it for you to count.

About 42% of consumers forget that they're still paying for subscriptions they no longer use. Additionally, nearly three-quarters (74%) of consumers find it easy to forget about their recurring monthly subscription charges.

the entire model is banked on people being lazy and forgetful. which they are

Nobody knows they shut down some shovelware studio that made a moderately good game but refuse to shutdown 343 after shitting the bed so many times

I'd mock them for using the "players" cop out, but tortanicfags have been spamming steam player counts all week, and that's basically the same thing.

Steam player count shows people who actually bought the game

why Anon Babble wants this game to fail?

It's a bastardization of the game/IP. Doom 2016 and Eternal were both good, but Dark Ages very clearly dumbed everything down in an attempt to reach a broader audience.

Yeah im sure gamepass is bigger than steam right

All of that info is released to investors Anon Babble is just filled with retarded children who parrot what they hear from equally retarded youtubers. Half of the dummies saying this stuff don't even know what an investor is.

Very early obviously.
Achievement rates drop exponentially.
For example, this is 6th mission in MGS V, and by no means hard to accomplish should only take couple of hours to get there.

Most normies buy a game and then drop it after a weekend never to touch it again. Goy pass probably changes this behavior a bit but same goes on.
This is why they want "GAAS" games so they can lure the retards back in periodically while blatantly nickel and diming them. This is why they are talking about "engagement".

We don't know the algorhythm period. It could be within the last hour for all we know.

Well can an investor sue them for refusing to provide them with the information they requested? If they are basing their investment on sales figures surely they are entitled to know them.

you literally know nothing though

So what if it's >players
Does Bethesda not make money off their game being on game pass?

Yeah because they refuse to tell us anything.

Doom Eternal peaked at 84k

Dark ages peaked at 31k

it's a HUGE SUCCESS LMAO

They do but I don't know what the problem is this time, woke?

Does Bethesda not make money off their game being on game pass?

They do but obviously MUCH less. 3 million x $10 versus 3 million x $70.

$70 copy vs $15 pass at best (actually a $1 promo)

gee what do you think dumbass

It's true for them and all of Microsoft's studios now. Those layoffs weren't done without a purpose.

Theres a shocking amount of people who cant comprehend that you dont have to play games on Steam

There are a shocking amount of people who think goypass subscriptions = game sales

WokeGODS can't stop winning

id layoffs soon
DLC scope severely reduced
Doom shitcanned, hopefully for good this time

A lot of people Bing mine so don't even pay $1. Unless you count Bing collecting telemetry as "profit".

Well, if it's conditional and nobody but sony knows those conditions, that's not exactly reliable now, is it?
I sure as hell wouldn't extrapolate a game's success based on its position in a chart that I don't know the workings of, unless I had zero integrity. Thankfully I'm neither a game journalist nor a discord tranny shitposter.

And what about the people who play games for an hour then refund it?

This isn't just playing games. It's buying games and no one fucking bought it.

It's a game you can beat in a day or two casually. What's the problem that most people got it on game pass?

If both shadows and dark ages uses the same numbers, can't we just infer that's just the number of active subscribers for game pass? Indiana Jones had similar numbers too

no its not you fucking moron, a company has no obligation to release product specific infos such as sales, and there is no "the investors" as in a clique of secret board, everything is made public.

Half of the dummies saying this stuff don't even know what an investor is.

your own irony is lost on you you fucktard.

characters bloat

why is doom an anime now

You need to be an autistic neet for that so no more than maybe a few thousand people buddy. Gamepass is just cheap

average refund rate is 10% and steam doesn't let you abuse it too much

um it sold like shit

my source is nothing

even if we go by steam, Doom has been top 5 best selling since it came out.

Imagine if gamers were autisitc neets

You get both in the second level, maybe 40 minutes to an hour in if you're bad.

B-but muh steam chorts and Synthetic Man said…!

Turns out Anon Babble got buck broken by Hugo Martin once again. How does he do it?

your irrefutable proof doesn’t count because I say so

I hope microsoft pays you by the post

players

id software isn't gonna be open long if they keep making flops even if microsoft is there to wipe their ass. It's already debatable whether a studio is really alive when it's bought out by a much bigger entity and developers are immediately shifted around at microsoft's convenience.

players

Well deserved, finally a good id shooter ahain after how bad Eternal was. Nearly killed the Doom franchise but it's back

you might as well be posting twitch viewership. a completely meaningless metric.

If they're confident enough to tout pkayer numbers.
Surely they're confident enough to mention sales and retention metrics as well?

Surely?

Calm down nintard, you'll get the game eventually in switch 3

It's worked for the entire western ecnomy for nearly 20 years.

this whole thread is about steam. isnt that interesting?
more stock market "wars" shit clogging up my Anon Babbleideo games catalog.

If I keep saying it doesn’t count maybe it will be true

Retention

for a single player shooter

real mental giants in this thread

What's the problem that most people got it on game pass?

5 year development cycle with 200 employees. Even if we assume that they are all on minimum wage at $30k/year, it's still not sustainable.

Anon Babble gets btfo again

immediately copes and moves the goal posts AGAIN

Do you guys ever get tired of looking and acting like whiny retards?

Maybe I should start.

forgetting that it just says

players

3m isn't impressive for a franchise like this tee bee aytch

The catalog is 200 threads. Feel free to hide this one, you won't even notice the difference.

See If you're only mentioning player numbers then you need to mention how maby of those players actually stuck around and didn't just boot up the game but then close it in an hour.

Idk, feels like gamepass is such a trap for investors

units sold was a pretty objective way to measure success, now companies will just go "it broke the record of players in the first 5 minutes" without showing profits , units sold, revenue, whatever

at least id is putting games out consistently. which is more than can be said for half of the studios MS bought. still no fable gameplay in 2025

Who the fuck mentions retention metrics? Get of the internet, you've gone completely insane over this nonsense.

I'm glad hi-fi rush sold so poorly that the devs could buy the IP for cheap. I don't care if the series is niche, I'm looking forward to the sequel.

That just means everyone played it on Gamepass. Shame though since it's a much, much better game than dogshit Eternal was.

players

Xbox's idea of retention would be seeing Game Pass subscriptions go up.
But they've been declining for the last 5 years or so.

3 million players

there is that number again

Players

KEK ubisoft all over again
what's next? A snarky comment towards Elon with big likes, right?

You have to understand, Anon Babble goes into hysterics with every new Doom game that comes out. Seeing this shithole board get proven wrong again and again really does a number on their faggot psyche.

players

That bad, huh?

Game """journalists""" love mentioning it when it's the only angle they find to attack a game they don't like

Real thick irony there, buddy

They weren't chasing after the enthusiast market, development budget either got slashed or they couldn't meet deadlines so they resorted to using RTX lighting as a crutch rather than manually baking in the lighting like in the previous 2 games.

2020: 10 million

2021: 18 million

2022: 25 million

2024: 24 million

2025: expected to reach 50 million (supposedly)

huh?

Do you children realize a shooter's ideal length is like 10 hours? Holy shit dude

2024: 34 million*

expect "Performed well but didn't reach expected sales numbers..." cope in the earnings call

Best you'll get is "w-we d-don't disclose s-sales numbers.

A good shooter is going to have stuff to do after finishing it.

Maybe this game isn't woke afterall

Microsoft no longer runs their studios like Sony or AAA publishers anymore, they run them like Nintendo so the budgets on their games now are not as high. id is safe.

Eternal released during lockdowns, it's sales are an anomaly for a niche series like this. Compare TDA to 2016 for a clearer picture on how the series is faring.

If you bought gameass for some other reason you don't pay to play Doom.
If you try Doom on gameass for 10 minutes and then uninstall it you aren't some grand supporter of the title. You are merely a player.

You know all this. You're a dishonest shill.

players

This

bro old games flopped because piracy existed

If they could have legally shut down blockboster they would have. And with modern DRM it wouldn't be possible even if someone were still trying.

Name 3

PlayStation is now a dead Californian brand with a Chinese boss. Pathetic

Because those games were very successful when compared to their budget and standing in the industry (e.g. not part of 20+ years old mega franchises).

players

Xbox Live became "Game Pass" in 2023 so that fudges the numbers quite considerably.

sony has to include pc players

they force the psn login to boost numbers like these, huh

Doom
Doom 2
Doom Eternal

Revolution Idle chads prolapsed NuDoom's anus though

It fudges the numbers for gamepass subs, not TDA "players" because as far as I know the base sub for online multiplayer doesn't get day 1 access to new games.

or movies

Hasn't been the case thanks to streaming fatigue. Even normalfags are getting tired of their streaming services losing movies due to licensing shit and find it easier to just own the movie.

another w for roblox chads

Buck broke Anon Babble three times in a row

Can anyone stop him? How is he so powerful?

I'm playing it. It's alright, for an idle game, but boy is this game unequal in its progress.

What would you rather have $80 or $15 that you have to share with all the other games someone played this month on gamepass?

players

slower to reach it than Shadows

bruh they're cooked

Another gamepass "success" this is coping on a new level

poorly advertised i guess i barely knew it was out and from the trailers it looked slow and kinda boring.
havent played it so i won't say anything about the game itself

If they're so confident about the success of their game they should just say copies sold

qrd? link to video/article?
that sounds funny as fuck

not really

players

Why won't they give sales numbers anymore?

just say copies sold

They got to get to 1 million sold first

When will Charties realize they dont matter?

Shadows “flopped”

Oh really? Can you cite sales numbers to confirm that?

I just assumed the title by itself would sell substantially

Clearly, so did Bethesda. That's why they let Hugo Martin ruin everything and Marty Stratton get away with fucking over Mick Gordon.

No because ubisoft still refuses to disclose them lmao

even doe this proves charties were right albeitever

sales are an antiquated metric, grandpa. especially if you're a MS first party dev

Oh really? Can you cite sales numbers to confirm that?

Ubisoft's CEO declined to mention sales to investors during an earnings call when directly asked about the sales numbers. It's a huge flop.

No proof then? Thought so.

B-but the concurrent players on steam (the smallest available platform)

B-but nobody's watching on twitch! (lol)

whats next? google searches?

Where's your proof it was a success?

Other than the fact ubisofts profits are in still in the red.

No proof then?

The proof is in the pudding, ya dingus. If it wasn't a flop, they wouldn't have any problems telling investors the numbers.

trolled… epic style.

No proof then? Thought so.

Look at their stock. It still went down even after the bump they got from the Tencent announcement.

No proof then? Thought so ;)

the smallest available platform

Citation needed.

similar to Nintendo's to the point that their games don't even need to sell all that much to break even

Nintendo's first parties sell great though, that's literally how they stay successful. Hell, Mario Kart 8 is probably still fucking selling.

Players

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anon Babble always get btfo. I told these niggers that gamepass and consoles more than made up for steam concurrents but they did not listen.....................

Another anon already linked it here

Was Anon Babble pissed-off cause they paid $80+tax+tariff+tip for this? They do know Gamepass is like 10 bucks right?

gamepass

Yeah Phil what's the profit margins on gamepass do you get a whooping 2% return on investment?

What will the cope be like when Mario Kart World has 10 million sales Day 1?

microsoft only cares about carving into steams influence on PC. Anon Babble tallying up sales like retards is laughable.

Mario Kart World has 10 million sales Day 1?

KEK they should do a 10 million sales 10 million players announcement at the same time

nothing to cope about if they directly cite sales instead of “players”

spoiler

It's quite literally the price tag. Why buy Dark Ages for £70 when DOOM(2016) is £15 and Eternal is £35?

players

gamepass doing work.

WHY WASNT THIS A HERETIC/HEXEN GAME

Why would anyone cope? Everyone knows that Nintendo games sell like hotcakes.

t. Nintendo hater

players

the "transpurchase" of sales metrics.

The game sold like shit as is and you’re saying they should’ve ditched the DOOM branding for an ip that’s been defunct since the 90s?

We love the big N in this board bud

The price tag is just one of the many reasons this shit isn't doing as well as id/Bethesda expected

It puts it in perspective for people here who think 3 million players in a week is a good number.

god i am so tired of asmongoloid taking over youtube. anytime i search something on yt the first result is "roachturd reacts to [query]"
why is he so popular anyway. i mean i know he's got the backing of a lot of people, but so many normalfags readily listen to the opinions of a millionaire smelly nigger and think he knows anything about being a normal human

STAND

AND

FIGHT

only cares about

Maybe they should start caring about gamepass fucking over their actual sales numbers KEK

Can buy DOOM 1, 2, 3, 64, 2016 & Eternal for the same price as Dark Ages on its own

What were they thinking??

Tendies are all fat losers so I win either way

Asmon points out what should be obvious

Ah, so that's why there's so much copium around Shadow's performance. Can't let ratface win so gotta deny, deny, deny.

In the thumbnail Doomguy looks really fat

They are still in business when chuds said they would be bankrupt

pajeet accent on ubisoft spokeperson

lmao

But their profits are still red.

CEO: Yeah I like the GamePass structure, it's profitable

CFO: Yeah I like the GamePass structure, it's profitable

Division manager: Yeah I like the GamePass structure, it's profitable

Investors: Yeah I like the GamePass structure, it's profitable

Gamers: No you can't do that it actually means it flopped and you're losing money!!!

Lmao, never gets old

almost like back then you had to pay full price to be one of the players, unlike now.

They are still in business

Bioware is also still in business, for now. When their next Mass Effect game flops then they are donezo.

It's a french accent, you troglodyte.

Before

GUIZ LOOK STEAM CHARTS MATTER

now

ALL THOSE PLAYERS ARE GAMEPASS, WE ALL KNOW EVERYONE LIKES MICROSOFT MORE THAN STEAM

That's very clearly a french accent, buddy.

They are still in business

Ubisoft and Tencent are forming a new company that will take control of its most successful franchises

Why buy any of them at all when you can play them all for $15 on #GamePass???

Retard

mistake profit for stocks

Tard

30m alleged subscribers

10% try it out

totally legit

25%

take control

Oh yeah i guess They're stocks are in the red too lmao.

Because I can buy them, finish them in a day then resell them for the same price.

And what about the people who play games for an hour then refund it?

They only count for a minimal amount of the player count and obviously stop counting going forward?
What about people who load up the game on gamepass for 10 minutes and then quit? those are now permanently "players" in their metrics.

I can already see you not understanding the difference, so imagine this.
I load up a cup with 10 marbles. I now have 10 marbles, I then take 4 out. Steamcharts would now show 6 marbles. "player" metrics would still show 10.

I don't remember game pass allowing access to only one game. In how many parts do the profits have to be divided to accurately estimate profits generated by just one game or are we going to play retard bingo and pretend every game on gamepass earns as much as every gamepass subscription currently active?

They always fatten up characters for prequels

Read the article. The "inquiry" is just faggots on social media shitposting

This cope again

Yep it's a flop lmao

Anon... trannies and furries literally use roblox to groom kids. and have an entire fetish around early porn introduction they run on that shit. They are showing porn to 8 year olds and shit and encouraging them to troon out or send nudes. Get your kids off that shit unsupervised.

players

It's all to fool the investors who hate no fucking idea about anything, so yeah

Is it a flop if Microsoft already got your $120 Gamepass subscription for the year?

We do know gamepass has 34 million users just do the math, even at the lowest estimates it makes billions

Game Companies love shit like GamePass because it makes it completely impossible to calculate sales per product outside of vague estimates based on new subscribers specifically on the day games release.
You know those really awkward Ubisoft investor calls where they outright have to say "w-well we don't want to share sales figures..."? Microsoft doesn't have that problem.
They can just say "oh well this game had 3 million interactions and it's on gamepass so it's doing well" even though that tells very little about everything.

Let me guess.... they are counting gamepass players who played the game for 10 minutes and never again... lol

It's not really their fault player numbers are all they have to go on because the companies refuse to publish sales.

lying is le good

0 moral fibre in you of course

they are counting gamepass players who played the game for 10 minutes

Games can never flop again amazing uhh until investors wonder where their money went.

Games can never flop again

Sony should just put Marathon on gamepass

D-don't worry about the money. Look at all the happy players we have!

It makes billions
FOR MICROSOFT

Who developed DOOM TDA, was it microsoft?

They revealed their profits/losses in the meeting. and they were down 81 mil or some shit lol. -17% or whatever. "it was a great success, trust me bro, ignore the 80 mil I just lost."

Yes actually

players

Is this like the new cope meta for AAAs flopping?

implying

Doom Eternal launched on Switch 1, they'll make this work on Switch 2.

CFO

boss

How old are you, 12?

Do you guys want to know the real trvth nvke?

Doom is a console franchise now.
TDA is made for console players.

It never had a chance on PC.

People still give a shit about crab games? Squid games hasnt been relevant for like 3 years now wtf

players

I tried Eternal on PS4 when it came out and it felt like shit because you couldn't play as fast as you wanted to

x.com/Chris_Dring/status/1924954084269777113

2 MILLION ON GAMEPASS LMAO

yeah i agree with this
dark ages was clearly made for console in mibd

2 MILLION ON GAMEPASS LMAO

Nonononono this can't be real

chudbluds...

only 1 million sales after a week

TDA BROS....

Imagine being a normal faggot and seeing a game that (in my country) is $120 which is known for being a short run through meathead video game and happily paying for it
Yes a lot of these people are gamepass payers but the 1 million who did actually buy it are the reason why banks should retain high interest rates

but tortanicfags have been spamming steam player counts

YOU HAVE TO BUY THE FUCKING GAME TO SHOW UP ON STEAM
Or someone has to BUY A FUCKING COPY OF THE GAME AND GIFT IT TO YOU

See how players and sales can actually be synonymous in the right circumstances? Gamepass, however, is NOT the right circumstance.

players

Alright then.
Gamepass is $9.99, let's pretend 10 bucks.
I counted around 414 games currently available with it.
At 34 million subs, that's $340m divided by 414 that's around $821256 per game. At 80 bucks, that's the equivalent of 10625 copies sold. So much for billions.

That’s more than enough for them to take over down the line and don’t forget they gave them all their IPs you dipshit.

So 1m? How fast did doom eternals sell?

STOP
DOING
MATHS

The best thing about all this bullshit? AAA cunts honestly think anyone in this economy has any F left in FOMO, that they're gonna keep pushing this astoturf & other bullshit like "DON'T U WANNA BE A KEWL KID 7 B-B-B-B-BUY OUR 80 DOLLAR SLOP?"

This industry is fucking toast, love to see it

Players

Imagine losing to the fucking French.

You do know gamepass is monthly right

People who still don't understand why steamcharts is the only honest metric that anyone that isn't retarded uses as an indicator of sales are beyond help.
Imagine getting tricked by "players".

Arithmetic?
More like antisemetic, oy vey

what's a AA game exactly?

Yeah well there you have it
Padded the fuck out

You do realize we are talking about one specific game, not the complete profit history of gamepass over the years, right?

He can't finish 400 games in a month

Where is even the fun in chuddism anymore?

Expedition 33

that's most countries throughout History

Players

Tough break

In the schadenfreude.
I can laugh at my enemies dying forever.

They saw the flop posts on X and immediately came up with the players cope KWAB

I would like to interject as I find it interesting that depending on how you read your post, some retards will call you an ESL or not:
- could be read as "a double A game" (correct)
- could be read as "a A A game" in which case you're an ESL retard (bad)

but you haven't really killed anyone tho

it's the first one
can you answer it kindly?

Players

but how is it a cope though, gamepass gives money to bethesda for every copy played i think

It would be Anon Babble A A game, ESL.

Cope, Xbox lost.

why would they use sales when a games success isnt based purely on sales anymore when gamepass exists?

i-it doesn't count

go back to school lil bro

well I wasn't going to but you asked nicely enough
I think a AA game is something like at least a few million but nowhere near like 100M+

Then why do they say I'm killing transfolx by not buying their games?

be it made by indie devs or a big company?

You understand that games continue to make profits over their lifetime, yes?

you actually couldn't even read my post properly, as that was the mistake I was pointing out in the second case
incredible level of retardation on your part

Feel free to multiply those numbers by how many months doom stay on gamepass then. I can't read into the future.

players

lmao

how can I make this Microsoft/Xbox thread about Sony instead

Gamepass does. The game themselves? That's debatable.

crtl+f ">players"

70 results

lmao Anon Babble got it on lock

It's a game developed by the Alcoholics Anonymous.

I would say so yes
to me the AAA//AA etc game criterion is about the budget and amount of employees
people use the term "indie" interchangeably with low budget because odds are that if you are INDEPENDENT (i.e. basically self-published/funded) then your budget will be low
but technically it's still possible to be a AA game and indie if you managed to self-fund to the tune of millions somehow
that's what I think makes the most sense for all these terms

Winning what, exactly? Xcucks are being forced to whore their games out to Sonybulls.

Yea, but their games have mid to low budget. I think that the only games they pour big money in are the console Zeldas, maybe Smash. I remember hearing TP had a really big dev team (like 300+).

They would probably still make better shit than the current AAA industry.

Keep in mind steamdb wasn't tracking during the first three early access days because nobody donated the ultimate edition.

Why do they stop at 3 million?

Why not 6 millions? It’s not like anyone gonna call you out on it

b-b-b-but Sony

Meds.

That was the joke.

Oy vey.

the odds were in my favour so I prefer to be pre-emptive

gamepass is bigger than steam

Steamie chart bros.......

30M TOTAL Gamepass subs

AA = games that are in between indie and AAA, both in terms of development costs, amount of developers, and the actual quality of the game itself. I'd argue that AA is usually between like 50-150 developers, and you can usually tell that if they had more people and more money, then they could probably make an AAA game. Think of games such as:

STALKER
Chivalry
Disco Elysium
Hades
A Plague Tale
A Way Out/It Takes Two/Split Fiction
Remnant 1/2
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
Life is Strange
Tyranny
Pillars of Eternity
Little Nightmares
Ori 1/2
Atomic Heart
Atomfall
RoboCop: Rogue City
State of Decay
Sifu
and eurojank stuff like Gothic/Risen/ELEX/Greedfall
etc.

You forgot to mention those 2.4 for Shadows are the sales of TWO MONTHS while the infamous "three millions PLAYERS" was announced like 5 days after the game came out.

quality of the game itself.

I hope by that you mean Indie is good and AAA is bad (even though there is a deluge of terrible indie garbage).

ah, makes sense
thanks

Is underwheling at best.

Imagine paying subscription fee to play a fucking game, how pathetic.

where do most nintendo games go, AAA or AA? since a lot of their games don't seem that big with exceptions of course

Players

Bro Microsoft owns Doom its never leaving and they don't have to pay any license

500 posts gone by in an instant, and these were completely ignored as it breaks the narrative.
Curious.

players

let's just pretend everyone had their eyes glued shut over the past few months

3 hours isn't an instant.

IS IT ON GAME PASS?!?

LORD SPENCER PROMISED ME SLIMEY JIBLETS!!!!

why do I smell curry?

its a financial success actually

ai jeet seething his thread isnt topping the charts

calm down saar

I’ve been hearing xbox is dead for years. Hey snoy, tell me… WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE GAMES. astro shart dropped 9 months ago kek