It's just that simple

what about them long boy wyrms

correct, comrade. words have no meaning.

I'll post it again.

That's just a very large and smug snake.

A wyvern needs to have a scorpion tail that poisons you. So rathalosBut skyrim dragons dont

it's important that we get the terminology for an imaginary fire-breathing flying lizard correct

They aren't made up. They are mythological beings. They have a tangible history in the real world. Wether they exist or not doesn't matter.

since when is a drake not a young dragon
ARRRGGGHHH

what this tells me is that wyrms are the best

Lung dragon is redundant btw. It just means dragon dragon.
That said where did it say that salamanders need to have multiple legs? Afaik theyre just giant red monitor lizards that breath fire.

this picture is awesome because FUCK the east

They are fictional creatures?
I don't really give a fuck is 40 years ago retards making d&d decided they wanted to have specific differentiation between them and morons have caught on in the last 10 years and tried to push it as some global narrative, fictional dragons have existed for legitimately thousands of years through recorded human history, with varying proportions.
You want at least a more long standing source you could use heraldry, which has 2 legged dragons with only the front legs and a fucking snake as the back and its still a dragon. big reptile with wings = dragon, simple as that.

four legs are objectively cooler

this is a dragon

my made up shit is more legit than you made up shit

bro

cervidae

That's the deer family, Einstein.

Lung means dragon.

Quetzalcoatl is sometimes depicted with wings.

get thee behind me, Satan

legs on the front

retarded and unbalanced, has to drag itself along like a awkward loser when needing to move short distances

Ah yes! the expert on "real" dragons.

No it's the cervidae family, of which deer and elk are both discrete members, Oppenheimer

behold! a wyvern

We literally created you. The ancestors of native Americans were the first to domesticate the wolf.

Dragons are just fossils of pterodactyls that medieval people discovered

We simply replicated it on humans.

out of Africa theory cucks still spouting their bullshit

Both are dragons.
"wyvern" is gay french bullshit

Believe what you want doggy.

there's probably a very specific class of retardation you are suffering from when you are unable to call something a duck when it walks and quacks and swims like a duck.

Our ancestors were blacked chud

Blacks leave Africa

Gain lighter skin

Gain greater intelligence

What did he mean by this?

Miriam-Webster Dictionary:

cervid

any of a family (Cervidae, the deer family) of ruminant artiodactyl mammals (such as the elk, moose, or white-tailed deer) that have solid deciduous antlers borne only by males except for the caribou in which both males and females bear antlers

Wyverns are and have always been dragons.

deer

any of various slender-legged, even-toed, ruminant mammals (family Cervidae, the deer family) having usually brownish fur and deciduous antlers borne by the males of nearly all and by the females only of the caribou

Would you still love them if they were a wyrm?

Revisionist history

Nta but this can be applied to anything though.
Like feral ghouls in fallout are sometimes called zombies despite not being technically zombies because they share something similar with zombies.
Big scaly lizard that breathes fire = dragon.

We don't know if east Asians were also products of human domestication yet.

But nature is surprisingly more balanced then we thought.

Native Americans are just homo sapiens.

Except that Mayans/Olmecs/Amazonians/Inkas and other south american groups got mixed with south east Asians coming from Polynesia.

They are about as much native as Elizabeth Warren because you can only mix with foreigners so much. Europeans were the nail in the coffin for them.

Anon Babbleros...i want to fuck a dragon

oh my science did you just refer to a spider as "a bug"!?

hexapod vs tetrapod

fantasy realism is so stupid
dragons aren't real, there's no realistic way to design them

yeah, chimps are black.

You're not so different to guys in plate armour running around looking for fantasy creatures to "fight" all a lie, they wanted to fuck unicorns and dragons and elves

It's not about what we call them in the real world. Nirn is it's own world with it's own words.
It's not a dragon, it's a wyvern. It's not magika, it's mana. It's not daedric, it's demonic. It's not a shout, it's an incantation

What's a drake with no front legs called?

More like Long Dragon am I right?

When was that established I remember Redguard's dragon boss having only 2 legs

2 legs plus wings is a wyvern

The most important part of a wyvern is in its name, a descendant word of "viper," named after its barbed, poisonous stinger. Dragons and wyverns both walked on two legs like chickens in heraldry, but only wyverns have a stinger. Without a stinger, it is unambiguously just a dragon. Elder Scrolls also knows this, as the only instance of "wyvern" across all the games is the spell "Wyvern's Sting." Apts named after the key factor of what is a wyvern: the S T I N G E R.

MonHun calls nearly everything a wyvern, over there it's basically just synonymous with "scaled beastie".

I don't care what's what as long as I can fuck 'em.

Two legs makes it a dragon, four legs makes it a Daedric Titan. Or Peryite.

the word dragon just derives from bite in ancient greek. the drakon as a enemy was just a big snake. so all big scary snake lizards are dragons and anything else is much much later revisionism and autism
bitch

The only context in history where 2-legged dragons where referred to as "wyverns" was in the heraldry of nobles in England in the 14th and 15th century (besides modern day, of course). Other countries had it on their heraldry but they just called it a dragon.
I'm pretty sure the only reason this notion exists in modern day is because D&D separates dragons & wyverns that way and people think D&D rules apply to every fictional universe ever for some reason.

sex with both tbqh

All names are made up, you fucking psued.
A monkey isn't called a monkey because the universe demands it. It's because we call it a fucking monkey.

Kangaroo

Kek it was European ancestors that domesticated the wolf against the neanderthal

dragons with 4 legs= sexy
wyverns with only 2 legs = lame

What this tells me is that every version and culture of human has been fucking terrified of snakes since the dawn of time.

The only thing worse than people who care about the wyverns vs dragons debate, is people who think wyverns aren't better.

monster hunter taxonomy is awful, they haven't figured out convergent evolution
like they think a fish, a reptile, and a mammal can all be closely related just because they have the same body plan, but a flying reptile that also uses its wings as claws is much more distinct from a purely bipedal flying reptile

Lung

Kirin

I meant this is true but wyvern literally means "dragon with two two legs and two wings instead of four legs and two wings"

How do we get to Sand Wyrm?

MH taxonomy system is very simplistic, but probably to keep classifications for gameplay mechanics attached them working and not having you hunt incredibly specific sub species of monsters.

You're all wrong.

this is CLEARLY a drake
fucking retards

so are birds and therefore so are penguins.
Also fuck you.

A wyvern is a dragon. As in wyvern is the middle english word for dragon. It's like saying "ryuu aren't dragons!". Stupid retards.

FAGGOTS

I mean, I am a faggot for jerking off to Grigori but nobody asked.

my man

You are correct, but the meaning of wyvern today is a lesser dragon, with drakes being lesser dragons than wyverns.

The meaning of wyvern today is some nerd shit. Skyrim's target audience has never heard of a wyvern

Britain and Japan aren't blue

Those islands are literally frontier territory. Plus, Britain wasn't always an island.

No it's just that one group of people saw potential in taking advantage of humans fear of death.

Take care of your health :)

They hated him because he told the truth.

Post evidence that we didn't come from Africa.

tfw no pet Fae

Mammals are all separated into fanged beasts though, and all the fish are piscene wyverns. Unless you're implying Lagiacrus is more closely related to Plesioth than Rathalos which is clearly not the case.

paulumu is a flying wyvern despite being clearly a mammal

Ok, but which ones would you guys fuck?

tiermaker.com/create/dragon-archetypes-hotness-tier-list-16091425

Bigger image.

More info.

despite being clearly a mammal

By what metric? Barioth and many others have fur, and it has scaly legs and a plated tail.

It is True that Dinosaurs are Dragons?

deferring to some deviant art faggot

chatGPT brain ass zoomer
dragons are whatever the fuck i say they are

some mammals have scutes like armadillos and pangolins
but no reptiles have fur

Truth.

you're not black

How do I break this to my friends bearded dragon?

I'm going to give the dragons in my game 2 legs and 4 wings just to spite you

Arkveld is covered in fur AND scales AND explicitly, canonically, undeniably lays eggs.

Arkveld is literally a genetically modified freak monster

some mammals lay eggs, and its tusks are more reminiscent of a mammal than a reptile
plus armored plates and scales were common among synapsids just rare among mammals. But no sauropsids ever had hair

is smart = dragon

4 legs plus wings would make it an insect.
Which would be fucking awesome.
Why do dragons have to be lizards? Bat dragons, praying mantis dragons, crab dragons would all be cool.

uhm, acshtually, here's a 15 year old drawing from tumblr by a scalie artist, CASE CLOSED

expanding on this, I've always thought diablos looked like a non-mammalian synapsid, with the plates and reptilian appearance, but with tusks that aren't seen in sauropsids

I've seen chicken hunting mice, fire breath would have made it nicer

The original was, then it managed to throw off its programming and parthenogenesis its species back into existence. Plus on all the other Guardians (Zoh Shia excluded) are just cum-splattered version of the regular ones with no dick or stomach, they don't add anatomical features the original lacked.
Basically every monhun monster lacks the #1 actual defining trait of mammals, which is in the name, that being breasts. And we know for a fact Arkveld #1 was a gravid female since it laid a fertile egg, and yet you don't see any evidence of the actual primary mammalian features.

which is in the name, that being breasts. And we know for a fact Arkveld #1 was a gravid female since it laid a fertile egg, and yet you don't see any evidence of the actual primary mammalian features.

wyvern milk

doesn't actually originate from wyverns, it's runoff from the bizarre ancient Wyveria biotech. And the non-guardian Arkvelds that appear after the story concludes lose their ability to siphon it.

not actually venomous, just has such horrible dental hygiene getting bit will invariably infect you with lizard aids

Not all dragons are wyverns but all wyverns are dragons.

regardless they're not going to put boobs on their wyverns

frogslop

THIS
And on a side note, Auroth best girl

someone should go back in time and kill Gary Gygax. nothing personal, he was a cool guy. but it would be for the best.

and people wonder why games aren't selling

Which one of these are fuckable?

That's not what kills its prey. What kills are the open wounds being exposed to diseased water pools.

Top one looks like a faggot

But they're fictional creatures that operate on completely different rules based on setting.

So in Skyrim they're Dragons.

What's a drake with no front legs called?

Brute Wyvern.

because the universe demands it

Unless you believe in determinism.

But they're fictional creatures

See

All of them, if you're brave enough

It actually does have anti-clot saliva though

HOWEVER

based tolkien, always right
wyrm dragons are peak

fpbp
Only faggots care about this dumb shit.

Somebody should let the Chinese know because of its lack of wings, that this isn't a dragon because Tolkien or D&D nerds or whoever made up autistic rules for what makes a dragon some 6000 years later after the Chinese first depicted them in jade statues.

If Wario had a pet it would be the Komodo Dragon.

it's true, chinese dragons are a completely different creature than western dragons. Westerners saw the loong and thought it looked kinda like a dragon so we use the same word. But a loong is a generally benevolent water deity, not a dragon.

need wyvern wife...

Wyverns make more sense conceptually. The four legged dragon model is just not aerodynamic, lest we'd see animals irl with four limbs plus a pair of wings. Fantasy be damned

not the cloaca version

Coward.

Yeah but 'komodo drake' doesnt sound nearly as cool.
Also as of this moment im going to suggest that they had wings at the time of their naming but evolved without them because 4 legged dragons with a pair of wings is retarded

Dragons are just pegasus drakes. Where are the unicorn drakes?

both have a cloaca

I want to stick my dick in a cloaca

It's really that simple

Dragons are just pegasus drakes. Where are the unicorn drakes?

They're called Kirins, and you can find them in Monster Hunter.

FUCK WYVERNS

FUCK WYVERNS

Dats wacist.

Valley of Drak- er, I mean wyverns!

I mean wyverns!

Those so called wyverns can't fly for any length of time. If they're over a pit for a length of time they fall to their deaths.

you need to pluck the feathers first.

frogzard

Dungeons & Dragons is the worldwide standard for the naming of nonexistent creatures despite differing forms of them being depicted all across the world throughout history

I'm not risking a vacation right now, I have threads to post in.

The damage Dungeons & Dragons has done to people’s creativity is immeasurable.

She calls the two leg, two wing ones though.

How big should dragons be?

It's whatever the setting calls them.

The maximum size where you could still realistically have sex with them, I say.

I lived next to a dude who used to go to the pound to "adopt" cats so he could feed them alive to his pet fucking dragon as a treat.

dragons don't need wings. It's a fact most medieval pictures of St Georges, who kills REAL dragons shows him killing wingless monsters.

I don't think she's gonna feel anything anon, anything above 10ish meters long head to tail you'd need both fists.

And this is how Elves look like

for

Elfes basically mean something different in every French and German village. You rarely see tolkien's version in folklore, he more or less made it a protected IP for his work, but you will see anything from the "small glowing insect" to "naked small woman" to even "dog body horse face that eats children in the swamps". It's a really meaningless word.

I killed a wyrm and I got a dragon heart out of it so it's a dragon
I killed a wyvern called "dragon" and got a dragon soul, dragon scales, and dragon bones out of it so it's a dragon

Thanks for that GPT-4.
Now, Ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for "go fuck yourself" cake, with no "no u".

Warcraft did dragons best. Also I don’t know or care about anything that happened after wrath.

Why are dragons always so mean

medieval pictures

Using them as a reference for contemporary folktales and mythology is as dumb as using newspaper comics to prove Napoleon was a manlet. They had a vested interest in fucking up.

ywn bugchase the agonizing bacterial infection that a bite from a dragon's maw can inflict

why live

Urban myth, later research found their venom.

Wyverns have 4 legs, well 2 rear legs and 2 front hands that are part of the arms on the wing.
Skyrim dragons look so utterly retarded.

If it doesn't have a stinger it isn't a wyvern.

Not all dragons even have wings so therefore your argument is null, and you are in fact a big faggot, OP

What are some games with realistic authentic dragons?

Post dragons. If the game calls them dragons that is enough.

For all the gay retards in this thread:
The dragon-wyvern distinction is one made for heraldic devices.
The pre-modern mind was not this autistic when it came to actual animals.

Here’s your dragon, bro.

From the aberdeen bestiary circa 1200
The entry on dragons includes this illumination...

Hear me out

They're all dragons

Hold on a minute. So not only did they have dragons in Scotland in 1200 a.d., they also had elephants? Where did they go?

dragons dogma did dragons right

why does truth makes you so angry?

Hasbro knows more about local medieval culture than you ok

The entry is probably based off of a roman account which describes dragons in india predating on elephants. I forgoy the roman author's name though

Pussy ass dragons wouldn’t try that shit on an African elephant. Clearly jeetphants are inferior specimens.

T rex

Has 0 wings and 2 legs

Is a dragon

Checkmate

He never said that

Dumb post.
The medieval images of dragons being scrawny and inbred looking retards is self evidently propaganda because, even disregarding historical accounts of folklore referencing dragons the size of hills, or even fossils mistaken for dragon parts that were bigger, it’s absolutely retarded to assume that anyone would ever be afraid of such pathetic creatures, or that anyone would be considered a hero for slaying one.
They were depicted that way because it was the policy to show evil as pathetic and heroes as their inherent greater.
Rennaissance paintings such as Cadmus slaying the dragon that devoured his followers were a better account of how they would have been seen.

Thunder magic makes lightning bolts

Actually, if it doesn't have a turtle shell, it's not a dragon.

all these dragons are too thin