Literal Autism thread

Game is sold as having an amazing story

Play game

Utterly unable to care about character and their struggles

Become more interested in the world and the world building, or other aspects of the story

Get annoyed when the game obviously doesn't care about the world building/mystery/the magic system/the internal consistency of non-real elements

This happens a lot.
Who else here just genuinely fucking autistic?

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Autistic friend you should just filter every instance of "Game has a great story" as "Game has a lot of story" or "Game has a lot of cutscenes". That's what they actually mean.

That said, I love Nier Automata, you shouldn't be looking at it for it's internal consistency the Deakengard world is nonsense. It's interesting because of the blend with different narrative styles with very different game design philosophies to drive the experience, not because it's saying something profound about philosophy or has a great setting.

I don't care about the characters

le worldbuilding

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I mean, my issues with Nier A were very much that I couldn't care about the characters.
I found their existential fears to be melodramatic and unrelatable, and once you get past that, there's nothing endearing about the characters, with all their more interesting qualities being hidden behind implications from side quests.
Being unable to be genuinely interested in a characters arc is the death knell for many stories.
That's ultimately a subjective thing, because I know others got way too invested in 2B, but she's just a plank to me.

I didn't like it nor get it so game bad

Would she fuck to repopulate HUMANITY ?

no beauty mark

Ruined

with whom? every single human is dead on the moon

fantasy game

characters have magic

world still stuck in medieval europe despite this

no commission to manage these superfreaks

people with "weak" magic like making water/fire from NOTHING complain

despite being a total gamechanger

no magic users in the workforce

just all funneled into le guild or whatever to fight slimes

For some reason there's a very strange dissociation where the moment someone with powers gets a big hat and robe, redrawn in anime style, superpowers turn into "spells." Don't get me started on the rules and whatever and how mana should act like a limiter because if you conscripted low tier fags who can use fire spells you can just swap them out and have them take shifts, like, uh, a normal job.

The last human boy in cryosleep is waiting for her

Psychology is not credible. It's designations are degenerate. Don't appeal for attention by endorsing it.

Acting underneath such scum has nothing to do with games.

She hates humanity. The opening line of the game is wondering if she'll ever be able to kill God. God for the androids is humanity. She makes peace with them in the ending when your human data self manages to save them from a bad ending (hence the lyrics of Weight of the World where her PoV cries out for help), but she clearly has no real loyalty to humans unlike 9S.

all their more interesting qualities being hidden behind implications from side quests

that's the literal definition of good writing, when the most important and interesting aspect of a character aren't blatantly stated in the main events but are instead implied by the smaller events and filling dialogue between the main events.
and even then, no shit you couldn't care much about the character, N:A is a game that is literally more focused around the events and world building.

I know others got way too invested in 2B, but she's just a plank to me.

i hope you realize this is a huge contradiction, considering is those very same "hidden" implications that give 2B her characterization.

you literally ignored the good written parts of the game which give depth to its characters and then complained the game has bad writing with no depth to its characters

Her steel robot parts will NEVER be able to make a human baby

She has a built-in robotic womb anon...

She hates humanity.

Wouldn't have expected to find someone who actually understood 2B's character on Anon Babble of all places.

She hates everything she is exactly cause her own programming which she can't escape is to be loyal and caring towards the people who she, personally, hates the most exacly for putting her into the position of having to do her duty in this charade.

she doesn't, yoko taro confirmed that by default none of the androids even have genitals, and added that they could install them if they so desired, but also said they'd be only for recreational purposes and wouldn't be able to give birth, and that at most they would be able to mimic pregnancy without actually being able to become pregnant.

Quite tragic really

That won't stop them from trying

I am a diagnosed sperg but I've never had this problem
I think the story just didn't resonate with you

that isn't autistic that's just not caring for shitty YA writing that most "narrative" games have

Drakengard/Nier was never good with world consistency, but I agree with you OP that Automata's story just doesn't work without a bit of worldbuilding to go with it. It's hard to care about all the emotional stuff when it's all happening in complete vacuum. Doubly so in routes C/D where the game builds up hype through the roof, but it all leads to a complete nothing of an ending.

obfuscation is the literal definition of good writing

it isn't, you just want to feel smart for liking the sexbot game

I enjoyed the music more than the story and combat.
I'd run through zones instead of using the teleporter just to get the music.

the only stories where characterization is blatant and in your face are children stories and ones that are unanimously considered bad.
go read some actual books instead of getting your stories from videogames, and you'll find that ALL good books have their character characterization be hidden in smal details and "uninmportant" dialogues rather than in the main events.

A good written character is one who, during the main events of the story, acts like the personality that's been built during the smaller "unimportant" events.

obfuscation is the literal definition of good writing

NTA, but in a game where the main story is literally about the very fact of what is explicitly told being lies while the truth lies in what is instead just hinted at, yes it is

the main story is literally about the very fact of what is explicitly told being lies while the truth lies in what is instead just hinted at

One, your writing style hurts my fucking brain.
Two, the story is about searching for meaning and purpose in a world that doesn't care about you.

Might as well do a run of a Roguelike after all this. I'll be going for a Coglin Artificer of Chei in DCSS. I've been trying to get an Extended clear with it for a while, last time I got walled by Cerebrov as a Coglin of Okawaru. I had no access to damage boosters and even with Wand of Acid I couldn't kill the fucker. So hopefully Chei will help, but it will also make early-game very dangerous.

Wrong thread anon but tell me what game this is, sounds fun

That is on her face not her ass

the last time I checked books don't have side quests that are missable

Not everything is a fucking DnD campaign, you retard. I hate this obsession people have now with "worldbuilding" over characters.

low empathy autist is confused by others relating to characters unlike themselves

She's a real woman then.

You re gonna love Outer Wilds.
Nothing about the game just is, everything is there for a reason.
Play without DLC first, then add it once you are done with the game.

ask people to call me nines

they dont

Oh, I have played it.

It rocketed to one of my favorite games of all time immediately.

that's just low iq

Do people actually find 2B to be relatable?
She's not endearing.
I like non-relatable characters that are endearing, or entertaining.

have autism

hyper empathetic

what does it mean
why am I like this

Automata was a massive disappointment coming off Replicant in love with Automata hyped to hell and back, but I still respect it as a game. Pretty sure some of the more outrageous praise is just people high on 2B's farts though.

For me it's being hyper empathetic towards inanimate objects

explain

Do people actually find 2B to be relatable?

Even if they don't the average person can UNDERSTAND and sympathize with her.

born specifically to betray her comrades if they learn too much.

has to kill the guy she has spent the most time with over and over while developing feelings for him.

comes to hate god (humanity, to androids) for putting her into this situation.

becomes emotionally constipated

I consider Nier Automata the best bad game of all time. Everything it could do poorly it did perfectly poorly. Amazing combat ruined by awful balance. Open map ruined by backtracking 8 times. Wonderful characters ruined by horribly executed drama writing. Depth ruined by neccessity to read external media. Amazing music that's too loud and repetitive. End the final boss being end credits. There is more. I played it year ago. Just remember the game has cult following and they have years of experience dismissing all criticism of the game. But it's awful. I would like to play it again, but then i remember i would need to do the prologue and play as a twink with that stupid hacking attack.

People don't relate to entire characters, they relate to scenarios and emotions.
And most of the time it's not even relating to them, but self-inserting into them.

It's not.

Have you considered that you may just have bad taste? Nothing to be ashamed about.

He's correct about everything he said. I've also never seen a game where the gap between production value and actual game quality was so wide.

That happens to me a lot of media in general actually.
And then people tell me "shut the fuck up. It's about the characters", and I'm confused because the characters are kind of boring.

Yes, I am autistic.

Combat balance is alright, unless you just rush through the entire story.
Backtracking is a literal non-issue; you can literally fast travel everywhere.
There's literally nothing wrong with the writing (with the exception that certain Japanese tropes may feel alien).
The game is perfectly encapsulated, with external media only adding to the story.
Oh and

music is too loud

Seriously, what kind of retarded boomer complaint is this?

Now watch as you go

nuh-uh

and accuse me of suffering from some flavour of insanity.

I'm autistic and I like characters as much as I like world building. I fished in nier automata specifically because some of the fish (mostly the machine fish iirc) had some extra world building in the data logs.

I did, it's one of the responses you cultists use. And no, i don't have a bad taste; i play games i enjoy and getting irked was part of the experience. All that juvenile philosophy, attempts to hint on depth, tragic events meant to invoke sadness, cryptic messages stimulating imagination and all that ruined by lose ends, irrational reactions, unreasonable choices, ridiculous warfare tactics and almost comical symbolism. I don't have bad taste, I am just older.

nta and I love this game but if you do a bunch of side quests you can easily out level the main story to the point of killing bosses with dialogue before they can finish it, at least on normal which most people are going to pick on the first playthrough since it's pretty brutal at the start on hard.

music is too loud

The robot village was particularly cacophonic.

I'm not that anon so my complaints are slightly different, but:

Combat balance is alright

Maybe the level system, but combat outside of dedicated arena DLC is just boring. It's either button mashing and dodging massively telegraphed attacks, staying back and tickling guys to death, really basic big guy bossfights or barebones shmup.

Backtracking is a literal non-issue

Sure, whatever.

There's literally nothing wrong with the writing

You know the part where 2B is infected and has to get away from androids so she doesn't infect them, so the pod leads her to the only place on the map with androids in it where she's saved by the android that she doesn't infect? Automata's story changes on a whim to fit the emotional stuff which is an ass-backwards way to make a story.

music is too loud

Not my exact complaint either, but vocals in Nier were leagues better.

The backtracking complaint i made was what it did to the exploring, instead of entering new and new areas, touching uncharted ground, the game just spawns a thing and puts it on part of the map you explored. So the game just turns into "get quest, follow marker to this random corner where a thing spawned, fast travel there and back". It's such arbitrary game play. And Nier is full of it. Reusing map multiple times. I was so mad when i found out Copied City is just tiny location with dead end. I only knew 2b and copied city theme for years before playing. I was so disappointed. Compare that to the satisfaction from exploring Dark Souls. Another issue with backtracking was that needed the twink to reap the reward of your exploration. I don't like playing as the twink. A was great. But B and later it was just getting dumb and the game turned into chore where i was losing the immersion. I saw that the game was build around getting 100%. I am not target audience for that.

this too. A lot of people get confused when I reference Pikmin as a game with good storytelling, because it's not cinematic cutscenes with people monologging at each other for way too long(and probably about politics or sex).

Not him, but

You know the part where 2B is infected and has to get away from androids so she doesn't infect them, so the pod leads her to the only place on the map with androids in it where she's saved by the android that she doesn't infect? Automata's story changes on a whim to fit the emotional stuff which is an ass-backwards way to make a story.

so the pod leads her to the only place on the map with androids

It doesnt. There are places that were known to have androids like the resistance camp, but remember that this whole thing happend after the logic virus outage, so infected Yorha androids were running around everywhere (lore wise at least). Also, keep in mind that she meant, uninfected ones.

also

so the pod leads her to the only place on the map with androids in it where she's saved by the android that she doesn't infect

I mean, If you played the game you knew that androids went into rampage mode after getting infected, so It would make sense she would want to avoid her turning into a beast while near the resistance camp, since we know she is a type e model.
And literally the whole point of A2 killing her was so she doesnt turn and start killing everything.
The story of the game is not a problem, everything makes sense and is explained. You just dont understand It lol

2B is a conceptually cool character, that I could tell you nothing about as a person.
The first Nier had way better characters.
Automata has robot girls in gothic lolita fashion, which is neat, but ultimately shallow.

characters unlike themselves

except 2b has no character of any kind to relate to. She is quite literally nothing but a nice ass to look at

Everything make sense in retrospective. After reddit explains it. Everyone goes to reddit after completing the game to read the 7 years old threads. I did it, you did it. The more lucky asked the genius gooner themselves.

NieR Gestalt had better characters and better side characters. You actually get to care about them. I felt absolutely nothing for the entire Automata cast aside from Pascal's breakdown. You could not pay me to give a shit about 9S or 2B as characters.

Sadly that's kinda the way with the english dub. They tried to make her more autistic, because she was hiding a secret, but they over did It obviously and just killed her whole character. The japanese script is muuch better, and the anime improved on It, so the VA herself was not the issue.

Filtered.
Autistic sperg thinks empathy and sympathy are the same thing. Incapable of seeing the world outside of their own perspective.

nahh, I just read the novelization they released. I am pretty sure It's called like "Long story, short" aswell as "Short story, long". But to be fair, the arguments he(?) made were kinda dumb and you could figure It out If you thought about It for more than 5 seconds, instead of looking for reasons to argue in bad belief lol

while near the resistance camp

She starts out nowhere near the camp and she has to get CLOSER first to get to the mall. Hell, she starts out right next to a deep body of water so the best thing to do if she wanted to off herself was jump in and not get rescued by the pod. Like I said, it's all made up on the spot so that the whole 2B/A2/9S event has an excuse to happen.

I really couldn't find myself caring about 2B or A2 and I hated that fag 9S
The first Nier had much better characters, for me at least

I closed that chapter and forgot most of it because it was not important but the worldbuilding was incredibly shallow and focused on symbolism and future revisions and fan headcanon were not part of the game and thus removed from consideration. The tv show did better job and i enjoyed it up to the point where they run out of budget, but still, not part of the game. Try playing Oblivion without the nostalgia. Nier is like that.

Try playing Oblivion without the nostalgia. Nier is like that.

A good video game?

I did care, and so i hated the game for giving zero tools and options to help them. I was dragged into it wondering why are they allowed to be so incredibly stupid.

yo nigga that's deeeeep

Absolutely false. She starts out in the flooded city, which leads through the pipe almost straight to the resistance camp lmao If she got infected, she would have almost a straight path there. Also I am pretty sure the logic virus was healable (9S heals It, you can get It as an effect while fighting infected corpses of other players) so the idea was:
- get far away
- try to do something about the virus there, where it's safer. She also knew that 9S was coming, since they can ping blackboxes.

so the best thing to do if she wanted to off herself was jump in and not get rescued by the pod.

But she didnt want to kill herself though. Like I've written before, the logic virus is healable and 9S could heal her, (Until her eyes got red, since I think that meant her OS chip got overtaken)

Also, If her intention was to kill herself, then she could have just taken off the OS chip. You can literally do that in the game and It auto kills you. Also, wasnt there a bonus ending If you kill yourself in that section? I dont really remember anymore.

because it was not important but the worldbuilding was incredibly shallow and focused on symbolism and future revisions

not really

and fan headcanon were not part of the game and thus removed from consideration.

Didnt mention a single headcanon. I am going straight through what was mentioned in the game, aswell as the official side media.
Yes, not every lore explanation is smeared onto your face, but that's good because It helps the pacing. The whole point of side media is to explain side stuff that are not important to the main plot of the game. Like for example the dumb shit arguments that are being thrown in this thread.
I am pretty sure Yoko Taro has a rule of "dont focus the main story around things that are not significant to the main plot." and you can see It in all of his games. Replicant also doesnt force the whole "why is It always day" or other stuff in your face, instead It's explained in side quests, because that's the point of side quests in a narrative focused game lol

Good thread. Even as someone without autism I have noticed most people are incapable of relaying a story back after experiencing it and put all their attention on the character. Personally, I blame professional wrestling for this. No I am not kidding either.

If she got infected, she would have almost a straight path there

And she'd have just as straight a path from the mall to the camp, so what she did makes even less sense compared to just drowning.

- get far away

- try to do something about the virus there, where it's safer.

She doesn't say that once. She just asks the pod for a location with no androids.

She also knew that 9S was coming, since they can ping blackboxes.

Which is why she sent him AWAY 30 seconds before she landed? Is she retarded?

Like I've written before, the logic virus is healable and 9S could heal her

Again, she wouldn't have sent 9S away against his wish if this is what she intended to do.

Also, If her intention was to kill herself, then she could have just taken off the OS chip. You can literally do that in the game and It auto kills you.

Exactly. You're this close to realizing that none of this makes sense and is contrived to make the big emotional moment happen.

top five things you relate to about 2B

Having a massive ass

That's Xenoblades Chronicles 2. Well exept that last part. It is the first JRPG that I 100% because the sidequests were more compelling than the story, to the point that I'm almost mad that the MC recreated the world to make it less magical.

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I really wish i had it all fresh in my head after i completed the game. I spend several more days soaking it in, reading the manga, the anime came not short afterward, i had fun immersing myself, fixing bits, enjoying the potential. Right now, i just remember i don't want to replay it because it open with prologue where bunch of yorhas die like bunch of retards with you as well except you don't. So why did them. You know what i mean? The game just isn't consistent with itself. It's not one stream, but multiple paths you enter at random places and leave again as walk on grass between them. Like those two redheads. You just want to get on that path of their story, but the game prohibits you. "Nah, oaf, see that dog shit, you going to step on that." And don't give crap about pacing, there is that part underground where you get exposition dump during a boss fight. or that things were explained in side quests, nah, side quests just made me ask more questions because they answered nothing, they just pointed out there might be more. Great. Can I learn more about that repaired yorha that dude made so he has family? Nope. Here is your three lines and "a hint" what happened afterwards. Ask fans.

And she'd have just as straight a path from the mall to the camp, so what she did makes even less sense compared to just drowning.
not really. There would be a whole ass crater on her way.

She doesn't say that once. She just asks the pod for a location with no androids.

I mean, the pod says that she needs to heal, and then she suggest it. Maybe It sounds clearer in the Jap script? dunno, dont remember the exact way It was phrased in the english script.

Which is why she sent him AWAY 30 seconds before she landed? Is she retarded?

She sent him away so she he doesnt get infected in the fight. The idea was to take the attention of the enemies on her, while he gets to safety. Isnt It like obvious?
Also she didnt just "land". Her mech was literally destroyed and she fell on the ground, damaging her whole body. That's literally how the virus came in.

Again, she wouldn't have sent 9S away against his wish if this is what she intended to do.

She sent him before she got infected lol

Exactly. You're this close to realizing that none of this makes sense and is contrived to make the big emotional moment happen.

She didnt want to kill herself.

amazing story

game

lmao

it open with prologue where bunch of yorhas die like bunch of retards with you as well except you don't.

None of them actually "die" though. Their memories are still saved somewhere in the bunker server. They just are not synced up to the point after the mission started. Also, they were killed by target artillery, 2B literally didnt die only because 9S takes It down. It's at the start of route B lol.
I didnt understand the rest of your post, sorry :p

Though the point of the side quest with that repaired yorha dude was probably not the dude himself, so that's why they didnt focus on him. He literally just gets killed by some random Type E model, his fate is pretty clearly stated. Also, you know you can return there? Try It in your next playthrough, If you'll go about doing one.

"beauty" mark

Shit taste, negro

The average IRL woman doesn't feel any strong form of hate or love

That's odd.
There should have been a 2Bomb post by now.

There would be a whole ass crater on her way.

One she can easily get around compared to the exit from the Flooded City leading into the crater.

She sent him away so she he doesnt get infected in the fight.

So she sent him away so he doesn't get infected in a fight you couldn't get infected in unless your body got damaged, which happened AFTER the fight, presumably because 2B had to deal with everything alone rather than take advantage of the one occasion where 9S had the same amount of firepower, and all that just to (presumably) try to find 9S who she would kill if she failed to make it in time? You're just making it sound more retarded than it already is.

How the fuck is getting immersed autism
Words really mean nothing now
You're not autistic, you're fucking stupid

>There would be a whole ass crater on her way.

So she sent him away so he doesn't get infected in a fight you couldn't get infected in unless your body got damaged, which happened AFTER the fight, presumably because 2B had to deal with everything alone rather than take advantage of the one occasion where 9S had the same amount of firepower, and all that just to (presumably) try to find 9S who she would kill if she failed to make it in time? You're just making it sound more retarded than it already is.

And you are making It sound like you played the game on youtube, or didnt pay attention.
It played out like this:
- They get attacked in air,
- They cant manage to damage them,
- 2B takes over 9S controls to make him land safely,
- She shields him from all the damage so he can land,
- She gets damaged and infected, breaking down on the ground,
- She decides to look for a place where there are no other androids, so she wont hurt them If she turns,
- She turns when she gets there,
- A2 kills her, because It's too late.

Is It really that complicated? lol
Yes, I also though It was strange that she send 9S away, but It makes sense from an emotional standpoint. ""Respawns"" were gone. Dying meant actual end, and 2B wanted 9S to live an actual life, that she were taking away from him for so long, so she made an emotional choice on the go. Perhaps It was a way for her to atone? You assume that all characters will make 100% logicaly focused decisions in tense moments, which doesnt actually have to be the case.

Not really related but I saw 2B and that got me thinking. At what point will sexbots be a thing? And I don't mean a talking sex doll or whatever. At what point will we ever have a full fledged robot sex companion? A robot that will not only meet your physical needs but also thinks for itself, can have a fluid conversation with you, can do chores, cook, protect your home and shit. Is this kind of technology even possible right now? Is this something we'll even see in our lifetimes? Will the worlds governments even allow AI to have that level of autonomy?

- They cant manage to damage them,

IIRC this part of the game plays out like every other shmup section, so it's not communicated at all.

- She decides to look for a place where there are no other androids, so she wont hurt them If she turns,

You contradicted yourself you said previously that she might've been looking for 9S. And again if she wanted a place with no androids, she could've stayed where she landed.
You're making excuses and headcanon where none is needed. Taro wanted a big emotional moment so the story contorted to provide.

dude i'm so autistic haha

kill yourself

IIRC this part of the game plays out like every other shmup section, so it's not communicated at all.

Not really. You literally do 0 damage to them, and 2B yells out that she cant hurt them.

You contradicted yourself you said previously that she might've been looking for 9S.

Never claimed that in ur discussion. I claimed that 9S was going towards her, but we know he landed in the desert, so It would take a bit before he managed to get to her.
It also shows how you pay attention.

She also knew that 9S was coming.

And again if she wanted a place with no androids, she could've stayed where she landed.

No she couldnt, because It was very close to the resistance camp. She wanted to go far away from them, that was literally the whole point. That's why she went to the opposite direction of the camp.

You're making excuses and headcanon where none is needed.

No headcanon. All in game and side material.

I'll quote you in full:

Also I am pretty sure the logic virus was healable (9S heals It, you can get It as an effect while fighting infected corpses of other players) so the idea was:

- get far away

- try to do something about the virus there, where it's safer. She also knew that 9S was coming, since they can ping blackboxes.

You pretty much said that she wanted to find 9S so he could fix her. I get how you don't see any problem with the story if even a tiny conclusion like this is a big surprise for you.

It was very close to the resistance camp

How the fuck was it "very close"? You have to get to the pipe, then through the sewers, then out the sewers to the crater, then out the crater. Meanwhile from the mall to the camp it's literally a straight line across the left side of the map. You could probably make it faster to the camp from the mall than from the flooded area.

It's not about relating you fucking sperg its about understanding where she's coming from. Autistic people should be put in camps.

That's not an answer.

Is this game boring for anyone else?

You are incapable of understanding hypotheticals or seeing from someone else's perspective. You aren't fully human.

You're the only one showing that you are incapable of answering a very simple question. Could it be that you're not fully human?

That's all Yokoslop.
I didn't find it boring because I was invested in the story and I was already used to playing tedious crap after going through the previous games.

And I didnt mention anywhere that she was trying to get to him. I literally spelled the events out for you. She wanted to get away from other androids before she goes crazy. Maybe It was not communicated directly enough in the game for you to get It, but if so, you can read that scene from 2Bs perspective in the novel, though I personally believe that It was straight forward enough in the game.
I only mentioned that 9S 'could' technicaly fix her, but he was too far away at that time anyways.

How the fuck was it "very close"? You have to get to the pipe, then through the sewers, then out the sewers to the crater, then out the crater.

The camp is literally right above you after you leave the sewer, which is literally a straight line.

Meanwhile from the mall to the camp it's literally a straight line across the left side of the map.

Not really a straight line, but that's not the point. It's far away enough for her zombied version to not accidentaly stumble accros the camp. Also keep in mind that she didnt even make It to her destination point.
And no, you couldnt make It faster. The flooded city literally aligns itself with the resistance camp on your map. They are right next to eachother, but you have to go the path around It in the game.

I dont know but i wish my butt could be fat as the 2B's butt...

Yes. It's worth keeping in mind that Drakengard and Nier are primarily games for teenagers going through their 'my tastes are fucking superior' phase.

Yoko games are generally badly written, bad to play, and the only reason there's been any mainstream appeal to them at all recently is 2B's ass.

This appeals to kind of people who think something being bad on purpose makes it good and like having a "gatekept series" that most people don't want to get into.

I have actual autism, and I don't have this problem

Post your 3x3

point proven

I was diagnosed in 5th grade. So me. I get annoyed a lot when something doesnt meet my expectations, but ive gotten better at managing my expectations.

Truth nuke.

Yeah and? Reddit is home to some of the smartest minds on the planet. It should be where everyone gets their opinions from.

You pseuds, she doesn't hate humanity, every time she finds something about human remnants she never reacts in an angry way, the one she hates is Yoko Taro, the author himself, because he placed her in this pitiful position on purpose to create drama to create a compelling story and this is also his self-flagellation moment for making all these previous stories about making his characters suffer. She never makes peace with the "god", at the end she's glad to see 9S and not have to kill him anymore.

Literally the only thing people like about Yokotaro's work is the stories he tells.
You thinking the games are badly written is a literal skill issue.

Though kinda true with the "gatekeep series", but more because they are inacessible on modern hardware (without emulation), rather than them being bad to play. The nier games play just fine and there is nothing wrong with them? Like, you can find issues that exist due to budget constraints, but it's nothing on the level of shovelware or many dogshit AAA games tropes. Even the fetch shit in Replicant at least has something fun build around It, unlike for example Final Fantasy 16, with It's soulless quests you just skip through.
I especially disagree that they are badly written, or that they suck to play. Unless you mean the drakengard games. Yes, they suck to play (they are as monotone, as most current AAA, where you just spam the same combo over and over) and most of their story is hidden behind lore side stories, but they have some reedeming features too.

It's definetly not a normiecore series, because of how hard It is to get into, but they are definetly worth playing through.
I dont think the nier games are bad on purpose. I dont think they are bad at all, though I know some claim that drakengard 1 is "bad on purpose" which of course is super gay. I played It recently and It fine. Nothing terribly bad gameplay wise, but the music and atmosphere kept me around to the finished line, because the story was super meh. Probably because It was censored

Yoko Taro stole 2B's design in 2015 from some 8-chan user. Follow other people's dreams, make millions.

I LIKE Big girls
Pretty Kitty Girls
Really Witty Girls
Singing Ditty Girls
I like the Leggy Girls
With the Nice Thighs
I like a Good Chest
No matter what size
I like the Belly Folds
I like the Six Packs
Really Tall Queens
and the Short Stacks
from the Mild Girls
to the Wild Girls
you got style, Girls
make em riled, Girls

Yeah, I just really like girls (˘◡˘ )

also known as 2Butt

psychopaths are also neurodivergent and low empathy but can turn it into a strength and weapon, you know.

game was revealed in mid 2015

this means yokotard waited until the last possible moment to pick a design for his main character

That explains why they stopped letting him work on real games and threw him into gacha hell

Proof?