Maelle did nothing wrong.
Maelle did nothing wrong
Verso was in the right though.
Also, I will NOT play the piano
Just finished it
Picked Maelle because I didn't want to let go of all the expeditioners that I built up a relationship with throughout the game.
But when I heard Verso saying "I don't want this life" like that I just knew I chose the wrong ending. The sequence at the end where he plays the piano like a slave is even worse.
So I went back and did the Verso ending, which is the proper way to deal with grief. Think about it, by staying in the canvas she's invalidating his whole sacrifice that saved her life from the fire. Not only that, the canvas was destroying the whole family by tearing it apart. I much prefer this ending to the other one.
Also holy shit is this game good. Easy GOTY unless there's gonna be some bullshit robbery.
Yes you will.
It's time to stop painting.
They're pretty much all her slaves. They exist purely to give her an escape from reality
I hated the twist. Nothing in this world really matters, all the themes of sacrifice and keeping hope in a dismal situation get discarded for "IT WAS A METAPHOR FOR GRIEF GET IT"
Fucking hate that shit. Don't get me invested in a narrative and completely change it at the end and expect me to still care
Is it even worth "moving on" if she'll live half blind, mute and with a plethora of health problems? If it's a lifetime outside for a lifetime inside, wouldn't she be happier in the canvas? Does it matter where she's living said lifetime?
The real best outcome for everyone (maybe not for painted Verso) would be for moderation, but we know she is just going to indulge and never come back until she passes.
It wouldn't have been like that if Verso hadn't gotten Gustave killed.
Nothing in this world really matters
You played the game and that was your takeaway from it?
If this was only about her I'd agree that staying in the canvas would be an okay outcome, but it's affecting the whole family. Both her and Aline would be in the canvas, while Clea and Renoir would live on with an even more broken family.
That's true. At the end of the day, someone will be hurt.
My takeaway was that the painted world is just a playground for Maelle and arguably isn't even really full of sentient beings because we never really learn how the magic works. Are the people of Lumiere really sentient, or do they just act like it? Can Painters literally just create life out of thin air, or the illusion of it? If it's the former, the game itself doesn't really explore that theme, the weight of that. The ultimate question is just "which life is better for Alicia, Maelle's fantasy world or her real world".
Which to me felt like it thematically discarded most of what had happened to that point. All the previous expeditions sacrificing to get a little further for the next one...it was all just illusions of this simulated world.
Maelle should move on, and the story about grief was impactful, but all that was introduced very late and I just wasn't invested in that story line as a result
There's an inherent hollowness to living a fake life. it's not like she's been deluded in the end into thinking it's real. You see on her face that she's very aware that she's living a lie. Her ending just seems hollow.
Also they have powerful magic in her world, don't tell me they can't heal her somewhat
play Une vie à t'aimer
"STOP PAINTING"
"NO"
"FUCK YOU"
"AAAAAAAAA"
kino
Lol, is this a trace of the painting by Cabanal?
le epic star wars reference
Very fitting.
what the fuck did they mean by this btw?
also spot the tpose
I still don't get the meaning of most of her nightmares. Then again, i haven't replayed yet as i'm still doing postgame stuff.
name one (01) painting cooler than this
(you can't)
The Two Crowns by Frank Dicksee.
Better to reign in hell than serve in paradise. That really sums up the Maelle ending.
It's a villain ending some people seem to think was the good ending
that's pretty bussin
Sure
Faithful Unto Death - Edward John Poynter
Painted Alicia
The real victim of the story
jewish anti-humanist nu-"art"
What was Renoir's reaction once Alice got booted out of the canvas? You think he assumed she was the one who made the decision to leave? Or did he knew she got kicked out? Would she tell him?
Verso did not exist according to versofags
The only person in this story that matters is Maelle
probably hugged her
I sort of have a feeling he's the only one who'd show her any affection. Her mom and Clea certainly wouldn't. Also, is the pupper still alive?
Why was Verso mad at Maelle for erasing P!Alicia if he wanted to destroy the canvas and killed everything in it anyway?
Correct me if i'm wrong, but at that point he was still helping take down Renoir, right? It was only at the very end he ultimately changed his mind. Also, i'm pretty sure he was pissed at not being able to say goodbye.
if he wanted to destroy the canvas
he didnt want that at that point of the game
You think he assumed she was the one who made the decision to leave?
Nah, Renoir knew Alicia was lying about leaving and was just gonna trance out until she died. If she got booted out I assume Renoir would know what happened and comfort her, since that's literally the ending of the game.
Because he didn't get a chance to say goodbye. Play the fucking game, dude.
Play the fucking game, dude.
Not him but I'm 100% sure people like him are zoomers that get distracted by their phones during cutscenes.
This is why there's so much iliteracy in these threads.
He didn't get the chance to lie to her face again.
What would you describe Maelle's and Verso's relationship like? They don't consider each other siblings outright, and by the end there's some resentment on both sides?
girl named Alicia
goes into a land full of wonders
Oh, I see...
Let's talk about Renoir, a punished father that wanted the best for his family and everyone involved (including lumierans, gestrals, and those furry fatboys)
He made the Axons, but what do they all mean? It is told everything Renoir paints has layers of meaning.
Let's start with the easiest one, the selfish roastie Alicia. Her axon is hiding inside a literally giant vagina. This is because Renoir knows she's a fucking baby with 0 maturity under her belt. BUT, he wishes Alicia would get out of the fucking womb and fly by herself, the sky is her limit but she just refuses to move on and take the lead of her life.
Sirene I assume its suppose to represent Aline, graceful and beautiful, her powers mind controls people and show them happy memories. What does this all mean tho?
The dead Axon I assume its suppose to represent Clea since she's the most mysterious of them all and its fitting that she's the one we don't get to fight. Plus Simon killed (released) her.
Verso's axon was all about MASKS, it is well known he's a pathological liar. Renoir, his own dad, knew about this? Renoir knew Verso was hiding under layers and layers of masks? Was real life verso as much of a psychopath as painted verso was? (psychoapths are known for masking themselves in society)
What do you nigs think about the axons?
why do you make the same post every thread?
When exactly were the axons made again?
After the Fracture, when Aline shielded herself within the barrier
So the timeline of the canvas is:
Kid Verso paints it
Him and Clea go play in it throughout their childhood (not Alicia?)
Gestrals, Esquie etc are made
Verso dies in the fire
Aline escapes into the canvas, creates Lumiere and its citizens
Renoir goes after her after she spends a little too much time in there
Fracture happens
Axons are created by Renoir, Clea makes the Nevrons
Expeditions start
Is that it?
Yeah, you got it.
I'm not really sure why Renoir divided his power and then needed all that chroma he used back, to break the barrier tho. Why didn't he just break the barrier to begin with?
On second thought, maybe he needed more chroma, so the axons were chroma collectors, killing expeditioners and absorbing their chroma so their chroma don't go back to Aline, but Renoir instead, thus slowly winning the war.
On one hand
Renoir and clea could fix the problems
On the other hand
Alicia could never have grown as a person if he was the one to do it
It to me is the meaning of the Reacher, and the
I have vertigo
Remarks
Better that the world she yearned for
Verso's
Reject her than her force herself unto it
If Lumiere was created alongside its citizens, and we know for a fact they have children, past generations and i assume some recorded history, how did they even came to be? Did Aline create them and "implanted" memories of Lumiere being founded or something? Because wouldn't it be weird for them to simply just... Begin existing? We know about the Fracture but what about the history before that?
Time definitely works differently or was definitely outlined to have happened, there's no way it would make sense for a 1:1 passage and occurrence of time
I believe the original lumierans were designed with the memories Aline had of people around real life paris.
Because as you said, it would be weird to pop up out of nowhere with no recorded memory or history.
Aline must have gotten inspiration from somewhere to create the first lumierans.
I've never played this game, someone redpill me on it.
Does it have good romance options?
fuck off coomer.
Ehh.... Let's just go with no.
what was causing the original gommages? iirc it was said the numbers were intended to be a warning by aline since her powers were waning the longer she spent in the canvas, so was the gommage just an automatic product of that or was it renoir abusing aline's weakness to slowly clean up the canvas
Does it have good romance options
The French should've made Maelle a romance option but didn't so the answer is no.
Renoir, he started by deleting Aline's older creations because she'd rather protect the new ones.
It's called an "homage" since it's a famous pose from a well-known piece of art. The viewer is meant to think of the original piece when looking at it and compare the two subjects.
or was it renoir abusing aline's weakness to slowly clean up the canvas
This. Aline could only protect so many people at once, over time chroma went to Renoir and he powered up in relation to her.
No, the game hard punishes self inserting, there are some "prison gay" (but heterosexual) type of sex to lose stress in a terrible situation, and they make the endings even worse.
How the FUCK do you make a sequel to this. They have a separate patent for Clair Obscur, so it's going to be some overarching Final Fantasy deal.
You can't set it in another constructed world, because the twist got used up and there are no stakes, and everyone would know not to attach to painted/drawn/written people.
Or do you go full FF and just write a new universe with some shared elements?
Silly anon
The romance options are for the male protag
Maelle is for the player to connect with
Prety easily. Just make an anthology series where each game is about a different artistic dicipline. Why do you think they dropped the stuff about Writers in there?
It's a game made by the fr*nch. What do you think?
Just make an anthology series where each game is about a different artistic dicipline.
Why would (You) care about written people though, in a Writer game? We have seen that the demiurges will discard them on a whim.
You're right. But Maelle stops existing at the end of Act 2, and Alicia did do everything wrong.
Maelle (and the fags who support her ending) needs to grow up
If Aline is the demiurge, Mael is Yahwey
The French should've gone full degenerate and let Verso fuck Maelle/Alicia.
Anyone else feels like a monster for simply sweeping the entire world map with how powerful their team is?