Why precisely is this board so insanely obsessed with metrics? Why do steam charts...

To be fair talking a game positively IS shilling. You're promoting a commercial product, even when you aren't being paid for it.
Realizing that made me unwilling to discuss games ever again.

I dont really care, only time I use them is for multiplayer games to make sure im not getting into a dead game, take v rising for example

oh this game looks fu-

playerbase is practically dead outside the two weeks after the yearly update

other than that they can be funny, like transguard, or that one game that was getting beat in player by fucking gollum. GOLLUM.

Because AAA marketing accounts keep misinforming to outright lying, and no one else is calling them on it.

It isn't.

Many people on this world don't live happy lives

Fixed you.
If you didn't notice this wolrd is slowly collapsing, everything is slowly becoming worse and worse.
And you have to understand that not everyone is utterly souless and braindead 3d cardboard cutout like you.

They don't but they piss off shills who have a vested interest in shitting up the catalog. Watching you melting down with threads like these will never stop being funny

It is. You aren't a shill (as, someone working directly for the publisher or the developer) but you're still doing the shill's work.
Call it unpaid marketing job if you want to make the distinction from the very definition of shilling.

Anon Babble will do anything to not play video games.

objective facts vs. marketing feels

"Soon we'll be living in a post-apocalyptic dystopia, two more weeks!"

dancing dog: me

two more weeks!

god i fucking wish

Nailed it

You can spend most of the day talking to strangers towards the internet
You have a roof over your head
You have food in you fridge and money in your wallet
You live a peaceful life

Why do you want all of this to go away?

Thank you for exemplifying what I said

Things are shit right now, and people like seeing bad things bomb. Especially spiteful things.

it's the most immediate way to make fun of a game since it doesn't involve actually playing it to spot the flaws and make up an argument

Pajeetification

If feel like you're on an extremely cucked worldview here, bro. How are small devs/creators/musicians/whatever supposed to compete with Schekelberg Industries, if not for positive word of mouth? If I like a thing, I will support it in hopes that more of the thing gets made. That doesn't make me a shill, it's in my own interst.

Unironically this. We need flags

How are small devs/creators/musicians/whatever supposed to compete with Schekelberg Industries, if not for positive word of mouth?

They should pay for said word of mouth rather than having useful idiots like you working for free.

If I like a thing, I will support it in hopes that more of the thing gets made. That doesn't make me a shill, it's in my own interst.

It literally does. A shill receives a payment in money while you receive a payment in the form of more product (that you paid for!).

I'm not. But I'm not white either.
Doesn't change the fact that I did my part buying the game; I paid the developers and publishers for their work and that's all they should expect from me.
If they want someone to promote their product then they should hire people, not expect me to do their job.

So you never talk about things you like?

I do but only on the vaguest sense and only on a very surface level to keep a conversation going:

"I saw a documentary about ...."

"I watched a movie about ...."

I don't talk about videogames with anyone else besides Anon Babble, and I stopped talking about videogames here as I already explained.

Are you aware that this is weird and will negatively impact your social relationships?

Those people have grown out of gaming but they still find bloodsports "gaming discourse" very engaging. So since they don't play the games themselves, they have to discuss secondary quality markers.

I personally find weirder to go

"today has been a cold morning, anon"

"Yup. Do you know what we need for this cold? RPG Indie Game no. 1355 made by Indiesoft, it's only $14 on Steam right now!"

You can engage in conversation without shilling someone else's commercial products.

I want the games to fail for other reasons, the metrics are to let me know that I am getting what I want.

Inability to exercise critical thinking skills.

because we're men and we go by facts
only women go by feelings, and no you will never actually be one

i mean we just had magazines and forums and stuff to go off of for game reception i guess. i admit i do not miss renting a random game as a kid and having it turn out to be liquid shit and then having nothing new to play.

Zoomers. Grown men don't care about others' sale numbers/profit

Damn, that's actually a great way to describe it

The only fact is the actual number. Expanding on it in a way that the number determines the quality of the thing is your feelings, and means nothing critically.

Yeah, that would be weirder because it's an absurd scenario that doesn't happen.

Something closer to reality would be:

Hey man, what have you been doing recently?

Mostly hanging out and playing vidya.

Oh yeah, what games?

Recently I really like RPG Indie Game no. 1355, it has a pretty rad class system that reminds me off Classic SRPG, and art from Tomomatsu Chinkman. It's really dope.

Oh, that sounds interesting, I might check it out. Wanna play AAA multiplayer slop later?

Nah, but we can play modded version of of classic RTS, I can send you a link.

Nice!

It's autism born out of some idea that any big number has to be good and being with that number means being smug.

And the dopamine release of being smug about something is VERY intoxicating. Even if it's stupid shit like being condescending about metrics for single player games that people put away because they beat it until they feel like replaying it again (Which I just never got beyond trolling. Am I supposed to just play Bioshock over and over again to keep a number up that I don't give a shit about?)

is it autism? don't autists play games for thousands of hours? this has always seemed like normalfag shit.

Recently I really like RPG Indie Game no. 1355, it has a pretty rad class system that reminds me off Classic SRPG, and art from Tomomatsu Chinkman. It's really dope.

See? Literal marketer talk, and you aren't being paid for it.
You aren't a human being; you're an advertisement bot.

You sound like the kind of guy that gets angry at people making original content calling them attention whores

Please let me know how the conversation should go in your opinion.

Like this:

Hey man, what have you been doing recently?

Mostly hanging out and playing vidya.

Oh yeah, what games?

A couple action RPGs and a turn based one. The action ones are pretty decent while the turn-based one is so-so.

Oh, that sounds interesting

[move to other topics]

shills clogging the board day and night

"play this game! play that game! it's the latest thing! you don't want to miss out on this huge trend!"

mildly annoying

it continues

harder to find good threads

shilling intensifies

absolutely incandescent anger

counter the shills by laughing at poor metrics

I hate advertisers, and there is nothing that hurts you people more than poor sales performance being pointed out. I would not care about metrics if shills would just. fuck. off.

>A couple action RPGs and a turn based one. The action ones are pretty decent while the turn-based one is so-so.

What's the best of the action RPGs, Anon? I'm looking for stuff to play.

At that point my reply would be

"I don't really recommend games. In my personal opinion two people don't share the same tastes so what is good to me probably isn't good for you."

You can't stop the power of word of mouth. It's the oldest and most reliable form of marketing since we traded sea shells to each other. Just accept it, and it all becomes easier to deal with.

Also that's a retarded opinion. Oh no I'm a shill because I just love talking about my favorite vidya with my friends, guess no more of that for me!

It's incredibly obvious when discussion is organic versus when it's a shill trying to manufacture engagement, especially here. No, I'm not going to tell you what I look for because shills will use it to make their shilling less obvious.

I never said that I was fighting to stop Word of Mouth forever. I simply explained that it is unpaid marketing for someone else's commercial product and therefore I decided to remove myself from it.

Why do you want all of this to go away?

Probably because sour grapes. They don't get why we're able to still be happy even if the world is a shit show right now. So in their heads, why *should* we be happy, when we could be as miserable as them?

since it doesn't involve actually playing it to spot the flaws and make up an argument

Or worse...playing it and actually enjoying the game! Horrors!

Infested with advertisers trying to trick you into caring about bad games nobody actually cares about with fake metrics, while some metrics can be used to identify fake metrics.

India is just a scapegoat that's easy to use instead of making arguments or blaming anyone in actual charge; because petty racism is easier.

We have to admit this.

If they want someone to promote their product then they should hire people

Nigger what the fuck is a Marketeer? You stupid idiot.

The problem is that they aren't even miserable.
They post about how shit the world is while surrounded by anime figurines and 4K screens while waiting for their food delivery.

I would see why they want everyone to suffer if they were African child soldiers who post on Anon Babble during a lull and between rounds of Cocaine mixed with gunpowder.

I like watching objectively evil people fail.

Nigger what the fuck is a Marketeer?

Someone who actually gets paid for talking positively about a product.