[SAD NEWS] Doom MOGGED

It was the slo-mo projectiles that did it for me. Totally made me lose all interest from the first trailer.

Who would've guessed that Fantasy Life of all things would get more players than a nu-Doom game. I honestly didn't even think that could possibly happen. And it isn't even the weekend yet so the gap could get much bigger.

Steamies cant run new doom
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even roadcraft is beating it

I fail to see how this is Microsoft's idea, beyond that it was stupid to greenlight a melee and parry focused Doom game that has over 3 hours of cutscenes.

Anything Microsoft published has to be designed to appeal to the GamePass audience.

forced shartx

no shit it flopped

What does that even mean?

Didn't even have any controversy

lmao someone post the webm
you know the one

this feels like Doom Eternal vs. Animal Crossing all over again (I don't know who "won" that time though)

Eternal piggybacked AC.

Tried on goypass
fucking hate slomo on counter

EVERYONE IS PLAYING IT ON GAMEPASS

Good morning sirs.

My theory is that it quietly accumulated negative energy from multiple small issues. The Mick Gordon controversy was the biggest one but that was a while ago so it didn't resurfaced even if people are still upset about it. Then other shit piled on like forced ray tracing, the bad performance, the green blobs, the lame story, the price increase, the slower gameplay and the vehicle sections. It all comes across as a lesser product, which goes in line with most Microsoft games.

Gamepass

what even is the point of gamepass?
why does microsoft want to sell a new game for $5 instead of $80? How do they profit off of this?

Didn't even have any controversy surrounding it

I blame Microsoft.

we talking voodoo hexes or what

holy shit inafune saved level 5

THREE

MILLION

PLAYERS

I see parry I parry the game, its that simple
parry is a shit mechanic in every game its in

I assume they took their office subscription model & decided to apply it to everything without thinking it through at all, just got filtered through a bureaucracy of corporate retards.
Really brilliant move on their part to kill off cd key gamepass codes AND raise the price of their games further incentivizing doing one month subs, playing the new release & moving on.
That quote about bureaucracies being the enemy of their stated goal comes to mind.

Doom fans switched to VR already because it the best way to play all the previous dooms. Vr players have zero desire to play a flat-screen fps.

Censored ultra casualized slop is why I didn't want it.

It just didn't look good

People would rather install chink spyware than d00b dork ages

the game looks like a mockery of doom. its what numale redditers think manly coolness is.

does anyone have that pic/comic of anons looking at steamcharts?
Thanks

how many flops can id afford with microsoft money?

It didn't flop you fucking retard. Everything posted on this website are artistic works of fiction and only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

I don't get it either. Maybe it works because people have an easier time psychologically by spending $12/month instead of $70/game, even if they end up spending more in the long run

The Steam charts don't lie.

players

Are we seriously getting another AC: Shadows rerun so soon

players

sales?

its this why sell one 80 dollar game to 100s off thousands

when you can sell $20 a month. month after month for years on end to 10s of millions. the content doesn't need to sell itself, it just needs to keep subscribers satiated with endless new content. games are not art, at least not anymore.

players =/= sales

I care more about units sold, and not how many people played it.
OoOoO muh GamePass tho.

It doesn't count.

lmaooooooo

241.8 million ps5, xbox x/s, and pcs combined

3 million players

on xbox goypass

1.24% of eligible people played doom the dork ages

grim.

What the fuck

What the fuck

why would you pay $80 for aaa slop when you can play it and discard it in 2 hours on your netflix service for low quality games?

Holy fuck, this can't be real

Noooo but muh steamcharts

If this is real, then

Makes even more sense

I mean I knew gamepass was popular but holy moly. Mathematically speaking is this good? 3m is a lot of players but $15 a month from existing customers doesn't really compare to 70$(?) per sale of the game itself, and it can be assumed doom being on gamepass didn't pull in that many players on it's own either.

STAND

AND

FIGHT

sliders killed any vision

The universe smiting Marty for being a cringey redditor.

FIRE HUGO

HELLOOOOOOO MS MARKET RESEARCH TEAM

NU DOOM SUCKS

I think they fundamentally overestimate the strength of the brand. The original two games are an institution, but not really for the qualities conducive to ongoing IP. That is to say, when you picture "a doom fan" you probably imagine somebody obsessing over thirty year old game engine minutiae long before one who cares about the deep backstory of "the maykrs" and "the night sentinels" or whatever the fuck. Essentially though, the latter of those two makes up the connecting brand identity that remains after the drastic pivot in every other facet.

Eternal did better basically.

Pulling new players in isn't really the point, its keeping people subscripted. Keep stringing people along long enough and Microsoft will be extracting far more money out of each user than they would selling games to them.

no way lol

Don't let this retarded steam charts thread distract your from the fact that Fantasy Life is a good game and you (yes you!) should give it a try

Is good for Microsoft, at the end of the day those gamepass subscribers will pay 80% if not 100% of the game's cost and still won't own it

It's all about that subscription money and getting people used to not owning games

Yikes. Didn't even sell a million units. Veilguard won.

The Mick Gordon controversy, was such a nigger move, that even if the dark ages was a great game, i would still shit on it, without ever having played it.

All the trailers look like black sludge with green lights

based

she was asking for it.

Bethesda won, chuds

they just make these up don't they?

On the contrary I believe this is similar to what happened with Final Fantasy 13. Eternal left people with such a bad taste in their mouths that they didn't want to give the new game a chance. I can distinctly remember the glazed over reactions people had to fighting those shield counter demons in Eternal streams. It's something you're glad to beat and never bother with again because the devs flat out misunderstand how to design combat.

It's only good if there's microtransactions

34 million gamepass users. Less than 10% bothered to download.

Single player action games were becoming extinct because they are spoiled on Youtube sometimes even before the release date. If Microsoft is happy with those numbers, Game Pass gets credit for saving the genre.

AND THEY SPELL DISASTER FOR DOOM IN THE STEAM SALE

Game Pass gets credit for saving the genre.

By turning it into the same levek as netflix filler?

whoa i didnt know that was coming to steam. how did nintendo lose that IP?

How accessible to a "journo" or normalfag is Dark Ages compared to 2016 and Eternal anyway?

it has the accessibility menu where you can slide your health to infinity or enemy damage to nil and other silly shit like that

So it is that accessible, that's quite surprising since not enough of normalfags didn't bought it.

They took the premise of a pissed off guy killing demons and made it into a shitty fanfic written by a redditor, it was already an issue on Eternal, especially after the DLCs, but people kept focusing on the gameplay and the shitty platforming instead

Doomguy becomes mexican.

With the amount of games they have to pump out, is it viable to keep going this way? Microsoft literally had to give up their consoles and they seem to be axing studios and firing people. Add to that Marathon is going to be a complete flop from the look of things. Is it really viable to release $70 games that sell less than a million and rely mostly on $15 subs that need to constantly have new games? Seems like individual studios have no reason to try hard as profit sharing probably isn't good. Why would a studio release a masterpiece if they can shit out some mediocre slop and keep their jobs? Seems like a good reason why MS has been on a decline with their AAA games.

Shadows was shown to be quite successful in a thread yesterday, in a thread about some huge analytical company I forget the name of.

Marathon is going to be a complete flop from the look of things.

Marathon is Bungie is Sony now bud

The marketing sucked. They had to have known what people's expectations were for an Eternal follow-up, yet all of the gameplay they showed off before release just focused on the slow-mo parry system and running around open fields instead of maneuvering about tightly designed arenas (not to mention the mech and dragon segments, which at a glance just looked slower and not as fun as just killing demons the normal way). What's worse is that they intentionally showed off the difficulty sliders where you can change both projectile and overall game speed, but I don't think they ever properly demonstrated what the game plays like when you shift those sliders up, which you'd think would have been a no-brainer for a game with DOOM in the title (fun fact: the game actually is more fun with those sliders shifted up).

I can only guess they were banking on word-of-mouth to help carry the game like with 2016 and Eternal, but I think the decreased focus on flashy glory kills and the lacking soundtrack only ended up hurting them. What exactly are casuals going to share with each other in place of these things? Doomguy parrying a green fireball for the fiftieth time? The cutscene NPCs that nobody gives a shit about? Maybe that's what the dragon and mech segments were for, I guess.

How is it sad news when the franchise got ruined?

No more Mick Gordon

silly ridiculous "OMG BRUTAL DOOM IS SO BADASS SO LET'S COPY IT" gameplay elements

cartoony atmosphere that looks absolutely nothing like Doom and is just more AAA ue norm slop

This is coming from a longtime Doom fan. I just finished another playthrough of Alien Vendetta just today too.

players

just lay off the brutal doom angle gramps, it's way beyond that now

Brutal Doom is largely responsible for the franchise's downfall whether you agree or not. I don't mind the mod itself personally, but everyone and their dog wants to meme and milk it to such a profound degree now it's gotten ridiculous. It's not THAT good ffs.

yeah sure, but dark ages went off even further, it's no longer the main catalyst, just an old source

Doom PG13, happy investor edition™
Clip and share, until its a meme

does your girlfriend from canada go to another school too?

The amusing thing about this promo, was that Steiner went on to lose his match against Samoa Joe after this promo.

more engagement = more gooder

woman moment

Dark Souls was released in 2009 and parryslop is more than 16 years old. You can't just slap in basic ass parrying and call it a day. Even E33 had to shill profusely.

Anon Babble doesn't play games that aren't made to be engaging for woman-brains

why do you care about engagement numbers?

Yes. Stay mad and then kill yourself

slo-mo projectiles

You forgot to mention that most of them are homing. And that enemies with ranged attacks which aren't giant glowing neon homing slo-mo bullshit have perfect accuracy long-range hitscan which splashes tacky bullethole decals on your UI. Literally the worst of both worlds.

melee and parry focused Doom game

It could have worked. Instead, they didn't even pretend to commit to the medieval aesthetic or melee combat, they just built the game around a genuinely retarded "push button when see green" mechanic.

why do you care about engagement numbers?

i don't, these studios do. "players" means "we sold no copies and are

doomed

i don't, these studios do

so, the people spamming about engagement numbers don't care about the engagement numbers?

How do they profit off of this?

When they sell a game for $5 instead of $80 they treat it as +5 instead of -75. That'll work until they run out of money.

Flopped

Sold two million in 7 days

kek Anon Babble being retarded as usual

some dude spending nothing to play my shitty game for 5 minutes totally saved it

Sure.

Players

Every time they don't have sales but someone demoed their game on game pass they will include it into their bullshit numbers.

I like it when bad games do badly.

cucks seething in the replies

Based

what do you think you're doing?

The game makes sure to pause enemy projectiles so you don't get overwhelmed.

when they sell a 80 dollar game on steam they only keep 40-50 dollars. when they get a gamepass subscription they get to keep 10 dollars out of it.

doom eternal had a peak of 80k but they only got to keep 30-40 usd out of the steam sale price. now they get to keep either 40-50 usd or 10 usd.

TDA has already made comfortably more money than Eternal in its launch week. this is why they called it bigger launch than eternal.

"""sold""" two million

ah yes
"gamepass players"

we have dismissed these claims

It sold 800k across all platforms, johnny.

Made more money than that french garbage

Cool I guess

cares about engagement numbers

so you admit you are woman-brained
can you answer the question, why do you care about engagement numbers?

see

you lived to see a Doom game made for game journalists

I miss her bros...

This isn't gonna unflop Shadows or Dark Ages, sorry bud.

I blame nu-id and whoever decided that shaking up the gameplay with random gimmicks every game was a good idea

TDA isn't harder or easier compared to Eternal, and no amount of posting a disingenuous clip from a tutorial level is going to change that.

shills, retards, and trolls have never been more indistinguishable

Doom DA made Microsoft more money than Eternal did for Bethesda

Oblivion Remaster made more money in one month than the original did in its lifetime

Youtubers are raging as they wanted them to fail

Ah I get it now.

passive aggressive behavior when simply asked to answer why he cares about engagement numbers

woman moment

Okay maam

players

single player runescape

vs

blue the game but its red

huh i wonder.

see

yes

shills for that shit french game are going into overdrive

Despite all the shilling the game's sales only increased by 250k copies

Oblivion Remaster heading to 8 milly and surpassing Shadows, soon to Mon Hun garbage next

Laughing my ass off

you do understand that 40 > 10, right?

see

Level 5 games are fun and comfy

Game in the OP isn't doing so well on consoles so far the sales are about 50k on steam, so its gonna flop.

do you understand 3 million 10 > 80k 40, right?

Shadows didn't flop, and I doubt Dark Ages did either.

and you understand that only NEW subscriptions count towards a newly released game, right?
and that if the subscription cancels right after it completes the game, it made less than if it was a sale, right?

Lmao this shit did worse than veilguard how is that possible? Trannies won its over.

shit doesn't even look like Doom.

and you understand that only NEW subscriptions count towards a newly released game, right?

and you understand gamepass analytics are accounting that, right?

and that if the subscription cancels right after it completes the game, it made less than if it was a sale, right?

and you understand the fact that TDA already made more money than eternal's launch, right

women consume such low quality slop, just slap farming onto anything and they'll buy it

retards defending this pile of horseshit have no right to shit on Doom 3. lol

Wooow I can't believe women are into things they're naturally predisposed to like homesteading (farming games like this or Stardew) or socially based family management games (The Sims)

Nobody is gonna pay 90 fucking euros for a game.
Only ones that can get away with it are GTA and maybe two nintendo games.

the only ones defending it are shills
it's burning to the ground as we type

and you understand gamepass analytics are accounting that, right

but they aren't? they literally just count the players, not the new subscriptions

It's the best Doom ever.

are these players in the room with us right now?

but they aren't? they literally just count the players, not the new subscriptions

source?

and what about people who don't cancel their subscription because of an upcoming game?

TDA is the 2nd best Doom game after Eternal. Doom 3 is some xbox360 horror game.

source?

they said it's the biggest doom launch which means either they are new subscriptions or they are lying at which point why didn't they just make up some cool number like 10 million?

now some random ass analytics site that guesstimates is gonna be posted in every thread for every new game going forward

I don't see why mods don't nuke this shit on site. Just invites the worst kind of posting

or they are lying

ASS shadows didn't thaught you anything?

why not 10 million

because it's more of a twist of the truth than a lie, many people that already were subscribed probably opened the game

Does it mean Fantasy Life has more than 3 million players???

I don't think I heard of it until several days after it came out.
Might just have been marketing.
People buy slop all the time.

I kneel Fantasy LifeChads

players written in the smallest font possible below the gigantic 3 MILLION

Pathetic pajeetsoft has killed yet another studio just give it a month and we'll be hearing about layoffs

Just came here to say that the dragon segments are boring as fuck, they should have been on rails shooter segments, like starfox or something, at lest these levels could have ended quick that way

If the game was 50 Euros instead of 80 the game would have 200k concurrent on Steam.

I will order a physical copy from Japan or something

bro why the fuck does fantasy life need anticheat?

It's not doom, it's not quake, it's not nu-doom. It's slowed down parry slop for console players.
The aesthetics are lame, the music is lame, the guns are lame.