How the fuck is it legal for a company to fire union workers to hire non union workers...

No one is going to downgrade to UK after USA. They jus go to other USA peeps.

union loses your job for you

lol

ScabKINGS dabbing on talentless hacks. This is good. Voice actors will be humbled.

VAs refuse to work

fire them and hire new VAs

What exactly is wrong with this?

Well mainly it's to do with ownership. Owning the company gives you some rights to decide who you employ.

somebody PLEASE think of the jewish grifters!

nah kys, sag is basically a mafia that wants a monopoly while collecting bullshit “fees” from all their members

Chinese company vs American VA

I want them both to be destroyed

Bitch just be glad you don't live in the nineteenth century.

imagine being a "voice actor"
thousands of self taught people are looking at your position like vultures circling around a prey in a desert
and then you are shocked you got replaced when you stopped clocking in

It's not a matter of "capitalism", and in this case you're wrong about the human rights part too. The right to human portrait and voice was signed into Chinese law last year, which made it illegal to AI clone voices for any reason, including VA work, so in this occasion they get more protection than Americans or Europeans. This is why SAG-AFTRA dishonestly misrepresented this standoff in the media,saying it's about "protection from AI" when Mihoyo already won't use AI voices since they're under Shanghai law.

The problem with SAG-AFTRA is that they demand from Mihoyo to ONLY hire SAG-AFTRA members, and force them to fire every single non-union VA, which would mean every non-American, and Mihoyo told them to fuck off.

Citing strike as the reason

Literally no strike is going on

What the fuck is wrong with american VAs man holy fuck.

I'm a huge advocate for labor movements, but SAG-AFTRA is objectively a dogshit union.

Bitch just be glad we’re not adding another 6 million to the count (yet)

It's not even a strike, it's "VAs" recording on their Yeti Blue on a San Francisco closet apartment morally grandstanding on twitter

hey come to work or you're fired

lolno pay me reparashuns and do as my overlords tell you to do

come to work, last warning

suck my diiiiick

okay you've been replaced

WHAT THE FUCK HOW CAN YOU DO THIS IMMA SET THE UNION ON YOU FOR UUUUUH SOMETHING I DUNNO BUT FUCK YOU I AM THAT CHARACTER YOU CAN'T DO THIS

new VA

hey thanks for hiring me, I'll do my best!

does their best

gets paid

It's that simple.

I thought that didn't happen?

i wish it had.

Ikr.

fpbp

I’m glad we agree that the numbers need to be pumped up from 0 to 6 million

They have contracts with each other, they can't just fire whoever they don't like

Yes, yes they can. See if your contract say's you'll work, and you don't, you're fired. If your contract is coming up for renewal, and you don't like the contrat that is to be renewed, you don't get to sit there and still keep your job. You will be replaced. You go bye bye and someone else takes the job. Because they're willing to work, and you aren't. Its a very basic concept and union fags think they can mafia stiff arm other people into doing what they want. But at the end of the day the employer calls the shots. VAs aren't a rare commodity. There are literally millions of people that can do the job. Companies will exclude you, they don't have to hire you just because you want them to. They don't have to keep you either, especially when the contract is up

Now fill out that Uber Eats application

PAY VOICE ACTORS WHAT THEY'RE FUCKING WORTH!

"at will work" is an abomination that gives employers unlimited power to fuck with employees off the record and should be fought everywhere.
Agreed with the rest.

Isn't voice acting super easy and very low effort?
Why do they need a union?

Just use AI

technically SAG-AFTRA shouldn't allow their union VAs to even work on it.

Their racket would collapse pretty quick if their members were being denied roles. They rely on supremacy and a lack of alternatives to extort membership fees

The union monopolizes the VA market in burger land.

If it's super easy, why don't companies hire tons of different VA's huh? Yeah I thought s--

looks at SAG's union rules

Oh wait.

unions don't give a shit about human rights anymore, if they ever did

USA voice actors

An upgrade over UK ones

Lol, lmao even. Britbong voice actors are usually far superior to US ones, and I say that as a filthy frenchman.

I think Jennifer English is a pretty good voice actress.

NOO THE LEECHES THE SUBHUMAN LEECHES THE DOGSHIT THE FILTH OF THE WORLD THE SUBHUMAN ANIMALS YOU CANT FIRE THE FUCKING DISGUSTING SUBHUMANS NOOOOOO

Kill yourself

The union monopolizes the VA market in burger land

Why do people even support unions? Especially this one

That's a nice fairy tale for a society that doesn't produce complete abominations who will suck all value from your company rather than adding to it should you hire them. You can raise a useless and retarded generation with an unreasonably high vision of their own worth despite having accomplished nothing or you can have strong labor rights but if you want jobs to exist you can't have both.

Unions support each other. If enough people in a given field get together and form a union they can collectively deny their labor to their employers until they get what they want. How can your business function if it has no workers? That's the power of a union, denial of labor until they're satisfied. SAG AFTRA is powerful because a lot of well known actors often do voicework for cartoons, 3D animated stuff, voiceovers for documentaries. That qualifies them as voice actors as well. So now you've got not only little nobodies who have done a few lines for a gacha game, but also big time stars. All backing each other

Their mistake though is thinking a Chinese company gives a fuck

Because employers don't respect or trust their workers anymore, regardless if these voice actors are in the wrong or not here. Simple as.

Why do people even support unions

because generally people don't want to get fucked over after spending years studying and then working with physical labor like construction/plumbing/etc and when your prime youth body is over the company spits you out and you have to look at some other career at 30-40
also you have to collectively push for better wages with the constant fun inflation

Especially this one

idk, I guess a lot of wannabes thinks they will make it as a va and if they make it they don't want to get fucked

Yes and no. The basic action of speaking into a microphone is zero effort but making it sound good and convincing is a genuine skill that can take a surprising amount of effort.

UK voice actors are usually trained in the theatre and do radio plays frequently. American voice actors are found rooting through the bins.

Just use AI for the English voices and hire actual people for the Chinese, Japanese and Korean voices

Its what's going to happen anyway. Years from now they'll hire people to do a baseline reading. A couple pages of text. They will then use AI to replicate that persons voice to make them say whatever they want. They will then give the original person a specific amount of money per spoken lines as the game moves forwards. You basically sell your voice to a company for their use. They will also buy peoples likenesses. A whole new frontier of whoring ones self out. Its going to happen. VAs are simply scared they wont be able to charge what they used to for it. And they wont

That and Chinese law says a Chinese company can only sign agreements with Chinese unions.
So the question becomes do you want to fuck with some whiny activist burgers or the Chinese legal system?
No one with more than 2 brain cells is choosing to fuck with the latter.

Voice Acting in the Anglosphere is the lowest caste of acting. It's what you do once you've failed at every other possible acting job. Yes, even lower than being a hand model.

Beggars can't be choosers and Sag-Aftra is a joke of an institution. Most people don't even know there's a strike even though it's been going for over a year.

You don't work, you get replaced. They should be happy to have a job opening at all, nobody plays gachas in English. Not even normies.

She did great as Shadowheart in BG3, really gave the character a depth that a lot of other performances miss. Not even just the angsty parts—her delivery in the quieter, more introspective moments hit hard. Still, I wouldn’t put her in the GOAT tier yet, but she’s definitely in the "keep an eye on" category if she gets more diverse roles.

if they were non union they could have worked instead of being recast.

Chinese company and American actors

Neither of these countries have any workers laws or respects unions so it's not strange that they simply get replaced, like the character and game they're very replaceable for hoyoverse

downgrade to UK

Look at this retard, are you deaf?
UK voice actors consistently mog the fuck out of American VAs who all sound like they were dragged straight off the shopping channel and are still trying to sell you a blender while they shout out the names of shonen anime attacks in the most embarrassing anime dub you have ever been subjected to

BASED. FUCK ENGLISH VA.

English VAs don't deserve human rights.