Why are there so few games where you can romance the villain? Even most WRPGs don't let you do this shit. Also why is Stella Glow, an RPG from 2015 still the gold standard?
Why are there so few games where you can romance the villain? Even most WRPGs don't let you do this shit...
Because they're the antagonist of the narrative, what would romancing them even look like in most games when their goals are diametrically opposed to yours. Even in your example of Stella Glow, the villain that you can romance is only a villain for the first half the game and becomes your ally in the second half against the true villain of the game.
Imagine how weird it would be if you were able to romance the Lantern King in Kingmaker or Sarevok in BG1, what would that even look like?
Alternate endings/timelines.
Your reasoning only makes sense if you're playing a character that is established within universe to have their own personality, aspirations and motivations. But most WRPGs don't do that; they instead have a player self-insert which you can mold into whatever you desire. In a situation like this, maybe I don't want to buy into the propaganda that my neighbors feed me about my supposed "destiny". Maybe the villainess has a good argument for her motivation. Maybe it could all be a result of poor communication or expression. Maybe this world is genuinely not worth saving and it'd be more fun to conquer it or watch it burn. Or maybe the villainess is just really fucking hot and I want to spend every night filling every orifice of hers with my cum.
RPGs get their roots in tabletops, where you make every decision for your character, and most of your decisions affect the story and the world around you. A lot of that is lost in the transition to video games due to technical limitations. With all that said, if I want to romance and/or put my penis into a smoking hot villainess, I should have every right to make that decision.
Also, a villain is not the same as an antagonist.
Writers can't pull off elder god tier kino like that
Protags are usually the villains. So you def can.
This reasoning only makes sense if you ignore that your character does actually have a motivation, said motivation typically being the impetus of the plot of the game like in WOTR your character is drawn to the worldwound or in Wasteland 3 the rangers are there to get critical supplies back to your people in arizonna, and that other characters do in fact have their own personalities and interests, pretty much all WRPGs Skyrim is a fucking joke of a game do this especially ones with romance which is why typically only a handful of potential party members are romanceable regardless of what you the player wants and why certain games don't just allow you to go "lol lmao" and join the villain.
Also, a villain is not the same as an antagonist.
Obviously, but the villain of a story is also generally its antagonist the only time this changes is when you the player can become the main villain of the story like in Jedi Academy for instance
This is a goonerbait thread but honestly I almost think a trait that makes a great RPG different from a good RPG is that there IS no villain, just different factions who view each other as villains. A lot of woke writers ass clench at the idea of presenting people they disagree with as anything other than simplistic caricatures so they generally suck at making these kinds of realistic RPGs
What movies/tv shows/books have successfully done this that isn't some nerd wish fulfillment garbage anime?
Not saying it can't be done properly but ideally you want your villains to be fully fleshed out characters that are driven by their own goals and motivation and hold stronger convictions than "that guy/girl is really hot i love them"
Is this lack of conviction or willing to abandon morals for love is why characters that betray the protagonists or join the villains because they were in love with the antagonist are usually hated. If woman we call them dumb whores, if men we call them pathetic simps.
It was funny in Macross when the humans were like "why don't you try not being incredibly violent and living only for war?" and the aliens were like "shit I never thought of that you may have a good idea there".
Even outside of anime, it is rare for a woman to be the primary villain precisely because evil women in media arent expected to hold strong convictions. If the villain has a young adult offspring who serves as his second command, and that lieutenant is female, they are basically expected to defect to the good side. It doesnt matter if its conan fantasy or james bond.
what would romancing them even look like
You KO & capture one of the big bad's Lords who happens to be a cool guy or hot lady, and they have personal reasons to join you for one reason or another. They're still kinda an asshole.
Amazon/berserker is just a slut for whomever is the strongest, you kicking their ass makes them think you can take the big bad so now they're Team You.
You have reason to join forces right away to fight off something else, and realizing something bigger is at stake, they defect from their boss and stick with you for the time being.
Evil witch uses magic to enslave people, you to reflect it back at her, now she won't (can't) stop following you. Hijinks ensue, you have to keep tugging her leash to keep her in check.
The second act has you fight the big bad but results in the two of you getting stranded somewhere in the chaos, needing to rely on the other which somehow leads to seeing eye-to-eye on a few things, but the two of you still go back to being enemies at the end (and building a good enough relationship before the end of the game can unlock an alternative that doesn't result in killing them).
You and the villain are both high ranking officials, but there is a neutral territory where the two of you meet in person regularly. Your disagreements on the conflict and duty to your own lands get separated from the rapport and eventual behind-closed-doors romance the two develop.
Grandia 2, sort of. Villainous lady is sealed away inside the goodie two shoes, so you get the bad girl on the team and she has time to gradually lighten up. Not the big bad, but enough of a "villain."
hundred line has a route that does this
hacks don't apply the adage the villains are the hero of their own story.
Man, I need to play alpha centuries again.
please tell me the dark hair is a boy
There's literally no porn genre for that but i really love it when women do mental warfare with their hotness as a weapon.
Both when it happens irl and in fiction. I guess that's what a femme fatale. I really enjoy knowing that i'm being played and then continue to give into it just bc how pretty of a lady is doing it to me.
Based. I've seen that route's name and was thinking if it really is what I think it is
Evil women(slightly haggy) need to be corrected into being loving mothers who cry when their baby does literally anything
Play Black Souls
sex with dark elf fugitives
Every game needs a dark elf villainess or two.
I loved that romance in Macross. Just the idea that the aliens would send their best soldier to infiltrate the humans and she falls in love with one guy and then the humans fucking broadcast their wedding to the aliens.
It's so funny it almost feels like a joke that'd be in comedy but it's pretty much played mostly straight.
"I can fix them"
I like mommydom but infant regression shit is a bit much for me
Wom*n talks to me
Immediate mental alarm bells go off and try to figure out what she's really asking
You will NOT take my time or money whore. You are lucky there are whiteknights around you, otherwise I will beat you to death
You know what will happen to them right?
what is every romance novel aimed at women
Bitch just give me evil women to fix or try to fix. How hard is that you retarded onions cuckold writer?
I'm very aware
they would be better if the personalities were swapped desu
Subhuman brown retards don't care about outdated concepts like characterization and narrative themes
It's all about their fulfilling their worthless trannoid self-insert fantasies
A true act of villany would be smugly staring at you, rubbing her pregnant belly as you get home while a smaller version of her tackles your legs demanding uppies, knowing full well it'll take only one more pregnancy after until you can no longer hold them all at the same time, dooming you to a fate of being swarmed, unable to defend yourself.
A hero bested by his own folly.
does anyone have that animation of the shota fucking a dark elf whore
Defeated by his own flesh and blood
Imagine the smug
Not sure if it's the one you're thinking of, but look up Anna Anon.
awww yeah it is, you're great anon this cum goes out to you
Maybe the villainess has a good argument for her motivation.
Not a villain
Maybe it could all be a result of poor communication or expression.
Not a villain
aybe this world is genuinely not worth saving and it'd be more fun to conquer it or watch it burn.
nobody is a villain
You just want to fuck women with dark hair and angry expressions
You can do that without calling them a "villain"
Why are there so few games where you can romance the villain?
The japanese are trying to fix that unfortunate fact
Best ending.
why are they blue wtf
did anyone ever told you
and thus I am reminded that third worders are breeding like rats and dozens of them are getting on the internet for the first time every minute and my day is ruined.
This planet is doomed.
Things are looking grim.
where you can romance
Just a reminder that this is tranny mentality. (You) aren't a videogame character, (You) pretending to be one is an actual step to trannyism. Denying your own reality and seeking escapism in fantasy.
Reminder, all women are evil.
You should get off the internet and start knocking up some evil women then.
broken horn
yes
oh no?
made for BWC
Villainous dark elves can be instantly defeated by biting their wiggly ears
are these supposed to be blue goblins or dark elves? If the latter than the proportions are way off. What a shitty artist.
blue goblins
Does this look like Gringotts to you, nigger?
I too am a cat.
Yes
Nina is more incompetent than malicious
Stella Glow
Luminous Arc 2, dude. Same setup as in Valkyria Chronicles 3, two chicks to pick from.
Kingmaker
I mean you CAN romance Nyrissa there and she's the villain for a good 90% of the game. Fighting the Lantern King is totally optional unless you are romancing her, in fact.
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R U I N E D
Imagine how weird it would be if you were able to romance the Lantern King in Kingmaker
Weird of you to focus on him and not Nyrissa whose romance is indeed weird because she's a cunt that's constantly trying to kill you who you only see a few times through what, four years? I don't know how long the KM campaign takes
I hate these Russian holes and their pet cuckolds so very, very much.
Source?
Fag
do elves really have sensitive ears?
I mentioned Lantern King because he ends being the one truly behind everything, romancing Nyrissa reveals that she was only as much of a victim of the curse as everyone else despite her willfully being a shitheel.
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Just create a scenario where you can end up on the same side or allies of convenience, see Marazhai in Rogue Trader.
Absolutely awful example
Why?
SOURCE
Play Library of Ruina
Because you don't need Marazhai at all
Because he has been a pain in the ass that has killed a shitton of your people
Because he tries to kill you and got you and your entire party horrifically tortured and stuck in the worst place in the galaxy
And because you can just kill him once you're done using him
ESPECIALLY since this is a 40k game where shooting people because they're inconvenient to you is the basic modus operandi
what would romancing them even look like in most games when their goals are diametrically opposed to yours
what if the villain is so hot that I want to give up on my goals and simp for them, and help them with their evil plans? I want a game where I can do that, full fleshed out and realized.
GIMME THE SAUCE!!!
If Oblivion actually looked like this I'd like it
xitter only artist
FUCK
afraid so
So? It's an optional romance for people who are into that.
Didn't read but grandia is based
Why is she vomiting in her hand? Is she sick?
I thought she was just crying a lot but it's semen
She's crying semen instead of tears?
Elves are weird man
Their ears are erogenous zones, they cry semen, their mouths are pussies... Elves are naturally lewd creatures.
Yes
Why would you want to break those beautiful horns?
As a sign of dominance.
Hot Threesome with Male and Female Near-Identical Twins!
nigger behavior
seems a bit harsh...
go back to your dommy mommy threads, lil bro.
nigger behaviour
if you're not constantly abusing your woman you're a little bitch
nigger mentality
Even in your example of Stella Glow, the villain that you can romance is only a villain for the first half the game and becomes your ally in the second half against the true villain of the game.
95% of people preaching about SG on Anon Babble never actually played it and only know about it because of the pregnancy copypasta and villainess threads.