It fills you even now, doesn't it? The subscription. To idle in Limsa, to feel the loot roll 97. Good...

It fills you even now, doesn't it? The subscription. To idle in Limsa, to feel the loot roll 97. Good, good! This is the XIV thread I have longed to face!

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Why does dungeon trash have to be strong as it is if it drops nothing of value?

Dead tranny game

How it the dungeon going to be 20 minutes long if there are no ads?

Did people actually liked that edgelord? Fucking hated him and was so annoyed how they kept bringing him back

They could make trash mobs more fun somehow, yeah in ARR having a couple ranged enemies and timed switches, poison pits was a bit annoying but it made positioning a bit more interesting instead of just mindlessly doing your rotation and evading a red circle, and I know they do this from time to time but they could get way more creative with them.

Only normie women and trannies don't like Zenos. Men understand him, fujos want the WoL to fuck him in the ass.

I'm not resubbing until a new meteor destroys Tural

Turn-based is for men that Google other men.

Real men play MMO combat, with rotations and active movement.

The general is the mentally ill one, I'm just dumping my folder every thread for the 497th time

i wish i could play 3.0 again

I don't, what a horrible horrible experience that was on a PS3

shouldnt have played on a ps3 then

Only normie women and trannies don't like Zenos

other way around

If Zenos really loved me he'd put a baby in me.

k i n o

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It's kind of amazing how every single one of these videos is complete shit.
Has there ever been a competent video essay analyzing XIV?

honestly no i can't think of any

It's kind of amazing how every single onf ot these videos is brilliant.
There has been some amazing, competent video essayists for FFXIV. It's a shame the devs don't heed their advice or the game wouldn't be on it's death-roes.

It's definitely a weakness of the game, how's WoW in this regard?

It's literally to time gate you. It's a time gating metric to make sure dungeons last exactly 15-20 minutes.

Exposition 33

Metabore: Refantazio

XVI is awful and it's combat still beats all of them. Event XV.

Whore

The only way 14 ever recovers is for Kate to get publicly fired, Sena gets recast and all the lines rerecorded. Which is never going to happen

Wow mobs can drop trash items/green worth of trade/gold occasionally, sometimes BoP/BoE items.

Zepla's ones are good, but she's a boomer so gets a pass.

Most players of an Online game are poor at dissecting and analysing it because they don't/haven't played many other games. That's why they make weird, minute suggestions like, "One skill on Scholar will fix this game."

Even Journos are shitting on Yoshida. He's lost the aura of being a 'Superstar' dev.

Firing and replacing those two men won't change the fact that the original writing still revolves around Wuk Lamat's retardation, to the detriment of everyone else in the cast

FF has barely ever had turn based combat.

But the-

That's ATB.

this video is 50% the girl bouncing her avatar's tits while making weird lewd jokes that all fall flat.
Absolutely insufferable.
Doesn't help that it's 30 minutes of saying absolutely nothing.
"This is a problem, I'm not gonna tell you why or go into specifics about it because that'd require me to actually interrogate my stance and why I hold the opinions that I do, but trust me, it's a problem"
There, that's like 90% of XIV critique on youtube.

I still remember that one thread from a couple of weeks ago where it turned out nearly all the FFXIV hate shitposting in the thread was down to one extremely buttbothered autist and that when he was banned and his posts were deleted it was like half of the thread.
Anyway, sex with miqote girls as they're pumped to to extreme explosion with whipped cream

looks like he's in the process of getting killed again

I wonder how little a sub is actually worth right now.
I wouldn't blow 5 bucks on it personally.

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you figured out that the only reason he cares is he saw tits that say they hate FFXIV, what will you do with this information

The best dungeon the game ever made, was that Halloween event in the manor.

It was slightly randomized, and incentivised players moving around together to explore stuff.

Dungeons needs gimmicks and need to be on the same tier as trails. You need the same design ethos as trails for dungeons.

Realm Reborn ironically was on the right path towards that, even in the Coil designs before the bosses.

Saying atb isn't turnbased is the type of semantics that makes me immediately discard anything you say.

It would be funny if it were the same anon! That can't be a healthy attitude to maintain.
I would really like to see a return to the more exploratory/maze like early dungeons, though given how they've made content to be cleared with bots that seems unlikely. The new totorak made me sad.

consider however that the content being designed to be clearable with bots actually makes them better for teaching the game to new players, because trusts are programmed to prioritize their own survival and will lower or raise their own damage in response to the player's to force a certain dungeon clear-time range, but also the dungeons that all got changed for bot clearability also all kinda sucked and most of them didn't really lose anything interesting or worthwhile in their changes

It's not turn-based, because that was the essence of Final Fantasy's development, in that it was always trying to one up and redefine itself.

It was a natural evolution of the series, and carried into VII's remake, Dirge of Cerberus, XIII's sequels, XV, XII.

It's turn-based.

consider however that the content being designed to be clearable with bots actually makes them better for teaching the game to new players

I actually agree with this. When you see the Scion party in the trail fights moving around competently AND in character, as well as voicing out how to dodge mechanics, it's well done.

ACTIVE time battle

It's turn based

FF1 is turn-based.

Correct, while anything with an ATB gauge is turn-cringe.

Do you also consider XIV's GCD combat system turn-based just because there's a little timer that dictates when you're allowed to act?

It WAS turn-based because when you'd auto attack you'd TURN around.

Can weave any number of oGCD actions between GCD actions

Cannot weave any actions in ATB

Pedantry is the last refuge of somebody with no argument. ATB is functionally the same as turn-based, it's merely a different presentation.

It is turnbased, atb is a form of turnbased combat you spenk.

Ok, so let's pretend we live in a world where XIV has no oGCDs and everything else is the same.
Would you consider it a turn-based game then?

not even as late as all that, even as early as ARR you're forced to respect mechanics more than you would with players because

tank bots won't pull more than a mob pack at a time on their own, and will struggle enormously with two packs if you force them to pull that, by the time they can handle two packs you're in later stormblood/shadowbringers stuff where decent tanking is borderline mandatory

bots don't give a shit about DPS, they'll halt everything to do mechanics or avoid attacks

healer bots or red mage bots can't raise you, if you die you're forced back to the start of the dungeon

bots are effectively at minimum item level

So then every variation of it is or isn't, how do you define the differences between XIII and XII's combat?

You won't convince them, they've convinced themselves over the years that ATB is a unique form of combat completely separate from Turnbased games. Years and years of indoctrination and arguing a faulty point because to admit now that the atb FF games are turnbased would be to admit they were wrong.

So if FF comes back to the "glory days", do you want an Atlus turn-based system or a PS1 ATB FF system

So then...

So nothing, I said what I said.

Why would I come back when even the ERP scene is dead in this game.

ATB is a unique form of combat completely separate from Turnbased games

They're very active games though, the combat doesn't have as much forethought or pre-planning.
I don't know if people remember playing bosses from VII in 1998, and just how active and fast you had to be in inputs, managing Downs and Hi-Potions quickly.

In essence, sure, it's still "turn-based" because the aesthetics are so similar, but just that one element change makes it very different.

Is it?

do you want an Atlus turn-based system or a PS1 ATB FF system

Neither, I want NES FF combat because I don't play Fatlus dogshit.

*notices ur materia grades*
*realises you bringed in grade IV's to a levl 90 dunjin (like bdsm dungen)* ////

so you chose the combat system most similar to fatlus dogshit?

No, fatlus dogshit chose the combat system most similar to FF.

Neither, I want NES FF

Then you don't understand the series and should go play IX.

Naw I haven't been subbed since the first month of Shadowbringers.

Then you don't understand the series

t. will literally never stop sucking off FFVII

I understand perfectly well. Final Fantasy is at its best with job systems and four niggas in a row.

I should have been more specific. What I meant to say was quality ERP scene.
It does have the quantity, but it's just braindead gooners who can't type a coherent sentence to save their lives.

Honestly ATB is just a retarded system.
There's functionally no difference between it and just speed stat variances in other RPGs, but it's really stupid cause for each half second you take to pick a command you're wasting time that could be spent filling up the bar for your next turn.

half the games are 3 niggas in a row

half the games are action games

Please let this game fucking die before there's another Magic the Gathering crossover. I can't fucking take another ruined set.

I said what I fucking said, and I meant it.

I realised yesterday that XIV can't be replaced.

There's no game to fill the void if you leave it.
Genshin, Warframe, Wuthering Waves, Grand Order, Warcraft, Maple, Rune, Destiny, ESO, New World.

None of them have the intelligence that XIV has.

Shutup, you're 100% some faggot that plasters E33 threads across the board to "stick it to Enix" for 13 hours per day.

I haven't even fucking played it and all of the shilling for it makes me want to play it even less. Is there any other angle you'd like to try?

genuinely what do you mean by intelligence
and why are gacha games included in that list

I've been marathoning the rest of the series.

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Half the games are action games

No they're not, only FF15 and FF16 are action games.
FF14 is an MMO with GCD tab targeting combat
FF13 is still turnbased as are all the previous games so only 2 out of 16 mainline FF games are true action games which ff15 is a pretty bad action game, it's too floaty and FF16 has tighter controls but the flaws with that game are so numerous it's helped push the FF brand into further irrelevance than the money spent on it merited.

and why are gacha games included in that list

I for one appreciate it, because it means I don't have to waste any mental energy processing whatever he posted because it's literally worthless.

having enemies to fight is a way to timegate you

Are the bosses also a way to timegate you? What about the time spent walking between packs? Fucking square making me play the game man, I should just be able to press a button and get my exp/tomes/loot on demand

genuinely what do you mean by intelligence

Shit like this
youtu.be/nlqCq4ktDZ0?t=684

dude don't you GET it? he's like YOU...the PLAYER...only caring about DOPAMINE and the next RAID...pretty TWISTED and META isn't it?

The only good moment this character ever had was calling Endsinger stupid right to her face.

Retards and women simply don't understand what makes Zenos good.

Then what's XII and XI?

"he just like me fr" is a braindead player's idea of savage raiders and equating them to zenos in fairness

FF11 and FF12 use RTB, real time battle system which is a hybrid of using turnbased abilities into real time combat. They are not action based.

well, you see, they actually did drop things, but we patched it out because we... it's due to the fact that... uh...whenever it would... erm... we just did ok?

The fact FF13 is still called turnbased just goes to show you how silly it is to call these ATB games turnbased in the first place. What makes these kind of games distinct is how they handle *space* not *time*. FF13 is such an extreme example.
These are games where you don't move (or movement doesn't matter, like in 12) and you select attacks using a menu instead of pushing a button to make a character move with an attack. Their combat systems are (mostly) map-less tactical battles, which rarely goes beyond "rows" in terms of positioning.
Obviously the action games and MMOs are different, though 11 is still effectively menu based and less movement driven than 14.

You are getting 50 Mech Ops as ground support finished before the content dies, right? Because if there's no pilots, you can't clear the FATE.

The fact FF13 is still called turnbased just goes to show you how silly it is to call these ATB games turnbased in the first place

No, the silly part was acting like ATB was different.

how is the new field op looking? worth resubscribing for or should i wait until the new deep dungeon?

I honestly thought it couldn't get worse than zenos, but I'm glad I don't have any desire to resubscribe after wuk.

worth resubbing for if you liked eureka or bozja at all

There's really no point in arguing any of it. It's all just semantics.

Uhh actually XII is a real-time auto battle-

actually VIII is a menu-based button masher that-

V is the true heart of the system because-

What's the point. Some autist is always going to show up and start yelling.

unc thinks people still post in these threads regularly

No, the silly part was acting like ATB was different.

This anon gets it.
How can anyone look at this and try to argue it's not Turnbased but Action combat?
youtube.com/watch?v=XavSDwqAoiw

well fuck, i loved eureka when i went through it last year.

they're calling it eureka 3, folks, there's never been a eureka like this. maybe never will be again

well to be honest
I hated him up until the start of EW
then warmed up to him when he stole the WoL's body and he basically mocked the player for thinking he has some sad backstory
and when he crashed the final battle I thought that he was such a strange but lovable character
and when he asked that meta question, I just loved him, like finally that "my enemy, my friend" line finally hit and I unironically felt bone-chilling euphoria with how apt his character is written into the EW story.

It just annoys me when people use the phrase turn based when they clearly mean "people stand still" or "there's no map in battle". It's like being wrong by an entire dimension.

MMOs either need a drastic change or this stagnation is gonna eventually be the dead of it all

Filtered I'm afraid

haven't played since EW patches. I like bozja so I kinda wanna come back for occult crescent but I don't want to play DT

when they clearly mean "people stand still"

Ironically, it's Final Fantasy that is to blame for this with how big VII got.
I fucking bet if you look back on forums in 1999, people are saying the exact same shit, how "VII isn't turn-based" while they propped up Ultimata and DQ VI.

Chrono odyssey is releasing soon and if they nail the monetisation it could be promising. My only fear is that it's a Korean MMO and not a single Korean MMO has had good combat and a monetisation system that was fair, the ones with good combat had awful cash grab systems and the ones with fair pricing had shit combat.
People are really itching for the next big fresh MMO that does something different with the genre.
FFXIV is old and showing it's age hard, why do I say that? Because it's being outclassed by the mobile version of itself. The fucking mobile version is better in every way than the PC desktop version. That is an absolute inversion of what mobile ports should be but for FFXIV they managed to break the mould.

you're bouncing and moaning on a mobile game that's china-only and isn't released yet

The problem with all the Korean and Chinese games is that they can't write good story.

The japanese are the only asians that can write well, any other country and it comes across like it was written by an AI.

It's neither action (as in an action game) nor is it turn-based. It's ATB pushed to the point of feeling like an action game with reaction elements, like switching to defense. On the harder battles, winning (or winning fast enough to get special rewards) can mean spamming stances and shit like a mad man, all the while the enemy is hitting you while you are on your """turn""".
It just goes to show you "turns" isn't what makes these games distinct.

SB filtered all the gay losers moralfags

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It's not Chinese or China only, it has an international release earmarked for later this year, it's releasing into the Chinese market first that's all.
Yes it's better than the current version of FFXIV, if you had kept up to date with the development you would know.

16 dye channels

Don't need to add items to the glamour box in order to access them

Npcs in the world outside hubs and give you quests and events

Different, varied

Revamp of Coils

No snap shotting, they fixed the netcode

Proximity voice chat and in game voice chat

Improved friendslist

animated World map

There are so many Qol improvements, I have barely started here.

youtube.com/watch?v=gPiG0OsxhPM

Wind-Up Succubus, my beloved.

He was my friend, get fucked.

Revamp of Coils

ehhhh this one's not so much a positive, this is the kind of homogenization in raid arena design people weep and shart about happening to shadowbringers up to early dawntrail

Once something starts in China, it never gets out.

Guys...I've only been raidlogging, there's nothing to do

or it starts in china and you wish it never left

Even the action RPG(SOP) has four niggas in a party and a great job system

I like XIV but I genuinely believe the game would improve if they just deleted DT and pretend it never happened.

HELLO?
ANYONE HERE?
WE ARE RECYCLING 2 YEAR OLD TOPICS

You mean no other game has mare sync right? because plenty of games do what XIV does just better.

the game would improve if they just deleted DT

I hate that stuff, where they try to appeal to the fanbase with like, "See? We ALSO know DT sucked dude! That's why we're going back to our roots!"

There are still good concepts in DT, boss design is at its best.

BEEP BEEP BOOP
ARGUMENT BOT 3000 IS LOADED ON EBT PURCHASED FOOD
COPYING PARAMETERS
POSTING COPYPASTA
SPAMMING IMAGES
ENGAGE

running batch file "delete dawntrail"

boss design is at its best.

I disagree, because the boss design is completely stifling job design.

If they deleted Dawntrail it would garner so much love due to how universally hated the expansion is.
Even the Arcadian raid story is dogshit, it started out kind of interesting and then fell off a cliff into a boring mess with the most recent raid update in 7.2

We can take the boss design of FFXIV and put it in absolutely any other game. And I mean ANY other game. Because the aspects that make bosses in XIV aren't things exclusive to fourteen.
And that's REALLY tragic when you think about it.

A lot of the raid stories aren't great.
Alexander is middling, Omega is an actual joke about a chicken and nostalgia, Shadowbringers is a coming of age lesbian light novel.

Genuinely only Bahamut and Elpis have good raid stories.

If they deleted Dawntrail it would garner so much love due to how universally hated the expansion is

XIV is the prime example in the industry of building off of past mistakes. If they simply bury Dawntrail, there's no point.

However, what made 2.0 work was that 1.0 was sincere, just technically bad. 7.0 is technically sound with a retarded story that invalidates past stories, not embellishes them.

I've casually lost on 97 and 98 rolls at least 20 times by now.

At best you'll get a 1 month sub if Bozja 2 is any good in the next week or so and a far more realistic expectation is coming back when the final patch drops when Bozja 2 is actually finished so I'll actually make use of a full month of sub time.

Definitely not preordering or buying their next expansion unless I get a bunch of confirmation it's great. DT is probably going to cause pre-orders to crater so low that shit like SB will look good by comparison. Absolutely annihilated the reputation the game had.

Anyways why is the orchestra version so clean for The Worm's Tail? "As Iron bends to steel, o'er my rivals I prevail" absolute hit in english, same for the orchestra version of The Final Day track.

Thanks for letting us know

Full version of that image for you. I unironically love it.

I will never not be fucking mad as hell about how all the demon lady variants, sirens, Scathach and to a lesser extent sin eater ladies have no art. Peak demon women...WASTED!

Who fucking made this image goddamn

glamour box bullshit

what is stopping SE from making a better system

please don't be futa

the little kid being an exposition scientist made me hate it

Development of everything else, usually

Dude, porn. I'm gonna goon. I'm jerkin' off right now. Help me out!

do some based moon crafting

finish a section

astronaut space people npcs take a group selfie.

based. I know the political grounded retards are seething.

tranny character

aiiiiieeeee my immersion that's permanently rooted in ARR era aesthetics and backdrop for some reason

just another tranny character.

Even ARR was infected by "member berries" with Ultima Weapon being a final boss.

based

crafting

I looked at that shit once and never bothered. Pure slop.

craft fate spam

slop

eureka 3.0 fate spam

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. trannies seething again.

what

I'm so glad my only friend that understood me remains dead.
One of the few good decisions Yoshit Pisshack made.

you shouldn't root your standards in the root of the game, you need to adjust them for new developers and players who hate the game's foundation

Tie the noose.

When the fuck is XIV Mobile coming to the rest of the world?
I really like some of the changes they're making with that to be honest.
I might even start playing that over the PC version.

they're both slop

I wish crafting wasn't the slog that they made it out to be. Island sanctuary somehow makes it feel worse, too. God damn.

THE MOBILE VERSION DOESN'T LOOK THAT GOOD NOBODY CARES ABOUT DYES AND NO DON'T RESPOND TO ME WITH THE FANFEST RESPONSE TO THE SECOND DYE CHANNEL THE MENUS LOOK THE SAME AND THEY ALSO LOOK LIKE KMMO GARBAGE JUST SHUT UP SHUT THE FUCK UP YOSHIDA IS OUR SAVIOR HOW FUCKING DARE YOU COME INTO MY THREAD AND ACT LIKE YOSHIDA ISN'T GIVING YOU EVERYTHING FUCK YOU FUCK YOU AAAAAHHHHHHHHH

the empire of garlemald is a congregation of simpletons.

gacha addicts be like

They're adding gacha to it?
Fuck. That sucks.

No, they're adding 16 dye channels for every piece of gear and selling you the dyes.
Btw the mobile version upgrades look kino but it's gonna die before leaving China because it has nothing to compete with goonercore gacha.

1.0 was about 3/4 FFXI assets anon.

also, there's nothing wrong with 14 wearing its legacy proudly. i even enjoy the ass pain when the ff14 version of something gets a MTG card, like Omega

said by a retarded lizard that wants to invade a continent with five major powers across the sea with a nation with no ships

DT had simply amazing writing

also wuk lied too when she tried to sell that to the wol.

zoraal ja being a retard was pretty well established imho.

i like to pretend him freaking out about meeting his son was him not knowing sex made babies

yeah honestly i dunno what the target market for FFXIV mobile is supposed to be. at best i think it'd be a very far-flung engine move for the main game after being retrofitted into the normal hotbar setup but that comes with its own risks and FFXIV is old enough it's not worth it to do that, especially when it would be breaking what already works. everybody's gonna bump into "there's nothing to do but crystal tower and coils every week, then grind relic weapons" same as everybody did during ARR proper

Pre ordered Endwalker

Got burnt out and dropped 14 before I could play it

Hear Dawntrail is a piece of shit thanks to a shitty story, Wuk Lamat, a tranny VA, etc

Also hear all the MMO content for Dawntrail is ass too

So I'm immediately assuming Stormblood was better?

it was pretty well established within 30 minutes of arrival that your primary reason for getting involved was actually a complete nonissue

Riveting storytelling here folks, you know I'm starting to agree that DT was actually kino and it was actually HW and ShB that were shit. Who's with me!

nice blog

Stormblood was better. Dawntrail is a trudge to playthrough.

I'm not sure what difference it makes to you if you burnt out before getting anywhere near either expansion.

Yeah, I know. (1.0 player myself that didn't know about XI at the time).
XI fascinates me that it has so much original stuff to it. I kinda wanna play it, but I'd rather keep the time committed to my autism to 14 completionism and other games. And I understand I "missed out" on the peak era of it.

If Square Enix had a fucking ounce of intelligence they might consider doing away with the current XIV engine and replacing it with the Mobile engine that comes with all of the QoL shit they're adding.
Nobody seems to be able to confirm or deny if that's the plan, but I doubt it is given how fucking stupid they are as a company.

its not surprising that the general opinion of the game goes up when more people are completing it

data migration without any loss means it's simply not happening, that is a nightmarish and nail biting thing to do even in a best case. FFXIV isn't in a do or die situation that would necessitate it like 1.0 to 2.0.

given how fucking stupid they are as a company

stones in glass houses

to feel the loot roll 97

yfw the dude that kept dying rolls a 98

THAL'S BALLS! Wuk Lamat??? And DAICHI HIROI?! What are you doing here?! What's that? You want to test a new type of REGULATOR? This new regulator RECYCLES the same soul over and over instead of fetching a fresh one?! What's that? You're going to KILL me and HARVEST MY SOUL?! You're then going to attach this new regulator to Y'shtola's WOMB with my soul loaded as currency?! The regulator will AUTOMATICALLY load her fertilized eggs with my soul and memories?! Furthermore, you're going to KILL Wuk Lamat and use a regulator to load her soul into my now-empty CORPSE?! Wuk Lamat will receive a copy of MY MEMORIES and live from this day forward as the Warrior of Light?! Huh? What'd you say?! She's going to impregnate Y'shtola over and over again, conceiving ME inside my own beloved?! And the new regulator also comes equipped with an ABORTION feature?! Wuk Lamat, no the new WARRIOR OF LIGHT, will impregnate Y'shtola nightly so that I might live briefly only to be EXECUTED within mere hours?! I will live in an eternal limbo of constant death without birth?! All the while Wuk Lamat becomes celebrated as the HERO OF THE STAR?! She's going to enjoy all these great adventures while Y'shtola grieves over he inability to PROPERLY CONCEIVE a child for her lover?! She will go to the grave feeling WORTHLESS and worms will squirm through her rotting flesh until one of them ACTIVATES THE REGULATOR?! I will be permanently trapped in the body of a WORM with nothing left to do but CONSUME the woman I intended to MARRY?! WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY BUT YABBA DABBA DOO! IT'S TIME FOR THE JOURNEY OF OUR LIVES!

you only have a 50% chance of winning a roll in a 24 man with a 97

huh that lizard guy was a non character

maybe patches will do more with him

NO NOT LIKE THAT

no one came out of 7.0 good.

koana

erenville his stupid mom

wuk

krile

stupid lizard kid character

spene was luck.

Is only me or the last dungeon trash mobs were easier than usual? or the pulls are smaller?, like It was a bit hard to do wall to wall with Trusts because the AI healer sucks but with last dungeon was totally doable.

You like Sea Popotos, don't you Anon?

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they limited their 'giant ranged mob in the middle of a normal pack' to one per dungeon instead of 1 per trash pack

pulls seem a bit more random in mob pack size with the last dungeon but overall threat level is about normal i think, that one roller machina enemy just before the literal wall boss having a "raidwide" that goes down the whole corridor surprised me

XIV isn't in a do or die situation right now

I wish I could see the looks on the sound designers faces the moment this sena kid started talking, also is sena even his real name? that sounds made up

Honestly, I just hope the Occult Cresent stuff is actually fun.

I need a Zenos minion

TRANNOID response

ketterman

gerolt

might be cool

war of magi factions

might be cool

its just concerning who will be the middleman between ketterman and wol.

i wonder if it will be thancred or urianger or *snicker* krile.

His name's probably Anthony or something. Troons choose the fuckign dumbest names.

The story has deteriorated massively without Zenos in it.

kate has simps in her clique working overtime to defend her on the internet even here. its nuts. I bet the sound designers loved it and were supportive of it.

>>r/shitpostxiv

tranny cope.

middleman

There isn't one

interesting.

should i fanta from Female Au Ra --> Male Au Ra?

i'm mentally ill just like a femra, schizoid like a femra, and paranoid like a femra
but i simp like a malera, stalk women like a malera, and i even got the FBI at my doorstep because i cyberstalked some FFXIV e-girl who i'm obsessed with, just like Magni is obsessed with finding his Moon

not sure which gender/race combo matches my soul the most

male midlander

Real men dont feel the need to impress others and assert themselves so desperetly.

10 years ago XIV was the only open world weeb game. Genshin and its clones have taken over that niche now. Sena and Kate just hastened the decline.

Wow dungeon trash is even stronger but it's also got mechanics that make it content you have to respect instead of just padding.

Why are there some people who feel as though you personally attacked them when you bring up how the game is actually struggling?

What's their problem?

They're insane. If you want to see some real shit, ask the resident white knight to prove he plays the game at all.

whoops, bringing up the year's ban set him off again, here comes the spam flood

My favorite time during an XIV thread. Finally, it's here.

Either will do so long as best defensive option doesn't require adderall in your system.

The laser hallway from Puppet's Bunker is still the best trash mob currently in the game, and it's sad that they've never even tried to do anything novel like it again.

do not underestimate the power of sunk cost troonery

even the lewd lalafell accounts have taken a break

its so over bros.....

He was the only person who understood my Dark Knight WoL

Hahahaha you dumb faggot you probably feel pretty smart don't you
Sorry. You're still a retard.

You're a furfag bud.

ziv is going to get raped by Star Resonance

FFXI works totally fine as a single player game, though it's even better with a friend or two to go along with you. If you are careful about not being overleveled for mission fights, you may even find those battles very enjoyable.

The peak era can be somewhat experienced with private servers, but that would require a huge commitment.
The only real catch for the retail version is that it is basically required to follow a guide, if not keep a wiki open at all times (though that can be overkill half the time).

1.0 had very little FFXI assets during its launch. When it went into panic mode and YoshiP(iss) took over, that's when the FFXI model reuse began to enter the game. It wasn't a ton though. It's only with 2.0 it became egregious and started to include FFXII and FFXIII. Perhaps what's more egregious is that they are still doing it to this day. Anyway saying that 50% (or more) of FFXIV's monster models are from other games (with some touch-ups) is 100% true.

Lmao whatever you say cultist faggot.

recent ban is mentioned

gacha and barry styled SE spam begins again

most of which was already deleted towards the beginning of the thread

And you have the gall to blame your imaginary friend Homestuck for your own actions.

You bring up the giant post wipe like 5 times a thread little buddy, what's your point here? Go on and spam report the spammer like you do when I repost the screencap of you admitting you're brown and don't think wypipo season dey food.

honestly ffxiv is the best game of the century just for the sheer amount of porn its made

ffxiv porn is utterly mediocre though, especially for its popularity.
do you jerk off to nude mods like a mexican who just got access to the internet or something?

Nobody wants to add any of the actually good shit to R34 sites though

Yeah they haven't hit their peak like how WoW stuff has... yet. Though that's mainly because SE cracks down on the ones that get too popular.

game isn't struggling

why do you get angry when i tell you you're retarded

do you guys even really care anymore after all the ancients are dead and gone now

So, chances of Calyx either creating Necron or somehow summoning him?

Because fuck you I like pressing Flare and I don't get many chances to do so outside dungeon trash.

the ancients died to their own mental retardation and inflexibility
i think it'll be his trump card but i'm keen on seeing how he actually gets to that point

Get your head checked dude. It's absolutely struggling. Do you think if you just ignore problems they magically get better?

Yes. Although the start of this new story arc is fucking abysmal.

maybe we should post about it every day on Anon Babble and complain about a dead webcomic by andrew hussie whenever we're told to go away

i dunno anon. dead games don't get daily threads that reach bump limit

writers fiat.

it will be like golbezs NO U when you beat him.

You're the guy who's been here for the last 11 months straight trying to tell people they're wrong for hating Wuk Lamat, right?

Well given what Necron is in IX, I honestly think it'll come into existence by him fucking up.... Oh.. OH! What if it's a VII situation and it's like a safety measure for the Aetherial Sea?

The real kicker about krilefag is that he's genuinely too brown and stupid to understand where the real art is so he scrambles to savage literally the worst westoid shit imaginable
Truly tasteless faggots put zero effort in

can't see it, the aetherial sea's come under direct fire and imminent destruction before a couple times and nothing like that's popped out, but it might tie into that "world serpent" stuff hinted at back in pandaemonium and the goldsmith role quests for endwalker

They absolutely do. That Andy and Leyley whatever game has daily generals here. But you're also retarded because XIV doesn't even get that anymore. There have been like two XIV threads in the past week and as homestuck likes to point out every chance he gets, half of one fucking thread was wiped out by one IP nuke. There are not more than a dozen unique posters in this thread right now.

is this drawthread drama or something

you forgot your emet-selch picture

were way past that shit. its not the current writers thing right now.

dumb thing to say when dawntrail calls back to mamool ja hanging around from ARR including a couple twoheads you personally killed

I don't have one. But please keep trying to insist both that threads aren't being artifically bumped and simultaneously that everyone is one person. I wanna see you try and work that out.

sounds like you already have my part of this argument wrapped up. just like you did last sunday when you argued with yourself and got deleted

7 of 9 posts mentioning homestuck in the thread where he got banned were him and got taken with him and match his typing style, but it wasn't him lol

the aetherial sea's come under direct fire and imminent destruction before a couple times and nothing like that's popped out

Yeah but nothing was directly fucking with the balance of reincarnation and the flow of souls. The Final Days was a nuke but didn't cause an imbalance, the imbalance between Incorporeal Aether returning to the Sea and Corporal Aether returning to the Land could cause countermeasures to activate... Or hell, it may just be a Shard thing to ensure that Shard Souls don't get completely erased and cause Source Souls problems.

Might be.

If you weren't autistic maybe you'd actually be able to examine writing styled properly. Then you wouldn't be baffled as to how I can spot you in random threads throughout Anon Babble. I already posted one of my actual posts from that thread, which wasn't deleted.

yfw Tataru see's your Popoto Crop and says it's gonna be used to produce Island Vodka instead of letting you turn them into Popoto Chips.

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gets called out

Begin...the Folder Dump

It does not fill me at all.
Yes, actually.

Who's dumping what?

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your folder

As Goes Autism, So Goes Images was a good patch

What folder though? Is someone dumping good shit or just 'evidence' slop?

Yeah I don't know, my FC has like 18 people active daily right now. Everybody is getting ready for the new foray. Things are doing fine.

Do you honestly expect me to take an article that unironically uses "gaslighting" in its title seriously?

CBU3 is staffed by failguard-tier commiefornians. When compared to chinkshit devs like zenless zone zero and wuwa who actually bother to write likeable characters, shilled by Doritos pope himself, the difference is night and day.

What westoid artist did you pull this one from?
Here, I'll reply. Someone will find this funny.

thats not gaslighting. you're being foolish

Puts Krile in a bikini top and booty shorts

Puts Alisaie in a matching outfit with Alphinaud

Not only were the twins retarded in DT, but they got cucked outfit wise.

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That looks like Kujalla's work.

Requesting Krile dressed like this, but holding a can of beer instead.

xivniggers are endless liars

Go back to your cuck chair, Hmofafag.

so are you saying chinese people are liars? because thats all chinese

Could you draw Krile in a wave pool, looking in horror at the massive wave that WoL just caused crashing towards her.

Please?

Jesus Christ you are unironically obsessed with that Potatofag guy.

mihomo just recast protagonists and rerecorded their lines. yoshitpiss has no excuse

Drawthread drama has escaped containment

Please no...

Yeah, but the voice acting gets worse and worse every fucking update. I am not sure if it is even worth it at this point.

non-zero chance all FFXIV thread spamming has been some retard jealous that somebody else got a request nicely fulfilled and took it out on the game('s threads)

'pear shaped'

kek

Its because Alisae uses a male body.

Give her the bountiful booba she deserves. In her dreams that is

'candy corn shaped'

alisaie beach outfit portrait looking up with determination

alphinaud beach outfit portrait looking like a sexy mink

kek did they mess up the earrings?

alisaie is the forever-virgin of the two

No, that's accurate.

true!
kek

Not after I'm done with her

Why do Dunesfolk women act so lewd?

More like he hides his muscles to not distract her

because they are desperate femcels

I liked Zenos ever since I had seen him first in Stormblood when I originally began playing the game, when he began giving me Camusian rhetoric. I instantly knew then that the character would be incredibly based if they stayed the course and I couldn't be happier with the way they had gone out.

He didn't really get good until you killed him the first time and he told you why he was the way he was. Basically somebody on par with the WoL but forced into the shitty uneventful life of a Garlean who couldn't find anybody to challenge him until you finally bested him. Hell, even even gave you several tries to beat him as he saw potential in you. Then when you had other fish to fry in EW he became more and more desperate for your attention he kept doing atrocity after atrocity to get you to focus on him again.

You know what I realized the other day? XIV actually does have a big female audience. And women are dumb as fuck and controlled by their emotions. Women don't mature cognitively past like 12 or 14 years old.
They stay as children.
So when they see criticism, they feel attacked. They don't process it in a normal way that a man can, for example.
So you have this big portion of the player-base that is just absolutely retarded.
And the cultist thing sticks because it's a mix of cuck ass simps and women and even some tranny freaks.

Suddenly the equation makes sense.

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tranny posts.

this is the bigger issue, way too much of it is spread between pixiv, twitter/x, patreon, etc sites with shit tags searches that I can't be fucked to go browse

show us a cis post, anon

I think this Magic crossover settles the issue that it is bad fucking news if FF14 looks at your favorite FF game to steal ideas from. From then on until end of service, if you try to address the fact FF14 didn't create that character or concept, you will be beset by countless Limsa idling trannies saying the same fucking things over and over again "Most popular FF" "Keeps SE funded" "No ones cares about FF #". "....UHHHH FF14 has Omega now, it can't be a FF5 card". It's not some form of promotion or celebration, it's a parasite or vampire.
And all FF14 does is take ideas from other games. What a fucking nightmare this series has found itself in. I remember the worst thing ever was just FF7 being a little too popular.

I'm a white male and I guarantee my dick is bigger than yours.

doesn't understand how men operate

calls other people trannies

projection much, ma'am?

Zenos is a pest begging for your feet pics every five seconds

hes a simp yea. lol.

I got the impression zenos hated being alive

You project an awful lot. Told your parents yet?

like a tranny.

Bro is definitely not beating the allegations, yeah.

He was probably set up to be an embodiment of Ancient apathy and stagnation when first concepted, once he had the agency of a legatus he could have done anything in the world he pleased and didn't but had an awful lot to say about his boredom, but they ended up pushing him off to the side in the name of finishing the story to ride the WoW wave so that meant nothing and we saw him in a new bancho coat for no reason in a cutscene once (he was still a Samurai in it, and when it was added to Dissidia NT it was on a delay for apparently being a spoiler, so he was probably also gonna be stagnant in the sense he never moved past Samurai while the player character changes poster-jobs every expansion)

Well, best girl got the best bikini, so all is well.

like the nibirun actually, he had everything handed to him and never had to suffer so what does he wanna do? Go and die

the shoes

wow patrician taste designer jap.

Zenos's actual problem was that he couldn't have what he wanted. Zenos wanted to go on adventures and take part in epic tales like those he read about, but instead his life was structured and planned out to the letter. He saw a chance to be in a story as a villain, so he took it.

The hyper boring combat kills any urge for me to play this for the story. The fact they keep cutting off the fat of the combat every expansion just makes it worse.

Y'shtola is fond of extravagant boots and shoes

one lone designer at square decides to make some unique boots-sandals for her beach outfit

I salute that one nip for his dedication. And no, those are not Ryne's boots.

Every time this post is made I'm yelling "YOU DON'T PLAY SAVAGE" at my monitor.

Savage is too scripted to be interesting and requires way too much reclearing for how scripted it is.

I can't think of a game with more complex combat than XIV.

They drop materia, at least the ones in expert dungeons.

I am yelling "YOU DON'T PLAY SAVAGE" at my monitor at this post also.

Probably what comes most close are Granblue Relink and Destiny.

This is an issue for the entire game. I hope the foray will mix things up, but the baseline Jobs are in such a poor state right now. But with how they are doing Savage, they can't change Jobs to be more complex.

You don't even play the game.

Is this modded? I thought Square was super prude with their poster girls.

banned for a year

Now, if they just could use it in the MSQ and give my WoL the option to go /AWOOOGA I'd be content.

She bikini outfit is unlockable for her as a Trust NPC if you get her to level 100, but the boots are modded.

cosmic is dead

even servers like Balmung fail their fates

no hype for crescent

Sad state this game is. At least the content will still be there when 8.0 hits and maybe turn things around.

Fuck, meant '"her bikini outfit is unlockable for her as a Trust NPC".. Meant to rewrite the entire sentence and forgot to change the first word of my original post.

The boots are just like that, there is no mod. They actually gave her unique boots and painted her toenails.

Oh shit, I didn't actually know that. Haven't bothered to get any NPC to 100 this expansion as I hit 100 on every class before then and can't be bothered to do Trusts just to do them.

I'm on a major server on Aether and I pop in every night for a bit to work on gold medals and it's a fucking wasteland already. There are only ever around 10 people in there and the progress hardly moves. I signed up for a mech pilot for the dailies yesterday and I was the only one there. I'll be shocked if it's even done before the next planet comes out.

all these cute xiv girls

can't date them

I hate it.

Puts Krile in a bikini top and booty shorts

Puts Alisaie in a matching outfit with Alphinaud

Not only were the twins retarded in DT, but they got cucked outfit wise.

It is pretty fascinating to see how little engagement Cosmic has. I am pretty sure Crescent will be a bit better, but I have no idea how long it'll last.

Zenos was, ans will always be, my friend.

They should have time gated the relic steps harder as once everybody got all theirs due to no-lifing it they left. As on Sarg the other night and we failed the next base expansion and only has like 30 percent of the meter filled when the FATE failed as there was only about 70 people in there and most were AFK or ignoring the FATE by chatting or continuing their crafting/gathering.
Not like I blame them as the expansion FATES are fucking retarded anyway, especially since this one was another "run back and forth from rovers to the batteries for 40+ minute".

Bitch please. Base Lalafells are fine

Alisaie is a man

tranny

ff8

OHNONONOONOON super tranny

and I fucked up the second sentence, I need to stop typing when tired.

shes the worst leveilluer
a stupid cunt
and awful fighter.

Are you having a stroke?

shut up tranny

no Zenos

no Emet

no Hythlowaifu

ugly bitches ever

Nu-Sphene and evil!Sphene are going to die

No point in playing this shit game anymore

He's right though. Krile and Y'shtola got swimsuits and the twins got matching explorer outfits. Virtually every single 'young' female in the game has a male body and they couldn't find the effort to give Alisaie a modified Hyur/Elezen torso for swimwear.

It suits her as well!

He's parroting for some reason.

It's so stupidly unbalanced and shows the ground support is just an illusion to make the non-mech players feel like they're contributing, as the mechs do like 98 percent of the progress. Hell, just one active can do the entire FATE by themselves as I did that the other night when I was the only pilot and like 4 other flamethrower players.

How many upgrades are left for the moon? We got like 10 or so and there's still a huge chunk left in the log to fill.

Funny enough you can go to a fate, do one thing as a ground unit, leave and still get the full 20 craft boost even if it fails.

Oh, didn't see that.

i cant believe peopel like hytlotwink.

he had more charisma as a mysterynigga

Remove hrothgars from the game

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we should have gotten lupine.

Sure, whatever, at least they would have been from doma instead of ruining bozja and tural

be on dynamis

realize the moon content is programed to auto-complete itself even if no one is doing it

we've never succeed a rank up fate, they just complete themselves after failing twice

there aren't enough players to ever fill the progress bar for the next stage, yet it starts randomly filling throughout the day

its probably like this so no server is left behind when the next major patch adds a new planet

amazing content really

We should have gotten Ivalice moogles.

fleshes out the scions

lets you bond with them in a non world ending situation

gives your characters way more stakes in the MSQ

if it is a weekly it would bing more people to your game than the housing rent

the only thing you can't do any more is fakeout kill the faces of your marketing, which is retarded to begin with

could even sell 'forget me not' potions in the mogstation to reset the relationship to blank to bond with another Scion for turbo faggots who can't settle down

There are only positives to such a system, the developers are retards for not doing it.

If this wasn't a thing, Oceania would still be at stage 1

Making each world have it's own version of the base was retarded thinking, but the dev team doesn't seem to think much about anything anymore.

Little buddy the Homestuck

Ready for summer, but not ready for the mosquitoes that will follow...

Yeah ishgard was the same, casual content is a big joke, casuals hate playing the game

any explanation for this?

I just realized I don't think I've seen more than a handful of male Raen players in my past few years of playing.

Y'shtola sexxo?

Y'shtola sexo

Krile sexo

females make males' peepee hard. You probably forgot since you chopped yours off.

everybody draws the maid outfit with a short skirt while the in-game version is as prudish as can be

thank god for mods fixing it.

Because canonically many are size queens, and lafell women are "stretchy" as SE delicately puts it.

Maybe I'm overthinking this but when we switch to shards where exactly is that black space we are in and floating through? That's not space but it seems to be wherever the shards are held or something

GAME IS DEAD OKAY? IS DEAD!! WHY WON'T YOU LISTEN

one day, barryto, one day
one thing is for certain. XIV will outlive WoW

I did. Still think face 4 looks weird but for some reason everybody loves it the most, especially Xaelas.

Y'shtola sexo

Femra supremacy

It's the Interdimensional Rift. It's not anywhere, it just between everything. It's the same way characters like Gilgamesh travel between games.

the space between worlds, usually called the Rift. capital R

That would explain why Hyur men can't get enough.

Give Krile the booba she deserves.

Hyur men fuck catgirls , only losers who go for old whores like momodi like lalas

It's the Rift as others said and more than just the shards are connected to it. Omega can peer into other worlds via it which is how it made it's boss trials, and Greg uses it to cross dimensions even though he can't really choose his destination as he's still trying to reach the FF5 world again all these generations later (Omega probably could have helped him actually).

She is 44 years old.

Wrong

essentially a walking corpse, moldy and dilapidated

grim

estinien on vacation

thancred and urianger ???????????/

krile off screen looooool

what the fuck is happening.

Yes and? She'll drain your balls and make you breakfast the next morning.

Correct actually

That fucking loser simping for momodi and getting rejected

Meanwhile the absolute chad from the alc quests fuck catgirls
Hahahaha

Krile had her 3 minutes of plot relevance, she's no longer needed.

They did that girl dirty. DT was a clusterfuck of horrifically bad writing. The level and fight designers have been doing a grand old job but will the writers ever fix their shit?

Promote whoever made me care about Hector.

It seems like they are starting to get their shit together with the 7.2 msq

I prefer Fufucha.

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you can play every job on a single character

every job is boring

gulool ja kid still there

calyx boring as fuck

shale

only good thing is speens

hating Shale

Both Shale and Sphene are hot

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Shame one will die and the other will languish in irrelevance.

SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

They're probably going to do something bad to OG Sphene and I'm gonna be pissed. She's the only bright spot in the entirety of DT's shitty story.
At the very least I know they're going to Lyse her and remove her from the game world once the expansion is over.

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I bet they shut off solution 9 and it goes all black and blocky like living memory

All of north tural should be given to alex 9, south turalians are beastmen and have queer customs

Krile with a beach ball

I doubt anything will happen to S9 since it's the second game hub of the expansion and thus will always have people wandering through it for story reasons as they suffer through DT in the future.

I unlocked cosmic exploration and avoided it like the plague when I realized how mind numbingly boring the gameplay loop is

I love her so much. Make her a traveling companion and I'll forgive DT for all it's other sins.

red alert missions don't give you bonus research points for your tool based on the rank you get

why

Thoughts on Dewlala?

Just for you, schizo.

only time Krile can be happy is in fan art

sad potato

Imagine if lalas were actually cute instead of gross jews

Even in fan art, she isn't safe.

Do you guys think there's any chance of SE changing course on FFXIV now that WoW is deliberately shitting on it with its content cadence and the QoL of its upcoming housing feature?

Or are they going to let it die a slow death, continuing the formula of doing nothing about their backend and justa dding bandaid after bandaid?

Endwalker killed the game, but people are not ready admit it. Rendered the entire game world pointless outside a story it concluded.

Take that back or I'm stealing your balls

They will do nothing.
Even the mobile version is showing how XIV needs an entire engine update to do the same shit the 'junior cash grab' is doing but nothing will come of it.

*kick you*

Y'shtola (Savage)

That I can deny. I'm not even subbed.

Thank you for bringing the magical item Krile. Now back to the rear of the bus so we can watch plot hole baby do the important shit.

You fool! You've only aroused her!

At least there's a TV back there.. now if only they let her play something other than Mega Man.

she will play until she can no hit yellow devil

I miss ARR era Y'shtola. Hopefully 8.0 does another outfit update for everybody again.

She's gonna be there a while then.

Sadly Krile is just as much of a plot hole in the story

parents defect and bring their baby and magic key to the source

they go back and leave her with some random hobos

still gets to go to Ai heaven even after fucking up the plans

So.. do they not realise that this is only gonna cause the players to bitch them out even more? Because it's looking like the Mobile version is literally adding a ton of the shit players have wanted for years.

using Rolling Cutter instead of Elec Beam

This potato is supposed to be a Sharlayan graduate?

Yeah that didn't really make any sense. Especially since they apparently dies BEFORE Living Memory went online. Hell so dif Otis and yet he had a copy there too.

I honestly think they genuinely want people to migrate to the mobile version, which they'll also monetize way more aggressively.

They did that because it's the monetization of the game instead of a sub. You pay for the dyes with real money.

I think Endless Sphene pretty much forgave everybody as she was programmed to have back-ups of everybody made if they were from Solution 9/Alexandria.

Eh, the hood is her shtick. Her bikini however is 10/10 sexo yet cute.

She got into the Studium because she had the Echo and because Galuf is her grandfather... Pls don't bully. She's socially awkward.

I would have cared more about exploring the source and shards if the world was more like pre-ShB. Dawntrail made it clear there's nothing worth seeing out there so I don't care.

Krile was either the weird, socially inept kid or the one that always got into fights.

Nepotism then, embarrassing

WoW's new housing system has dyes too, which indicates they're very likely to implement dyes for gear as well in next year's expac.

It's weird to see FFXIV which basically started as a MoP template that heavily improved on the QoL and features like that now getting schooled hard.

Krile with a sunburn telling an off screen WoL that if he even thinks of poking her, she will punch him in the dick.

I mean, same goes for the twins. The game claims they got in early because they were smart, but we've seen that they are actually kinda retarded.

Only Alisaie is, Alphinaud is at least book smart

Alph's problem is that he was too trusting and didn't expect deviancy from the Crystal Braves due to his sheltered upbringing. Alisaie just brute forces her way through everything and doesn't even have an Archon mark.

Krile please. Front focus.

Do you think Krile ever got detention while at the Studium?

Alph's problem is that he was too trusting

ARR shows otherwise. He didn't trust WoL, he saw him as a tool.

What's Krile watching tonight?

One Piece scat porn

What level of obsession is this?

Yes! With me, after hours

That was an arrogance issue, not a trust issue.

inb4 the localization schizo tries to say it doesn't exist in the JP again because he doesn't actually understand Japanese

They wont allow Krile relevancy

you haven't hanged yourself yet, loser?

Krile isn't an Archon

G'raha is an Archon

Krile is apparently smarter than G'raha though

Huh?

starts crip walking

Vizex Xene
On da scene
Look so cool so fresh so clean

Ayo where dat mouf goin lil bro! You gettin a little too friendly my man!

Motherfucker he only starts showing WoL actual trust in HW. And the Crystal Braves was arrogance, not trust.

Krile was too busy working with grandpa and didn't care about getting her PhD.

We can hang out if you really want Anon

That's his haughtiness and arrogance in play and thinking he knew everything when he really didn't. It took Ilberd and Teledji playing him for an absolute fool that he realized he's not as smart as he thought he was. Even in HW he still treated the WoL as an attack dog for quite awhile until he started seeing them more as a person than a tool. A lot of people still treat WoL like that though even now so it's not like he was special in that regard.

Krile is just Ysthola without anything even slightly interesting, being a lala is her only appeal

I think she was just scared of going into the cave

Krile is an empath and she was the cheeky one before SB post-MSQ suddenly changed Y'shtola's personality to be like Matoya.

Yeah Y'shtola kinda stole Krile's shtick

Y'shtola has turned into a living plot device, she hasn't had a personality since the one wishy washy boss meme

Same thing happened to Thancred and Urianger. Thancred especially has been at a dead end ever since the end of ShB. I don't want him killed off but they should retire him for awhile until he can go see Ryne again, or at least have him go back to his playboy ways for comedy.

Krile was created because Ysthola was gone, they could be combined into the same character and literally nothing would change