average gamer media literacy be like
Average gamer media literacy be like
with convection
You're safe in Legion territory
You're not safe in NCR territory
It really is that simple
Vegas doesnt belong to you brokies. It really is that simple.
media literacy = taking everything at face value
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as long as your character has ideals that people identify with then people will identify with him and his ideals, regardless of how much of a "caricature" you try to make him, you can kill a man, mock him, humiliate him, but ideals will never die
ncr heartland is safe though, its only mojave where they have problems
Get shot by a cattle baron's goon
is this the redd1t thread?
we must be le brutal slavers who crucify people for humanity to le survive le wasteland
nevermind that ncr has survived, bos has survived, independent settlements have survived, followers of the apocalypse who are total hippies have survived and so on
Media literacy exclusively invoked to imply that the only reason someone would disagree with your opinion is because they just don't understand.
I don't think I've ever seen it used in a context that wasn't someone just being insufferable.
it's the reddit board
The problem is generic scrimblo mcbadguy villains are sooo boring. You have to ground them in some way
Objection! Conjecture! Objecture!
I think there's a reverse poe's law in a lot of cases, a sincere expression of a belief is often seen as obvious caricature by political opponents of that belief, just look at dustborn, it's a sincere expression of the dev's beliefs but it just looks like a caricature to right wing people
The NCR is corrupt it's just a cabal of rich barons screwing over the rest of the population by taxing the hell out of them and taking their land if it's valuable.
ive called out people who claim asoiaf is nihilistic because the good guys get hurt and the bad guys score wins media illiterate. sure the starks got btfo, but the entire point ever after the red weddinf was that the north remembers because starks were actually good people, and the lannisters lose everything because being a psychopath doesnt actually work in the long run.
you will never be a member of the Gun Runners
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shit take. theres a giant list of bad guys who are absolute bastards and they are exteemely memorable and liked.
None of those are as safe as the Legion and "survived" is generous, NCR lost its entire capital
convection
>You're safe in Legion territory
Because I have a rule to never leave an area with one alive, yes.
one guy says merchants love the Legion because they are safe in legion territory
he exclusively sells garbage
there's a shitload of mirelurks right next to the Legion landing site that rapes every legionnaire that gets close
every Legion assault past the river gets summarily slaughtered by absolute shitter NCR troopers with assault rifles
only reason Legion is able to do anything is by recruiting/enslaving/handing guns to random tribal savages
Legion economy is so poor that they have to rely on woman slaves to move around equipment
The problem with the Legion is that their mode of conquest fails the moment they run out of numbers, which is apparently immediately considering they stop making any ground and have to rely on recruiting Fiends and Khans and other degenerates to do anything. Legion also feels like it has an unreasonable amount of plot armor, why the fuck would degenerates side with the faction that openly and eagerly plans on slaughtering them? It's just retarded, the Legion is a meme faction and in-game has less reach than the Fiends.
I think it just depends on what type of story you want to tell, if you just want a black and white story where the bad guy is bad then that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that, if you want a nuanced story with a nuanced villain then that is fine too, I think problems rise when you mix the two, which is what many redditranny storywriters do, they want to do a nuanced ambiguous story because black and white storytelling is like le heckin toxic masculinity and shit, but then their villains are just black and white bad guys, which is causing a dissonance for anyone reading a story, it's like they want to sniff their own farts about how the world is complicated but then are too pussies to say that their enemies can also be complicated and nuanced with their set of motivations, like if your villain is a simple bad guy then your hero has to also be a simple good guy, if your protagonist is complicated and nuanced then the villain also has to be complicated and nuanced
bethesda was so booty blasted about FNV they had to wipe out the NCR in a slop show
Holy shit the shitfumes of the asshurt romaboo legionkek is STEAMING right now
That's a weird myth, there never was any bad blood between Bethesda and Obsidian. This seems to stem from the fact that FNV didn't get the rating they needed to get the cash bonus from Bethesda. Sucks but a contract is a contract. Josh Sawyer said numerous times that there was animosity between the studios and if Bethesda offered them to develop another Fallout game he'd happily do it.
The most egregious example would be Senator Armstrong. Raiden correctly summarizes his ideology as "batshit insane" but he's charismatic and memetic so retards just go "yooo he do be kinda right fr fr".
No he isnt morons, you wouldnt want to live in whatever world he envisions (you wouldnt live for long anyhow)
fun fact: the thread screencapped in OP actually used Armstrong's pic but for some reason you only see the version with Caesar edited in being reposted all the time
STAND UP BROTHA THE HEAT IS RISING
define media literacy, in the context of vidya, without sounding like a faggot
Did you just finish reading Machiavelli's The Prince?
I guess its easier to ragebait Legion chuds. I dont think anyone TRULY agrees with Armstrong
its easier to ragebait Legion chuds
This. Romaboos are the most obnoxious of all the historical LARPer fangroups.
Legionfags are fucking morons what else is new. NCRfags are too glassed to complain about whatever direction their pride and joy was heading in.
There is a loophole in that logic though.
It presumes that the writer of the satire has a 100% plausible common sense mindset and that anything the writer of the satire writes is actually universally accepted as being "intentional unreasonable exaggeration".
Unfortunately, in the current landscape there are plenty of writers who have been exposed to a DEI echochamber so much that something that according to the usual common sense would be quite normal is instead presented like it's exaggerated satire. In such cases saying "he's right though, you know" is actually the normal reaction. Dunno about OP pic since I haven't played that game.
if you acknowledge basic problems, people will sympathize even if you're retarded
revolutionary epiphany
villain has no character or motivation, just a cardboard cutout who randomly does bad things advance the plot
you will never be a real antagonist
Legionfags claiming the NCR is corrupt when their leader literally has banned tech in his boyfucker tent
NOOOOOO STOP HAVING YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION ON THE MEDIA YOU CONSUME! YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO THINK LIKE ME AND REACH CONCLUSIONS I APPOVE OF! IF YOU DONT DO THAT YOU'RE DUMB AND WRONG
average gamer media literacy be like
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average gamer media literacy be like
Maybe it's our unwillingness to believe that any multi-million dollar project can have such simple and one dimensional characters
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This isnt media literacy problem per se. Replace Ceasar with Trump and you have the same thing happening IRL.
nah I think that's fine, that's what sauron was in the lotr trilogy, did giving him some past in the netflix show make him better? it was just cringe and lame, sauron is cool as sauron, but also i think you can get around this somewhat if you just have multiple protagonists and multiple villains with some of them black and white and some of them nuanced, like how watership down did it, hazel and the general were black and white good guy bad guy characters, they were both in charge of their own destiny and leaders, but hazel represented the good leader, kindness, freedom while the general represented the bad leader, cruelty, oppression, and the other pair in the story was fiver and cowslip, as the nuanced hero and villain, they were not in charge of their destiny, fiver is granted prophetic visions by frith and he doesn't have much of a choice other than following those visions, which is all he does, if he didn't follow the visions he'd be dead within the first 5 minutes of the story, he's doing good things but not due to any volition of his own, he's just a product of his circumstances, and cowslip is also just a product of his circumstances, he's living in a velvet cage and is just act accordingly, what else is he gonna do? kill the farmer? he's a rabbit, how is he gonna defy a human with a gun, fiver and cowslip are both just beholden to godlike entities and act according to their situation, for fiver it's frith for cowslip it's the farmer, granted the story spends most of it's time with the conflict between hazel and the general while fiver and cowslip have like 5 minutes of screentime, but still you can have a story that includes both black and white and nuanced heroes and villains if you pair the nuanced heroes with the nuanced villains and simple hero with the simple villain
Literally all of the groups you just listed are failing/dying
Every NV canon ending has the Legion get wiped out, meanwhile House, NCR and even Independant endings show them perfectly fine moving forward.
be like
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convection
what a fucking idiot lol
and someone actually screencapped it thinking it was profound lmao
ESLs gonna ESL
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holy shit gays, how is it possible that people fall for strongmen who speak with conviction and eloquence?
btw what are cults?
and why are half the countries outside the "the west" controlled by totalitarian military dictatorships???
Is that really a thing of everyone being a retard, or New Vegas trannies being clinically brain-dead?
why the fuck would degenerates side with the faction that openly and eagerly plans on slaughtering them?
Did you know Hitler was taught oration by a Jew? He was coached on speeches by this guy AFTER becoming leader of the Nazi party
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I just killed everyone in their camp and I killed most of the other factions too. Only I get to be in charge. Billions must die. Fuck everyone who isnt me.
Muh media literacy
Didn't you reddit fags get blown the fuck out hard enough already?
Reddit Fallout moderators deleted a post by Cain?
This is based ideology because its completely irrefutable. Only by force but if they kill you, they become just like
Gets crucified and entire family executed and enslaved if you disobey a Legionnaire
media literacy
As long as your character is charismatic and speaks with convection
people will agree with what they say
Correct. Videogames need more charismatic characters who speak with convection
I mean he basically did say all of reddit was wrong
The simple fact is that the Legion's days are numbered, they're already far too large to protect their borders and are currently running purely on fear rather than any actual border protection
Their entire economy and basic food supply depends on a constant influx of slaves, but due to this enormous size, acquiring more slaves becomes exceedingly difficult, NV is just about the last major place they'll conquer because the Legion cannot ever invade NCR territory successfully due to basic logistical constraints
And of course, their leader has an expiration date and they have no mechanism of succession
And to top it all off, they are going to swiftly run into demographic issues because they can't actually replace soldiers nearly as well as you would imagine, given that about 90% of their population has to be an agricultural worker of some sort and there's no reasonable way the Legion population is much higher than 100k maybe 200k
Video games are not art, they are entertainment. They don't deserve to have thought put into them by gamers because there isn't thought put into them by developers.
there are hardly any Legion area THOUGH
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