Why did mecha games die?

People say this but gunpla has quietly exploded in popularity. This "mecha is dead/dying" take is an opinion formed in the mid 2000s during the lul in mecha productions, but if you look up how gundam is doing now it's suddenly a household name again and gunpla sells as much as things like magic the gathering.
They can like mechs, they just need an entry point and there wasn't any of them for years. No one's going to get freshly into mecha while there's no mecha being made.

quite a bit longer ago than that, actually, but the first trailer was only at the S2 games direct.

Mechwarrior

monkeys paw situation, we're finally getting games but they're all made by PGI who suck ass at making games and just copy paste MWO. At least mercs is "good" with 100+ mods. Also trannies are hellbent on ruining Battletech.

titanfall

dead, no combined arms mech game EVER

Armored Core

Button mashing hyperfast japslop but it was pretty fun admittedly
That's pretty much it. There's that game "Engines of Destruction" which looks cool (has functioning cockpits) but it's indie and looks like an alpha.

Play the VersionThree - INVISIBLE RAID demo in steam. Its an Armored Core 1 clone through and through.

the mystique died with the move to HD graphics/lighting etc. everyone does the same copypasted sci fi shit now

is gundam the only mecha left?

Dolls Nest?
MW Mercs?
AC6?
steam lists 1,572 mecha games idk what the fuck opee is on about
my wife says play her game when your done jerkin it to ardjet and neith

Orbital frames are such cool weapons. Sucks we never got 3

What game is this?

Also the issue is people dont want super robot wars type mecha with aces against aces.. People want a Battlefield type game with different classes of grunt robots in 32 vs 32 giant war zone maps

Mech vs Mech isn't that fun compared to tank vs tank or plane vs plane. Mechs are just large humans by nature of their mobility. Thus you'd need a mech game where your enemies are literally everything, with enemy mechs themselves acting as elite units you have to fight, mini-bosses, and regular bosses. There's also the problem that it's fun to use vehicles in games like World of Tanks/War Thunder/Battlefield because the maps are open world and these vehicles are literally designed to fight in open spaces. You'd have to find what a mech is theoretically designed to excel in because just dropping a mech in a big open plain would be boring because again it's just a giant human, so tanks and other vehicles are just sitting ducks and there's little challenge other than the quantity of what you're up against. It would need to play more realistically like HAWKEN, but with Battlefield-sized maps with (old)Battlefield destructible environments and it can't just be mech focused, even in multiplayer. Most players should be tanks/planes with only a few mechs on each side, and I think both teams need AI soldiers and such. It would also help to create more fantasy vehicles that are designed to go up against the mech so you don't have the problem of everything being an easy target.
IMO mechs are just too powerful to just half-ass a simple mech vs mech game. It really needs a lot going on otherwise the power fantasy of steamrolling everything that isn't a mech will get boring, and pure mech vs mech fights will also get boring because again at that point you're just dueling a giant human with a jetpack and stuff compared to the physics and grace the likes of an airplane is limited to which makes plane vs plane more interesting and strategic.

giant robot futas made of magical sentient space rocks that drive their pilots completely insane: a game by hideo kojima

ZOE is pure kino

FromSoft were bruteforcing their Elden Ring hype to sell their mecha game to normies at the time and it worked. I wonder if they can do the same thing with AC7.

they are too outdated or play like shit

Zone of the enders
The third game was cancelled by Konami a while back

It's the only current thing that hasn't fucked itself to death with bad decisions, I guess. Titanfall died, pacific rim died, shit like synduality or borderline died. Lots of bad decisions being made over stuff with potential. 86 seemed pretty popular though.

Most players should be tanks/planes with only a few mechs on each side

Insanely cucked out take. It's okay for mechs to be cool and the stars of the show and this endless capitulation that they need to be minimized and reduced is hopeless. Armored core alone shows that you can easily make 100% mecha focused gameplay with variety in enemies work just fine.

IMO mechs are just too powerful

There's nothing that says they have to be unstoppable though. There's plenty of mecha where the mechs are crappy or at least have massive flaws you have to put effort into working around.

Are there any older mecha games worth playing except Armored Core? Zone of Enders doesnt even let you build your own robot

Chromehounds

Yeah and it was based.
Playable ekdromoi and various pca crafts available in next game hopefully.

This is why.

you can take that a bit too far and end up with Virtual-On which has a complex plot and story but the games never touch on it because they're arcade fighters. You have to read the books or the audio dramas which are all untranslated and in complex, prosaic Japanese.
like they released Marz on PS2 which was VO Force with an actual SP story but that's a bit like if the first Star Wars movie was Return of the Jedi. Even in English the story is completely indecipherable to anyone who isn't a massive fucking weeb for the game and it's setting (like me).

Would give my left nut for a Virtual On game with the gameplay scale of Armored Core.

That image is like fifteen fucking years old now. Those children are office workers.

It's the only current thing that hasn't fucked itself to death with bad decisions

lmao

armored slop feels like a damn phone game

Waiting for Kriegsfront Tactics, i liked the new demo

Armored core is like ace combat. Characters are cooler because you don't see them and can project whatever design you want on them. And you're hearing the voices through encrypted radio channels which multiplies the cool factor because radio are cool and so is military jargon.
Women would never understand.

ace combat. Characters are cooler because you don't see them

?
Pixy is probably one of the most famous parts of the entire series. Many of the games have visible casts, too.

And there's the music and tubular mechs.
Mix up all that and you get a recipe for something even more rad than shirts with fire and skull patterns.

youtu.be/keV4kOa84xM

Those I played didn't get much space outside of miniature portraits and short cutscenes. Take 7 and none of the characters you fly with are showing up in cutscenes and you're given battle names and emblems to work your imagination with.

What do you suppose the tactical purpose of giving your giant robot tits and child birthing hips is?

DaemonXmachina 2 is coming ...soon? I really liked the first one so theres that.Unfortunately the ones that were promising turned out to be arena shooters which make me vomit on sight.

's cool

style and cool factor. psychological warfare starts as soon as the enemy thinks you're cooler than they are

kojima took "cockpit" too literal when he created those robots

You have to maintain a center of gravity if you want your humanoid mechs to fly around

ZoE mechs are more mythologically inspired than most, sort of parallel to Evas but referencing things like Egypt instead of the Kabbalah.

She literally crushes children to death in the opening intro for the hell of it in the first game. Crazy to think they made her AI clone sympathetic in the second game

Ah
Really puts everything on perspective about kojima and all his symbolism about freemasons and stuff in DS

because nips stopped caring about it
what was the last big mecha anime? aldnoah zero?

Iron blooded orphans

WFM and the new one made like a bajillion dollars.

JEHUTY IN 1080P

mecha break when?

wanted to replay ZOE2

find an emulator and rom

play through it, have a blast

then find out there's a PC port of it

Was this THE biggest waste of potential in recent years?

Don't worry, you missed out on trademark Konami shitty port optimization, and denuvo

all they added was VR mode, but who cares about that.
PS2 version is still the better choice

I couldn't get the PC port to work. I tried all the "fixes" and fanpatches, but it nothing made it run properly.

The ports didn't really fix or improve much honestly. The only thing you're really missing out on is that they were based off of Special Edition, which had more EX Missions and some tweaks, alterations and small content additions.

I am somewhat planning to start working on a game (I have a concept of a plan you could say).
However, the only mecha game I actually like is Tf2, specifically their pve mode. I hate jap mechs and "le zip zap physics defying robot with sticc waist" trope.
Are there any other western mecha games that are not mechwarrior that I could take a look at to see what works and what doesn't? I am not building an actual sim, I think the market for this is like 3 people, and they will be captured by mechwarrior itself anyway.

It can't be worse than 480p 30 FPS, right?

This.

i wanted to like this but

95% of the levels are basically the same shit with limited maps that aren't even recycled in creative ways

95% of the parts in any given category do the same shit

fairly certain none of the stats actually make a difference aside from item level, hp, damage, and equip weight limits

unlocking larger mechs is not only grindy as fuck even with hacked currency but also mostly detrimental since the benefits of slightly higher damage and hp don't offset the extreme reduction in mobility

want gundam breaker 4

"nah it's pretty mediocre, not new breaker bad but not really comparable to the games prior either"

that gundam seed battle destiny game looks interesting

"nah that's a handheld port and kind of super shit"

every indie mecha game is either PvP only or looks really, REALLY bad

GODDAMMIT

And Medium and Large parts don't even drop until you finished the fucking game.

mechassault is a more arcadey version of mechwarrior

there is also starsiege, heavy gear, and brigador

front mission if you want japanese mecha that is far more grounded

what kind of a faggot kid doesn't like robots? no wonder japan is screwed.

I hate jap mechs and "le zip zap physics defying robot with sticc waist" trope

none of them are western mechs

Observe.

VOTOMS had pretty grounded mechs.

congrats you found the joke

I know I just wanted an excuse to post titans

kek nice
version 2

though they never explain how their roller skates works on anything but even terrain

mellowlink was really cool though

but MEGAS is western

Mad that covid pretty much killed Garrison Archangel. Possibly literally.

tubular

Yeah and it's a shitty power armor slop.

this is what I hate most about nu-AC. unironically. the cutscene shit is just fucking annoying. its trying to be deep but its as shallow as a kiddy pool. they should just stick to short quips on the radio

Ace Combat is predominately a melodramatic slop, written by chuuni rejects.

Ace Combat 0 is the outlier that people meme to this day because it's a lightning in a bottle.
AC5? Melodramatic slop but it worked because 0 elevated the context for it despite releasing after it.
AC6? Utter dogshit slop for retards.
AH? Niggerslop. Not part of the franchise but it showcases just how retarded AC writers are because it's more obvious in real world setting.
AC7? Dog.jpg and princess dogshit for niggeretards.

Project Aces should just give up and go back to full blown anime method of AC4 and AC3(JP).

and millions got filtered by a helicopter.

The fuck are you saying? You know Gundam is still selling millions of model kits in Japan alone?

mecha caters mostly to the japanese, westerners like mechs instead

They should make a War Thunder like game with mecha animals. Humanoid mechs are gay and boring.

The fucking hacks. ZOE and ZOE 2 are great games and the series should have continued.

Yeah dude.
Sorry if your feeble confidence restrains you from using smooth as ice adjectives.

The franchise that named 'mech as a concept used japanese designs. The mech/mecha thing isn't real.

INDIEGODS LET'S GO

youtube.com/watch?v=HNfhued5I9U

youtube.com/watch?v=hsu5cxQB_4s

youtube.com/watch?v=DKZ4mZykcBI

Tanks and infantry should go the Titanfall route and be AI chaff for the players to farm points off.

melodramatic slop, written by chuuni rejects

so lets keep the mind numbing parts where you DONT shoot anything to a minimum. preferably 0 minutes

Being honest? they all suck
Spastic shit without meta or flavor

Nudevs can't into floating point math.
Leaning on the mask instead of the actor allows actors to embody concepts, cultures and groups, enabling a higher level of storytelling.
It's why homeworld failed when it decided to put a human face on everything.

We'll never get a PS2 era Megas XLR game

because when westoids think of giant robots they think transformers and turn into massive psueds who pretend that they are too good for it.
There's also the fact that gundam is the face of mecha and there hasn't been anything good to come out of that for 20+ years
Japan is dominated by shallow western imitators and conservatives who couldn't run a bubble bath. The spirit of Japan sold out decades ago.

we will never get something half as beautiful as tequila gundam again are we?

I'll argue that the japanese devs behind ac and ac do an excellent job picking and directing voice actors. Amd writing dialogues.
Look at fromsoft, you can have any opinions you want about gameplay or cliché or reused assets but the deliveries of the voice lines is always god tier.
youtu.be/OVjppv7y_Uc
You can go back to dark souls and demon's souls and it hits the same, when they began to be successful they didn't neglect the voice acting part.
youtu.be/nxtfnIOx0k4

We got tequila gundam 2 though.

they need to make a new mecha game that's only sex and pure hate

Heed this:
Iguazu but female
You can stick another meaning behind "headbringers"

I will check it out, thanks.

People want a Battlefield type game with different classes of grunt robots in 32 vs 32 giant war zone maps

because this is how aces emerge
you want to be the canonnial hero without having any competency of your own
I hate pvp too

Why did mecha games die?

1) They don't know they have an audience
2) They can't do mech game without making it either
- tank simulator with legs and maybe lateral movement
- generic humanoid fighter with sword and gun

generic humanoid fighter with sword and gun

How many games even let you carry swords and guns at the same time, let alone also strap a rocket on your back? I mean I'd be happy if more games had jetpacks in general but this is much improved.

Armored Core 6 was mediocre and you cant change my mind about it

How would you make a mech if not either a tank simulator or reskinned humanoid with a sword or gun? These are basically the only depictions of mechs in media.

This image just pisses me off because it reminds me of how cucked the 40k fandom is. Wanting to actually pilot or play with one of these things is always stopped by the "NOOOO THE LOOOOORE" type of people. Thats how Rogue Trader is in the state it is in with recolors of humans...

captive audience

How do you take captive an audience that never played your games?
Armored Core 6 made essentially 50 times the sales they did with any other AC.

FROM did what shit studio don't do: actually improve your engines and games mechanics instead of selling the same shit with variation
They made Dark Soul into an open-world and it's perfect for its formula.
They made Armored Core 6 with a real sense of inertia, and removed fake-difficulty mechanic that only autist defended, past-tense.

God I wanna FUCK Jehuty, she's so sexy.

Gundam keeps reinventing itself and every time it does it's less about mechs and more about little girls. The death of all other mech media besides gundam which is also shedding its mech focus is not a sign of health. It's gotten so bad that the new gundam is made by the evangelion studio. This is like fighting games being so dead bamco just gives up and asks capcom to make the next Tekken.

for me, it's dolores

How many games even let you carry swords and guns at the same time, let alone also strap a rocket on your back?

If we stretch a bit the definition for mecha, technically Nier Automata.

I don't think "gundam is shedding it's mech focus". If anything this is just "unlike other mecha, this one is about the characters" but phrased negatively.

needle legs
facemask
cropped jacket
feminine cockpit

unf

It makes your enemies horny and they won't attack.

The only reason anyone bought ac6 is souls made them fans of FROM, at this point FROM could shit out a visual novel and it would sell 2 million copies. The issue with all mech games is they have fucking boring settings, including ac6. When I see mech game I just think about procedurally generated non environments

A robot game needs a special control method that isn't just TPS/FPS controls but more like operating a vehicle

kinda sounds like a you problem tbf

The only reason people bought armored core is because from has become a trusted dev people like? That sounds fair. More devs should try that.

ac6

procedurally generated non environments

AC6 has the best environments of this generation.

How would you make a mech if not either a tank simulator or reskinned humanoid with a sword or gun? These are basically the only depictions of mechs in media.

Mainstream media, maybe.
For a start, you can tell tank fag to fuck off by making the legs actually cross obstacles.
We have Inverse Kinematic now, the animation for legs no longer need flat terrain, and you STRAFE.
YES YOU CAN STRAFE WITH LEGS, GET THAT RIGHT YOU LAZY "GAME DESIGNER"!!!!
Needed to get that out,
If you aren't playing huge mecha, or maybe mecha in low gravity you can also climb to wall or your machine is meant to swim in water and can burst out.

You can enter non-humanoid design just by having legs with distinct articulation, or a body that's not like ours, not needing a "head" part if you use redundant sensors. The arms don't need to have frigging hands since you are using mecha-only equipment.

And the gameplay can do more than walk and shot things.
With limited jetpack and inertia you can make a good exploration game. With even a transport & balance system like Death Stranding.
Mech games have huge customization potential.

wouldnt it hurt to fuck a mech

Please, we know you are just a FROM hater.

The issue with all mech games is they have fucking boring settings

Go ahead and impress us, what setting do you think would save mecha?

Hello fellow mechfuckers, does Glados count?

Mechs are not only becoming incidental, they are staring to interfere with the main draw, the success of witch from mars was because it became a school anime with little lesbians. Once the draw has nothing to do with mechs or any kind of mech fantasy the realisation strikes and you just stop including them. The only reason gundam still gets new series is to sell plastic toys. Without that incentive witch from mars would have been a romance anime about rich kids in school and the nonsensical end part where they fight over a dead sister trapped in a robot wouldn't have needed to happen.

It should have lots of maintenance points

Mecha are weapons platforms with universal artillery, tank durability and fighter jet speeds. Depending on which one of these traits are prioritized determines where on the real robot/super robot genre scale your mecha falls in.
Most people want real robots but with playable ace units exceeding the average sluggish grunts but not quite reaching super robot abilities.

When people demand "mecha" games they usually don't mean reskinned previous genres but with giant robot models. So one can argue that fighting games like Gundam Battle Assault, Musou games like Dynasty Warriors Gundam, FPS games like Titanfall, RTS games like Supreme Commander etc. don't really scratch that mecha piloting itch we all have.

Mecha games need to have unorthodox control schemes that capture the feel of "piloting" a giant machine. We all know how fighter jets behave so we're all on board with arcade and sim games like Ace Combat or DCS. But a mecha is an imaginary machine so the opinion varies. It needs a control scheme that is clunky at first but once you master it, you can feel like an ace pilot controlling a complicated machine. It's the immersion aspect. Managed clunkiness which is an insanely hard mechanical depth to comprehend and to code from the game's development angle.

Very few games achieved this but Armored Core 4 and Another Century's Episode 3 are the peak of the "genre" for me and for what I want from a mecha game "genre" mechanics. Which is why Armored Core 6 casualization into a Gundam EXVS arcade-type of a mecha game was so tragic to me.

Not really a high bar compared to how little the previous games did. The game sold on brand name alone.

Posts an empty area with nothing in it

Sure, nice environment ya got there

The only reason gundam still gets new series is to sell plastic toys

Which is based and guarantees it will forever be mecha focused, and you're doomposting over an abject impossibility.

unless it plays like one of the first three games I dont want it. marz was bad.

I didn't say it outsold AC games, it outsold all mecha. It got ten times the numbers every mechwarrior game on steam did. It did crazy good.

sold on brand name alone

All products sell largely on brand name and reputation. It's an oddity when something comes out of nowhere and blows up suddenly. That's not a problem, it just means people trust the creators.

And it's the best of this generation. From does it again!

Most of that is just weird minutiae that has nothing to do with anything. If the mech has more than 2 legs or has hands or not doesn't change the fact that you're still going to be controlling a tank with a weird shape or some dude with a jetpack and a sword or gun. Yeah the game will change if you remove combat and make it more about traversal and exploration but at some point you realise piloting a car or a plane is just more fun than a vehicle with legs.

How would you make a mech if not either a tank simulator or reskinned humanoid with a sword or gun?

I would make a Patlabor simulator and I would deny Otha from having any ranged weapon, nor bladed weapons.

It's kind of inarguable that Bloodborne and their various souls games have more interesting environments to explore than any mech game.

Mechas never appealed to me.

I get why people like it but to me, some scrawny faggot in a suped up mech is just a weak hero to root for. The designs are cool, I remember gundam cartoons on Toonami but even as a kid, just seeing other scrawny faggot school kids ruined the allure to me.

Hard for me to see a hero in some kid I could beat up (never lost a high school fight, would bash kids skull in for saying the wrong thing to me)

I feel like 5 did it better than 4.

I don't particularly like gundam so the mech genre is pretty much already dead to me.

piloting a car or a plane is just more fun than a vehicle with legs

That's why you can just give mechs alternate mobility options and now you can switch to car controls mode.

Ryoma nagare could tell you to paint his fence while he drank a mojito and watched and you'd do it.

This is a modern day mecha pilot.

I thought about this in the past too but it just seems kind of goofy, reminds me of that ride back anime which was just motorbikes but with weird arms attached and nobody gave a shit about it. If you're going to make it about driving or flying I'd rather just be in a sci-fi jet or future car than this weird humanoid with wings or wheels. I think the issue is it moves away from the core fantasy of mechs and starts moving into other genres of vehicle operation where it starts to feel awkward in comparison to the actual thing

asian name

That 5ft3 ayy isn't doing shit to me chang

(never lost a high school fight, would bash kids skull in for saying the wrong thing to me)

Rideback is great though. The appeal of mecha is that you can take a humans style of movement and change parts. This is why jetpacks are such a classic mecha addition. Hoverlegs or tank treads or transformation, there's a great appeal in the way mechs can move compared to other vehicles. It's pointless to just stop it at big stompy.

Light weight looking mechas are Japanese

Heavy looking mechas are western

Where does the Jesta Cannon fall on the spectrum then???

Ohta

Mecha appeals to almost exclusively guys.
Games have been trying, in vain, to capture girls.

You're describing what I've always been asking for in a mech game but I've never played any game that has even approached this kind of attitude to the genre. The attitude I have always wanted existed with space sims where they are completely fictional machines but they are an offshoot of the flight sim genre and so we're made with a lot of mechanical depth. Mech games that kind of move in this direction are just very slow walking tank sims which is somehow less engaging than the source it's supposed to be embellishing.

Why do you post like you've been molested?

Rideback is conceptually interesting but it's also not that appealing because it's a weird in-between fantasy that isn't satisfying anyone. People who are into cars or bikes and racing would rather just see people drive a car with breaking points and driving lines, if they want sci-fi racing then they would rather something like redline. People who want mechs are looking for something much more involved than a bike with legs.

Rollerblade mechs are cool and I'd rather pilot that than a walking mech but if you aren't dealing with combat I don't get what the arms and legs are even for, maybe you can have some kind of elaborate mirrors edge style parkour combined with a racing game, it could be interesting but I'm guessing there's basically no audience for it.

If this was Armored Core this cutscene wouldn't exist and nor would the human faces, voices would talk to each other while you're actually fighting
There's a reason Armored Core is the most beloved mecha franchise

play virtual-on with twinstick
(i am not playing with twinstick because i am a gaijin gorilla and broke mine trying to beat japs)

Your standards are so disingenuous you make your car/plane inferior to any mecha doing the same and more with transformation mechanic.
Do you believe shitting on mechs will make look like the smart one?
You just have no imagination and games would stagnate if we listened to you.

Too high IQ
Too legitimately cool
Aimed at men

Because they use the limbs for balance. Rideback probably has some of the best physical movement in mecha animation, there's some serious thought put into how a motorcycle than can more easily control is center of balance can move. Like many good designs, it makes more sense in motion.

Besides, the story and characters are really good anyway. It strikes a good appeal with that and it all ties together in a way that's more unique than the usual "what if a war was fought with big robots".

It's also kind of retarded to compare directly pure fantasy with technological setting. And even dumber to think your tastes are absolute.
I love AC6 industrial gigantism.

Hey Artdink...
Still alive?

any of the characters from G-Gundam would literally evaporate you

there is Mecha Knights: Nightmare on steam. it's an indie mecha game styled after EDF

I should probably watch it because I've been thinking about how to combine mechs with racing games for actual years and just gave up and came to the conclusion that it just wasn't that appealing.

rideback

You are a man of culture.
Granted, the anime didn't really do it justice and robot-bike are still out of our reach technologically.
But you could do a mecha racing game where the objective is to cross the craziest shit.
Only problem is that if you can't make NPC for it, it won't be playable

Need another Votoms game.

Sci-fi and fantasy are interchangable, there's nothing about piloting a mech that necessitates boring industrial landscapes that look procedurally generated.

Yeah, instead they do it because it's really cool and great.

You need to speak English if you want to post on an English forum.

mecha racing game

Don't expect too much of the anime, it aged badly and the plot turn into politics.
You have governmental force pursuing the heroic in rideback because while saving a friend she humiliated the police
You have anti-governmental force fighting with military ride-back against the evil government who are also making unmanned rideback drone

she's not really a mecha more of a sentient mainframe, like shodan or durandal.

Dolls Nest just came out but it's Mecha Musume and by a visual novel studio
It's not perfect but it scratched the itch slightly

Sci-fi and fantasy are interchangable

Then I guess you wouldn't distinguish good game and bad game either.

Why would something like that kill the mystique?

I've wanted to compare the manga to it for ages but it hadn't been translated past the first few chapters. For seven years? Dang.

I can fix her

Still waiting for the shitter to tell what landscape he would do for a mecha game

I have to finish super robot wars. Pic not related

I didn't say it outsold AC games, it outsold all mecha

Are you retarded or something? AC games were already the highest selling mecha games before AC6 besides maaaybe mech warrior 5/Online. A massive chunk of AC6 sales were legit from zoomers that thought it would be Elden Ring with lazers. Keep up, anon.

Only trannies care about the twink pilots and their fag nigger drama. The best mecha games have you play as either a faceless pilot, or you're just a robot. End of discussion.

what landscape he would do for a mecha game

Lately I've heard of the archigram plug-in city
Imagine a city built so instead of moving into an apartment, you move the apartment itself.
Add mech with jetpack mechanic and the ability to latch on structure and you've got a 3D environment with gigantic mobile platform

Look pretty cool... damn I miss the ps2 era where you would buy a game depending of how cool was the cover. Anyway I'm going to try it later

LMAO this looks like that one meme webm of the jrpg character doing this crazy minute-long orbital move only for it to miss. Funny the weird shit people pass their lives with.

?

that thought it would be Elden Ring with lazers

And they liked it anyway. It got really good player reviews. New fans always have reasons to try something out.

AC games were already the highest selling mecha games

I dunno, stuff like titanfall may have had them beat, even with them pitting it up against other releases they couldn't compete with.

(never lost a high school fight, would bash kids skull in for saying the wrong thing to me)

Lol, it's nice to see how some posts never change

A T-Rex because dinosaurs are cool. He shoot lasers from his mouth too

I'll take the rotating space colony myself.
Always wanted a gundam-like game with the realistic physics so if you reach the center of the colony you are essentially floating, and you can have multiple of those colonies linked together so you could go from a forest colony to a cyberpunk city to a desert to a snowy one and so on

The true ending for AC6 is really good for the future of the franchise
Now the entire galaxy is filled with sentient gasoline waifu who can also fight by your side

Were they ever huge to begin with?
Excluding the Armored Core series and Gundam games, I can count the amount of good mecha games I know of on two hands

Digestion

Emotional Acceleration

Tranquility

Great System

Merriment

That's quite a t-shirt

I dont know what you mean, i have a really good time with the two mw5 games, battletech and the ttg

Escaflowne is fucking dope

As much as they are referred to pilots mecha treats them like infantry by having them be in giant battles piloted by faceless soldiers who get slaughtered in
battle like world war infantry.

Its weird because mecha shares the same military spirit as tank fags, despite borrowing from Air Force and Navy. Both Tank and Mechafags spend hundreds of dollars and hours meticulously building and painting kits, both treat their fights trading blows and showcasing firepower and getting up close n personal. Much more in common with each other than the spirit of evasive maneuvering high speed low drag hit n run dogfighting that planes showcase.

In a genre that's all about fighting other people in their robots. Idk how you cant expect PvP... but even so there's a lot of bro-op potential. From Horde Mode or Helldivers like gameplay to Lost Planet.

Either way for a military genre it really doesn't like to make its games military based. Its what? Gacha? Turn Based? Arena Fighting?

A Binary Domain like game but with Mecha would be Hella based

Not him

But trench warfare in space. So much space debris in no man's land both sides are hunkered down in floating command posts/trenches that is bombarded constantly by the giant naval guns of the ships. The fun part would be the trenches would be vertical as much as horizontal.
Does it make sense? Absolutely not but you can write your way out of that in a setting like most sci fi

I like both
I don't understand why this rivalry is a thing

They made Deracine and it sold like shit

Depends on what you call mecha, does turn-based game count?
Mecha have been in plenty of games, but usually when we talk of mecha we only mean the one where you don't just pilot one but also feels different from playing any character with a gun

store.steampowered.com/app/1192900/IRON_REBELLION/

I guess when I say something is a mecha game, I personally mean the gameplay is simulating a mecha.
So Zone of Enders, Armored Core, Mech Warrior and so on.
To me Front Mission is a turn based combat game with a mecha theme.

Fuck you for reminding me we don't have Escaflowne like mecha game.

We have tons of potential since everything would be openworld now. You could actually get off your mecha to visit cities in person, then fight in with the mecha

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Game had a neat premise but the gameplay sucked ass

wiggling back and forth to stay in the right range band

micromanaging soldiers forward and back every 15 seconds to use their abilities and retreat before the enemy oneshot them

long cutscenes every time you or the enemy do anything stalling the combat and reload clock

having to repeat it all 2-3 times to kill a single unit on a map that might have a dozen

On that note, can ZOE2 be played without playing the first or is the first game worth emulating?

turn based combat game with a mecha theme

You remind me I need to try Into the Breach someday
store.steampowered.com/app/590380/Into_the_Breach/

It look a bit simplistic so I don't know how much replayability it has

They recap all the relevant stuff from 1 in 2 so it isn't necessary but 1 is still pretty good and it isn't that long so I think it's worth playing it first anyway

Into The Breach is NOT a turn based combat game. It's a puzzle game with a mecha theme. There's no customisation elements at all

Also watch the anime it's super underrated

It's pretty much entirely terminally embarrassed westfags continuously insisting that they only like REAL HARDCORE SERIOUS GRITTY MECHS out of pure insecurity, and probably an anti-anime bend. There's no actual separation like that outside of their insistence.

For me, Phantom Brigade

Fantastic turn system that makes you feel like a tactical genius

Solid customization base with granular figures to play with

A long-haul campaign with overworld strategy elements

Completely let down by

No narrative, at all, it's just 'bad guys invaded, defeat bad guys'

No characters, at all, everybody is faceless, voiceless, sterile

Deceptively shallow range of mech parts and weapons

Samey maps and samey objectives

iirc the first ZOE game got a little criticism for it's child protagonist, so ZOE2 is kind of a reboot with a new protagonist. They recap the important stuff, and the mc from the first game shows up as a side character, but other than that it's basically stand alone.

This game had the best mech designs.
They had energy veins and an organic look.

But won't all the woken Coralians force the limit of questions?

Isn't she supposed to be a giant weaponized mech?
Also is it some weeb kawaii uguu shit or is it an actual show with a plot? From the pictures I see online it looks like the former.
How does it compare to Idolo?

Dude ive been playing the shit out of dolls nest. mecha games are back

you are a soft faggot and you are not prepared for the unbelievable kino
idolo was just slop compared to this
dolores will bring even the hardest Anon Babblean to tears
just fucking watch it instead of being a zoomer nigger and getting your opinions from youtube

So it is kawaii uguu weebshit?
Thanks for the answer and saving my time, Anon.

Dolores' AI is that of a polite young woman but ultimately the show is about a broken family. Your main protagonist is a grumpy middle-aged alcoholic space trucker who's trying to reconnect with his estranged adult kids after his wife/their mom died. Dolores being who/what she is has plot relevance and some of the comedy comes from her being essentially a teenage girl in the body of a giant war machine, but it never actually devolves into "kawaii uguu shit."

your loss, you seem too young and gay to get it anyway.
if you love your dad or think you'd make a good one you'll watch it
it's a lovely story about a space trucker trying to patch up his fractured family and he learns how to be a good dad again thru dolores
that scene is in her imagination

we should not waste our time explaining this absolute cinema to a minecraft movie kid

Prepare to be mindfuck: "dolores, I" is the sequel to "Idolo".
It's not that it is less serious than Idolo.
It's more that it add very light-hearted "old man try to be a good father" while dealing with a plot that's worth a dystopian SF.
This webm is from that series.
ZoE setting would be good for crazy good stories. The FTL cannon and the space elevator get good use.

The bulk of her backstory is in Idolo.
She really wasn't always like that, the military really broke her.

no shit,
mech games were only cool in the 90's because of power rangers

They come and go

To be fair, when you look at random pic of Dolores.I you can honestly wonder if they just went crazy with the plot.

to me, it's mecha if you can configure your various parts, legs, torso, arms, etc, turn based or not.
For example, in a theoretical iron man game where you fully customized your iron man armor with leg parts, arm parts, shoulder weapons, arm weapons etc, I would count it as a mecha game.

That would mean ZOE, gundam, macross, even mechassault, etc aren't mecha games.

Based

They are games with mecha but they're not mecha games. To me anyway.
Okay my opinion is dumb, I accept it, but a game doesn't feel like a mecha game to me if I just pick a complete robot and there's no customization, it's just another game.

That would mean that mecha games as a genre is like just a handful of specific series, almost none of which are actual licensed adaptions of mecha franchises.

Gundam encounters in space wouldn't be a mecha game, but gundam breakers would be. The one where where you control toys.

Gundam encounters in space wouldn't be a mecha game, but gundam breakers would be

Ok I admit I might need a different genre name to refer to those full customization of machine games.
Things like dolls nest clearly aren't mecha but they have the parts system.

Gundam encounters in space wouldn't be a mecha game

But it would though? Encounters in Space and Never Ending Tomorrow are unironically some of the most "mecha genre" Gundam games out there. They're jank and some might say "kusoge" but they emulate the sense of piloting far better than stuff like Gundam Evolution.

No, I love encounters in space. I just have a distaste for when people say "it's not really a mecha game if it doesn't have X" and X is something that disqualifies most mecha so I'm putting it as an example. See also "they can't be too humanoid" or "it can't be an fps/tps".

the comedy comes from her being essentially a teenage girl in the body of a giant war machine

I never understood why japs are so obsessed with this trope of shoving teenagers/schoolgirls in war machines. I guess it's fine if you're watching it as a teenager yourself, but something irks me about watching those types of shows as a fully grown adult.

Your webm on the other hand is exactly what makes me want to watch it. I hope there's still a somewhat serious plot with actual Earth/Mars arms race/politics, Idolo did a decent job at depicting that.

ZoE setting would be good for crazy good stories. The FTL cannon and the space elevator get good use.

ZoE is (was) the type of franchise/series where Ace Combat-tier batshit insane bullshit would not only be fitting, but also considered the norm, and that's kind of the beauty of it in my opinion.
I mean, just look at fucking Zakat, for instance.

Recognizing the irrationality of your criteria already make you smarter than most.

I might need a different genre name

To not ruin my only neuron: "sci-fi combat customization"

futuristic thing that isn't real yet is old fashioned

Stupid little gooknigger.

I guess it's fine if you're watching it as a teenager yourself

90% of people complaints about anime are because they're watching shows aimed at teenagers and complaining about it. People will really watch shonen and complain that "it's like some saturday morning cartoon!".

There's plenty that do it well regardless though.

It's garage sim.

Yeah my bad I didn't read the full reply chain.

Maybe Okawara makes ZOE3 someday

Why did they give the mechs big penises?

both acronym are AC

It's cockpit

never lost a high school fight, would bash kids skull in for saying the wrong thing to me)

trope of shoving teenagers/schoolgirls in war machines

Dolores is an AI.

Your webm on the other hand is exactly what makes me want to watch it. I hope there's still a somewhat serious plot with actual Earth/Mars arms race/politics, Idolo did a decent job at depicting that.

I don't want to oversell it to you. So don't expect that webm to be regular combat.
And DO expect a seriously more light-hearted series. There's an anti-martian racist who is not especially... nuanced. Ok he is just over-the-top crazy. The surprise is that it still has so both serious undertone and above average SF tech setting with lot of details

I've chosen a part for you that can't really spoil you.
Consider the girl a child-soldier, seriously trained for combat, and fitting for the ongoing family theme.
youtu.be/MAosZAOq-N8?t=264

It's garage sim.

Let's not be insulting, pretty sure anon still expect to fight battle using his vehicle

It's not meant to be insulting, it's just an accurate term you can use for pretty much anything where you spend half the game sitting in a garage menu tinkering with parts.

god I love big robots

There's actual "garage simulator"
That's pretty difference from tinkering with your Armored Core parts and paint.

That's more of a modern meme game thing. You can still also describe those as garage sims, they just shouldn't totally eat up a perfectly good older term.

Homeworld has always sucked.

I'm rather old and never heard "garage sim" for anything else but those actual garage simulator.
Like "Mechwarrior 3 sold with a sidewinder joystick" old.
The term is just misleading for anything else, so let's just focus on what anon like: customization option.

Homeworld has always sucked.

You deserved to be on the surface of Kharak

You mean the equivalent of burning down the starter JRPG village?
Only idiots think that scene is good.

you know pretending to be retarded is not different than just being retarded right?

I'm being 100% genuine. There's nothing to care about with Kharak's destruction.

Westerners hate it. The only reason AC6 got popular was because newfags only knew FROM did Souls games and bought it because From made it now because they like mechs.

So you're just an autist, got it.

Dumb ass looking robot. I swear, all these giant robot and mecha “fans” have no appreciation for detail. Absolute slop post.

no u

No. I find it baffling that people can care about some place they know nothing about. The death toll could have been anywhere from 100 to 100 trillion and it'd be the same impact because it's just a number. There's nothing to actually care about.

I find it baffling that people can care about some place they know nothing about

Yeah, that's autism, inability to feel anything unless you have personal stakes.

It's the only current thing that hasn't fucked itself to death with bad decisions

LMFAO

zanzibot...

While we've been having this conversation over 100 REAL people around the world have died.
You felt nothing. You have autism.

That ain’t a no u, that’s a canonical piece of trash. Only fucking piece of the mech genre I fully enjoyed was Brigador. Battletech did a lot of things right, but too many things wrong as well.

lol
the worst part is, you genuinely can't and will never be able to understand the difference because of your broken brain.

A few more dozen people died in the time it took for you to reply. Aren't you mourning them? Don't you feel sad?
The answer is obviously no and you're lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

Yes yes you are the "though guy" above petty things such as caring or imagination. So incredible! Have another pity (you)

This.

random village that you don't know about gets destroyed

Who cares.

random village except you spent 10 hours in it gets destroyed

I care.

Revoltech made figures of 3 types of Jehuty, Vic Viper, Anubis and Ardjet

no Inhert or Nephtis

Fucking dumb

you're just repeating yourself at this point. We get it, you have a defective brain, more replies won't change this.

do you also dig them?

stripper mech with heavy 'uwu crush me mommy' giantess fetish shit

Fucking get lost, i love fst tits and woman but my mechs need to be ugly giant war maschines and not something i want to fuck.

Doesn't want to fuck his giant ugly war machine

You're gay.

People keep saying this but whenever a mecha show comes out it's usually pretty popular. Sure some shows flop but every genre has flops. We get nonstop battle shonen shit even though there's been a ton of flops on that end of things. It seems like if a mecha show comes out and doesn't do Eva numbers the industry declares it a dead genre.

You high or something? I’m not talking about any goddamn stripper mechs. And the ugly war machines are the exact reason why I enjoy Brigador. They even mixed in crackhead engineering as well.

bully not so tough after being molested

jej

You could unironically get an autism diagnosis off your string of posts.

This game definitely wasn't worth paying full price in release day like I did, but I still had a blast with it and regret nothing. If you can get it dirt cheap on sale, I recommend it. It's like a less serious version of Earth Defense Force (which is an amazing feat to pull off desu) but you pilot a giant robot and you can customize it from the ground up piece by piece. Sadly the other anon is right, none of the customization really matters much, it's all just rule of cool basically. The one thing he's wrong about is larger mechs, they're very worthwhile if you use them correctly since you can just load them up with the biggest fuckoff weapons and obliterate everything in front of you with ease. You can eject and swap mechs at any time, so there's no reason not to pack a large and medium mech in your loadout to compliment your small mechs. Also the coop was fun the few times I was able to find anyone to matchmake with.

Agreed entirely. If there were better presentation it would be a 10/10 game. Just imagine the XCOM mission loading screen with all your dudes in the dropship. Imagine if Phantom Brigade had loading scenes like that with all your pilots suiting up and deploying in their mechs. Just little stuff like that would have made it so much cooler.

I mean an archer or hunchy is pretty sexy but...

This Anon not only knows, but also has impeccable taste

I'd totally fall for that one

I keep dropping this game because of the first 4 difficulty mission where you need to boost across the gaps, I keep failing it and is PISSES ME OFF FUUUCCCKK I HAD MORE "FUN" DOING THE SHITTY PLATFORMING IN AC1

2AA does not have a difficulty curve it's a difficulty mountain range. Still beat every mission when I was a child so git gud.

implying I wouldn't

Oh no its not the combat that gets me, its this one mission where you need to boost from mountain range to mountain range. I don't know why but I'm inconsistent with it and every time I fail it and have to restart the mission I get incredibly angry

AA is going to bend you over and fuck you in the ass with no lube if you don't adjust your builds for the missions given to you. Try an RJ build with low energy consumption parts a different genny and boosters with low consumption and decent power

I see, I was able to beat, all of gen 1 and 2 with mostly the same build throughout the games (mostly heavyweight quads, changed to lightweight quads depending on the arena fight) so I guess now I need to actually start making mechs for each fight
Good to know! I'm still a newfag to the series (6 baby) but I'll 100% try that out, thank you!

6 bab going through the old games

Based, Ninebreaker can be skipped since it's mostly just training missions. The Formula Front games are also fun but can also be skipped as they aren't related to the main games. Good luck with AA and the special post game mission (Building properly will happen again in 3 and Silent line with a train mission)

kids are fags these days

No shit

I liked the Avatar battles in .hack//g.u.
Will I like zone of the enders?

What's the purpose of having a fem mech with a giant COCKpit?

It's cool and hot

tfw his COCKpit is smaller than yours

MASS Builder is fine. I got it because I was starving for Armored Core way before AC6 was release. I like the customization and the simple brain dead combat, but I can do without the VN characters design that pop up randomly in the story dump. Sadly, everytime I find that a bit annoying, I reminded myself at least it not "westernized" full of tumblr tier ugly shit characters that is a color of a shade of shit, which is something most western indie love to do.