This is an annoying situation on multiple levels because the timing of the retarded tariffs gives people an excuse...

This is an annoying situation on multiple levels because the timing of the retarded tariffs gives people an excuse to say "It's not Nintendo's fault, it's because of that" but I honestly think the success of the Switch has made Nintendo cocky enough that they would have gone with this price point anyway. And then to add insult to injury is the brazen attempt to kill physical games, you can tell it really pisses them off that people are still buying physical over digital so they just straight up make physical cost more to try and force people to go digital, eventually leading to an excuse to not make physical copies at all.

The one sign of hope I see is that Nintendo has gone through this same cycle twice before. They got overconfident due to the Wii's success, the Wii U bombed. Similar with the DS to 3DS, although they did a panic price drop real quickly on that and it ended up being successful. It seems like Nintendo never actually learns, they always think they're invincible and need to be taught the same lesson over and over again. Let's hope that's what happens here.

MUH TARIFFS

Buying an N64 in the 90s was the equivalent of spending about the same as a Switch 2 today when adjusted for inflation. That shit was almost $200 when it released. Games were absurdly expensive and you'd remember that if you weren’t a zoom zoom.

drop the price

So prices SHOULD stay static forever?

no, not like that! nitnendo are my fwiends!!!

And to quickly add to this, wages not matching inflation rising is not the fault of tariffs.

Video games are a want, not a need. They’re a luxury item. If you had a minimum wage job and were smart with your money you could easily afford a Switch 2.

the tariffs omg the tariffs

yeah it's annoying, the $450 price tag for the console is the only justifiable thing about it, it's the digital non-tariff'd games that are too expensive

but I honestly think the success of the Switch has made Nintendo cocky enough that they would have gone with this price point anyway

No shit. These prices were almost certainly planned for years. They made it obvious where they were going when they priced ToTK at $70. All the screaming about tariffs on here yesterday was just a very obvious attempt to change the narrative and shift the blame away from Nintendo.

The N64 was also a crushing failure that Nintendo has never fully recovered from. Even when they're successful nowadays, they still aren't the default platform of choice like they were pre-N64, that's how much damage that generation did to them. If that's your argument *in favor* of what they're doing with the Switch 2, you need to go back to the drawing board.

How quickly you fell, from crying about egg prices to saying "actually high prices are good now!!"

? I don't remember the N64 doing badly at all. The Gamecube was where Nintendo started to sink. Then it seems like they go between success and failure every other gen.

Gamecube

Failure

Wii

Success

Wii U

Failure

Switch

Success

Switch 2

???

I’m a normal, grown adult with a fine amount of money who’s happy with what Trump is doing what he is. If anything I can sell some old gamecube shit and older games for the 2 and pay the rest just fine and enjoy it

You're a retard who will have another cope loaded in the chamber no matter what is said to you. There is no point talking to you, only laughing at you or ignoring you. Vicious mockery is the only thing that will get through your thick skull.

Are you some spic who’s seething that he’s deporting people? The tariffs have barely effected a thing irl

I don't remember the N64 doing badly at all.

It collapsed to a distant second place worldwide and third place in Japan. It also had an anemic library of games as most third-parties decided they'd rather give Sony a chance than continue to put up with Nintendo's sky-high licensing and manufacturing fees.
The GameCube was doomed on arrival because of how poorly the N64 did.

hides stock tickers

"Nothing to see here! It's not effecting anything! I can't spell affecting because I'm a retard!"

Caring about stocks as a grown adult

You may as well be crying about crypto faggot

$79 for physical

Tighten your fucking belt. Sit on the sidelines while people with money play the games.

Games staying at $60 as long as they have is the more surprising thing, really.

Especially when gacha games come out with people casually spending multiples of that amount for a long time.

You are so fucking stupid it's not even funny. Well, it will be funny to watch you continue coping for the next couple years, but I'll have plenty of opportunities to enjoy that. I hope you're looking forward to fighting for your life in threads about this every week, 'cause it's not gonna get any better for you.

I barely post on Anon Babble, I’m out living life. He won, and you’ll cope.

Yeah, people will spend $1000 for a single character in Genshin Impact and justify it with "But the game is free!" If anything $90 is only the start and it's gonna go even higher from here.

Cope all you want with the short posts. That way everyone can tell you know you're getting thrashed and trying to press the eject button on the conversation.

Electronics are now cheaper than they've ever been
Since you're supposedly not a zoomer you remember when buying a TV was a major investment costing thousands I'm some cases
Now you get TV quality people 30 years ago couldn't even dream of for under $100

Howdy, Hau D.

And the N64 ate the dust of the PS1 for that

What's going to happen is the "people with money" are going to spend way too much on an overpriced console but there won't be enough of them and Nintendo will be forced to lower the price. Early adopters get fucked as usual. I'm old enough to remember back when those thousand dollar TVs were new they were insistent the prices would never drop. That didn't last long.

You sound like an ESL retard, look out for ICE Paco

This, every time someone acts as if the N64 was a worthy contender of that gen they just expose that either they didn't live through the era or were rich kids, because everyone had a PS1, which was way more affordable. If you had a N64 you were automatically seen as a rich kid

Wow, I thought you had to be exaggerating but I just looked it up and N64 only had 388 games in total compared to PS1's over 4000. I guess N64 was a lot like Dreamcast, not that many games but you remember a lot of them because the good ones were really good. Though apparently even Dreamcast had more games than N64.

What is it with you retards and this argument? Games were expensive back then because carts had expensive hardware in them. Once systems moved onto optical media games dropped back in price.

In 2006 they had a 80 inch 4k TV in the Sony store for $30,000. That's $500 today
I remember looking at it the same day as the tesla roadster in the mall "Heh, electric car, so weird"

The vast majority of gachaniggers either spend nothing or only buy the equivalent of the monthly/battle pass. The idiot whales spending thousands maxing out a single character are the minority.

Do you think that might be why Nintendo is trying to get away with this price, because they're still using cartridges? It doesn't justify the digital price being so high, but that could be the excuse they're using to bamboozle people.

If it's not Trump's fault it soon will be for tanking the global economy.

Some

Only MK

Only in the UK

Correct anon, when the 2600 was $189 in 1977, it was nearly 600 in 2006 because of the heckin inflatiorino! And that's why Snoy was justified in releasing pic related for that price, and everyone totally bought it! So quit being heckin entitled!

It will rebound.
But not because of him. Because of others, and in spite of him. And not until after he's gone.

It's definitely not going to rebound after him as we'll end up with a democrat president next. And I suspect the plan is for it to never rebound.

Hmm. I will never understand this sentiment. I could buy a Switch 2 for both me and as a gift. I could buy Mayro Kart and a bunch of "enhancement pack" games. Will I? No. The regular OLED Switch I have works fine still and the new thing has high specs that are meaningless to me. I would say that being smart with my money is not buying something that I perceive as overpriced for what it provides regardless of how much it would impact me financially. If I just bought everything overpriced because it wouldn't put me over budget, I would be a fool. A poor fool.

What are you doing to justify the cost? Why did you hire 500 people to work on a single game? Why did you spend 50 million dollars on expensive mo cap and cinematic CGI cutscenes and realistic graphics? How does any of that improve the game?

EXCEPT THE COST OF LIVING WAS BETTER BACK THEN

I bought the 3DS day 1 and even though they did try to make it right with the ambassador program, it was not worth the $70 price drop. Hopefully if they do this with switch 2, they will make it right somehow.

being smart with my money is not buying something that I perceive as overpriced

Based and true.
Everyone screaming ‘poorfag’ needs to take a long hard look at their spending habits regardless of how much money they have.

Shalom.

The ambassador system was almost comically stupid.

Here's 10 GBA games you can only get if you were dumb enough to buy the 3DS on release. We expect this gift to be enough to make up for your blunder and so we will never allow anyone else to obtain them. Also, despite this proving that 3DS has the capacity to play GBA games, we will not sell any other GBA games on for the 3DS Virtual Console. These are the only ones ever.

The only positive is it made GBA piracy extremely easy on 3DS via VC injects. Finally played Sigma Star Saga for the first time on my 3DS as a result. Now THAT was a game.

Pretty much. My games run fine, the system works, and I'm not treating it roughly. I certainly did not buy the Switch itself on launch and don't regret it, because they later released an upgraded version (the OLED) I got at a time when I had a gift card I needed to use anyway. And for the games on it, some of them released incomplete initially but it was not a problem because I did not buy on release. At the moment I don't anticipate anything I want being S2 exclusive.
And I still have a backlog of 3DS games I have not finished.

In my case I didn't buy the Switch on launch either but I did still buy the original model because by the time I bought it they were already selling it for a lower price. I don't regret buying the cheaper model because the OLED was not enough of an improvement to justify the increased price and, as said, the original model still functions quite well. That's what I think will happen with the S2, it will soon become possible to buy the original model for a pittance because they are going to want to sell a new one.

Thankfully Nintendo's insanity will not stop cool indie games from being made and selling well because even if the graphics aren't "next gen" people are much more willing to buy a game that costs under $30. Games don't need to spend that much money to be good, and as a result they also don't need to make as much money to still succeed.

Eh. The only reason I even bought the 3DS is because my DS lite was basically dead. and pokemon BW1 was coming out a month later. And it was a DS game, not a 3DS game. Plus I knew it would eventually be getting some stuff.

Industries can't be entirely maintained on middle class paypigs.
Across the board, the average worker is being priced out. You tell us to be more responsible with our money, so maybe one day we can be where you are. But when people stop buying things, guess what happens? Industries collapse and the same boomers who tell people to "stop wasting money" cry and shit themselves and write a thousand articles about how zoomers are the devil for not giving a toss about pubs or malls.
Gen alpha already doesn't give that much shit about gaming and their economic prospects are shaping up to be even worse. It's going to be so fucking funny when the gaming industry collapses and you lose your marbles because there's no more $90 slop left to consume.

doesn't matter because this thing is gonna flop
no parent is going to buy a switch 2 for their mixed raced fattendie goblin mutt child, especially in this economy

I think every company gets this cocky every once in a while and has to get humbled by their console flopping. Remember when the PS3 cost $599? What the fuck was that?

Probably, along with some special editions that only really change the dock.
I got the OLED because if I didn't then money would be left on the gift card, which was close to expiry. To be honest I don't really know the difference in the same way I was not discerning about IPS vs TN screens on the 3DS but the better default memory card was nice and the back stand is also good (no idea why they gave the S2 a hollow stand), though not worth upgrading if you have an original.
I will probably wait a few years on S2 if I try it.

It started with the Snes, that didn't have the sales or dominance of the Nes.

Nintendo 64 was a success. Console wars don't determine success, profits do. The Nintendo 64 still made a profit for Nintendo, just less than the PS1.

Why is everybody replying to so many posts at once?

N64 was closer to PS1 sales in the US during it's lifetime and PS1 only gained a significant lead in sales when it was budget console when PS2 released in US.

Asbolutely no one cares, asbolutely no one asked, so shut up already, bootlicker.

toddlers are suddenly conservastive when its about bootlicking nintendo

ideo games are a want, not a need.

But so is your desire to live, it is absolutely a want, but not a need.

Literally who asked you and why should anybody care about your soughts and feelings?

soughts and feelings lmao

but I'll have plenty of opportunities to enjoy that.

Anon Babble is not your personal blog.

they changed development to Vietnam to avoid tariffs before he announced one for them too. it's 100% Trump's fault. keep coping

Why the fuck are they making Switch 2 in Vietnam, isn't that like a jungle or something

that's brazil

He announced them after the switch direct. No one had any idea Vietnam would be getting hit. TDS is a hell of a disease. I hope it kills you before the 4 years are up.

Didn't kill any of us the first time, don't know why you think it would be any different now. If anything it only makes us come back stronger.

Seethe for the next four years and die mad. Night.

Best part is, you've got NOBODY ready when his time is up. Don't expect to be able to recreate this miracle any time soon.

And it was a bargain. The Gaystation was $299, and the Saturn was $399.

in the US

The US doesn't matter. PSX (yes, we called it PSX, not PS"1". ) and even the Saturn raped the fuck out of the N64 in every other market.

Even Sony called it the PS1 when they rereleased it. Calling it PSX is silly, like someone who still calls the Gamecube "Dolphin" or the Wii "Revolution."

Why is it always inflation? Why can't it ever be deflation where prices go down

That's why Nintendo is doing it. They know they can just use the situation as a scapegoat to go full jew even when they're slapping it on everyone, not just the US.

We did have a period of deflation. You can read about it here.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression

Go to the hospital, you're not well.

Most of Nintendo's consoles didn't do well in the middle gens, they were saved by their handhelds. Their failures are pretty impactful because Nintendo invested heavily in things like the Virtual Boy, 64, and GC
Goes like this

Color TV-Game (JP only)

Success

Game & Watch

Hyper success

NES

Hyper success

Game Boy

Hyper success

SNES

Success but not as good as NES in EU and NA because of SEGA

Virtual Boy

Failure

64

Failure in JP and EU, only sold well in NA
Sony won this gen overall with PS1

Game Boy Color

Success

Gamecube

Failure

Game Boy Advance

Success

DS

Hyper success

Wii

Hyper success

3DS

Hyper success

Wii U

Failure

Switch

Hyper success

Hold up. How was Game & Watch a success when you had to buy an entire system every time you wanted a new game? Did that not piss people off?

It was 1980
Game consoles had not taken off yet, arcades were still very dominant
It was the first handheld console so the idea was novel at the time

i remember as a kid buying the goosebumps game and watch clone
it was cheap

also the idea of buying an entire system for one game isn't unique to nintendo, it also worked for things like mcdonalds happy meals and tamagotchi among others and those went on further than the G&W lasted

honestly the N64 won its gen games-wise
FF, crash bandicoot and tomb raider were good but even as a clueless kid I'd take the console with mario/kart, smash, zelda and banjo anyday

I love Smash 64 but I don't think it was even considered a main draw of Nintendo consoles back then. It wasn't till Melee that Smash became a household name.

They were relatively cheap little novelties, the same thing Tiger Electronics would be doing for the next 25 years. They were essentially upscale toy LCD watches for kids that also played a game.