what went wrong?
PoE 2
filtered
Tried to cater to the soulstards crowd.
I dont wanna replay the campaign twice every 4 months and the loot sucks
No Templar and Flails.
Started really good but reddit start crying about it not being PoE1 so now it’s now PoE1 with 10% of the content
what went wrong?
we're in the slop era. everything looks, feels, sounds, and plays exactly the same until the inevitable crash when companies think people will pay $100 usd for painful mediocrity.
nerfed flameblast by giving it a 15 sec cd
nerfed explosive grenade by increasing cooldown
obliterated anything and everything that strong
Gee I wonder why people aren’t happy with the devs making retarded balancing decisions
I downloaded the game and warrior only had a club for his weapon choice No idea what people see in this game.
soulslop won
tencent won
jonathan won
arpg lost
vision lost
chris lost
why do people hate the new season so much
we have shit skills and strong skills
we need a big patch that excites playerbase
lets gut the strong skills while shit skills gets little to nothing!
my bald vision is always right why people complaining?
ah so its poe1 all over again glad i never bothered with 2 then
Axes and swords aren't implemented yet, they only just added spears, so if you want to be melee your only choices are maces, staves, or a handful of spear skills.
They brought nothing new to the table, they didn't improve anything they copied and every other game does at least one aspect better than PoE2 plus something unique in some cases like V-Rising.
This game feels like last minute homework.
I'm having fun in HCSSF. Not sure what the new pissbaby rage is about. I don't pay attention to streamers.
I love this game. Having fun got around 90 hours in it witch is crazy for me. Sucked off the the wifes friend while he played the newest patch. Excelsior!
Make supporter park with sword MTX
Don't implement swords
No one is driving.
Yeah it's grim, game's been in development for what 6? 7? years and it's not only at this state, it's regressed and lost features poe1 has gotten in those years.
People STILL overreacting to a beta of a game. This is lit trolley the first update it has gotten, v0.2. So many retarded Redditors and crybabies expecting this game to have the amount of content And depth as PoE 1, which got expansions every 3 months for a decade. They obviously didn't play PoE 1 back then because it was on a very raw and unbalanced state just like PoE 2 is. Same old shit.
I am having blast. Fun class Huntress so fun. Spear throw satisfying and player numbers are at all time high with the new patch. This is golden age.
New class feels ass to play. Also launching a ARPG with no axes or swords is retarded.
Trust the vision
i guarantee you in a week people will still be deleting bosses in 1 second and farming temporalises
nerf every build
reducing build variety tenfold
nerf shit so its unusable
game runs like shit now
it crashes every 10 minutes now
no new content
wow, 10 years for this
No one is complaining about the lack of content besides retards, people aren’t happy with making the game a slog for mediocre builds and nerfing meh skills alongside the strong skills
>nerf every build
Simply not true
>reducing build variety tenfold
Cool number you pulled out of your ass, also false
>nerf shit so its unusable
Cry more, shit was broken before
>game runs like shit now
Disable Nvidia Reflex. Runs fine
>it crashes every 10 minutes now
Runs fine on my machine
>no new content
100 uniques, support gems, new class, new weapon type, wisps, end game more fleshed out, more crafting options
You are such a disingenuous little crybaby lul
what went wrong?
Redditors feel like they got their ball taken away so they're lashing out.
Play it and find out
runs fine on my machine therefore the problem doesn't exist
hate faggots like you
Without chudyula darkness carry, the temporalis farm is going to be much slower and they basically nerfed all the things that allowed to one frame bosses previously.
I will admit I have never been much of a Diablo fan (the genre) but I tried multiple times to get into POE1 and couldn't because it felt really slow and clearing maps took fucking forever. And this is probably because I am a brainlit that probably has an <90iq, but I could only figure out how to make a build by following one already made for me from the forums. Mechanics like "Make sure to always have max resistances to avoid getting oneshoted" seemed weird as fuck to me. I feel these types of games would be more fun if you could do full respects at will and try different tactics on the same character/class on a whim. Grinding to end game and finding out your build isn't viable and having that time wasted just never seemed fun to me.
Having NPC allies to command or even take control of could be interesting as well. But maybe that is just because I can't find groups for regular content or just casual play.
Honestly it's this. Every single patch brings a swarm of crybaby Redditors bitching about how it isn't exactly like PoE 1. I don't get why they don't just fuck back off to PoE 1 then. The greatest damage GGG did was fracturing the fans into two tribes. I like both games, but now there is this infighting about each one. It's pure retardation.
I noticed you didn't respond to any of his actual arguments
vision lost
Only reference I didn't get. Whose dis?
That comic
I love that the entire thing is not posted anymore that shows how fucking stupid the original context is. But it's nice "the left" has one instance of achieving addition through subtraction. It's a decent comic with the first 2 panels left out.
I suggest not playing on a toaster.
the graphics and works on my pc were his only two arguments. the rest was just accusing that anon of lying, why would he even bother.
free game costs $30 to play in an unfinished state
They didn't cater hard enough, it still plays like a shitty Diablo clone.
Anyone who actually played 0.1 but doesn't treat this game as a full is going to notice it's basically the same with how slow starting the campaign was before the patch. The majority of these complainers are streamers and their reddit armies sperging because they can't rush to maps in 3 hours
GGG did fuck up the loot again but it's not like they've done that for almost every PoE1 league patch
The greatest damage GGG did was fracturing the fans into two tribes
In my opinion their great mistake was just catering to reddit in the first place starting with the vaal fireball shit and it's just been downhill since. Every time they try to reel it in at all they're met with screeching and walk it back. They needed to rip the bandaid off 10 years ago. I honestly do think that once PoE2 has all its classes/ascendancies, act content, and full endgame they'll make leagues for each game and it'll finally calm people down but PoE1 players are actually mentally ill addicts at this point so it's going to be rough until then.
I said so so its true
lol
only thing that was not nerfed was warrior
Then don't play it in it's unfinished state
I've always seen a huge amount of negativity in PoE's fanbase. This is not new.
Every league people complain about one thing or the other and then you have people complaining about other people complaining thinking they're better but they're just the same.
But GGG has cultivated this audience theirselves.
there's more panels? I legit never knew
Agreed. The foundation is there for another great game like PoE 1. It's gonna take a while to get there though. PoE 1 fans are addicted to the zoom zoom blow up the screen bull shit, probably getting filtered in the campaign because they can't run past everything and get to amps in 3 hours, like you said
To be fair, that's the thing that bothered me the least.
Pay $30, get Early Access to the new game and then 300 points to spend on things that work for both games (or will, after a while). It's not a bad deal.
I've always seen a huge amount of negativity in PoE's fanbase. This is not new.
Yeah it's genuinely funny as fuck to me that the PoE fanbase is acting like they just looooooooove PoE1 now. As I said, they feel like their ball is being taken away so they're lashing out.
Like, "oh no we've missed out on bitching about 3 new league mechanics and balance patches since Settlers came out".
it still plays like a shitty Diablo clone.
Which was what made the first one so successful in the first place.
exactly why I haven't played it
I'll pay $30 when I love it, not to "find out" when it's going to be free
Everything I've seen of this game is just kind...I don't exactly want to say slow, but it seems as if literally everything you can do in POE2 is designed to waste as much of your time as possible. POE1 increasingly had this problem as leagues went on but POE2 seems way worse about it.
Dunno what this design choice is, I guess it increases playtime metrics or some other stupid bullshit.
The original context was some champagne socialist on Twitter trying to 'own the chuds' who called them a retard for saying 'Capitalism bad' when they use all Apple products. Because Androids exis and it's viable, probably even better. Yet they insist on using Apple anyway. I don't even remember the middle panel. The one with the medieval serf is the last one. The original comic compared to buying fucking APPLE products to serfdom when it comes to
"> Well I am too powerless to do anything against our evil and all powerful corruption society!"
It was something about sweatshops in China. But now they're suppose to hate China so I wonder how they feel about that now.
The point of PoE2 has always been to not be like PoE1, that's what they've been saying all along while marketing their game as "INSPIRED BY ELDEN RIIIING!" "MORE ACTION ORIENTED" etc. Turns out it's still too much like PoE1 and not like Elden Ring at all, it appeals to no one.
Look up footage from the PoE1 beta
Autism, narcissism. The lead devs are out of touch with reality. They don't play their game. They don't really know or care what players want.
These isometric action RPG's are all garbage slop glorified cookie clicker games so if I had to assume why they hate this one and liked the other one I presume it required one iota of reflexes that's simply too taxing for the enfeebled Diabloslop mind.
It really is just this. If you read into bitchposts that don't just fling accusations of mental health disorders like the post above you, a bunch of them do just say in a roundabout way that the gameplay needs to be as braindead and simple as possible so they can play it for a thousand hours every 3 months while watching streamers on their other monitor.
designed to waste as much of your time as possible
Yes, that's the point. That's why you have to repeat the campaign before you go to the end game (IIRC in PoE1 you had to repeat it twice) and why PoE1 has 5 filler acts that add nothing interesting and why they refuse to give players some sort of adventure mode like D3.
There was a conversation between the devs and the players about this. About them not wanting players finishing all the content in less than a month or something like that. So their philosophy since a long time ago has been hindering players' progress even if that's at the cost of fun.
I've played since Nemesis so I had to deal with replaying the campaign 3 times to get to maps. That isn't what I'm talking about; I'm talking about annoying shit like, waiting for Heist doors to open in POE1, ridiculously long boss intros and invulnerability phases, Harvest mobs taking 300 years to spawn and become attackable...just absolutely pointless time waste!
POE2 just doubled down on shit like that with massive maze maps and long animations. It's just not fun.
(IIRC in PoE1 you had to repeat it twice)
It was actually 4 times at a certain point.. normal, cruel, ruthless, merciless. As they added more acts they took them away. When act 3 was added they got rid of ruthless, so it was 3 acts x 3 difficulties. Then at 3.0 when they added acts 5-10 they got rid of cruel and merciless, though acts 6-10 are kinda remixes of acts 1-5 with the same resistance penalty that merciless had so it's just vaguely disguised merciless difficulty.
Yes, people want mostly braindead gameplay with deep character customisation so they can watch their build go zooom and collect loot. Hence why the devs are mentally ill retards, because they refuse to accept this and try to make a dogshit game nobody likes. Some more difficult encounters are fine but the grinding part of the game should be cruisey.
Nah, PoE2 is as piss easy as PoE1. Very few people complain about difficulty, most complain about how slow and boring it is. Not sure why I see this argument thrown away over and over, as if 90% of games out there aren't just as easy braindead. Specially coming from someone claiming to not like ARPGs and having no clue about these particular two games.
If I had to assume why this happens, I'd say it's people shaking and angry at the prospect of losing their jobs and having to go back to India or Pakistan.
PoE1 is still there for go zoom and collect loot though.
I'm having fun with my Lich; I'm glad they buffed Chaos spells.
I don't mind how slow the game is at the moment (I wish it was slower, see my last point), redditors who want to "skip" the campaign just so they can get dopamine hits from mapping are stupid, but I can see it being a pain in the ass if you have to keep repeating the same 3 acts twice every league. Hopefully they'll add the next 3 acts soon (but probably not).
They really need to slow enemy movement speeds though, they're zooming at PoE1 speeds while players are stuck with PoE2 speeds.
this, its not hard its annoying and frustrating
they completely forgot to consider effort vs reward curve
Nerfing hexblast was a pretty shit move.
removing hexblast from the game*
Payers forgot this was a paid beta and that GGG wants them to test multiple builds, not just stick with one meta across the test period.
Yeah yeah, the campaign-repeat is just an example because I haven't seen something like this in other games (or I don't remember it) and it's more blatant than anything else.
But yeah, there's other things like ground damage that you just have to wait out, or the anvil skill that's just you standing there watching the animation. Also the game has a thousand slows like hinder, maim, deli hands, temp bubbles, temp chains, drowning orbs, etc.
Oh, I didn't remember that many. I played before the 4th act was released then quit for a long time.
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The half-duration thing? Yeah it makes it unusable, which really sucks if you were thinking of leveling/mapping as a Curse build and not just being a ZDPS support for your friends. Considering they didn't even bother to change the preview video thing for it I'm guessing it was a last minute change because Lich was too powerful when they were playtesting it.
Not to mention curses having a 1.5 second delay which requires spending 20+ skill points to make them playable in the first place.
Really not sure what they were thinking there.
Explosive grenade wasn't even good before. You have to run away from enemies in order to use it in the first place. If you want it to deal any damage, you have to take a point that doubles the fucking fuses.
see people crying about stuff when I just been throwing lighting spears and stuff dies in like 2 or 3 spears
But yea the rare minions having more np than the fucking rare mobs is fucking wild
It's this for sure. I died 0 times, I was just very, very bored the entire time. That's not a good thing for a game like this.
I have 10,000+ hours in POE1
In POE2 in was in the tomb in the cemetery holding right click on a white skeleton for an actual 20 seconds, and I could see there were 15 such skeletons in front of me.
I just exited the game. Didn't rage quit, didn't get filtered, I was just bored out of my mind.
I can't believe they dumpstered flameblast. I played it last league and it was OK but not good. I was seriously hoping they'd buff it...
its poorly designed dogshit
every update makes warrior worse
It could still be spammable with some wack ass build to reduce curse duration but that's basically antithetical of what a normal chaos build is supposed to be and the mana costs would probably just kill it anyway.
It's just GGG doing the same thing they've been doing for years
compulsively lie to the players
if something is strong, nerf it so it's unusable
if something is weak, leave it there
if players come up with a specific unusual combo of skills or items that work well, nerf them both 3 times so they're all but deleted from the game
players who don't follow the meta get punished hard for not knowing which skills got "balanced" and are unusable
classic GGG
I once had a friend that had an abusive fat bitch for an on-again off-again girlfriend and PoE1 players remind me of her so much. Always talking mad shit about her boyfriend, getting in fights, physically abusive, etc. But the fucking MOMENT he started talking up any other girl even when they were "through" it's right back to "oooohhhhh babe I'm sorry".
if something is weak, leave it there
Not true, weak skills get randomly blasted too, especially if its melee because GGG despises melee
I don't know if this applies to all curses but leveling some of them increases their duration, so you wouldn't want to level them up at all (keeping mana cost and duration low), then cast two (or three) at the same time when you have the curse stack passive, and use Hexblast twice (or thrice) to pop each curse since it only pops one at a time.
Alternatively you can just left click essence drain right click contagion and then run around while everything dies, occasionally casting despair on rares and bosses.
You can't make ANY fucking name. It literally has to be some shit like fichusixixjsnxkieixirkkkoofi2737483892, or you can't log in to play. Piss on this faggot ass game
Fuck off pirat nation
the mana cost and the risk of using it more than made up for any benefit the skill had
now, what is even a point of having that skill in the game
Explosive grenade wasn't even good before
What do you think that anons post was about retard? Grenade was already dogshit and they made it more dogshit despite it already being dogshit
Make Diablo clone
Make it fun because you can do cool builds
Repeatedly do everything you can to gimp this aspect of the game by nerfing anything good and slowing the game down at every possible intersection
Why are they this like this?
People don't like that mid to endgame plays a lot like PoE 1, one shotting screens worth of enemies with one ability, but with wasd controls.
pathofexile.com
Poofags just blame redditors and whatever
But GGG are just fucking clueless man, this is so embarrassing...
Becasue you're not supposed to be able to beat all the content in 5 seconds by spamming broken shit
They haven't actually played a darksouls game just read about them on the internet
So they think this is what it is like
Like I want to be the boshy on the hardest difficulty, that's what they think darksouls means
It probably shouldn't take 15 minutes either, just a thought
we did nothing and will continue doing nothing lol
Why not?
its tedious
The design benefits of longer fights aren't being utilized so it just makes something simple drag on.
Hexblast itself tend to get ridiculously expensive, especially beyond level 20. At level 20 it's 190 mana and at 29 it's 442 mana without any support gems modifiers.
Just going essence drain, contagion, effigy doesn't motivate me. It's ok for trash clearing but that's about it.
Why not?
I'll tell you why, read what I said here. I stopped playing. Other people have too, that's why.
wow it even says in the mean time were releasing a new mystery box to hold you over
So you're either retarded or didn't play PoE1 enough
It doesn't matter how good your campaign is, eventually it gets tiresome.
Casual dopamine-starved zoomers, maybe vampire survivors is more your speed.
Even GGG says it was too grindy, you're just being a dickhead for the sake of being a dickhead
nigger, I am older than you
taking a long time to kill white trash mobs that drop fuck all nothing is tedious and annoying
you will eat shit as long as it's contrarian
Unironically tripled the health bonus on rare mobs
How the fuck did this get greenlit.
I tried PoE1 like three times and never got to endgame, the game felt like shit to play, the campaign was boring, and everything I saw of other people's gameplay where you just blink everywhere and press a button to clear the entire screen really didn't appeal to me.
How does GGG end up with numbers that are THREE HUNDRED PERCENT OFF
Who handles the balance of this stuff? This is not the first time I've seen such extreme overtuned values
muh drops, muh shinies
That is all you care about, you don't want a video game, you want a slot machine that shits out coins every time you pull the lever.
Long fights can be good
Game doesn't make use of the design space longer encounters provide so it ends up just being a net negative to the experience
Somehow I'm the asshole
Can you email me how to also become a paid shill, it seems like good work.
you are too dumb to even read
no point in arguing with a retard
You become a shill by playing the game and liking it
literally damage values got nerfed and the slot addicts are mad, I shit you not that's literally all that what their mad about boils down to it's astonishingly pathetic and petty, it's a prime example of how retarded mob mentality really is
how the fuck do you even let your brain devolve into skinner box obsessive mush like that?
If you have more than 1,000 hours in Path of Exile 1 your opinion is worth less than nothing.
jonathan...
fix your game and stop posting on Anon Babble
That's for the white mob minions that spawn with rares.
poe2 looks sounds and plays like nothing else you dumb fuck. if anything it's the poe1 cookie clicker lobotomites who will turn poe2 into a shiner poe1. they explicitly state this is their desire.
twitch.tv
Oldie but a goodie.
If they want people to pay to beta test their f2p game the very least they could do is allow the game to be fun instead of nerfing every skill to the ground, the campaign being slow as shit doesn't help either I played through it once and already got more sick of it than I did from the fist game's 10 acts.
thats literally the genre bro
this isnt dark souls and never will be
Now imagine those same people with a 400% reverse multiplier on the ratio from button presses to action. That is what they did for balance this time around. It makes no sense at all.
You can tell they didn't play the game.
Can you retards stop posting? If you don't play the game, shut the fuck up.
called it
make half of the skills become worthless or unusable
not a problem at all
no, they didnt cater to anyone
I read you loud and clear, you're currently seething and shitting your pants because I'm right. You crave the shinies, that succulent dopamine hit when the loot pinata pops, it can't come fast enough.
games that are like poe1:
games that are like poe2:
last sleepoch
diablo
I wish I was this stupid to be able to ignore my own stupidity like you
no you don't understand the game is supposed to feel slow and miserable to play and unrewarding!!!
What do you think are the values of these nerfs? 10%? 20%? 30%? Would it shock your expectations to know it's 50%? What about 80%? They nerfed everything by like 95%.
what we're working on
we're going to change some numbers to be 20% higher, some other numbers we're going to lower by 10%
also we're going to make a copy of a skill to generate frenzy charges but call it something else
nigger how does this not take like 10 minutes to implement. how the fuck did they have to abandon poe1 for this glacial development speed
Yeah, if you don't like it you're free to leave
we are
Anon they have literally nothing else in life.
Good, and stay out. We don't want you kind here, PoE2 is for real video game enjoyers only.
You guys are too big of losers for PoE2. You want to play PoE1 for endless grinds to fill your dead lives. Me? I have a wife and Im a medical device salesman. I love the game as is.
Weird, if PoE1 is such a good game why isn't it doing better? Surely if it's an actually good game you could enjoy it without a novel new shiny league mechanic that you'd be bitching about anyway right? Even the bottom of that line in your pic is almost 3x the current players in PoE1 lmfao
next you're going to tell me marvel is good
the game is a slog now. ive joined team last epoch.
You're the one that tried to appeal to popularity to begin with you dolt.
I'm a cuck that sells vibrators
weird flex but okay
Do you have any devices to fix broken dopamine receptors? This thread is gonna need one.
Why does everyone ARGP have to have a dodge button now? They devs always end up giving monsters attacks that you must use the dodge against or die.
It's not just PoE that did this
I'm not that poster and even if i was the indication of a downward trend and the dissatisfaction of players isn't an argument about popularity. That line was also not 3x the size.
I'm not that poster
That line was also not 3x the size.
PoE1 grind: pick up currency items to use them in efficient ways to craft new items
PoE2 grind: chaos spam lol
go play cookie clicker
it's devs trying to get the dark souls audience
i think d4 did it first and that was bad and made fun of but now poe did it and that means it's good
Does anyone remember all the shit they talked about how different the new campaign would be? Like there would be alternate paths, faster ways to do it with alts, etc. And yet, it's the same shit, a boring ass slog that's exactly the same for every single character.
SEE THAT MOUNTAIN? YOU CAN GO THERE
people wont realize this is irony
TRUST THE VISION
they abandoned the PoE 1 mouthbreathers that forgot what an ARPG should play like
literal braindead. the only thing poe1 has is the autistic skilltree and gems. it actually plays like any other low iq cookie clicker arpg. d4 was in its best state at launch. now you hit level cap in an hour because of people like you. pressing a button to delete screens is shit gameplay and anyone who likes it is wrong.
Make the game slightly hard
Poe 1 players complain
Poe community really outing themselves right now. I always knew poe 1 players were a bunch of bitches.
It's almost like the game is in early access and won't be finished in a long time, or something.
dodge is old news. now every arpg needs to have WASD controls.
They, unfortunately, tried something different. This game should've been named Path of Exile, instead of Path of Exile II.
cool man let me know when you get to level 100 in an hour in poe1
Need more tiddies
65% TO FINISH THIS YEAR LADS
TRUST THE PLAN!!!!!
i haven't played the new patch but when I got to end game I got to t15 and the on ground and on death effects were fucking annoying. also I would spend hours playing without ever seeing good loot. i just thought it was retarded wasting any more time playing this shit. you keep playing waiting for that dopamine hit but it never fucking comes.
reading around and it looks like the new patch just made shit worse
yeah its great the game is "hard" and all (by hard you just mean slow, clunky and dogshit)
but could they at least make the game fun?
like, make the skills feel good to use or something
this shit is fucking boring, its like wading through mud
like where's the reward for paying this slop kek
why do people want the game to be slow and deliberate when its a fucking arpg you play this shit when you have a movie on your second screen and want to zone out
Chris disappearing had a larger impact than expected.
Stinking PoE1 players don't know what fun gameplay, you just wanna zoom around at the speed of sound and spam massive AoEs that blows up the entire screen every 0.1 seconds, that shit is lame.
never played poe1 but that sounds fun.
another one
i dont want to actually play your game
this is why we say arpg players are a cancer and the reason their genre is such a laughing stock.
No they didnt. Its still literally just a looter clicker
No Rest for the Wicked is the proper souls+action RPG hybrid, and the combat itself actually feels great, rather than being an inconvienience on your way to loot like in PoE
It's about as fun as eye cancer
Just get some bubblewrap and a strobe light, same experience.
poe players been annoying cunts for a decade but come on now. you can admit 2 is in a shit state its ok. shit you could even play another game you have options now.
Also worth adding that since you never find good shit ever, if you want to switch to a meta build to handle end game content, you're forced to use the most dogshit trading market board system ive ever seen in my life. What a dogshit game.
Word, shame the game looks like some weird student art project full of nu-male energy. It could have been amazing.
Its a genre where you beat up all the monsters on the screen. I dont know why you take it so seriously.
it's fun like candy for breakfast is fun.
genre is about killing hordes of monsters for loot
wow I am super intelligent for pointing it out
Almost... and yet...... somehow.. I doubt...?
not him but poe2 is fine if you dont play it 20 hours a day every day. it obviously needs a lot of work, but arpg players are literal drug addicts who need a constant drip 24/7 and they have no patience or foresight. we can both agree that poe2 is in a rough state. the difference is that your suggested fixes would just involve making the game mindlessly easy, which is what we're talking about. it's telling that you sidestepped it entirely and just tried to reframe the argument, because you know your actual goals are embarrassing and gay and you don't want to actually defend that comment he replied to.
thats true of pretty much every video game. you people have absolutely no substance, which is why you like cookie clickers.
is candy for breakfast better than dogshit?
because you guys are getting mad that people aren't liking the second
there is no substance to poe2, it's literally the same game but they put a 200% slow filter on it
that's how retarded you are
you're playing the same game, just worse
You know people on this board truly hate videogames when ANY kind of dopamine release is somehow exploitative and games should be as slow and boring as possible, they've become the retarded boomers they made fun of
People that unironically eat candy for breakfast aren't capable of enjoying a proper meal
fpbp
poe players are just fucking annoying. always been the case. they play the most hyper overtuned ridiculous game in the genre and then complain its overtuned. and they wont play any other game in the genre cause uhh you know. 10 more years baby.
Wrong. I'm an absolute patrician and I enjoy a few pieces of chocolate with some fruit and coffee for breakfast.
We aren't talking a few pieces of chocolate here, we're talking gallons of sugar, 5 candy bars and 2 liters of soda.
Hows ranger? Last I played I was playing the lightning one
they nerfed everything including herald of thunder and the chaining for that build
Every single patch brings a swarm of crybaby Redditors bitching about how it isn't exactly like PoE 1. I don't get why they don't just fuck back off to PoE 1 then
The "old good, new bad" gamers are the worst and need to be exterminated.
funny how I and almost every other PoE player has no issue enjoying other games outside of PoE
maybe PoE2 is just dogshit
Visuals are one of the best parts about Wicked, what are u on anon
Hmm yes that's unacceptable.
So did they add druids to the game yet?
You’re supposed to buy your gear from the Chinese and then uninstall the game because you won
gimme my loot and gimme it NOW
you don't actually want a videogame m80 you want a fucking slot machine, you want cookie clicker, you want screen clearing and shiny loot everywhere all over the screen every waking second per click action because you have lobotomized your brain into seeking only that, seek some form of rehab
Imagine paying money to beta test a free game kek
I pirated this during the Spring sale but decided to hold off on it until either this upcoming patch or the co-op one after that.
It's good but very punishing and it needs something more to justify the time investment (ideally not deleting save files between updates again).
shitters mad
Campaign didn't need to be any more challenging or take longer than it already was
Only like 200+% magic find needed more serious diminishing returns
Only far outlier builds needed nerfing, and only on the elements of them that allowed them to scale so well at end game
The maps being huge & labyrinthine with lots of dead ends and nothing at all interesting in those dead ends needed to be addressed
The natural progression of any online rpg service game is that there's some amount of acceptable power creep over time, so that people can get through the content more quickly that they've already been through dozens of times. You add new content and new harder content over time to keep it challenging
Devs need to realize that overwhelming majority of people who bought into EA are already ARPG vets, and if they expect a more diverse crowd at official launch (ARPG novices), they need to think about what the experience will be like for those people
Is there any offline ARPG that's good?
I played DIablo 2 and Torchlight 2 ages ago, dropped D3, and never got interested in PoE.
complete shitstorm of a patch
still had more players show up than Settlers league
its bad cause its hard
holy filtered
Ultima 8 (1994) or Divine Divinity (2002)
only thing that was not nerfed was warrior
Should we tell him..?
I feel these types of games would be more fun if you could do full respects at will and try different tactics on the same character/class on a whim
Most RPGs do, to a varying extent.
Poe is unique in that when you're new, the cost of mistakes is quite high, then once you get to end game, you have orbs of regret falling out of your backside so you can reroll your whole character (at least the passive tree, anyway) every day and not even notice the loss of currency.
There was an interview with the fat haired retard who seemed genuinely shocked that re-speccing was cheaper late game than early game.
Are you telling me that enjoying the game is so rare they're willing to pay those who do?
poe1 players are shit at video games and poe2 is showing the gaming community they get filtered
it went from monk charge blade / flurry spam
to rake spam
interesting combo game here, GGG!
once you play POE2 you can't go back to POE1. it's far uglier and more tuned to autists who live to her their lootfilter make the loot-drop tink sound. Plus it's disgustingly bloated with a thousand different currencies
Game is boring and jank as fuck. Builds are streamlined, skills are limp, rollslop is unnecessary and clunky as all hell, endgame desperately tries to ape PoE, except a way duller, flatter, and less exciting version. It's not a good ARPG for people who like the fast and flashy ones, it's not a good ARPG for people who like the slower and more methodical ones, it's not even a good ARPG for people who are anywhere between the two. I don't even know who the hell this game is supposed to be for. I believe its audience is exclusively PoE players who got suckered into buying it and are now huffing eternal copium that the game will be good at some unspecified point in the future.
not hard just tedious!!!!!
I got a game code for free, but I can't get into it. Every build I've tried so far feels slow and weak, and way too many of the skills feel like they're shit on purpose because you're supposed to unlock some secret sauce that makes them actually playable way later (grenades especially give me this vibe), so I just stop eventually because I'm not having fun. Is there a build that is just decently fun from beginning to end?
lit trolley
Based public transportation chad
there's Grim Dawn. Crate has an expansion coming up, although they still haven't announced a release date. Also Crate gives you room to make all kinds of builds in GD without punishing you for going off the meta path like GGG does.
Reddit wants to play an auto battle gacha where you're immortal and 1-shot everything. Their feedback directly led to the creation of current Diablo 3.
I think both might be the direct result of porting these games to consoles
I wish they would fix the stash in that game to work like the external tool that everyone is forced to use if they want to beyond a casual playthrough
Some guy told me I could get "almost half" my damage from minions. Nigger I don't want to press buttons. Pic related is peak ARPG gameplay.
the visionTM
Minions are so fucking shit in PoE2, it's unbelievable. The skeletons suck fat ass, and for the longest time you only get those shitty black ghost things that do okay damage, but you can't create them during bosses, so they might as well not exist. You basically have to play an entirely different build until you unlock raging spirits.
They're shit in PoE1 too without very specific uniques to make them slightly less shit until you give up and just go sacrifice mode on them turning you into basically a homing fireball launcher instead of a regular fireball launcher
These clowns wanted to trip up Last Epoch by rushing their patch and shat the entire bed. Fucking kiwi clowns.
I haven't played PoE1 in years, but last I played, specters, golems, and minion army were still viable builds. You could go through the ten acts and early maps pretty easily by just slotting everything with the minion tag and throwing skeletons at the wall.
Low IQ retards (mostly redditors) come into a patch attempting to play previously overpowered builds that were nerfed and didn't read patchnotes
they are used to using overpowered builds to bypass boss mechanics both in POE1 and 2, and completely crumble the moment they have to play the game
Chaos ensues on reddit and twitch
Almost every criticism of the game is not analytical and devs respond by nerfing creatures HP by 25% and promise sweeping changes that will not actually fix the issues that seriously plague the endgame(RMTers controlling the entire SC market, stun threshold being so poorly designed that it forces nothing but poe1 zoomer metabuilds in late mapping, Loot being awfully designed thanks to the existence of equipment item rarity, and more)
On track to be the worst season
Yeah the acts sure but you get hard stopped the second you step into maps or side content beyond the first few floors like delve. Well, delve is a bad example for most builds but still.
yeah this
Haven't played since probably early 2022, but I remember minion army builds being by far my smoothest non-twinked leveling/early mapping experience since arc traps were good. And once in maps, you could generally pretty quickly buy/farm a couple cheap uniques/rares, or transition to something like carrion golems.
Perhaps I just suck at building then and wanted to be too hands-off with mine. I dunno.
I miss Blight league. Baron zombies were so fucking busted, you could just stand in the middle of the mushroom maze, build no towers, and the thing would clear itself. I still have my build from back then.
appreciate the response will look into them more
i wouldn't say taking 4 months to issue your first patch to an Early Access game is rushing
they're already not gonna make their milestones. although apparently they've decided they'll launch POE2 even without the missing content at the year's end, anyway, and just patch it in later like how POE1 did it.
Pretty much. It's a new game and the retards think they can wipe entire screens with the gray weapon they picked up in act 1.
Ultima 8 was a meme response (it's often considered to be the worst Ultima game), but check this one out: gog.com
They toom a bad game and made it even worse with no signs of every making it better in the future. It's poever.
poop2? Bad.
My beloved zombies...
I was the one who created that build all the way back before 3.0, when it was still rather bad, cause I just loved it thematically
Over time it got more and more powerful until it eventually became meta
Here is an early video of it
youtube.com
Two toilets
One poo2
Cruel campaign is a stop gap so they could release the game no instead of waiting until the rest of the acts are finished which is exactly what they did with PoE1
c-china is based!
all goody leaders are female
all baddy leaders are male
black woman girlboss in act 3
mfw she speaks
Tencent can fucking die
I don't think I'll ever understand people who play this time wasting slop. The gameplay is braindead, the story is shit, the "endgame" is grinding the same shit over and over so you can grind the same shit over and over slightly faster.
giving a shit about the fucking NPCs
Fuck off, tourist.
keep sucking dick
Aside from the obvious recent release issues, I just got tired of every monster being a clone of some other earlier monster.
50% of everything is an iron spearman, sharpshooter, infected walker or infected exploder or bramble ape in a new skin. No one talks about this, forget the 100 new unique items, put 100 new unique monsters in instead and people would be happier.
I was thinking about the amount of times in poe1 I've heard them say, the majority of their player base only really play the campaign & quit at around level 80.
So what if their entire goal is to actually make the campaign the game itself, especially since the endgame fucking sucks dick as we already know.
Unfortunately for them, this crowd that only play the campaign are the casuals that don't bother with mtx so why the actual fuck are they catering to them...
It also seems like the devs or community manager is some reddit lefty that ignores any negative feedback. Like "Players are complaining the Areas are Too Large, soooo we added more checkpoints" like what the fuck are they smoking up there?!
I feel like hate is a strong word to be used for anything, but by god I fucking hate the devs of poo2bad
Can I play this game without rollsloppery by becoming tanky enough, or is it pretty much mandatory?
See you post this like "omg game so easy it's bad, we want meaningful combat where we battle for 15 minutes"
When you retards realise that loot is so scares and you need to kill these bosses 100 times for your item, you don't want "meaningful combat" what's more it really poses people off when they website these long fights, feeling mentally drained & even broken for 1 blue item with shit stats.. One has to then ask what the fuck he's playing this turdslog for
I enjoyed playing Sparkmage because I could actually see what was happening on my monitor, what should I play in 0.2?
I picked up the gem earlier than that so I invented the build
I did
Not u
My build
Maybe, there is a few things that actually prevent you from rolling so clearly the devs consider that it should be possible but it is unquestionably an uphill battle.
Poses = Pisses
Website = Endure
Maybe my phones predictive text is made by ggg