Uhh...Clive bros

Very funny that any semi-well funded JRPG blows XVI away
If FFXVI did what Expedition 33 did just with a FF coat of paint, it would have probably sold well

Yoshida bros...

But Anon Babble told me that if a game was on gamepass it was sentenced to have bad numbers on steam...

Why does FF16 get so much shit on Anon Babble? It's not that good of a game, but it doesn't deserve half the hate it receives.

someone post the photo of the dev team

it's boring as shit

the best Final Fantasy game since FF12

I did not have this on my 2025 bingo card!

XVI represents everything wrong with Square

BUTT is the game good

Common turnBASED win like they always say

It's botted. Relax.

China is like 50% of steam now anyway

Ah yes, my favorite JRPG: Monster Hunter.

China is always 40%+.

Makes sense, that's where the bots come from.

Just drop it bro.

Is game pass even available in China? that might be why

EAT SHIT CLIVEFAGGOTS WAHAHAHAHAHHA

monster hunter will always be a jrpg retard

It's as much of a jrpg as Final Fantasy XVI.

finished ff16 recently.
It was alright but clearly rushed YET AGAIN and thats what makes me angry. Just finish a fucking game. Why even waste recources on all those dogshit sidequests anyway? God that was so unfun. Game itself could have been actually great if they bothered or I dunno hired fucking platinum or something to do it. Hated the combat especially the input window for the magic attack was too short to be fun and at the end of the game you don't ever use it anyway. Items sucked. Sidequests were gigaslop. Mid was useless character that they forgot to finish it seems.
Plot was....alright. The problem were that shit wasn't explained often or very late. Then timeskips are never good. They failed to make the world work imo. They shouldn't have bloated the game with sidequests and could have had nice 10 hours of good mainstory explanations instead. Kid part should have been longer and should have explained the marks. who jill was and them getting the doggo.

Well as you see I have a lot that I don't agree with but in the end I still think it was ok. I got goosebumps every time he turned into ifrit and like pretty much everything outside the few missing explanations and every single sidequest.
Soundtrack is 10/10. The game was great NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER SPOILER until cid died SPOILER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

Honestly if this was made be with monolith soft overworld and platinum games combat instead and with a better open world, itemization and less bloaty sidequests that actually had sovl it would have been game of the decade. Overall it being rushed and bloated it what dragged it down

thanks for subscribing to my blog. Needed to vent a bit.

I want this game to sell as much as possible.
It has been a while since a game got me hooked on the story, music, and visuals.

I like both though

nah. MH is incredibly complex and its supposed to be played at a slow pace.

nooo you can't do that

no MH Wilds

They are afraid

It's incredible the milestones this game has hit already.

almost AAA production value by a team of a few dozens of people, proving you don't need bloated budgets, hundreds of employees or outsource shit to pajeets

proving that Squeenix is managed by a bunch of out of touch retards because people still DO want turn-based games

exposing the absolute cope when shills used game pass as an excuse for low player numbers on Steam

female characters that are cute and act feminine draws people in

cheaper price than every other AAA game

All of these points are apparently astonishing realizations in 2025, and it's all coming from a new IP. Where's the cope by the rest of industry?
The likes of that Veilguard consultant or Josh Sawyer saying Clair Obscur is another "freak accident" like Baldur's Gate 3, telling people they simply need to lower their expectations.

Yeah... It's too bad that giant corpos like Microsoft, EA, Ubishit, Squeenix et al didn't think of such an obvious tactic to boost their own games. Really makes your noggin joggin.

buy an ad

I didn't realize granblue relink was that popular?

Yeah... It's too bad that giant corpos like Microsoft, EA, Ubishit, Squeenix et al didn't think of such an obvious tactic to boost their own games.

They did. It didn't help because they didn't make as much money back and nobody truly gave a fuck. It takes hundreds of people and several outsource studios to make the kind of dogshit that they make. And the marketing, millions into marketing. 33 was very cheap in comparison so they'll easily make their money back and then some.

you know clive is in the game, right?

FF16 was a double whammy of shit. Already a mediocre game FF only in-name, and they made it a PS5 exclusive initially.

>proving that Squeenix is managed by a bunch of out of touch retards because people still DO want turn-based games

squeenix knows this perfectly well. problem is they also really REALLY want those western AAA sales figures without understanding they're peddling games in a genre that will never in a million years come anywhere near.

fagsuke bros... 6 gorillion players tho...

where can I see this?

These stats are the same for basically every release on Steam nowadays.

The point is that boosting Steam player numbers is a schizo narrative - especially for a very small studio - to distract from the merits and important lessons that games like this are bringing to the table.

But if we were to believe that, then why wasn't South of Midnight botted to the same extent? How come franchises from much larger companies and with more resources fail to surpass the player count for a completely new IP? How would this small studio have the resources to bot player numbers, and why would they fucking care, especially when they reached a half million sales for the launch of their game. That was the number they reported because it's what truly matters, not fucking Steam player numbers.

It doesn't make any sense no matter how you try to spin this.

Those are the actual "freaks", and not "accident" because it's due to molestation.

It's not even his best game this year. Khazan was phenomenal. Anon Babble are retards for not playing his game. You've had all this time while 4chins was down.

raped by priest

raped by hugo

fucks the dog

raped by ship's crew

raped by Odin

proving that Squeenix is managed by a bunch of out of touch retards because people still DO want turn-based games

They know that. The issue is the people they currently have in charge of Final Fantasy view turn-based as archaic and want to take mainline FF into a more action-oriented direction. Except they can't even get the action combat right, so the games don't appeal to those who enjoy action games. Now we're at the point sales for a mainline FF have plummeted to levels the series hasn't seen since FF5-6 which must frighten Square Enix internally. It will be interesting to see how they respond with XVII.

That game's art style looked super drab and too much parry slop. Sekiro was alright, but I didn't like how enemies often forced you into clashing swords. That's what Khazan reminded me of.

It really beat Metashit Im impressed, honestly the game has a lot of issues, it shows its the studios first game, it got potential but they need to get rid of the french/realistic aesthetic shit I know they are french but the turbo anime writing and action with that aesthetic its just like water and oil

but they need to get rid of the french/realistic aesthetic shit

Kill yourself, troon.

The art design in general but especially the characters is the worst thing about it

>proving that Squeenix is managed by a bunch of out of touch retards because people still DO want turn-based games

The problem that Yoshi-Piss failed to realize is that:

You poach Devil May Cry 5's combat designer

People expect:

WACKY WHOO-HOO PIZZA-CHOCOBO ADVENTURES!

But if you give them:

**NOT** WACKY WHOO-HOO PIZZA-CHOCOBO ADVENTURES

They aren't going to play your shit.

I've got no problem with Final Fantasy trying to explore past-ATB and turn-based. I mean FF12 is the Magnum Opus of the series in my not so humble and absolutely correct opinion.

BUT Square seems to fuck up their non-MMO-ized JRPG combat post-ATB.

FF7-Rebirth has the best combat system out of any recent JRPGs.

That game's art style looked super drab and too much parry slop

Are you talking about E33?

Kill yourself, troon.

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Fucking bot, time to hit the gym faggot, grow some hair back while you`re at it

Oh wow, another rollslop game made by someone other than Fromsoft, which apparently just doesn't have a high enough output to satisfy people's desire to endlessly roll around bosses with unpredictable attack patterns because that's REAL difficulty.

I think the discourse that Final Fantasy is supposed to be the one and only JRPG and inevitably the point of comparison is incredibly stupid and causes a lot of people to miss out on a lot of great games especially since FF from 12 to 16 have been neither great examples of JRPG nor that great

Ben Starr isn't even the protagonist. It's Charlie Cox

Personapajeets... our golden high school years... aren't attractive to people?!

No, I'm talking about the game where environments looked monotone and empty.

I've got no problem with Final Fantasy trying to explore past-ATB and turn-based

I do. It should stop trying to be an action game and stick to being a JRPG. Sales figures prove SE should stop doing this.

I mean FF12 is the Magnum Opus of the series in my not so humble and absolutely correct opinion.

12 was easily the worst PS2 FF game, which says a lot given that one of them is an MMORPG.

finish act 1

South of Midnight

Who cares? It was some game from under whatever studio it came from tossed out into the wild because Microsoft never believed nor cared about it.
People here used to and still claim that BG3 was botted.
Point is, It's funny how it's okay to brush it off and pretend it's legitimate if it's a videogame you like and want to succeed. The game is already a success so there's nothing wrong with that regardless, just how BG3 was the moment it was released. At this rate it's destined to reach even more people through the word of mouth alone but the numbers/reviews will definitely help to boost it even further.

How would this small studio have the resources to bot player numbers

How would you know if this studio doesn't have people behind them ready to bankroll that?

Who cares? It was some game from under whatever studio it came from tossed out into the wild because Microsoft never believed nor cared about it.

Point is, It's funny how it's okay to brush it off and pretend it's legitimate if it's a videogame you like and want to succeed.

when you google cognitive dissonance does your own high school yearbook photo come up?

I don't play gookslop

This can't be happening...

What? Have you even played it? What an incredibly idiotic statement. It's a game that requires more than just slopshit or whatever the fuck you faggots whine about. If you play it like Souls garbage you get punished

Retard who has no opinion beyond regurgitating his hatred for anything popular. The game is everything Anon Babble pretends to be. Demands you to be good in order to pass the bosses without just limping on through.

I bet you cry when people pay for the "put chris away toy", faggot

forgot the .

chink sleep hours

player count already nosediving

LMAO
Why do bugmen love frogslop?

Where's the dissonance here?
There are plenty of games that came out from under Microsoft and no amounts of botting or shilling was going to save them, ever. That dogshit made by Arkane was destined to die and should've never come out but was pushed out anyway, because it's Microsoft and they can. They also know when it makes sense to invest into stat padding and when it doesn't.
I'm right. If it's a successful title people consider woke or Chink-made or some other shit they'll claim its popularity is artificially inflated and botted.
I don't care either way, just funny to see how ~40% of the playerbase being Chinese isn't an issue and totally legit THIS time around because the game passes the vibecheck.

Who cares?

And who cares if Clair Obscur had failed? The stakes are much higher with franchises like Dragon Age, AssCreed and so on. You're telling me poor Ubisoft and EA don't have the resources to bot their games with huge numbers if they wanted to, unlike Clair Obscur? lmao

People here used to and still claim that BG3 was botted

All claims about botting Steam player numbers are fucking retarded, is what I'm driving at. Simply because no company has ever used that figure to boast to investors. It's always been sales, shipments, or, in truly desperate cases, *total players* like Ubisoft has done with AssCreed, with no mention of sales figures.

It's funny how it's okay to brush it off and pretend it's legitimate if it's a videogame you like and want to succeed

The game is already a success

Ok, so case closed?

How would you know if this studio doesn't have people behind them ready to bankroll that?

Why would you make a point you cannot prove?

Oh, I even forgot about Avowed as another example of a catastrophic failure. That's even more relevant because it was also published by Microsoft.

They're finally allowed to play something other than chinkslop and they're like a starving man at a food bank

And who cares if Clair Obscur had failed?

The people that made it, probably some investors as well.

You're telling me poor Ubisoft and EA don't have the resources to bot their

They do and they do, when it's a game that's worth boosting.

All claims about botting Steam player numbers are fucking retarded

Tell it to the people who decide that arbitrarily based on whether they like the game or not. Either nobody bots or some do, why can't it be the one you like?

Ok, so case closed?

Sure, if you believe it's legit.

Isn't this Steamspy? Isn't Steamspy wildly inaccurate and basically just random guessing based on review counts these days?

The people that made it, probably some investors as well.

Are you a dev or have financial interest in their success? If not the fuck are you doing kvetching about meaningless numbers in a fucking single player game?

based chinks buying games instead of pirating it like white and brown men. who's commie now bitchass?

The people that made it, probably some investors as well.

BUT NOT THE OTHER GAMES THAT UTTERLY FAILED WHICH MICROSOFT COULD ALSO HAVE BOTTED

Holy shit, you are beyond retarded.

They do and they do, when it's a game that's worth boosting.

Prove it. What's the fucking criteria that an unknown game by an unknown studio is worth botting, but not other much bigger franchises that ended up with lower player counts. Also, give me an example of a large company using Steam player numbers in a press release.

Tell it to the people who decide that arbitrarily based on whether they like the game or not.

I don't have to tell anyone shit, this is a complete red herring, and I continue to say botted Steam player numbers is a retarded claim no matter the game.

Sure, if you believe it's legit.

You yourself have said CO is successful, nigger. Pay attention to your own words.

Wow 33 popped off huh? Good for them, its a good game.

PSO2 in top10

Chinks realized more PC games exist than just LoL/DOTA/WoW and are now taking over Steam

I bought a new PC recently so I can run FF16 now. Is it really that bad? It's impossible to get a straight answer on this board. FWIW I enjoyed DMC5 and the guy who did the combat for that worked on 16? I also liked FF7 Remake

Lmao retard stop living in the past.
There is over one billion Chinese people and they are getting richer every day.
Get used to it that they form a major consumer base.

This game is just shilled hard by microsoft which is why you should avoid it at all costs.

I dont think 16 is garbage but it is not really a jrpg at all, the whole "Expedition 33 is way more jrpg than 16" is pretty true. 16 is okay if you like character action, but its a fairly shallow character action that attempts to be game of thrones with the Eikon fights just being spam one button qte, might as well be a cinematic. The other issue is the games sidequests are genuine kusoge and the middle section of the game is really badly paced. I think its a 6/10 movie game.

Is it really that bad

Kind of. The story sucks and drags on near the end. The combat is basically worse DMC5. Soundtrack is pretty good most of the time. The kaiju battles are the best part.

Also to add to this, the game has maybe 4/10ths of the depth of really any DMC game so don't expect that level of tech, its also just a really easy game to mash.

chinks are LOLfags

ziggers are CS2fags

mutts are fortnite or codfags

the trinity race of barbarians that shall be annihilated from this planet for actual world peace ,but most importantly to have a better and healthier diversity in gaming community.

FF16's main issue is that it's not a FF game, it's a wanna be DMC clone. And while that does sound really awesome, it's held back by the fact that it's still pretending to be a RPG, so you get an awesome action game filled with retarded shit

Plot is pretty awesome, until it falls off hard because muh ancient evil has awoken. The last 3rd of the game is completely unbearable
Battle system is great, but it's filled with faggot RPG mechanics such as the most pointless forging system ever imaginable and forcing you to equip your skills/moves, meaning that you'll never access to your full arsenal during battle
The sidequests also lack any sort soul. I 100%'d the game and I can't remember a single good sidequest besides the chocobo one

Definitely play it since the battle system is genuinely god tier before it starts pissing you off

kys tendie

Thanks. I don't mind a mashing action game but I struggle with poor pacing if there's no depth.

Metaphor only did 85k

Kinda surprising after all the Persona wank over the years, and its genuinely just more of that formula.

Hey Barry.

I like FFXVI. I like Expedition 33. What are you gonna do? Huh? You little bitch?

And if you played FF14 it becomes very apparent that they just ported that game's template over 16
And it just doesn't work for an actual singleplayer game

Jrpgs are simply nowhere near as mainstream as your other sloppa genres.

that's twice as much as any persona game did, most of the hype for that entire franchise is just obnoxious twittertroon spam

Final Fantasy unironically has always been bad.

Well those were all delayed releases, Metaphor actually released day one on PC.

Or maybe it has to do with the fact that every single PCfag had already played the persona games elsewhere
P5R only released on PC in 20fucking22 for fucks sake

What's the fucking criteria that an unknown game by an unknown studio is worth botting, but not other much bigger franchises that ended up with lower player counts

Game good and anticipated - worth botting; game bad and not getting a lot of interaction on social media - not worth botting. Why'd you bot Concord, everybody can see it sucks and doesn't appeal to anyone. Why'd you bot South of Midnight? It's not even good.
But Anon Babble told me China bots everything, including the steam numbers. Did people lie to me?

Chinese PC gamers number in over 300 million. This is going to be the reality of every upcoming game that's not too woke/amerisloppy. The only way to shoo away the Chinese from your game is to have really ugly american women in them, like Concord, South of Midnight, Dustborn etc. Those had exactly 0 Chinese players.

Do you have any source of Chinese being able to grab Gaben by the throat and skullfuck his entire platform with bots somehow? They'd be the only ones that actually succeeded.

If they can massbot in wow to farm gold they can do it on steam. It's not that complicated I bet.

The FF killer is killing FF

Who could have seen that one coming?

by this standard Hollywood films like Marvel movies and Disney animations must have low revenue in China too if their success on china's movie cinemas was heavily botted. The Chinese have a robust consumer culture similar to America's, so it's natural they'd invest money in video games rather than pirating them like brownoid of Anon Babble does.

only 24%

less players than expedition 33 on steamcharts

kek

So you're saying this literal who French game has bigger marketing budget than Ubishit that wasted hundreds of millions on AssCreed Shadows?

Ok but you keep repeating this in every thread without proof, as if it's a known fact.
Provide source or your mother dies in her sleep tonight.

...Turn... baseduro?

Game good and anticipated - worth botting; game bad and not getting a lot of interaction on social media - not worth botting. Why'd you bot Concord, everybody can see it sucks and doesn't appeal to anyone. Why'd you bot South of Midnight? It's not even good.

None of that makes any sense and you're literally just making shit up. I asked for evidence, not retarded conjecture.

The marketing was almost nonexistent. A few trailers here and there and that's it. I'd wager getting Cox and Serkis on-board cost more than their entire marketing budget.

I mean FF12 is the Magnum Opus of the series in my not so humble and absolutely correct opinion.

Absolutely based

metaphor refantazio

persona 5

now clair obscur 33

How much more evidence does square need that jrpgs work and it should just make a good one instead of shitting away resources trying and failing to make a capcom game?

Either work with capcom directly, or hire Itsuno already, or go back to what you are good at, but stop wasting everyone's time.

I want Square to stop fucking around and use Yoko Taro already. He's been doing fuckall since Automata. Give him FF17 and watch money trickle in.

I stopped supporting anything made by SE ever since pic related happened, and FF6 is one of my top 5 games. Best decision I've ever made.

Game is pretty fun but there's too many git gud moments with the stupid dodge and parry system. The attack patterns in endgame are retarded.

I'm glad they're taking over Steam. Give me more cultivation games

ACS2 fucking when. ACS was the only game that managed to fill the void Lobotomy Corporation left when PM dropped the winning management sim formula for a shitty deckbuilder.

I wouldn't be able to handle the pretentiousness.

This game is SO FUCKING GOOD
I am fucking screaming KINO constantly like an autistic retard

Clive is in the game thoughbeit

yurocucks play DOTA2 though. That's just as bad and if you imply otherwise you deserve a nuke.

Same desu. The game's fucking magical, it feels like I'm playing FFX all over again.

This but unironically.

fighting Renoir

the lyrics kick in

kino

Ok but you keep repeating this in every thread without proof, as if it's a known fact.

There are videos of them doing that shit. Some guy who used to do investigations about this got doxxed or something and he had to stop. Literally a damn mafia of bot gold farmers. Huge money in this business apparently.
I never said cinema industry is botted there.

I mean FF12 is the Magnum Opus of the series in my not so humble and absolutely correct opinion.

XII > XV > the rest

Get raped, nigger.

t.zoomer

ff6 has better story and sovl compared to any nuFF games.

yurocucks play cs league dota and valorant
postsoviet cucks play cs and dota
mutts play cod and fortnite

No.

Cope. Final Fantasy mogs your trash turnbased slop

wrong.yurocucks play fifa and pes and i'm not even kidding.

you deserve a nuke

doesn't exist.fact checked by true Anon Babblemen patriots.

XV > the rest

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

Make game with good looking women and no niggers as main characters

50% china

It's that easy