Are they really going to remake Silent Hill 3?

Why remake the sequel before the first game?

huh?

2 has the best story

lol fuck no

im a sucker for 'my long lost wife called me to a place' kind of stories

thats not realy a remake of Silent hill 1 though
is a alternative telling of the game seen through the eyes of cheryl as she lost her dad in a carcrash and never accepted it

its a 'its all in your mind' bullshit story

5(origins)

Don't ever disrespect this franchise like that.

understandable

so
when is that fucking movie comming out

youtu.be/NZLrjCzVGz8
it cant be worse than the second one right?

i liked it well enough
the peak parts of origins are better than the worse parts of 4

but the PEAK of the early games is still better than anything in that game
but atleast THEY TRIED to work on the series as it was instead of making a generic RE4 clone

Yes, but it counts as the SH1 remake, it was promoted as such and you literally play the entire game as Harry.

not the ENTIRE game
the fps parts you play as cheryl in the present

You don't "play", you just fill the questions answers inside a glorified cutscene, there is no actual "gameplay" in there.

this entire 'muh 1 muh 2 muh 3' argument is retarded

when everyone knows SILENT HILL THE ARCADE is the best game in the series

I don't understand your hatred for 4. It's my favorite one granted, but at the very least you can make the argument that it's at least the most original one.

yeah
modern horror games in a nutshell

Because Silent Hill 3 is like 70% an asset flip of Silent Hill 2. It reuses huge amounts of SH2 and it's something they can put together in a year or two.
Silent Hill 1 is a completely different beast.

oh dont get me wrong i dont 'hate' 4
i enjoyed all 5 games the only one i was sick by the end was origins
it goes way too long
i hate the ghosts, they are a bad design choice and that ONE stupid 'colect all the body parts while running away from a unkilable enemy + having to use a torch' part in 4 is the WORSE part of the game, the rest is fine it has some of the best puzzles in the sries and eleen is cute

This but unironically.

Im talking only about the therapy sesions you dumbass

My biggest issue with SH1 is that all of the enemies suck. Giant bugs and pterodactyls are not good design and they don't fit at all with the aesthetic of the rest of the series. And the nurses/doctors being infected parasite monsters is just dumb. I think the mumblers and the incubus are the only monsters I like from the original game.

I wish they'd port The Arcade, or even do a full remake of it (as long as they keep Polish hands off of the character models).

I like it a lot but there are few things that bust my balls hard. The endings for example, its gay that its tied to the hauntings and the damage Eileen takes. Oh and the fucking ghosts. They are neat looking and the idea is good but the execution is just bad. Its honestly the worst thing in the game. Lets introduce technically an unavoidable enemy at the point of the game that has an aoe damage aura and your safe place doesnt heal you anymore fuck you. Its honestly a dick move and there is not a single person on this planet that can justifiably defend it

Eleen shaving

its gay that its tied to the hauntings

Never had a problem with it. Just do all the hauntings and collect the medallions beforehand to deal with them, I actually like the hauntings because I never know what effects they'll have and it sort of reminds me of the hallucinations in Eternal Darkness.

Oh and the fucking ghosts. They are neat looking and the idea is good but the execution is just bad. Its honestly the worst thing in the game

All you have to do is carry your swords of obedience to the next area after you finish collecting everything in the current area. Don't tell me you were actually filtered by this simple mechanic?

I would love to be able to explore south ashfield...

but heather is such a good character that the game is great anyway

anyway

ANYWAY?? WHAT DO YOU MEAN ANYWAY??

You fucked up... you fucked up...

i just wanted to keep his memory alive

Me too, I fucking love SH4 man
youtube.com/watch?v=mnbe_psImI4

Dont get me wrong, the hauntings are cool as fuck, its just gay that its directly tied to which ending you get

swords of obedience

There are 5 in the game, there are nearly 20 ghosts in the game. You wont know beforehand which ones are worth to bind down so they dont harass you. I didnt get filtered, i think i have got every ending in the game. Its just frustrating and if you are a casual and play the game only ones, the ghosts will easily ruin the experience for you

Next time make sure to keep the filename "Eileen shaving.webm" as well

Meh I was never that enamored with the SH creature philosophy. There's just not enough color variety

I don't see anything wrong with it. Thematically it fits with Alessa being young and afraid and how things might seem scarier. I like how the game has dogs and birds and harmless larval stalkers but then later on you have the awful rompers and more threatening stalkers, there's a contrast there. The sewer monsters were also creepy.

SH1 monsters definitely worked better than the monsters in other games too. 2 and the rest put too much focus on symbolism and appearance and kind of forgot that they're game enemies and function needs to be more important.

The REAL Silent Hill 5.

the rust world is unironicaly holding SH down

i get it rusty hospital full of blood is scary but they dont ALL need to be that

the nurses were in there because james was visiting his wife in the hospital and looking at the hot nurses

I REALLY hope that their next remake (and Silent Hill f) run better. SH2 being a stuttering piece of shit really hindered my enjoyment of the game.

I wouldnt even want to play remakes of either of those two.
SH3 is already so amped up and intense and SH1 is so creepy.

Not happening. All the nuSH games are developed on Stutter Engine 5 which is inherently plagued with the problem.

games will only run well on the unreal engine 5 in about 10 to 15 years due to pcs being good enough to ignore that shit

SH3 and 4 aren't really that rusty.
SH3 is more organic and started the whole living environment thing with it supposed to look like you're inside a uterus.
SH4 is more mold and sickness.
Even SH2 (the original) is more wet/damp and decaying than rusty but Bloober fucked that in the remake where it goes full Homecoming for most of it.

i though SH3 was supposed to be bugs
cause of that ONE room with the mirror on it

Nah the idea has always been that you're in a uterus going through menses. To compliment the idea that Heather is pregnant.

too bad almost half of the original hauntings were bugged out in the original PC version. They recently finally patched it by incorporating the unofficial fan mod but the damage is already done

it were one of the more cooler hauntings too that bugged out like the church portrait in the bedroom getting replaced with walters corpse face. Right above the space where his real body is hidden behind the wall

Monster design was real hit and miss too. For every Twin you got the flying bugs. While as much as people tend to hate the ghosts the concept and tie in to the story they represented was neat as fuck

with it supposed to look like you're inside a uterus.

really? I always took the "organic" looking textures as various forms of pustules, gangrene and rot manifesting itself from alessas burned body

it wouldnt be so bad if they didnt get up AS SOON as you finaly get them down

seriously
i once took down the fucking thing 5 times in a row cause it just kept going up and not letting me use the fucking sword

oh inside alessa's body there is only my cum flowing and poring down her burned pussy lips

I want the VR version of them. Not even some faggy first person perspective with the motion controller waggle sticks but just as is 3rd person where the player follows around the characters as a floating camera

praydogs resident evil VR conversions showed this works surprisingly well as long as the player can look around without turning the character

I mean you could definitely interpret it that way as well. But to me the bleeding walls always felt like it was invoking menses imagery. It fits with the pregnancy themes of the game.

she should have woken up in a motel and not in a restaurant if they wanted to push the 'heather is pregnant' message

she looks like she is 16, not realy sexualy active yet

I don't think the game ever implies Heather is promiscuous nor is she sexually active. The monsters being sexual seems more like a fear of sex (natural for a 16 year old girl) than anything.

I'm still so pissed off we never got SH5.

The original plan was something like "horror in daytime" which sounds to me like an extension of the Ashfield sections in SH4.

youtube.com/watch?v=dMXNwOfa2E4

The idea of horror happening in broad daylight while other people are around is a really good one. Basically the first 10 minutes of SH3 turned into a full game.

Those are my thoughts exactly. The mall in SH3 had such such kino atmosphere dripping from its prologue. Coming home to your apartments too felt like you were really walking around 2000s suburban America.

The original Dead Rising has that feeling too.

I dont care about 4 but the areas in the game have great dream-like atmosphere, like something out of Nightmare on Elm Street.

Censorship tights for Heather, don't support woke trash

No it doesn't, it was a completely unrelated game that they shoehorned Silent Hill into during development. It's the "Nightmare on Elm Street 2", or "Jason Goes to Hell", or (insert Hellraiser movie after 4 here) of video games.

Anyway, it's forever locked onto Wii, so it may as well not exist.

My favorite game in the series is 4, but objectively I think 1 is the "best" one. 1 is the type game you should play even if you don't like horror games at all. The sheer originality, world and mystery in that game has never been matched.

Anyway, it's forever locked onto Wii, so it may as well not exist.

It's on PSP and PS2 as well and I think some other platforms

It was Silent Hill Coldheart for much of the development about a drug addict girl returning home and the therapist scenes being her working through her trauma. The SH1 Remake stuff came the last ~2 years of development after Homecoming underperformed.

Split head was cool too though.

Blame Ito for being a stupid hack fucking nigger

1 is fucking impressive when you realize how fucking BIG the overworld is compared to the average ps1 game

how they managed to pull that off in a PS1 its beyond me
that game is as impressive as just cause 2 is on a ps3 to me

based just cause 2 enjoyer

Ever play Mizzurna Falls?
Open world with solid draw distance, lots of locations, driveable vehicles, character routines, etc
The fact that game runs on a ps1 blows my fucking mind

Thanks for reminding me to play that. I have it set up on my Xbox and haven't gotten around to it.

doesnt the rabbit on the bed stare at you at one point? havnt played the game since release but I remember it scaring me

Daily reminder that half the hauntings on the PC version of SH4 just don't work for some reason and people who played it on PC didn't actually play the game.

Yes it does. It doesn't move or anything but at some point when you look through the hole it's aiming at you.

What retard plays SH on anything but a PS2/PCSX2?

Ever play Mizzurna Falls?

only the start
the fact that i was a point and click weired me out

The PC version of SH2/SH3 have better lighting. Per pixel instead of vertex.

Fucking imposter

not playing in software mode, CRT filter ON with noise effect

Normally I like my games clear and sharp as shit. Silent Hill is the ONE exception to that.

I didn't realize that it ever got ported to anything else.

No worries. I remember seeing it marketed heavily on Wii during the Nintendo Power days, I always associated it with the console as well.

It wouldn't make sense narratively though. The whole hook of SH3 is "OMG, Heather is actually Alessa/Cheryl from SH1!", and 1 establishes the lore of the town.

Both versions look really bad compared to the Wii version. They're not worth touching desu. The only reason I did is because it's easier to emulate ps2 than Wii.

The motion controls are fucking godawful on Wii.

Probably because remaking the first game would require making an entirely new game with all the costs associated with it. By comparison you can take 2&3 roughly as they are and dump that skeleton into a 3rd person action game and it will work with relatively minor tweaks.

Also why do you think they did a remake of the second game instead of starting with the first? Because it's 100% a cashgrab based on nostalgia bait and SH2 is one of the most jerked off games of all time. Anyway I really hope they stay away from SH1, the games is perfect as is, the low resolution jittery graphics absolutely add to the atmosphere of the game, it's one of the rare cases where the tech can't be separated from the game.

They did a remake of the second game because it was intended to be a glorified tie-in to the "Return to Silent Hill" movie that somehow still hasn't been released. It's like that Ratchet and Clank remake that came out when the movie did, or that Prince of Persia game that came out when that movie did.

Anyway I really hope they stay away from SH1

You should be approaching 3 the way you're approaching 1 here. You have no idea what they're going to do to Heather.

Harry was a PS1 legoman, an SH1 remake will be inoffensive at worst because nobody really cares what Harry would look like in modern slop. Heather will be a fucking nightmare the day demake gets announced.

Harry Mason should look like Johnny Depp

At first I didn't mind remake slop, at best it's a little fun distraction, let's you see a game you are familiar with under a different light with higher fidelity graphics. It's not like the original is going anywhere but over time I really started to hate it, because the remakes tend to effectively erase the original game in the broader discourse. You can't even search the original SH2 without the results being 90% remake. Same for RE4.

I've beaten SH1, SH2, SH3.

SH1 is my favorite

This is a reimagining not a remake sorry.

Imo, the bigger issue is just the lack of new games.
They spent like 5 years remaking Silent Hill 2.
That's time that could have been spent making a new, high quality Silent Hill game.
Same with Virtuous making Oblivion (again, 4 years to make) and Bluepoint making Demon's Souls.
If it was like 1-2 years to make these remasters it would be one thing but they're taking just as long to remaster as they are to make something brand new.

Nah nigger it's the best
Granted I haven't touched 4 and beyond yet (and I doubt they're going to be good) but 1 was the only game that I wholeheartedly enjoyed.

Whenever I think of silent hill 3, or 1, 2 and 4 for what matters, I'm reminded how I lost all my copies when I became homeless and it's throwing me in a scorched landscape deep within my mind where the sun never shine and then my day is ruined.
And now to put more shit in my shit sandwich you tell me there's a possibility of a slopmake of silent hill 3 rushing at us in the unkind future.
I wish for an endless stream of curses upon this world.

I'm gona ask because this shit is never explained.

SH1 - has monsters and demons and a hell world. Its revealed this is down to an evil cult.

SH2 - Actually no monsters or demons are here. Everything is in James head because his dead wife in trunk of his car is torturing him via SH connections to purgatory or something.

SH3 - The evil cult is back and monsters are real?

So in sh2 did all the monsters avoid james

I am deeply tired of the marvel nigger generation hunting for lore and detailed wiki explanations and factoids and anything to fixate a story that's meant to be hazy and open to interpretation into a solid, dull state. I cannot convey how much I want your kind exterminated.

They ruined the concept of Fight Nights at Freddy's with that shit.

Silent Hill is a spiritual place that takes your subconcious thoughts/desires and manifests them in reality. It has always been this way and it was used as a religious place by the Indian tribes for hundreds of years. The cult doing satanic shit to Alessa in Silent Hill 1 caused the spiritual energy to become corrupted and manifest in evil ways. Silent Hill 2 doesn't happen in James' head. It's just the mystical town energy taking his desire for punishment and manifesting it back on him.

I pity the overconnected fools discovering silent hill now because when I did I had no internet and up to 3 I had to work with what I had which happened to be a very impressionable teenager's mind. And the way there's evil cracking in the air anywhere you go, how the world itself seems to be creeping on you and twist things to wage psychological warfare on you, it made the threat impossible to identify. It was the best horror experience I ever had.

Then motherfuckers today play it and read a line on the gayternet that's instantly spilling the beans about what is what and what's doing what and the mystery and lingering fears are vanquished in a blast of gayness. Fucking QUEERS.

Do you have any clues as to how you're murdering the experience?

I'm not saying anything that isn't explicitly in the games. If you play the first three games you should come to the same conclusion.
It's only really SH4 where it becomes muddy.

Silent hill 1 is too large and complex. They wouldn't be able to program the monsters that aren't humanoid because they suck.

Because SH3 uses locations from SH2. Making it easier and faster to make. Honestly, the assets in SH2R make it easy to make either SH1 or 3.

Retardbro...

I don't want a fucking shitty remake for SH1 so it's ok. They can butcher Heather as much as they want.

I love SH1 and I kinda agree with this, but if you look at all the enemies that were cut from the final game it was almost entirely animals.

And the nurses/doctors being infected parasite monsters is just dumb.

Hard disagree, I love their hunchbacked movements and the horrible noises they make. The deep gurgling groan the doctors make when they die still lives in my brain.

youtu.be/Lywca3S74vw?t=526

Yes. After Eileen get's Rodney Kinged, the Robbie the Rabbit doll falls and ends up in a position so it looks like it is both staring at and pointing at the peephole you use.

Didn't the GoG version fix these recently?

SH2 Enhanced Edition is objectively the best way to play it but I remember the PC version of 3 both had a ton of costumes cut from it and the lighting had some horrible ghosting to it that I think remains unfixed to this day.

Here's praying 3 get's it's own EE one day.

You can't even search the original SH2 without the results being 90% remake

can't stand this, searching up james sunderland just gives you the polish faggot instead of the real james

Granted I haven't touched 4 and beyond yet

4 is the best one, don't bother with the rest.

Why didn't you just lend them to friends or family before you got evicted?

Actually no monsters or demons are here. Everything is in James head

That's not it. The Otherworld is real and everything inside of it is real, it's just that they manifest whatever's in your head.

3 can reuse 2's map. 1 cannot.

Oh come on. You can hate a lot about the remake but Luke Roberts mogs Guy Cihi so fucking hard.

SH2 Enhanced Edition is objectively the best way to play

No, it's not. You moron.

You are a fake fucking Silent Hill fan or I'm getting baited and it's working.

Stop arguing and just post more Heather.

SH1 is the best game in the franchise, and thus the best survival horror game ever made.

SFM of SH3's nurses

This is the only thing I'll be looking forward to if a remake happens.

claudia > heather

No

All I want is for remakes to be in line more with RE1's remake where you get the OG fell of the game with a few gameplay tweaks and better graphics 1:1 with the story but also allowed to expand on it in areas.

yeah but i dont want vincent's sloppy seconds

The only reason to go back to RE96 is the DS version's tappable Jill ass and boobs. REmake replaces it in every other way.

SH1 is not only the best SH it's also better than all fixed camera RE games

They both look like they smell but she looks like she smells of poo

Because they did it right. RE2 and RE3 remakes were so bad I didn't bother with 4 and have no hope for 5. RE3make was so awful It completely put me off any further remakes for any game.

nta but the new guys acting was great. He actually tried, that rarely happens with VAs. OG acting was programmer acting. The kind of acting a programmer on the team could do

RE2/3Rs are basically just new RE games. They may not work as remakes but it's still nice to have them. Whereas RE4R is an abomination that should've never been released

Did you guys learn NOTHING from the terrible Silent Hill HD Collection? Guy Cihi is literally MODELED AFTER JAMES. Any stilted quality is a quality of JAMES HIMSELF. He's meant to be otherworldly, facilitated by Cihi not being a voice actor, so his dialogue came off as having dream-like qualities: awkward, genuine and most importantly lacking self-awareness, which added vulnerability to the character. This new Troy Baker-lite faggot sounds like he's a generic 'tough guy protagonist'. I can't believe how far nu Anon Babble has fallen to the point even one person could praise that cookie cutter literally who over the actual James motherfucking Sunderland.

No shit.

REmake is the better game no contest but RE PS1 is still worth playing, the gameplay is tight, the mansion is very well designed, and the camp and iconic lines are classic. Plus REmake assumes you played the original and messes with your expectations, some of the new mechanics are extremely clever and will really surprise you as a returning player. You are honestly missing out if you skip it.

He's not otherwordly, he's a spaced out, sleep deprived man who is not completely in his right mental state since he was planning to kill himself soon. I actually think Robert's version of James was alright early on in the game when he still acts very disconnected and disheveled, my main issue with him is that he suddenly becomes talkative, confident and normal when interacting with other people. Compare how he behaves early in the game to when he is speaking to Eddie, for example.

How in the hell is this an example of it being bad? You might as well post someone knifing down a Licker in RE2 as an example of it being bad.

The fact that you know the literally who's name is embarrassing, I'm sorry. Guy Cihi shits all over that motherfucker and it's not remotely close.

I prefer Cihi's performance, I know Robert's name because of these threads.

The most annoying thing to me about nu-James honestly is the fact that it looks like he's wearing a fucking wig.

it's bad on purpose

Yeah ok. I'd believe that if I was a retarded zoomer who didn't play other games from the era. But Japs were simply shit at directing ENG voiceovers back then. RE1 comes to mind. And SH is an ENG only game, no JP VA. Meaning Japs didn't have a local version they'd stick to, they were getting involved in ENG voiceovers and ruining them.

If 2/3R were just survivors in Racoon city I'd be ok with them but that's not what happened and I'm going to judge them as such. Remakes shouldn't be inferior to what they are remaking. The groundwork story and designs are all there already so to fall short of homework you are copying is shameful.

is not bad though
the new game is bad with everyone screaming all the time

nobody can see monsters other than james
they shouldnt be screaming like that

It's bad

wrong

RE1 comes to mind

What about RE2?

2 has the best story but the map is DOGSHIT

What? What kind of contrarianism is this? Soth Vale is great. It's smaller than Old and Central Silent Hill from the first game but it's incredibly detailed, atmospheric, scary as fuck, and filled with visual storytelling and symbolism on every corner. It has a lot more personality. I love going around examining parts of the environment and finding hidden items. It's also the only overworld in the series where I feel tense on every street. Encountering Otherworld monsters always feels like a terrifying experience instead of an annoyance and tedium like in the other games

map != dungeons anon

i like the dungeons of 2
they are quite good in fact
but the OVERWORLD is dogshit

it's bad

When did I ever say that? You must worship me like a fucking God if you're misinterpreting my words like that. I'm a grouchy 55 year old man who was playing on my Sharp X68000 during a Toshiba layover in the summer of 1989 when your parents were in high school so don't ever call me a zoomer. Nothing beats the exact artistic decisions of Team Silent of 2001 and inherently speaking no remake could ever outdo its original because it's an imitation to begin with.

South Vale is part of the overworld anon.

Read Just as SH4 was just another game until late development and they just change it to silent hill, durr, game development is like that sometimes.

i see i misunderstood your point then
but i do disagree with it, i do not like the overworld of 2
its too linear

I would secretly remake 3 alongside 1 then have 3 start once you beat 1 as a surprise.

Just as SH4 was just another game until late development and they just change it to silent hill

Not only is that a myth, that's a widely infamous myth that was debunked over a decade ago and should be common knowledge by now. No idea how you managed to learn that bit of bullshit. games.kikizo.com/features/konami_interview_sep04.asp

I thought it was a little boring exploring outside in 2 since there were no fast enemies. And it didn't feel like there was much to find in general. There's also one part that lets you run down a really long road only to tell you there's nothing there and go back. I dunno why they did that instead of just blocking it off but it felt like the game punished me and made me waste time for exploring.

Still games always have a code game subject to change during development, it doesn't mean shit what was called during it but how they sell it in the end and it was promoted as a remake to better conceal the twist. Hell, it was even better it wasn't a 1:1 remake but characters, places, setting, premise and shit its still the same

wrong reply?

Learn to read? Even if Room4 was a SH game from the beggining, SM still was a SH1 remake regardless of development name and settings changes.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I was talking about SH4 and now you're claiming SH4 was originally an SH1 remake?

You're a literal retard, SM is a SH1, the fuck is wrong with your reading comprehension and replying without reading the quote chain is more retarded, kys

You're right I'm sorry

SM is a SH1 remake*

SH4 confirmed that Silent Hill is a normal tourist town with normal people but it also has an alternative dimension known as the "Otherworld". A dimension that mirrors the real world but instead of people it has monsters in it. The Otherworld can only be entered by people with traumatic experiences related to the town or cultists who use special rituals. When (You) enter the Otherworld the dimension changes its appearance and the appearance of its monsters based on your own personal fears and traumas. When (You) overcome your fears and traumas you exit the Otherworld and return to the normal real world dimension of the town

It's a really creative and great concept desu. The problem is that SH2 was the only game in the series that utilized it correctly IMO. In SH1 you play as Harry but the Otherworld represents Alessa's traumas. In SH3 you play as Heather but the Otherworld represents Cheryl's traumas. In SH4 you play as Henry but the Otherworld represents Walter's traumas. Etc. Etc. SH2 is the only game in the series where the Otherworld represents the personal demons of the protagonist you are actually playing as

Why not both?