PAY VOICE ACTORS

but first, here's our terms

not a mafia btw

FOUR THOUSAND US DOLLARS

lmao do you think voice actors break people's legs and assassinate people or something?

prove they're not

If I saw anyone hand me this shit I'd immediately cut all ties with them. Why would I have to deal with this shit when I could just hire a FIverr VA or some other indie who actually just speaks casually and like a normal human being when it comes to this type of work. We simply just agree on payment and how we do it (either they record in their own or we do a live directed session where I instruct them), then once that's done with, they send the audio and I sent the money. That's it. No other retard legal shit like this.

Do you think that's all a mob does you spastic?

Hard to imagine why people op to use Al voices

THINK OF THE POOR BILLIONAIRES!

Their "skill" is what? Talking? Thank god the computer makes these layabouts obsolete.

Time to use AI

One Billionaire > Social juctice mob
seethe

can't prove a negative
do you think the mob asks for a fair pay rise?

Do you think coming up with negotiation terms is a mob tactic? lol at these temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

Mobs make money by money laundering and protection rackets. Which part of Paimons voice actor looking like a mutant in a camera is money laundering or protection racketeering?

Considering how shit the pay for voice actors is compared to film actors, this looks pretty reasonable.

social justice mob

Where? Also ready for your 14 hour shift?

i only use jp voices so i see no problem with just cutting en voices anyway

They get paid shit because most people just change the audio to Japanese. English voice actors have become redundant in the labor pool

western VAs are more activists than actors.

Why do they demand they be paid thousands of dollars when they're role in the grand scheme of the whole game isn't even that important to begin with?

They also want to make that illegal.

This looks pretty reasonable, I'm sorry am*ricans think that a fair labour contract is literal communism or smth

t. wagie that does literal minimum work in a 39 hours week schedule in a heavily unionized company

inb4 hurr durr enjoy being fired

can't. That's EU law for you. As long as I do my minimum work there's literally nothing they can do to fire me. Been doing that for 6 years already.

I do not care for english voice actors

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Shit like this is why union fags work on more non-union than union projects

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

Addition of Martin Luther King Jr. day and Juneteenth as contractual holidays

They literally can't help themselves, holy shit. The company they work at MUST observe the nigger holy day, the other nigger holy day, the nigger holy month, and pay out to the nigger lottery

The people writing the code, the script and making the art assets should be the voice actors.

I would be fine with this if voice acting was still what it used to be in the Golden Age.
youtube.com/watch?v=gAvzV3xI_nA
But sadly, we will never have such peaks on the path we are now.

american culture, chud.

Let me get hired to voice over females, even though I'm a grown man!!!!

That's my right, xisisters!!!!

Eliminate all trannies

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just start using fucking AI voice acting, fuck these idiots

If they could get away with it, yes.
Bunch of genshin VA's seemingly wanted the scab actors to die.

Who cares about English dubs?

Replace all voice actors with AI trained on their previous work.

They did in my lifetime. I'm not sure if the current crop could do it. In the old days, it was Johnny Rosselli. Frank Nitti. Jimmy Hoffa doing dirty union shit..

PAY. VOICE. ACTORS. WHAT. THEY'RE. WORTH. NOW.
NO, I WILL NOT 'FLIP BURGERS'.
I HAVE AN INVALUABLE SKILL, OKAY?

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PAY. VOICE. ACTORS. WHAT. THEY'RE. WORTH

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They should have to pay to be included in video games

Studios just have to quit using american/canadian "voice actors". Just go to any community theatres in a village in the UK, Ireland, Australia or New Zealand and pay them a few pizzas and they will give you performances a couple of thousand percent better.

Those terms are too high for the quality of 95% of the english VA workforce, they are totally replaced by AI.

It worked for megaman.

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VAs threaten to walk from games

Remember that I play videogames for gameplay and don't care

Sounds completely reasonable.

Do they really deserve a jannie's yearly salary?

Oh it's my daily reminder that burgers hate worker and consumer rights
Bow to your oligarch overlords, slaves

Just return to devs making all the voice acting. If not that, just use AI or don't use voice acting at all. Entitled retards shouldn't be catered to just because they read a script and speak into a microphone.

€0 with Marx's face on

Read Das Kapital, bitch.

you read it niggerkike

What's this Schedule X it mentions for background work it mentions? Google turns up nothing.

while they were scabbing, don't forget that part. also one throwing up while saying they are autistic will never not be funny.

Voice Actors should follow global rule 1 (SAG-AFTRA'S, not Anon Babble's), if they aren't following, they should stop complaining

The Paimon VA still recording while pretending to be part of the protest is the funniest thing about this mess to me.

The overweight mentally-ill White women and fatfaced asians cannot do shit to normal people. That is the only reason why they aren't.

Absolutely nothing of value would be lost if english dubs ceased to exist, it would even improve the average of good english voice acting in vidya since most of the worst examples in the medium would disappear

Major studios making movie games should definitely be paying their voice actors well, since they're going all in to make b-movies but with "gameplay".
I'll keep not buying their products though.
Otherwise, studios focused on making a proper game can hire a couple voice actors to throw out 20 voice lines and call it a wrap.
Think how much worse the Elder Scrolls games get as they voice more and more content.
Zelda games used to be fine without voiced dialogue.
Other than quips and barks, games don't need voice acting unless the focus is on characters talking to eachother. Life is Strange type games.
I like what the other anon said about getting the devs to voice it practical enough to get the game off the ground.

If you need a movie star type character then you can pay for a pro voice actor. Otherwise fuck off and don't voice everything.

Surely if they're trying to push these demands on me, I could come up with my own that clearly stipulate they're not allowed to use the character they voice as mouthpiece for their own political takes and ideologies on social media since that would hurt both the reputation of my company, project and character itself, right?.... No?... Well too bad then, get fucked.

saaaar pls support AI saaaaar the real enemy is the White VA saar

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They never learn

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If these uppity VA faggots ever found out that most old voice acting was done by random fucks in the office they'd shit themselves.

nice try gianni

Why did Gianni delete his Xitter account with nearly 300k followers just to run off to the pedophile website known as TroonSkies just so he can barely have 46k followers?

He just posts the exact same type of gay tranny and degenerate shit on there as he did on Xitter.

he is a little boy groomer, wat do you expect?

I'm glad that the North America VA industry is sort of semi-collapsing because of this entire shit show.

literally one of the least important jobs in the entire industry

this uppity

burgers

white

voice actors are the waiters of the video game industry

waiters are paid better

be like Fromsoft and hire classically trained British theater actors, no one from the California voice actor clique

It's millionaires making demands of billionaires

Name one game that got improved thanks to VA

waiters are actually making shitton don't let them fool you. Those motherfuckers can easily make like 1500-2000 from tips alone on one busy weekend.

and they shouldnt
just like VAs

japanese games will have japanese voice actors

polish games will have polish voice actors

french games will have french voice actors

north american/british games will have AI-generated voice acting

is vidya saved?

actually they should, have you ever dealt with average mouthbreather? (aka customer) Anyone that has to deal with those on daily basis should be paid 6 figures at minimum

They shouldn't. Minium wage no tips.

then no one would work in that industry

Do voice actors ever hold any resentment that they didn't get into film or television instead?

pic related does. he was in some online skit show or something and i saw him posted on Anon Babble once as part of some background character for a film or something but i forgot where that's from, but you can see him trying to be an actual on screen 'actor here: youtube.com/watch?v=urk_kp76RoI
he's absolutely seething over the fact he knows he's relegated to just do gay voices instead of actually playing roles.

good

Anon, we live in a time where WotC sent the Pinkertons to some guy for having Magic the Gathering cards early.

lol

Havent there always been memes about how VAs in japan eat up like 70-90% of an anime game's budget and a lot of em are barebones BECAUSE they usually hire the best moeblobs around? and they keep doing things in that manner because those popular vas genuinely push sales?
While in the west theres always the same 5-6 'anime' vas in shitty games because theres literally no one else in the VA field?
Are there even any notable EN vas that pull in customers to such a degree they themselves bring in more $?

why are voice actors so fucking crazy?

Americans

these people don't have voices worth "stealing" in the first place

corn syrup in they water

mandatory nigger holidays in your anime game

Americans should be shot.

juneteenth contractual holiday

starts kinda reasonable

oh btw contractually acknowledge junteenth and MLK day

hahahaha fucking what?

As days you have off work, like the US federal government does. It's not unreasonable.

FUCK UNIONS! FUCK CORPORATIONS! FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!

The government doesn't have to break your legs to ensure you WILL BUY the car (((Insurance)))
not legal racketeering btw

Pretty sure it just means the nigger holidays count as paid days off, however that works for VA shit where they only record for your company a couple of times a year. But I'm choosing to believe they're trying to force them to add a giant statue of MLK into the game because that's funnier.

kek

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Nothing of value would be lost if games went back to text with no voice acting whatsoever.

This

american think that basic worker rights are that much to ask

And this is why living in the us is fucking hell

the one voicing that is an actual theater trained actor, not a dime a zone indie voice 'actor'

No one outside of Texas gave a shit about Juneteenth before 2016. Now people think it's the date the last of the slaves were released for some reason.

Voice actors don't even deserve human rights, replace them with AI RIGHT NOW!

11% wage increase per year

stopped reading there holy kek

voice acting

Gay and stupid for most games.

written text accompanied with a sound that plays during dialogue scrolling that gives you an idea as to what the character sounds like

PERFECT.

implying trannies like you give two shits about white people

You lost.

God damn Sorlag is hot, I would let her lay an egg on my chest and then murder me.

Can't wait for AI to replace these striking parasites

Aren't there only very few people in the union that can reach the threshold for health insurance?

if english dubs vanished overnight, what sector of society would suffer?

black people

You're already in yours, stop browsing Anon Babble wagie

Addition of Martin Luther King, Jr. day and Juneteenth as contractual holidays

We're just about making sure that those evil billionaires don't fleece the worker! That's you and me, comrade!

Small print: We want to install political commissars who will spread our hate and misery across the workplace and ensure the the industry is even more hostile to those evil customers who care more about high quality fun than whether we feel validated!

And put our pay above the needs of the story!

And protect bad workers who destroy the industry by driving off the customer!

And bring in more of us to solidify our control!

And while we're transforming our industry into a worthless community that serves nobody but ourselves, we'll demand more money!

And anyone who goes against this won't be allowed to work in the industry!

The fact that the union is a headache for the owner doesn't mean that they're good people who are friends to the customer or to the good worker who actually belongs in the industry. The class warfare mindset is the most brainlet pseudo-intellectual bullshit ever.

Fire them all, start over, and be smarter about who you hire this time.

Do you think coming up with negotiation terms is a mob tactic

Yeah, you’re aware that the mob used to have control over a bunch of workers unions right? They negotiated all the time.

This, they know they’re insufferable so they have to create a narrative that if you don’t like them you support corporations.

Why would you not use AI voice at this point?

AI voice is the only ai I support. Fuck localized and fuck their va entitled cunts who think they should be royalty just for saying words

people who can't play games unless they look "realistic"

trannies freak out over it

and? they don't buy games anyway

not worth the pr hassle

AI still can't do vocal inflections very convincingly without a lot of guidance, making even the bottom tier of "voice actor" more capable in most situations.

Just don’t have va then. Better then bottom feeder troons taking your budget

There's no violence so this strong arming and one sided deal is fine!

Lol

AI still can't do vocal inflections very convincingly without a lot of guidance, making even the bottom tier of "voice actor" more capable in most situations.

it's unironically faster to just wrangle an ai until you get what you want than work with "bottom tier" vas, since the result would be roughly equal.
at least ai is available at any second of the day and gives results immediately, compared to most voice actors who take weeks or even months to record like 20 lines of dialogue.

t. worked with vas on a project before

record no more than 20 lines per game, with each not being longer than 5 seconds

Go to twitter and start bitching because u think u deserve a Hollywood actor salary, even though you have no real talent and your entire participation on projects can be done in a single 6 hours shift

Voice "actors" are one of the biggest issues with modern gaming, if hiring unskilled niggers,pajeets,troons and women wasn't already affecting the developments enough now we have this type of drama

Genuinely the whole genshin VA controversy completely disillusioned me on the VA union.
They all legitimately deserve to lose their jobs and NOBODY should go union AT ALL.

youtu.be/o3TzYBRzj2U

Kiosks and online menus are better. So I agree, get rid if them

EUfag here, is the voice acting scene there in USA so fucking shit that the only viable options you guys have are mentally ill trannies?

Voice Actors: here's our terms

Studios:

QFT.

I really hope that this is going to end for them getting paid more BUT they will have no say in what they voice, you know, how it's used to be.

ok now you have to say "I hate jews and niggers"

b-but it's unhetical and

do you want to be fired or what? I already pay you like 5k monthly, do the fucking job or go home.

oh, you don't have to hire american specifically if you don't want to, you can just go for canadians, in which case, you'll get someone like PIC RELATED.

I still don't get this honestly, you're supposed to fucking ACT, but if you have to act something you don't like, you throw hissy fit like a faggot. What if for example they were given the role of the villain but then later complain that the villain starts saying racist or dehumanizing shit and demand the dialogue lines gets softened up..,. like what the fuck did you expect when you accepted the role of a villain??

Redditors

More companies are just going to do business with the UK instead or they'll use AI.

neets discover that corporations aren't their friends and will use any opportunity to save a quick buck

I suppose here where I live VAs cares more about doing their jobs than upholding a political view for fake internet brownie points.

I would just use AI, and offer my employees a monetary bonus to use their voices for training. Hell, extend the offer to their friends and family. Pay for some quality studio time and BOOM. We're in the money and whiny VAs can go to trade school.

I always daydreamed about running a Game Studio that stuck to Indie or AA at most. I could imagine managing employees, hiring artists and programmers, hell, even a dedicated QA department. But whenever I think about the Voice Acting, I always think about how my team could make a great game, but the shmuck that was hired at the 75% development stage suddenly is making all these demands and headackes. Posting on Social Media with bad takes with my company's name in their bio, using the character's voice in live streams and making them agree with weird beliefs, and getting a convention circuit by stealing the key art for a shitty booth banner.

but you cant even form a single sentence about what is bad about this interim agreement relating to its contents

VA

workers

Good one. Now pick up a shovel and get to work.

Only Anon Babbleirgins will pretend protections against AI is a bad idea and you should let machines steal your voice for jewish purposes. Get a job incels

and offer my employees

you will use AI as well, you are not foolinf anyone rajeet

The problem is not the request to be paid more per se, but WHO is advancing those demands.
Like, if you look at their social profiles, you kind of want to side with the AI too.

Why would I have to deal with this shit when I could just hire a FIverr VA or some other indie who actually just speaks casually and like a normal human being when it comes to this type of work

Because then you get shit like this

youtube.com/watch?v=bn36pc87EiU

Random fucks who just happened to have a background in theatre

Truly random fucks give us this

youtube.com/watch?v=c2wpIeZDrHE

You first bootlicker

protections against AI

no matter you do we are fucked, corporations own and train AI on content stolen from people to fire them later, theres no way of reverting this. Next 50 years will be more dystopian than even the most depressing sci fi movies.

I think White and Asians(jeets aren't even on the asian hierarchy lmao) men are who develop the greatest video games. They and their families/friends could be paid to train AI, I don't see the problem with this.

Then we pressure government to ban AI, unless the people in power want AI to be used against them

didn't Nintendo also sic the Pinkertoniggers on someone?

I HEKKIN LOVE BIG GOVERNMENT

I NEED TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO

My lord, you are gay.

whiny VAs can go to trade school

Typical philistine behaviour

Here you go
Unions are one of the many forces destroying western entertainment.

Out of nowhere "we want MLK day off"

Oh fuck off.
AI can't come soon enough.

i will use ai voices to make sure i don't pay for voice acting

I love chaos

I love everyone being allowed to fuck over everyone

Anyway, who are you quoting? Because it's not me
Unions are the backbone of western workforce.

Can someone break down what each of these practically mean? What is a Schedule X, or virtual casting/self tapes?

I won't check, but if I had to guess, a lot of these people were telling others learn to code. Not a ounce of sympathy here. They're simply not important enough to be acting like this, English voice acting was already something to be skipped.

a bunch of parasitical organizations that make our industries less fitted to the needs of the customer are the backbone of western industry

lolno

Alongside the rest of the parasite class, they've been aggressively breaking the backs of our once-great cities since Johnson. And they're only getting worse.

The unironic answer is to just have the people in your studio do the VA work, not hiring dedicated VAs

English voice acting was already something to be skipped

Japanese VA get paid, a high profile VA will take most of the budget. Now stop making shit up you fucking philistine

little kuriboh

Has he done any memorable work since the yugioh abridged series(that still isn't finished)?
Don't care nigga, put the fries in the bag. English VA = Mute

The VA industry is absolute shit in terms of actual payment, benefits and respect from the industry.
All the talent who actually get good roles with good pay are either talents who were established 15-20 years ago or talents who came in from other mediums like broadway or live-action.
Meanwhile, the majority of VAs rn are either e-celebs or dub actors fighting for scraps. This is why they get parasocial as hell every convention season, because it's genuinely the majority of their income from the autographs.
So it's just not an industry for sane people and the people who do it are slowly realizing that they picked a shitty oversaturated career path which is a huge reason why they're doing this now

Japs are retarded too, we already knew that. Paying people to talk is stupid period. Paying people even more for that because they threw a hissy is actively dangerous to society. Paying people throwing a hissy because they got fired for trying to change the narrative of the game and character they were paid to voice is the ultimate cuckoldry. If a va doesn’t like their salary they refuse to sign or they quit simple as

They literally would if they could.

money breaks

what

Billionaires aren’t the ones that are hiring shitty overpriced voice actors.

He's blacklisted by several companies because of YGOTAS and DBZA so no. Biggest claim to fame since is doing the English Audio Description (blind and partially-sighted accessibility) track for the Star Wars sequel trilogy.

The way the SAG-Aftra union and the union VAs torpedoed their entire reason for striking overnight is a thing of beauty to behold.

Keep cementing your status as a philistine, better yet put your own fries in the bag. Grow your own potato while you're at it
I have never heard a case where someone from broadway went into VA.

Paying people to talk is stupid period

What kind of idiotic thinking is that? Is theatre stupid because you're paying people to talk. Shit opera must be the most wasteful thing ever created because you're paying people to talk. Paying people to play instrument must also be very stupid then, why do we allow instruments to exist?

that because they threw a hissy is actively dangerous to society

in what way? Explain your line of thinking here

reminder that sag-aftra affiliated voice actors support public displays of satanism

People who aren’t professional VAs are a lot like jannies.
You gotta ask yourself, what kind of person would unironically want to be a VA or a janny? Massive losers of course.

Better than some schizoid troon trying to sound like a woman like in Dawntrail

The effort actual actors have to put in compared to VAs is miles long.

And?

Grow your own potato while you're at it

Don't need to, I pay for them at the store because I need them and they're useful.

Grow your own fucking potatoes

i dont think its possible, the government is owned by corporations and they are pushing for it. Even if some countries ban it do you really believe it will be world wide? Once AI is good enough to replace persons job, everyone not using it will be in huge disadvantage.

illiterate/ironic weebs

you replied to me but the post you directed me to had nothing to do with the interim agreement but rather a mental illness spouting from that poster that was full of fantasy and had no root in reality.
Try again to form arguments against the contents of the interim agreement

Name a more useless profession than voice actor. You cannot.

being a NEET

No retard in theater you have to act. In opera you have to act and sing. In both you have to look the part. It’s completely different and you are a nigger for trying to make it comparative

There are many many legit things you can absolutely fault US voice actors for.
This is bitch-eating-crackers tier, anon.

World wide bans are possible

they are pushing for it.

Then we have to use it against them, deepfake of politicians and CEO being caught in situations they shouldn't. "leaked audio" where they expose all their secrets etc

Absolutely. Voice actors are well aware of their place on the pop culture/celebrity totem poll. A lot of them do the anime/comic convention circuit. They know how much they can charge for an autograph and they know how much Peter Capaldi can charge for his when he shows up as the marquee guest. Imagine how much that eats at them, like imagine Troy Baker, a lot of people know Joel, a lot of people know Nathan Drake. A lot of casual fans will have no idea who Troy Baker is by his name alone. I'm pretty sure that's part of the reason for the voice actor strike that happened a few years back. They all knew they were D list celebrities, and they wanted to make more money and be seen as B listers at the very least.

Nope, gotta keep those useful farmers employed. Love my Idaho brothers.

voice acting was the best when it was just a random guy that had other skills that worked on the game.
now all these bitches are trying to be "pros" and desperately doing anything they can to be one, including joining a cult of a union hoping that it will help them succeed.

AYOOO DIS is bitch-eating-crackers N SHIEEEEE

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If your 'witty' remark requires people to assume you're illiterate for it to make sense, you're not being as witty as you think.

A lot of them are probably scared shitless at the idea of celebrities replacing them if Arcane and Castlevania are of any indicator.

That’s literally lacking a profession try again

As if a corpo can magically make more people like them.

you can be a NEET and work from home making youtube videos or whatever that you get paid for without it being considered 'real work'

The word NEET has lost all meaning

I like how the ones with 0 hard skills are making the biggest demand

Then you’re not a neet. If you are earning an income you aren’t a neet by definition. Neet doesn’t mean self employed

Years of trying to make vidya voice acting a big money profession and still no games with more memorable VA than morrowind and deus ex.

Forspoken was pretty memorable...

Ok but satan isn't real and they are just doing it to upset people.

He's blacklisted by several companies because of YGOTAS and DBZA

???

Anon Babble

Problem is some of the union actors striking are still refusing to work with companies that already implemented A.I protections and want them to flip union and screw over all the other non-union workers. They're scum pretending its solely about A.I.

He should be blacklisted for that secondarycore slop. Everyone involved should be.

There's always been a general issue of vocie actor VS actor when it comes to companies going for box office pull. Look at fucking Disney, an insane lineup of memorable performances by minor and major actors/VAs alike, followed by dreadful performances in their live-action remakes. Some people just aren't that good on screen or aren't sought out, as opposed to their voices. If you want a really simple example, just look up Tony Jay's vocal performances and compare them to his live-action performances

JP VA's

some of them double as singer since their pay is shit

USA VA's

Their other job is to shitpost on bluesky FOR FREE

I don't get it
the voice acting in both series is relatively good, especially kuribohs

Working directly disqualifies you from using the NEET badge.

Japanese studios utterly despised the Abridged Series stuff back in the day and would copy strike it at any possible opportunity. The only reason a few of the TFS people made it into the industry was that the English dub cast liked them personally and even then they're all mostly relegated to side characters.
The youtube-to-professional pipeline is basically 10% talent and 90% networking.

Ok but

Not Ok actually.

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It's not just singing. Only the ones who are actually good at singing can make a career out of that. There's also a bunch of other shit. Podcasts, live events, promotional stuff. And that's only the more successful or up-and-coming VAs. The less successful ones have to take on second jobs.

And nobody wants to deal with them.

Thing is, both Japanese and Korean celebrities are micromanaged to hell and back.
Golden rule is never become an idol or you're fucked.

anyone who likes genuinely good english voice acting doesn’t use dubs

Well I mean it does kinda make sense. Back in the day, if you wanted to make a parody dub of a Japanese show, you had to, you know, pay the licensing fees. Abridged series basically just profit off the original show for free.

Like you might think "But they don't make money off the abridged series!" But most of the successful ones have merchandising lines built directly off that show's popularity. I remember Team 4-Star had a "Ghost Nappa" t-shirt and in order to make it distinct from the IP, they just removed his Saiyan armor. These guys somehow managed to make it publicly acceptable to profit off of someone else's work and get away with it. So obviously the original IP holders were gonna be upset. They kinda just gave up because fans were more on the Youtubers' side and it wasn't worth it anymore.

Sounds reasonable to me.

some as actors or doing radio/podcasts

if Satan isn't real then why do so many people become rabid schizophrenics again God whenever He is brought up in any context?

These guys somehow managed to make it publicly acceptable to profit off of someone else's work and get away with it.

To be fair, that's basically Comiket in a nutshell

It's not about the acting. It's about the content and the principle. They allowed millions of the most unfunny motherfuckers in the world that do nothing but quote the videos to enter fanbases without even understanding the source material. Hearing that he's industry blacklisted is justice ever single time I have to deal with a retard who can't take a series seriously because all they know about it is the fucking abridged version.

And also the acting is shit most of them are just bad impressions of real actors' iconic performances.

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Just hire amateurs. Players will barely tell the difference.

here are the terms we demand, or we will stop working!

item x: you have to let us keep working!

This is some next-level Zen shit right here.

The critical difference is that Comiket doesn't use original footage from the IP.

Aside from america being the land of free, why did SAG-AFTRA even let their talents(lel) run their hands spewing retarded shit that would ruin their reputation?
The whole controversy just destroys them all.

I love voice acting in games and I'd prefer if they remained humans. That said I also wouldn't mind if most or the entire US VA 'community' went out the door for a new batch, and the general web of nepotism and seniority leading to every other game having the same voices just reaffirms me in that.

Juneteenth

lololololololololol AI go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR all unions are communism all communists must be rounded up and killed down to the last infant smashed on a rock

The Bayonetta VA and Genshin debacle should really be a lesson for them to stfu and take what they have. So embarrassing.

Yeah that's completely fair

I don't necessarily disagree with you, anon
TFS were basically the exception because the dub team wanted to show that they were chill with the parody and basically brought them on to establish nerd cred, ironically Toei got pissed when they found out about this and the most prolific members of TFS (Masako, Antfish, etc) are blacklisted to this day

reminder that fags ITT defending voice actors (especially dubbers) unironically think this is peak acting
youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEY
voice acting is not a real industry it is a web of nepotism and gatekeeping and connections and has nothing to do with your actual ability to perform

Holy shit Anon Babble is back?!?!?!1 :O

This is the one time I support big corpos using AI to fuck over these fucks.

Reminder that Gianni voiced a Male Pregnancy to Birth fetish situation for an underaged child on Roblox that requested him to do so, LIVE ON TWITCH.

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SAG-AFTRA directly contributed to it. It was literally because of their own responses that fans found out about the draconian terms in the OP. They're just that out of touch and dumb.

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Here's my counter offer

I just really like Legacy of Kain, man

Remember how voice actors were all about the being the same race as the character they were playing?

I find it hilarious they thought their trump card was appealing to fans and then got immensely butthurt and started crying 20x fold when everyone shat on them for their selfishness

This or Fran is exposing the shit the guild does after a long keikaku to become president.

Every screencap is literally social media champagne activism and crying they couldn't make it in Hollywood
lmao how much longer isn't t going to take

If you sign ANYTHING with SAG-AFTRA that will literally force you under legal threat that you just sign and agreed on to lay off your ENTIRE VA staff and replace them all with VAs from their union or they take you to court and rape you because what you sign on is basically you agreeing that you'll do just that.

That's the exact situation that happened with Hazbin Hotel and why they had to replace their entire cast of Voice Actors for Union ones.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to work with these retards unless you want to fuck other people over and you have to shred of loyalty yourself towards the people you were going to have with you along the way voice some characters for a long lasting project like that.

You're thinking of a Cartel not a mob you moolinyan

It did work for the VAs though. For over half a years, most Genshin dubfags were annoyed but accepted the state of things and supported the VAs. Onyl reasom it came crashing down was because some VAs sperged out.

SAG-AFTRA is trying to save face after the results of the 2023 strike turned out to be dog shit. One of the most notably pathetic things about the deal reached after that particular strike was that voice actors were basically thrown under the bus.

That'd be more believable without the million $ paycheck

The current VA industry pushed out people who would have made more Legacy of Kains. It's all nepobabies and political activism now.

That's the exact situation that happened with Hazbin Hotel and why they had to replace their entire cast of Voice Actors for Union ones.

That's not what happened. Vivvzie literally just wanted broadway actors and replaced her cast by choice

While I don't entirely oppose unions for skilled labor in which a poorly-done job can seriously hurt people/property or the reputation of the industry (for instance, electricians), I don't see any sense whatsoever to creative unions.
voice actor unions, writers unions, etc. those just seem like a way to give more power to people more deeply-embedded in the organization itself and weaken potential outside talent.
ANYBODY could make a good voice actor. ANYBODY could make a good writer.
unions for creative roles are just everything bad about unions as a concept and nothing good.

LMAO. They will all be replaced with AI and I don't even care.

Does anyone have those images of a dev getting shit on for not wanting to pay 200$ for a VA to read like 2 or 3 sentences for their game.

The fuck is a juneteenth?