Use ai for art

use ai for art

>everyone recognizes it and blacklists you and you become a pariah
>use ai for coding
>nobody notices, nobody cares

Explain this, game de/v/s.

I can see your shitty AI art, I can't see your code.

>use ai for art

>everyone recognizes it and blacklists you and you become a pariah

What world do you live in where this is the case?

Normalfaggots fucking worship AI and start soifacing anytime they see some new slop.

Just look at Reddit ever since that new ChatGPT model dropped, there's AI slop upvoted to the top of every sub (except the few who banned it).

When you use AI you get indian quality. Nobody is okay with Indian quality art, hence the gta remasters bombing, but people settled for Indian coding a long time ago.

Coding is easy and as someone who works in the industry, it's whatever works while still being efficient.
Art is much harder than coding and often lends an identity to your game, and is easily identifiable.
I don't see what's so hard to notice about this

use AI for art

its shit quality

the standard for art is extremely high

massive fail

use AI for code

it's mediocre quality

the standard for code is slightly above mediocre

minor fail, can be remedied

because all coders just steal code in the first place. theres like .000001% of actual programmers that ACTUALLY know how to program shit. you could make this argument for art as well, but its much more difficult to fake good art than fake programming

Art is much more visible to everyone, ya dingus.
Let's be fair to AI "art" here; it's not like digital artists and game artists (2D or 3D) haven't used time saving features when making their "art" for a long time now. Games look so soulless now because artists rely way too much on them, and even then AI "art" is super noticeable and a step too far. Even your common troglodyte notices that shit.

Fpbp unironically.
If normies can’t see it, it doesn’t exist. Much like a newborn.
The inner workings of any machine or software may as well be magic to normies.

coding is just logic
art requires a soul

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relax bro it doesnt matter if the engineering is subpar lol

you should work for boeing

Programming is the current year equivalent of sweeping shit out of a horse's stables.

Ngl it's fucking hilarious seeing codemonkeys and Anon Babbletards crying that they're losing their jobs to AI when they were the first ones to start gloating about how "AI will replace artists!" back in 2022.

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the only people who care about ai art is art fags
everyone else either isn't bothered or outright doesn't notice the difference

People WILL notice shitty coding if they see bad performance, bugs, memory leaks, crashes ETC. And will not be pleased if you admit you used AI and don't even know shit about coding so you did not recognize it as garbage nor have a good idea on how to fix it.

just don't tell people that its AI!!!

So you'd rather tell people you're just dogshit and clueless?

AI will fix its own bugs!!!

Don't even think about saying this unironically.

why do you keep using normalfag terms like 'normie'?

art

coding

Done

People WILL notice shitty coding if they see bad performance, bugs, memory leaks, crashes ETC.

I predict that this is ironically going to start happening a lot more the more advanced AI gets.

Right now it's at a stage where it can generate you some shitty code for something basic, but you still have to clean it up yourself. You can't just generate a whole app or game with it.

But when it gets to the stage where it can do that, it's gonna be mayhem. Games will be launching with bugs the devs have zero idea how to fix because they never even looked at the code. Not to mention there'll be 1 million shovelware games uploaded to Steam per day by random retards who just went to ChatGPT and told it "make me a game like X or Y".

People WILL notice shitty coding if they see bad performance, bugs, memory leaks, crashes ETC.

Who cares? I already got their money from the initial early access launch. And my next game I'll just make under a different dev name so they'll fall for it all over again.

Which will just end up killing the indie gaming industry as people will stop trusting any game unless it is published by a name they already recognize.

Good job.

Don't care, got mine.

Programmers are generally open to sharing code. Almost all code is built on the work of other coders. This is why open source is so prevalent among programming. Few programmers feel overly possessive about their own code and are generally happy when their code is shared and reused. AI embodies all of these ideals which is why programmers have embraced AI.

Artist are the complete opposite. Artist are very possessive about their work. They are very hostile to the idea of sharing or reusing their work unless they are getting paid royalties for each time it's used. Reusing someone else's artwork and building on top of it is heavily looked down upon and is considered plagiarism, even when one has permission to do so. AI stands against everything artists believe in.

Because programming is just boring office work. Art is a craft, of course people care about it more.

There might be some small, tiny minority of eccentrics who think programming some shitty app is an "artform", but they're few and far between. For 99.9% of programmers it's just paying the bills.

use ai for coding

nobody notices, nobody cares

Retard.
Read about real world coding AI usage and weep.
Best coding AIs get compared to shitty interns with close to no experience, needing constant supervision and real coders to fix their permanently broken output.

b-b-but there's a video of AI making a flappy bird game

Anything that can't be 'reimagined' (read copied) from Stack Overflow and similar sources will be hot garbage.

nooo you gotta sift through the google swamp of shitty old website and pain stakingly trial and error for hours instead of just asking chagpt in 5 minutes

Using AI for coding is just copying from stackoverflow with less steps + RNG chance to hallucinate something that doesn't work.

Or you could just learn how to do things yourself rather than relying on the internet and chatbots to give you the exact answer every time.

NGL I use Chatgpt as a glorified Google all the time. SEO was a mistake.

expecting literal bots to use critical thinking when their brains have already rotted

did the ludites find a response to the sonic child drawing yet?

You can learn through chatgpt

noooo you gotta look at a smelly indians youtube on how to do it like I did

no thanks

/thread

In 10 years time you won't be able to wipe your ass without the assistance of AI.

Coding isn't art

NGL I use Chatgpt as a glorified Google all the time.

Not a good idea considering it responds with actual nonsense half the time.
If you don't have a decent knowledge about the topic you're asking it about, it will just confidently feed you lies and you won't be able to tell the difference unless you verify it with additional sources. At that point, you might as well have just googled it.

It's the same thing. In fact, normie was the original phrase. Why bother being pendantic?

It's the same rhetoric you heard when the internet came. People back then never stopped whining about how kids no longer have to read and buy books since they could just look everything up on the internet. Encyclopedia books practically died in 2-3 years.

AI is here to stay. AI will be used. Get used to it or get left behind. What matters in the end is results.

Programming is copy and pasting as a tradition. Impossible to distinguish one spaghetti code from the other so why waste time?

Using ai is perfectly fine when doing the bitch work that nobody wants to do. Using ai for something that you are too incompetent to do yourself or too jewish to pay someone else to do it for you is not fine.

It's the same rhetoric you heard when the internet came. People back then never stopped whining about how kids no longer have to read and buy books since they could just look everything up on the internet.

But that's true though? Especially since retarded parents started "raising" their children by just sticking iPads in front of them.

Why do you think zoomers and gen alphas are so stupid and anti-intellectual?

The next generation raised with AI might end up actually illiterate. "Why are you writing words yourself grandpa? That's what ChatGPT is for!"

A lot of games have terrible coding. does it matter to the end user that undertale is coded like shit? no

yeah yeah and gen x retards said

millennials kids will be stupid with these new PC's in the house

and boomers said

gen x kids will be stupid with these new TV's in the house

and the silent generation said

these boomers will be stupid with the new radio in the house

and so on

there are many cases of AI tools like cursor putting API keys in the HTML source of websites and similar security vulnerabilities
no one cares if games use dogshit code because there's nothing to exploit

ctrl+f "artists are"

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all of you got it wrong

Artists are BASED and deserve my commissions

And they were literally all correct.

Just because you were uncomfortable with those facts, doesn't make them wrong.

Straight off the cliff in 2012. The Mayans never miss.

Man am I glad I jumped ship to the farms, no retards simping for marxoid artists that hate you there

code monkeys don't have souls. it is known.

yes it's definitely the vidya games and not the literal poison in our food and water

My whole world came crashing down when I realized digital artists use special brushes for hair, fur, scales, grass, foliage, clouds, starry skies and the like

Isnt that more a thing for "professional" artists, aka those actually having deadlines?

so why are you here then?

Coders know everyone steals, artists pretend they don't.

look at Reddit

No. No, thank you. I don't think I will. Not even when 4ch was down.

Why do you care?

This. If you can't or won't monetize your stuff properly, someone will do it for you and will deserve it more, too.

I'm more talking about photobashing and content aware fill, or 3D artists using base models for everything so all characters are made from the same 3 or even less base models. Then there tech artists that just abuse the same fucking features in UE or whichever engine that homogenizes the visuals even further.
Look I get it they're under tight deadlines and there's barely any passion left in people that work in big triple A teams making sloppa, so why not use shortcuts to get things done, right?